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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't wear makeup on camera.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another addition of the Round the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanss and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Gregg Rose

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Speaker 1: withal boys. Dan wors some makeup occasionally. That drop is accurate,

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Speaker 1: though on Sunday nights, no makeup, even though we did

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Speaker 1: tape an extra video today that you can find on

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Speaker 1: NFL now of our biggest takeaways. Eighteen seconds into the

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Speaker 1: The people demanded it, and now we have our own

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL folder on NFL. You know what we

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Speaker 1: should be plugging. Dan hands is cornal of skills we

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Speaker 1: played over the weekend. Dan has the spin down. He's

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Speaker 1: now number two in the l A Power rankings. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: think I held my own as well. You won every

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Speaker 1: game you played, all right, but let's tell Dan skills

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Speaker 1: well because he was on your team. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about this later. I don't like the way

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Speaker 1: also something that's dawning on me. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite images uh, and thank you West

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Speaker 1: in a makeup chair, something you cannot imagine ever happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's bad. Could you have like when you were delivering

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Speaker 1: was mazing dogs? All right, so it is, of course

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Speaker 1: week ten. This is our Sunday recap show. Another big

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Speaker 1: week of NFL action is as we head deeper into November.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy we're almost heading towards Thanksgiving now and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden will be the playoffs stretch. But

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Speaker 1: right now, this is that the crucial middle section of

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Speaker 1: the season where stuff just starts to get clear in

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Speaker 1: the fakers fade and the real men step up. That's

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Speaker 1: where we're at. Mark's shaking his head. Well, I just

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Speaker 1: don't I Just as I've mentioned, I refused to look

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Speaker 1: midpoint I view around Week thirteen the midpoint. You kep

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Speaker 1: on pushing it back well, because it's like a guy

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Speaker 1: of the day. Mark again giving hints that he just

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Speaker 1: is cashing that paycheck. I just let's not call week

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Speaker 1: eate something that's not, by the way, filling in for

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about a guy cashing in a

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Speaker 1: pageche come back. I will say that since Mark and

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Speaker 1: for one, I can't speak for the other gentleman. I'm confident.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, I appreciate the vote of confidence for me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, I appreciate the confidence you got it from

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Speaker 1: all of us. Yeah, Mark, what's wrong with taking a

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's all sorts of issues floating

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Speaker 1: with the game that maybe jumped out to us is

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Speaker 1: If that's what happens in the NFC South, you have

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Speaker 1: At which NFC superpower should they be afraid of? Right?

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Speaker 1: the by the now eight and one Cards. But this

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Speaker 1: But for Carson Palmer, it's like he's been looking for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers at the Meadow Ends. This was a game

430
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Speaker 1: where various reports or or tweets i should say, stated

431
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: the balance of the crowd was about sixty forty Pittsburgh fans.

432
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: All those Steelers fans. They were the black and gold,

433
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: nice and adorable, and they were, you know, looking for

434
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Speaker 1: a big party in New York or in New Jersey.

435
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: But guess what happened. The Jets showed up. Hallelujah. The

436
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: Jets showed up. And Bernard the toaster master in the

437
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: upper deck no jumping, maybe jumping for joy as he

438
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: watched the Jets deliver an actual sound defensive performance, and

439
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Michael Vick made some plays. And there you go. And

440
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Steelers. I don't know what to make

441
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: of the Steelers anymore. It's the same old situation. Every

442
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: time you start to get sucked in and thinking they're

443
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: a team, their most dangerous team in the ANFC potentially,

444
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: or one of the most dangerous teams, they lay an

445
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: egg like they did today, and it makes you wonder,

446
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: how can I trust you Pittsburgh thought, how did the

447
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: Jets stop the Steelers? Because I think there's several times

448
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: this year where you look at the Steelers and say

449
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: they have way too much talent to be held down

450
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Speaker 1: by this team. I you know, and I don't consider

451
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: myself a genius of play calling, but I don't know

452
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 1: what was going on with Todd Haley and the way

453
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: they attack the Jets the worst secondary and football. I

454
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: think everybody knows that the stats bear that out. West

455
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: delivered that hammer drop on the last podcast that it

456
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: was like a one twelve passer rating against the Jets

457
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: this year. One interception all season. The way to beat

458
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: this Jets team, and it's especially easy when you have

459
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell to loosen things up is to pass

460
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: down field and attack that secondary. Yet time and time

461
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: again through this game, they were checking down and trying

462
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: to drop a little screen passes over the defensive line,

463
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: and I could count at least I would think like

464
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: five passes that were completed uh to Levy on Bell

465
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: or others. They were then dragged down in the backfield.

