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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Good morning everybody here as we get you all set

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Speaker 3: for college hoops the NBA. We got all kinds of

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Speaker 3: NFL news to react to, but you know what, we

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Speaker 3: start with history. Okay, history matters. We saw history never

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Speaker 3: been done before in the history.

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Speaker 4: Of the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Last night, Nicola Yokish, the first ever thirty twenty game,

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Speaker 3: had thirty one points, twenty two assists in twenty one

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Speaker 3: rebounds as the Nuggets beat the Suns in overtime. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: What Joker was able to do is crazy. He had

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Speaker 3: a triple double early in the third quarter and then

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Speaker 3: had another triple double. He had two triple doubles of

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Speaker 3: the same game and records the first ever thirty.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty game.

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Speaker 3: When you can say this has never been done in

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Speaker 3: the history of whatever league. Think about the NBA with

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Speaker 3: Wilton Kareem and and never been done before. Joker has

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Speaker 3: done it. And bigger picture, Nikola Jokic is the MVP

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Speaker 3: this season. He's not gonna win it, but he's averaging

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Speaker 3: a triple double. I don't know if people realize that

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Speaker 3: he's averaging a triple double this season. He's had this

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Speaker 3: has never been done before either. He's top three in points, rebounds,

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Speaker 3: and assists. He's number three in points and rebounds, He's

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Speaker 3: number two in assists as a big guy. SGA has

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Speaker 3: been phenomenal. Shay Gilgess Alexander will win MVP. He's been

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Speaker 3: a scoring machine. Okay, see the second best record in

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Speaker 3: the entire league. But Nicola Jokic, he has the all

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Speaker 3: around game. This is the best statistical season of his career.

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Speaker 3: He's a three time MVP. This is the best season

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Speaker 3: he's had. So this is voter fatigue defined. He should

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Speaker 3: win it. He's not going to. Jokic is the true

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, and you know what, I have

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Speaker 4: a question.

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Speaker 5: Do you believe a big man could have a thirty

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty triple double, say in the nineties, like is is.

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Speaker 4: Today's game.

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Speaker 5: The suitable environment that Jokic needed to in order to

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Speaker 5: have this kind of successful night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I think so. The game is

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Speaker 3: a lot different now than it was. Also, the Suns

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Speaker 3: defense couldn't guard you, Me and Jared, you know, like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's also true, or Jackpot or anyone else.

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Speaker 4: Really that's right.

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Speaker 3: Well, have Jackpott and Brianna that's our starting five, you know, great,

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Speaker 3: we'll score in the one twenties easily on the Sun's defense.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right, Rich, Like, the style of basketball

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Speaker 3: has a lot to do with it. But think how

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Speaker 3: many great players are playing here and now, and nobody

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Speaker 2: So it's still incredibly special what Joker did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it really is. MVP odds did move last night too.

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Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure that it's a slam dunk,

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Speaker 6: that it's SGA. I'm like, like, the odds are telling

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Speaker 6: us it's like seventy percent. So maybe maybe let's leave

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Speaker 6: it at this. If Jokic has another thirty twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: you know that that could tilt the odds because the

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Speaker 6: way I always view voter fatigue when I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: handicap these award markets, we're obviously removing our opinion, and

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Speaker 6: our opinion is Nicole is the MVP. Well, what are

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Speaker 6: the voters think? The voters have told us multiple times,

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Speaker 6: there's straw polls. Tim bon Temps of ESPN does this.

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Speaker 6: He'll pull the voters and he'll put out the results

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Speaker 6: the voters are telling us as that sga Well.

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Speaker 4: Voter fatigue.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you have to do something that you've never done

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Speaker 6: before to raise the bar. Well, we just saw it

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Speaker 6: last night, and maybe he has another Like maybe he

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Speaker 6: He's like, O, hold do my Jokic choice? Hold on,

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Speaker 6: maybe there's some room here for me to get MVP.

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Speaker 6: That was a terrible yogic impression, But you guys, it.

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Speaker 5: Was more boris bad enough, But that's it was like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: It's funny too because Joker doesn't care about any of

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Speaker 2: You know, they interviewed him.

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Speaker 3: He was on with SVP on Sports Center after the

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Speaker 2: What do you have to say? How do you frame this?

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Speaker 3: And he's like, we we didn't play good against Sacramento

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Speaker 4: That's a better You'll get your pression right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But he doesn't care. He couldn't care less about

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Speaker 2: He just wants to win. That's it.

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Speaker 3: He just wants to win, which I can completely appreciate.

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Speaker 2: But I listen this. We went through this in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson had a better statistical season and you can't

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Speaker 3: tell me for a second. Josh Allen had a great

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Speaker 3: and they had a better record. All of that matters,

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Speaker 3: But you can't tell me for a second if Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson hadn't won an MVP before this last season, that

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Speaker 4: Both are close to It was close.

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Speaker 2: It was close, but same thing.

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Speaker 3: Here are you telling me if SGA is the three

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Speaker 3: time MVP and Jokic hasn't won MVP before that SGA

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Speaker 3: is winning another MVP there's no way. So that factors

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Speaker 3: in and it sucks, but you know the way it goes, man,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna go that way again. SGA will win this thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When subjectivity is tied to an award all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: It's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: You know, you turn on the Academy Awards, everybody says, oh,

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Speaker 5: it's political, you know, it's this, it's that.

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, right, of course it is.

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Speaker 5: Because when you have a criteria that is left up

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Speaker 5: That's the reason why I think that a lot of

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Speaker 4: It's not as meaningful as it used to.

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Speaker 5: Be, you know, And I feel that's where we're heading

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Speaker 5: with all of these leagues MVP awards. It's not who's

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Speaker 5: It is a spinning wheel. Yeah, probably one of the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's the end of the regular season too,

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Speaker 6: so you know what, I'm assuming that there's going to

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Speaker 6: be a lot of different opinions once we get to

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Speaker 4: Last year, Jokic.

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Speaker 6: Dominated the competition and SGA did get a lot of

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Speaker 6: the ballot now from last year, yollkicch had seventy nine

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Speaker 6: SGA was from completely off the like, you know, coming

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Speaker 6: And now SGA and really the Thunder season has been

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Speaker 6: gonna win it. But maybe Jokic has a really good

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Speaker 6: playing field a little bit. But I think right now

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Speaker 6: SGA still gets it, even though I agree Jokic is

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Speaker 6: probably the better overall player top to bottom for what

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you real fast before we get to

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Speaker 3: the NFL news, that was like WHOA where did that

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Speaker 3: voters would look at a season in a vacuum, because

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Speaker 3: that's the way it should be. It shouldn't be hey,

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Speaker 3: the previous season or previous seasons or history. And well,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jordan deserved to win MVP certain years and

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Speaker 3: historical significance of if he won his fourth MVP, voters

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Speaker 2: Think of it like that.

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Speaker 3: It's so broken to think of it like that, where

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Speaker 3: it should just be this season and this season alone

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Speaker 3: in a vacuum. Oh Tani, I don't care if he

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Speaker 3: wins the next nine nlmvps. If he deserves it, then

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Speaker 3: you're doing doing a disservice with your vote if you

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Speaker 3: nobody else has done that, and uh, you know we

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Speaker 3: we had other MVPs that should have been named that weren't.

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Speaker 3: That's the wrong way to think about it. So I

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Speaker 3: wish voters would just look at this season and this

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Speaker 3: and his production on whatever team, is that a bigger

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Speaker 3: impact than putting SGA and his brilliant scoring, his tremendous defense,

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Speaker 3: and put that on a random team, which is more

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Speaker 3: valuable for the league. That's your job to vote on it,

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Speaker 3: beyond just this season. Now with that, we turn the

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Speaker 3: page to the NFL. The Raiders have a new quarterback

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Speaker 3: and his name is Geno Smith.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Ever think that have this reaction where you're like, man,

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Speaker 3: Ever have that where you're like, I wish I saw

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby, who's a tremendous defense event. He tweeted out

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Speaker 3: like ten exclamation points and skull and crossbone emojis, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, it just shows how awful life has

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Speaker 3: been as a Raider. I mean, you're this fired up

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Speaker 3: but you're this fired up for Cheeto Smith. You know,

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Speaker 3: you're still in the same division as Mahomes and Herbert

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Speaker 3: Division, right, Like, and we're like, let's go it. We're

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Speaker 3: not doing anything, sorry, Raiders, Like, like, girlfriend's over here,

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Speaker 3: Like that's where you're at right now. I wish this

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Speaker 4: It's it's I would say this. I think it's an upgrade.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's I don't think it's a monumental

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Speaker 5: And I do also think that you could still do

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Speaker 5: drafting a high level quarterback this year and upgrade your

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald was Gino Smith. Gino Smith I think was

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Speaker 5: you know is earning it on another prove it year

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Speaker 5: situation also, depending on who they draft. Imagine the lessons

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Speaker 4: Now. So going back to what he said.

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Speaker 5: Brian, I don't think this is an earth shaking acquisition

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Speaker 5: teach a young quarterback who they may still be drafting

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Speaker 6: I'll go on the record right now, I'm actually a

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Speaker 6: And Chip Kelly is the reason why I think Chip

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Speaker 6: Kelly and Gino Smith are a really good match. I

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Speaker 6: quick passing game. You know, play action accuracy. Gino Smith,

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Speaker 6: over the last four years one of the best quarterback

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Speaker 6: But I think when Gino's upright, he's a good option.

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Speaker 6: And that's the key for me, Is and I agree

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Speaker 6: And that's why I'm interested in maybe a Raiders win

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Speaker 6: They're not gonna go ask Geno Smith to go out

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Speaker 6: last three year has been a disaster, absolute disaster. Since

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Speaker 6: something that at least is a positive. Are the Raiders

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Speaker 6: we have to keep it in relative terms to where

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Speaker 3: Okay, coming up, I want to give you some positivity

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to do both those things.

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Speaker 4: You're good at those things. You're good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: And so much more. See I. I argue this would

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Speaker 2: be a great karaoke duet.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: You just go up there as a team and say,

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Speaker 2: Go in the bat oh smash hit right the bars.

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Speaker 6: Karaoke night, karaoke night for the crew.

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Speaker 3: We gotta make that happen, Jared, You and I we

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah Friday, so we gotta get yeah. I like

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Speaker 3: that idea. We'll durgo it. Really something, you know, gotta

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Speaker 6: On there that's on your high end of idea scale

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Speaker 6: right there.

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Speaker 3: There, Thursday or Friday, something's going down. That's all I

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Speaker 3: go down.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So as far as let's go all the way.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers, ooh, the Lakers they are playing some basketball

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Speaker 2: Do you give them a chance to win it all?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: This is a nice little two week stretch. They're playing

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's the list. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get tripped up, probably in the West. I'd

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Speaker 3: impressed if they did that. I just don't see them

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Speaker 2: Guy, look at who you're yo.

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Speaker 3: Get's just had a thirty twenty and twenty game last night.

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Speaker 3: If you're going up against the Nuggets yet, good luck.

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Speaker 3: They've lost eight of the last nine against the Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: With Anthony Davis. It's like a fantastic big guy. I

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Speaker 3: But you gotta have a front court in the West,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I even you know, you go back to the

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Speaker 4: And maybe this is a part of the plan.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Lebron's worried about confronting Steven A. Smith at halftime

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Speaker 6: pretty good this year. Like it's in a one eleven

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Speaker 6: per game, like, I mean, that's other than the Thunder

437
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Speaker 6: which are having like a historic season. The Lakers have

438
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Speaker 6: one of the best defenses in the Western Conference, at

439
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Speaker 6: least on paper. I agree with your take. I think

440
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Speaker 6: if it was like a one game roll of the

441
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Speaker 6: Dice Lakers Nuggets West semi final game seven, I think

442
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Speaker 6: I would take Luca and Lebron seven game series. Nuggets

443
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 6: get home court at altitude over the long haul, four

444
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Speaker 6: out of seven I think I would take Denver, right Like,

445
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Speaker 6: I think that's kind of how I frame it, And

446
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 6: it doesn't really help you guys from a betting standpoint

447
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 6: trying to figure out who's gonna win. But it feels

448
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 6: like in a one game scenario, I'd rather take Luca

449
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 6: and Lebron in the long because that's the thing that

450
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 6: the NBA playoffs. People don't realize. It is long. It

451
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 6: is a long second season, and I think over the

452
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 6: long haul, the Lakers might struggle because of that depth.

453
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Speaker 3: Well, a great matchup tonight, the Celtics hosting the Lakers.

454
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: That is awesome stuff right there. Boston favored by seven

455
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Speaker 3: and a half. And that's the thing that's a small

456
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Speaker 3: little glimpse. I mean, that's the defending champs. Boston Real

457
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: front court, you know, like I know Perzingis is, you know,

458
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: a euro front court guy.

459
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: He's more of a perimeter guy, but he can bang.

460
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: He's a great rim protector, and he's better than what

461
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: the Lakers have in the front court, that's for sure. Also,

462
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: old man Al Horford still doing his thing. I love

463
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: Al Horford. The guy is ageless. But if you look

464
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: at the path in the West for the Lakers, and

465
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 3: you're looking at again matching up front court to front court.

466
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: If you're going against Jokich, you're gonna get smashed. If

467
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: you're going up against say the Grizzlies with Jaren Jackson Junior,

468
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: he's gonna eat Who do you have with Zach Eady?

469
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: Like this, this is a problem. And I love Lebron

470
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: and Luca, don't get me wrong. That's a lot of firepower.

471
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: But you can't be this week in the front court

472
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Speaker 3: if you're matched up against OKC, who plays better defense,

473
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Speaker 3: Like look at the front court there. Chet Holmgren is

474
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: a little bit more like porzingis, but Hartenstein is gonna

475
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 3: eat you alive on the glass. Like you have to

476
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: have more than what the Lakers do. And everybody seems

477
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: to be all giddy about a two week stretch when

478
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: they're beating teams, or they lost to the Hornets, they

479
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: beat the Jazz a couple of times. It's like you

480
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: realize the quality in the West that you're gonna see.

481
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Speaker 3: I just I am not high on the Lakers. It's

482
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Speaker 3: not the hate on them. It's I'm hating on their

483
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: lack of a front court. Not that it says Lakers

484
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Speaker 3: on the front of their jersey.

485
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Speaker 5: No, it forces you in to defensive strategies when when

486
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: you have a team that can highlight an offensive big

487
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 5: man or or even you can't drive the lane because

488
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 5: you don't have the size or set up offense in

489
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Speaker 5: the paint because you don't have a big man who

490
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 5: can contend with some of the other guys that you

491
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Speaker 5: mentioned around the league and around the West specifically.

