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Speaker 1: Celebrip. Hello Monty, I'm so glad you could have joined

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Speaker 1: me in Aspen, Colorado at this Gottess Ski weekend. Frock,

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Speaker 1: I've been dying to meet you. Man. You are one

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Speaker 1: of the most respected CEOs in the country. I admire

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Speaker 1: McDonald as a company so much. Monty, you are so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I love your style. As we say in Vilin eestrasen flackenstrauter,

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Speaker 1: which loosely translates to that as a man, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to be in charge of my burrito. Potentially, of course,

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Speaker 1: I've set as we say in Denver, he who hits

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Speaker 1: actually watching you from my chalet. Oh beautiful room. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I respect you as a man and a business partner

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Speaker 1: or future business partner for setting me up in such

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Speaker 1: a beautiful shell. Patent haven't decided yet. As you know,

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Speaker 1: the corporate ownership structure of McDonald's as it relates to

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Speaker 1: Chipotle is sort of up in the air right here. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I would never be presumptuous, but sometimes I am, and

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Speaker 1: I want to be presumptuous right now. You have an

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Speaker 1: amazing body. I'm a married man and father of two

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Speaker 1: beautiful children. But when I see another fellow businessman with

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Speaker 1: great athletic ability, it inspires me, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Bavaria, of course, skiing down the

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Speaker 1: and I go to separate sex clubs in Berlin Hamburg.

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Speaker 1: She goes Superlin, I go to Hamburg. Obviously very very funny,

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Speaker 1: and it is quite a workout. So yes, that is

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Speaker 1: what you're seeing as part of my body, and of

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Speaker 1: course not the McDonald's food, which I do not No,

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Speaker 1: of course not, I would never, But again I do

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Speaker 1: respect how you work that company structure and you how

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Speaker 1: you handled the IPO. So I propose that we get

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Speaker 1: nude in the hot tub as a way to absolutely

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Speaker 1: absolutely I'm extremely comfortable getting nude with fellow prospective business partners.

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Speaker 1: Would you mind, um if I offered you a platonic

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Speaker 1: business massage. That sounds like a great way to get

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Speaker 1: the board on board, if you know what I mean. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: with the front. Yes, a front massage. Okay. I do

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Speaker 1: things a little bit differently and you'll come to find

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Speaker 1: that out. I feel like you might be a great

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Speaker 1: fit for Oh shocks. Thanks. I'm going to bring Chipotle

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Speaker 1: places you never thought they could go. I want to

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Speaker 1: see the solar system. Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 1: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone

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Speaker 1: and you've got books on a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook, it's mamoir, it's Martini.

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Speaker 1: Clebrit book Club can read it while it's hot. Celebrity

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Speaker 1: book Club, tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 1: No boys are alloud. Celebrit book Club say it loud

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Speaker 1: and cloud Celebrity book Club. Buzz Man. I brought the

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Speaker 1: queer foe. What the freaks up? My dude, Steve, my

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Speaker 1: fucking dude, Lily. It is so good to see you.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. Hours literally hasn't been

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. We had an amazing weekend together in

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Speaker 1: vermontal say it. We had an amazing weekend nature fun,

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Speaker 1: board games. It was pretty peg. It was WILDLYPG. Yes,

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Speaker 1: noise be made. Oh hell yeah, so yeah, we'll give

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Speaker 1: you a taste. Even though this is kind of VIP

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Speaker 1: lounge materials. Do you subscribe? Yeah, do you subscribe? Definitely subscribe.

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Speaker 1: You'll get a lot of stories like the one you're

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Speaker 1: about to hear, which this we're talking all night long

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Speaker 1: at a condo. We're blasting Miranda Lambert's new album, Palomino.

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Speaker 1: Stream it, download it, buy it on iTunes, get it

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Speaker 1: on vinyl from Miranda Lambert dot com. Read fifty five winery.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to my brother for installing bows speakers as

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Speaker 1: the former co CEO Mexican Grill Monty Moran and his

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Speaker 1: memoir Love Is Free Guacas Extra. How vulnerable, vulnerability and

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Speaker 1: how could do this? How vulnerability vulnerability, but vulnerability, empowerment

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it. So Monte Morand is

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Speaker 1: not a faggot. He's on the cover of the book.

