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Right. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.440 You use in some ways you are what's your electorate? 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.080 You know, you tell me you're electorate, and no, I'll 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.000 tell you your position on this shutdown. Right, And if 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.080 you're electorate, if it's an electorate where you're more worried 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.880 about the general the swing voter, you were probably on 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:01.840 the side of figuring out how to do a pause 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.880 in the shutdown. And if you were somebody who's got 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.760 to worry more about a primary voter, then you were 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:13.360 going to be emphatic against cutting this deal. And I 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.600 think the reaction is a reminder that this was not 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:20.600 about healthcare right. This was about taking on, finally confronting 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.760 Trump on something right. And the party Democratic Party hadn't 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:29.640 done any decent confrontation really. A few governors had in 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.320 trying to fight back on national Guard efforts and things 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.639 like that, but there hadn't been a real showdown between 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:43.280 the party and Trump, and the shutdown provided that. And politically, 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.520 in the last forty days, it energized the base of 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.120 the Democratic Party and they felt good about that energy, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.000 and it because the elections went well last week, it 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.480 could it seemed to provide the confirmation you know, a 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.640 sort of form of confirmation bias. Hey, this shutdown seems 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.760 to be working. Look at how well our candidates did. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:07.000 Why give up this idea now when at the end 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.679 of the day, you know, you know, things can turn 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.000 quickly if you're not careful. And already some pulling is 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.760 surfaced about how as this shutdown was impacting more and 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.600 more Americans, blame was starting to get shared more and 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.200 more between both parties. Yes, Republicans were taking the runt 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.600 of the blame yes, Mike Johnson and Donald Trump were 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:31.120 actually making it easier for Democrats to politically when the 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.840 shutdown by their own maneuvers and their own decision making there. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.960 But ultimately, as I've stated in a few other places 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.120 that I've spoken in the last forty eight hours, there 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.240 is a large chunk of voters in the middle who 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.560 don't pay attention to day to day massinations, but that 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.400 will pay attention when the proverbial government toilet is clogged, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.440 you know, and not being able to travel around Thanksgiving 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.240 at a time when we have almost no choice but 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.280 to use their airplanes in order to get where we 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.080 want to get in a short weekend was a way 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.600 that you were suddenly going to start impacting people that 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.360 don't normally pay attention to the day to day machinations, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.320 and that actually can become long term more politically damaging 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.880 than anything you think is going for you in the 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:22.320 short term. So that's my basic way to explain the 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.240 situation we're in. Now. What's funny here is leave it 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:29.200 to the Democrats that come across. As you know, they're 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:34.160 essentially divided over tactics. They're not divided over any issue. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.120 They all believe in this healthcare issue. They all believe 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.800 Trump needs to be confronted. They all believe they've got 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.760 to shift their messaging to cost of living issues. Right, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.919 So this is a party that is fighting over tactics. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.240 You know, do they have the right leaders? They probably don't. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.880 Just changing leaders change the debate on tactics. I don't 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.400 know if it really does, but I will say this, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.240 once you have lost the trust of the people you're 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.200 trying to lead, you probably ought to leave, right, you know. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.600 And and the best thing for the party would be 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.479 if Chuck Schumer went out on his own, not forcing 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.880 more groups to come out calling for his resignation and 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:17.000 all this stuff. But ultimately, I don't know if it changes. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:22.240 You know, you're still going to have a leader that's 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.200 got to be thinking about, Hey, there's the base wants 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.200 one thing, but you still got to appeal to swing 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.560 voters if you actually want to win enough seats to 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.560 actually be in charge of governing something. So I think 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.000 that tension would exist whether it was Schumer, whether Brian 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.039 Schatz is there, whether it's Chris Murphy, whether it's Amy Klobashar, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.599 whether it's Patty Murray. Right, we could come up you know, 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.320 and I think if you know, this is one of 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.039 those moments where if Schumer just decided in the next 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.440 week to sort of, you know what, all right, you know, 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.440 I'm not wanted here, I'll take a step back. My 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.000 gut is Patty Murray would replace him because she'd be 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.840 seen as a quote unquote caretaker majority leader. She's at 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.080 this point the senior most member of the Democratic Senate 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.720 and nobody would cross her right and she really has 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.200 the respect of sort of all wings of the party. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.760 I think she'd be seeing the original mom and tennis shoes, 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.320 you know, as she ran as a sort of a 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.520 populist candidate of her day in nineteen ninety two when 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.200 she first came on the national scene. I think she 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.119 would be seen as somebody that would would be less 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.160 of a public face for the party. And in some 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.200 ways I think many Senators wouldn't mind that and would 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:38.080 likely embrace that. But let's be realistic. You may not 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:43.800 see any change in the short term. To me. You know, 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.960 while it's easy to cover this tactical split inside the 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.159 Democratic Party because it's sort of easy to do, it's 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.200 easy to create a cable news segment on it. It's 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.960 easy to find people to criticize, you know, it's sort 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:01.159 of an easy debate to have. It's not really that 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.320 big of a divide because it's not over some sort 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.960 of fundamental ideology ideological disagreement, you know, where for instance, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.600 like things with Mom Donnie, those are fundamental ideological disagreements 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.880 about you know, how involved government should be in the economy. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.680 That's that's a larger divide that I think doesn't really 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.920 get dealt with in the Democratic Party until the presidential 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:27.560 primaries take shape. But I tell you, even as everybody's 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.160 focused on the dem divide here, don't take your eye 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.760 off the ball of a growing Republican divide. I think 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.800 that is coming. I think that right now, if you're 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.600 a Republican elected official in Congress, you should You're trying 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.480 to figure out what do I do when the leader 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:50.720 of the party is not accepting reality. And Donald Trump's 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.640 inability to accept the reality that this economy sucks for 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.480 a lot of his supporters is going to cause a 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.720 much bigger problem for the Publican Party than anything the 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.880 Democratic Party is going through at the moment, because ultimately, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.360 because they're in the minority and because they're in the opposition, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.840 you know, I mean, they're going to have a unity 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.520 of message, They're going to have a unity of focus. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.680 They may disagree on how to deal with Trump in 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.880 the moment, but they're not going to disagree on how 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:24.280 to court the voters in twenty twenty six. That's a 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.280 divide that I think that is not the case on 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:31.320 the Republican side of the aisle. As this economy weakens 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.080 for those without money and essentially with those about real savings. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.800 And that's what we're seeing here right This is a 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.400 this is the very definition of a trickle down economy 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.000 where Donald Trump is hoping that the bang, the stock 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.080 market success is going to somehow trickle down and help 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.959 everybody else. There's not a lot of evidence that that 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.280 ever works. You can just go back one hundred years 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.040 and see how that worked out. The last time we 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.679 sort of tried to put together an economy where government 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.360 and big business fused itself together like it did in 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.439 the in the early parts of the industrial and the 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.960 industrial age. That didn't end well. We got a great 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.360 depression and then finally government decided, the people decided, hey, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.320 they wanted government, they wanted more guard rails on big business, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.360 more guardrails on the economy than what we had at 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.439 the time, and I have a feeling we're going to 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.000 end up in a similar situation where we're going to 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.800 have a downturn caused by what we're seeing, this fusion 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.679 of big tech and government, and that is going to 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.120 awake awoke in a bunch of people who are going 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:42.760 to want more guardrails put on our economy, necessarily leaving capitalism, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.840 but something more akin to what the two Roosevelts fought for, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.160 both Teddy and Franklin in their in their very different ways. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.199 But I did get a lot of questions on the shutdown, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.560 so I decided that before we get to the interview 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.719 that I would answer all the shutdown related q and 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.720 as in this part of the podcast, we'll have our 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.480 individual will it then I'll do my top five list 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.840 this week. It's where the top five Senate seats most 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.240 likely to flip. It's let's just say the top five 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.200 has changed. Just like in college football, what the top 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.199 five was at the beginning of October is a lot 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:22.960 different than what the top five is at the beginning 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.080 of November. So goes my list of top five most 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.600 likely most vulnerable Senate seats in twenty twenty six. But 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.560 before we get to all that, and I'll do some 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.720 q and as on other topics that were not shutdown related. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.679 So we'll begin with this. This comes from Tim, and 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.400 he asks, I don't understand why the Democrats are being 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.400 blamed for the shutdown. If the Speaker will not convene 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.480 the House, how can the Dems vote against it? Also, 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.439 if the Republicans control the House, why can't they just 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.760 vote to pass it? I think too many times that reporter. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.400 Too many times reporters assume that people know the cause 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.120 of the most basic facts about an issue, or maybe 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.120 this was reported the beginning of the shutdown, so they 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:00.800 don't need to read it those facts. I think it 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.160 has helpful to remind people periodically of those basic facts. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.520 Thanks Tim, Tim, you're absolutely right. This is a pet 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:11.600 peeve of mine. I talk about this two new journalists 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.440 or those folks in journalism school where I remind people, 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.440 because I learned this from interacting with viewers during my 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.760 time at Meet the Press. Is how often a viewer, 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.480 particularly a first generation American, would come up to me 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.160 and say that they watched Meet the Press to sort 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.280 of understand how the American government works. And every time 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.480 I would get a response like that, it would remind 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.480 me that, hey, we're in the education business first, right, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.400 that's first and foremost what a journalist is. They're educating 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:43.880 the public, and we shouldn't forget that. And you know, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.560 I had a viewer one time, I think it was 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.360 somebody on social media one time respond you know, somebody 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.760 was lamenting the fact that people didn't know that there 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.839 were nine members of the Supreme Court or how all 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.480 that worked. Somebody said, how often do you put it 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.360 in your stories? And I thought, you know, that person's right. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:07.199 We sometimes don't reiterate basic facts about government because we 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.520 go through this well, people already know that, or the 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.959 people that are paying attention to this story are already 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.760 going to know those things. And you're like, well, what 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.200 about the Joe demage. You know, there was a great 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.800 saying by Joe Demaggio. He used to say he played 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.280 hard every game because he thought that there might be 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.040 somebody in the stands who was coming to see him 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:29.800 for the very first time. And guess what, there's somebody 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.720 reading your story. There's somebody listening to my podcast, there's 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.360 somebody you know, reading your commentary for the very first time, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.200 and if they don't understand it, they're not going to 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.480 read you again, right, or they may not be as 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.319 they may not follow the topic you're trying to get 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.640 them to follow because you didn't help them understand how 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:55.560 it works. So I look, I believe in this. You know, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.440 I look at my college football writers. They spend a 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.760 lot of time explaining how the college football playoff works. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.480 So college football fans all know how the college football 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.680 playoff works. But it's not because they went out to 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.560 look for it. It's because the new stories and the 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.439 news commentators and ESPN in particular constantly wants to remind 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.080 people how it works. Now they have an incentive, they're 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.680 trying to make a bigger deal out of it. Well, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.360 we ought to take that same premise there. So you're 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.200 asking why did the Democrats get why should the Democrats 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.239 get blaim to their shutdown? Well, it was technically Democrats 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.640 that withheld just enough votes where the continuing Resolution to 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.600 keep the government open couldn't pass the Senate. Now in 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.240 the House, Mike Johnson got a party line vote and 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.840 he passed the continuing Resolution in the House. So what 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.000 they did is he passed that bill and then they 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.880 want to This is a case where the House wanted 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.480 to jam the Senate and they didn't want to. And 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.240 his thesis was, I'm not even going to come. I'm 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.800 not going to convene the House until the Senate deals 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.360 with the bill that we gave them, and we gave 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.560 him a bill to keep the government open. It's up 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.880 to them to get that bill passed. So this is 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.559 the whole the House passed its version. So no, you're right, 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.920 the House didn't didn't convene while the government was shut down. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:15.240 But what Johnson's thesis was they didn't need to because 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.679 there was no legislation. Now why else did he keep 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.920 him out, Well because he didn't want his members, you know, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.040 board showing up on cable TV saying things that would 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.160 cause them political pain, etc. Etc. But it was also 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.440 a tactic, and this is something that happens. You know, 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.240 there's always a joke in Congress that you know that 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.280 the real divide in Congress is not Democrats versus Republicans, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.160 it's the House versus the Senate. And so you know, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.720 the House was essentially jamming the Senate and jamming John Thune. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.960 So it's up to John Thune, who had fifty three 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.680 Republican senators, actually fifty two because Rand Paul indicated he 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.080 was going to vote against this deal, he had to 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.880 go find eight Democrats. So in that sense, this is 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:00.960 why in theory, because it needed sixty votes when Democrats 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:06.120 withheld their votes. Unless the Republicans are willing to get 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.000 rid of the filibuster, which was something Donald Trump talked about, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:14.080 then the only way the government could get reopened is 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.120 if eight Democrats joined fifty two Republicans to reopen the government. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:23.920 So I think what you're right about is every time 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.720 that the story was reported that would not be explained 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.200 at the top, And I think it's a bad habit 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.520 professional journalists, particularly Washington journalists, have come. I always say 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.160 that a lot of times Washington reports for Washington or 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.800 producers produce segments for producers. They don't think about sort 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.320 of are we educating somebody who's tuning in for the 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.320 very first time, And you know, in that sense, I 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.800 think that's something that we all need to do better on. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.480 In this way, I love the podcast format where I 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.240 can feel like I'm not I don't have some sort 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.960 of time constraint where I have to take a shortcut 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.040 on something because the main thing I need to convey 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.520 needs a certain amount of time to explain, and I 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.960 don't want to take away from that by having to 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.760 explain the basics and yet not explaining the basics all 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.960 the time. Is what makes politics inaccessible to people. And 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.840 I've always said my real goal, and I've had this 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.480 goal ever since I entered journalism is and political journalism is. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.080 I love politics, and my job is to explain it 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.440 in such a way that it's more accessible to people. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.960 You know, there was another person who used to go 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.240 out of his way to talk about the Gang of 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.720 five hundred and made politics inaccessible and would claim that 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.960 politics was an exclusive club and only those in the 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.160 know understood it. 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Likewise, all of the conservative 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.200 political commentators believe they somehow won the shutdown fight, assuming 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.719 no last minute silliness by Senator Ran Paul. Yet all 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.800 of the more moderate political commentators seemed to paint a 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.480 vastly different picture as to who won and lost, and 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.840 most seem to think Democrats got most out of the shutdown. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:47.840 So this brings up a good question, how do you 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.640 win a shutdown fight? How do you know who won 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.800 the shutdown fight? Can you even win a shutdown fight? 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.600 Or is it really just a lose lose lose for 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.480 everyone involved? Or at the end of the day, is 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.600 who won or lost a shutdown? All just vibes and 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.320 fuzzy feelings? Anyway? To me, it kind of feels like 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.359 the old whose line is at any Way? TV? Show? 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.400 Everything is made up and the points don't seem to matter. Well, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.520 look this is you know, if you really want to 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:14.760 wind me up, The entire shutdown process is a manufactured 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:19.360 political circus. The idea that the that the most important 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:25.480 government on the face of the earth has a has 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.240 a bug in it that allows for parts of the 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.359 government to just simply shut down when there is a 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:36.520 political dispute over funding levels. Is got to be one 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.639 of the dumber things anybody does. The idea that you know, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.320 I just think that the legal interpretations and I went 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.240 through this for those of you that wanted to go off, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.359 you know, I am, but let me just tell you, 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.479 I am furious that there is not a single effing 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.359 member of Congress in the center of the House that 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.960 is rallying around the idea that we need to prevent 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.439 shutdowns from ever happening again. It is absurd that we 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.680 are hiring people to be air traffic controllers and part 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.359 of the process is, hey, you know, every couple of 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.359 years there's going to be a political fight and you're 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.880 not going to get paid for about a month or two. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.479 Are you okay with that? What kind of circus are 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:21.600 we running here? I mean, that's just you know, deciding 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:27.040 to run to intentionally create a shit show government. It's stupid, 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:33.400 it's unnecessary, and it shouldn't be. It's dumb, it's it's 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.080 and it all the only people that benefit from a 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.240 shutdown are elected officials who are trying to make a 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.959 name for themselves. You ask who wins in a shutdown, 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:48.119 Individuals win, No party wins. Nobody likes the result of 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.639 the shutdown at the end of the day, everybody collectively 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.120 hates the process of it, right, But the winners are individuals. 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.119 You know, Ted Cruz, you know. So take the twenty 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:04.720 thirteen shutdown. Republicans quote unquote are seen as having lost 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.880 that shutdown, right because politically they did. If it wasn't 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.160 for the shutdown, Republicans would have won a governor seat 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.800 in Virginia that year, and instead Democrats won the governor seat. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.040 So you could look at just sort of the tactics 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.480 and say, up, Republicans lost, and Ted Cruise was unpavable. 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.919 Yet Ted Cruz built a political following. Ted Cruz was 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.560 trying to run for president in twenty sixteen and build 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.760 a national following. So it worked for Ted Cruz. And 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.680 that's who these shutdowns are for. They're for partisan actors, 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.280 pure and simple, to try to make a name for themselves. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.840 That's so the only people that have ever come out 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.080 quote unquote ahead. Right. It becomes about who can raise 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.280 the most money off of the silliness of the shutdown. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.200 And I'm sorry, I just think the idea that it's 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:55.920 a practice that is somehow allowed and the only the 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.080 only reason to have it is to figure out a 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.400 way to bring more at time tention to a funding dispute. 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:08.080 Guess what, perhaps we shouldn't put three hundred and fifty 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:15.560 million people in the crosshairs of a political disagreement over 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:21.680 funding levels. That seems like a waste of a superpower's time. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.240 It actually makes us more vulnerable as a nation on 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:30.760 national security. It is certainly a huge sign of weakness. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:36.520 And again there's you know, so a responsible democracy and 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:40.919 a responsible government wouldn't put put us in a situation 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:44.840 where we can just easily have a couple of people 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.159 decide that the government is just going to close its doors. 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.879