WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: A Conversation with Buck Sexton 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.520 Hello, and welcome to the Carol Markowitz Show on the 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.760 Clay and Buck podcast network on iHeartRadio. One of the 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.319 things we're going to be talking about a lot on 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.920 this show is how we're lied to about marriage and 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.640 kids and generally about family life. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.880 There was a viral video on TikTok recently. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.119 Now I'm not on TikTok, I'm on Instagram like a 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.599 grown up, and so I see the tiktoks as reels 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:27.920 three weeks later. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.240 But I saw this one and it really stuck with me. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.120 In it, the girl is accepting an engagement ring, and 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:40.240 as she pushes her finger through the ring, it flashes 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.080 to her. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.720 Life becoming one of drudgery. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.479 She's doing laundry, she's washing floors, she's rocking a baby, 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.000 and when she takes her finger out of the ring, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.199 it's back to her regular life. The ring is what 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.440 locks her into this terrible, difficult life. So the conversation 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.640 around this clip is that some people believe it's anti 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.640 marriage propaganda from China, and maybe it is. I should 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.240 ask my EXCIA friend Buck Sexton what he thinks. But 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.240 I have a few thoughts overall on this clip. So, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.240 first of all, does this woman not do laundry or 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:16.600 clean her house currently. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.000 I remember single life. It was a lot of doing. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:24.720 Laundry alone and making my bed alone and cleaning up alone. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.160 Now I do the majority of the housework, but I 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.320 also work at my job a lot fewer hours than 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.480 my husband does at his, and I absolutely have help 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.440 from him, like, Babe, can you put the clothes in 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.000 the dryer? Babe? Can you unload the dishwasher? Yes, we 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.000 call each other babe. But two, it's interesting that people 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.919 think this is propaganda from China. Now, why would China 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.840 want to discourage Americans from getting married. Aren't they afraid 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.880 of independent girl bosses and fifty year old men who 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.400 act like they're twenty in the club. It's believable that 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.120 a video like this would come from an adversary because 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.720 deep down, no matter how many videos Chelsea Handler puts 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.120 out on how much she loves sleeping alone, we know 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:13.320 that marriage is. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:14.200 A worthy goal. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.000 Couples who are married are more successful, they make and 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.799 save more money, they live healthier lifestyles. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.239 There's just an array. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.160 Of benefits to getting married that are not debatable, and 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.399 that maybe China doesn't want our people to have there's 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.160 also just, you know, being around someone you love and 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.680 who loves you and wants to make you happy. It's 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.560 all very nice. I can tell you that I bought 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.120 into this lie in my twenties, before I started dating 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.280 my husband. I never wanted to get married. I used 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.399 to wake up in cold sweats having had a nightmare 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.600 that I had gotten accidentally married. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.160 Somehow. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.800 I was immature, and yes I was dating the wrong people, 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.960 but I also believed that marriage was the end of life. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.120 Kids were so boring. I did not want to be boring. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.160 I wanted to have an exciting life. You know, there's 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.160 that line in the old movie when Harry met Sally 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.680 when she says that they always talked about how they 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.400 could fly off to Paris on a moment's notice, but 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:18.800 they never actually did. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:20.120 That was me. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.960 I wanted to be free and available to fly to 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.080 Paris on a moment's notice and. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.000 Listen, while I had a good time. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.560 In my single days, stuff like that really didn't happen. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.000 I'm much more likely to take a trip to Paris today, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.720 and it might not be at a moment's notice because 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.560 the kids have a lot of sports. The lie is 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.840 that marriage and family are the end, but it is 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.160 a lie. Stability and family life opens doors to happiness 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.040 that were not open before. Doors you might not even 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:58.120 know exist. You're going to be doing laundry and washing 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.119 your floors with or without your spe may as well 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.840 have somebody with you through the drudgery and the trips 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.000 to Paris. The other lie is that you have to 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.960 pursue your career before settling down, and this lie is 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:16.440 often specifically sold to men. This is absolutely backwards. When 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.520 you have a comfortable home, when somebody loves you and 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.360 takes care of you, it's a lot easier to do 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:27.279 your job and pursue opportunities. Married men make more money 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.360 than single men, and this is a fact. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.320 It also just makes a lot of sense. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.000 The guy's wipe being on Tinder every night just isn't 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.440 going to have the same focus as the man who 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.119 has a family to support. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.320 But it's true for women too. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.080 A pupil in twenty twenty one found that coupled women 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.919 were making more money than single women for the first 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:53.000 time ever. They were out earning their single counterparts by 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.440 quite a bit. And I say this all the time, 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.680 but I've never actually met a woman who didn't get 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.360 married because she was too focused on her career. I 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.360 know that that trope exists. I have heard it many 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.800 times of the busy career woman who just forgot to 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.680 get married, but I literally don't know her, and I 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.400 have met quite a few people along the way, because 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.440 let's be real, meeting the right person is often also 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.000 the luck of the draw. You have to be open 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.919 to it, yes, but there's some luck involved. As I 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.640 said earlier, I didn't want to get married when I 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.480 was in my twenties because I was deathly afraid of 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.000 having to spend my life with the wrong person. I 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.680 know that it was luck and timing that led to 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.279 my husband and me getting together, but it was also 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.279 discarding the bad ideas that had taken hold in my 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.920 mind about what marriage is or is not. If you're 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.120 a single person, whether a man or a woman, and 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.600 you're listening to this and you're thinking, I get it. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.840 I know marriage is the best, but I haven't met 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:04.080 my person. Know that I understand. I totally get it. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.440 I see you. I'm rooting for you. I know it's 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.160 not easy, and I hate that you get criticized for 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.560 being unmarried. I hope that the advice that I will 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.599 offer in later episodes will help you in your search, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.039 and I hope that you do find your person because 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.279 it is something great and I want you to be 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.200 a part of it. My final comment is that it's 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.040 very hard for people to see their lives in the future, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.880 and this is partially why they're susceptible to the lie 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.560 that marriage is the end of the fun life. The 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.480 guys hanging out with their friends on a Sunday watching 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.719 football and playing video games, or the girls brunching post 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.719 college and the big city. They can't imagine a time 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.680 when one by one their friends will pair off and 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.360 that is what will happen. They imagine that these fun 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.159 times will last forever. So while I do think again 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.240 that luck is involved in meeting the right person, there's 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.440 also the people who discount the right person because it 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.640 might not be the right time and they can't picture 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:10.880 their lives beyond the current moment. I think that's where 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.880 the current push to marry young comes from. It's about 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.120 encouraging people in their twenties to try to picture their 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.720 lives in five to ten years. You're not going to 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.200 be on the bean bag at Jimmy's house playing Madden 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.760 eras do come to a close, and that's not a 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.920 bad thing, but I think it needs to be clarified 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.120 that sure, marry young if you've met the right person, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.880 don't marry young just to marry young. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:39.800 We'll get more. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.200 Into all of these ideas in future episodes, and I 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.240 do hope you listen along. If you'd like for me 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.440 to answer your questions or offer my advice, the email 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.240 is Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com, and I'd. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.160 Love to hear from you. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.920 My guest today is my friend Buck Sexton, co host 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.239 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.120 Hi, Buck, Hey, Carol, how are you good? 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.200 Did you petition to make it the Buck Sexton and 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.360 Clay Travis Show or no? 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:08.440 No. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.560 I always liked to be the guy that everyone can 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.320 count on to just carry my side. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.240 The thing, I don't make any petitions, So I. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.280 Wanted to ask you a little bit about yourself. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.120 You know, I feel like I know you quite well, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.040 but I didn't know the answer to some of these. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.080 So did you always want to be in radio? 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.600 Definitely, definitely not. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:37.720 I was somebody who was a CIA officer because I had, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.120 you know, nine to eleven happened, and I just was 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.440 one of those people who thought I was in college 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.880 and I thought, how can I help? 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.800 And so senior year, I mean it happened. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.800 When I was a sophomore, I was studying Midia's politics 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.400 and things like that, and then senior year, the first 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.400 job I applied for was with the CIA. Everyone else 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.240 was like, I want to go to Goldman Sachs. I'm 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:00.160 want to go to a kids. 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:01.920 And they're like, what do you want to do? Buck? 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.160 And it was a little weird because I didn't really 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.640 I didn't tell anybody because I wasn't really sure if 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.880 I was going to try to IA material right part 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.319 of the CIA I was going to do. So I 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.160 just sort of, you know, did my thing and then 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.720 figured I'd go through some on campus recruiting just for 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:16.400 the for the. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.599 Experience, which was also pretty funny. And I got the 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:20.320 CIA job. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.120 So I did that for years, and then I did 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.920 NYPD and Tellen's Division, and then long story short, Glenn 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.400 Beck found me, like just found word of me and 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.760 hired me and convinced me not to go to business school. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.120 That's that's about ten years of my life condensed. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:38.320 Thanks Glenn Beck. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.960 Actually, my very first time on TV was on Blaze 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:42.720 TV with you. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.719 So, you know, long long road to get here. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.480 Were we nice to you? There was a lot nice. No, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.640 you guys were super nice. Yeah, it was you, It 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.880 was Will Kine, it was se Cup. You guys were 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:54.800 all super nice. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:55.640 Good. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.720 So you have the best, the biggest radio show in 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.079 the country, and you know the let's say, you know, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.240 I think, so, yeah, do you feel like you've made it? 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:07.640 No? 