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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move to sticks DJ. Bucky

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Speaker 1: back with you, Buck. What's up man? Man? Everything's good?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What's happen? World? Thursday night for Thursday Night.

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Speaker 1: Come join us tonight, Come hang out with us, Bucky, myself,

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Speaker 1: Now go to twitch dot tv slash, move the sticks

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Speaker 1: and watch the game with this a lot of fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it should be a lot of fun, man. And this

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Speaker 1: is a game that has a lot of entrigue um

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Speaker 1: So it should be a lot of fun to sit

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Speaker 1: they done in a year to look so drastingly different

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Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna hit on today, gonna hit on

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Speaker 1: There's a great article I read this morning. Um, I

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Speaker 1: But Kevin Clark, who's outstanding over at the Ringer, he

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Speaker 1: Like we talk about certain guys can pull you know,

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Speaker 1: always and I think the frustrating part of the discussion

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Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterback around draft time DJ is

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Speaker 1: They traded for him. Uh. Jalen Mills has been solid

429
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Van Noys played really well. Um, they just did

430
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: a nice job. Matt Judan has been a stud. He's

431
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's got like nine sacks he's played. Did

432
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,479
Speaker 1: you expect he was? He was. He's a good player.

433
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: He's a really good player. And I think you started

434
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: to see him come on, um towards the end of

435
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: his time there with the Ravens. I can pull it

436
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: up real quick, but um, I feel like you started

437
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: to see, you know, this guy had tons of production

438
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: in college, and you started to see that guy, you know,

439
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of emerge here um during his time in Baltimore.

440
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: And he's kind of just like that. He's a power guy. Um,

441
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: kind of fits that that mold, you know. And the Ravens.

442
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen he had nine and a half sacks

443
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: Um then he had six only played fourteen games, so

444
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: he's already got nine and a half this year. I

445
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: thought it was fascinating because they've gone to the Ravens

446
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: well before. They tried it with the Daily Thomas and

447
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: it did not work out well. But this is more

448
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: of a Patriots type player. Yeah, and and it's funny,

449
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: right so uh and talking to people in the building, Uh,

450
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens at times had some immaturity issues with some

451
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 1: of the players and stuff like that. And then so

452
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: I wondered, you know, everyone knows how button up the

453
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: Patriots program is, you know, from top to Buttom, but

454
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: I think it's another example of how players ultimately create

455
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: structure and discipline and clarity. And I think there's definitely

456
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: some clarity in terms of how you're going to play

457
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: in New England. There's also like that fundamental focus and

458
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I do believe that guys can get better if they

459
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: buy in. And I think you've seen that with Jude

460
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: and and I think they had a very clear idea

461
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: of how they wanted to play him, and he's flourished

462
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: in it. And it's just amazing to me that a

463
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: team you know that. I mean, you know, we're having

464
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: this debate and a lot of it is like what

465
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: I call high take media debate, like, oh, Tom Brady,

466
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: but Belichick this and that. I don't think you can

467
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: underscore Bill Belichick's greatness as a coach because of the consistency,

468
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the consistency that always be in there. We

469
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: can talk about Tom Brady being there whatever, but you

470
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: won't find a great player. I mean a great coach

471
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: who hasn't had great players, and so that's what it requires.

472
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: But I will give him credit because this job that

473
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: they're doing it we'll see if they can maintain it.

474
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: It's a really impressive job that this team is done

475
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: in terms of the rebuild, because even look like the pages,

476
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's the scary part for everybody. Everyone

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: is like, man, I thought he'd be down for the

478
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: next five or six years. It gives some other people

479
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: chance to go to the top of the thing and

480
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: Loryen Beho you look up in the pages, are right there,

481
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: just like just just offering right there. No, and and

482
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: you know a couple of interesting things from doing the

483
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: next Gen study on this as well. I mean, look

484
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: at the Patriots defense. Mentioned Judean He's tent in the

485
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: NFL and pressure rate, so he's he's outstanding. Christian Barmore

486
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: leads all rookie interior defensive line with twenty two pressures um.

487
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: That's tenth, tied for tenth among all interior defensive linement leaue.