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Speaker 1: It's very like and he's freckily in this way that

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Speaker 1: reading someone who's adjacent to a founder. And so Monty

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Speaker 1: Moran is he's spiritually Denver, but he lives in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Garden where you're here your family? Okay, well I am

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Speaker 1: opening up like a big, like fast, casual barbecue place

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Speaker 1: slash book Club, zok dot dot com slash book Club.

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Speaker 1: Ditch the talk. Okay, I want to talk about a

426
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: phrase that is going to reverberate through my brain forever,

427
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: which is low Doo Lodo. Yeah, let's talk about Lodo

428
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: because that on my notes so low third. So he

429
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: talks about basically like how it was fate that Chipotle

430
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: was like based near his law firm in Lodo, which

431
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: is lower downtown Denver. A couple a couple of years

432
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: after heading up the litigation team in our downtown Denver

433
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: office building with the firm Fifing, Quirky started to look

434
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: for a building to buy. In two thousand and one,

435
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: he found a beautiful historic building in the exciting lower

436
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: downtown Lodo, Denver neighborhood, which, as fate would have it,

437
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: happened to be right across the street from the office

438
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: building that Chipotle moved into. Five years later. The way,

439
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: he's getting chills about Lodo, okay, and then if I

440
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: may continue here to his first day full time at Tripotle.

441
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: It was sad to leave my law firm for ten years,

442
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: having completely devoted to my associates, partners, and clients. But

443
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: on March fifth, two thousand and five, I became president

444
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: and chief operating officer at Tripotle. A tear rolled down

445
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: on my cheek. As I steered my car right into

446
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Chipotles underground parking structure that morning instead of left into

447
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: my law firms garage. I reassured myself that leaving a

448
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: wonderful pass was necessary to be reborn into something new

449
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: and mysterious. With this sentiment in mine, I felt the

450
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: elevator gently lift my feet up into the historic brick

451
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: and timber building of Chipotles Lower Downtown Denver headquarters, not

452
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: the timber, also calling it a parking structure. So insane

453
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: to have a tear roll down your cheek as you

454
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: enter a parking structure. When I leave this podcast for

455
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: a different Dumbo podcast, it's just right across street, and

456
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm like. As I wheeled my city bike and looked

457
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: at the Prolog offices, a tear rolled down my cheek

458
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: as I turned right and went into the Water Street entrance.

459
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: So this is actually about me getting a job at

460
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: Scotch and Soda as I walked in, because I actually

461
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: have to devote myself full time to being a regional

462
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: manager of Scotch and Soda. I walked into the glass

463
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: doors at Scotch and Soda, chills on my arms as

464
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I put on a military style blazer and I got

465
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: fifty percent off. And then I start working as a

466
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: regional manager at Rod and Gun, which is the new

467
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: Zealand based men's wear store across the street from Scotch

468
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: and Soda. So around the corner from our studio Rod

469
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: and Gun, here's obviously rolling down and we're both we

470
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: both look at each other across from the glass, each

471
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: with this tier rolling down our cheek, and we wave

472
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: because now our new lives have begun. Okay, So he

473
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: is really spiritual and I think that's beautiful. Yeah, But

474
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: like is Buddha, he's always meeting another executive at just

475
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: like the most ted talk Buddha retreat meal. Here is

476
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: the fun cold open. But before he shed a tear

477
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: to the timber, he went with the German CEO of

478
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: McDonald's who owned Chipotle, and they went on a beautiful

479
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: men's business trip to Yeah and talked late into the

480
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: night because McDonald's like owned Chipotle at first and then

481
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: they like it went public and they like sold their

482
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: then Steve, but the straight up with this book was like,

483
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: I need to work so you can be on the

484
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: entrepreneur the restaurant tour to track yeah, and make like

485
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: ninety thousand again the company car. Wait, this is a hierarchy.