466
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: They weren't aggressive and attacking the secondary, and then then

467
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: they got better they got in a little bit of

468
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: a hole and then the Jets were able to make

469
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: some adjustments. But all credits to the Jets um for

470
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: a team with second a secondary and cornerbacks you couldn't

471
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: even pull out of a lineup. They delivered a nice

472
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: performance against ROETHLISBERGI through two interceptions. This was the same

473
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: guy that threw twelve touchdowns over the past two weeks

474
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: and had thrown one interception all season, So he threw

475
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: two picks and there's just a really well played game.

476
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the field, Michael Vick

477
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: is a guy that can still play. I mean, he

478
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: is not a franchise quarterback that you're gonna build around

479
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: at this stage. But he threw a beautiful deep pass

480
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: the t J. Graham six d eight yard touchdown. He uh,

481
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: he broke Bryce Brown's ankles on a beautiful little crossover

482
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: move that's set up another score. So he can still move,

483
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: he could still throw, and it was just a great performance.

484
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: You can still play, He can still move, he can

485
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: still throw. Can he save wreck s? Ryan's job? I

486
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: was gonna ask the same thing, good question. I don't

487
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: think anybody could say Rex's job. Now my concern is

488
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: that the Jets finished strong. They won every game with

489
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I don't know if that

490
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: would even do it. I mean that would still be

491
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: four straight years. Yeah, I mean that is impossible. But

492
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: my concern is that they that Wood. He's already decided

493
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: that wex Rex. It's time for him to move on.

494
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: But a strong finish saves itzick, which I don't want.

495
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I think they need a fresh start all the way around.

496
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: And we'll see what happens. I mean, but well, you know,

497
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I think Rex has gone on

498
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: no matter what. What a day for Patriots fans. Uh

499
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: oh wow? What you know the Bills and for Brown's

500
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: a much bigger But I was gonna continue on. You know,

501
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: the Bills lose, the Dolphins, who will get too later

502
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: with our guy Kevin Patra They lose, and then the

503
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Jets win. They hurt their draft pick, and now they're

504
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna start fooling themselves into this whole VIC thing. It's

505
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: it's perfect. At one point, I could just Greg excusing

506
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: himself to an office and then like pulling up on

507
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: his phone Asa base and just dancing too. It's a

508
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: beautiful lat Oh, because you have such a beautiful, blessed life. Three,

509
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: you're the one with the ASA based reference there. I

510
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: don't want to work with anyone who listens to ASA Bace.

511
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: I wish we had the video podcast for that dance

512
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: move that. It's a beautiful lap Swedish pop Smith's of

513
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: the nineties. It was a special era, underrated and also

514
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: very overrated. They were. They were pretty bad, way better

515
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: than Aspace. I think they were the same thing. Essentially,

516
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: he's their children anyway. So yeah, nice win for the

517
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Jets in a weird situation for Pittsburgh new quarterbacks. Same

518
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: result for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who fell to one

519
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: at eight with seventeen lost to the Atlanta Falcons. That

520
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: snaps a five game losing streak for Atlanta. Mark, what

521
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: did you see from Josh mccow today, who, of course

522
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: replaced Mike glennon the starting lineup for the Bucks. Well,

523
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a you know, first blush, he's a

524
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: he's a better short term answer for what is a

525
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: lost season than Glennon. I mean he actually comes out

526
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: in the game seventeen play opening drive that shoots Choose

527
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: up eight and a half minutes and goes for forty

528
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: seven yards. It's Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I'm saying that's

529
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: the Tampa Buccaneers. But also he got hit hard late

530
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: in this thing and stuck in a game that I

531
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: think other quarterbacks would have exited out of. He was

532
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: emotional after they lost. I mean, it's not about does

533
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: Josh McCown is he tough enough, or does he wanted

534
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: any of that stuff that just this team cannot get

535
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: it together. Announcers are always really impressed by drives that

536
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of plays and then passing it to

537
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot of different receivers, and then ever that never

538
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: seems like a particularly impressive or you know, Jermaine Staff, Oh,

539
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: he passed at the eight different receivers, or they had

540
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: a nineteen play drive. Wouldn't be better to just have

541
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: a five play drive and score touches? I think that

542
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: also means a lot of those play is aren't working,

543
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: and that's what was going on with Tampa. And then

544
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: across the way, I mean this was you know, I

545
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: found out this morning that Greg had put me on

546
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: this game, and I thought I must have offended the

547
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: boss at some point and he assigned this affair, because really, yeah,

548
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: we're in there in that division where someone could have

549
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: a losing record and win it. But it would be

550
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: sad for any football fan outside of these two cities

551
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: to have to deal with one of these. Well, Atlanta

