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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon tomorrow, someone's walking away for Nanda Mendozo

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Speaker 1: with the Heisman Trophy. Well, when you win the Maxwell

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Speaker 1: and Davey O'Brien Award, gotta think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, maybe Michigan hires a new head coach by tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Nobody better to talk to about both of these things

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Speaker 1: than longtime friend of the show, the owner, editor, proprietor

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Speaker 1: Grand Pooba of College Footballnews dot Com. All the picks,

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Speaker 1: all the analysis, all the prognostications you could possibly want,

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Speaker 1: by our man, Pete Futech.

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Speaker 2: He is on Twitter at Pete feutech Uh. Pete so uh.

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Speaker 2: A bit of a week we weren't expecting in college football.

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Speaker 3: A lot of stuff happening out there. Yeah no, it's

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's not gonna be anything too interesting to

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Speaker 3: morow that I'll be. I mean, if it's not Mendoza,

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Speaker 3: who's it gonna be. Because I don't know, I might

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Speaker 3: vote for this thing. I'm not supposed to say anything,

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Speaker 3: but like you know, you saw it tonight. He kind

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Speaker 3: of won everything except for the Bulletnikoff, which was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Because Makayle Lemon wins this thing. I vote for that too,

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Speaker 3: and nobody I know, know, you know pretty much vote

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Speaker 3: did not vote for Jeremiah Smith. But okay, you know

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Speaker 3: the welcome to Award season, here we go.

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Speaker 1: So so what you're telling me is Steve Vangeli, even

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Speaker 1: though proving he may be the most valuable player in

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Speaker 1: college football.

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Speaker 2: Is not going to win the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 3: Well, there is not a you know, he got shot.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he got vote, you know, maybe ten, but

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Speaker 3: there's not. But it's this But again, this was I

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Speaker 3: said before. It was like nine o'clock on Saturday night

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Speaker 3: and I still didn't quite have my my ballot ready

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Speaker 3: to go yet. So, uh, this will This is a

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Speaker 3: bad year for the Heisman, probably the worst I can

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Speaker 3: ever remember. There isn't a real Heisman guy there, So

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing. I'm guessing it's gonna be Mendoza because I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna think the other three guys probably split them pretty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the odds certainly heavy, heavy in Mendoza favor. But

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Speaker 2: we were talking about a little bit earlier, Pete, the

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Speaker 2: fact that all four of these guys were really far

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Speaker 2: off the map when we started. This season has got

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Speaker 2: to be good for something. Even if we do the

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Speaker 2: comparisons of hey, they pale in comparison to these great

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Speaker 2: seasons in the past, unless.

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Speaker 3: You know, it means that arch Manning suck.

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Speaker 2: You know, so it's i mean, he finished strong, Pete,

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Speaker 3: Come on, well, the Heisman is so hard to win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like look at stuff like the Doak Walker

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Speaker 3: the college football game. You look at the Heisman, all right,

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Speaker 3: Like well, the Big tim Championship didn't matter on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: All the matters is you know what is Mendoza saying

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Speaker 1: It reminds me Pete this year, like what what you said,

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of a different too. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: Well, we filibustered long enough with positive that he what

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Speaker 3: I don't know. The whole thing is weird from top

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Speaker 3: It's weird from the beginning. First of all, it's not

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Speaker 3: it's it's been handled wrong by Michigan in every way.

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Speaker 1: Now the thing is beaten out to turn this into

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Speaker 2: And this is just unfolding.

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Speaker 1: But Michigan can't really wait to hire a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Bought out of Alabama and he's a new head coach in.

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Speaker 3: Michigan who's playing tomorrow night? What there's a bowl game

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Speaker 3: that's going to be happening right about now, right around your.

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Speaker 2: It's Boise State, yeah, Washington, Yeah, and uh.

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Speaker 3: got it with good Fish. That's probably your guy in

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Speaker 2: See I was I was more thinking you were going

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Michigan is not playing for anything. Real,

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Speaker 3: it's a ball game. Okay, whatever, Uh, you just pass

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Speaker 3: the signing day things. You're fine. You're in transfer portal time.

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Speaker 3: this corrupt college football playoff system. If the if they're corrupt,

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Speaker 3: if this isn't fifty two to two, I will be shocked.

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Speaker 2: I will be And they run him Pete, They run

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Speaker 2: him against the Bears and Packers, yes, and the.

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Speaker 3: the afternoon where everyone's in there, you know, fantasy playoffs

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Speaker 3: and stuff, care about this stuff, and you're right, Bears

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Speaker 1: All right, Pete, So let's finish here now to combo

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Speaker 2: Who are you telling me?

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Speaker 3: I am really curious to see what Dante Moore does,

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Pete Futech, That is, at Pete

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Speaker 1: few Time at College Footballnews dot com. You're one stop

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Speaker 2: Okay, really real, real quick? Pete Army, Navy, who do

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Speaker 3: Maybe? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Jedge, good analysis, Jedfish, Pete few Tax leader in the club.