486
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: So you start at his crew, then you can become

487
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: kitchen manager. Then you can graduate to service manager. Those

488
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: are all hourly wage. Then it goes to salary. So

489
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: the first salary is apprentice, where you're making fifty k

490
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: a year, and you're still like apprentice, it's just like

491
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: a weird name, but you're still basically like yeah, the

492
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: line did is he basically just like gave new name positions,

493
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: which also I think it prending. It empowers a worker.

494
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: Then you can go to general manager, where you're now

495
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: you're suddenly making sixty three k. Then you can go

496
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: to restaurant tour where you're making ninety nine k yer

497
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: and you get the company card. I mean that's pretty fabout.

498
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so it's just like if you're sarning

499
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: as a lineworker, you're like, well, I have the ability

500
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: to like really move up, so I am going to

501
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: like put a lot of effort into these little like

502
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: pork things. Okay, can I ask you about your first

503
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: round children? Okay, college freshman year, because there wasn't there

504
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: was a huge Okay, so well, I guess that makes

505
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: sense because five he's just starting to work for Chipotle.

506
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: And then so Chipotles took our school ID card that

507
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: you could like put money on because they was like

508
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: meal plan as it's known in many Well, because my

509
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: college didn't have a meal planks. It was like a

510
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: city campus. There wasn't like a meal plan. It was

511
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: just but you could put money to like use that

512
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: like the random all right, right, there's no meal pan

513
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: on city campus. Okay, so yeah, that's not how we

514
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: work here. And I tried it for the first time

515
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is bomb. And then it

516
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: was the branding because I would get so jealous because

517
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: soon the ninety dollars on my student ID ran out

518
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: and I would see other students just get Chipotle burritos

519
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: every day for lunch, and I was like, how are

520
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: y'all well? I was like, how are y'all affording this? Like,

521
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: because I was like, I the twelve Bucks because they're

522
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: getting gualked, they're getting guaked, the sour cream, the cheese

523
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and I would be so jealous

524
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: and it seems so luxurious to just go to Chipotle

525
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: and grab this huge burrito. Okay. So I also went

526
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: my fresh premim of college. Do you remember I had

527
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: a crush on this guy who was like an Ari

528
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: on a different floor of my dorm. Yes, and we

529
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: liked he was a TV writer. Yeah, he was just

530
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: into TV and we would always watch TV together. That

531
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: was our thing. And just like my sweet mates were

532
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: always calling him Yoko ono because they're like, he's breaking

533
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: up the band, dude. It was like me and my

534
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: street roommates were always just like smoking wheat yeah, Lane

535
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: Lane dude. Yes, our bong was named Lane, and they

536
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: were like, we're TV friends. And then you were like,

537
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I have another TV right, So I go up to

538
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: his room much and then like one day he was

539
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: just being just like okay, like we're going to Chipotle,

540
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, what's Chipotle, and he was just like,

541
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, Chipotle, Oh, you're gonna find out. So we

542
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: like stomp over to Saint Mark's ship and he's been

543
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: like so s tragging. He's just like he's like okay,

544
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: like yeah, I usually get the ball, like that's what

545
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: I do, Like I drew ball, like you canibert or

546
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: whatever you want. And there was an insane long line

547
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: which used to be the thing Potla song crazy line.

548
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: No other plays had lines like that, and so like

549
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: that Monty talks about, and that created obviously the demand

550
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: because you see the line, you're like, well, everyone wants

551
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: it's those fabulous seas in the world. Of course I

552
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: have to get in this line like goddamn lozer. And

553
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: so I got it, and I was just like and

554
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: I guess I was kind of excited about the speed

555
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: of the of the construction and I was like, Okay,

556
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: this is new to me, Like I actually hadn't seen

557
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: assembly line burritos, clean assembly assembly limb burrito because they

558
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: did do. I guess it was a career and less

559
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: being like you're going to ten different people, yeah, where

560
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: someone is just making it right. It was assembly line

561
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: and they're like and they're passing and they're calling it

562
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: out and it's and it's working, and it seemed kidney pinto.

563
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: It was generous with the proportions, which I was excited by.