552
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and they're still in the mix. They're

553
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: one game back. They're in the mix, but they're not

554
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: in the mix in terms of what they are because yeah,

555
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: they haven't won a game since West and I covered

556
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: them beating up the Bucks in Week three, which feels

557
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: like seven years ago. At this point, it does feel

558
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: like a long time ago. I've a little torn on

559
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Josh McCown whether he's still my boy or not. This

560
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: seems like the best game by a Bucks quarterback all year, right,

561
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: But what are we saying when we say that? But

562
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: then he came out with one half of a Canadian

563
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: tuxedo in the and the like Dellie Ray Cyrus, I

564
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: was combined with Ivan Drago. Not a good look. Not

565
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: everybody has a brand new Fleece's that's that is a

566
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: great looking fleece. Thank you the colors. It's it evokes

567
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: feelings of the fall. That's what it's here for. Uh

568
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: love you Smith one and eight. No chance he gets

569
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: gets fired. Still with this team, it doesn't seem like

570
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: a box move that ownership. But I think the question

571
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: should be asked. Love Smith is the Mike Glennon of quarterbacks.

572
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I've seen enough. Justin four Sett ran for a hundred

573
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: and twelve yards and two touchdowns and the Baltimore defense

574
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: held the Titans to total yards and seven Ravens win.

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: That snaps a two game losing streak for Baltimore, who

576
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: stay right in the middle of the pack and the stack.

577
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Dave c A of c North the and I'm not

578
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: quite familiar with this team, the Titanics, Titanics, maybe the Titans.

579
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: The Titans have lost three straight. They fall to to

580
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: two and seven. Greg anything about Titanic named after the

581
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: movie Left of the Ship. That's how this that's how

582
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: this crew is going right now. Oh my gosh, this

583
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: this is the this is the last draft pick in

584
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: terms of the team that you don't want to watch.

585
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: I think right now, the Titans, it's got to be

586
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: in that mix that the Bucks. I guess they got

587
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: some players. Mike Evans and well, it's it's a week

588
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: to week proposition. You draw either your Sunday is going

589
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: to be gloomy and strange. I'd rather watch like Murder

590
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: in a small Town on Lifetime. I'd rather watch Titanic.

591
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I just like seeing my guy, Justin Forsett do it

592
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: every week. I mean, this is a random career year

593
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: to end all random career years. He's been on five

594
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: or six teams. You know, he's shorter than I am, practically,

595
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: and he's top five running back. He's got to make

596
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: the problem. He also wears that pounds than you, and

597
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: it's all muscle so and he's got outstanding lower bodies,

598
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: much better body than Greg. It's a safe bet. Ravens

599
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: were close in this game too for a while. I

600
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: mean this was it was tied at half time. Mettenburger

601
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: comes out and he's great for the first two drives,

602
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: and then they did absolutely nothing after that will be

603
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: completely forgotten to the stands of time. We will know it,

604
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: will ever think of this game ever again. After a

605
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: couple of days from now. It will never be mentioned

606
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: in conversation. Uh, nothing will ever come of this game.

607
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: It's just something that happened. It's over, and the world

608
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: moves forward. They had an eight drive stretch the Titans

609
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: did after their first two pretty good drives, one of

610
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: which ended with a fumball at the goal line, the

611
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: other one a touchdown, where three and out every drive

612
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: except for one drive where they got one first down

613
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: and then Mettenberger caps it off with an interception. Fire

614
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: that one up on Game rewind this week. So that

615
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: sounds a lot like Charlie Whitehurst. We've seen the Titans

616
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: offense go three and out so many times this year.

617
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: This is how crazy the NFL is today. For it

618
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: seems like for a quarter and a half, Mettenberger was

619
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: out playing rothen mm hmmm, the Battle of the Burgers.

620
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: I thought Connor or one last thing on this one,

621
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: made a good point that Ken wizzen Hunt the offense.

622
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: He saw the same play being run on consecutive drives,

623
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: the same patterns, the same stuff over and over. That

624
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: there's a lack of creativity. I think for the fans

625
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: that are paying money to watch these games that I

626
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: don't know if Jake Locker he's like the future, but

627
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's got to be a better option

628
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: to win games. You know how big Titanic was came

629
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: out December. I was a senior in high school. So

630
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, he had a bunch of joke collective courses

631
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: when you're senior in high school. Uh, we had a

632
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: film class that our teacher, who's a very nice woman,

633
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: she turned the class into a Titanic class where the

634
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: entire semester we learned about Titanic. That's terrible and then

635
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: not Yeah, but you have to take yourself back to

636
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: that period. It was a ship that I know it

637
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: because of this course. But we we did a mock

638
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: documentary about the Titana mocumentary. Mockumentary. Uh, we watched We

639
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: went to the theater to see the film, and I

640
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: recall many of the girls in my class had already

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Speaker 1: seen it about ten times by this point. Uh, capture

642
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. I like that. No guy I know will

643
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: admit to having seen that film in the theater. But

644
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: there's no way with the financials that many men didn't

645
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: go to see it. Twice I was held hostage on

646
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: an airplane while the movie was plane. It wasn't an

647
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: awful movie. I didn't think it was awful by any story.

