WEBVTT - Exclusive: Peter Weber Tell All 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.000 Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.399 home office in Austin, Texas. We are excited to team 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.760 up for today's interview because we both know and genuinely 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:19.759 like this guest so much that we wanted to do 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:24.040 this together. It is Pilot Pete Day. Peter Webber, who 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:28.720 is on Hannah Brown's season of the Bachelorette. Left broken hearted, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.360 but then he became the star of his own show. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.400 He was our bachelor and ended kind of well. Didn't 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:37.960 go well, ended well. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.600 From an entertaining perspective, great television, didn't end great for Peter. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.080 To refresh your memory, this was Madison, Pruett, Hannah and 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.599 sless Kelly Flanagan was involved and it all kind of 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.960 crash landed. I hate to say, but Peter is doing 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.680 so well and we're so excited to talk to him. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.360 Peter Weber joins us now. And it has been too 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.800 long since I have seen you, my friend. How have 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:03.160 you been? 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.720 I've been good man, it has it's been it's been 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.320 a minute. I think what was the last time is 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.760 when you were moving out of out of West Westlake. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.920 Yeah, I mean that was Oh my gosh, you came 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.080 over with Kelly flanagain. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:16.960 Oh my god. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.760 Yes, I forgot about that. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.600 We had a glass of wine on our back patio. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.600 It was Lauren and I and you and Kelly. You 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.360 guys kind of came and hit out and we just 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.720 sat and had a nice bottle of wine, and yeah, 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.120 that was the last time we saw you. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.040 Do you remember when I would I'd fly my drone 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:35.479 over to your house from my house. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.360 Yeah, do you remember that? We were like two kids. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.199 It was like so so people that don't know Peter 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.280 lives in this thing called first neighborhood. I lived in 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.200 this little neighborhood called the Trails. We were up in 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.760 Westlake Village. Actually, bizarrely, as the crow flies, probably five 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.440 miles from the Bachelor Mansion is where Peter grew up 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.680 and where I lived. And if you you could almost 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.160 hit a golf ball from my back deck to Peter's 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.200 house and he would fly his drone and so he 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.200 would call or text me and I would walk out 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.600 and there'd be a drone right off my deck. And 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.720 it was it was we were like two kids with 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.080 walkie talkies. It's almost my brother and I we had 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.080 the soup cans with the strings. It's like Peter Peter 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.480 hear me. So yeah, we were like eight year olds. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.320 I got I gotta find that because I recorded I 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.080 had that footage somewhere, so I gotta find that. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.360 I walked out there. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:26.600 It was it was really bizarre. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:27.560 Wow, were you naked? 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:28.959 I was buck gass naked. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.160 Yes, actually, we're not going to reveal that footage. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.799 But yeah, dude, so so not much has changed since 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:35.720 the last time we saw you. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.400 No, I mean a loe. Yeah, let's see. So I 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.080 was still living back. Yeah, I was living at home 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.240 and was like with my parents out there. I moved 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.600 out to UH to New York, New York City in 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.200 January of twenty one, and yeah, I've just been here 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.280 ever since. I had a little stint in Midtown East 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.600 and Upper East Side and now I'm in Flat Iron. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.600 Been out here for about a year. Just renew my lease. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.640 I'm gonna be here at least one more year, and 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.320 just living the dream man flying for United based out 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.079 of Newark on the seven eight, doing awesome flying out 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.280 to Europe, about to Asia, India, South Africa. So really 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.080 really enjoying that, yeah, and just enjoying living in city. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.120 But Peter, you're such a warm person. And I really 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.639 mean this. I was thinking about that because, by the way, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.760 will pandemic time like threw us all off. I don't 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.440 know it was years, but was it. It feels like 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.600 no time has passed. But I just still feel it 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.600 doesn't feel like it's been that long, like I was wishing. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.280 I was thinking today, I'm like, oh, yeah, well, I 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.800 forgot Peter couldn't come to the wedding. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.560 Was that because you were filming Traders? 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.920 No, And I was so close. I was in Dallas 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.600 for another wedding I had to go to. Yeah, it 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.600 was with my brother and I was so bummed because 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:44.840 we were so close to Austin. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.720 I know, I wish we'd seen you at the wedding, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.440 But it doesn't feel like it's been that long. But 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.560 I was watching you on Traders. I was telling Chris this, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.360 and by the way, I loved you on Traders. You 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:54.440 were so great. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.880 But I thank you. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.280 It was such a different Peter. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.760 I'm like, maybe it has been a couple of years, 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.040 because you seemed so grown up to me. You seemed 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.200 so so much more comfortable in your skin, you seemed lighter, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.600 Like do you feel quite different now than you did 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:11.320 a few years ago? 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.040 Absolutely? Yeah, totally. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.480 And I mean I think I owe a lot of 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.280 that to honest in my experience, like getting into reality 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.360 TV and all the experiences I've had with that obviously 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.040 from The Bachelor and then moving on to The Traders. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.560 I think a lot of that Also just moving to 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.760 New York City, you know, moving out. I lived at 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.320 home for a long time, so there's only, you know, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.040 only so much growth you can have until that does happen. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.279 But I've been, you know, super fortunate and and just 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.279 really enjoyed this time. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.000 And I've had a lot of time on my own. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.919 I've been by myself, you know a lot, and I 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:48.039 really never had, I guess, that opportunity until I came 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.920 to New York. So it's funny you say that, I've 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.360 heard that that kind of reception from a lot of people, 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.840 so I take it as a positive thing, and I 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.320 would tend to agree. But yeah, I think just a 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.320 lot of growth, for sure, has happened in the last 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:00.640 you know, a couple of years, for sure. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.680 Cutting that ambilical cord. There is something about safety and 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.680 something about just knowing that someone's there to take care 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.480 and whether it's your mom, dad, whatever, just you're at home, right. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.760 It's and it's the friendly confines of you grew up 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.120 in Westlake Village. You just know everything and it's safe. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.680 Growing when you were out on your own. Moving to 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:23.360 New York is obviously an extreme situation to be able 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.200 to grow and to kind of spread your wings, so 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.240 to speak. So it had to have been a good 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.680 thing for you and probably something you didn't even know 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.760 until you did it. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:31.200 It was great. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.960 Yeah, and listen, I definitely had you know, I think 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.520 obviously I probably lived at home probably a lot longer than. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.600 The average person. Mom. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.279 I forgot. Mom used to make breakfast for your dates. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.680 I forgot about that barb God, what an kind of television. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.839 I should have said, he cut the am barbical cord. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.120 No, it was. It was great. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.400 I mean, the good thing about when I was living 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.240 at home, though again, the nature of my job it 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.080 did afford me a lot of that independence. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.760 Still, I was gone at least half the. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.680 Month, you know, three quarters of the month just with 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.240 work in general, so I still had a little bit 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.880 of that independence. But yeah, I would definitely attribute just yeah, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.640 moving on and growing up, if you will, kind of 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.080 getting comfortable into your own skin. Definitely was the move 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.640 out here, and it's been great. I've made an insane 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.200 group of new friends, awesome community. I've been able to 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.320 surround myself with so many opportunities out in New York. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.440 This is I am obsessed with it out here. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.960 It's funny like I feel like a lot of people, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.880 either what I've learned, either hate New York or you 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.760 love it. There's no in between, right I'm the side 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.800 that I love it. I'm one of the only pilots 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.720 that I know that I fly with that's based out 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.000 of New York or New York that lives in the city. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.720 Everyone thinks I'm crazy for doing that, all my colleagues, 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.880 but for me, it's just this city. I feel like 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.040 I just I thrive in it. I love the energy 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.960 and specifically this year, I've been saying, I don't know 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:45.520 what it is about twenty four. This has been like 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.080 the best year yet and I really really feel good 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.400 about it and what's to come, and just in a 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.200 really really good good place right now for sure. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.000 Wow, look at and by the way I meant it 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.240 in the most complimentary way you want. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.920 I know, Wow, So how do you feel like you've changed? 