492
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Speaker 4: But what you can.

493
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Speaker 5: Do, and they're going to have to adjust and get

494
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 5: really good at this, is you can play a lot

495
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Speaker 5: of zone where you have a lot of help in

496
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Speaker 5: the paint. You're gonna have to throw a lot of

497
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Speaker 5: fresh bodies at the problems you have in the paint

498
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 5: and just hope that either your perimeter defenders can get

499
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Speaker 5: out to the wings and get out to three point

500
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Speaker 5: line to defend to defend fast enough with a good

501
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 5: ball movement team, because that's that's your only shot. You know,

502
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 5: you're gonna have a couple of your depth players in

503
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 5: foul trouble because you're going they're gonna be tesked every

504
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 5: time that big guy gets the.

505
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Speaker 4: Ball in his hand. You're going to foul them.

506
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: We're gonna send them to the line and we're gonna

507
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: take our chances there, and anytime they're moving the ball,

508
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 5: maybe we'll loosen the paint up. But then that exposes

509
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: you if they get good at it. Though, if they,

510
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 5: you know, down the stretch of the season they work

511
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Speaker 5: this out, I mean, I'm not gonna give them no chance.

512
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: But like I said at the start, Brian, I think

513
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: I agree with you more than I don't. I think

514
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 5: the Luca trade was the start of a two year

515
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: plan for Lebron to win his his fifth title and

516
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: to get closer to MJ.

517
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Speaker 6: How funny is it that Boston's odds on to win

518
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 6: the East minus won twenty five, even though they're clearly

519
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 6: clearly the number two team in the East. Yeah, and

520
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 6: Cleveland just doesn't get the respect. I think that's the

521
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 6: more interesting question. Like we know, I feel pretty confident

522
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 6: you're gonna have Lakers Nuggets in that second round, and

523
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 6: you would think it's gonna be a pretty good series.

524
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 6: I do not know what the Boston Cleveland vibe is

525
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 6: gonna be, assuming we do get that in the Eastern

526
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 6: Conference Final. I think we will. And I love my knicks.

527
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 6: I love my Knickerbuckers. But Jalen Brunson's injury and just

528
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 6: the way that Tibbs runs these teams to the ground

529
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 6: during the regular season. It's not the Bucks here right like,

530
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 6: It's just it's just not And Giannis is fantastic, but

531
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 6: it's just the Eastern Conference feels like very much a

532
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 6: two team race, whereas the West it feels like there's

533
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: a third horse in there. I don't know who that.

534
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 6: I don't know which of the Lakers, Nuggets, you know,

535
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 6: teams I would pick right now. I think depending on

536
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 6: the price in the series, I would take Denver, especially

537
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 6: if they have home court. But Cleveland Boston, like the

538
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 6: market is begging you to take the Calves, like they

539
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 6: are begging you to bet the Calves plus two ten

540
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 6: to win the East. They're gonna have home court in

541
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: that series. I don't know.

542
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 4: I don't really vibe it.

543
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: What do you think about the Cavs, guys, Well, Calves

544
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: are really good, but they're they're a team where they're

545
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: gonna have to prove it to you to truly buy in.

546
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: You know, it's just their their history is what it is.

547
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: They've had a fantastic regular season, don't get me wrong.

548
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: Are they capable of beating Boston.

549
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they are. Are you gonna run to

550
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: the betting window and say, give me the Calves over Boston.

551
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: Probably not. So it's one of those teams where they

552
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: have to prove it to you. It's sort of like

553
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: your deadbeat father, you know, and you're like, I really

554
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna take me to the mall today,

555
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: you know, And he has to pick you up and

556
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: take you to the mall today for you to believe

557
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 3: like he's gonna show up and do that. That's how

558
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: I feel about Cleveland, right because they just they've come

559
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: they've come up short time and time again. By the way,

560
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: I know someone who's fond of Cleveland. That would be

561
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley. She had an epic rant for the Ages

562
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: on Thursday. Did you catch this? He's talking about ESPN

563
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: talking about the Warriors and the Lakers every day and

564
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: overlooking OKAC and the Calves.

565
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 2: Here's a little taste of that.

566
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 6: The Lakers are doing Greek, the Wars are doing Greek.

567
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 7: But Oklahoma City and the Calves been bawling for six months,

568
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 7: y'all talking about Teaser had two great weeks.

569
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: It's true, it is true, but Listen, we understand that

570
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: the interest for the Calves and Okac isn't the same

571
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: as the Lakers and the Warriors. So there's a reason

572
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: why first take is successful and all that. But it

573
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: was a great rant by Barclay and call it out

574
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: as future teammates at ESPN.

575
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: Right, I love that man, real fast.

576
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: I'll put a boat and then I'll give you something

577
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: positive and a dose of reality. This is why the

578
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: Lakers are so fascinating because they have real strength. They've

579
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: got a real ceiling with Lebron and Luca, and they

580
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 3: have a real floor which is no front court of note.

581
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Speaker 2: And it's gonna.

582
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Speaker 3: Be really interesting to see what wins out come playoff

583
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: time because they have the potential to have a deep

584
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: run and they have the potential to flame out immediately

585
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be a great ride. Now Here, here's

586
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: the positivity in the dose of reality. So if we

587
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: go back to Geno Smith traded to the Raiders, here's

588
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: the positivity.

589
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Speaker 4: Rich.

590
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: I like what you had to say.

591
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: Okay, oh there you go.

592
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: If the Raiders draft a young guy and they match

593
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Speaker 3: him with Gino, Gino is a much better mentor than

594
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: I would say Aaron Rodgers would be.

595
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Speaker 2: I don't think Rogers would be like, let me take

596
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Speaker 2: this young buck under my wing here.

597
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: So so yeah, we don't know if the Raiders are

598
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: going to double dip in the quarterback market, and if

599
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: they do that, that looks a lot different if you've

600
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: got say Geno and shaduor Sanders.

601
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: So that part makes sense.

602
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: Also, the Raiders schedule, so they played the AFC South

603
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: and then also the NFC East. So listen real fast

604
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Speaker 3: to this home schedule for the Raiders. They play their

605
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Speaker 3: three teams in the division. Then they host Jacksonville, Tennessee

606
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, Giants, Bears, and Browns.

607
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Speaker 2: It's pretty doable, right, pretty doable.

608
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: Right, we got now here we go.

609
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Speaker 3: Okay, the dose of reality here, here's the dose of reality.

610
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: This is some MLS stuff. Okay, this is like Major

611
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: League Soccer. You know, MLS has done this for years

612
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: where it's like, hey, our ratings are up ten percent

613
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: compared to our previous sucky ratings.

614
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

615
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, if you compare yourself to yourself, that's

616
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: one thing. If you compare yourself to the competition that's another.

617
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: So if you compare the Raiders now to the Raiders

618
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: last season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they're better.

620
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Speaker 3: But if you compare the Raiders now to the rest

621
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Speaker 3: of the AFC West and the rest of the AFC,

622
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Speaker 3: they aren't.

623
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Speaker 2: Going anywhere at all.

624
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: So that's the difference is, Yeah, they're better, but they're

625
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: not going anywhere.

626
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: They're not good enough to go anywhere.

627
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Speaker 5: I always have a hard time writing off a team

628
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 5: before I get to see them. Who's made some staggering changes,

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Speaker 5: And I feel like in the case of the Las

630
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders, it has been a lot of the same

631
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Speaker 5: you know, lobs over the plate year after year after year.

632
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: You know, the Derek Carr experience. It never panned out

633
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 5: and and it very much so kind of hit the

634
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 5: same somber note every season. What they've moved on to

635
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 5: since then has been a just a clown car.

636
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: You know.

637
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: There's so many quarterbacks, none of them really particularly entertaining

638
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: or exciting. And now this Gino Smith is a real

639
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 5: starter in the NFL. Is he a top tier starter? No?

640
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: Has he dabbled with that? Yeah?

641
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: Do I think that him? With Chip Kelly and with

642
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: a head coach who has experience and ability like Pete

643
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Speaker 5: Carroll does.

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Speaker 4: That interest me.

645
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's more than I can say about the

646
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 5: Raiders for a long long time. And again to the

647
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: point I made earlier, if you draft a quarterback and

648
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Speaker 5: Gino Smith is the voice in his ear helping him

649
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: bridge the gap from college to the NFL game, he's

650
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Speaker 5: more than more than capable of helping guide the ship because,

651
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 5: by the way, that's what he was used for time

652
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: and time and time again until he became a starter

653
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 5: again in this league. So he knows the ropes, he

654
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Speaker 5: knows how to do that, and they'll do a good

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Speaker 5: job for you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think Gino's gonna get a new deal.

657
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Speaker 6: I think that's kind of where the reason why the

658
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Speaker 6: trade occurred in the first place is because the Seahawks

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Speaker 6: didn't want to give Gino a new deal and the

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Speaker 6: Raiders were willing. And I think that's why the compensation

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Speaker 6: was relatively cheap, Like getting a starting quarterback who I

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Speaker 6: would say is an average starting quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 6: Say which you want about I think Geno Smith is

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Speaker 6: an average starting quarterback in the league. He's definitely not

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Speaker 6: below average. He's definitely better than what the Raiders have

666
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Speaker 6: had for a third round pick. I think that's a

667
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Speaker 6: pretty good deal if the Raiders do end up getting

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Speaker 6: some production out of him. That's why I don't think

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Speaker 6: the Raiders will draft a quarterback in the first round

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Speaker 6: because they're gonna probably have to give Gino thirty five

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Speaker 6: to forty million dollars, and I don't think they want

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Speaker 6: to have a quarterback who's obviously the starter having And

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Speaker 6: at six you might get Shador. You might not, but

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Speaker 6: you might get Shittar. You might also want to get

675
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Speaker 6: Jackson Dart later on in the draft too. That could

676
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Speaker 6: be another option, or Quinn Viewers or another one of

677
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Speaker 6: these guys, maybe a Will Howard another maybe a project

678
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Speaker 6: later in the draft. I think makes sense. But I

679
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Speaker 6: don't think the Raiders are going to go quarterback at six.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you who I would take at six right now.

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Speaker 4: If you want to really.

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Speaker 6: Give Gino the best chance to have a good year one,

683
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Speaker 6: you take Ashton Genty at six, and you say, okay, Gino,

684
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Speaker 6: you got your stud tight end, you got your stud

685
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Speaker 6: running back. They have no receivers. They need to go

686
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Speaker 6: get a receiver. But at least at least he has

687
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Speaker 6: a semblance. Because I'm looking at the Raiders skill position

688
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 6: group right now, and it ain't pretty. I could barely

689
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Speaker 6: name two of these guys like it's a joke, Like

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Speaker 6: you gotta get Gino.

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Speaker 2: Some help or else.

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Speaker 6: You just traded a third round pick and probably a

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Speaker 6: forty million dollar extension for what. So I think that's

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Speaker 6: the key right now for the Raiders. How can you

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Speaker 6: get Gino help and how can you make that transition easy?

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Speaker 3: Hey super fast? Does this fire you up? She's honest question.

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00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: A quarterback who throws twenty one touchdown passes and fifteen

698
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Speaker 3: interceptions in a season, does that fire you up?

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Speaker 4: That's what Gino did last year.

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Speaker 3: That's what Gino did, like with DK Metcalf, Jackson Smith

701
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Speaker 3: and Jigba and Tyler for a big.

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Speaker 6: Part of the end of the year. He had a

703
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Speaker 6: bad injury. So I think, yeah, I think it doesn't

704
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Speaker 6: fire me up, but obviously you have to keep it

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Speaker 6: in perspective.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Again, the perspective that Jared's keeping is the right perspective.

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Speaker 4: This is the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: If this were the Kansas City Chiefs, I would be like,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, what are they doing again?

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Speaker 3: This goes back to my original point. This shows how

712
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Speaker 3: sucky life has been for the Raiders. Very true, fire

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Speaker 3: up for Chino real fast. Our guy Chris Purfett has

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Speaker 3: something real quick here.

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Speaker 4: I think we're.

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Speaker 8: Doubting the ability of the plan of Gino Smith to

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Speaker 8: dump off two hundred times to brock Bowers.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 6: Brock Bowers just got in a big upgrade.

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Speaker 2: To another two hundred dump to brock Bowers.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have a hundred hours catches next year, fifteen

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Speaker 3: catches for seventy two yards.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've already bet the brock Bauers receptions over.

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Speaker 8: Problem Mind Daily Fantasy and Fantasy League Darling for this

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Speaker 4: They bet right to that.

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Speaker 3: All right, High stakes and the platter today. Let me

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Speaker 3: explain something really quickly here for Jared Smith. So our

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Speaker 3: trusted producer Bo Benson is not with us today. He's

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Speaker 3: radio producer, Ryan Bershinger.

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Speaker 2: Even Normaga Madoff says Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 3: McGregor, try first first is getting married, baby, So Bo

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Speaker 3: is out there to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: He's in a betting state.

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Speaker 3: He's away from outdated California, who is not embracing sports betting.

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Speaker 3: He can get after it today with the marlay platter

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Speaker 3: in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: So you're at pressures on, that's right, Jared.

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Speaker 3: The advice you give out is gonna have financial consequences.

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Speaker 2: So what do you have cooked up for us today?

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Speaker 6: Well, my first message is to bersh there's still time

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Speaker 6: to back out, Bud. You know you don't have to

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Speaker 6: go through it. I'm just kidding, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: We actually we're hot right now. We hit last week,

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Speaker 6: We've hit two out of the last three parlay plotters,

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Speaker 6: and if you've been with us.

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Speaker 4: The last three years, that's a heater. Baby.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with a very good game between Missouri and

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Speaker 6: Kentucky and the SEC I'm gonna put Missouri on the

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Speaker 6: money line. Missoo's off back to back losses, bad losses

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Speaker 6: at Ban Diyadou, but they're eighteen and one at home

786
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Speaker 6: this year. Two very good offensive teams. We know Kentucky

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Speaker 6: can shoot it, we know Missouri can shoot it. But

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Speaker 6: here's the difference. Kentucky on the road is turnover happy

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Speaker 6: and they're just three and six away from Lexington this year.

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Speaker 6: Missoo's about a five and a half point favorite. Today

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Speaker 6: at home will put the Tigers' first leg in the

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Speaker 6: money line. Parlay, Let's go on the road to the

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Speaker 6: Little Apple in Manhattan, Kansas. We're put in Iowa State

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Speaker 6: on the money line. Parlay cyclones at k State today.

