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Speaker 1: am your host, Chad Millman, and very soon the Favorites

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Speaker 1: will begin diving deep into all things football every Tuesday

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Speaker 1: a huge thank you, a kudos to producer Matt Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: who dreamed up The Thursday Thunderdome, which I think maybe

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Speaker 1: short history of the Action Network, and who came up

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Speaker 1: man content machine. Matt Mitchell. When you conceived The Thursday Thunderdome,

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Speaker 1: it's been. As our episode description outlines, the most celebrated

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Speaker 1: been very, very gratifying guests. It has perfectly lived up

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Speaker 1: to the description. On today's show, our special guests will

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Speaker 1: compete alongside professional sports better my companion Simon Hunter in

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Speaker 1: a championship round of wagers and wits. That's made this show,

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Speaker 1: as we've said, the most successful offseason addition to our

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Speaker 1: have two stellar opponents today. Uh they are masters of trivia.

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Speaker 1: the Action Network Trivia show and did his own research

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Speaker 1: every single week, challenging us to trivia. Your first challenger

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Speaker 1: his return guests to the Thunderdome. He's our favorite Arkansas

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Speaker 1: and starting next week, you'll hear him on our brand

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Speaker 1: on Campus podcast. Starting next week, everyone download the Action

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Speaker 1: Networks all new college sports betting show. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, Colin Wilson, thanks for having me chat. Thanks

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Speaker 1: profit off of your sports legacy? Stucky europe feet. I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate getting Ginka Dari while uh Simon got Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: But um Mitchell, I'm gonna say this for you if

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Speaker 1: I mean, what better transition. So basically, if you were

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Speaker 1: a bust, you'd be doing the exact same thing you're

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Speaker 1: doing now, Yeah, you're living. So what you're saying is

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Speaker 1: you're living your dream exactly. It's totally true. You've got

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Speaker 1: I love you for it. It's a great answer, Colin

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Speaker 1: Stuckies answer tugs at my heartstrings and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard to beat it because everyone knows I'm sentimental and

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Speaker 1: I love love Colin. So Chad, I think what I

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Speaker 1: there's this thing that we're dealing with in college football

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Speaker 1: called super Senior, everybody has been granted an extra year

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Speaker 1: of eligibility. And what that means is is people like

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Speaker 1: me or people that didn't finish up their college career

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Speaker 1: can go back and have another year. He said, well,

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Speaker 1: there's no you know, there's no real money in that.

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Speaker 1: But now there's name, image likeness. So we're in the

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Speaker 1: wake of the pandemic, and what that means it's like

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Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell can go back to college for l s U.

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Speaker 1: He could be sponsored by night Quill or a soda

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Speaker 1: company or hard candy. If I'm Larry Tunsul, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: If I'm Tim Couch, I'm probably trying to sell furniture.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying if I'm if I'm a bust, I'm

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Speaker 1: going back to college for my super senior season, and

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Speaker 1: I'm taking local deals with the University of Arkansas, selling cars,

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Speaker 1: selling barbecue, selling all kinds of things in Northwest Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'd be doing, is spending my one

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Speaker 1: I think that requires a movie fan sort of like

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Speaker 1: suspension of disbelief. But I love the idea because it

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Speaker 1: superstar athlete, you completely bust out after having your glory

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Speaker 1: years in college. You get to the NFL, You're nothing.

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Speaker 1: So what do you do? What do you do? You

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Speaker 1: get this gift from the n C double A. You

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Speaker 1: take one last shot to do you live those glory days.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how old you are. You could be

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Speaker 1: fifty two. You get one more chance to go relive it. Brilliant.

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Speaker 1: I love sentiments stuck, but I like creativity more. Colin.

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Speaker 1: Don't say another word. Colin, you're in the lead right now.

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Speaker 1: Don't say another word. Simon. Yeah, I can't beat it.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna do a whole thing about how I

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Speaker 1: I busted out, and I was the kind of the

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Speaker 1: thing where we fixed busted up houses, and that would

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Speaker 1: be my whole thing. Is like, I'm a bust now.

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Speaker 1: I fixed busted houses. But I can't touch Colin. This

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Speaker 1: is way too good to even compare. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna go through all mine. Let me ask you something, honestly,

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Speaker 1: what the funk happened to you last night? Because your

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Speaker 1: answers are now Chad, you came to come in me.