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.240 Like, there was one thing you said on Traders at 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.800 one point I think you said, uh, this is so 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.600 much less stressful than the Bachelor. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:10.440 Well it was. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.760 So that made me wonder was Peter just super stressed 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.040 on the Bachelor or has he changed a lot since then? 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.160 Maybe it's both. How do you feel like you've changed totally? 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.920 So going back to that comment, I think, you know, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.560 I just I love to reflect and I and I 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.760 just think super deeply and I do a lot of that. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.320 But reflecting on my experience with The Bachelor, I I 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.840 was the biggest people pleaser in the world going through 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.040 that experience, and I thought I was just doing it 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.480 truly out of like the goodness of my heart, and 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.200 I thought that was the best way to go about 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.640 it in that unique kind of situation. Obviously, you know, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.640 being in that role, you have a kind of a responsibility. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.920 At least I felt to, you know, give a certain 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.600 portion of yourself to each individual woman, and they had 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.360 done so much to be there, and I just, you know, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.720 looking back on it and then just replaying things and reflecting, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.360 I was a big people pleaser, and that's one thing 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:05.480 that I've definitely grown out of. And I think actually 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.560 specifically kind of translating that towards The Traders, I think 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.040 I showed exactly that I wasn't so much in that 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.080 mode of trying to be people you know, Peter the 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.440 people pleaser anymore and just trying to make everyone happy. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.400 And that's kind of just that's always been in my nature. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.800 But I've definitely grown from that. And and I was 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.480 you know, making moves and and playing strategic games not 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.120 necessarily with that as like my main priority. And I 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.360 was putting myself first and a lot more of the situations. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.920 And I think I've done not just on you know, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.800 on TV or on The Traders, but just generally in 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.959 life as well. That's probably the biggest lesson that I 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.800 think I've learned about myself and like something I wanted 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.520 to kind of change and evolve into something different about 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.680 still maintain a little bit of that, because again, that's 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:47.400 just at. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.760 My core and who I am and in my heart. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.240 But I would say that's the biggest change I would see, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.160 I would say for myself for sure up to this point. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.680 Well, it's very interesting people that come from our show 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.360 translate to other shows very well. A, they're very beloved. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.440 That's so true, Chris. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.120 But it's something about you, how I guess the mental 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.719 gymnastics and emotional gymnastics we put you through on the 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.560 Bacher Bacherrette. You know, whether Tanna Brown and Tyler went 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.120 off to do that Special Forces thing, you've done, Traders 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.840 already did Traders. What is it do you think about 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.160 boot Camp Bachelor that prepares you for these other shows? 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.240 So well, that's a great question because you're you're spot on. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.040 It's it's there's been a lot of success from the show, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:32.440 you know. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.040 I I don't, I don't know. I guess, I guess 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.040 it is just a very very to me. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.960 Specifically doing The Bachelor, it was truly the hardest, most 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:46.920 difficult two months I've ever gone ever, Like I can 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.680 truly say that in my life. And there were so 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.959 many incredible highs, incredible lows as well everything in between. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.520 And I guess through the nature of the show, maybe 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.480 there's a lot of the people that come off of 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.160 it have similar experiences, some hire, some lower. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.640 But I think, yeah, it just it was such a. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.240 It was a great platform looking back on just to 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.640 be able to look back to and reflect and and 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.319 try to dissect why was I that way in that situation, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.240 or you know, being able to compare difficult situations that 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.080 maybe I'm going through now later in life, and I 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.560 compare them back to moments that I can, in a heartbeat, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.560 go back to and feel the exact sensation and feeling 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.160 that I was feeling, you know, back then that it's like, Ay, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.360 this is this really isn't that bad? 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.520 You know, I've got tougher skin. And there's a reason 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:33.400 for that. I don't know. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.320 I think it's just a lot of good experience. And 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.440 obviously the show itself is designed to, you know, as 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.120 you know, to you know, just go find love and 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.920 hopefully find a partner. But there's so many other benefits 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.959 that come from that show and opportunities for growth that 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.839 the average viewer I don't think actually realizes is actually 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.440 happening and going on with that individual person. And yeah, 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.079 I think, like you said, it's just a great boot 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.360 camp in a weird way to kind of set you 0:10:58.440 --> 0:10:59.720 up for success and other stuff. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.320 I like watching all of you go off and do 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.840 other shows, and it's I find it very interesting to 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:21.520 watch the dynamic and almost I feel like it almost 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.680 makes y'all producers. You becoming producer. You start thinking five 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.560 steps ahead of the game that's being played, which is 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.080 very fascinating. That's why I think you guys do so well. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.319 Maybe because Bachelor is so much about like analyzing who 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.199 you are and figuring out what's wrong with you and 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.040 why you haven't found love yet. And it's like a 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.079 lot of analyzing yourself and other people. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.200 Yeah, and I think it's also about you. Right. It's like, 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.400 I mean, you're you're one of one on the Bachelor, right, 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.120 it was you, man, it's your life. You are cut 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.040 open on the operating table and you are exposed. Whereas Traders, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.880 it's like I can I'm one of many and I 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.840 can kind of be the persona I want it this time. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.000 And well that was what was so smart about you. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.440 I'm like, oh, Peter surprised everybody. He's like, he's he's 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.160 not this like sweet little Pete on Traders. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.360 You caught some shit in the press. It's like the 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.440 way he's playing is ruining the game, and it's you know, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:14.760 I'm like, oh this is awesome. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:16.439 Listen. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.200 Yeah, I played hard. I played really hard. I wasn't 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.080 holding back. It was so funny because I didn't really 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.040 I really didn't ever expect to go back on reality TV. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.480 This was a really really cool opportunity that just came 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.560 to me, honestly, like a week before we even started filming, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.560 and so super last minute. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.640 I was like, you know, you guys know me. I mean, yes, man, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:34.679 I was like, yeah, let's do it. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.000 I had seen a couple episodes with Ari, so I 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.480 was like, all about it and I went into it 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.360 and it's funny, Yeah, you bring that up. I guess 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.280 if there is any kind of relation, it was more 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.800 relatable to the Bachelorette. You're right, because you can kind 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.520 of blend in a little bit more. It's not just 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.000 it's not the U Show, kind of like at the forefront. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.000 And I don't know if I just I just kind 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.200 of thrived in that environment a. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:54.760 Little bit more. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.640 But I think I was able to take advantage too 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.120 of like some preconceived notions from people I know. Oh, 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.079 I definitely did, because people, I think were definitely underestimated me. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.439 For whatever reason. I didn't realize people thought I was 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:05.920 so dumb. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.240 I guess it's like that's a thing that I've received 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.360 so much of and I'm like, guy, it's not that 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.839 it's not easy to be a pilot. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.960 I never thought you were dumb. You're a pilot. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.439 You know, you had an experience I don't think anybody 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.640 else had. I mean I was literally filming my recap 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.760 show Roses and Rose like the night before shutdown happened. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.400 It was like we got in that filming and then 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.240 I think the world shut down, and you had this 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.240 experience where most people come off doing a big reality 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.360 show and they have like all these opportunities and all 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.080 this press and everything's going on, and you kind of 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.160 went off your show and then went into the an 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.920 unprecedented lockdown. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.840 Looking back, how do you think that affected you like that? 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:52.240 I mean I remember that was when like you and 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.320 Kelly kind of got back together and everybody was like, well, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.520 what's going on? Where were you at that and how 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.160 did it affect you going from the show to lockdown? 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.400 Yeah, I that when I kind of, like earlier on 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.280 said that, you know, there's moments that I kind of 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.040 go back to and I can compare, like, a it's 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.800 really is in that bad compared to something else I've 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.120 been through. I would say like the end of The 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.320 Bachelor was the biggest moments where I was tested as 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.800 like a human being. That was very, very difficult for me, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:22.520 and I just had never experienced anything like that. You 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.600 got to imagine, you know, I was on top of 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.920 the world, right I'm you go through. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.120 A normal, normal guy. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.360 You know, obviously he got a job, he's you know, passion, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.560 is obsessed with and life's going good. And then you 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.560 get these cool opportunities and you batch threat and then 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:35.920 your life just changes overnight. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.280 You're getting you know, travel around the world and just 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.440 this whole new world is open to you. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.800 And then to have this insane honor of hey, we 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.440 want you to be the guy and and have you 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.720 be the Bachelor. It's like this is getting better and better, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.200 and just kept climbing it and you know, at some point, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.840 probably something's going to crash, right, It's just life ups 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.320 and downs and and so I went through that whole phase, 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.400 and and we had so much success with the show too, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.800 as you know that season was airing, and I was, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.320 you know, definitely proud of all that. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.400 But ultimately, you know, what I really did want in. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.200 That it really was like I'd throw everything else away 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.360 to have found someone in that moment to you know, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.120 have started a life with. And obviously that didn't happen 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.920 with me, and so that was really really tough, and 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.160 you know, and then there was you know, a lot 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.560 of the back and forth with certain relationships that just 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.800 kind of was like a little bit of toxicity just 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.040 coming into my life with that, and and then you 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.440 put in a shutdown, and then you put the end 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.920 of the world in right, and we mix all this 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.040 stuff together. It was just like, holy shit, I was 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.800 up here and now I'm right here. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.880 This is tough, and and. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.040 Yeah, it was. It was a tough period. And honestly, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.280 I owe a lot of it to Kelly. I I mean, 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.680 she we I think that's also a reason why we 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.280 got so close so quickly, just because we you know, 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.160 especially I where I'd been and what I was going through, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.120 and you know, her situation was a little bit different, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.840 but we obviously bonded and we helped each other with that. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.200 So I'm very thankful for that relationship for that reason. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.520 And yeah, I just I don't know, it just that 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.600 was such a hard point in my life. But I'm 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.840 not mad about it. I'm very grateful for you because 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.000 now I see where I'm at again, and I'm so 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.520 grateful for where I'm at and all the opportunities that 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.480 have right now and where life's going. And I don't 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.760 forget though that again, that the pendulum of life and 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.640 how you can have those highs and lows. It was 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.680 a really, really incredible experience to go through for all 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.880 the reasons, and I'll never forget that. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.240 God, Peter, you were in such a good place. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.040 I'm like reflecting on this right now because sometimes we 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.400 talk to people and it'll be years after the show 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.880 and they're like, still really really in the trauma. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.920 And it's true. I mean, you can't enjoy the highs 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.800 if you don't go through the lows. And it's you know, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.880 and the other adage that I think is very true 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:49.680 is don't get too high with the highs and don't 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.600 get too low with the lows. It's like they are 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:56.080 both going to happen. Your season was interesting, Like I 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.560 it was a weird time in the bats or you know. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.240 I don't know if you noticed this, but I was 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.000 talking to Lauren about it. And again, I always reflect 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.879 and think back when I know a guest is coming 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.919 on and you know, our relationship wasn't that strong to 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.840 start like I was. It was almost like I was 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.760 kept away from you in the beginning, even though you 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.679 lived right below me, and I'm like, oh, there's this 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.399 guy from Westlake, and I was trying to get to 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.800 know you. And there were certain seasons where and it 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.359 had nothing to do with you or me. It was 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.640 more like the producers would be fighting over uh being 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.639 the bachelor whisperer, right. There was the power dynamic of 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.080 who was going to be, you know, Pete's best friend. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.680 And I'm sure you felt that, and so I never 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.800 I didn't get to know you as well until kind 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.560 of later on in the show. I felt yeah. And 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.400 it was an interesting season because I also probably knew 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.840 you were women less than others, like I didn't know him, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.800