648
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: It was long. I'll admit that I went to see it.

649
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Is that a crime? I went to see it I

650
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: actually enjoyed it in the moment, Winslet frisky like he

651
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Winsley quite a bit. All right, moving forward, Greg is

652
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: about the fire both of us, Matthew in the theater.

653
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: We all did in the West Side. I remember that

654
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: was there on opening night. I know we're talking through

655
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: the music now. The line for Titanic was like a nothing.

656
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: I got in line for show Girls wasn't going You

657
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: got in line for show Girls the first was a

658
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: horrible decision. Remember how hot Elizabeth Berkeley was like as

659
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: the girl coming out of Saved by the Bell. She

660
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: wasn't even she was like the bronze medalist amongst the

661
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Saved by the Bell. We went to this like me

662
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: and twenty guys that I We went to this movie

663
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: and saw like every other guy, and then we didn't

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Speaker 1: even stay for like halfway through the movie. Was that

665
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: bag bunch of dudes rolled? Yeah, and then we walked

666
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: out like it was that bad we had to leave. Alright,

667
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: it's a strange thing. Let's try this again. Matthew Stafford

668
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: through an eleven yard touchdown past the Theo Reddick with

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Speaker 1: twenty nine seconds to play, lifting the lines to sixty

670
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and went over the Miami Dolphins and what was Calvin

671
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Johnson's return to the line of successful return to the lineup.

672
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Speaker 1: To talk about this this game, we gotta go to

673
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: our guy. Uh he is our Chicago corresponded via Detroit

674
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Rock City. He's the great Kevin Patra. He loves going

675
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: to the gym, he loves watching football, he loves writing

676
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: about football, and he loves talking about football. And now

677
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna talk about football on the podcast. Kevin Patrick

678
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: coming at you? What about it? What's going on? Fellas

679
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: beautiful intro? Dan, thank you, hey? You know my whole

680
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: life that encapsulated right there. I nailed it a home run.

681
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm walking off the Lions find a way again. I'm

682
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Kevin, you are a Lions fan. You've

683
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: suffered a lot, a little little magic and the statements

684
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: there are they a little different this year? Potentially? Yeah?

685
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean they just three weeks in a row, they

686
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: come back under two minutes and won the game. That's

687
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Stepford has struggled throughout the year, but when it comes

688
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: down to crunch time, he makes throws. It's almost like

689
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: he's like afraid to get in trouble. For over three

690
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: quarters and then at the very end he's like, got

691
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: screw it, I'm just gonna make this pass anyway, And

692
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: he made. He made plays and they have him back

693
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: fed on him in the last three weeks. That throw,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that throw to Riddick is on the

695
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: short list for me throw of the Year. In fact,

696
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: number one for me is Week one against the Giants

697
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: by Matthew Stafford when he hit Megatron on the back

698
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: of the end. So this is on the list too.

699
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: He went side arm, slung it at an angle on

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00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: a line like a bullet. Riddick was covered like a

701
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: glove on the play, but he put it in a

702
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: spot where only his receiver could get it, came over

703
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: and and I'll tell you this though every line spin

704
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Walton that Reggie Bush would have dropped that back. So

705
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: it did. It went to the right guy too, absolutely

706
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: ready Bush would Bush would have dropped that no doubt

707
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: in my mind. Reggie Bush only had five touches in

708
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Speaker 1: this game. Is he just not a major part of

709
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: this team anymore? Well, I think he tweaked it. He

710
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: looked actually his first tweet carriers Will looked good. And

711
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: then I think he tweaked something. He went down, he

712
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: was gout it down and then he didn't really touch

713
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: the ball after that. Again, it was like they were

714
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: he was in there as a decoy after that. So

715
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you retweaked his ankle or what,

716
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: but after he got hurt, he didn't come back yet.

717
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: He didn't play very much after that. Greg, you who

718
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: had you had? Greg the hero pick on the Dolphins?