488
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: He has been a great, great pick for them at Alabama,

489
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: somebody who came on late in Alabama. I think Obviously

490
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: the relationship there between Belichick and save and probably helped

491
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: get that endorsement for him. But he's been outstanding, one

492
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: of the best rookies in the league. And the other

493
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me and I saw this

494
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: um preparing for the Chargers game against the Patriots a

495
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. They send three or you were

496
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: rushers on two of dropbacks. That's the most of any

497
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: team in the league. There's only two teams over in

498
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: the entire league, and there's nothing First of all, I

499
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: was talking to Chris Long about this, and then nothing

500
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: more frustrating for a defensive lineman when you only get

501
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: the rush three. But there's nothing also more frustrating for

502
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback when you've got to comb through eight bodies

503
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: back there in coverage and with that three, it's not

504
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: like they just line up in a three man front

505
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: and rush. They give you different looks and they're able

506
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: to get one of those three in a in a

507
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: pretty favorable matchup, So you still get a little bit

508
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: of pressure. Now you've got all that you've got to

509
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: sort through. You got to sort through it. And the

510
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about what they do from a cover standpoint

511
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: it's not your high school three man rush eight guys

512
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: in coverage where everyone is just spot dropping and looking

513
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: at the quarterback and you're like, oh, I'm gonna take

514
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: the check down. They're doing where they'finitely a man to

515
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: man or man match and they're you know, you locked up,

516
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: and then you can't figure out who the switches are

517
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: and who's there, and they've got people underneath the rat

518
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: to the check down very very quickly. They make it complex.

519
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: But this is a team that is always opted for

520
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: coverage over pressure, and it's just an amazing thing for

521
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: me because DJ when is the last time they've had

522
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: like what we call an elite great pass rusher. They

523
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: had Chandeler Jones and they were okay, let him walk,

524
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: We're good, let them go. Hey, that's gonna be a

525
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: little price for us. They tend to put their money

526
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: in the back end as opposed to the front. And

527
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: I think the fascinating discussion would be at the time

528
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: when we talk about team building, the first things are

529
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: like pass rush and corners. Hey, why don't you what's

530
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: your go after hy end rushers? You know, yeah, but

531
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: they also run games as much or more than anybody

532
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: in the league, and they're outstanding at it, and they

533
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: use their linebackers to get involved with that. They'll use

534
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: van Oi from off the ball and let him just

535
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: pick the crud out of interior un loops off him.

536
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: Here's here's a here's an interesting other interesting number. I'll

537
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: give you here my last next gen nugget for for

538
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: this game. So you talked about the fact that they

539
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just a garden variety you know,

540
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: rush three, drop eight situation, or even it's not just

541
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: pure man you talk about man match. How about this

542
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: as a quarterback when you're trying to get indicators. Um,

543
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I had a quarterback coach

544
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: that used to use the phrase that safeties are the

545
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: window into the soul of the defense. So the safeties

546
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: in their location will tell you what what you're gonna see.

547
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: So Adrian Phillips safety right m fifteen of his fifteen

548
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: percent of his snaps is a line of scrimmage defender,

549
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: percent of his snaps as a linebacker, eighteen percent of

550
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: his snaps as a slot corner, eleven percent of his

551
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: snaps as a wide corner, percent of his snaps as

552
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: a deep safety. Okay, let's give me. Let me give

553
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: another one. Kyle Dugger safety, seven percent of his snaps

554
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: is a line of scrimmage defender as a linebacker in

555
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: the slot, ten percent out wide, and seventeen percent is

556
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: a deep safety. Have fun figuring out what the heck

557
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: those guys are doing. Okay, so then let me pull

558
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: it behind the curtain as to why they're able to

559
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: do this. Um. The Patients are one of the few

560
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: teams that cross train all of their dbs. So the

561
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: definition of cross training mean I take corners and I

562
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: have them practice at safety. I have corners practice at

563
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: nickel and dime, and have safeties practice at nickel linebacker

564
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: and all of those things. And what it does want

565
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: it increases the aptitude of all your players because they

566
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: know how they fit in the puzzle, because they now

567
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: see how the other parts of the pozzle work too.

568
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: It gives you the ultimate flexibility to be able to

569
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: change your packages each and every week. We will run

570
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: the same defense, but guess what, we got different bodies here. Hey,

571
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: cal Dugger, this week you're the jack linebacker and Phillips

572
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: you the deep safety. What okay? This week, Hey, you're

573
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: a Phillips you'd alert you're coming off the edge. Dugger,

574
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: you're in the post, and what you're doing. For players

575
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: who have used to doing it, they're just like, oh,

576
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing practice all the time. But

577
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: as you talk about for the quarterback, as we are

578
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: so prone to identify numbers, Wait a minute, mhm is

579
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: normally Oh he'said a lot. What why why do you think?