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Speaker 2: He could be the Michigan head coach this time tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: How about it? I'm out of here? Oh man? Uh

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Speaker 1: Uh, I gotta explain to him for you, me and

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Speaker 1: Time now to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 2: It's Monty Blagos with what's trend?

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Speaker 2: You just fished that. Save Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a movie from then. It was

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Speaker 2: Pretty good cash. You got metal arc lemon Kareem Abdul Jabbar,

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Speaker 2: Emmett Walsh. They're gonna say m night. Shameline was in

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Speaker 8: It's a movie.

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Speaker 2: It's a movie. The boy I'm gonna blame. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, the last NBA game has wrapped up,

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Speaker 5: Anthony Davis with his own double double twenty four points

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Speaker 8: Other NBA news, I'm not dying, I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Spurce center Victor Wamanyama is expected to return from his

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys a bunch mons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Fish that save Pittsburgh Montsi's gonna go watch

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Speaker 1: that on our iPad right now.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow accounted for seventy touchdowns like this is well,

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Speaker 2: What's been the sad part of it though, is all

435
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 2: week long, it becomes the look at these are not

436
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: even comparable. And here's some of these great resumes you

437
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 2: mentioned Burrow, go back to some of the great individual

438
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: seasons that we've had through the years. Go back to

439
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: the heroics of Tbow or Cam Newton's ridiculous numbers, like, okay,

440
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: that's not this year. Okay, it's a different it's a

441
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: different landscape where we've got talent spread out all over

442
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 2: these teams and with nil and all of these opportunities.

443
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: It's just a different world. What I think is cool

444
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: was in the final Final four is you got four

445
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 2: guys who were far off the map as far as

446
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: the Heisman balloting and early projections when we got into

447
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: the season. Right current betting odds is Mendoza's ninety two

448
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: percent implied probability that he wins. But you look at

449
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 2: coming into the season, arch Man and Cade Club, Nick Garrett,

450
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: Nussmayer got bench multiple times like just keep going on

451
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 2: down the line. You have all those guys and in

452
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: the end it's Mendoza, Pavia Love and saying none of

453
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: them were better than twenty to one, saying was twenty

454
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: to one, Love was fifty to one, Pavia was one

455
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five to one, and Mendoza was fifty

456
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: five to one in the open. So you just talk

457
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: about the run of a college landscape and where we're

458
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: at in the just a very different game. And we've

459
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: talked about it every week, watching it at the political theater.

460
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: That has been the playoff committee and the run through,

461
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: and this is just you know, the culmination of that.

462
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: Now for your Jets, we wait and see. Yeah.

463
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: Look, here's the thing is that I'm I'm okay. After

464
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: seeing the quarterbacks play over the course of the past

465
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: few weeks, right coming into the season, after the first

466
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: three four weeks, I'm like, oh man, it's gonna Mendoza

467
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: could be Dante Moore, Ty Simpson is playing really well.

468
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna have oh whoever needs a quarterback. You're gonna

469
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: be at the top of the draft. You're gonna be excited.

470
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: But nobody ever really took that next step. I feel

471
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: like we're kind of falling all over ourselves to try

472
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Speaker 1: to make Fernana Mendoza and to be look great college quarterback.

473
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: Right, This is this two different things we're thinking about here.

474
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Speaker 1: But part of the excitement is who's gonna jump to

475
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: that next level and be a great player? And yeah,

476
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: somebody will, right, Maybe it's Mendoza, maybe it's Dante Moore,

477
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's Garrett nus Meyer.

478
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: Who knows.

479
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: But there's not that overall excitement of wow, what a

480
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: great quarterback class. And you see all evaluators saying, hey, man,

481
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: you're going to see NFL teams push their quarterback ships

482
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty seven when it seems like it's going

483
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: to be a little bit better. I guarantee you if

484
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: Arch Manning came out this year, he'd be the number

485
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: one pick. Well, and that's where we're in the latest rumor, right,

486
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: that's where at if he came out, he'll be the

487
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: number one pick this year.

488
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he finished strong, finished well. And you

489
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: know you're talking about potentially teams like the Rams, right,

490
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: we talked about them a little bit with Joe Burrow.

491
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: Folks can find that full podcast yesterday. All the speculation,

492
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: you know, Matthew Stafford in his future and whatever else.

493
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: But when we're starting to look at at teams that

494
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: have an established quarterback. I wouldn't be surprised if with

495
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: a lot of these players that we're looking at here,

496
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: you got two different things going on at play. One,

497
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: if you're not going to get the first round valuation

498
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: and evaluation from these talent folks, as you're going towards

499
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: the draft, you're like, I can make how much in

500
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: nil money if I stick around or I move to

501
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 2: another school or whatever, because it's pretty good money, right.