564
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: It kind of reminding me of like a fancy ski lodge,

565
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: like burned you up. Yeah, it reminded me of like

566
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: the cafeteria whistler. Do you know what I'm talking about.

567
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: I like to note that it was giving to me.

568
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it was glamorous because I was like, these

569
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: are huge portions and twelve dollars and I you know,

570
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: it was like poor college can't afford that, right, And

571
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: you were seeing it because it was glamorous ski large assemble. Yeah,

572
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we both saw the glass have

573
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: huge glamor. It was also another huge thing for me

574
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: was I'm a messy eater and it was the first

575
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: time I saw a bowl and I was like the

576
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: the trough and I was like, wait, hold on, so

577
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: I can like eat basically a burrito but with people

578
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: and not make a huge mask. Yeah. That and that's

579
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: back to the generosity that I think is at the

580
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: heart of Monte and this book in the business and

581
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: why it's been successful. It is because they're just like,

582
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: we know you need a bowl, we know you need

583
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: this trough and Tripotle is the type. It's kind of

584
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: funny because he's like, oh, the gay guy who originated it.

585
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: He ate so fast where I think of Chipotle as

586
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: speed eating, Like I get Chipotle now rarely, but I

587
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: get it when I'm so starving I'm passing a Chipotle,

588
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: And it's that thing where the first half of the

589
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: bowl of the Breda meeting, I'm like eating so fast

590
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: that I don't even notice I'm full till I'm literally

591
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: physically feeling sick and I'm cramping up. I don't never

592
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: actually feel full from shure. I think that the ingredients

593
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: are fresh enough that I don't feel like no, I

594
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: don't feel like the gross Oh. I always feel like

595
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: stuffed to the gills. I guess I have a really

596
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: small stomach, famously tiny stomach, one of the Chinese stomachs

597
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: in New York City. I do want to talk about

598
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: a little more about Steve Ells. Wait, okay, I was

599
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to have a CVL, so I just pulled

600
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: the passage where I think this is another very thinly

601
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: veiled reference to him being insane faggot. That September, Steve

602
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: told me he was leaving Chipole in your hands. He

603
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: moved from Denver, where Chipole was headquartered, to begin a

604
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: new life in New York City, specifically the West Villas.

605
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: Throughout two thousand and six and twos and seven, Steve

606
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: often told me that I felt like she took overseas

607
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: who's playing little time And he seemed he was very

608
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: much enjoying his life in New York and the freshness

609
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: of his newfound freedom, and maybe he split from a

610
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: longtime partner. I once such for meeting Steve's home in

611
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: the West Village. He suggested that it was time for

612
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: him to step down. It's just like the West Village apartment.

613
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: And he's just like this millionaire ceo, like he is

614
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: so like twenty seven. He would have been on Manhunt, yes,

615
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: which or Adam for Adam? You remember, Oh, I remember?

616
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: I remember you and friend of the Pod Sandbuck Rosing

617
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: logging on to manhunt dot com Adam for Adam, which

618
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: were just it's like web crazy wild West personals where

619
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: you know you just had your Basically A was a

620
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: MySpace page for Grinder and it was it was creepy

621
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: it was scary, it was weird, it was random, and

622
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: you really don't know what you were going over to.

623
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: I think he was picking up young trade. I think

624
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: he was picking up old trade. If you're a gay

625
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: guy in and let's just say it's Steve is a bottom.

626
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: When I looked at a picture of Steve, No, I know,

627
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: it's like he's kiss face is gayer than Kotokaro. I

628
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: mean given kind of like Niles vibes, like it's bald,

629
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: little glasses thine chomping into those burritos. Honey. Also, oh seven,

630
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: we flash back to Lodo. At that point, Denver is

631
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: on the freaking rise. I think that's the beginning of

632
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: true like mountain biking, more condos being built, more brewery

633
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: is like capital. Straight people are flying there. Yeah, oh no,

634
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: I read it in a sex diary, okay, New York magazine,

635
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: New York magazine, and it was a sex about and

636
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: that's and they call it she goes Denver or do is?