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Speaker 1: You literally passed up on living in Fiji after a

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Speaker 1: gold medal being a king to go live in Singapore

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Speaker 1: for a million dollars. You're a joke. You don't even

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Speaker 1: try to come after your check. You want to find

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Speaker 1: political glory for Bolivia. You want to offend Bolivia and

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Speaker 1: now you want to go you want to go on

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Speaker 1: some house building crusade busted houses. I want to busted houses.

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Speaker 1: Where is the cruel, heartless wise guy that I've come

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Speaker 1: to love. I don't understand what's happening here. I fell

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Speaker 1: back in love last night, Chad. Is that what happened you?

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Speaker 1: The wine was flowing, my friend. I can't have you

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Speaker 1: falling in love before the football season. No distractions, no distractions. Stucky,

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Speaker 1: you've got three points. Colin, you've got four points. Simon,

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Speaker 1: you've got three points. I should take a point away

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Speaker 1: for your attitude. Right now? Here is the finale. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready, trail blazing basketballers? Before we start, please close

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Speaker 1: your eyes, hold up your fingers with your wager amounts. Stucky,

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Speaker 1: you can wager up to three. Colon up to four,

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Speaker 1: Simon up three. Here we go, here's the question. After

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Speaker 1: Missaka of the New York Knicks became the first non

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Speaker 1: The five seven Misaka enjoyed an incredible college basketball career,

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Speaker 1: winning a championship in every year he played. He began

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Speaker 1: with back to back junior college national titles at what

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Speaker 1: is now Weber State University. Misaka then transferred and immediately

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Speaker 1: led his new school to an n C Double A

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Speaker 1: Tournament title. After this, Missaka was drafted and served two

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Speaker 1: years in the army, but when he returned to school,

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Speaker 1: he didn't skip a beat. He led his team to

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Speaker 1: the much more prestigious n I T title in seven Today,

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Speaker 1: the college program plays in a Power five conference, and

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Speaker 1: Missaka's two titles remained the only basketball championships in program history.

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Speaker 1: And luckily, they're no longer known as the Redskins, having

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Speaker 1: changed their team nickname in nineteen seventy two. Please name

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Speaker 1: this program. I will call on Colin first. Colin, you're

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Speaker 1: up first, you had four points, you risked three points.

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Speaker 1: Give me your answer. A Power five team that used

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Speaker 1: to be named the Redskins. Yet I'm dealing with a

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Speaker 1: historical figure that won all the time, and a basketball

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Speaker 1: team that won all the time was U C l A.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember them ever being named the Redskins. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember them ever winning an n I T. But

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Speaker 1: all I know is is when lu All Cinder was around,

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Speaker 1: they won the national championship every single year. So I'll

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Speaker 1: go with U C l A. And I know what's wrong, dude,

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Speaker 1: lu Well Cinder played in college in the sixties. Colin,

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Speaker 1: you have one point. Stucky, you had three points. You

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Speaker 1: risked three points. What's your answer? I went with the

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Speaker 1: University of Utah to explain the answer? Is the University

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Speaker 1: of Utah the clue that gave it away. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know where you went to college, but was that. I

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Speaker 1: knew that they were named the Redskins before and I

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Speaker 1: was reading an article before, like Eastern Michigan used to

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Speaker 1: be like the Hurons and they changed it. They did

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Speaker 1: that in the early nineties, and I know the Utah

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Speaker 1: So that was the clue that I think gave it

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Speaker 1: away from me. They went to the national title in

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Speaker 1: the nineties, but I think that those would be their

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Speaker 1: only one explains the feather on the logo, Like I know,

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Speaker 1: the Utah Utes have always been in my brain, and

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Speaker 1: I can tell you about Andre Miller and all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff. I think you're beautiful. I think you're smart,

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Speaker 1: just the way you are, even if you're gonna lose

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Speaker 1: the thunderdome today, Stucky, you are a hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 1: You now have six points. Simon, what's your answer? You

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Speaker 1: had three? U risk three. I should have followed westco

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Speaker 1: so I was smart by these guys. I went with St. John's.

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of an old school

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Speaker 1: that I know used to be good, so I was

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Speaker 1: way off. Wow. Stucky the Action Network Trivia King, the

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Speaker 1: memory as the final winner of the Thursday Thunderdome. But

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Speaker 1: what's beautiful is, as we signed off today, we have

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Speaker 1: three past champions in Stucky, Simon and Colin. All of

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Speaker 1: you are winners in my book. Before we sign off,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Keen. You're out of your goddamn minds. Are you

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Speaker 1: listening to me? You're nuts? All right? This has been

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Speaker 1: because guess what, people, we are getting deep into football

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