719
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: You were invested in and of course, uh you tell

720
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Speaker 1: me your thoughts about the Dolphins and their inability to

721
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: stay hot? Is this the same old Dolphins scenario we're

722
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: talking about here? Wow? I mean they blew it. I

723
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: mean they had this game, they were ahead, they had

724
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: fought back, Their defense looked pretty good. All these Lions

725
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: fans killing me on Twitter? Oh, how dare you say

726
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: you pick again? By the way, you're your fellow fans

727
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: not a good group, Kevin Patrick right through a few things.

728
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they were just going crazy after the first quarter.

729
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: How's your defense looking? Now? You know them for you

730
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: just piped out? Oh I blocked them off. Didn't everyone

731
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: do that? Actually, like every fan base says they're they're

732
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: sack people that do that. They were particularly particularly aggressive.

733
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Speaker 1: But this is a loss that will haunt Miami because

734
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: you know they were on the road, they were in

735
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: position to win. There was a big drop in this

736
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: game right by Charles Clay Kevin m I mean that

737
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: that if he catches that, then then maybe they don't

738
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Speaker 1: wind up losing. They fought back and put themselves into position.

739
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Channahill put that ball uh six

740
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: and was out in front of him instead of behind him,

741
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: and it's touchdown ahead of Boat doesn't isn't able to

742
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: get back to knock it down. So it was a

743
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: little Panhill was on the on the roll. I thought

744
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: tun to help should have ran that ball into the

745
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: ends and I felt you that it random touchdown and

746
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: then threw it. It was a little behind. And but

747
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Speaker 1: here here's what I'll say is the lines at a

748
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: ten point leading, it felt like it should have been

749
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: twenty because they have two difference makers and Calvin Johnson

750
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: and Domin Kinsoue, and the Dolphins really don't have people

751
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: like Golden Tate. I mean it was third and ten.

752
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: This game is on the line here and the lines

753
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: pick up, you know, the first down on that final drive.

754
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: If not for that, again, I mean the Dolphins defense

755
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: had a lot of chances to close up. Was Sue

756
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: the best player on the field today, Patrick? Oh? Absolutely.

757
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean from the first two defensive snaps they had,

758
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: he stuffed Miller for a three yard loss and then

759
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: blew up Pouncy, just destroy Tannehill. Tannehill got worked over

760
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: in this game their offensive line, especially after Albu went down,

761
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: which we didn't even talk about. That's a big loss

762
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: for them. He got beaten up. I was surprised he

763
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: could get up out after a couple of times. All right, lastly, Megatron,

764
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: how do you look, dude? He looked like he was healthy.

765
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: He certainly put up the production. Yes, he looked he

766
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: looked fine. Uh the deep ball early Actually, I thought

767
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Brent Grimes did his best job as you could went

768
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: since they didn't give him any help. They weren't. They

769
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: weren't really doubling him in most situations. They were just like,

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00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: al right, Brent, this guy's football or new but have

771
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: had his son and he actually he knocked a few

772
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: balls away that Megatron should have put up over two

773
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: d yards against the different corner I thought today. Yeah,

774
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Speaker 1: and as Kevin mentioned, and we don't want to skip

775
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: right over Brandon Albert, who was their best the Miami

776
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins best offensive player. I think was headed to a

777
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, maybe maybe a first team or second team

778
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: All Pro. No this year. Uh injured his knee and

779
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins expect him to be out for the season.

780
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: Did not look good, so it's a massive loss for them.

781
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna move their first round pick Jown James over

782
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: to left tackle, but then right tackles a mass. They

783
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: have the Bills coming in. I mean that that's a huge,

784
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: huge loss for Miami. Thank you, Kevin appreciated. Fellas have

785
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: a good one. A fast start gave way to a

786
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: hard crash for the Oakland Raiders, who gave up thirty

787
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: five unanswered points and what became a seventeen loss to

788
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos at the black Hole, Peyton mounted Peyton

789
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: Manning bounced back from two early interceptions to throw five

790
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns before exiting after three quarters. And I will say

791
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: about this game, the final score doesn't quite indicate what

792
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: this game was shaping up as at least early the

793
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: Raiders came out frisky is Kate wins Litt and titanic.

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00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: They were they were making some plays, they forced Manning

795
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Speaker 1: into those two picks. Uh. Manning storing four picks in

796
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: the last two weeks now, and they seemed to be,

797
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, pumped up. Derrick carthrew a touchdown pass off

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: a turnover, and things seemed to be looking good. It

799
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Speaker 1: all changed though, on a third down checkdown pass excuse me,

800
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: checkdown pass uh to C. J. Anderson, who alluded three tacklers,

801
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: then cut around the field for a touchdown to put

802
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: him ahead. And then they never looked back. They just

803
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: kept scoring. After that, the Raiders looked hapless. They looked

804
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: like a team that is oh and nine and uh,

805
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: that's a situation around the other Brocots took care of business,

806
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: and the Raiders, while they've they've shown flashes of time,

807
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: they keep losing. I think that's fifteen straight now. It's insane.

