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Speaker 3: Did you feel like a big break was coming?

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what that big break looked or felt like,

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Speaker 1: The gang banging and the drug selling. That's not really

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Speaker 2: But they looking cool to having girls and making music.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I like that part of it.

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Speaker 3: What's it like to get a record deal and then

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's no bouncing back from that?

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Speaker 3: How unsafe was it where you were in Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 1: The streets is crazy out there.

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Speaker 2: I remember like one of my first friends getting shot

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Speaker 2: and killed in seventh grade.

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Speaker 3: Wow, when was your sibling who posted away?

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Speaker 1: She passed away? I think maybe seven years ago.

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Speaker 3: I was that experience for you, losing someone's so close

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Speaker 3: to you that you love.

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Speaker 2: I am grateful that I was able to have like

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Speaker 2: the last moments that I had to be able to

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Speaker 3: What's a misconception you think people have about you?

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Speaker 1: The number one health and wellness podcast.

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Speaker 3: Jay Sheety Jay, Sheddy Sez Jay Sheet. Hey everyone, welcome

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Speaker 3: back to On Purpose, the number one health and wellness

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Speaker 3: podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every one

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Speaker 3: of you that come back every week to listen, learn

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Speaker 3: and grow. Today's guest is the one and only Wiz Khalifa,

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Speaker 3: multi platinum artist and Grammy nominee who rose to fame

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Speaker 3: with his twenty eleven debut album Rolling Papers, featuring the

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Speaker 3: hit Black and Yellow. Wiz one Best New Artist at

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Speaker 3: the twenty twelve Billboard Music Awards. His song see You

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Speaker 3: Again from the Furious seven top charts in ninety five

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Speaker 3: Today we're talking about Wi his newest album, Cush plus

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Speaker 3: Orange Juice to Please. Welcome to the show. Wiz Khalifa, what, Wiz,

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. It's great to have you here,

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Speaker 3: good to be here. You walked in with this real

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Speaker 3: chill energy today. I was like it was it was

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Speaker 3: very calmy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a super chill dude.

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Speaker 3: I love that man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What's the first thing you do in the morning? Smoke

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Speaker 3: wheed every day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? First thing, Well, I take my dog out outside.

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Speaker 1: I have a dover man. He's a puppy, but he's

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Speaker 2: He's like he's ten months now, and he wakes up

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Speaker 1: I smoke wheed.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever remember a day before that was the case?

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Speaker 3: What were those days?

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Speaker 2: I was in school, get up and earing my clothes

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, what does it do for you that you

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Speaker 2: It goes on and off just due to necessity, Like

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Speaker 3: What do you find is the craziest part of your life.

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Speaker 1: The craziest part of my life? I think the entertainment

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Speaker 2: You have to have this thing where you kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can relate, you know, I'd heard that before,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's helped you continue to love them and deal

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Speaker 2: I think it has a lot to do with my

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Speaker 1: I love to be on stage. I love to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it doesn't feel like I'm like doing anything

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Speaker 1: It's really really enjoyable for me.

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Speaker 3: So it's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It's a great experience.

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Speaker 3: That's such a beautiful place to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. That gratitude to your community for being there

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What's what's been What's been like your craziest fin

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Speaker 2: Think stuff is when people like come up and get

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just look I look at it as like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful. I was diving into your career with

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Speaker 2: I would say it was pretty normal, Like it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If you could give your younger self any advice before

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Speaker 1: I was good. Keep doing what you're doing. You got

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Speaker 2: Everything that I that I learned and that I figured

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where where does that come from? Because that's such

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: Like just my goals and this shit. I have my

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Speaker 2: on a time and you know, just keep just stay

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Speaker 2: down and just you know, just be very very like

446
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Speaker 2: have a lot of gratitude for where I'm at and

447
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Speaker 2: what I've done so far. And even when I was

448
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Speaker 2: coming up, I was really really happy with what I had.

449
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Speaker 2: So the more and more that I started to get,

450
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Speaker 2: it wasn't because I wasn't happy where I was at

451
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Speaker 2: and I had to get more. It was just because

452
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Speaker 2: I was so happy. It just, you know, just kept

453
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Speaker 2: turning into more and more. So I just keep it

454
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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a beautiful quote that says when you're grateful

456
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Speaker 3: for what you have, you'll receive more to be grateful for.

457
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Speaker 3: And I think it's true that gratitude expands. But it's

458
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Speaker 3: beautiful hearing you said that. Did you learn that from anyone?

459
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Speaker 3: Did anyone teach you mental you guide you or is

460
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Speaker 3: this an internal thing that's kind of evolved over time.

461
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Speaker 2: This is definitely some internal that's evolved over time, and

462
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: it's like gotten me really really far dealing with people

463
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Speaker 2: in business, or dealing with the law, or dealing with

464
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Speaker 2: just different personalities in general, as far as like just

465
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: getting what I want creatively and not you know, freaking

466
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: losing my mind, and you know, just being able to

467
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Speaker 2: talk to people and have clear conversations with an understanding

468
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Speaker 2: of you know, what works, what's real and what's not

469
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Speaker 2: and what we can make real.

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Speaker 2: The hardest conversation I've ever had to have with someone.

500
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Speaker 2: I think the toughest conversations that I have to have

501
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Speaker 2: are when I.

502
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Speaker 1: Have to explain my ideas.

503
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: Because because I'm so hyped up about it, like before

504
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Speaker 2: it starts before I verbalize it, and then as soon

505
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Speaker 2: as I start to say it, I just feel like

506
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Speaker 2: the level of intensity of it just comes down. I'd

507
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Speaker 2: rather just do shit sometimes and like just show you

508
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Speaker 2: and like what I learned, you know, by working with

509
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Speaker 2: so many other people, how valuable it is to like

510
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Speaker 2: have a team. So I learned how to be able

511
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Speaker 2: to express, you know, what I'm thinking and have that

512
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Speaker 2: go through a whole process and then we make it real.

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Speaker 3: That's so true, man. I feel like that sometimes that

514
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Speaker 3: you can see it in your head. Yeah, but then

515
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Speaker 3: you're like, you can't press play on the projector and

516
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Speaker 3: then it comes out, and so when you explain it,

517
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Speaker 3: everyone's looking at you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're crazy, Yeah, exactly.

519
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Speaker 3: And you are right. Sometimes I do feel we live

520
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Speaker 3: in a time in an industry where people have heard

521
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Speaker 3: so many ideas that until you see something, you don't

522
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: even understand it, right. And I feel like when you

523
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Speaker 3: look at music or you look at movies or film,

524
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Speaker 3: more TV or whatever it is when you watch something like,

525
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Speaker 3: oh that was amazing, but like someone when they talked

526
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Speaker 3: about it, no one wanted to buy it. Right, did

527
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Speaker 3: you find that record labels and people that you've worked

528
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 3: to the music always understood you immediately or no, you

529
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Speaker 3: kind of had to go prove and shows.

530
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Speaker 2: Oh man, they didn't know what to do with me.

531
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Speaker 2: There was no clue what to do with me early on.

532
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Speaker 2: That's why I lost my first record deal because when

533
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: I came in, the song was really good and it

534
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: was a sample from a popular song that people, you know,

535
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Speaker 2: was really recognizable. But after that it was like, well,

536
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Speaker 2: what do you do? Do you make like five more

537
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Speaker 2: of these songs or like what are we going to do?

538
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Speaker 2: And they really didn't understand like me being from Pittsburgh,

539
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: me smoking, me being lyrical, me, you know, being a

540
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: cross between like you know, really really hard hip hop

541
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: culture but then like really cool, trippy hippie skating you

542
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, earth them up too, Like there

543
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: was no cross between that at the time, Like you

544
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Speaker 2: really have to be like big white tea like chain,

545
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So like a lot of

546
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: labels didn't understand what to do with me. And it

547
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: wasn't until you know, I built my fan base of

548
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: people who believe the same thing that I believe in,

549
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Speaker 2: and I was able to you know, travel and do

550
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Speaker 2: shows and then they would come and see the show

551
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Speaker 2: and they'd be like, these mothers are going.

552
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Speaker 1: Crazy over this dude.