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.480 No, I mean I think that every day I have 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.959 to do a better show. I think that every day 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.320 after a show, I think about what I could have 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:16.280 done differently. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.800 I think that in our business you have to. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.880 You can really go astray and start to drive yourself 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.640 a little crazy unless you really focus on the work. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:32.439 And you know, there's a lot of noise and you know, 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.120 a lot of things going wrong in the background of 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.520 media all the time. But ultimately, I just try to 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.760 serve Russia's audience every day because I still it's you know, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.880 an audience that rush built over thirty thirty plus years. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.360 So no, I mean, I'm writing a book right now 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.839 which is has gone from being exciting and fun to 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.080 a little bit overwhelming too. Now it is like I 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.080 feel like I am because I'm I don't know, thirty 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.080 thousand words into it maybe so you know, get and 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.760 it feels like I'm breaking like rocks with my bare fists. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.199 Every day. I'm just like, make this stop, make this stop. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:07.760 So yeah, no, I don't. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.520 I wouldn't say that. I feel like I've made it. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:10.880 I feel like I've got more I've got to do 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:11.760 every day. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.600 So as somebody who just wrote a book for the 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.760 first time in the last year, I have to tell 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.080 you it only gets worse. You're like in maybe the 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.439 honeymoon period if you're still writing, editing. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.120 Is really well. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:26.440 I mean, I'll just tell you this. You know, this 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.000 is something that things get bad. I don't know how much. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.800 People really know about this, but very I should say 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.439 very few, but most people in the news commentary space 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.360 don't actually write their own books. And when you meet 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.160 with publishers, if you have a platform that can sell 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.280 the book, they're very and this is just a true 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:46.400 across the board publishers. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.920 They'll be like, hey, I mean, do you really want 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.560 to write it yourself? You really? 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.760 Are you sure about that? Because like we can get 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.080 someone that sort of comes in and you guide, and 0:11:55.200 --> 0:12:00.200 you know, yeah, And I mean I always insist said 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.280 that I would do the book writing myself, And now 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.040 I see why a lot of people are just like, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.120 I'm going to pay somebody else to do that for me. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.800 Well, just to give you an idea of our different 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.880 levels of fame. You get asked whether you want to 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.760 write your own book. I get asked to write other 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.800 people's books. So, but I've never done it. I you know, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.920 I just not not that there's anything wrong with that, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.120 but I just, you know, never took anybody up on 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:24.680 that offer. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.640 So what's it like to lead a public life? 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:28.760 Like? 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.800 Do you get recognized a lot? Do you like it? 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:37.280 It's funny? I don't really, I don't. I don't feel 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.679 like a public person at all. I don't really. I 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.760 don't ever think of myself that way. So it does. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.920 And unless you're in the conservative media space, I mean, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.920 some people, you know, I've done Bill Maher a couple 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:49.400 of times. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.959 I mean, there's some stuff I've done that's a lot. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.680 I used to work at CNN, so there are people 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.200 who are not just conservative who would somewhat recognize my face. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.920 And I am told by people that apparently I do 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.680 not age and I do not change. So there is 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.600 that I look the same many many years now into this. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:07.760 Although I don't have a beard anywhere. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.080 I don't know Carol, do you Carol knows my wife 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:10.920 Carrie very well? 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.040 What do you? What do you think of no beard? 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:13.360 Are you? 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.440 I mean, team Carrie? What does she want? 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.240 Team Carrie says no beard? 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.400 So then no beard. It's easy answer. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.200 So yeah, so that she got Obviously she got her wish. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.319 But it's kind of funny because people in the audience 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.040 will like weigh in very heavily one with the other 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:27.880 on this, and I'm. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.280 Like, whatever you do, look super young, thank you. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.760 I mean, you know, whatever the wife wants is what 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.320 I'm going to do. I'm I mean, I'm in my 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.720 forties now, this is like it's real. I'm gonna I mean, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.480 I'm an adult human person, which is crazy. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.520 So anyway, where was I to switch to? 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.360 You know, a related topic? You got married and the week. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.160 Did I wait? Did I answer? You asked me a question? 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:55.760 What was the question? 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.839 I feel like, like leading a public life, I think, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.679 oh I did? I was I also going to say, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.400 You're like, oh, I don't get recognized that much. But 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.040 I have been sent drinks for free because I was 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.480 sitting next to you, So you know, well that makes 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:07.960 me happy. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.880 That's like a really good thing. That's a really good 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:10.280 thing to hear. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.600 I would say this people when they know you from radio, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.280 because they spend so much time with you, because radio 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.800 is a long form and it's a daily thing, and 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.320 you really build a relationship with the audience. People who 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.600 know me from radio and they reckon sometimes actually recognize 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.240 me by my voice instead of my face. Like this 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.280 is happening with like uber drivers and different cities I'll visit, 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.320 they'll kind of like look back and then you know, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.080 they'll say, wait a second. But people that know you 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.800 from radio want to hug you, and just like they'll 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.600 ask me, like how Carrie's doing, you know what I mean. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.760 They're just like they'll jump right into it. There's no TV. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.800 You do Fox. I've done Fox. I used to do CNN. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.120 It's a little more like I think I saw you 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.600 when I was on the treadmill recently. You don't even 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.800 it's a different kind of a recognition. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.320 Right, yeah, all right, so are you guys getting married? Radio? 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.560 I think people really feel like they get to know you, so, yeah, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.000 you got married in the last year and that, you know, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.240 that's a bit on the later side. I would say, right, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.120 you just told us your age. I got married at 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.360 thirty one. Also, you know, I think a little on 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.400 the later side, especially as the conversation right now on 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.960 the right is you should get married young, you should 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:20.720 get married younger. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.480 What do you think about that? 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.560 I mean, thirty one for New York. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.479 City, that's like, no, I know, I thought I was babies. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.600 Having babies, but totally standard. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.320 I mean, that's like, I mean, I don't know any 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.360 I don't think I had any like you know peers 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.520 from you know, growing up in New York that in 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.280 their late twenties early thirties, like that was when it 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:40.920 started to happen. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.080 I didn't know anybody who was married by like twenty five. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.960 For example, at the CIA, I did way more common 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.200 the CIA for people to get married really young. But 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.120 you know a lot of them are from other parts 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.360 of the country. Right, what would I say about getting married? 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.440 I mean, I would say, man, i feel like I'm 0:15:59.440 --> 0:15:59.880 too early. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:00.520 That problem. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.520 There are so many things where I feel like I've 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.560 experienced enough and know enough where I have a lot 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.120 of worthwhile things to say. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:08.200 On being married. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:09.680 I mean it's been less than a year, so I'm 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.400 still learning very much. I do think here's what I 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:21.040 what I can definitely say. People that mortgage their their 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.200 lives as a possible you know, family, you know, people 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.040 that give up that for a job, are overwhelmingly not 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.000 happy with that when when all said and done. I 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.040 think it's true of men and women. A little bit 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.720 harder for women because of the realities of of you know, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.280 the biological clock that they have to work with. So 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.040 I do think that people should If I hadn't made 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.840 a career, made a massive career change switch cities, if 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.520 I had been a little bit more in one place 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.880 and a little more settled in who I you know, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.320 what I was trying to do, I would have I 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.520 would have wanted to get married younger. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.640 To be honest with you, you. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.640 Know, if I could have met Carrie, that's it's ten 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.760 years ago, I would have been happy to have done that. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.800 But the other side of it is, I'm I'm a 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.560 person who thinks that, you know, it should be one 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.400 and done. I mean, I know life is not perfect 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.119 and whatever, and so I would have mind my thinking 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.920 on it was I'd rather wait until I can get 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.240 it right than sort of just give it a shot 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.520 and maybe, you know, take two or three shots at 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:20.520 this over my lifetime. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.760 So absolutely, did you see that story you know about 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:24.960 Representative Boubert. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.080 You know, she gets handsy in the movie theater. Obviously 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:28.719 we all saw that. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.080 But there was a piece in Salon by Amanda Marquotte 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:36.159 saying that the reason she's blaming her shenanigans the Bobert 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.479 shenanigans on the fact that she got married young, and 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.520 that this is the way that she's acting out because 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:42.080 she didn't get. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.800 A chance to do this when she was young. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.120 And of course, you know, Marquote is the one who 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.840 wrote that piece about the tyranny of the home cooked meal. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.760 So obviously take anything she says with a large grain 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.960 of salt. But is there anything to that where getting 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:59.119 married young would have kept you know, Bobert's hands or 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.080 not getting married young she would have been behaving differently 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:02.639 in that theater. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.639 No, I mean, I don't, I don't really see that. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.959 I look, I will tell you, I'm it's funny cause 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.000 I'm talking to Carol like she's my interviewer, like Carol 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.760 and I are friends and hang out in real life, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.160 so this is a little bit. It's a little funny 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.320 because she's like, so tell me Buck of the things 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.120 of which you think on these things. I'm like, yeah, 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.800 like didn't we didn't I text you like five minutes 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:31.120 ago about this offline anyway, I would say, uh, I'm 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:36.439 very uh impatient with people who have bad manners in public. 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.840 It's it's actually a problem for me. Like in life. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.199 It's a little bit of a challenge because I like 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.760 to think that I'm very understanding and very reasonable with people, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.159 right and you know, I get it, Like, you know, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.119 I'm the one who if I can see, you know, 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.359 a server in a restaurant is busting you know, his 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.600 or her butt to do everything they can, but they're understaff. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.800 Like I'm the one who tells. I'm like, hey, it's cool, 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:58.400