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Speaker 6: Iowa stateed off a bad loss at home to BYU.

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Speaker 6: They are finally back at full strength. They've got their

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Speaker 6: starting five, but they haven't played a lot of basketball

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Speaker 6: together this year due to the injuries, so they need

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Speaker 6: something to feel good about themselves heading into the postseason

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Speaker 6: road revenge spot case State won by nineteen and ams

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Speaker 6: five weeks ago. I think Iowa State gets to win today.

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Speaker 6: Kansas on the money line. They are hosting Arizona today.

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Speaker 6: You're betting on Kansas, Terrett, what the heck are you doing?

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Speaker 6: There's blood in the streets of Lawrence. Bill self's putting

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Speaker 6: out these statements. The Jayhawks. They battle against Houston, lost

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Speaker 6: by sick covered the number. They're three to one against

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Speaker 6: the spread in the last four games. Arizona is a

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Speaker 6: fade on the road, very subpar shooting team. They rely

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Speaker 6: way too much on Kleb Love. Kansas goes on the

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Speaker 6: money line against Arizona. Miszoo Iowa stake Kansas all on

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Speaker 6: the money line plus two twelve at bet MGM. What

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Speaker 6: do we think, guys?

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Speaker 4: I really do. I like the Missouri pick.

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Speaker 5: I like Kansas that that stat about Arizona a little

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Speaker 5: wonky on the road is good too.

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Speaker 4: I think woo, I think you set up report.

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Speaker 2: I hope that it. I hope he hits.

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Speaker 3: I hope the parlay hits and Bo wins cash and

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Speaker 3: everything's great. You know, fingers crossed coming up next? The

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Speaker 3: last meeting was bad? Will it be more of the

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Speaker 3: same today?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Hope your Saturday is off to a fantastic start. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what. It can only get better from here

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Speaker 3: because we've got Alabama against Auburn today. Another matchup did

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Speaker 3: not go well for role Tide last time at home

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Speaker 3: against Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Now they're on the road.

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Speaker 3: That was the game where Auburn was what five for

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Speaker 3: twenty six from three point range. Yeah, and it did

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Speaker 3: not go well. But that's the beauty of the three

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Speaker 3: point line. You know, Bama's cooking a lot more offensively,

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Speaker 3: more efficient from three, which they can be all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, they're a live dog. They're a seven and

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Speaker 3: a half point underdogs on the road here. I think

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Speaker 3: of you now, Jared, when the totals get high like

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Speaker 3: this in college basketball, it's one seventy seven and a half,

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Speaker 3: and I'll literally just be thumbing through all the lines

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Speaker 3: on bet MGM and I'll see one seventy seven and

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Speaker 3: a half and I'll picture you going, whoa, hey, it

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Speaker 3: is that a lot of points I've had there, you have.

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00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot of points in college basketball. But hey man,

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Speaker 3: they are more than capable of going over this total here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they are.

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Speaker 5: Both of these teams offensively, I think have what at

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Speaker 5: s take. I'm curious if we aren't gonna see a

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Speaker 5: little more defense this time around, you know, not just

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Speaker 5: cold shooting, but like actual tough nodes defense, because, as

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Speaker 5: we discussed many times over the past bunch of weekends,

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Speaker 5: since the college basketball season has taken full swing and

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Speaker 5: really stolen the attention of the sports viewing public, defense

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00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: does win you championships. Defense does help you play deep

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Speaker 5: into March. So this is where you start to hone

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Speaker 5: the finer edge in the regular season against teams that

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Speaker 5: you know resemble or actually maybe tournament teams that you

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Speaker 5: will face somewhere down the road.

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Speaker 6: Here, I'm vibeing the upset in this game, guys, I

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Speaker 6: really am wow, really Okay, Yeah, I think BAM is

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Speaker 6: very live here. I mean, obviously they're always live because

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Speaker 6: of the style that they play. I mean, how often

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Speaker 6: is bab A been a eight point dog this year?

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Speaker 6: It hasn't happened like it's happened. And you go back

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Speaker 6: and look at the box score from the first game

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Speaker 6: Bama was in the game, despite the fact that they

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Speaker 6: could not hit a three, like five for twenty six

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Speaker 6: is probably probably one of the worst shooting nights of

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Speaker 6: the year. And you go back and look at what

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Speaker 6: Auburn did in that game. Jani Broom was incredible nineteen,

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Speaker 6: fourteen and six. And also Denver Jones had a huge

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Speaker 6: game sixteen points, three for five from deep. Denver Jones

872
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: is hurt. He's probably not gonna play tonight. Jani Broom

873
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 6: also looks like he's on fumes. It looks like both

874
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 6: shoulders are going through injuries. I think this Auburn team

875
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 6: and this is just what the SEC does. I think

876
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: this Auburn team peaked about two weeks ago, and I

877
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: think over the last two weeks they are just limping

878
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 6: to the finish. And that's not to say they can't

879
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 6: find a second wind. Maybe not next week in Nashville

880
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 6: in the SEC tournament, but you know, the NCAA Tournament,

881
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 6: they can find a second win because they're gonna get a,

882
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 6: you know, an easy matchup in the first round. He

883
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 6: kind of ease into it as the number one seed.

884
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 6: But for today in the Eyebob, the Iron Bowl of Basketball,

885
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 6: I think this is Bama's game. Plus I know it's

886
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 6: I love that term. This feels like a Bama bet

887
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: to me, and I think they'll shoot it better tonight.

888
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 6: And I think Auburn, what do they have to play for.

889
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 6: They've already clinched the number one seed in the SEC tournament.

890
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: They're gonna be the number one overall seed in the

891
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 6: NCAA tournament. They've got like one hundred quad one wins.

892
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 6: Like if you're Auburn and I know it's a rivalry game,

893
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're not going to try to win,

894
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 6: but in the back of their minds, they're like, man,

895
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: we got bigger fish to fry. We've already gone into

896
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 6: tuscaloosen won this year. I think Alabama's very live today.

897
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because last Saturday we're doing the show

898
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: and one of my rapid fire picks was Kentucky plus

899
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: the points plus like four and a half at home,

900
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 3: and they got crushed, like Auburn just ran right over them.

901
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 3: And then a couple of nights later, Tuesday night against

902
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: A and M, Auburn loses by eleven and I'm like, thanks, guys,

903
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: why couldn't you.

904
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: Have lost by eleven? But it was a rapid fire pick.

905
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 6: They looked rough the other night.

906
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, though, Jared is like, like, that's

907
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: life in the SEC. Where it does it's wearing you

908
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: down because it's such a gauntlet, even for a team

909
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: that's as talented as Auburn is when you're facing the

910
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: quality that you're seeing in the SEC this season, game

911
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: after game after game after game.

912
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: It does wear you down.

913
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: You saw a worn down Auburn team on the road

914
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: against A and M.

915
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: And give Texas A and M credit.

916
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: I'm not taking it away from them, but Auburn, as

917
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: good as they are, they've they've been wearing down. So

918
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 3: that's the question I have for some of the top

919
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: teams in the SEC. Do they look like they they're

920
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: in the fifteenth round right come tournament time or do

921
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: they look fresh. There's a lot of time in between

922
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: for them to get their legs underneath them. But I'm

923
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: curious the top teams in the SEC if they look

924
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: fresh or if they look like they've been through a

925
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: gauntlet this season, because they have been through a gauntlet.

926
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, sometimes even if you have a tough conference,

927
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't really translate to what's needed in March. I mean,

928
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 5: how many times have we seen it's like, wow, you

929
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: know how many SEC teams and then by the time

930
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 5: it whittles down to a field of you know, sixteen,

931
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 5: there's one or two left, or you know, I mean

932
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: even some of the mid major conferences like you'll see

933
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 5: this happened all the time out of the Mountain West,

934
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: you know, where all of a sudden they dwindled to

935
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: the point where round of thirty two there isn't a

936
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 5: single team in. It can happen, you know, and it

937
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 5: can be a result of how hard you had a

938
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 5: fight to get into the tournament in the first place.

939
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: Here's what I will say.

940
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: Perimeter shooting can can make you look a lot more fresh.

941
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 5: And we know how it can be a little bit spontaneous,

942
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: it can be a little bit stop and go. But

943
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 5: for teams who are good on the perimeter, like Alabama

944
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: has shown they can be, and good in transition like

945
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 5: Alabama has shown they can be. I don't hate Jared's

946
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: point that this could be, you know, an upset because

947
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: when you look at the paltry outside shooting that the

948
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: Crimson Tie put up last time these two face each other.

949
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 5: Plus the fact that they're better on the offensive boards

950
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: by miles than Auburn is on the defensive glass, I

951
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 5: think second chance points plus you know, kickout passes.

952
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: If they have a hotter night.

953
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 5: Behind the three point line, we could see the Crimson

954
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 5: Tie take this one.

955
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm calling it right now. I'm calling the upset.

956
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: Alabama's winning this game. Here's an interesting history lesson. By

957
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 6: the way, do you remember last year when Auburn won

958
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 6: the SEC Tournament and then lost to Yale in the

959
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: first round of the NCAA Tournament.

960
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

961
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, The SEC Tournament next week is going to be

962
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 6: very interesting. I would be fading those top seeds. Here's

963
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 6: an interesting history lesson. The SEC right now, in terms

964
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 6: of historical database, has the second best margin of victory

965
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 6: of any conference since Ken Palm's been tracking this for

966
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 6: a long time. The nineteen ninety seven AC, the twenty

967
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: twenty four Big Twelve. Last year's Big Twelve were the

968
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 6: next two. Those two conferences combined, by the way, only

969
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 6: had two teams go to the Elite eight.

970
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

971
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 6: So having historically good regular seasons in terms of conference

972
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: play is not necessarily a ticket to the Final four.

973
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 6: That is gonna be an interesting dynamic when we get

974
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 6: to the NAA Tournament. Because everyone is convinced the SEC

975
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 6: is winning it all, I'm not so sure you're gonna

976
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 6: have four, five six teams from the SEC and the

977
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 6: Sweet sixteen. I would not be surprised if it's the

978
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 6: other way where the SEC might be a little bit

979
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 6: overrated headed to the big dance.

980
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: Well, and the other thing is Jared, You've paid close

981
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: attention to the Player of the Year race h heading

982
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: wise in between Cooper Flag and Jani Broom, so much

983
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: is tied to teams success. And if you look at

984
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: say Auburn today, if you like them to potentially lose

985
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: as a seven and a half point favorite at home,

986
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: that has a huge ripple effect in the Player of

987
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: the Year market because it's so close between Broom and Flag.

988
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: They've both been tremendous this season. Where if you look

989
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: at Auburn in their path to winning the SEC to

990
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: win the conference championship, that's a much tougher path than

991
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: what Duke has to win the ACC. So Cooper Flag

992
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: and Duke win the ACC and Jeni Broom and Auburn

993
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: don't win the SEC, it's going to Cooper Flag, you know.

994
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: So I think you have to handicap it based on

995
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: the team's success or lack thereof, not just the player's success. Here,

996
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: I think Flag has a better shot to win it.

997
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's gonna be an interesting finish to the season.

998
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: One of the things that I'm curious and Jared, I

999
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: want to ask you first, but Brian, I want you

1000
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 5: to win as well. Is this going to be a

1001
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 5: chalky bracket this year?

1002
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: Like?

1003
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 5: Are we going to see a lot of the better

1004
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: teams events? Because where we're at and I think we

1005
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 5: touched this with Seamus last week and he'll join us

1006
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 5: in a little bit from bet MGM. But like nil,

1007
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: I mean the fact that transfer portals wide open? Is

1008
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 5: is it in fact the rich getting richer? So as

1009
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 5: like almost a little you know, future look at what

1010
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 5: the bracket may present for us.

1011
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: Should betters really concentrate on.

1012
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: The fact that that's the truth? And it's going to

1013
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: get pretty chalky here for a little bit.

1014
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be fading a lot of the SEC teams

1015
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 6: against the spread in the tournament. I think I think

1016
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 6: I've made that decision.

1017
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 4: Ok.

1018
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 6: I think there's some teams that are on my cell list,

1019
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 6: but I don't necessarily think it's a chalky situation. I

1020
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 6: do think there's like six really good teams in college basketball.

1021
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 6: I think there's two elite team. I think Auburn and

1022
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 6: Duke are elite teams. I would be surprised if both

1023
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 6: of them missed the final four. I think Florida is

1024
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 6: very underrated. I think of the yeah of the number

1025
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 6: one seeds, like I think the number one seeds are

1026
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 6: gonna be Duke, Auburn, Houston, and Florida. Like, I feel

1027
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 6: pretty good about that right now. I think of those

1028
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 6: four number one seeds, Auburn's probably a little bit overrated.

1029
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 6: Florida is probably a little bit underrated. Like, I think

1030
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 6: those teams are a little more equal in the market

1031
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 6: than they're being priced right now. I think Duke's really good.

1032
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 6: To Brian's point about the Player of the Year, I

1033
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 6: would still vote for Jenni Broom today, but the voting

1034
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 6: doesn't take place for another ten days. The voting takes

1035
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 6: place between March seventeenth and March twenty fifth. That's when

1036
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 6: the votes are actually cast. Well, if Duke gets bounced

1037
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 6: in the sweet sixteen, you know that's right when the

1038
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: first weekend of the NCAA tournament's happening. Like, if Duke

1039
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 6: doesn't make the sweet sixteen, if Auburn doesn't make the

1040
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 6: sweet sixteen, I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but those

1041
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 6: things could tilt the vote. Dramatically because recency bias is

1042
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 6: a hell of a drug. People are casting the vote

1043
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 6: first weekend of the NCAA tournament, that is probably what

1044
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 6: they're going to be waiting the most. I think for

1045
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 6: the rest of the bracket, Like, I think there's some

1046
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 6: really underrated teams that could sneak in outside the one line.

1047
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 6: I think Texas Tech's really good. I think Maryland is

1048
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 6: better than people think. I think Michigan State is intriguing,

1049
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 6: even though they can't make a three. I think those

1050
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 6: team and Alabama, if they can make their threes like

1051
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 6: they have the highest they were in the final four

1052
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 6: last year, people forget like they have a very high

1053
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 6: upside as well. But in terms of chalk, I don't

1054
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 6: think you're gonna see all four one seeds make the

1055
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 6: final four.

1056
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 4: I think if you had to go.

1057
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 6: Over one and a half one seeds, you probably priced

1058
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 6: that at minus money. But I think that's kind of

1059
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 6: where I draw the line right there.