580
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: Why do you think? Why do you think Tom Brady

581
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: was so vocal and upset about the number changes because

582
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: those safeties and linebackers are indicators, and now you've got

583
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: the numbers mess Even if you memorize the number journey,

584
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: it still messes with you. It messes with you because,

585
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: as you know, we set the protection off the mic.

586
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: So when you're watching the game and you hear the

587
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: TV copy, you hear the quarterback or the center will

588
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: identify a forty four is to Mike. Okay, So then

589
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: that says, hey, we're sliding away from me, we're sliding

590
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: to them. We kind of as a double rea guy

591
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: running back all that. Well, now you have this and me,

592
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: but of bodies and this ever changing stuff, you don't

593
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: know who to set it on, which is also why

594
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: more of these defensive coaches are going to sub packages

595
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: because you've got a bunch of little dudes on the

596
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: field running around making a ton of plays. Which leads

597
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: me to this question. I know teams have done this

598
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: in the past, but I wonder if we asked around

599
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: two teams that are playing against the Patriots during the

600
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: week of practice, if you just don't put any numbers

601
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: on any jerseys, you know what I mean, because you

602
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: can give younies just just yellow pennies. Give me eleven

603
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: yellow pennies over there, and let's just play the position.

604
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: This guys lined up as a linebacker, so I'm gonna

605
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: treat him as an It might be a corner or safety,

606
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: but where he is right now, he's playing linebacker. So

607
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: we have to try and just close your eyes and

608
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: eliminate the numbers from your from your thought process. It's

609
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: really a clever strategy, and it's one of those things.

610
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: Particularly they have taken it to the next level. Now.

611
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: I would say they don't do the high wire act

612
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: that Mike Pennon and Rex and those guys do, where

613
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: they get super creative and they have all the exotic blisses.

614
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: But the moving around of the people in the back end.

615
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: And that's a great stat The next year stuff with

616
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Dougger and Adrian Phillips, like how they just have been

617
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: deployed a bunch of different spots. DJ, that's what you want,

618
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: like in college because to me and I think he

619
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: might have spent some time with the guys at Iowa

620
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: State and Venables talking about because that's big twelve defense. Yeah,

621
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: that's odd dime doing stuff that you have to do

622
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: in college to deal with the the explosion of the spread. Oh,

623
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: we can put dime defense on the field. We can

624
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: put as many little dudes on the field as we

625
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: can so we can have more speed to match up.

626
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: And then if they're able to handle the responsibilities and

627
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: making tackles and doing all in the ring game, it

628
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: gives you an advantage. That's the thing is they have.

629
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: They have safeties and and secondary players that are really

630
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: really good in support. And that's why when you another thing,

631
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: like I said, it was my last number one of

632
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: the one kind of on that point, the Patriots have

633
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: a line eight plus defenders in the box of the

634
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: plays this season, the fifth highest in the NFL. Now,

635
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're all big guys I think you're

636
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna get undersized secondary players in the box. But they

637
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: have run responsibility and they're fine with it. They are

638
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: fine with it, and you know why, it also works

639
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: because what they're doing also matches how they practice. I

640
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: would contend that when you talk to people that have

641
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: come out of there, it is all fundamentals. They tackle

642
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Speaker 1: all the time, they run to the ball all the time,

643
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: and so if you're gonna play a bunch of little dudes,

644
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: you've gotta make sure that they're confident tackles. And the

645
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: only way you can be a good tackler you have

646
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: to wrap it. So you have to do it all

647
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Speaker 1: the time. And so when a lot of these teams

648
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Speaker 1: are scaling back on the amount of contact that they

649
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Speaker 1: have in practices, Nope, the pages are still practicing like

650
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Speaker 1: his nineteen eighties, we can put the pads on as

651
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Speaker 1: many times as we can early in the season. We're

652
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna tackle, we're gonna hit, we're gonna work on pad level, leveraging,

653
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: all those other things, and we're going to beat you up.