502
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: The other side is that you have teams like the

503
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: Rams and maybe others that have a quarterback and again

504
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: the Stafford thing, we don't know longevity, he could walk

505
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: away tomorrow. Is the fact that you're looking at maybe

506
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: going back to more of the Packers model if you're

507
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: not sure right of, hey, let's get a guy in

508
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 2: the building before we need to and we bring him

509
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: along because how many teams have the break glass in

510
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: case of emergency? Was like, well, it's got to work

511
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: with this guy, and then they're terrible. It's like, all right,

512
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: how long do we run this out before we go

513
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: draft another guy and another one and another, Like it's

514
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: just that same thing year after year. And while folks

515
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: don't like Jordan you know, some folks still try to

516
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: go against what Jordan loves become like, I think he's

517
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: a lot better an option and a lot more efficient

518
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: in option than almost anything else you're running out there.

519
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: So it's that kind of thing with these quarterbacks moving forward,

520
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: is that maybe we get a little bit of a

521
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 2: landscape shift in the NFL as well in terms of

522
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: trying to get these guys straight in because a lot

523
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: of them only played one year as at high levels too, right,

524
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: and what have we seen with that time and again

525
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: in the NFL that don't work? No, right now, straight

526
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: from twelve or twelve games or fifteen games?

527
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: Right?

528
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

529
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells would always say, I'm taking a guy with

530
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: three years and thirty starts. Those are the only guys

531
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm not taking something with one year. Who's a one

532
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: year wonder that all of a sudden shows up and

533
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: is terrific. Now, certainly there are guys who are going

534
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: to break that mold. Joe Burrow certainly broke that mold,

535
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: and other other guys will do that. But overall, yeah,

536
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: it's it's a very developmental year quarterback, right. I Mean,

537
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like it's been a tepid Heisman

538
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: race the entire season. I can remember how many conversations

539
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: have we had about the Heisman Trophy over the course

540
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: the last two and a half months.

541
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Speaker 2: One we had any more than.

542
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: A passing thought or a passing question with Pete Futec

543
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: on the Heisman Trophy, like it's it's like again, it's

544
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: a it's a two thousand and six Troy Smith. He's

545
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: a terrific leader, and he's the best quarterback on the

546
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: best team. And there's your Heisman trophy. Wather, that's not

547
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: he goes.

548
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit preseason, a little bit as

549
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: the stuff started chaotically for Arch Manning and a few others,

550
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: But otherwise, I mean, does the Heisman still have the

551
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: same juice that it once did? Right? It used to

552
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: be much must see TV. Then it became a three

553
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: hour TV show with a lot of interviews and cast

554
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: like I'll tune in in the final five minutes to

555
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: find out who they crown when the betting odds are close.

556
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: But in this particular case, I'm sure we'll get Mendoza

557
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: speech and he can't top what he did after the

558
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: Big Ten title game. Anyway, No, no, no matter what he'd

559
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: be tough. That's gonna be tough, ye right, he ain't

560
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: top in that minute and a half or whatever the

561
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: hell that was of excited utterances and alternating between a

562
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: hype man and religious talk. I mean, it was just

563
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: going back and forth. It's like, Wow, here's a lot

564
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: going on in this man's head. But he is jacked up,

565
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: and I'm there with him.

566
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Now competing with the Heisman trophy Tomorrow, I'm sure will

567
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: be whatever twist and turn we get from form Michigan

568
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: head coach Oron Moore, who appear in court today remotely

569
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: in a prison jumpsuit facing a felony and a couple

570
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: of misdemeanor chargers following his dismissal as Michigan head coach. Now,

571
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: with every day, a few more details get out, and

572
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: today we get a better example of the whole picture

573
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: where Sharon Moore and this staffer had a relationship going

574
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: on the last couple of years, according many reports, was

575
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: the worst kept secret in the athletic department. And when

576
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: it got close to being found out a couple of

577
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: weeks ago, Sharon Moore, who had somehow the woman he

578
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: was having an affair with, got a raise on her

579
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: annual salary from fifty grand a year to ninety grand

580
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: a year. Didn't get a bump, didn't get a promotion,

581
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: just say hey, you got more money. When this was

582
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: started to become a bigger story and unable to be

583
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: contained anymore, or it was going to break wide open,

584
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: he was advised to break off this relationship and not

585
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: have any contact with the staffer. He was advised to

586
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: not have any contact with her. He then decided to

587
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: fire her instead of transferring her elsewhere in the football program.

588
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: This is when she came forward to the school with

589
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: details of their affair. He was fired. He goes to

590
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: her house with a knife, He threatens to kill her,

591
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: and then watch and watch him kill himself. He drops

592
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: the knife, he runs out, The police catch him at

593
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: a church. And now this is this mess for Michigan,

594
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: as we said last night, just gets bigger and bigger.