1060
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's like most tournaments rich it's gonna

1061
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: be both. You know, you're gonna get your chalky favorites

1062
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: advanced deep into the tournament, and then you're gonna have

1063
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: these crazy upsets as well. I don't think it's gonna

1064
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: be one without the other. I think it's gonna be

1065
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: a blend of both, because it's just it's such a

1066
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: massive tournament. You know, there's so many teams in this

1067
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: where like Jared's talking about a couple of one seeds

1068
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: probably gonna get bounced and you're gonna be like, WHOA,

1069
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: what happened? Houston's out already? How did they lose? To

1070
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: fill in the blank, random team, you know, like that

1071
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 3: can happen. I would I put my money on both.

1072
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: I can't imagine it's gonna be the Year of the

1073
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: Cinderella collectively, or it's the Year of Chalk collectively. I

1074
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a mixture of both.

1075
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: I agree, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's how it seems

1076
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 5: to always work out. And by the way, that's the

1077
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: beauty of a postseason tournament bracket this large is because

1078
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 5: you are making room for chaos, and I think that's fun.

1079
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 5: I think I think that's the reason why everybody gets

1080
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 5: so gripped, especially in the first two rounds of this postseason,

1081
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 5: and you have, you know, grandmothers and frat boys in

1082
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 5: the same bracket pools. It's because everybody, everybody likes the

1083
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 5: Cinderella story, and and it's a postseason that actually affords

1084
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 5: the opportunity to have a team come from out of nowhere,

1085
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 5: you know, and and every single you know, betting expert,

1086
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: sports analysts like US or sports talks, you can say

1087
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 5: whatever you want about a matchup. You don't know until

1088
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: they hit the hardwood.

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Speaker 4: And I love that.

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 5: So it does make sense that it's sort of like

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00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 5: by nature of having sixty four teams battle it out,

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00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 5: and more than that with the first four tournament. But

1093
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 5: to have that many teams in the pool, there's gonna

1094
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: be some level of variance that you're not expecting.

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00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm curious if we're ever going.

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00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 5: To see the scale the scales tip because of the

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00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 5: obvious benefit some of these bigger powerhouse schools in college basketball,

1098
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: the boost they've been given because of the new climate

1099
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: of college sports, college athletics overall with the NIL and

1100
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 5: transfer portal.

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00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 6: I think college basketball, I don't want to say it's

1102
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 6: insulated from it, but I think it's it's not as

1103
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 6: I think the impact of NIL is not as felt

1104
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 6: as significantly in the hoops world as it is in

1105
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 6: the football world. Hey, there's so many more teams, so

1106
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 6: many more players, so you get this natural ebb and

1107
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 6: flow to the move like you see these players like

1108
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 6: players have always been transferring college basketball, and they cone

1109
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 6: to the new team and all of a sudden, they're

1110
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 6: great right away. I'll give you another sleeper team that

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Speaker 6: I think is very I think the ACC is a

1112
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 6: having a down year. I don't think that's debatable, but

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00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 6: I actually think Clemson is very underrated in the ACC.

1114
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 6: I think they were in the Elite eight last year

1115
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: and they brought back a lot from that team. They've

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00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 6: beaten Duke, Like Duke is considered right and Duke is

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00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 6: the favorite to win the championship right now because of

1118
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 6: Auburn's little decline over the last week.

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Speaker 4: Clemson beat Duke.

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Speaker 6: And Clemson's got the size to match up with the

1121
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 6: big teams, and they also have a really good coach.

1122
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 6: I think Brad Brown has done a really good job

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 6: with this program. Again, they were in the Elite fricking

1124
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 6: eight last year. They beat Baylor to beat Arizona, lost

1125
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 6: a tough game to Bama to go to the Final four.

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00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 6: I think Clemson, because of where the public perception is

1127
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 6: on the ACC right now. It's all about if you

1128
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 6: want to find value in the betting market, you gotta

1129
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 6: fade the narrow. The narratives right now is SEC is dominant.

1130
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 6: Oh my god. I will be betting against the SEC

1131
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 6: in almost every game in the NC Double A Tournament.

1132
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 6: The ACC stinks. I will be betting on Clemson probably

1133
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 6: every game in the NC Double A Tournament because the

1134
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 6: value right now says, well, Clemson can't land because they're

1135
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 6: in the ACC. And I think that's kind of the

1136
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 6: mindset I have heading into the Big Dance.

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Speaker 2: I don't dislike it.

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Speaker 3: I just love the idea of when the bracket comes

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00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 3: out and you're looking at your you know, the betting lines,

1140
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, I guess I'm on Drake today. Huh,

1141
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 3: I guess this SEC team?

1142
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 4: Right? Like?

1143
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: You know, like you're you're not just fading the SEC team.

1144
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 3: You're embracing the underdog right.

1145
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 6: Match up dependent don't just blindly fade them if they're

1146
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 6: playing like you know, Southern Illinois Edwardsville or something like

1147
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 6: right right right?

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00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: No, I got But Hey, I don't dislike it.

1149
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 3: I just like the idea of, oh gosh, I guess

1150
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: I'm embracing this random team.

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's go Roadrunners.

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Speaker 3: So the Cincinnati Bengals, they have given defensive end Trey

1176
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: Hendrickson permission to seek a trade, which to me, I

1177
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 3: don't understand what they're thinking over here. I think they're

1178
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: prioritizing the wrong T, which would be T Higgins, their

1179
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: wide receiver, who I think highly of. T Higgins is

1180
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: a very good player. I think he could be a

1181
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: legitimate number one receiver elsewhere. But they're trying to re

1182
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: sign both Jamar Chase and T Higgins, their stud wide receivers,

1183
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: while they're giving Trey Hendrickson, who's a fantastic defensive end,

1184
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: permission to seek a trade. Their defense is what screwed

1185
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 3: up their season last year. I don't know why they're

1186
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 3: going even more all in offenseensively, or at least looking

1187
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: to do that. You can find wide receiver depth in

1188
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: the draft. You go back to It splows my mind.

1189
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: You go back to the twenty thirteen draft, okay, because

1190
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: everybody else was their rookies last year. But just for

1191
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more seasoning. Listen to all this talent

1192
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: in the draft. You had Jackson Smith and Jigbug go

1193
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: to the Seahawks twentieth overall. Zay Flowers goes twenty second

1194
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: to the Ravens. Those are first round picks. Then you

1195
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: go even deeper. Jayden Reid has made an impact with

1196
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: the Packers, Rashie Rice with the Chiefs, Tank Dell with

1197
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: the Texans before he got hurt. Uh, you even go

1198
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: down even further. Puka Nakua hello in the fifth round.

1199
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: Like there's talent throughout the draft. As far as wide

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00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: receivers goes, I don't know why the Bengals would be

1201
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: looking to not only pay Jamar Chase a premium, which

1202
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: makes sense, but then double dip and then pay t

1203
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 3: Higgins a premium with a long term extension. I think

1204
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: you gotta let someone go, and if anybody, it should

1205
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 3: be T Higgins. Joe Burrow is an upper echelon quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's gonna wilt into nothing if he

1207
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 3: doesn't have wide receiver studs all around him. I say

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: keep Trey Hendrickson. Put some money into that defense instead

1209
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: of going all in offensively. I don't like the approach

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: by the Bengals here.

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Speaker 5: I think certain teams they have the gift of ownership

1212
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 5: that can make quality investments and other teams don't. And

1213
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 5: we see this more so in sports like baseball than

1214
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 5: we do in football, but it does rear its head

1215
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 5: in football sometimes, especially when we're talking about contract extensions

1216
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 5: and retention of potential free agents. And that's where the

1217
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 5: Bengals are at. They're between a rock and the hard

1218
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 5: place because they have an owner who is classically cheap.

1219
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 5: He does not want to pay enormous guarantees to retain talent.

1220
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 5: So what's the only way around that. You got to

1221
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 5: younger and cheaper in certain spots on your roster. So

1222
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 5: that's exactly what they're doing. Defensively, he's going to keep

1223
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 5: the guys or keeping fans in their seat. He's seeing

1224
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 5: way more receiver jerseys than he has defensive end jerseys

1225
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 5: coming through the gates at his ballpark, at his stadium.

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01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: I mean, we see this all the time. This is

1227
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: the decision, are we.

1228
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 5: Gonna get rid of the fantasy football darling, or we're

1229
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 5: gonna get rid of a guy who's bedrock cornerstone to

1230
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 5: our success. And you have your answer, and so they're

1231
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 5: gonna go into the draft and they're gonna probably try

1232
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 5: to improve this defense as best they can using what

1233
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 5: capital they have, but they're not gonna spend.

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01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 6: That's exactly I agree, one hundred percent. I think they

1235
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 6: have the seventeenth overall pick. By the way, weird nugget,

1236
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: every team has their first round pick for the first

1237
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 6: time since two thousand and two, first time ever in

1238
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 6: the thirty two team era. There are no now it

1239
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 6: could change changed Shange. As of March eighth, all thirty

1240
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 6: two teams hold their first round pick all right, seventeenth

1241
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 6: overall pick. Dame Brugler of The Athletic did his post

1242
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 6: combine mock last week, or maybe it was earlier this week.

1243
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 6: I forget what they It is four days ago, so yeah,

1244
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 6: earlier this week. He's been pretty accurate with these mocks,

1245
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 6: the post combine mocks over the years. He had Bonick's

1246
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 6: going to Denver last year. Everyone was like, what Boe

1247
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 6: next month to Denver? Will Johnson corner from Michigan going

1248
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 6: seventeenth to the Bengals, like and Will Johnson all American

1249
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 6: got hurt end of the year, but obviously very talented.

1250
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 6: That feels like what the Bengals are going to do here.

1251
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 6: It feel and Rich alluded to it perfectly. It's the

1252
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 6: fantasy generation that we are in. You put Joe Burrow

1253
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 6: with Chase and t Higgins. The sky's the limit. Sky's

1254
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: the limit on the defensive side as well, in terms

1255
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 6: of how many points they might be allowing. But that's

1256
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 6: how they're going to address it. Like they're kind of

1257
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 6: showing you their hand here by these two moves, right

1258
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 6: franchising Higgins who should absolutely rename himself to Tag Higgins

1259
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 6: after two straight years, after two straight years of the

1260
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 6: franchise dag and they're going to address the defense in

1261
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 6: other areas. Do I agree with it? I'd say him

1262
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 6: like sixty forty agree with it. But the defense was

1263
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 6: really mad for the Bengals last year. I think that's

1264
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 6: why people might be against it, But I understand the vision.

1265
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 6: Rich laid it out pretty perfectly and clearly that's the

1266
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 6: direction the Bengals are going in.

1267
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's crazy to me too, is man, you

1268
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: look at the production last season. We'd all know what

1269
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow did, he was sensational, but you look at

1270
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: the wide receiver production.

1271
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: So Jamar Chase.

1272
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: How about this one hundred and twenty seven catches for

1273
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred and eight yards and seventeen touchdowns. That's the

1274
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: reason why he was a triple crown guy, right, Let

1275
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: all three of those categories. Meanwhile, t Higgins, these are

1276
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: great numbers. Two seventy three catches for nine to eleven

1277
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: and ten touchdowns. Yeah, those are great numbers. And he

1278
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: was banged up, right like t Higgins missed time, he

1279
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: started nine games, put up those No, it's in what

1280
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: he did. Yeah, it's crazy as a number two receiver,

1281
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: you know. So their credentials speak for themselves. But Trey

1282
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: Hendrickson had seventeen and a half sacks last season. He

1283
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: held together that defense that was their Achilles heel. I

1284
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: think Trey Hendrickson is the most underrated player in the

1285
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: entire NFL. Fair Like, who talks about Trey Hendrickson seventeen

1286
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: and a half sacks? We're all talking about you know what,

1287
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: and we talk about Miles Garrett as we should.

1288
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 4: But t J.

1289
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: Wats has stud Trey Hendrickson is putting up numbers that

1290
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: are neck and neck with those guys and gets no

1291
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: shine none.

1292
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: He's fantastic.

1293
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: And if he had the name recognition, do you think

1294
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: the Steelers, like, if Hendrickson had the name recognition of TJ.

1295
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: Watt or Miles Garrett, would they be looking to move him, Like, yeah,

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: go ahead, seek a trade, test your value. No way,

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: he just he doesn't have the name Rich.

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: You explained it very well.

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Speaker 4: Man.

1300
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: If if you had Hendrickson jerseys all over the place

1301
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: like TJ. Watt, I don't think they're giving him permission

1302
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: to seek a trade.

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, listen. Uh, that's the part of this

1304
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 5: business that's really difficult, uh for players when when you're

1305
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 5: when you're in the business, because you realize in college

1306
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 5: football you're like, oh, yeah, like you know, it's for

1307
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 5: the love of the game. But then the longer there,

1308
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 5: you're like, well, actually, no, not really, because enormous salaries

1309
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 5: depend on how well I play. And so this is

1310
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 5: this is this is more of a business than it's

1311
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 5: than I've ever been exposed to in high school football.

1312
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 5: Then you get to the pros and the reality of

1313
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 5: the situation is it's all business. And sometimes that business

1314
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 5: isn't the business of football. Sometimes that business is the

1315
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 5: business of public relations. This is a public relations move.

1316
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 5: The reason why t Higgins got the tract and Trey

1317
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 5: Hendrickson did not is because of the amount of merchandising

1318
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 5: around the player who's staying and versus the player who's

1319
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 5: shopping a trade. Right now, that's the reality of this business.

1320
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 5: It is a business first, and when you're in the

1321
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 5: business of making money, it doesn't matter if the headliner

1322
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 5: is a crumeier band.

1323
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: Then you know the upstart.

1324
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 5: Band who's playing garages and you know clubs and bars

1325
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 5: around town. If they are making more money for the arena,

1326
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 5: guess what, You're not booking the garage band. That's how

1327
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 5: it works. And I'm not even saying I'm not comparing

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 5: Trey hendricks into a garage band. I mean he is

1329
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 5: a tremendous football player and like you said, Brian, arguably

1330
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 5: one of the top five, maybe top three, most underrated

1331
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 5: players in the NFL. That is a great conversation I have.

1332
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 5: He may top the list because of his insane productivity

1333
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 5: versus how low is Q rating is. But this decision

1334
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 5: was based on his visibility, not on his ability.

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Speaker 6: And this isn't the first time the Bengals have gone

1336
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 6: down a road like this. They're a very uniquely run franchise.

1337
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 6: So if you go and look at the gms in

1338
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 6: the NFL, you take Jerry Jones's name out of the

1339
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 6: list because he's his own boss. Duke Tobin, the GM

1340
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 6: of the Bengals, is the longest tenure GM in the league.