637
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: I call it Menver because the ratio is like six

638
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: to one male female. Jesus Christ, I think probably would

639
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: be there right now. Yeah, I think it's equal doubt,

640
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: but it was it's straight girls go to Denver paradise. Okay,

641
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: you're wondering, Oh, all these New York City fuck boys. Yea,

642
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: then they can get what they want. Go to Denver,

643
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: join a mountain biking club and thank me later. It's

644
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: like Caleb, like, let's talk to Liam lia Um. Okay,

645
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: this is also really gay. So this is right before

646
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Chapel Lego's public and m Monty and Steve are flying

647
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: private meeting with bankers. They're really torn. They're going to

648
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, five star restaurants Michelin, Michelin, Michelin, and Monty's Like.

649
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: During this whole time, Steve and Jack and I got

650
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: along very well. Our relationship felt so close. We laughed, joke,

651
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: teased each other, and had a lot of fun, even

652
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: as we worked tirelessly to represent our company excellently to

653
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: the prospective investors. On other occasions, I saw flashes of conflict.

654
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: One day in early two thousand and six, while we

655
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: were flying, I showed Steve a new organizational chart I

656
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: had devised for our leadership team. I had worked hard

657
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: on it and was excited that this new direction would

658
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: be great for our company. I asked Steve if you'd

659
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: take a look. He paused his work on his New

660
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 1: York Times crossword puzzle and said, in a warm tone, Sure,

661
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: I find when people say sure, it's actually one of

662
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: the bitchiest words in the English language. Yeah. I've never

663
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: in it in a nice way. Can you do this? Sure? Sure, sure, sure.

664
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: But as Steve looked at it, his face dropped and

665
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: what looked to me to be disappointment and frustration. My

666
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: heart sank and I felt butterflies in my stomach. This

667
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: is great work, he said, And this is CEO work. Sorry.

668
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: So actually it wasn't an issue. No, No, he was

669
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: pissed because he was like, you're undermining me. I'm the CEO.

670
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Steve wanted Monty to be CEO Steven.

671
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: Steve's words were clearly complimentary, his tone was not. He

672
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: sounded immensely frustrated and even offended. This left me deeply confused.

673
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: Don't you want me to do my best work? I replied,

674
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: And Monty's being such a like brew Regolden retriever. Yes,

675
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: but I'm the CEO. It makes me feel useless when

676
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: you were the one having these ideas. It makes me

677
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: wonder why the hell I'm even working here. Anymore. This

678
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: was so gay of him. But it's just like, you

679
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: obviously need this strake guy to be a straight guy

680
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: and do stuff. Yeah, he's like over there because lopping

681
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: up a crossworth and he's making charts and he's just

682
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: being so like Betty Davis movie nineteen seven Across. No,

683
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: he's literally be in nineteen forty seven Across And it's

684
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: just like, sorry, you need a straight guy, Like everyone

685
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: needs a straight guy to actually do something. Yeah, like

686
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: we all know this fact doesn't get anything done. First

687
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: of all, this scene the chapter that begins when he

688
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: meets the Whole Food ceo. In twenty ten, John Mackie,

689
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: the founder and CEO of Whole Foods, asked if I'd

690
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: meet him for breakfast at Boulders Douchan Bay teahouse that

691
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: killed him this location, and it's just like towards the

692
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: NFR breakfast, John asked to be willing to give a

693
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: kid henote speech at the upcoming Conscious Capitalism conference that

694
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: he was hosting in Austin, Texas. It's like this is

695
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: his whole life. It's just like on private spirational team

696
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: meetups in Britil, teammates been taking private planes and making

697
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: organizational charts and handing them to other CEOs on the

698
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: way to different teahouses and like Boisy Sun Valley, Austin,

699
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: and he's already like so meditated and mountain biked and

700
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: it's like seven am and he's done like eight different

701
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: crossfits and his biceps are bulging through the heather. Teen

702
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know what your schedule is looking

703
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: like this spring summer, but if you could come to

704
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: the Conscious Capitalism Conference, I would really appreciate it. Okay. Also,

705
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: when he reveals his nickname is Moose Moose, which, as

706
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: you know from Rosa Blasi her x means means big

707
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: d And I do think that Monty Moran has he's

708
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: so nice big dad Dick. I think it's seven and thick.