595
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: You think this is bad, No, no, just wait twenty

596
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: four hours, and wait twenty four hours after that, and

597
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: after that after that. This is just the beginning, because

598
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: now we're going to get into who knew what when

599
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: with this affair. But the biggest thing that I take

600
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: away from this today and I scratch my head and

601
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I go, you know, you see in movies, you see

602
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: characters that somehow juggle all kinds of balls in the

603
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: air at once, and they always seem to make the

604
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: right decision right, Like like I watched Jax Teller and

605
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Sons of Anarchy, I'm going, nobody has more on his

606
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: plate in the not even the president has more on

607
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: the plate on his plate in a world in this guy?

608
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 2: How does he do this? Right? How does he do this?

609
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: And when you're doing things like here's Sharon Moore who

610
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: was married and he was carrying on an affair and

611
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: he's the head coach of Michigan. This is a dude

612
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: with a lot on his plate, man, right, But when

613
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: it goes on for a couple of years, obviously he's

614
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: able to do things. But the mistake that I can't

615
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: come back to, and I shake my head and go,

616
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: how do you think this was a good idea? When

617
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: you get advised to not work directly with her anymore? Now,

618
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: there's many things you could do at that point, right,

619
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: You can transfer, you can just say, hey, listen, we

620
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't have contact anymore.

621
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: It's getting too hot for us. Whatever it is, however it.

622
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Is, But you really think firing her was gonna end it?

623
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Like you think you were that powerful that firing her

624
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: was gonna edit Like she wasn't gonna say, oh, okay,

625
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna fire me.

626
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'll fire you. How about that,

627
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: I gotta fire you? Rong, No, I'll fire you. Go

628
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the school.

629
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, okay, did you really think fire

630
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: that was gonna be it?

631
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: Like that was gonna she was gonna walk away and

632
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: go ah. We had some laughs. That's it. It's over.

633
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: What Yeah that was was that should not have been

634
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: a branch? How do you think? How did you think

635
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: that was gonna go that way? I read that.

636
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: That's what baffles me the most about all of this

637
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: is that, after all that's going on and keeping all

638
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: these balls in the air, that's the decision he made that.

639
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, we're gonna fight. I'm gonna fire you.

640
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: And that's when she goes to the school. Because I

641
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: was wondering, oh boy, when it turns out she went

642
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: to the school and told them about their affair, You're thinking, okay,

643
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: why what is this now? Now the situation could get

644
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: even more out of control. But then oh he was

645
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna fire. Of course he's gonna go and say, oh no, no, no,

646
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: you think it nunhe of you just wait and see

647
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: what happens now you want to fire me from this job?

648
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: Like that? That's the one where I go, Wow, I

649
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Speaker 1: don't know how that decision was made.

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Speaker 2: I really don't. What is it? The old hell hath

651
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Speaker 2: no fury. As for the forty thousand dollars raise, remember

652
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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth was once asked why he was making as

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Speaker 2: much as the president, and he said he had a

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Speaker 2: better year. So well, I think you can look at

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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth and see the home runs ago probably a

656
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Speaker 2: better year than the president. And and maybe maybe she

657
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Speaker 2: was looking at some metrics on and off the the

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Speaker 2: office that that may have have led to that. I

659
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Speaker 2: don't know happiness, quotionis and whatever else. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: in terms of that being the end game to this,

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Speaker 2: I we we questioned some of the rationality. You know,

662
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Speaker 2: the heart wants what it wants whatever else, and and

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Speaker 2: decision making complicated, as you say, you know, you got

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Speaker 2: a lot of things, and and as we've watched plenty

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Speaker 2: of uh what spy movies and crime movies and and

666
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Speaker 2: heist movies during our time together here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That we could probably have our own letterboxed, uh subset

668
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Speaker 2: for what we've done. You and I've had all the

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Speaker 2: novels that you've read and and that I've listened to

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Speaker 2: you talk about. Uh that that we we've got every permutation.

671
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Speaker 2: It never ends with Hey, I can fire this person,

672
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Speaker 2: and it's gonna go, well, that's never been a plot

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Speaker 2: point in any of this stuff. And uh common sense, No,

674
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Speaker 2: no editor is gonna take that in from a writer

675
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Speaker 2: and go, Yeah, that's how it should end. No, they're

676
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Speaker 2: kicking back, going that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, And in big business now, whenever there is

678
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Speaker 1: a situation that involves something like this, it is what

679
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Speaker 1: is the best thing to do?

680
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Speaker 2: Do we do we go and fire them? Do we wait?

681
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Speaker 1: Do we make sure we cross all our t's and

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Speaker 1: dot our i's be where we make that decision because

683
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Speaker 1: we don't know how litigious things are going to get? Right,

684
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Speaker 1: Let's look at what happened in front of the lawyers,

685
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: that's right, right.

