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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this edition of big Fish Small

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Speaker 1: Pod for August Verse twoenty twenty three, a special trade

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Speaker 1: deadline edition of big Fish Small Pod.

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Speaker 2: As always, the pod will.

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Speaker 1: Be ten minutes or less here on big Fish Small Pod,

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Speaker 1: where you get you the information daily on the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: and of course, as it is August first, recording from

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Speaker 1: July thirty first deadline is today as you are hearing this,

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Speaker 1: the Marlins have made moves for Jorge Lopez and David Robertson,

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Speaker 1: which cut most of Marlin's fan base to surprise with

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Speaker 1: that one. But as always I'm here to give you information,

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Speaker 1: and for this one, we're going to be doing a

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Speaker 1: special prediction deadline edition a big Fish Small Pod with

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Speaker 1: myself and a special guest, Kevin Ball. Always happy to

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Speaker 1: join on. Kevin, how are you feeling about the deadline.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited, you know. I mean, we're just a little

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Speaker 4: bit over twenty four hours away from the trade deadline

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Speaker 4: and I'm excited though.

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Speaker 1: All right, So for this special edition, we'll be doing

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Speaker 1: a prediction episode. Kevin and I will give you three

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Speaker 1: predictions in terms of players that could be traded to

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Speaker 1: the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Will be giving you one hitter, one batter, and one.

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Speaker 1: Big name that may might not might not happen, but

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Speaker 1: a big name that could potentially be coming down to

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Speaker 1: the Marlins. So first, let's start off with batters, because

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably in most hights and for

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Speaker 1: most teams that are wanting to buy their just so

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Speaker 1: limited amount of players, teams are willing to sell on batters.

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Speaker 1: But Kevin, what's your prediction on the batter?

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Speaker 4: Coming to my head, it's a good one. It's a

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Speaker 4: really good one, Danny. When you look at the bats

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Speaker 4: right now, there's not much on the market. It's a

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Speaker 4: seller's market. I think that's the first thing that really

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Speaker 4: needs to be identified here. This is a seller's market,

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Speaker 4: not good for Miami whatsoever. I think the way to

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Speaker 4: put it is that I think Miami's gonna go out

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Speaker 4: there and get Jammer Candelario. I think that is going

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Speaker 4: to be the first move that Miami makes. I think

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Speaker 4: that's the bat that they will acquire. I really can't

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Speaker 4: think of another name right now on on that national

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Speaker 4: scene that I would like, aside from maybe Lane Thomas.

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Speaker 4: But really it feels the need at third you're getting

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Speaker 4: JIMSI girls some days off and if you really really

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Speaker 4: need it, Condo Laario could also play first base, So

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Speaker 4: that's another option there. I think that's that's that that

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Speaker 4: push for Condo Lario, and obviously I think that's just

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Speaker 4: what they end up with. You may have to give

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Speaker 4: up a good prospect or too, but you're getting a

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Speaker 4: really nice bad that's going to solidify kind of that

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Speaker 4: middle to the lower part of the order, depending where

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think they go out there and get

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Speaker 3: Condo Lauio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I was the same way that when I when

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Speaker 1: came to mind was Conde Laudio and how well he's

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Speaker 1: been playing on the Nationals. I've just been tearing the ball.

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Speaker 1: I believe he has close to fifteen home runs. He

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Speaker 1: had I believe a two rbi DA the other day.

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Speaker 2: Has just been unstoppable for the Nationals.

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Speaker 1: A little surprising that he's even on a one year

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Speaker 1: deal and was let go by the Tigers, I believe.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he'll fit perfectly with the Marlands.

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Speaker 1: Has multi position flexibility, complete third can play second, and

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Speaker 1: I believe we even saw him play first in the

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic, So that's another possible position if you

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Speaker 1: want to put him in there. Gave some guys some

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Speaker 1: with Kevin with high Mayer Condellaio.

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Speaker 2: But we go from there, We're gonna go to.

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Speaker 1: Pittroots, which is probably when most people want to hear,

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Speaker 1: and one that has the options are almost seemingly almost

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Speaker 2: I should say that as recording.

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Speaker 1: Max Sure's are traded, Jordan Montgomery traded, Jordan Hicks traded,

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Speaker 1: Guys like that have been traded. I'll start off, keep

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Speaker 1: your starting sweet. I think Michael Lorenzen will be a Marlin.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the almost perfect guy to come here.