553
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter what we say or what we

554
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: think is dope, it's obviously you know there. And I

555
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: feel like that whole format, you know, has been done

556
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: a lot, like especially in rock and roll and pop music,

557
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: where the act will be bigger in real life than

558
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Speaker 2: they are, you know what I mean to other people,

559
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: Like they're bigger in real life than they are like

560
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: to hype, like as far as the hype goes. Once

561
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: they started to see that, that was my situation and

562
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: that's when people started to pick up on me.

563
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Speaker 3: Was that the way you built this audience that understood you?

564
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: Was it performing live? Do you feel like that was

565
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Speaker 3: the significant part for you in creating this amazing connection

566
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Speaker 3: you have with your audience.

567
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, performing live, going to a lot of different

568
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 2: colleges and festivals before they were as big as they

569
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: are now, Like stuff like south By Southwest and the

570
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: really like grassroots underground stuff is like what built you know, us?

571
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: And we packed into a van and just went on

572
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Speaker 2: our own tours, just up and down and just drove ourselves.

573
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Speaker 2: And then on top of that, YouTube had just came around,

574
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: so you know, I was recording myself and putting my

575
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Speaker 2: vlogs on YouTube. I call it a day to day

576
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: and I still do these to this day. They're like

577
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Speaker 2: a compilation vlog of like a week in my life.

578
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: I just started doing it because I was like, my

579
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: life is so crazy, nobody sees it, and it's so

580
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: much fun, and there's so much like stuff that goes on.

581
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: I was like, so I might as well turn it

582
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: into like you know what I mean, a little ten

583
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Speaker 2: minutes short.

584
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Speaker 1: And it worked. It worked a lot.

585
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: It helped sell a lot of merch, it helped sell

586
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: a lot of tickets, and helped build a really consistent

587
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: fan base of people who are still here to this day.

588
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

589
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Speaker 3: Do you remember any of those trips some places you

590
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 3: went to where something crazy happened that you call on camera.

591
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: Man, it's all on camera, so you can see that

592
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: stands out to you.

593
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think like there's really classic episodes.

594
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: There's like an Australian tour with me and Asap Rocky.

595
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: You see like me and j Cole in his early days.

596
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: You see me in Currency in our early days. You

597
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: see a lot of artists. You see me and Kendrick

598
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: in his early days. You see me with Nipsey Hustle. Yeah,

599
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: you see like the whole community of people who we

600
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: really came up with, who were like OG's in the

601
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: game now. But this really classic footage of us when

602
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: we all just started out.

603
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: Mac Miller, a lot of people.

604
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: Everybody, man, everybody who you listen to now was was

605
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: in those day to days.

606
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Speaker 3: Like originally, how did you guys will meet each other

607
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: back then? Like how did you connect? Yeah, guess there

608
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: was no Instagram m maybe there was, maybe there was.

609
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: No We would connect through Twitter. Yeah, Twitter was the

610
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: vibe back then. There was no IG. We weren't like

611
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: DM and each other on there, but we would connect

612
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: through Twitter and clothing if anybody needed clothes or weed,

613
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Like we would all hit up the same people's for clothes,

614
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: weed and you know, just vibes and stuff like that,

615
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: and we just all clicked and as we started to

616
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: like take off on different levels. We would just bring

617
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: each other with us based off of who we you know,

618
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: not really like the most, but were who we were

619
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: closest knit with at the time or who had made

620
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: the most sense with.

621
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Speaker 3: Like watching Kendrick then and Kendrick now.

622
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: It's really dope watching Kendrick then and then now because

623
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: we all came up together, so we were all doing

624
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: the same things, we were all speaking to the same crowd,

625
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: and we were at different levels in our career. And

626
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: I just remember performance wise, Kendrick will kind of like

627
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: scream on stage, like he didn't sound like he did

628
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: on the record, But now he's like one of the

629
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: best performers and he's like one of the you know

630
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, the guys really carrying it for our generation.

631
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: So to see him like just jump up levels and

632
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: levels and levels through like.

633
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: Hard work and branding and you know.

634
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: Just being around the right people at the right times,

635
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: bringing people along with him like Baby.

636
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Speaker 1: King and all of them.

637
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, He's just really doing

638
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: every move to the t of how you're supposed to

639
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: do it.

640
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: And how's j Cole evolved as well.

641
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Cole is the same thing.

642
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, we all started out just the homies,

643
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: like trying to get a verse on each other's tapes,

644
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: and now dudes are like elite rappers up there, you

645
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And it's like, it's cool to

646
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: see him have his own festival. It's cool to see

647
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: like he doesn't have to do as much work throughout

648
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: the year, but when he does drop, people pay attention

649
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 2: how they're supposed to. He does great tours and like

650
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: as a as a performance artist and as a substance artist,

651
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: I feel like he has a type of career like

652
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: that's all you can ask for.

653
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's powerful. What does it feel like you were

654
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: saying there? Like in some ways things have changed, Like

655
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: what's changed for up and coming artists today? And what

656
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: are they doing right? What they're doing wrong? How would

657
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: you advise someone if you were starting out from scratch?

658
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah today again, how would you approach your career differently

659
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: or in the same way.

660
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: I think that there's levels to it.

661
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people aim for, like

662
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: the surface level where it's like you get one or

663
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: two things and you're good, and that's what takes you

664
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: to the top, but usually that works against you because

665
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: you'll have that spike, but then you'll go back down

666
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: and you'll have to go back up again. It's really

667
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: difficult to have that spike and to have that feeling

668
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: of validation and like oh yeah, everybody's doing me and

669
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: blah blah blah and then boom y'or not with you,

670
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: and then you got to try to do something to

671
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: get them back on your team. So, you know, a

672
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna want to go that route,

673
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: but it has a lot of negatives that come with

674
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: it on the back end. And it's a really good

675
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: time for artists to, you know, cultivate a real fan base,

676
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: whether it be in front of people's eyes or whether

677
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: it be behind the scenes. It's a really great time

678
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: to cultivate a fan base of people that understand you,

679
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: understand your slanging and how you dress and what your

680
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: lifestyle is about, and really push that to the forefront.

681
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: Let that slowly build and eventually, whether it's a year,

682
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: two years, three years, or five years, you know, you're

683
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: always making a little bit of progress here here or there,

684
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: and wherever you land at, you're gonna permanently be there.

685
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of people today who get

686
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: told you've only got twelve months. You had your hit,

687
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: You've got twelve months to make as much money off

688
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: of you as possible. Like a lot of people hear that, like, hey, look,

689
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: your career is not going to be that long. Let's

690
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: make the most we can. What would you say to

691
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: someone who feels that fear themselves or gets told that, like, hey, look,

692
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: you had one hit. Let's just you know, crush this peak.

693
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: If somebody tells you that.

694
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: You better get some drugs and start selling them, use

695
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: that money, flip it, nah, get some real estate, because

696
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like somebody who only has a year planning

697
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: in you and they're like, yo, you're only gonna be

698
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: here for this amount of time.

699
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna move on.

700
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna to find other artists or you know, different

701
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: people to represent, and you're going to be asked out.

702
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: Like so, any artist or any personality who somebody is

703
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: already talking about like the limit of the lifespan of

704
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: their career, they should definitely be worried and not try

705
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: to race to you know, do the most in that

706
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: amount of time, but to try to figure out how

707
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: to extend that lifespan. So let's take what that person

708
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: just told you and let's try to figure out, you know,

709
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: what the next five years looks like instead of the

710
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, next twelve months.

711
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good advice.

712
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

713
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: How far into the future do you look when you're

714
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: planning music, work, life.

715
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I always try to look at least five or ten

716
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: years in event.

717
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, how different is where you are today from where

718
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: you looked at where you'd be five to ten years ago.

719
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: I'm doing way better business wise than I've ever done,

720
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: not just making money but managing money, and I feel

721
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: like I'm getting better and better at that, and you know,

722
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna take me, you know, into the future

723
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: as well. It's not only just you know, the making

724
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: of the money, but the money management.

725
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: What have been your best moves in money management or

726
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: business that you think people could learn from.

727
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: My best moves in business is just being accountable for everything.

728
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: I think in rap music we get so caught up

729
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: on the lifestyle and we're like I have to have this,

730
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: or if it's a new truck, I'm buying that, or

731
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: but me, I'm more like.