709
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: I agree, maybe even eight. I mean the confidence he

710
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: exudes in this book the entire time. He's always just

711
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: like I had so much fun as a personal injury

712
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: trier lawyer, Like, yeah, you're like a lot of fun,

713
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: like firing people who are underperformers and just like promoting

714
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: from within, Like it's just kind of like, okay, you

715
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: just enjoy everything. Yeah, wonder Also, I feel like, because

716
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: that's what it's like when you're in back throughout this,

717
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: I was like, are you ever seeing your family? But

718
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, you seem like such a Yeah, this book

719
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: isn't about the family. It's not about the family. But

720
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I was like, it feels he feels very like straight

721
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: CEO marriage in this way where he's like sex is

722
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: part of health. Oh, like he's very health class about Yeah,

723
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 1: sex amout of health. So it's important to have sex

724
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: twice a day with your partner, with your wife. I

725
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: don't think they're having sex twice a day, but I

726
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: do think they're having it four to five times a week. Yeah, okay,

727
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: true at this point, four to five times a week.

728
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's at seven am, and sometimes it's at ninety

729
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: five pm, like while they're both watching Original Meadow. Yeah,

730
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: I will say it's rarely at three pm. Know, he's

731
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: at a conference, at a conference, on a teahouse, on

732
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: a plane, ce Hay club kids. This Friday, Cash Who's

733
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: in the VIP lounge legendary designer Mike Eckhouse of Ecous

734
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: lauda fashion brand and Truly Lifestyle. We'll be talking about

735
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: all things New York Fashion Week, drug, sex, alcohol, homosexuality,

736
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: chance wide pants to follow, subscribe at Patreona Comsa, CBC

737
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: the pod to hear the episode segment clock What does

738
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: she eat? What does she wear? How does she love?

739
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: What does he eat? Not tropolo? Sometimes? Well I think

740
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: this is his tropos. This is the chicken definitely like

741
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: the new poll de Dobo chicken whatever they're trying out. Yep,

742
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: brown rice, black beans. You don't think he's doing half

743
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: You don't think he's doing half veggies half chicken. Oh yes,

744
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: black beans, black beans, definitely black beans. And there is pico,

745
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: no glow, no cheese, no, no sour cream. We don't

746
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: even need to say yeah no. I mean he's so

747
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: bites and rap. It's like he is so just like

748
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: high protein. And that's why I think he thrives because

749
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: you can do this half chicken half exactly. No, you

750
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: can be as naughty as you want. But I think

751
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: though is even if you're being like not naughty, it's

752
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: still like a twelve hundred calorie bowl. Yes, I'm always

753
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: violently full. Another thing about him, though, he's not vegan, right,

754
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean he's being just like yeah, crusted salmon, like

755
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: lots of juice. I mean it's very just like brimming

756
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: with health vibes. Yes, except when he is talking about

757
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: going to all these like five star, like big executive

758
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: dinners with Steve Bell. At one point he goes, yeah,

759
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: it was so fun, but I was like, can I

760
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: just have one night to be in my hotel room

761
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: and need a hot dog? Like he is still being

762
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: straight right, and Steve Els has been such a fag

763
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: and just being like we're doing five course on the

764
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: coss with like JP Morgan, I do, and it's much.