686
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Speaker 2: Look at what happens in sports now when you see

687
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Speaker 2: someone embroiled in a scandal.

688
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Speaker 1: Uh and and you know what ESPN used to do this?

689
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Speaker 1: Uh really really they were, they were at the forefront

690
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Speaker 1: of this. Honestly, is it when something would happen and

691
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Speaker 1: if somebody did something that embarrassed the brand embarrassing. We've

692
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Speaker 1: seen it elsewhere as well. You know, we've seen in

693
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Speaker 1: a fox, We've seen in places. Right, So when the

694
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Speaker 1: decision is always okay, we could fire this person right away,

695
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Speaker 1: but then it's gonna get litigious, and then we're gonna

696
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Speaker 1: be dragged and it goes a big deal and it's

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Speaker 1: dragged into court and it's all these things. Or we

698
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Speaker 1: waited out and their contract ends and we don't hire

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Speaker 1: them again, and that's it and we move on and

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Speaker 1: it's and it's and it's just and it's way clean.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of how things are done. Like you

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Speaker 1: you don't see like that's why companies have to take

703
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Speaker 1: so much care into what's going on. And you fire

704
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Speaker 1: someone because you don't know what that's gonna mean coming

705
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: back at you. What what is that gonna be there?

706
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Speaker 1: You fire someone, you open it up to all kinds

707
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Speaker 1: of lawsuits and who knows what's gonna be out there?

708
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: What one person knows what it doesn't. It's a big unknown.

709
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Speaker 1: So to make that decision to fire somebody when you

710
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Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna go.

711
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Speaker 2: I go, wow, that is that is?

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Speaker 1: That is not That's not a page out of out

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Speaker 1: of any kind of business school I've ever been to.

714
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Speaker 1: That when you hey, when you want to fire somebody,

715
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Speaker 1: you gotta be damn sure that you have all your

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Speaker 1: your pages figured out and your your Tea's crossed and

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Speaker 1: your i's dotted before you.

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Speaker 2: Want to make a move like that. That's a plausible

719
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Speaker 2: deniability up the top. But if this is the worst

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Speaker 2: kept secret, okay, now it's the who knows what?

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Speaker 4: Where? How?

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Speaker 2: When uh we talk about litigiousness, I mean they think

723
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Speaker 2: of it just in sports. The number of issues that

724
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Speaker 2: have been at all places a lot of times. See

725
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Speaker 2: as you say, let the clock run out, like we're

726
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Speaker 2: not getting into the legal eaese because discovery is a

727
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Speaker 2: patting gas. John Gruden right as excited as he is

728
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Speaker 2: to get a box a crap from school X and

729
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Speaker 2: do an unboxing like he's one of those little kids

730
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Speaker 2: with holiday toys. You're telling me he wouldn't rather have

731
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Speaker 2: been coaching. Now he may end up getting some massive

732
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Speaker 2: ass settlement and at all. But doesn't he always strike

733
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Speaker 2: you as a guy that would have rather been on

734
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Speaker 2: a sideline somewhere. Yeah, I think so. Right, So you know,

735
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Speaker 2: and just go on down the line that things come out.

736
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Speaker 2: I mean that the Kaepernick case, right, I mean, how

737
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Speaker 2: many of the NFL owners, like, we don't need anything

738
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Speaker 2: coming out of this, figure out what the settlement is

739
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Speaker 2: and you can debate how much ended up being paid

740
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Speaker 2: out in that and so many other cases across our

741
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Speaker 2: sporting landscape that have nothing to do with dalliances and

742
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Speaker 2: office romances. Those are plenty, and where we've got those

743
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Speaker 2: all across the landscape, plenty of minds have blown up

744
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Speaker 2: over the course of the years for those. But just

745
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: talk about just from the straight business part of it,

746
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: it still just goes back to pragmatism of all. Right,

747
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: let's see, while this is not grounded or hasn't festered

748
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Speaker 2: in rationality, at some point we need to be adults

749
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Speaker 2: and come to an endgame. Uh, you know which is

750
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: bet and for this you know his family, friends, you

751
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: know everybody associated, right, the wife and kids, Uh, and

752
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: the how this all came to a head, Like you're

753
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: you're just if you feel terrible for all of it,

754
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: but you know, the firing was the the step if

755
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Speaker 2: you avoided that, I mean settlements and agreements and separation

756
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Speaker 2: termination however you want to want to come to it.

757
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Speaker 2: This was just not the way to try to end

758
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Speaker 2: multiple years. I mean, this wasn't a one one or two, uh,

759
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Speaker 2: you know, meet up kind of things. This is a

760
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: long standing thing according to the latest reports. So it's hey,

761
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Speaker 2: it's a mess.