732
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm only going to spend this much on clothes this month.

733
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: You know, if I want a new car, I'm gonna

734
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: wait a year and a half until I get it,

735
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Or I'm going to move

736
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: money from this account to spend on this, so this

737
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: is here and that there, and you know, we could

738
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: still pay for tour, and you know, how much are

739
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: we spinning on tour, how much are we making off

740
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: of tour? How much comes in off of merch on

741
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: top of the other businesses and things like that. But

742
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: really the money management, like the everyday type of spending

743
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, you could get carried away

744
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: buying too many clothes or you know, getting too many

745
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: nice rooms or you know what I mean. And I

746
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of luxuries that come in my life,

747
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: but I could also do without a lot of that

748
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: stuff too, So the unnecessary stuff and knowing what the

749
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: stuff that is not really needed, paying attention to that,

750
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: not letting just those things just slim through the cracks

751
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: because they all add up and shit. So I think

752
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: just being way more conscious of that type of stuff.

753
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you learn that the hard way because you

754
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: were overspending or did you learn that because you saw

755
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: other people before you were overspending.

756
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: Luckily, I didn't get to a point where I overspun

757
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: or overspent. I just receive large ass amounts of money

758
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: and with that comes advice, and you know, so it's

759
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: like yearly or quarterly. You know, we need to have

760
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: these conversations where it's like, this is what the money

761
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: looks like. We had to spend for this because of that,

762
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: or you know, you had a little bit of fun

763
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: spending this, so let's just bring it back on this, this,

764
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: that and the other thing. And just throughout time of

765
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: having those conversations, you start to figure out where the

766
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: unnecessary spending and the problems come from. Or even if

767
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: you start to create little different issues, you'd be like, Okay,

768
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: this isn't really working in our favor, so we need

769
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: to wiggle out of this. And you know, even if

770
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: it's spending this big chunk over here, that's going to

771
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: take away from the continuous spending, that's kind of like

772
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: bleeding and taking away. So just to learn that and

773
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: have that visual in my head, you know, while I'm

774
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: making decisions.

775
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't.

776
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 2: They feel like they're being controlled if somebody's telling them that.

777
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: But for me, it's a choice it's like, do you

778
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: want to be broke twenty years from now or do

779
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: you want to be having more money.

780
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Twenty years from now? All right, well this is how

781
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: you do it.

782
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, good advice, man, it makes sense, and it's

783
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: hard to do in the moment because you just you

784
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: want to get that thing or you want to buy

785
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: that thing, and it applies across the board. What's the

786
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: dumbest thing you ever bought? Now you look back, I

787
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: thought that.

788
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Was dumb, man. I don't think it was ever like

789
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: one dumb thing.

790
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: I just used to be dumb how I bought stuff

791
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Like I would see anything and just like it and

792
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: buy it. It didn't matter how much it cause if

793
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: it was a car I wanted it, I would buy.

794
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: It like right then and there.

795
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes it be a watch or something like that. And

796
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: like a lot of these watches I don't even have

797
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: no more.

798
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: So it's like gave them away or sold.

799
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Them, sold, gave away lost.

800
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what was the best investment you've ever made?

801
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: It'd probably be like some stocks or it's like some

802
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, like a percentage of a business that I've

803
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: invested in. Yeah, I've had multiple, but there's some really

804
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: good ones that you know, I put some money into that,

805
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 2: it's going to come back and in some really good ways.

806
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope people get inspired by hearing you talk

807
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: about how sometimes you got to put off those big purchases,

808
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: wait a year for that car, because I think when

809
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: when we're young, especially and you come into even a

810
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: little bit of money, which feels like a lot of money,

811
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: it's so easy to spend and just get carried away.

812
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: And especially now, I feel like with all of us

813
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: just ordering things off of Amazon and everything else all day,

814
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: it's like you have no idea how much money you spent.

815
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, it's so easy.

816
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: It's just super easy to look up and you know,

817
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: however much just be gone. And when it's gone, is gone.

818
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: And to me, like I feel like you have to

819
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: go through that. You have to really feel that and

820
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: understand it. And whatever you know you believe in, I

821
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: believe in God. So it's like that's God telling me like, Okay,

822
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: you spent this much, it's gone. You're gonna get more,

823
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: but you need to deal with the feeling of you

824
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 2: having it and it being gone, and then now we'll

825
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: see what getting more feels like. But some people when

826
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 2: they have it and it's over with, they don't even

827
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: know what that bounce back feels like or it looks like.

828
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: So you know, unfortunately the best way to learn is

829
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: to go through it. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, but afterwards,

830
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: like you know, it's on you after that, like you're

831
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: gonna keep doing the same thing over and over or

832
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna learn from you know what happened?

833
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: Is what does your relationship with God look like?

834
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: My relationship with God is the shit I pray all

835
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: the time. I thank God all the time. Yeah, a

836
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: lot of people, there's certain people who don't feel like

837
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: God is like a higher power or anything like that.

838
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: But I like to just imagine that my God is

839
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: just like chilling up in the sky, like with a big,

840
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: deep voice. The sun could be going down and I

841
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: could be driving and the Hotel California could be on

842
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: I'd be like, thank you God, like you know what

843
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: I mean, because like the situation just feels right.

844
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And what does God say to you in

845
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: God's deep voice.

846
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: You're welcome, You're supposed to have this?

847
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: Has that always been there since you were young? Or

848
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: that it's come with time as well?

849
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely since I was a teenager, definitely, since I

850
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: was like I can remember, you know, being in like ninth.

851
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: Tenth, no, probably even like eighth grade.

852
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: Just praying every night, thanking God for a wonderful day,

853
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: asking him to bless everybody that I care for. Yeah,

854
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: just like really cool stuff, like just normal, normal ass

855
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: shit that I want the world to feel.

856
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: What would you pray for? What else apart from other people.

857
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: To be safe? I was.

858
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: I was in a crazy ass place when I lived

859
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. So I definitely asked for like that that safety.

860
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: The older I get, you know, I asked for like

861
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 2: patience and understanding and things like that.

862
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

863
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: So just really shit, that's not regular, that's that's pretty Yeah. Yeah,

864
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: how unsafe was it where you were in Pittsburgh?

865
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: It's super unsafe in Pittsburgh, man, Like the streets is

866
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: crazy out there. Friends of mine started getting murdered when

867
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: I was in like seventh grade, Like I remember like

868
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: one of my first friends getting shot and killed in

869
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: seventh grade.

870
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: Wow, And then when did you leave Pittsburgh.

871
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: I came to Pittsburgh permanently when I was in middle school,

872
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: and I stayed throughout high school. I probably didn't dip

873
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: until I was like twenty three years old.

874
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: Right, because you moved around a lot growing up, right,

875
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: at least as far as I swab.

876
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, every two years, as I would bounce around, and

877
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: my mom was always in Pittsburgh. So I would go

878
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: live with my dad for two years, and then I

879
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: will come back to Pittsburgh. Then I will go live

880
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: with my dad, and then I will come back to Pittsburgh.

881
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: So I was in Pittsburgh in third grade, and I

882
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: was also there for middle school, and then I came

883
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: back from high school. And then other than that, I

884
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: live like in Oklahoma, South Carolina, Japan. Yeah, those were

885
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: a couple of what was your favorite place? I think

886
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: Japan was my favorite place.

887
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: How old were you when you're in Japan?

888
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: I was in like fifth and sixth grade, Okay, yeah.

889
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: What was that like? I mean Japan at that time,

890
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: but now I feel like everyone's like, Japan's the place

891
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: to go.

892
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool when you're like exploring Japanese culture.

893
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: But I just realized, like as an adult that that

894
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: shit was kind of fucked up because it was like

895
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm living on an American base in Japan, right, And

896
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: like just the concept of like Americans occupying Japan. It

897
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: was like, you never find a Japanese base in America,

898
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: but like we have the audacity to like go over

899
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: there and just be like here here our base. We're

900
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 2: going to operate as Americans. We're gonna send our kids

901
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: to school here, don't teach them your language. Nothing is

902
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 2: just going to act like America in Japan.

903
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's you.

904
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: Never learned Japanese.