808
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. It really is. In the NFL.

809
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: You don't see teams even you'll you'll come up against

810
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: some game or everything clicks. You know, you run into

811
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: like a drug induced dandy Dalton, like what we saw

812
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, and everything just happens to you induce

813
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: him just saying I think that he looked to me

814
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: to be the influence of something I don't know. Fifteen

815
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: straight and Greg wants to give their GM an extension,

816
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: and I don't want to give him anything. I'm saying,

817
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: I think it could happen because he's had a good

818
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: draft class, that's all. How did the quarterback look today?

819
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: He looks. It looks like he'd had to look up

820
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: to see the Gabbard zone, Derek Carr. This is why

821
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: stats are can be very misleading sometimes. He he began

822
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: the last drive. I think they went on a ninety

823
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: six yard touchdown drive with less than two minutes to play.

824
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Speaker 1: Heading into that drive, I believe he was um. I

825
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: believe nineteen of forty for ninety yards and two interceptions

826
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: and a panic shovel pass through his own lineman that

827
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: led to a lost fumble that's set up a backbreaking score.

828
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: He missed a lot of guys, a lot of a

829
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: lot of open receivers. You know, car has had some

830
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: really nice moments as a rookie, and this is just

831
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: uh part part of the course. They're gonna be games

832
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: where he is not gonna look good at all, and

833
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: putting him up against face to face against Peyton Manning,

834
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: it it wasn't probably gonna end well, they weren't gonna

835
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: win any shoot and on a team that did nothing

836
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: in the off seaon to convince us that they actually

837
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna able to run the ball. And that's what I

838
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: don't even know if they had they dressed running backs,

839
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: and I mean a rookie quarterback more than Tea. I

840
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: think he threw about what fifty passes in the game.

841
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: They you know, so when you ask a rookie to

842
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: throw that many passes against the very good number defense,

843
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: you know he took some hard hits in the game.

844
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: It was just no no bueno. The Broncos in this

845
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: game kind of did what I think of as they're

846
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: defining trait among Peyton Manning, which in the Peyton Manning

847
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: era with the Broncos, which is that when they score,

848
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: they score a ton in a hurry. I mean, they

849
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: scored four touchdowns in this game in less than nine

850
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: minutes of playing time. And that seems to always happen

851
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: with this team, that that you'll stop him for a

852
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: half of it look like a game and then it's

853
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: just like an avalanche. They make it look so easy

854
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: and and we all knew this already, but to watch

855
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: the game closely and see it how it unfolds, how

856
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: many weapons Manning has at his disposal. Manuel Sanders is

857
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: if it's I didn't think it was possible, but he's

858
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: probably a better option than Erik Decker or no loss

859
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: at all to Marius Thomas had eleven catches in this game,

860
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: or I believe nine catches went over a hundred yards. Uh.

861
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Sanders and Julius Thomas had two touchdowns each. Uh, and

862
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: then you had uh West Welker is not even really

863
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: a big part of this office. That tells you so much. Yeah,

864
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: and and they it says it's not a big problem

865
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: because they have so many guys. Talk about the backfield

866
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: real quick. Ronnie Hillman against the Patriots didn't do anything,

867
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: and he didn't do anything in this game. He's been

868
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: playing injured. Did you get a sense that injuries were

869
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: affecting him? Or C. J. Anderson was just better. I mean,

870
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: this is a hard game to judge because they did

871
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: start off slow, and then once they went into that

872
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: scoring baragers really done with Manning's arm. They had a

873
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: lot of quick strikes off good field position. I know

874
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: that Anderson he had the play of the game the

875
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: turning point which I talked about earlier, uh, which you know,

876
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: to me probably gave him more of a workload in

877
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: this game. Hillman didn't look right. I think he was

878
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: on the sideline with an issue at some point in

879
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: the game as well. So I woant to put too

880
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: much into the snap breakdown between the two in this game,

881
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: but it's something to keep an eye on, because H

882
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: c J looked very good. C J, Yeah, we're buddies,

883
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: were boys, oh John J. Marshawn Lynch piled up a

884
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: hundred and forties total yards and a career high four

885
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: touchdown runs and the Seahawks seventeen win over the New

886
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: York Giants at the clink, H, this was a game

887
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: that was actually seventeen seventeen entering the fourth quarter. What happened? Mark? Wow,

888
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: you really want to know, all right? I'll try to

889
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: tell you know when we write these games up. The

890
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: first like big takeaway from me was that Seattle's passing

891
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: game up to that seventeen seventeen tie very troubled. It's

892
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: the second third week in a row where they really

893
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: looked kind of off kilter. I think Greg you called

894
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: it a completely random passing attack, and it's you know,

895
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: they're not getting Russell Wilson's not getting great protection, and

896
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: they miss Percy Harvin, whether people want to believe that

897
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: or not, and they definitely miss Golden Tap. They have

898
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: no one that can take the top off a secondary.