1341
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety nine, before the turn of the century. That

1342
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 6: dude was running the Bengals and they did it with

1343
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 6: Marvin Lewis for years where they just kind of let

1344
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 6: the mediocrity kind of waft in the building. And it's

1345
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 6: a very uniquely run franchise, I think, and so I'm

1346
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 6: not surprised that they're going in a route that maybe

1347
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 6: is a little bit contrariant.

1348
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: Now, the defense this year is going to be also.

1349
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 6: Brand new, Al Golden, fresh out from your boy Notre

1350
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 6: Dame there Brian coming into the Bengals DC room this

1351
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 6: year to be the defensive coordinator. You would think that

1352
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 6: they want a fresh start, right, You would think that

1353
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 6: they want to wipe this late clean and let Al

1354
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 6: Golden come in there and probably pick some of the

1355
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 6: groceries and say, hey, I like this scheme, I like

1356
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 6: this guy, he fits here, this is this So I'm

1357
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 6: not surprised that they're kind of wiping the slate clean

1358
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 6: on the defensive side. New DC disaster season last year,

1359
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 6: and the offense was pretty good, So you just try

1360
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 6: to keep running that back and try to continue to

1361
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 6: put that kind of output on the offensive side. And

1362
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: obviously we're going to see some significant changes on the

1363
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 6: Bengals for the defensive side.

1364
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, it's a lot of change.

1365
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: But that's the crazy thing is what screwed up the

1366
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: season was the defense collectively wasn't good, and it's like,

1367
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 3: you know what, let's let Trey Hendrickson go and let's

1368
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: go all in offensively.

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: It's what, wait what?

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Speaker 3: I just don't see how that makes sense year over

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 3: a year and also building it for your future, Like,

1372
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: look at the Chiefs. The Chiefs aren't dummies, you know,

1373
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 3: they're like, we gotta let Tyreek Hill go. We trust

1374
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. That would be like the Bengals are looking

1375
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: to do. Would it make sense if the Chiefs did this, Hey,

1376
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 3: let's let Chris Jones go and let's go all in

1377
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: offensively and keep Tyreek Hill.

1378
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: I don't think that approach would make nearly as much sense.

1379
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 6: As Yeah, right, it's an interesting angle.

1380
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't understand it.

1381
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: Hey, be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

1382
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and

1383
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,799
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1384
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,679
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1385
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,880
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1386
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio's Countdown, presented by bet MGM. This was

1387
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: news that we'll just throw out there. Unfortunate if it's true.

1388
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,879
Speaker 3: But Will Kunkle he is at Fox twenty six in Houston.

1389
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 3: According to him, he tweeted this out where Chiefs wide

1390
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: receiver Xavier Worthy. He was arrested last night in Williamson County, Texas.

1391
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: There are criminal charges of assault against a family or

1392
01:09:55,240 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: household member by impeding their breathing or circulation. So not

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: what we want to hear right there. Obviously, I think

1394
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: we immediately speed to the football part of this, which

1395
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: is disrespectful.

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: Again, this is a charge. We'll see how this shakes out.

1397
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: But if there was a victim, like, first and foremost

1398
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 3: our thoughts are with that person. But then you get

1399
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: to the football aspect of this, and it's like.

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: Hey, what's gonna happen.

1401
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: Remember the Rashie Rice thing where there was an accident

1402
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 3: and he fled that that just went away when he

1403
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: was hurt. So I don't know if there's there's gonna

1404
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: be any sort of suspension as far as that goes.

1405
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 3: Maybe that possible suspension with Xavier Worthy here, the Chiefs

1406
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 3: traded Joe Tooney, their offensive guard who was playing tackle

1407
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: for a good chunk of the season, traded him to

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: the Bear. So a lot of change going on with

1409
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: the Chiefs who were just in the Super Bowl.

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01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, no question about it.

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01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 5: And you remember, if I'm remembering this correctly, the Rashi

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01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 5: Rice incident in Dallas Fort Worth area where he fled

1413
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 5: the scene of a multiple car accident where injuries occurred.

1414
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 5: The NFL still hasn't levied their punishment on Rashid right.

1415
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's because not everything has been squared away

1416
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 5: legally yet, or if it has, they're still quote unquote

1417
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 5: investigating and making that decision. But that was the reason

1418
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 5: why they brought in Xay if you're worthy in the

1419
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 5: first place, Like that was the like Xavier Worthy was

1420
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 5: supposed to be the guy who just in case Rice

1421
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 5: wasn't ready to go after his fabulous rookie season. Well,

1422
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 5: at least we have this speedster. We'll see if he

1423
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 5: can catch the football at the NFL level. Well he did,

1424
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 5: and he was capable and competent, helped them make their

1425
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 5: way to their next Super Bowl, and then all of

1426
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 5: a sudden, more problems. You know, it's weird man, Andy

1427
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 5: Reid has. Speaking of public relations, Andy Reid has done

1428
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 5: a better job than any football coach of keeping the

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01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 5: clean image of his football program intact through some of

1430
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 5: the worst behavior we've seen maybe in a decade. Yeah,

1431
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 5: how many Chiefs players Tyreek Hill included that receiver room

1432
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 5: has been riddled with horrible behavior. Now I understand this

1433
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 5: worthy situation is alleged at the moment, but if this

1434
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 5: becomes factual at any point this offseason, my goodness, How

1435
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 5: have the.

1436
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 4: Chiefs kept such a squeaky.

1437
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 5: Clean image even though they've been, I mean just involved

1438
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 5: in some of the things that have been the least

1439
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 5: savory storylines we've seen in the NFL over the past

1440
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 5: five to ten years.

1441
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is this is not I texted the group

1442
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 6: this morning when I saw this news break, I was like,

1443
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 6: this is just it's gotten to the point now where

1444
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 6: you gotta and Rich I think you commented too, like

1445
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 6: the Chiefs are having some issues now with some of

1446
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 6: this off the field stuff, like this is becoming a thing,

1447
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 6: and that's not a thing that you want. You know,

1448
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 6: we want to be talking about the Chiefs. You know,

1449
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 6: how are they going to rebuild from a really tough

1450
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 6: Super Bowl aws and bounce back and get back to

1451
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 6: the top of the mountain. This is not the kind

1452
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 6: of news you want a month and a half before

1453
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 6: the draft, because now this is the off season storyline.

1454
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 6: It's not how can the Chiefs get back to Super

1455
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 6: Bowl champs? It's why are all these things happening to

1456
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 6: Kansas City? Are we gonna have to deal with some

1457
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 6: kind of a wide receiver? You know, are the Chiefs

1458
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 6: wide receiver needy? Even though they have Rice and Worthy?

1459
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 6: You know, those are two really good young receivers. But

1460
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 6: are they gonna be able to be eligible for the

1461
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 6: entire season? Now, Like, these are not the questions you

1462
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 6: want to be asking yourself heading into the draft, but

1463
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 6: but this is the situation, the reality. We'll Kunkle, by

1464
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 6: the way, does a great job. I used to work

1465
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 6: with them in Michigan fantastic local reporter down there in Houston,

1466
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 6: and that's where this story broke, so I trust his reporting.

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 6: And it looks like the mugshot coming from the Texas

1468
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 6: you know, police station that he was arrested in. And

1469
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 6: this is gonna be a thing over the next few

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01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 6: weeks as Kansas City tries to shake this out.

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Speaker 3: It's wild because two things come to mind. Is it

1472
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 3: was just the combine the other week, and Xavier Worthy

1473
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: was tweeting out there's fast, then there's me.

1474
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: Which is true.

1475
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 3: It is he's got so much ability, and it's like,

1476
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 3: just don't screw it up by making stupid decisions. It's

1477
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 3: a little bit like Georgia football where you're like, what's

1478
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: going on here with It's like the Fast and the Furious.

1479
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just playing on a loop

1480
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: at the training facility and they leave and they're like,

1481
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: let's go drag race, you know, but it keeps happening.

1482
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 3: And now you look at the Chiefs in a similar

1483
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 3: manner where you're like, what is going on with these

1484
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,839
Speaker 3: receivers and some of this behavior over here. Our technical

1485
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: producer Chris Burffett has something for it.

1486
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 8: Well, since our usual producer bo is not here. I

1487
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 8: guess it's speaking his honor. Like you know, he was

1488
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 8: talking about all last year how the forty nine ers

1489
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 8: felt like a team even though they didn't win the

1490
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 8: Super Bowl, they were having a super Bowl hangover, And

1491
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 8: I mean, it's starting to feel like the Chiefs are

1492
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 8: kind of on that track too. It may just be

1493
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 8: like you're just hit a weird curse when you lose

1494
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl. Just everything seems to just not go

1495
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 8: your way. And this good for the Raiders, Good for

1496
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 8: the Raiders. Gosh, yeah, you know, Tom Brady's done it again,

1497
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 8: Tom Brady, I.

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 4: Will, I will.

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,440
Speaker 5: My closing statements on this whole thing is the fascination

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01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 5: I have with the Chiefs is, even though they've had

1501
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 5: a little bit of what you were talking about, Brian,

1502
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 5: kind of a toxic culture similar to that of the

1503
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 5: Georgia Bulldogs in college football, where they seem to have

1504
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 5: an off the field issue every offseason. In spite of

1505
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 5: it all the flowers. You gotta give to Andy Reid

1506
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 5: and the culture he's created around Kansas City is distractions

1507
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 5: do not matter. So you give him a ton of credit.

1508
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 5: You give Andy Reid a ton of credit. Because not

1509
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 5: only have they had off the field distractions in the

1510
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 5: negative light, but in the positive light with Taylor Swift,

1511
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 5: and they've still gone to back to back to back

1512
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 5: Super Bowls in this era where it's really difficult to

1513
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 5: do that.

1514
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, amen to that.

1515
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,879
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1516
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,360
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1525
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Speaker 1: This prop it up player plays.

1540
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, the prop betting market here. Jared, we start

1541
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: with you. What's something you have circled?

1542
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 6: Well, I've got this Duke Carolina game. Circ We haven't

1543
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 6: talked a whole lot about it yet today it is

1544
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 6: a very intriguing matchup for Duke. They're a big favorite

1545
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 6: in the game, North Carolina not as much on the line.

1546
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 6: It does look like they're actually they've been winning a

1547
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 6: little bit lately, but I don't think their defense is

1548
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,480
Speaker 6: very good. I think Cooper Flag is gonna.

1549
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: Have a big game.

1550
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 6: I think he can see the Wooden Awards squarely in

1551
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 6: his sight. So you got a big game the last

1552
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 6: nine these two teams faced each other. I'll give you

1553
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 6: the numbers right now. Twenty one points, eight rebounds, seven assists.

1554
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 6: His point prop today at bet MGM is twenty and

1555
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 6: a half, his rebound prop seven and a half plus

1556
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 6: money to the over. I would bet both of them.

1557
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 6: You can combine them together if you want little SGP action.

1558
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 6: I did a twenty point six rebound SGP for plus money,

1559
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 6: but for simplicity purposes, over twenty and a half points

1560
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 6: over seven and a half rebounds for Trooper Flag today.

1561
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 6: I think he has a big game in the regular

1562
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,520
Speaker 6: season finale against his rival Bitarhals.

1563
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 5: Okay, give me Miles Bridges under thirty one and a

1564
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 5: half points and rebounds playing the Nets.

1565
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 4: Pretty good rebounding team.

1566
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 5: He's only hit this stat at this number eight of

1567
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 5: the last fifteen, and so that sounds like, well, maybe

1568
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 5: it tips your favor over the line the thirty one

1569
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 5: and a half, but not against the Nets. I like

1570
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 5: Bridges going under the thirty one and a half points rebounds,

1571
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 5: So there we're at points rebounds. Miles Bridges, give me

1572
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 5: the under.

1573
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 3: Okay, man, A lot of temptations over here has so

1574
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 3: many options here. Yeah, I'm thinking about you know what.

1575
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: Initially I love Jani Broom. He's had a sensational season.

1576
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 3: But when you start thinking about his props where his

1577
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 3: point total is twenty and a half, I could see

1578
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 3: him going over that. His rebounding total is eleven and

1579
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 3: a half. That's high, but I could see him going

1580
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: over that. The question is his health that ankle, you

1581
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, don't you pause a little bit,

1582
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: Jared and rich Right, you know it's like I want

1583
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 3: to but if I see him, you know, it takes

1584
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 3: one weird landing and he's wobbling around a little bit,

1585
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: and you're like, shoot, I need like seven more rebounds

1586
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 3: here that I'm gonna stay away from that one. I'm

1587
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 3: gonna stay away today. If anything, maybe you look to

1588
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 3: fade him and go on the under. But they're playing

1589
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: Baba who plays zero defense. I'm not comfortable with Daddy.

1590
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the NBA. Give me Jason Tatum.

1591
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 3: I've talked trash about the Lakers lack of a front court.

1592
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 3: It's time to put my money where my mouth. Give

1593
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: me Jason Tatum. Over eight and a half rebounds today.

1594
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: He's been a low key, really solid rebounder for the Celtics.

1595
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 3: I think it's because of his scoring ability that's what

1596
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 3: gets your attention. But the rebounding ability is there. I'll

1597
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 3: take over eight and a half at minus a dollar

1598
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: ten here today for Jason Tatum and the Celtics.

1599
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. There's my play all right.

1600
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 3: Coming up next, we get back to ball and we

1601
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 3: got a lot of really good hoops.

1602
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 6: Matchups that as well.

1603
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: Oh what's going on? I hope your Saturday is going

1604
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: swimmingly so far. Just gets better and better. I'll tell

1605
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 3: you what, man, We'll get to the college hoops matchups

1606
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 3: here momentarily. But I just can't get enough of the

1607
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 3: reaction of the Raiders. Geno. Smith traded a third round

1608
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 3: pick for Geno, and it's just it's it's funny to

1609
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 3: me because.

1610
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: I get it right. It's fueled by what you just

1611
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: had that.

1612
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 3: Right, right, Davis, right there, real they just have They

1613
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 3: had Gardner minshew, they had Aidan O'Connell.

1614
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo for a stint, Derek.

1615
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: Right, Derek Carr, consistent play for a while, and now

1616
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: it's like streamers in confetti.

1617
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh baby, super.

1618
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 6: Coming to Vegas.

1619
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 3: And it's just funny, right if you look at the

1620
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 3: rest of the division, I mean obvious is Chiefs fans.