905
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: I learned a little bit of Japanese, but it was

906
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: like basic. It wasn't like really any like diving into

907
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: the culture or anything like that. Like it's just you

908
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: live on post and you travel from one base to

909
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: another base, and that's pretty much what it was.

910
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: How do you think that experience impacted you now? Like

911
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: how is that childhood experience of moving around, darting around

912
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: every two years to find who you are today?

913
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: It was cool because I was able to just be

914
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: a regular kid, and I was able to like meet

915
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: friends and different groups of friends and run around and

916
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: play and knock on doors and ride bikes and climb

917
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: hills and stuff like that.

918
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: So it was super chill. Man.

919
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: It was fun just being normal and not really worrying

920
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: about too much. I think the older that I got

921
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: and the more settled that I got in Pittsburgh, that's

922
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: when I started to like figure out, you know, who

923
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to be later in life. But in those

924
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: early years, it was just all about like being a

925
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: kid and just playing with my friends.

926
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: When you saw all of that around you, how did

927
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: you have? What gave you that feeling to dream and

928
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: to want something more? When you're seeing like the violence

929
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 3: around you, you're saying, it's a rough neighborhood. What's given

930
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: you the ability to go there's more to life than this.

931
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 2: I think it was just like knowing that I had

932
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: talent with music. I always did music since I was younger.

933
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: My uncles and my cousins were older than me. They

934
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: were like, you know, fifteen, sixteen all the way up

935
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: to almost like twenty years old, and I was like

936
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: the baby.

937
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm thirteen years old.

938
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: So I'm really kind of trying to do what they're doing,

939
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: but I'm picking the parts that make the most sense

940
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: for me. So it's like the gang banging and the

941
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: drug selling and the guns and all that.

942
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: Shit, like that's not really for me.

943
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: But the looking cool they having girls, the getting money,

944
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: the making music.

945
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like that part of it.

946
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: So that's what I always really stuck to, like just

947
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: even as a kid, like I was just like I'm

948
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: gonna just do what I know is cool for me,

949
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: which is just making music.

950
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: And you know that's kind of like what led me

951
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: on my path.

952
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, how could you? How did you stay away from

953
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: all of the other things, because sometimes those can look

954
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: cool when you're young, they can they can be attractive

955
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: when you're.

956
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really stay away from it.

957
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: I definitely like, you know, the older that I got

958
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: and the you know, the more fun I started to have,

959
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: I kind of was in and out of that stuff.

960
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: But it wasn't for me.

961
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: You know, like just there's it's a lifestyle for some

962
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: people and for a lot of those people, like they're

963
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: still doing it now, and for me, it was just

964
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: kind of like you know, being a kid or like

965
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: a right right a passage type thing, or it's like

966
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: product of my environment type stuff, you know, like the

967
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: little stuff that I would get into. It's like I'm here,

968
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm getting down, Like I'm not gonna

969
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: be the only one who's not down, you know, you

970
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: grow out of that stuff too, and you learn from

971
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: that stuff as well. So I learned from the things

972
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: that I did do and I learned from the things

973
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 2: I didn't do as well.

974
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean now you're a father yourself. Yeah, how

975
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: do you feel looking now from the perspective of being

976
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: a dad. You've been a father to Sebastian for a

977
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: while now, right, and then you just had a do

978
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: a cadence I believed. Congratulations, thank you, and like what's

979
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: it been like to be a father to Sebastian And

980
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: then how is your views of fatherhood changing now that

981
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 3: you've had a door.

982
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really good having Sebastian and having a boy,

983
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: especially at his age.

984
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: He's eleven now, and.

985
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: There's just certain instincts that are starting to kick in,

986
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: you know, where it's like he was a young boy.

987
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Now he's like, you know, a young man, and he's

988
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: growing into a more of a young man. And every

989
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: day really and just that programming of you know, life

990
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 2: and discipline and being polite and you know, on top

991
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: of you know, just every day stuff of like handling

992
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: his emotions with his friends and things like that. It's

993
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: a really like fun experience. Going through all of that

994
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: with him because I'm able to remember what it was

995
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: like for me as a kid. So instead of just

996
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: like telling him the rules and what you should and

997
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: shouldn't do, it's more like guiding him of you know,

998
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: how to you know, navigate through these situations, which is

999
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: really really fun.

1000
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: And I had that with my dad as well.

1001
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: He was always you know, there for me and talk

1002
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: to me about a lot and he was way more

1003
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: disciplinary than lenient. And I'm a super lenient parent with

1004
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: my son, but I'm also like really real with him,

1005
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: and he's able to be real with me and he's

1006
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: able to talk to me about, you know, real life things.

1007
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: And when I think about the stuff that I did

1008
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: when I was you know, coming up, no, by the

1009
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: time I was his age, I was doing a lot

1010
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: more stuff because, like I said, my uncles and my

1011
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: cousins were older. And I'm just thankful that I was

1012
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: able to have those experiences and know what's appropriate and

1013
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: what's right and what's not so I'm able to monitor

1014
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: what goes on with him and what will affect his

1015
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: behavior later. And then just having a baby girl, I

1016
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: think it just adds to it now because I'm able

1017
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: to just give all types of love, Like I got

1018
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: the tough love with my boy, and then I got

1019
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: like just the sweetness of having a daughter, which you

1020
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: know helps helps out a lot.

1021
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you think you're gonna shift your strategy

1022
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: as she grows up?

1023
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna do it pretty much the same,

1024
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: just like cater to her needs, like whatever she needs.

1025
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: If she's like super girly girl, then we're doing you know, ballet,

1026
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: and we're doing dance, and we're doing drama and we're

1027
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: doing all the girly stuff. And if she's a tough girl,

1028
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: then we're doing boxing and we're doing whatever else to

1029
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: rough her up.

1030
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: We do horseback riding, we do whatever we want to do.

1031
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, there's no the sky's

1032
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: the limit, but you know, keep her active, keep her entertained,

1033
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 2: and just cater to her needs.

1034
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: What's Sebastian into right now? Like eleven year old, what's

1035
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 3: what's like his obsession?

1036
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: He loves basketball? Okay, yeah, he loves to play basketball.

1037
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: He's really just now learning like the fundamentals of it,

1038
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: but he's good at it. He's an athletic kid, and

1039
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: he's like it's good to see him like roughing around

1040
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: with the boys, like being one of the boys. They

1041
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: talk shit to each other, they get in each other's faces,

1042
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: and like they really get after it. So he's he's

1043
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: like gravitating towards basketball more than anything, just that and

1044
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: just being with the friend, being with his friends, like

1045
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: just being a kid.

1046
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: Were you any good at basketballs?

1047
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Hell yeah.

1048
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: I never had like like official training like what he's

1049
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: going through.

1050
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: But if I did, bro, I'd be so.

1051
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 2: Much better than I actually am, and I'm really really good,

1052
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: so I would be like, I'll be deadly if I.

1053
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: Knew how to do it. Well, he's learning right now, so.

1054
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: You could give him some points along the way, just.

1055
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: Like naturally you know what I'm saying. Hell yeah, yeah, yeah,

1056
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: I love that.

1057
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: And you never did ballet or anything or anything?

1058
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: Nah noa, I never did that. I did like acting

1059
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: classes and shit like that.

1060
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: I was in like speech and drama and all of

1061
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: that shit, but never know dance though.

1062
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: Did that help speech and drama classes? How did that?

1063
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: I think that helped?

1064
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1065
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it helped a lot because it was like,

1066
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, you learn how to project your voice and

1067
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: all of that stuff and you learn how to like.

1068
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Hit qes on stage and you know, just kind.

1069
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: Of like get outside of yourself in front of people

1070
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: where you're still yourself, but then you're like outside of yourself.

1071
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: I definitely think that helped for my performance.

1072
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: If Sebastian came up to him, was like, I want

1073
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: to be a rapper. Two Yeah, what would you say

1074
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: to him, Let's go studios downstairs? What advice would you

1075
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: have for him to find his voice.

1076
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: Studios downstairs, just get it then get in there and

1077
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: start wrapping.

1078
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, would.

1079
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: You want that or you're kind of open to whatever.

1080
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't mind, especially the way that I'm implemented

1081
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: in the game, Like I do what I want to do.