899
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: But by the end of the game and the way

900
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: they came back and just blued the doors off, the

901
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: New York Giants was leaning on Russell Wilson on the

902
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: ground and especially Marshawn Lynch, I think for the second

903
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: week in a row, absolutely insane on the ground. I

904
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: mean they ran for three hundred and fifty yards obviously

905
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: most by a team this year on a franchise record. Wow.

906
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: One guy I want to talk about on the Giants.

907
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: When I've watched Beckham play, I I genuinely see greatness

908
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: out of him. This guy is gonna be an absolute superstar. Yeah.

909
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: New York was very smart and Beckham was smart to

910
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: take the first six weeks of the season to rest

911
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: and prepare and get ready. But no, you know, to

912
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: be honest, like we talked about down, does he have

913
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: a chance to sneak into the offensive Rookie of the

914
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Year competition? I don't know how that whole thing actually

915
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: plays and kept up this faith. I think he look,

916
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: he was outstanding game. There was one There was one

917
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: drive where they went right at Richard Sherman and he

918
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: had like a forty four yard pick up off Sherman,

919
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: and then two plays later or something another twenty six

920
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: yard game right down the same sideline. I mean, New York.

921
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: And this is the third week in a row where

922
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: teams have not shied away from throwing at Sherman. And

923
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: we don't want to make too much of that except

924
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: that that's a banged up secondary and a os. But

925
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: Beckham one playoff to the next, I mean, I agree

926
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: with you, has been one of the best players. Wouldn't

927
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: surprise me if he ends up with the best career

928
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: out of any of the receivers. And this this might

929
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: be the best rookie class what we've seen since the

930
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: Midnight the Seahawks seems so weird though you it's I

931
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: think it's fair to call this kind of a two

932
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: man backfield right now. And and it's Lynch and Wilson.

933
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I really mean it that that those are

934
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: their two backs because they rely on Wilson running the

935
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: ball with planned or not like that's a huge, huge

936
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: element of there. They don't have much else to rely on.

937
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: You have a lot of those runs today were designed

938
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: runs obviously, and you know, like you mentioned downstairs, right

939
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: if something feels a little desperate about it from Seattle,

940
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: because you don't want to have to be doing that

941
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: with what with Russell Wilson. But they had eighty yards

942
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: passing with about forty forty minutes of the game going by, right,

943
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: and then when they hit on the big play, It's

944
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: kind of what I was talking about in terms of randomness.

945
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson made an amazing jew I believe to get

946
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: away from forgetting which Giants defender who basically got in

947
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: free like an amazing lateral quickness move to get away

948
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: from pressure, then evaded another pressure and then kind of

949
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: extended the play and then through it through a deep

950
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: Those are the types of plays that they're getting anything else, gentlemen,

951
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: I think we've sealed it up all right, Well, then

952
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: why don't we just move on to the Sunday night

953
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: football game? Another prime time stunner. Oh my god, poor Alan,

954
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: poor Chris, oh Man. This game was over. Sometimes you

955
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: know what games over within ten minutes is one of

956
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: those games, the Greenbay Packers would afford it to nothing

957
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: by the end of the second quarter. Aaron Rodgers through

958
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: six touchdown passes in two quarters in Route two, one

959
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: of the one of the great blowouts of the season.

960
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: And and if you are the fan of the Chicago Bears,

961
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: you're I would imagine you're thinking, well, first of all,

962
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of Packers, you're thinking, we are

963
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team. We are looking hot, were

964
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: feel good, life is great, We're the best quarterback in

965
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: the world. If you're a Bears fan, you're thinking of

966
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: hitting the red destruct button right at this point, I

967
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: know you're luckily if you're not drunk at the bottom

968
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: of a ditch right now, to forget listening to a podcast,

969
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: you've already one. It's very fair. I mean, I think

970
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: that like last year, at this time, there was so

971
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: much optimism around Mark Trustman and what he had brought

972
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: to a really lifeless offense for years under Lovey Smith.

973
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: He completely rebooted the machine. There. Now I'm looking at

974
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: this team and I'm wondering, are they one of the

975
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: worst coach teams in the league. They just look completely unprepared.