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Speaker 1: Week in the NFL. We previewed the two biggest games

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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. Joining us now on the hotline

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Speaker 1: Very Good voter, ready to make another cut to get

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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame. He is Jason Cole what's happening?

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Speaker 4: Man. I was thinking about this earlier. I haven't been

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Speaker 4: on the show in a while when drinking heavily beforehand,

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Speaker 4: in a while, in a while, I need in a while?

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Speaker 2: Okay, how long it's a while?

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Speaker 4: Because a while?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So immediately now it's like, okay, how far back do

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Speaker 1: we have to go?

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Speaker 4: And it's months not years?

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Speaker 2: That's okay, Oh it's months.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I was born thinking when you preface it like that,

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Speaker 2: how's your Friday, buddy, and you're saying you and you're

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Speaker 2: saying you want to do that in the future is

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Speaker 2: what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was thinking that might help.

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Speaker 10: So you know, I got to get blasted to go

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Speaker 10: on to talk with hert Smith and harton these guys.

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Speaker 10: My goodness, we're going to talk about cowboy b and

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Speaker 10: all kinds of stuff, and so the first time I would.

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Speaker 4: Have heard that, I haven't let loose in a while.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, just thinking about that.

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Speaker 7: Not because it was a specific topic. I just wanted

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Speaker 7: to throw out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know, thinking about just making it out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe go go full on Saucer Brooks Martin.

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Speaker 2: The okay, all right, he's roasting everyone all right.

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Speaker 1: So so let's because this is this is the story

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting to ask you about all week because

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Speaker 1: I know I'm going to ask you and your response

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Speaker 1: is going to be a left.

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Speaker 4: Words.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what the hell exactly?

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Speaker 1: What what are we going to get from Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: if he plays on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a Bolo tie in our future?

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Speaker 7: Isn't there something that it might be?

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Speaker 2: There could be there could be some sort of endorsement

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Speaker 2: deal if he has a big game.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, wow, I hope we don't get you know,

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Speaker 4: like crippling injuries. But no, I love Philip. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm this is fun. You know, he's he's put off

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame thing for five years and you know,

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Speaker 4: in all likelihood because they're they're there. Once he gets activated,

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Speaker 4: he then they're taking him off the ballot and uh

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Speaker 4: for this year, and they're probably have a revote because

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Speaker 4: I think he's probably there's a good chance he would

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Speaker 4: make the top fifteen this year if if he if

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Speaker 4: he does, you know, if he's still considered eligible. So

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Speaker 4: we're going to have a problem with that if he's

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Speaker 4: if they went like.

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Speaker 1: If he didn't play and he was up this year

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Speaker 1: for the first time, Like, how close is it actually getting?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's well, he's in the top fifteen,

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Speaker 7: but we you.

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Speaker 4: Know, we've talked about the mass part of it, and

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Speaker 4: the mass part of it complicates it a lot. I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's a first ballot guy, and especially not

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Speaker 4: this year where you have Breeze and Fitzgerald and Witten

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Speaker 4: and Gore and then you have holdovers like Anda and.

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Speaker 7: Keikley and even Eli, Like I have.

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Speaker 4: A hard time between them trying to figure out the

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Speaker 4: Eli Rivers. I think Rivers was a better player, But Eli,

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Speaker 4: did you know the two Super Bowls weigh pretty heavily, right,

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Speaker 4: You kind of have to think this one through. Which

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Speaker 4: way is that going to go? But I thought he

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Speaker 4: would he would be well done the list, but he

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Speaker 4: would he would gain momentum. Now like all of that's

867
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: gone and we put it off for another five years

868
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: and don't even think about it for five years, which

869
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: I don't. Really doesn't really bother me that way either,

870
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 4: because there's plent me a good good guys to select,

871
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's and they're not just very good, but

872
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: they're fall of famers. Just to make sure we understand that.

873
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: And so anyways.

874
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 7: I mean, he's close, but under.

875
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: The current math rules, which I don't think are going

876
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: to last much longer. But that's my guess. I think

877
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 4: it's gonna it would take a while. You know, he's

878
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: the kind of guy who's probably going to have to

879
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: wait a minimum of three to four years. And that's

880
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: even if they reinstate the old gold pattern. I think

881
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: even into those rules, he'd probably have to wait a

882
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 4: little while.

883
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: See. I like the addition in the Twitter verse of

884
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: Kurt Banker, former quarterback for the Packers and Journeyman. He goes, hey,

885
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: if he gets activated, it helps reset his health benefits

886
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: for a bit.

887
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: That's important.

888
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 7: That's an important equation too.

889
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: Especially when when you got a bunch of kids and

890
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, grandkids and everybody that's you know, you got

891
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: to look after.

892
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 7: What does he have for five kids or something like that.