1082
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm not like nobody controls me, nobody tells nobody is

1083
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 2: like working me harder than I need to be worked

1084
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: or anything. So I see the same vision for him,

1085
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: especially in the age that we're in. So it's like,

1086
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: if you're going to be an artist, you're gonna be

1087
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: in complete control of everything.

1088
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: So it starts now. Yeah. Yeah.

1089
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: The team was saying that you plan a lot of

1090
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: your life around him. Yeah, And they were saying that

1091
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 3: like sports games, and things like that, Like you've really

1092
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: taken that idea of an art should be in control

1093
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: of their own life. Yeah, like walk us through that mentality,

1094
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: that mindset.

1095
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people focus so much on their work

1096
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: and they think like that the work is going to

1097
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: come to an end at some point or they have

1098
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: to sacrifice things that are important for work, and I

1099
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: believe the opposite. I think I should sacrifice work for

1100
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: my family and it should just be the other way

1101
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: around because of how much that work and how fortunate

1102
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: I am to be in a situation where I put

1103
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: in a lot of work. I've done a lot of things,

1104
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: so I don't have to, you know, feel this sense

1105
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: of urgency that things aren't going to go my way

1106
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: if I miss out on something, or if I you know,

1107
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 2: speak up and just try to make sure that everything

1108
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: works out hard.

1109
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: I would rather at work.

1110
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: And you know, I had the point in my life

1111
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: where I would be in a studio every day, or

1112
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: I would be you know, a different country every day,

1113
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: or I would be you know, a show fitting assigning

1114
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: TV appearance, blah blah blah. I would do all of

1115
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 2: these things back to back to back to back to back,

1116
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: so I've done that already, but now it's more important

1117
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: for me to just wake up, work out, spend time

1118
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: with my family, make sure that he is at his

1119
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: best because he needs to go to practice. He needs

1120
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: to train every day for him to be successful later

1121
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: on in life. And if I'm not there to like

1122
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: motivate that, either he's going to get it from somebody

1123
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: else I don't know who, or it's just not going

1124
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: to happen at all. And that's my job right now

1125
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: is to make sure that he's successful. So, you know,

1126
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: if I miss this or if that doesn't, you know,

1127
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: go the way that it's supposed to. I'm cool with

1128
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: that because in the end, he's going to get to

1129
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: be as successful as he needs to be.

1130
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful, man, because I feel like there's such

1131
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: a it's wonderful to hear, because I feel like we're

1132
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: living at a time where there's such a pressure to

1133
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: constantly be relevant, to constantly keep up with, you know,

1134
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: what everyone's doing. And now you've got a million platforms

1135
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 3: to stay relevant on and everyone's doing this and that,

1136
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: and so it sounds like you've created like a healthy

1137
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: detachment between who you are at your work and who

1138
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: you are at home. Yeah, and that's that's quite a

1139
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: beautiful thing.

1140
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that better working out long term.

1141
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: Like I said, I look like five ten years into

1142
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 2: the future and me chilling and me and my family

1143
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: seems way more realistic than me like ripping and running

1144
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: around still, so I might as well get used to it.

1145
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: Did you feel your dad was super involved in that

1146
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: way as well, you were saying earlier.

1147
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely, my dad was super involved with me,

1148
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: especially like through my teenage years. A lot of my

1149
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: time that I spent like early in the studios with

1150
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: my dad because he built a studio and was running it.

1151
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: He didn't know about music and he didn't know about

1152
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: any of that stuff, but I told him I was

1153
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: into it, and he built a studio and was like,

1154
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: all right, learn how to use the equipment, start writing songs,

1155
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: put an album out, do this, do that, And I

1156
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: did it all and he was like damn, I know.

1157
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: He was really going to do it. I'm like, yeah,

1158
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do.

1159
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: So like just through you know, seeing how important him

1160
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: being involved with what I was passionate about took me

1161
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: to the level that I'm at. It lets me know,

1162
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: like whatever my son and my daughter are passionate about.

1163
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 2: I have to experience those things with him. I can't

1164
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: just give them money and provide it for them. I

1165
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 2: have to actually do it with them. And that's gonna

1166
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: make a hell of a difference.

1167
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, how does your dad feel about seeing you out?

1168
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: My dad loves it, man, He's like in awe like

1169
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: all the time, and I think out of everything. He

1170
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 2: understands like how hard I work too, and he's really

1171
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: proud of it. Sometimes he gets a little bit worried,

1172
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: like he's like, is this too much? Like you know

1173
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I know you do a lot.

1174
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's cool on Bill for this, Like

1175
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: this is what I do. So he sees how much

1176
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: I work, and he sees how much effort I put in,

1177
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: like constantly.

1178
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: But he's really proud of me.

1179
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: And what's someone you learned from your mom?

1180
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: The value of family? Yeah?

1181
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: My mom taught me the value of family. She always

1182
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: kept me around my family members. She came me around

1183
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: my cousins, my aunts, my granddad. She even keeps me

1184
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: around my dad's side of the family. And they got

1185
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: divorced when I was two years old, but she still

1186
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: hangs out with my dad's sisters, my aunts, my cousins

1187
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: and all that on their side. So she keeps me

1188
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: in touch with them, she keeps my kids in touch

1189
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: with them. She does the whole genealogy of.

1190
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: The whole family.

1191
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: Like my mother is so family oriented, and that like

1192
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: rubbed off on me as well.

1193
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. Well, what's a misconception you think people have

1194
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 3: about you? If they have one or two?

1195
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't think at this point there is any misconceptions.

1196
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: I think there's just like learning more about me. I

1197
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: think that the more people learn about me, the more

1198
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: they see like how chill, how educated, how well spoken,

1199
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: and like thought out a lot of things that I

1200
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: do are and they start to really understand why the

1201
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: people who love me, you know, whether it's my music

1202
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: or I change your life in whatever way, they start

1203
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: to understand like where that comes from.

1204
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's something about you that people may not know

1205
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: that you'd like them to understand?

1206
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Along those lines, I think right now, I just want

1207
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: people to know, like how you said, like how detached

1208
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: I am from the whole success world. Like I'm cool

1209
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: with it, but like that's not the goal and it's

1210
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: not a lot of people say like, oh, well, you

1211
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: have money, so it's easy for you to say that.

1212
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: But I think you just reach certain points in your

1213
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: life where different things are important no matter how much

1214
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: money you have. And you know, some people, I'm thirty

1215
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: seven years old. Some people reach my age and this

1216
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: is the time that they start their business and they're like,

1217
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go hard and I'm gonna build my empire. Now,

1218
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: I was just lucky to have got a head started

1219
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: my twenties build my empire. And now I really understand, like,

1220
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, how to sustain it and maintain it and

1221
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: keep it going for the next ten twenty years. And

1222
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: those are the things is that I'm really really working on,

1223
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: along with the music, you know, which is super duper important.

1224
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: But it's really just about like making this thing last.

1225
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you're right. I don't think it's

1226
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: about how much money you do or during have. I

1227
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: think anything can become a drug and you can get

1228
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: addicted to me.

1229
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1230
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: And I remember, you know, Kevin Hart was sitting in

1231
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: that chair and he was talking about how success became

1232
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: a drug for him. He was just addicted to more

1233
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: and more of it. And so it's easy for you

1234
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: to get addicted and obsessed just and you're actually saying, well, actually,

1235
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to get addicted.

1236
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: No, yeah, No, it's my work. It's my job.

1237
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: It's what I'm really really good at, and I don't

1238
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: never want to give that up for you know, the

1239
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: normal life or anything like that. But I do value

1240
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: my normal life as much as I value you know,

1241
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: the I value the thirty thousand people on stage, But

1242
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: I also value being in my bed alone at night

1243
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: when the lights are off.

1244
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: But I love it.

1245
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I appreciate that, And I think we need

1246
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 3: more of that healthy thinking because I think if you

1247
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: only like one or the other, yeah, or if you

1248
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: start to detest one or the other, that's when it

1249
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: starts to get scary. Like a lot of people love

1250
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: being in the audience, they don't like being alone. For

1251
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: a lot of people like, oh god, I hate being

1252
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: with the fans now and I love being alone. And

1253
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: I think both of those can lead to a lot

1254
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 3: of like pain into it.