976
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: And this isn't the first week where the wheels have

977
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: fallen off. They went out and bought three pass rushers,

978
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: drafted too defensive tackles early in the first couple of rounds,

979
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: and they're one of the worst defenses. I was that

980
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: secondary in the first half was one of the worst

981
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: performances I've ever seen. They are a win in Atlanta

982
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: away from a six game losing streak right now. I mean,

983
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: you gotta give him that win. They earned it, But

984
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean they're not just getting there. They've had a

985
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: very tough schedule. They're playing some of the better teams

986
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: in the league, like New England and Green Bay a

987
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: couple of times, and they just showed that they're nowhere

988
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: near that. That they're closer like a five win type

989
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: of team than a playoff team. And you asked earlier

990
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: in the show, a team likes the Saints, whoever wins

991
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: the South or whatever. What NFC team that's a dominant

992
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: stands in their way, And that's a really fair question,

993
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: because there isn't one necessarily, but green Bay, like Pittsburgh,

994
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: for instance, when we see Pittsburgh operating at peak performance,

995
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: when green Bay's doing it, are you kidding me. Do

996
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: you take Drew Brees and friends out of the seventy

997
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: two degree Dome and put them in ten degree Lambeau

998
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: in the middle of January, it would be a disaster. Well,

999
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: and the Packers do look a little bit better. I mean,

1000
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: the Clay Matthews at inside linebacker that was experiment couldn't

1001
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: have worked any better. He was wreaking havoc. I think

1002
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: that maybe they'll go to that permanently. They came out

1003
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: of the bye week with that plan. And you know,

1004
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: as far as what Greg, you wrote a piece a

1005
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks back now saying that the the Broncos

1006
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: were the best team in full ball. The Packers that

1007
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: far off or is this a situation where we can't

1008
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: put too much into this game because the Bears are

1009
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: just in shutdown mode. I don't think the Packers are

1010
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: that far off. But I think your second point is

1011
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: also a good one, because Ryan Tannehill looked perfect when

1012
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: he played against the Bears, and the Patriots looked perfect

1013
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: when you know they played against the Bears. But the

1014
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: Packers defense has steadily gotten better all year. They're running

1015
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: game and Eddie Lacy, you know, not totally, but the defense,

1016
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: which we kind of expected to be much better, has

1017
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: improved a lot, especially in the secondary. Mark, how are

1018
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: you feeling about the trade that I orchestrated, trading Aaron

1019
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: Rodgers three days ago? Uh, in exchange for Randall Cobb.

1020
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: So after two weeks of having Big Ben on the

1021
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: bench with six touchdowns, we move him into the starting lineup,

1022
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: trade Rogers and then he throws six touchdowns. So three

1023
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: weeks in mis six six touchdowns, way quarterback, three weeks

1024
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: in a row. Well in our team. Name is Kate

1025
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: Mara and she is of the Mara and Rooney heritage,

1026
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: so she of course with one. Rather have a Steelers

1027
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: quarterback running a team that's gonna do a late charge

1028
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: into the championship. One Aaron Rodgers at your quarter? Oh wait,

1029
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: yes you do? You know what you want, as Mark

1030
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: as your co owner, for him to be supportive after

1031
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: that disasters the Bears are on my fantasy team. You're right.

1032
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Other aspects, I'm very plugged in, all right. So that's

1033
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: it for Sunday's edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

1034
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: We will be back on Wednesday with another show, And

1035
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: I know we've got a lot of tweets about uh,

1036
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: when you're gonna stick a fork in some teams and

1037
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: we are going to be sticking some fork. People are

1038
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: gonna get forked on Wednesday. And a little spoiler alert,

1039
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: we might be talking about the Bars. You might be

1040
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: talking about forking the Chargers as team of h l ah.

1041
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a West narrative that is not

1042
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: too crazy. I've already forked in myself. You guys can

1043
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: hold off on that until later in the season if

1044
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: you want. You know who we wouldn't fork is Zack.

1045
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: What a great job behind And then you could plug

1046
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: in a sound effect of cheering or clapping on your

1047
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: behald healthy Zach, by the way, fully healthy. You're at work,

1048
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: operating at high level. Plus we're keeping away. We're giving

1049
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: you away from your first love. Your Twitter profile description

1050
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: and says what it says. I love pizza, pizza, tacos

1051
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: and burgers, and there are there's pizza downstairs. Why don't

1052
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: we all celebrate that fins out of his chair and

1053
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: leaves his headstone stangling, shutting down the whole machine up here,

1054
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: go downstairs, have a little pizza party. Alright, This Dan

1055
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Hanson signing off with the Sizzler, the mailman, the Boss

1056
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: and the great Zack Dressler behind the glass until Wednesday,

1057
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: No