1621
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 3: You think MAVs fans are going crazy right now with

1622
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 3: Luca getting traded. Imagine if somehow, in some crazy universe,

1623
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are like, you know what, let's trade.

1624
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: Mahomes and get Geno Smith in here.

1625
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 6: Stop right.

1626
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 3: I know, but it's just insanity. But imagine just what

1627
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: if the Chargers. Can you imagine the Charger fans like, hey,

1628
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: we don't have Justin Herbert anymore. We've got Geno Smith.

1629
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 3: They'd be like, what are we doing right now?

1630
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1631
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 3: Like?

1632
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 2: So, I like, I can't help, but think of it

1633
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: that way.

1634
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: When I'm looking at the Raiders getting Gino and it's

1635
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: like they're doing cartwheels in the streets, it just shows

1636
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 3: how badly you guys have sucked for so long at quarterback. Well,

1637
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 3: it's just the reality. I hate to be doom and gloom,

1638
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 3: but that's the true.

1639
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 5: If you have a diverse friend group, right, And what

1640
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 5: I mean by that is you have you know, people

1641
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 5: at different points in their life, you know, like you

1642
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 5: have you know some some of your friends are married,

1643
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 5: some of your friends are single trying to figure out

1644
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 5: their lives. You know, depending on perspective, things seem rosier

1645
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 5: or bleaker. So you're talking about the Chargers who are

1646
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 5: married to Justin Herbert happily. If they all of a

1647
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 5: sudden dumped him and went out with Gino.

1648
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 4: You'd be like, what are you doing? Like what do

1649
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 4: you like?

1650
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 5: You were you were dating a supermodel and now and

1651
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 5: what what it's like? It's so But that perspective is

1652
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 5: from that standpoint because the platitude that Los Angeles sits

1653
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 5: on right now. But Las Vegas, we just discussed it

1654
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 5: look no offense to Gardner Minshew. I want to have

1655
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 5: a beer with Gardner Minshew more than maybe any other

1656
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 5: human on the planet. He seems like the most interesting

1657
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 5: man in the world. I want to I want to

1658
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 5: split a medello with him.

1659
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: I want to figure out.

1660
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 5: I want to figure out what makes that guy tig

1661
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 5: But in terms of being a starter in the NFL,

1662
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 5: when he's a starter for your football team, it means

1663
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 5: that things aren't going well. It means that your starter

1664
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 5: got injured. It means that you were playing musical chairs

1665
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 5: and the music stopped and you were left standing like

1666
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 5: That's the reason why Gardner Minshew is your starter when

1667
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 5: you're in a situation like the Raiders have been for

1668
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 5: a couple of seasons with the names we just mentioned

1669
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 5: at quarterback, Aiden O'Connell, Derek Carr on the decline during

1670
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 5: the end of his time with the Vegas Raiders, and

1671
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 5: then they sat him on the bench to keep him

1672
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 5: healthy before getting him out of there, Jimmy Garoppolo for

1673
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 5: a short stint. The perspective is rosie when you trade

1674
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 5: for a guy like Geno Smith for multiple reasons, and

1675
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 5: we laid this out earlier, but for our new listening

1676
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 5: audience right now, I mean Gino Smith has a tremendous

1677
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:22,480
Speaker 5: amount of NFL experience.

1678
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 4: Gino Smith has been through the wars.

1679
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 5: He was a guy who was supposed to be a

1680
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 5: game changing player when he was first drafted and did

1681
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 5: not work out, so he had to learn a lot

1682
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 5: as a backup in this league. He was a bridge

1683
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 5: quarterback how many times throughout the course of his career

1684
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 5: before finally earning his way onto the field during an

1685
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 5: open competition with Drew Locke for a Seattle team that

1686
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 5: was left for dead in the NFC West, and he

1687
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,480
Speaker 5: had a fabulous breakout season.

1688
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 4: As a starter. Now has he played to that level since?

1689
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: No?

1690
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 5: But I will say this, the fact that he has

1691
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 5: shown the ability to do that is intriguing. The fact

1692
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 5: that he's working, which Kelly is intriguing. The fact that

1693
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 5: he's been a bridge quarterback so many times over again,

1694
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 5: and he's got those leadership qualities, those intangibles that you

1695
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 5: want in a leader on your field at that position

1696
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 5: is intriguing.

1697
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,520
Speaker 4: I think the Raiders made a huge upgrade.

1698
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 6: I did this exercise last night now that Gino's in place,

1699
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 6: because I think we can, you know, we can go

1700
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 6: back and forth about how what the ceiling is for Geno.

1701
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 6: I think the Raiders win total probably going to be

1702
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 6: in the six to seven range, and I think there

1703
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 6: is going to be some appetite for the over But

1704
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 6: we'll see. We'll see what the number, We'll see what

1705
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 6: they do in the draft. The rest of the quarterback

1706
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 6: situations in the NFL become very intriguing now because I

1707
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 6: don't think a lot of people expected Gino to be

1708
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 6: in Vegas. I think a lot of people, including the

1709
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 6: Seahawks GM, which last week at the combine, did an

1710
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 6: interview with Mike Florio and said, yeah, no, Gino's our guy.

1711
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 6: And then life comes at your fest in the NFL.

1712
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 6: So now you've got the Seahawks with a quarterback opening.

1713
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 6: You've got the Vikings with JJ McCarthy may be healthy,

1714
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 6: maybe not so. The Vikings might have an opening two

1715
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 6: week one if if JJ's not one hundred percent. You've

1716
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 6: got the Colts that look to be willing to move

1717
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 6: on from Anthony Richardson. You've got the Jets with Aaron

1718
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 6: Rodgers who just departed. You've got the Giants who are

1719
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 6: more desperate than I was chasing women at penn S Date,

1720
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 6: trying to get every quarterback in the NFL to come

1721
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 6: to them, and nobody seems to want to go. And

1722
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 6: then you've got, of course, the Browns and the Titans

1723
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 6: at the top of the draft, who obviously need a quarterback.

1724
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 6: I don't think Will Levis the experiment might be one

1725
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 6: more year, but I think Tennessee is going to be

1726
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 6: very interested in trying to add someone in the quarterback market.

1727
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,959
Speaker 6: Of Course, the Browns to Sean Watson, they just restructured

1728
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 6: him for like the eighth time in the last six weeks,

1729
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 6: and he's probably not gonna play this year. I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1730
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 6: eight teams in the NFL if you want to clude

1731
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 6: the Steelers in that mix with Russell Wilson and Justin

1732
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 6: Fields and how they handle that. A lot of quarterbacks

1733
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 6: that we still need to figure out who are going

1734
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 6: to be homes in twenty twenty five, Like what's the

1735
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 6: exercise here? I think Sam Darnold to the Seahawks makes sense.

1736
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 6: I think Russell Wilson's staying in Pittsburgh makes sense. I

1737
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 6: think the Giants moving up in the draft and take

1738
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 6: cam Ward makes sense. I've heard Kirk cousins name floated

1739
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 6: to Cleveland. Kevin Stefanski, former offensive coordinator in Minnesota. Could

1740
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 6: see a reunion there with Kirk Cousins and Stefanski the Titans.

1741
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 6: I mean, what are the Titans do? Like I just think,

1742
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 6: and now that we have the Geno Smith answer it

1743
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 6: kind of you know, the musical chairs continues. We keep

1744
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 6: playing this game, but there's a lot of open seats

1745
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 6: in the NFL with quarterbacks, and I do not. I mean,

1746
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 6: we got a lot more movement to come over the

1747
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 6: next few weeks.

1748
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 3: Well that's what makes me wonder, you know, all we

1749
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 3: heard last year was hey, bo Nicks is not really

1750
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 3: a first round talent, you know, and then he was

1751
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: the starter all season long for Denver. And so it

1752
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: gets me thinking, with all those teams that you mentioned, Jared,

1753
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 3: that are gonna need a quarterback outside of cam Ward

1754
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 3: and Shaduur Sanders, is there a guy that gets drafted

1755
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: who starts day Washington?

1756
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 4: You know?

1757
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: Right? Is it gonna be Jackson Dart?

1758
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be someone like Tyler Shock or Jalen Milroe? Right, Like,

1759
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 3: we're just so focused on cam Ward and Shaduer Sanders,

1760
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 3: But this is a game of musical chairs, and when

1761
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 3: the music stops, like these these teams are gonna have

1762
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 3: someone at quarterback and it might be a rookie not

1763
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: named Ward or Sanders. You know, that's a very real

1764
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: possibility for a team here like the Seahawks, where do

1765
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: they go with their their quarterback situation? Do they go

1766
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: the Sam Donald route? Do they go young? Because to me,

1767
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: you know, it's the Spider Man meme. It's Gino Smith

1768
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: and Sam Darnald are pointing at each other. And I

1769
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 3: know Donald had the better season statistically last year, but

1770
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, you swop them out. You put Gino over

1771
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 3: there with Justin Jefferson and that supporting cast, he might

1772
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 3: look a little bit better. He did have a good

1773
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 3: supporting cast in Seattle. But I just don't think there's

1774
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 3: a whole lot of separation between Sam and Gino. So

1775
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 3: does Seattle look and say, hey, we're upgrading from Gino

1776
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: with Sam Darnold, minus Tyler Lockett and probably minus Dk Metcalf,

1777
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: I don't think you are. So I don't know if

1778
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 3: they go the Sam route or if they look to

1779
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 3: the draft. A lot of questions with a lot of

1780
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 3: these teams at QB.

1781
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yeah.

1782
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 5: And you heard Daniel Jeremiah, draft analyst color analysts discussing

1783
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 5: that in NFL circles it does sound like DK Metcalf

1784
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 5: is going to be lured away from the franchise by namely,

1785
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 5: the New England Patriots are getting very aggressive trying to

1786
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 5: shape up their roster ahead of this season.

1787
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 4: Drake May showed.

1788
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 5: Great progress as a rookie and great promise as a rookie,

1789
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 5: and you have nothing at receiver to speak of in

1790
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 5: New England, and so throwing a rookie into that situation

1791
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 5: where you have nowhere to go with the football that's

1792
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 5: really of note and still having a pass season. Man,

1793
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 5: can you imagine how much better the Patriots offense would

1794
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 5: have looked last season, which Drake may have DK Metcalf

1795
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 5: was out there. So I think there's gonna be a

1796
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 5: team or teams very interested in the DK sweepstakes. And

1797
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 5: there's a lot of teams with a lot of cap

1798
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 5: room all of a sudden, probably more than half the

1799
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 5: room has a pretty good cap projection in terms of

1800
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 5: being able to lock down somebody special to help their

1801
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 5: team defensively or offensively. And the Patriots need a ton

1802
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 5: of help on that offense. So I think that could

1803
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 5: be a great, great pickup for them. And then going

1804
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 5: back to what you were talking about, you know, Seattle

1805
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 5: the other side of this equation, we're you know, we're

1806
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 5: lauding the Raiders from the perspective of the fan base

1807
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 5: and the franchise. How good of a leap they just

1808
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 5: took with Gino Smith because it is sizable.

1809
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 4: But what does Seattle do now?

1810
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 5: And that is a head scratching question because they're going

1811
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 5: to be losing assets, not gaining in my opinion, or

1812
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 5: you know, staying neutral quarterback potentially.

1813
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if they lose d Kay all of a sudden,

1814
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 6: Sam Darnald's like, do I really want to go to Seattle?

1815
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 6: Go from the indoors stadium and when outdoors stadium, I

1816
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 6: just lost my best receiver, Tyler Lockett's also gone. All right,

1817
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 6: here are my prediction. I'll make some predictions right now

1818
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 6: because that's what we do on the show. I do

1819
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 6: think Seattle is going to try to chase down Sam Donald.

1820
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 6: I'm hearing a lot of that where they're smoke, there's fire.

1821
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 6: I'll go with that. I think the Steelers keep Russell Wilson.

1822
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 6: I think he's a cheap option. He knows the offense.

1823
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 6: I think they run it back with Russ another year.

1824
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 4: The Jets.

1825
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 6: I'm hearing some buzz with Justin Fields. I think from

1826
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 6: what from what I'm hearing, Hey, you're telling you're appreciating

1827
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 6: the choir bright I'm a freaking Jets fan. We go

1828
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 6: from Aaron Rodgers who can't get out of his own way,

1829
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 6: to now Justin Fields. But that seems to be a

1830
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 6: direction that they want to go in. I think the

1831
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 6: Browns and Kirk Cousins makes a lot of sense because

1832
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 6: of the Stefanski connection, so I'll go Jets, Justin Fields,

1833
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 6: Brown's Kirk Cousins. I think the Titans and the Giants

1834
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 6: will be cam Wardchador Sanders.

1835
01:31:58,720 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't know which one will be which.

1836
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 6: I think the Giants will likely try to move up

1837
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 6: and take cam Ward one. That makes sense if you

1838
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 6: think there's gonna be a trade, but those trades can

1839
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 6: be tricky. Going from three to one is gonna cost you. However,

1840
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 6: if Joe Shane's gonna lose his job if he gives

1841
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 6: up to twenty six twenty seven first round pick, He's

1842
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 6: not gonna be around to make those picks anyway. So

1843
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 6: maybe the Giants just push all the chips.

1844
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 4: Into the middle.

1845
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 6: They try to go up and get cam Ward and

1846
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 6: try to save Joe Shane and Brian Dables' job. So

1847
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 6: I think Giants Titans make sense cam Ward shaudor Sanders.

1848
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 6: I think Aaron Rodgers in Minnesota makes a ton of

1849
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 6: sense too. I think you get one Bridge year with

1850
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 6: Rogers with Kevin O'Connell, great offensive court, great offensive mine,

1851
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 6: head coach, and you get that indoor vibe for Aaron Rodgers.

1852
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,959
Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, the Jets Vikings old quarterback

1853
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 6: connection just seems to be like this weird karma thing

1854
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 6: where Brett faarthrows from the Jets to the Vikings, and

1855
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 6: I could see Aaron Rodgers doing it too, And that

1856
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 6: leaves the Colts with a big question mark. And I

1857
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 6: think that's the team to really kind of target as

1858
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 6: your X factor because Indy's got an owner who is

1859
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 6: very much a gunslinging type of owner, and I don't

1860
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 6: think they're happy with Anthony Richardson. So if you want

1861
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 6: to talk about a wild card team in the draft

1862
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 6: and free agency to really make that splash move to

1863
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 6: shake things up, I think the Indianapolis Colts have got

1864
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 6: a great running back, good defense, They've got all the

1865
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 6: pieces in place. They play in a division that's up

1866
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 6: for grabs. I don't think anyone's really dominating that AFC South.