1255
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to work on both, and when you

1256
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: know what you're here for, you know which time is

1257
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: to do which one. I spend a lot of time

1258
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: working on the other side of it. To where I

1259
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: love my job and I love what I do, and

1260
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful to be able to make the amounts

1261
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: of money doing what I do. But that's not everything

1262
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: to me. I work as hard on my personal life

1263
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: as I do on that side of it. I'm in

1264
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: the you know, if I'm in the studio twelve hours,

1265
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: or if I'm on a plane, you know, sixteen hours,

1266
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: and I barely get any sleep, and I don't eat,

1267
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: and I do promo and I do a great show,

1268
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: and I do a meet and greet and I smile

1269
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: and I take everybody's picture.

1270
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: That's all part of the game.

1271
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: That's me going hard to make sure that that part

1272
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: of it lasts. When I'm by myself, I'm waking up,

1273
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: you know, at a good at a decent time. I'm

1274
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: going to sleep at a decent time. I'm working out,

1275
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm spending these certain hours. I do yoga, you know,

1276
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: there's just certain things that go with the process. And then,

1277
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: like you said, planning things around my kids. So it's

1278
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: like I'm making sure that I'm spending this family time

1279
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: where it's not they're getting the short end of the

1280
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: stick off of anything. So I'm working passionately and hard

1281
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: on my normal life the same way that I do

1282
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 2: and you know, my professional life, and sometimes it takes

1283
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: more energy in the normal life than it does in

1284
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: a professional life.

1285
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Yeah, sometimes it's easy to be

1286
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: disciplined at what right it's actually shot up for your family,

1287
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: and being disciplined at our right right wwise a whole

1288
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: other thing.

1289
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: And a lot of people they run from that because

1290
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 2: it's easier to you know, just put all the put

1291
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: all the guilt and responsibility.

1292
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta work, it's my job. It's this.

1293
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: It's easy for you to do that. It takes some time,

1294
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know, be a little

1295
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: bit nervous, be a little bit uncomfortable, be a little

1296
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: bit bored, but you're not going to be bored if

1297
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: you're around people you love, Like I'm never bored around

1298
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: my kids. But you know, take be passionate about your

1299
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: normal life as well.

1300
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you have so much older and

1301
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: discipline in your life. And when I'm hearing that, I'm like,

1302
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 3: sounds like everything's very structured and organized and intentional. Yeah,

1303
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: it's not like this random light.

1304
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not random at all.

1305
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: Every day is very regiment Yeah.

1306
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: It's definitely regimented. You know.

1307
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: I look at my schedule regularly. I'm updating the schedule regularly,

1308
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: and it just really built to make me happy. Like

1309
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm cool with everything that I have to do as

1310
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: long as I'm happy, Like you know what I'm saying,

1311
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: And if we talk about it and we arrange it

1312
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: and we put it in all the times that it's

1313
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be, I'll be really really happy and I

1314
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: would love to do it. But when things start coming

1315
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: out of left field and you have your idea of

1316
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: what an appropriate time is, he didn't run that by

1317
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: each other. Like, that's not going to make me happy

1318
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: to do this. And I'm doing this because I love it.

1319
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw your Men's health video with the MMA. Ye,

1320
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 3: it has become your fascination and I guess you workout

1321
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: routine for a couple of years now. I feel where

1322
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: did that start and how did that come about?

1323
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: A lot of my my big homies were getting and

1324
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: when I say big homies, I mean security. They were

1325
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: getting into MMA and doing jiu jitsu and just martial

1326
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: arts and just meeting all types of people. And this

1327
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: was like almost ten years ago, and they were just

1328
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: telling me like, bro, this is the next wave, like

1329
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: everybody's about to be doing this, blah blah blah, this's

1330
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: that and the other thing.

1331
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: You got to get into it. You got to get

1332
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: into it.

1333
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, it's cool, but you know, I'd rather, like,

1334
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: you know, smoke weed and be in the studio, like

1335
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But as soon as I

1336
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: started working out, I just developed like a passion for it,

1337
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: like out of nowhere. And it didn't make me slow

1338
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: down smoking any like I was able to like still

1339
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: get stoned. But I love training and I love working out,

1340
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 2: and I love like learning new things. So it just

1341
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: just kept building on top of each other, just building

1342
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: and building, and then I just you know, started to

1343
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: develop some skills that you know, we're still sharpening to

1344
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 2: this day.

1345
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: Do you go to watch as well or you just

1346
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: like training?

1347
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I watched the shows as well.

1348
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1349
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: I got a company called PFL that I'm involved with.

1350
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: I go to their shows all the I mean I

1351
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: go to their fights all the time. I go to

1352
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: boxing matches, just wrestling matches, there's jiu jitsu matches, there's

1353
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: all types of stuff. Combat sports is like, as you've seen,

1354
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: it's grown so much and so many influencers want to

1355
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: do it, and it's just a really good lifelong thing too,

1356
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: Like it's gotten popular for how much money it makes

1357
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: people and things like that, but as a lifelong practice,

1358
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: like I would suggest that for any and everybody.

1359
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there are men who are watching who want

1360
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: to get into helping fitness, what would be your best

1361
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: advice to them to motivate them, inspire and let them

1362
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: know how important it's been for you and it could

1363
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: be for them.

1364
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: I would just try to paint the scenario of you

1365
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: being about late thirties out with your kid. Somebody like

1366
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: is just in your face and your kid is standing

1367
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: right there, and you only got thirty seconds to prove

1368
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: to your child that you're their protector or somebody who's

1369
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: finna get what start working out now.

1370
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: Hilarious. It's funny because my next question is going to

1371
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: be about, like, you know, I feel like masculinity is

1372
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: such a big talking point right now, and you know

1373
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: a lot of men feeling like they've inherited the mistakes

1374
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: made by men in the past, and so men carrying

1375
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: around a lot of judgment men, feeling left behind in

1376
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: the conversation, the different things you've talked about today and

1377
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: the way you're organizing your life. Like, masculinity is a

1378
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: very broad spectrum. It's not just one way, right, And

1379
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 3: so have you ever thought about that raising a sun

1380
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: for yourself the message you prout. I feel like rapping

1381
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 3: hip hop has a version of masculinity before that's right,

1382
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that.

1383
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: I think I've always like approached masculinity just off of

1384
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: my vision of it and the most masculine in people

1385
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: that I respect, and just the situations that I look

1386
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: at as what you know a man should model themselves

1387
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: as are usually the most like moderate and mild tempered

1388
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: and just chill and kind of you know, observant and

1389
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: just guiding the situation in any way that you can

1390
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: position yourself to be that type of person. I've always

1391
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: felt like that was the more, you know, respectable thing.

1392
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: And we all have feelings and we all have emotions,

1393
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: and that's where like training in combat sports, it helps

1394
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: you like to put all of that stuff in the

1395
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: right place, because when you get a chance to get

1396
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: that stuff out, you realize where it has a place

1397
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: at where it doesn't, and a lot of people they

1398
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: don't have a place to get that stuff out, so

1399
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: they think that they're being masculine by like shouting or

1400
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: yelling or being rude to somebody, But really that should

1401
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: be like the last case scenario, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1402
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: that's why I say protecting your child, because I would

1403
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: never use what I know to hurt anybody unless it

1404
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: was to protect my family or myself. It wouldn't be

1405
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: in any other situation because to me, like, that's not cool,

1406
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: that's not tough, that's not even what it's for. So

1407
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: I think the idea of masculinity, it just comes from

1408
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 2: whoever is putting it out at the moment, what they've

1409
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: learned from it. And you know, the world judges the

1410
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: way that it does based off of their experiences because

1411
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: they think, you know, the most mean or the most scarier,

1412
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: or this, that and the other thing, but they haven't

1413
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: they show that. But there's not a lot of real

1414
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: situations that people are in that prove that that that

1415
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: that's the right thing. And from my experience, what's proven

1416
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 2: the most is the most mild, chilled, moderate people are

1417
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: the ones that you should probably be like the most

1418
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,919
Speaker 2: worried about. So the more that you can position yourself

1419
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 2: in life to have an understanding of your own emotions

1420
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: and be in control of your reactions to things, I

1421
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: think that just makes you more looked at as what

1422
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,959
Speaker 2: people would consider masculine or a leader or a provider

1423
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: or something like that, rather than like an emotional, you

1424
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 2: know person.