893
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 4: You know, I'll take you. But yeah, yeah, that's for

894
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: a woman, a lot of kids, she's been working hard.

895
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: I got to give her a lot of cred. She

896
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: deserts me in the Hall of Fame, Well he gets

897
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: to go there.

898
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: He gets to go play football for a few weeks

899
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: while she's got all the kids at all, because they.

900
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Do have a two year old or something at home,

901
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: don't they. I mean they don't.

902
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't even know, like I've lost track

903
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: of it at this point in time, but like they've

904
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: got eleven twelve kids and their oldest is Broldly in

905
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: college he graduated. I don't know, it's a long time.

906
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's a grandpa, all right, Ja Cole. Does

907
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow hate football or does he just hate the Bengals?

908
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: What say? That? Asked that question again?

909
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Well from his Wednesday presser and talking about joy and

910
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: whatever else. Was it just the sadness of turning twenty nine?

911
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: Or is this guy starting to ask for his release

912
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: from the prison that is the Cincinnati Bengals.

913
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: This doesn't it always end this way with Cincinnati players,

914
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: and at least the good ones, like they recognize that

915
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: they're in prison. Yeah, you're in.

916
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 7: There's more dangerous.

917
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 4: The warden from shot Tank or Mike Brappans.

918
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: Wow, now there's a comparison you didn't think you'd get.

919
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: On a Friday, Oh my god.

920
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Bob Gunton just making sure that they have some pie

921
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: she can't bake for Blank here you goes Get that

922
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Bob Gunton?

923
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: Is that the art? Is that the act? Yeah? Yeah?

924
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 4: He was. He was God, he was great in that role.

925
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 7: He was awesome. And he's so easy, he's.

926
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: So evil in just such a perfect way. And when

927
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: he throws the cigarette down and just stamps it and

928
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: looks up and just that there's there's there are some

929
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: moments in that movie where he really almost feels that movie.

930
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Not tomorrow, not after breakfast, Now we're gonna find.

931
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: Him now, Now.

932
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna talk to Joe Burrow.

933
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: Now, not tomorrow, not after breakfast, but after now, after

934
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: that press.

935
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 7: Conference, throwing the bubbles him.

936
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: Where it is? Get that Ai work in there?

937
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Ja Cole that one he's got like the poster of

938
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase up on the wall, going, let's ask Jamar

939
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Chase if he knows anything?

940
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: And he throws the bubble through breaks to what do

941
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: you think?

942
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: What do you think?

943
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 7: Sweet cheet? Looking at the escapes is the only way

944
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 7: out of the locker room.

945
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 4: Of the locker room.

946
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: He's got he's got his he's got his jersey and

947
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: his and his uniform, like in the bag tied to

948
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: his foot as he's crawling from.

949
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: A little umble wall across the field, trusting. He spent

950
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: twenty years just ending his pocket.

951
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 7: To borrow it to burrow in frame.

952
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: This is so great.

953
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: He gets on into the rain and he takes off

954
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: his he takes off his Bengals jersey and it's a

955
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins jersey.

956
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 7: He trossed the river. He's swam across the Ohio River.

957
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: And he saw on the Kentucky's side.

958
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, he just rips it off.

959
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: This is great. Oh, this is something. This if they

960
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: if Blazer Reports still did all those cartoons like they

961
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: did way back when, that's this would be perfect for

962
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 4: that escape from escape, escape from Mike Brown?

963
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: What what what?

964
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 4: What?

965
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 7: What? What? What would they call?

966
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: What redemption would it be? Was not Shawshank redemption. It

967
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: would be Riverfront redemption. There we go.

968
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that looks good. Riverfront redemption. Yeah, yeah, that's good.

969
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 6: There we go.

970
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: We got that all right.

971
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: So the poster, the poster changes over the years.

972
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: First it's Ken Anderson, then it's Icky Woods right, then

973
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: it's stating culture.

974
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: It's Corey Dyllon and Corey Dylan is the te because Corey, Corey,

975
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: Corey fought his way out. Yes, that's Now that's that's

976
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: genius right there. That's that's yes, Joe Burrow. It is

977
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: his moment of shot. He's stuck in Shoshank Prison, he

978
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: really is, and and he's turneling his way out. Yeah,

979
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: I think there's definitely the God Where am I? My

980
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: My career is just it's just dying on the vine

981
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: right here. I can just feel it. It's just it's

982
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 4: just nowhere. Because we blew that game so bout and

983
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 4: like he was responsible for that game lest week in

984
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: certain ways, but you know, there was a there was

985
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: some defensive issues as well. I mean they just like,

986
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: come on, man, you have you have Joe Burrow, you

987
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: have to go full on trying to take advantage of

988
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: every minute of Joe Burrow. And they just don't know

989
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: how to do this, you know. Mike Brand just and

990
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that is that are Katie and she's

991
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: you know, she's the one who's going to take over

992
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: the team along with her husband, But I don't think

993
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: she has the wherewith all they do it either. And

994
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 4: she's she's a lot understands football and knows how it works.