1867
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 6: You've got Indy, I think is a wildcard sleeper team

1868
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 6: to make some crazy moves for a quarterback.

1869
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 3: Well, the whole QB carousel thing, it makes me think

1870
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 3: of the past and the present, right like going into

1871
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 3: this year's.

1872
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Draft, look at last year's draft.

1873
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 3: Because you mentioned rich you mentioned the Patriots with Drake

1874
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 3: May I would much rather be the Patriots, right now

1875
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,839
Speaker 3: with a young guy who looks to be a potential

1876
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 3: franchise quarterback in Drake May. He was good last season

1877
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 3: all things considered, with not much around him at all,

1878
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 3: you know, And so you apply that to this year's draft.

1879
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 3: You know, the Titans or the the Giants that don't

1880
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 3: have a really good supporting cast. Ideally, you'd love to

1881
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 3: have a great supporting cast, talented roster, and then you

1882
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 3: get the quarterback, but you're probably not gonna be drafting

1883
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 3: first or third like the Titans or the Giants if

1884
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 3: you have that. So I would much rather be the

1885
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 3: Patriots than the Jets. The Jets have a way better

1886
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 3: roster top to bottom. They don't have a quarterback. The

1887
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 3: Patriots don't have a lot of talent roster wise, but

1888
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 3: they look to potentially have a franchise quarterback. I'd much

1889
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 3: rather be the Patriots. Yes, they've got almost one hundred

1890
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: and thirty million dollars in cap space.

1891
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 2: Imagine if they did get DK Metcalf.

1892
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you start plugging gaps and filling

1893
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 3: holes and it's like, wow, all of a sudden, we've

1894
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 3: got Drake May and this guy and that guy.

1895
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Jets.

1896
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 3: Are like, yeah, we're gonna try it out with Justin

1897
01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 3: fields Over.

1898
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: You're like, good luck with all of that.

1899
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing is I would rather I'd

1900
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 3: rather have the QB in place, whether my roster sucks

1901
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 3: or not, and then I would just try to build

1902
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 3: that up as quickly as possible. But if you don't

1903
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 3: have a quarterback, you're freaking dead. I don't care how

1904
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 3: talented your roster is. You have to have all time

1905
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 3: talent to be a true player and have a deep

1906
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 3: playoff run, like all time talent. Otherwise you're not even

1907
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 3: gonna make the playoffs. Most likely, the Bengals had Burrow

1908
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 3: with MVP numbers and didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, you

1909
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like that, that's insanity to me,

1910
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: But that's what we're looking at in the NFL.

1911
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 5: If Joe Burrow had an eleven win season, he wins

1912
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 5: MVP like that, Like that's how good Joe Burrow was

1913
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 5: this season. I mean, to me, the reason why he

1914
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 5: wasn't in the conversation, he wasn't in the race at

1915
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 5: all is because team results. I mean, if you look

1916
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 5: at his numbers, they were astonishing this season and.

1917
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right.

1918
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 5: Even greatness at quarterback personified in execution couldn't get the

1919
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 5: Bengals over.

1920
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 4: The hump because of how paltry their defense was.

1921
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 5: So if you don't have a quarterback, you are left

1922
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 5: for dead unless you're playing for Mike Tomlin, because he

1923
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 5: is the only coach who on a consistent basis can take,

1924
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, chicken scratch and turn it into chicken salad

1925
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 5: over the past half decade.

1926
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: And that's just getting there, though, Rich That's not making

1927
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 3: a deep run.

1928
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 2: That's just getting to.

1929
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 4: That's just getting to the dance.

1930
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 5: And so you need to have a what I mean,

1931
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 5: if we're really going to like put this in perspective,

1932
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 5: a top five, top ten coach all time to just

1933
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 5: get to the playoffs consistently without a quarterback.

1934
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 4: How many teams have a top five head coach?

1935
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 5: The answer is one, maybe two, including the Chiefs, you

1936
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, that's it, that's it, that's it.

1937
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 5: That's all you're looking at here in the NFL right now.

1938
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 5: So you need a quarterback. And so there are certain

1939
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 5: teams who are going to be making decisions this offseason

1940
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,839
Speaker 5: where they know they're punting and we know why teams

1941
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 5: punt in the NFL, it's because you're playing the long game,

1942
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 5: all right. This offensive drive isn't going anywhere, so we're

1943
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 5: gonna flip the field. We're gonna play a little chess

1944
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 5: instead of checkers here, and we're going to try to

1945
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 5: see what happens on defense so that we're set up

1946
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 5: for a better position to score an attack on the

1947
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 5: next offensive series.

1948
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 4: So if you're.

1949
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,440
Speaker 5: Bringing in a Russell Wilson or Justin Fields this offseason,

1950
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 5: it's because you're punting on this season, or your name

1951
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 5: is Mike Tomlin and you're trying to get back to

1952
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 5: the postseason somehow.

1953
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 6: It's a great way of putting it. It really is,

1954
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 6: because I think you have the teams that are in

1955
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 6: that shove mode, and the Patriots are that team. They

1956
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 6: see the vision like the Patriots are going forward on

1957
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 6: fourth down. They've got the quarterback, go bring in the receiver, yep,

1958
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 6: go get to that next level. Whereas I think the

1959
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 6: Steelers punt, Jets punt. The Giants are desperate to try

1960
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 6: to go forward on fourth down. But the Giants are

1961
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 6: at fourth and twenty six at their own eight yard

1962
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 6: line and they're trying to throw a Hell Mary, to

1963
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 6: get Kyler Murray, to get Aaron Rodgers. I think they're

1964
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 6: gonna end up getting a quarterback in the draft. I

1965
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 6: think that's probably the most reasonable option for them. The

1966
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 6: Browns are an intriguing team because now you got this

1967
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett situation floating around right, Like Miles Garrett tried

1968
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 6: to meet with the owner Jimmy has Them this week

1969
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 6: and Jimmy Haslam said, no, I'm good, you can go

1970
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 6: talk to the GM. So I think you got teams

1971
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 6: that are gonna be in the mix for Miles Garrett.

1972
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 6: We saw I think it was Dion Dawkins, Bill's left

1973
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 6: tackle said we're Miles Garrett away from the super Bowl.

1974
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 4: Baby. Hard to argue with that.

1975
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 6: If they got the production from Von Miller in that defense,

1976
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 6: maybe the Bills would be playing for the super Bowl

1977
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 6: instead of the Chiefs this year. But you get some

1978
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 6: really interesting dynamics setting up in Cleveland now, because I

1979
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 6: think Miles Garrett is a piece that a lot of

1980
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 6: teams are gonna be interested in. I know there's a

1981
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 6: Philly connection with the GM of Cleveland as well, and

1982
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 6: we know how aggressive Howie Roseman has been in recent years.

1983
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 6: So that is an interesting name for Miles Garrett. But

1984
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 6: how the Browns handled the Miles Garrett situation might impact

1985
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 6: the top of the draft because I think Abdell Carter,

1986
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 6: in my opinion, is the number one player in the draft,

1987
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 6: and I could see Garrett getting hipped out of town

1988
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 6: and come on down, Abdoll Carter, You're gonna be our

1989
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 6: next defensive end of the future. And then it's just

1990
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 6: what do they do at quarterback?

1991
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 4: So there's this is this is this little six.

1992
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 6: Week stretch here leading up to the draft where you

1993
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 6: don't want to believe what you hear, but you have

1994
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 6: to gain some kind of knowledge from the information that's

1995
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 6: being put out there. So you just trying to take

1996
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 6: little strands of it. And the quarterback carousel is just

1997
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 6: I mean, all eight of those teams Seahawks, Steelers, Vikings, Colts, Jets, Giants, Browns, Titans,

1998
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 6: all eight of those teams will be aggressive in the

1999
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 6: quarterback market over the next six weeks.

2000
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 3: I thought the Bills were maybe a Miles Garrett and

2001
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: the league not being fixed away from winning this.

2002
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the whole reason why, right, Yeah, you got

2003
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 6: to stop on that last drive where the Chiefs marks

2004
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 6: it down, the field scored, the game winning.

2005
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 2: You know driv Oh no, no, no, it's fixed here.

2006
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 4: It's totally fix fix.

2007
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,479
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2018
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Speaker 2: Pop up at the top of your screen.

2030
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Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got number six Saint John's at number

2031
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 3: twenty Marquette today and I just love watching the fluctuations

2032
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 3: in the market here. I'm just watching this on the

2033
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 3: bet MGM app, and it'll be Marquette minus three and

2034
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 3: a half. Now it's Marquette minus four and a half. Wow,

2035
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 3: it's minus you know, a dollar fifteen. Now it's a

2036
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 3: minus a dollar ten. Like it's just up, down, up down.

2037
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 3: Like the total is is ticked up a bit to

2038
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 3: minus one forty five. The over that's at a minus

2039
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 3: a dollar fifteen. So like it's just the money has

2040
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 3: been moving in this game. And something to keep in mind,

2041
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 3: both teams they get after it defensively. They rank first

2042
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 3: and second in the Big East in points allowed per game.

2043
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: You also have Saint John's, they're number two in the

2044
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 3: nation in defensive efficiency. So it's kind of interesting seeing

2045
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 3: the total tick up a bit when these are the

2046
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 3: top two teams defensively in the Big East.

2047
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 2: So what do you think, Rich, Are.

2048
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 3: We looking at a little bit of a rock fight

2049
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 3: to the tune of at least the under or do

2050
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: you see points being scored in this one?

2051
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 5: No, I think you nailed it the former instead of

2052
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 5: the ladder. I think Saint John's obviously they win on rebounds,

2053
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 5: they win as stoppers defensively, but Marquette has turned the

2054
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 5: ball over a ton like. In terms of defensively, they're good.

2055
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 5: They're good, fast hands against you know teams do overdribble.

2056
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:54,799
Speaker 5: They're they're really good at pickpocketing, shooting guards and getting

2057
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 5: in passing lanes. Uh, They're they're they're a talented defensive

2058
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 5: team as well. So you perfectly laid out this is

2059
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 5: gonna be a Big East battle. But it's gonna be

2060
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 5: one on the boards. It's gonna be one in effort.

2061
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 5: All the effort stats, the rebounding, the steals, the transition

2062
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 5: off of turnovers.

2063
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 4: That's how this game will be won.

2064
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 6: Big East Basketball, Baby, I love it.

2065
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 4: Saint John's.

2066
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 6: We need to really take a strong look at what

2067
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 6: Saint John's has done this year and where their tournament

2068
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 6: hopes might lie. I mean, you go back and look

2069
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 6: at their seasons. So they lost two games in the

2070
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 6: non con They lost to Baylor on a neutral in

2071
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 6: double overtime by a point. Baylor's a good team top

2072
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 6: thirty and ken Palm. They lost to Georgia on a

2073
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 6: neutral by a field goal three points, and George is

2074
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 6: a sneaky good SEC team. I honestly think George is

2075
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 6: a little undervalued in the SEC. They could be an

2076
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 6: interesting team come turney time. Then they lost two games

2077
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 6: in Big East play at Creighton by a point. And

2078
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 6: Omaha is no easy place to play unless you're Peyton Manning,

2079
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 6: I guess. And then they lost at Nova by two points.

2080
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 6: So if you take their four combined losses this year one, three, one,

2081
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 6: and two. I'm no math major, but that's four losses

2082
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 6: by a combined less than ten points. I mean, that

2083
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 6: is really really good work by Rick Patino in his

2084
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 6: first season at Saint John's. I mean, I am blown

2085
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 6: away or e shoose me the second season of Saint John's,

2086
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 6: I am blown away by what he's been able to

2087
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 6: do with I would say, a very limited offensive lineup,

2088
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 6: and it just kind of goes to show you how

2089
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 6: good of a coach he is to get the most

2090
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 6: out of these kids. Now, Candarry Richmond's a good offensive player.

2091
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 6: He kind of does a little bit of everything. But Luis, yeah,

2092
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 6: Elo four. I always get his name wrong, Ela floor

2093
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 6: EO four.

2094
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 4: Like these are.

2095
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 6: Bangers up front. They are, and it's tough to say

2096
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 6: their names, but they can play.

2097
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 3: Lewis he's really good offensively, he is. But that's the

2098
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 3: test with Saint John's or the question with Saint John's

2099
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 3: can they make shots? Can they make shots? Because if

2100
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 3: they can in the tournament, their defense and their rebu

2101
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 3: speaks for itself. But can they make enough shots? Even

2102
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 3: today on the road at Marquette, are they gonna be

2103
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 3: able to.

2104
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 2: Make enough shots?

2105
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 3: And that's why you're seeing the point spread move the

2106
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 3: way it is. That's why you're seeing Marquette as a

2107
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 3: four and a half point favorite against the number six

2108
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 3: team in the nation and the Johnny's right there. So

2109
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 3: that's the question, can you make shots? Especially on the road.

2110
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 3: I got a question for both of you guys. Are

2111
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 3: you more non con or rom com you know, like

2112
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 3: non conference or romantic comedies?

2113
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: Where do you get down on that exactly. They're rich.

2114
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 3: You like the comedies right there? Do you like non

2115
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:39,560
Speaker 3: conference more than comedies?

2116
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now. I like. I'm a comedy guy.

2117
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 5: I'm actually I'm actually hosting a this is a little

2118
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 5: bit off the beaten path, but I'm hosting morning radio

2119
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 5: show on a classic rock station as well these days.

2120
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 4: And I spoke with Harlan Williams, who's a common.

2121
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked to him before too. He's awesome.

2122
01:45:58,680 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 4: It's great.

2123
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 5: Is by the way, what you see, Yes, half Baked,

2124
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 5: he played the trooper who pulled over the shack and wacken.

2125
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 4: Remember he takes a swig of the beer. That wasn't beer, right?

2126
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 2: What was it?

2127
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 4: Was it?

2128
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 2: I forget?

2129
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 3: Like it was the ab workout right? Like he had

2130
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 3: a small part in another movie he was talking about.

2131
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 4: Along came uh no, was it something.

2132
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 2: About it about Mary?

2133
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2134
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah second abs or I forget what whatever the

2135
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 3: workout was?

2136
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2137
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, he played the serial killer that got picked up

2138
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 5: the hitchhiker. He was like, that's not eight minute ABBS

2139
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 5: seven seven As Harlem joined us on the show, and

2140
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 5: he was talking about how he's bringing back R rated

2141
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 5: comedies like, he's like, we're gonna go for it all.

2142
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 4: He's like, we're pitching it to streamers.