1425
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really powerful one. Man. I feel like

1426
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: you kind of feel the world going through two extremes

1427
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 3: where it's like masculinity. He used to be this bravado, chauvinistic, arrogant, yeah,

1428
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 3: you know, alpha male type, and then it swung to

1429
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 3: like being vulnerable and soft and this, and now I

1430
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 3: can't feel like it's kind of swinging back the other way. Yeah,

1431
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 3: And it's almost like I like how you described it,

1432
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 3: because it's not really hard or soft. It's kind of

1433
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: like the person who can like calm it down, move

1434
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 3: it along, knows what to do.

1435
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: With everything exactly exactly.

1436
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 2: Because I've seen both, you know, and I've been around,

1437
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: like growing up in Pittsburgh, you see a lot of

1438
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: dudes where it's like the street nigga type is like

1439
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: the hyper masculine, but a lot of those dudes end

1440
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: up like going to jail getting shot, or when they

1441
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: come home from their jail, they're not who they used

1442
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: to be, and all of that masculinity kind of goes

1443
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 2: away when you see like the perception of this person

1444
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: go away. You see who they really are. So it's like,

1445
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: deep down, who really are you? Inside out this whole

1446
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 2: thing that you're like putting off on people.

1447
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: And men have a lot.

1448
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: Of pressure, especially like growing up because we're more we're

1449
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: like really competitive. So it's like I could see it

1450
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: with my son, like being in sports with him and

1451
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: his friends, you know what I mean, they just off rip,

1452
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: just go to this certain type of personality, and I'm like, bro,

1453
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, you're like a better teammate if you tell

1454
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: dudes like yo, good shot, Like you know what I'm saying,

1455
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: good job, I see you, blah blah blah.

1456
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: But they don't understand that.

1457
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: Now as kids, they're so competitive and they're so at

1458
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: each other's throats and sometimes that carries on in life.

1459
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: But I think you just have to have an example

1460
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: of somebody to like let you know, like yo, it's

1461
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: cool to just be like chill and you know what

1462
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Like the homie. It's cool to talk shit

1463
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: sometimes too, because that shit is fun. But like, at

1464
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: the root of it, y'all still gotta be friends and

1465
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: care about each other and take care of each other.

1466
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: And that's the more you know what I mean, brotherly

1467
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: dope part about it, other than going at each other's next.

1468
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we need to see that modeled more. It's hard.

1469
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: You don't see it that much. Yeah, So it's hard

1470
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: to know as a man how to write how to

1471
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 3: do that. But you're right. If you look at the

1472
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: best athletes in the world, they're the ones who kept

1473
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: the calm when things were tough, right, they weren't the

1474
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 3: ones viewing anger. And it's interesting because MMA. I think

1475
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: people who haven't been trained in martial arts or don't

1476
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 3: know people who have often can think of it as

1477
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: like combat sports are like angry. But have you learned

1478
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 3: any practices from MMA that you feel applied really well

1479
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 3: to what we're talking about right now.

1480
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,440
Speaker 1: I think just getting punched in the face.

1481
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: You learn how to be calm and like not get

1482
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: emotional when somebody hits you in the face and you

1483
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: still got three rounds to do work, or you still

1484
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: got three minutes in around or five minutes in around

1485
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: and do work like you can't let your emotion.

1486
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: You have to be calm, you have to think.

1487
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: You have to remember your footwork, you have to remember

1488
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: your breathing, you have to remember defense so you don't

1489
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: get hit again. There's way more of the story then

1490
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: just I got punched in the face, and a lot

1491
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: of people will never really get that lesson or get

1492
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: that feeling of I got hit and I gotta keep

1493
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: it moving. You know, most people want something to happen

1494
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: as soon as they get hit. But you know, I

1495
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: think just through martial arts, and it sounds extreme and

1496
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: it sounds crazy, but I think everybody should get punched

1497
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: in the face.

1498
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying that, I get what you're saying.

1499
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 3: It's only at that point do you know how tolerant

1500
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 3: and still you are, Because up until then you can

1501
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 3: be like, I'm super cheer. Yeah, I'm calm, but it's

1502
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 3: responding to that.

1503
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of duce, just like if

1504
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: somebody punches me in the face, I'll kill them, But like, no,

1505
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: you won't.

1506
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: You gotta fight back.

1507
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: You got three minutes or you're gonna keep getting punched

1508
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: in the face. So it's like it's fun when you

1509
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: just remove everything and hit somebody in the face.

1510
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 3: How often do you get punched in the face when you're.

1511
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: We do sparring off and on, especially because I got

1512
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 2: to do like appearances and like that, because anything can happen,

1513
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: like my nose rings could come out, I get black eye,

1514
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: Like my forehead could get split.

1515
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna protect the face.

1516
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

1517
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: So when I know I'm not having to do too much,

1518
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: that's when we usually do do some sparring. Yeah, or

1519
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: we'll do light sparring where it's not like, you know,

1520
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 2: nobody's in too much danger.

1521
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that makes that makes sense. Yeah, it's

1522
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how you Yeah, how you doing that? Yeah. No,

1523
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm really glad we dove into the masculine anything because

1524
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's it's such a need right now,

1525
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: and I want, you know, men and women to both

1526
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, that we're kind of having these

1527
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: conversations that I think sometimes on the on the biggest screens,

1528
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: you don't see them.

1529
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1530
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's like the word masculinity has

1531
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: gotten so abused in to where people think it's a

1532
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: bad thing. And it's like, there are good examples of masculinity,

1533
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: Like I have a daughter, so she has to see

1534
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: what a masculine man is like. She has to see

1535
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: what a provider is like. She has to see with

1536
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: somebody who is going to make her feel protected as

1537
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: well as cared for, and you know, all of the

1538
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 2: things that describe what real masculinity is beyond you know,

1539
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: what you can do physically to somebody or even financially,

1540
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, emotionally being there for her.

1541
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that me having the right

1542
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: types of masculinity are gonna be you know, positive for

1543
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 2: her to see.

1544
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: And with this new album, what was the energy that

1545
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: you put into it? Like it's a sequel, so there's

1546
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: was there something you're trying to revisit bring back?

1547
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm just revisiting. Like when I did

1548
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: Cushion Orange Juice, the style of it was like, you know,

1549
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: stoner kid, everybody just smoke weed, be chill, and this

1550
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: is the soundtrack to the lifestyle. And I've done a

1551
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: lot with my music to where I've you know, had

1552
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: my take on what I think music's sound like at

1553
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 2: certain points I've had, you know, my take on what

1554
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: I think are like really big, huge records and what

1555
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: those should sound like. And then I've also just experimented with,

1556
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, what street culture is at the time and

1557
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: just what's popular to the kids. And I think with

1558
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: Cushion Orange Juice, it really resonated with people because of

1559
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: the lifestyle that it created and the things that I

1560
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: talked about in that lifestyle and the way that the

1561
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: music sounded and grooved with that lifestyle. So just being

1562
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: aware of that and knowing what type of chaotic state

1563
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: that we're in right now, I just felt like it

1564
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: was the perfect time to just reintroduce people to more

1565
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: laid back, chill just smoke some weed and vibe out,

1566
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: you know, and create a whole crowd of people.

1567
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: Who want to do the same thing. Yeah.

1568
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting, right like you it's like you're

1569
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 3: chilled out, but then you're super productive.

1570
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1571
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 3: How how do you hope that your audience kind of

1572
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: feels both for those as well?

1573
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,440
Speaker 2: Because it's it's been good because I think just through experience,

1574
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 2: I've learned that the majority of people who listen to

1575
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: my music end up bossing up.

1576
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

1577
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1578
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of artists now, you know, who

1579
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: were in like middle school, high school when Kushion Norris

1580
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: Ju just came out, or they watched My Day to

1581
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: Days and they're like, man, this is what really you know,

1582
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: let me know, this is what I needed to do

1583
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: to be an artist. Or I studied you every day

1584
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Or I dropped out of college and

1585
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: I got my friends and you know, we started our

1586
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: label and now we're Big, Sean and Low.