765
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: I think he's very tea like. I don't think he

766
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: does coffee, but I do think that when like Steve

767
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Ells is like ordering the third bottle of wine, I

768
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: think Monty is a little bit more like you know what,

769
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: all have like one shot of the most expensive that

770
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: you have that's like really rare and then water, Yes,

771
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: and it's one glass of this reposato. It's like when

772
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: we went to the Saint Regis. When did we go

773
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: to the Saint Regis? Oh? Right after our footage of

774
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: the New York But by the way, have you caught

775
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: your tickets to our live show June twenty fourth at

776
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: Music Hall of Williamsburg. I don't think it's gonna to

777
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: be grass incredible. It's gonna be a New York moment

778
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: to remember. People will be talking about it for it,

779
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: and you can be so repersado all night long, but

780
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: like one repersato because you're just like health have one

781
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: incredible health executive representation. I think it is super health

782
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: executive to love to Kill because it's like less sugar

783
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: than whiskey, but you can still be so like rocks

784
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: Glass with it. Yeah, is it less sugar and whisky,

785
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: and the sugar content of tequila versus whiskey is not

786
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: something that I really there's something about it that is

787
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: just health executive, though, but I I feel like, well,

788
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: there's also something about tequila. It's very like um slutty girl,

789
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: which is always like tequila's actually the drunk as you

790
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: can get per calorie, and they're also like what I

791
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: love about to Kill is not a downer. It actually

792
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: has fifteen percent agua vite and so it actually makes

793
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: you stay up later. I mean, that's what I've always

794
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a lifelong tequila girl. Okay, or's something

795
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: to like old school fats Doc Broker about like having

796
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: a Bourbons He's okay and it isn't him being new

797
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: school Lodo. He's also very heathered as we know. And

798
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: it's just like great jeans, really good ragon bones. Yeah,

799
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: and Rod and Gun. He is going to rot Gun

800
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: and I think he's going into I think he's also

801
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: a little bit just like you open the closet and

802
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: there's like ten of the exact same tea hanging, ten

803
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: of the exact same was going to say, he's getting

804
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: it in olive charcoal, light, ash slate, maroon, burgundy, cabernet, okay.

805
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: And I think he also is maybe another executive is

806
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: telling him about like an eco T shirt brand, and

807
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: he's been like, that's really awesome. I'm excited. What's your

808
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: employees to consider investing? And I will take a small

809
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: plane to Sun Valley to meet the CEO. Even though

810
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: they are headquartered in Milwaukee, which is a fat which

811
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: is a fast growing city in the water district, but

812
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: it's water district. I feel like he is a he's

813
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: kind of actually he's actually more of a swimmer, I think,

814
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: than a mountain biker. He is like highly expensive goggles,

815
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: but also he defines just like mountain biking goad in

816
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: the tight He does everything he does everything he does.

817
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: He's doing a few laps at the like five star

818
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: hotel at Aspen after doing a few runs, Like he's

819
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: getting one of those smiler in the morning. Those bikes

820
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: that have like huge wheels. You don't talking about those

821
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: trail bikes like a mountain bike. Yeah no, but they're

822
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: like there're a special kind of mountain bike that has

823
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: like even huger wheels. Yeah, monster truck of bikes I'm

824
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: talking about it. May just bet your glasses are so

825
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: magnified you think they're really uh, check out your local

826
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: cyclist shop and you may know what I'm talking about. Okay,

827
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: how does he live? It's very like wood So there's

828
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: a tail. He tells about how like this certain type

829
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: of bird was like woodpecker was like pecking away at

830
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: his house and he said he quote unquote would run

831
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: out in his underwear and he yell at the bird,

832
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: and the bird like wouldn't go away, and then his

833
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: and you know he's in these like high tech performance

834
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: John Macden like, Okay, who are you in the book?

835
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: I am? I Steve Owls. I mean I kind of yeah,

836
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: well I'm not doing crosswords, but I am playing property

837
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: brother's mobile game. Yeah, and I feel like if this,

838
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: like straight guy on the PJ was like, here's the

839
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: corporate structure, like you should consider okay, but I would

840
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I love when people do work for me.

841
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: That's true, But it also said that that was one

842
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: moment and the rest of the trip they were having

843
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: so much fun. I do feel like you might after

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Speaker 1: like years in years. What is not mentioned in this book.