995
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: But I don't think this is not going to be

996
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: like pick Poles under Jimmy or Say's daughters. That's that's

997
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: not what we're looking at. Not no way.

998
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is

999
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: at Jason Cole sixty two. He's gonna go back and

1000
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: watch the shawsh anchor.

1001
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: Who plays that young guy who's the young guy who

1002
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: gets who gets off by the warden Kobellamy.

1003
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tommy, yeah, Tommy right, Tommy.

1004
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Would climbing trees.

1005
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: You swear to that at corner of long Yes, sir,

1006
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: and you put it out looks up at the spine.

1007
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks up the uh the sniper.

1008
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1009
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: There we go. All right, Jake Cole enjoy see anybody

1010
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: today next week. There you go.

1011
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: There it goes exit out about a Fresco exit swallowing

1012
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harvey.

1013
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: That is not John Cena.

1014
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: No, Instead, it's Monsie Belongos, And she's got what's trending

1015
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: in the wide world of sports.

1016
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: Three glasses of Whiskey's down. Just listen to her voice.

1017
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: You know that's where she's at on a Friday night.

1018
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 8: Whiskey's rough. Can it be tequila?

1019
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: Sure? Whiskey will give you a better voice, Lily's true. Yeah,

1020
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Whiskey and cigarette. Whiskey gets you that husky voice.

1021
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be a voice over star Monzie

1022
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: Whiskey and Ci Whiskey and cigarette five years.

1023
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 8: Oh got it.

1024
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 5: God, I'm gonna I'm totally gonna take this advice and

1025
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: the NBA guys right now, Steph Curry has twenty three

1026
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: points and the Warriors lead the Timberwolves seventy nine to

1027
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: seventy six.

1028
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 8: There's still a quarter and a.

1029
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: Half to go.

1030
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 8: They're halfway through the third here.

1031
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 5: Earlier today, though Donovan Mitchell dropped forty eight points, twenty

1032
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 5: four of them came in the fourth quarter, and the

1033
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: Cavaliers rallied past the Wizards one thirty to one to

1034
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 5: twenty six. Mavericks pulled away in the fourth quarter to

1035
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 5: defeat the Nuts one nineteen to one eleven. Anthony Davis

1036
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: with the double double twenty four points and fourteen rebounds.

1037
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 5: The Jazz and the Grizzlies went down to the wire,

1038
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: but Utah won a one thirty to one twenty six

1039
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 5: behind Keyante George, who ended with thirty nine points, which

1040
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: was a career high, to go along with six rebounds.

1041
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: And eight assists. Also Spurce center victor Ian Banyama. He's

1042
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 5: expected to return from his calf injury to play against

1043
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 5: the Thunder and tomorrow semi final of the NBA Cup

1044
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 5: in Las Vegas that you guys are going to go to.

1045
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 5: He is expected to play limited minutes. I heard you,

1046
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 5: You're going to fill in the seats.

1047
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 8: I heard you. I expect to expect to see yeah,

1048
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 8: exactly exactly.

1049
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 5: In college football, Indiana quarterback for Nana Mendoza took home

1050
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 5: the Davy O'Brien Award for Best Quarterback and the Maxwell

1051
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 5: Award for Most Outstanding Player in the Nation, while Nord

1052
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 5: Dame running back Jeremiah Love won the Doke Walker Award

1053
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: as a nation's top running back. In NFL news, Steelers

1054
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: edge rusher TJ What is likely to miss Monday's game

1055
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 5: against the Dolphins after undergoing a surgical procedure to repair

1056
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 5: a collapsed along. The Packers are listing running back Josh

1057
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: Jacobs as questionable after a limited practice today. Bears wide

1058
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 5: receiver Roman Doonday is questionable to face the Browns on Sunday.

1059
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 5: When it comes to the NHL, the Mammoth are up

1060
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 5: on the Kraken right now three to two.

1061
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 8: There's about four minutes to go in the third period

1062
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 8: and the Blues already defeated the Blackhawks three to two.

1063
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 8: Back to you guys, thanks.

1064
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: A bunch of mon Yes, Monsey Blangyo. Sucking it up

1065
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: to come in tonight with with all the with all

1066
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: the penicillin. She's up filled herself full of ready to

1067
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: be in tonight.

1068
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 8: Here medicated for sure.

1069
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: Spraying down the studio as she leaves everywhere.

1070
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 5: I'm walking just spray, yeah, just you know, like who

1071
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: is the dad for my big fat Greek wedding?

1072
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: Just kept walking out the windex every time for everything clean?

1073
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: He clean here all right, Thanks a bunch mons. Jason

1074
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: spent by Carbon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1075
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