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Speaker 1: Can eat innings, and not just eat innings, but quality innings.

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Speaker 1: We've seen do it with Detroit and a team like that.

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Speaker 1: Imagine here with the Marlins. I think that's the perfect

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be Lorenz and some Miami obviously,

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Speaker 4: We've seen the reports that they've had interest, and it

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Speaker 4: makes all the sense in the world, to be honest

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Speaker 4: with you, Danny, these guys who's gonna help you be

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Speaker 4: He's been really damn good in the month of July.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's still I still don't think he's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's Michael Lorenz And I really

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Speaker 4: can't think of another name right now.

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Speaker 4: I know. Aaron Savali is the name that I think

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Speaker 3: So that's the other name I could really think of

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Speaker 4: If you're really desperate, and let's say you trade for

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Speaker 4: I think a nice name I would really like to

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Speaker 4: fire out there is Paul Blackburn of the Oakland A's

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Speaker 4: I think that makes a lot of sense for Miami,

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Speaker 4: just depending on what happens with the pitching market there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you.

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Speaker 1: Want to hear a different name when the Quick and

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Speaker 1: another one bean Jack Flattery. I think there's another guy

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Speaker 1: with just a big name out there. I'll say to

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Speaker 1: has been linked to Oscar Hernandez in the past. They

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Speaker 1: Hernandez could really improve the lineup, help especially in the

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Speaker 1: I think the Oscar, you know, having a down year

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Speaker 1: the deadline. You keV, what's your what's your big left

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Speaker 4: That's a good one, man, Because I'm not gonna say Berlander,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's getting moved.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I will go.

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Speaker 4: Out and say that they will acquire if we have

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Speaker 4: to put a big I will say they will get

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Speaker 4: Juan Soto. I Grant has convinced me enough to the

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Speaker 4: point where I think Juan Sota will become a Marlin.

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Speaker 4: You headline that package with Jazz Hazu Sanchez, Man, I

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Speaker 3: Sense in the world to make that type of a

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Speaker 4: So, and I mean, if you bring Juan Soto in there,

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Speaker 4: it's the form is gonna lose, but and also your

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Speaker 4: Juan Sota makes a lot of sense for Miami.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's our great names. Uh, can have

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Speaker 1: you really think Juan Soto. Let's say Juan Sota does come?

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Speaker 2: What are you giving up?

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Speaker 1: What's the what's the what's what's the capital?

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Speaker 2: The prospect capital were giving up? You're giving away?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's not even prospect capital. I think you

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Speaker 4: also have to give up big league talent. It starts

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Speaker 3: Those are just some names.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it's not I'm like, go, you know, you would

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Speaker 4: have to give up most of those names, but not

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Speaker 4: all of them. But those are obviously the names that

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Speaker 4: I would You would assume San Diego's looking at when

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Speaker 4: it comes to Kuan Soda.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 1: Think, uh, those are really great names. So you heard us,

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Speaker 1: you heard Tasker. Hernandez as the big name for me.

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Speaker 1: Kevin and I both agree on Michael Lorenzen and Himrik Kandeladio.

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Speaker 1: But don't but don't sell off Potten to another Detroit Tiger.

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Speaker 1: You could see Road Rodriguez. He has an opt out

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. If not another three

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's gonna be an interesting twenty four I

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Speaker 1: we can guarantee this. This will guarantee that the Marlin

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Speaker 1: will be a different come August. Second, keV, what's your

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Speaker 2: One to ten? As well? We sign off here and.

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Speaker 4: Then I think this is the time where we really

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Speaker 4: tor to refresh Twitter a lot. I think I've been

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Speaker 4: doing that. I think I did that yesterday. We're recording

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Speaker 4: this on Monday. I did that all throughout the whole

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Speaker 4: spaces yesterday, stated the Fish. It was me refreshing Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, but you know I'm saying this

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Speaker 4: now Monday. I think my minis are trade today. So

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Speaker 4: maybe the next time we're talking, either it's.

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Speaker 1: On stream or yeah, you enough spaces.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna be really interesting. Four games stretch

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Speaker 2: now against the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: We'll have coverage and every single game we'll have people

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Speaker 1: there on deadline. The day after and the day after

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Speaker 1: that is pointing stretch against the Phils. For myself, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: for Kevin, this is big fish, small pod, always go fish.