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Speaker 1: The rumor was that Steve Ells left because of the

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Speaker 1: equal I break out your pole. Yeah, that's not mentioned

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Speaker 1: at all. The fact that like they were pulling in

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Speaker 1: sixteen million each as co CEOs when there was an

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Speaker 1: equal light out. And he does mention the equal outbreak

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Speaker 1: and he's like, actually, what we did is we tested

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Speaker 1: all the ingredients and tested the pathogens and there was

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Speaker 1: no pathogens, which was actually unsettling. You're like, yeah, same,

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely understand. It's kind of two pages at the

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Speaker 1: end and you're like, huh so all of us over

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00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: here in normal Land thought, yes, Steve Ells wanted to

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Speaker 1: move to the West Village. But also I feel like

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Speaker 1: he was like and I'm tapping out. They don't really

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Speaker 1: need this. Um, I don't know it's like, yes, obviously

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Speaker 1: you're partially Steve Ells, but you're not completely. I think also,

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Speaker 1: like you're like Lisa at the Vegas conference, like giving

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00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: this amazing speech and then mom he's like, hey, actually, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: can I don't do you? Yeah, you really inspired me.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I don't know if you remember this

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Speaker 1: moment when he goes to like this law firm that

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Speaker 1: he's being corded out, and the head of the law

866
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Speaker 1: firm like greets him at the elevator and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm Ted, thank you so much for coming to the

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Speaker 1: Christmas party. And he's like so shocked that like big

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Speaker 1: dog Ted like remembered him. Yeah, you love to greet.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm greeting, I'm knowing names, I'm making sure

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Speaker 1: you feel warm at the Christmas party. I know that

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Speaker 1: I want you there because Lodo cann't seem hostile at first.

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00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely welcome. Um, listen, I give this book. I give

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Speaker 1: this book. Okay, yeah, there were I guess I was like,

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Speaker 1: I get the main point of Chipotle, which is basically

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00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: like higher from within. Yeah, and I felt we spent

877
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Speaker 1: a lot of time on that. I know that this

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00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: book was a little fan. I mean, it wasn't thin.

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00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: It's actually like it's it's long enough. But just like

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00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: there wasn't really that much even about like other stuff

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00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: about Chipotle, like like store, like interior, store design, like

882
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: international expansion, Like I didn't get enough of that right

883
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: because we're like, oh London store. Sure. And the best

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00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: parts were like talking about like when he did become

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Speaker 1: CEO and like the going public and then like ones

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00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: he told one story about this one Chipotle and Florida

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Speaker 1: being messy and how there was like sour cream like

888
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: on top of the walk in and he very like

889
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: aggressively started cleaning it himself because like the team couldn't,

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00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: which actually I find really antithetical to what he was

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00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: saying before because he just decided, oh, these were all

892
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: low performers. Wow. But was he wrong if the sour

893
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: came on top of the fridge, Like clearly no one

894
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: is cleaning it. But isn't he like you need to

895
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: talk to someone and like point out what they're doing wrong? Okay,

896
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: but that's like so egregious, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That is unfunivable, deceptible. I would love to see him.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he would be so kitchen nightmares are

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00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: going to like literally any restaurant in New York City

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Speaker 1: and just like seeing, Yeah, I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm like two because there are some points where you're like, oh,

902
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: you do have good business ideas, but like, I don't

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00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: know you need now that I'm giving this book one

904
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: like one cup of salsa out of five. There's also

905
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: nothing about his personal life, and he talks about being

906
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: vulnerable and yet he and he isn't. I'm like, who

907
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, it's he has been so close up

908
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: now I thank you. That's a really good point where

909
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: ultimately I think this book is a living document of

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: hypocrisy and fakeness. And he tells one story about like

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00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: missus Meriweather telling him to stop being a class clown

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Speaker 1: and you're like more please. Yeah, It's like it's like

913
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: it's obviously like the most like Humble Bragg memoir thing

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Speaker 1: where I would make jokes and everyone laugh. But ultimately

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00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: I buckled down and got serious and became a personal

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Speaker 1: injury broad lawyer. Okay, I guess what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: I'm pro hiring from within. But this book gets point

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Speaker 1: five tiny guawk cups on the side. Yeah out of five,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, thanks so much, Thanks so much. Would

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Speaker 1: you mind joining me for a macho tomorrow at seven am?

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Speaker 1: I will and would you mind joining me for martinis

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