1587
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1588
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: So like, I've seen a lot of people who have

1589
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: taken my blueprint and turned it into you know, exactly

1590
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 2: what I've done with it. So I think the message

1591
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 2: gets across really really well, that you know, you'd be

1592
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 2: a pothead, but you be productive and you boss up

1593
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: and put all the homies on.

1594
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: I think they get that message really well.

1595
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: I love that.

1596
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1597
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: Does How does it feel that see you again as

1598
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: the second most viewed video on YouTube via a video

1599
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: of all time? Yes, insane, Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1600
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: It feels good.

1601
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: I think it feels better that I'm able to like

1602
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: walk around because most people they would think that if

1603
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 2: your video is that popular or if you have that

1604
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 2: much success that you're just like not even real. But like,

1605
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 2: to me, I can still go to my son's games.

1606
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: I could still you know, go pick records out. I

1607
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: could still go to the gym without a fleet of

1608
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: security with me. So like, I didn't sacrifice my sanity

1609
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: to be the second most viewed person in the world.

1610
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: So I'm happy about that.

1611
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 3: And such a great song too, to be known for.

1612
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: I feel it's a really good song.

1613
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: And shout out to Charlie too, man, Like Charlie did

1614
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: his thing, and the whole process of like making that

1615
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: song was like a dream come true because it was

1616
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: for a soundtrack, so you never know how that's gonna go.

1617
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 2: There was like ten other people who were supposed to

1618
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: be on the song, so you know, me writing a verse,

1619
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: I was just like writing a verse. I wasn't like,

1620
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: this is this song's gonna change my life? I need

1621
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: to sit down. I was just like, yoah, yeah, you go,

1622
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: like it's dope verse, Like I love the verse and shit.

1623
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: But they were like, you know, they it really connected

1624
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: with the people who were doing the movie at the time,

1625
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: and you know, shout out the weave and constance and

1626
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: Will and everybody, but we just kind of like just

1627
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 2: shaved it down and it just ended up making sense

1628
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: with it just being me and Charlie on there, and

1629
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: that song has taken us like super duper far.

1630
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 3: Do amazing. What was your motivation to go sober from alcohol.

1631
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: My motivation to be sober from alcohol was just I

1632
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: had dams for so long since I was able to drink,

1633
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: I've been drinking and I've never seen a reason to

1634
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: really stop because like, I just love partying, I love

1635
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,520
Speaker 2: being around people.

1636
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: I love, you know, just being a vibe.

1637
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: After one, I think it was one show, I just

1638
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: got like completely wasted, which was normal.

1639
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't really have too many

1640
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: like memories.

1641
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: Of places, Like I was like, I mean I love

1642
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: doing these shows, and shit was like I don't be

1643
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: remembering like you know what I mean anything. I was like,

1644
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 2: I want to kind of like experience this stuff, remember

1645
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 2: where I'm at, remember the people who I'm dealing with,

1646
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 2: actually enjoy it and not just be like turned up,

1647
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: you know. So, Yeah, it was just a time of

1648
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: like just gathering information and I'm real happy for that.

1649
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, was it hard to break away?

1650
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't difficult at all.

1651
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: I think when I want to do something, I'm good

1652
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 2: at it, Like if it means something to me, I

1653
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: have my own reasons for doing it. Nobody's making me

1654
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: do it, or even I feel like even if somebody

1655
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: made me do it, if it was like a challenge

1656
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: or something like that, or if like I had to

1657
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: for legal reasons or something like that, I wouldn't have

1658
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: a problem doing a lot of things. But you know,

1659
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: for me, it's just my lifestyle is so free and

1660
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 2: it's so fun. So half of the time it's like,

1661
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: why would I stop? But if I make up a

1662
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: reason for myself, I usually end up sticking to it.

1663
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, where's at the start of the interview

1664
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: as to you, what's the first thing you do when

1665
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 3: you wake up?

1666
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1667
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: What's what's the last thing you do before you go

1668
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 3: to bed?

1669
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: Last thing I do before I go to bed kiss

1670
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: my son and my daughter.

1671
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah I love that. Yeah, beautiful whiz I end every episode.

1672
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: You've been amazing, so generous with your time, great just

1673
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: great energy. I've really enjoyed spending this time with you. Man. Yeah,

1674
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I feel like I've learned so much

1675
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 3: about you. Today that I didn't know for sure.

1676
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1677
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: We end every episode with a final five. These have

1678
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 3: to be honested in one word to one sentence maximum, okay,

1679
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 3: and so these are your fast five Final five. The

1680
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 3: first question is what's the best advice you've ever heard

1681
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 3: or received?

1682
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: Just beu. That's from Snoop Dogg.

1683
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: Nice. Question number two, what's the worst advice you've ever

1684
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 3: heard or received?

1685
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Change your name from Wis Khalifa two. I don't know.

1686
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: They just told me that that name wasn't gonna work.

1687
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 3: Why didn't they like the name because it's just too.

1688
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Different, you know what I'm saying. Like, it didn't sound

1689
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: like nothing, It didn't give off. You didn't get any

1690
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: visual from that back in the day when I told

1691
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: you that that was my name. So a lot of

1692
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: people close people to me was like, I like you

1693
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: can wrap, You're really cool, but you need to change

1694
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 2: your name.

1695
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,520
Speaker 1: And it ended up working.

1696
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: Out for me because in the years that I was

1697
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: being discovered, it's a brand new name. So when you

1698
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: google that name, I'm the only thing that comes up.

1699
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: So it's like one of the most google names, like

1700
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, for that year. So the thing that people

1701
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: told me, wasn't gonna work, ended up working.

1702
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: I loved it. Where did it come from?

1703
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: Wisdoms short for wisdom and Leifa as leader or successor?

1704
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, How did you come across the word khalifa?

1705
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 2: Because that's my parents are, well, my grandparents, my granddad

1706
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: is a Muslim, right right?

1707
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 3: Very cool man, Thank you man, it's cool. It's cool.

1708
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 3: I love this hot too.

1709
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1710
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: Good look, I saw this on your March.

1711
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: Merch walking billboard.

1712
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 3: Baby.

1713
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: Where is me?

1714
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Question number three, what's something that you used to

1715
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: value that you no longer value.

1716
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: I used to really enjoy going to night clubs. I

1717
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: don't enjoy it anymore because I feel like the music

1718
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 2: isn't the same. I feel like people don't really dance anymore,

1719
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: Like they're just in like sections, just kind of chilling,

1720
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: and it just kind of defeats the purpose of going out.

1721
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: Like I never went out just to look cool. I

1722
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: will go out to get girls. And I really don't

1723
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: like chase women all like that no more. And I

1724
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: think it's just a polite thing to do like normally,

1725
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: Like like I said, anymore, because like normally, even being

1726
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: in a relationship, I would just be like yo, it's

1727
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: a part of my life. Like you know what I'm saying,

1728
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to be around hell of chicks. Get used

1729
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: to it.

1730
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1731
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: That's what I would do before, but now I don't

1732
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 2: really like I don't really care for that shit.

1733
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,839
Speaker 3: No more question before how would you define your current purpose?

1734
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: I would define my current purpose as a leader and

1735
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: as a provider and as somebody who a lot of

1736
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 2: people look up to. So it doesn't matter what I

1737
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 2: get personally, It's more about what I do for others.

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 3: And fifth and final question, we asked this to every

1739
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: guest who's ever been on the show. If you could

1740
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 3: create one law that everyone in the world had to follow,

1741
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 3: what would it be?

1742
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: Smoke weed every day?

1743
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 3: I love it Christian Orgies too. Thank you so much.

1744
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 3: This is so much fun.

1745
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: I like a jeans too. Thank you.

1746
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 3: If this is the year that you're trying to get creative,

1747
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 3: you're trying to build more, I need you to listen

1748
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 3: to this episode with Rick Rubin on how to break

1749
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 3: into your most creative self, how to use unconventional methods

1750
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: that lead to success, and the secret to genuinely loving

1751
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: what you do. If you're trying to find your passion

1752
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: and your lane. Rick Rubin's episode is the one for you.

1753
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value,

1754
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: Like as an artist, if you like it, that's all

1755
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:30,440
Speaker 1: of the value.

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01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 3: That's the success comes when you say I like this

1757
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 3: enough for other people to see it.