2143
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 5: So you may see this this this picture where he

2144
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 5: plays a demented wingman, as he described it. So, if

2145
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Speaker 5: you're asking me flat out what I'm more interested in,

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01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 5: it's comedies, you know, give me how.

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01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 3: About rom coms? Though romantic comedy is different than comedies.

2148
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 5: That's true. I'm also married man. Okay, So when when

2149
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 5: we're looking for the popcorn watch at the end of

2150
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 5: the night, like, you know, something that isn't going to

2151
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,440
Speaker 5: give bad dreams and good vibes.

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Speaker 4: You throw on a rom com? I mean who so?

2153
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 4: I mean we're so far away from college basketball.

2154
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:27,799
Speaker 2: Player, you know, it's like, is gonna give us nightmares?

2155
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: It's a rock fight, you know.

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01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, get a rock fighter too, It could be a

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01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 3: nightmare worthy. Hey, how about number two Duke at North Carolina?

2158
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah where the first go around this was all Duke,

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01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 3: that was at Cameron. This is on the road. So

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01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 3: North Carolina. Can they keep it within ten? Their offense

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01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 3: has been good, they've put up points. But against Duke.

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01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 3: That's the thing with Duke, man, they can score and

2163
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 3: they can prevent you from scoring like that's they have

2164
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 3: the best of both. They are not like all of

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01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 3: Bamble where they can run and gun, but they can't

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01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 3: play a lick of defense or some other team where

2167
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 3: they can get after it defensively and they.

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01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: Cannot shoot at all. Duke can do both.

2169
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 3: So the North Carolina's got their hands tied or full.

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01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 3: We're trying to at least keep this game close. They

2171
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 3: got visions of winning this thing, but it's gonna take

2172
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 3: a lot. Hey, last time we saw Duke lose, it

2173
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,560
Speaker 3: was on the road at Clemson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 3: I just North Carolina's not on Clemson's level. I just

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01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 3: I don't see North Carolina winning this game at all.

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Speaker 5: You got a Player of the Year contender with flag

2178
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 5: Duke absolutely boat race un ce first rattle out of

2179
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 5: the box. Different tar Heels team this time around. They'll

2180
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 5: be much tighter. But like you've laid out, I think

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01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 5: Duke is one of the pre eminent teams in the

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01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 5: nation this season. So, I mean, if there's a lean,

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01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,799
Speaker 5: it's it's the way of the Blue Devils today.

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01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not stepping in front of Duke right now. No,

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01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 6: I and the market is this thing got back down

2186
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 6: now under double digits. Awesome, North Carolina money at eleven eleven,

2187
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 6: ten and a half ten still now down to nine

2188
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 6: and a half. I don't like North Carolina's defense. They

2189
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 6: can't defend the Lick outside the top one hundred and

2190
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 6: Torvik's defensive ratings over the last month. I think the

2191
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 6: interesting question with Duke going forward. Oh, by the way,

2192
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 6: three teams in college basketball this year are perfectly balanced

2193
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 6: top ten in both Ken Pom offense Ken Pom defense.

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01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of them's Houston, one of.

2195
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 6: Them's Florida, surprisingly enough, Yeah, Gators are pretty dangerous. And

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01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 6: then the other one's Duke. I'll take it a step

2197
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 6: further with Duke. Duke is the only team in college

2198
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 6: basketball top five Ken Palm offense, Ken Bomb defense. I mean,

2199
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,600
Speaker 6: you can make the case that the market thinks so

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01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 6: Duke's the best team in the country. They're the favorite

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01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 6: right now to win the national championship. Obviously rivalry game,

2202
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 6: obviously on the road. It's interesting because Duke doesn't really

2203
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 6: have anything to play for it. They're gonna be a

2204
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 6: number one seed than the number one seed in the ACC.

2205
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 6: The only thing they have to play for is the

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01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 6: pride element just like Auburn today in a rivalry game.

2207
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 6: The different is Auburn is literally on field like they are,

2208
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 6: like if there was a marathon race, like Auburn is

2209
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 6: like crawling to their finish line, where like they they're

2210
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 6: cramping out there, but they got to get someone to

2211
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 6: you know, massage out their hammies there. Whereas Duke seems

2212
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 6: to be hitting their stride right now, playing some really

2213
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 6: really good basketball. I mean, listen to some of these

2214
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 6: scores over the last two weeks for Duke. They beat

2215
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 6: Illinois the Garden one ten, sixty seven. Illinois is a

2216
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 6: really good team. They beat purdueing home yesterday, scored a

2217
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:30,719
Speaker 6: bunch of points.

2218
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 4: They beat them.

2219
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 6: By forty Miami ninety seven to sixty down there in

2220
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 6: Coral Gables, Florida State one hundred to sixty five. And then, oh,

2221
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 6: by the way, they only beat Wake by thirty three

2222
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 6: at home on Monday, ninety three to sixty. I mean,

2223
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 6: these are obliterations. I am not stepping in front of

2224
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 6: the Duke train today.

2225
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 5: No, No, that's a top notch defense like you mentioned,

2226
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 5: And what a what a dangerous compliment to have such

2227
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 5: a devastating scorer like Flag and then on the opposite

2228
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 5: side of the court, have the type of ability on

2229
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 5: the glass and also just just shutting down players or

2230
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 5: I should say teams from where they're strongest. I mean,

2231
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 5: if you want to bang with them in the paint,

2232
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 5: good luck. If you want to try to, you know,

2233
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 5: shoot their eyes out from beyond the arc, good luck,

2234
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 5: because they're good perimeter defenders as well. Duke's a pretty

2235
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 5: complete team. They're a very complete team, and I like that.

2236
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 5: There are other teams that it feels like some tournament

2237
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:32,919
Speaker 5: time can contend with them. But this, this this matchup,

2238
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,839
Speaker 5: even though, like you said, Jared, you know, there's some

2239
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 5: some some shifting in the force, there's disturbances in the

2240
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 5: force toward the tar heels.

2241
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:48,520
Speaker 6: It's all yeah, great Admiral Lackbar reference, great reference.

2242
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: You can throw out stats for days.

2243
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 3: But Duke, they score just over eighty points per game

2244
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 3: and they limit their opponents to fewer than sixty two

2245
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 3: points per game. Man, they are the only team in

2246
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 3: Division one that can claim that that's it, that's the list.

2247
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 2: It's Duke.

2248
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 3: So I think the really interesting matchup is Duke's defense

2249
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 3: against North Carolina's offenseuse North Carolina's at home. They've had

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01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 3: some good offensive games. They've put up points. You know,

2251
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 3: from a betting perspective, you're like, Okay, we're over forty

2252
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 3: points in the first half, we're over eighty points for

2253
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 3: the game. That's just cash cash, you know, if you're

2254
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 3: playing the over so they can put up points. I

2255
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna be scoring a lot against Duke, though,

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01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 3: that's the matchup to watch. By the way, Can I

2257
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 3: throw out a football stat at you guys?

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01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2259
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: That blew my mind today.

2260
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 3: So there was a promo playing during our show from

2261
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 3: Ben Maller and Ben Mahler mentioned Leslie O'Neil, the old

2262
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 3: defensive end, most notably for the Chargers.

2263
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 2: And I just looked up.

2264
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what old Leslie O'Neill do in

2265
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 3: his career statistically?

2266
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,799
Speaker 2: You know how many sacks? Where does he rank?

2267
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 3: And this my mind? Do you realize that Leslie O'Neill

2268
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 3: had one hundred thirty two and a half sacks in

2269
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:11,799
Speaker 3: his career, which is the exact same number as Lawrence Taylor.

2270
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 4: That's right?

2271
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 3: How about that man LT and Leslie O'Neil on the

2272
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 3: nose in terms of official sacks? There's an unofficial leader

2273
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 3: board as well, but the official sacks leaders they're tied

2274
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 3: for fourteenth in the history of the NFL. Leslie O'Neill

2275
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 3: and LT at a buck thirty two and a half.

2276
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 3: That I was like, Wow, I didn't realize Leslie was

2277
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 3: doing work like that to an LT level.

2278
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: That's insane right there. So yeah, we did share that

2279
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: with it.

2280
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 4: It is.

2281
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 5: It is a little shocking, and it goes a long

2282
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 5: way to prove the point we were discussing a little

2283
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 5: bit earlier on about a player like Trey Hendrickson. You

2284
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 5: know this league, and you know what all sports leagues,

2285
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 5: all sports leagues are like this. You have greats and

2286
01:53:56,120 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 5: you have stars. Lawrence Taylor was a star, absolutely, Leslie

2287
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 5: O'Neill was great, And I'm not diminishing O'Neill for what

2288
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 5: he was to the league or what he did during

2289
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 5: his career, an outstanding career, but he wasn't a star.

2290
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 5: There's a difference. Lebron James is a star. Jokich is great,

2291
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Kawhi Leonard is a great.

2292
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,799
Speaker 5: There there are contemporary versions of this in every league.

2293
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 4: It just it and and.

2294
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 5: There's a promotional vehicle behind certain players and we're aware

2295
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 5: of that. But yeah, that is a stunning statistic. You

2296
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 5: just you just dug up there. That's pretty cool.

2297
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's true. Rich, Right, there's a wow factor.

2298
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 3: You know that there was a wow factor with lt

2299
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 3: that there wasn't there with with Leslie O'Neil, even though

2300
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Leslie was fantastic at his gig. But that's where you

2301
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 3: bring it to modern day Trey Hendrickson. You're right, that's

2302
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 3: he is fantastic, but he doesn't have the wow factor.

2303
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 3: And I unfortunately, I think that's why the Bengals are

2304
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 3: gonna screw this up and they're they're looking to move him.

2305
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 3: I think that's a mistake. Hey, shortly after the show,

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Speaker 3: the air. We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State, All American.

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01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 3: He'll blow towards some pork shoulder. He goes rom com

2314
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 3: over non con We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analysts.

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01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 3: You go non con over rom com Do you not, Jared?

2316
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 4: I do? Do you want to hear it?

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01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 6: Really crazy nugget because I'm because like usually UNC Duke

2318
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 6: is ranked versus ranked. The ACC is not how to

2319
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 6: rank versus rank conference game all season.

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01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 3: Wow, that's insane right there, That's that's crazy.

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01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 4: All right?

2322
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm Brian. No, I'll go non con over run there.

2323
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 4: Why not?

2324
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 3: Coming up next, rappid Fire, Three selections of Peace, we

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2327
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Speaker 3: be me if you can tell by my voice.

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Speaker 3: Rocking the Digital. That'd be our guy. Sager posts our

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Speaker 3: clips on social media. Does a great job coming up

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01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 3: top of the out. LaVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman, Zada, Plexico,

2344
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Speaker 3: away here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we got

2346
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 3: some picks to make. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

2348
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: Alrighty, Jared, we start with you.

2349
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 4: What do you like.

2350
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 6: Let's start in the mid major ranks Furman and Sanford.

2351
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go over one fifty five and a half.

2352
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 6: This is the Southern Conference quarterfinals down there in Smashville,

2353
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 6: North Carolina. High variance game. Both teams love to shoot

2354
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 6: the three, top thirty five and three point right this year.

2355
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 6: I think the winner of this game is actually very

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01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 6: live to upset the number one seed Chattanooga in the

2357
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 6: next round. But I think you're just gonna see points,

2358
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 6: very appealing offensive game. Over one fifty five and a half.

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01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 6: Ferman in Sanford, I'm going you mass Lowell plus one

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01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 6: and a half at Maine. What the heck conference is

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01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 6: this the America East Quarterfinals.

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01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 4: These teams have played twice this year.

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01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 6: Main won both games by one point each game eighty six,

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01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 6: eighty five and zero time in January and seventy one

2365
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 6: to seventy just four days ago. I think the Riverhawks,

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01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 6: who were actually took second preseason to win this conference,

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01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 6: have a pretty decent shot that I only win this game,

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01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 6: but also move on to the next round and perhaps

2369
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 6: to be for the championship. I'm going you mass Lowl

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01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 6: plus one and a half at Maine. Finally the main event,

2371
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 6: I will go Alabama plus eight and a half. The

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 6: market's moving against the Tide this morning. They are at

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01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 6: Auburn today the Eyebob Iron Bowl of Basketball road revenge

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01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 6: spot Brooman Jones banged up for Auburn. Alabama heavily relying

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01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 6: on the three, but I think they make enough here

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01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 6: to keep things close. Auburn's gonna be the number one

2377
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 6: overall seed no matter what happens this week and next week.

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01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 6: Give me Bama plus eight and a half.

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01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 5: Okay, my turn had a two to one week last week.

2380
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just pick up where Jared left off there.

2381
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 5: I think the first time in the Eyebob the Iron

2382
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 5: Bowl of Basketball, we saw Alabama just have a cold

2383
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 5: night shooting. I like the plus eight and a half

2384
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 5: they're getting here against Auburn, a very complete team, but

2385
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 5: I think a better shooting night for the Crimson Tide.

2386
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 5: Staying college basketball Saint John's Marquette I called it earlier

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01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 5: rock fight one forty four and a half.

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01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 4: I believe this is the total. Give me the under there.

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01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 5: Both teams big on the effort categories, big on the

2390
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 5: defensive stats. I'm big on the under today, Duke, You

2391
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 5: and Ce Duke. Last time around boat race the tar

2392
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 5: Heels by seventeen. I'm thinking the same thing happens here, Duke.

2393
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 5: They are just sharpening the clause for the tournament. I

2394
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 5: like them Minus nine and a half was last I

2395
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 5: looked at this spread. I think I would take them

2396
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 5: up to ten and a half. So nine and a

2397
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 5: half favorites. Duke, give me the Blue Devils.

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01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let me start with an over here.

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01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Kentucky and Missouri over one seventy and

2400
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 3: a half. You're looking at two of the top seven

2401
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 3: scoring teams in the country. So I'm looking at points today,

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01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 3: we're scoring them, and then the dogs are barking for me.

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02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm with Alabama plus eight and a half. You know,

2404
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 3: we get the three point shooting is gonna be better

2405
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 3: than five for twenty six like it was last game.

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02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 3: Auburn has been on fumes, you know, so I think

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02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 3: keeping it with an eight Crimson Tide are more than

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02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 3: capable of doing that.

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02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,640
Speaker 2: And then I'll go to the NBA.

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Speaker 4: Give me the.

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02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 3: Pistons at the Warriors Detroit plus six and a half.

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02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 3: They've been playing feisty basketball over there, and hey, shout

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02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 3: out to Chris Burfett in Pride of Detroit podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know, Detroit, Maybe what's going on here