654
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Speaker 1: Not only because of some of the simplicity yet the

655
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Speaker 1: complexity of the scheme, but because we just do the

656
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: fundamentals better than you did, no doubt. Um, all right,

657
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Speaker 1: this is a fun discussion. I want to get to

658
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Speaker 1: one other quick topic before we wrap things up. We're

659
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Speaker 1: gonna do that right after this, all right, Buck. I

660
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: tweet this out the other day. Uh. You know, I'm

661
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: sitting here getting ready for this game, watching Kyle Pitts,

662
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm watching him flexed out, and I'm watching teams

663
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: match them with nickel personnel. After a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: you know, the week before watching Mike Asiki. Who the

665
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: numbers I got updated on him by the way of

666
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: his apps have been detached, And so it begs the

667
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: question why even go through the charade? The the opposing

668
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: teams don't know they're not tight ends. Their own teams

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Speaker 1: know they're not tight ends. Why in the world, I

670
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: don't care if they give you the depth chart and

671
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: they have him listened as a tight end, cross out

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Speaker 1: the te We've got to put a different name on that.

673
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Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, whatever name you guys want

674
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Speaker 1: to you want to call him the flex, you want

675
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: to call him the big Slot? You know what do

676
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: you want to call him? What do you want to

677
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: call him? Here? Yeah? So, uh, on the board, remember

678
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: in the draft room used to always have uh two

679
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: designations for tight ends. We had we had went him

680
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Speaker 1: why is and h is right? But this is why?

681
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: But then uh, near the end, we were talking about

682
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: them as a flex you know, because they're always flexed

683
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: out there out wid they're basically a I saw your

684
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: tweet when you talk about a jumble wide receiver, you

685
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: have to treat him in such so for me, when

686
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: i see Cale Pits run into the field, if I'm

687
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: on defense going now, I'm like Nicole Nico, Nicole, Nicole Nicole,

688
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: because I'm treating him that's what they do. I'm treating Oh,

689
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: he's a he's a wide receiver. Now the problem is

690
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: do you have someone in your secondary that can match

691
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: up specifically with that guy? Because that guy can't be

692
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: mashed up with with the linebacker and maybe old school safety.

693
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: It almost requires you define Jalen and Derwin someone who

694
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: can handle the responsibility because I think as we talked

695
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: about that position changing, I think and now is going

696
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: to force us on defense to find another position to

697
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: be able to match up with that. It's a big nickel,

698
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: big nickel player because you have two different but you

699
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: got your regular nickel where you have the smaller defender

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00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: that is playing your third corner, and then you have

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Speaker 1: a big nickel where you're playing with three safeties in

702
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: two corners. Yeah, they have both things, I think. So

703
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I think we've got that. I mean that that exists

704
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: in terms of the big nickel. Robert Mays said that.

705
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: He said, Nate, you want to give Nate Tyson credit

706
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Speaker 1: coined the phrase of power slot. Um, it's kind of

707
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: like a power forward, like a power slot, like okay, yeah, yeah,

708
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean small forward, power forward. So we kind of

709
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: could have a we need to have a small we

710
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: can do the same thing, right, a small slot in

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00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: the power slot. I mean, it is. It is. We've

712
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: talked about the basketball team because we haven't seen Michael

713
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Thomas played this year, but basically Michael Thomas is a

714
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: big slot receiver. Larry Fitzgerald at the end of this

715
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: time at power slot, I like it. You know, it's

716
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: those big guys that can do a handful of different things.

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Speaker 1: And so it's man, I want to see I want

718
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: to see which news uh sorry, which television network that

719
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: broadcast games is going to be the first one. When

720
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: they announced starting lineups that is going to finally say

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00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: we're not going to put We're gonna do it next

722
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: to them. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it tonight.

723
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do it tonight. The Falcons run out and

724
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Speaker 1: the Falcons run out on Amazon and you're talking about

725
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: the lots, were like, ignore the power slot. Yeah, power slot.

726
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: I think I like that. I like I like because

727
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: it's the basketball, right, You've got the small slot in

728
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: the power you talked about it. Like even even when

729
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: we talk about, um, these guys lead them to the draft,

730
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: we talk about uh, tight ends with NBA power forward

731
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: or small forward like size and why receiver like skills.

732
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: That's that's what it is because I need them to

733
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: box out over the middle of the field and down

734
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Speaker 1: in the red zone to win and all the other stuff.

735
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it. That's it. And I think, you know, receivers,

736
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: we've been doing that forever now. Uh, you know, we

737
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, a slot receiver, a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: x Z. However we wanted to label it um, but

739
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Speaker 1: I think this is a new this is a new

740
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: position here that's that kind of exists, So it needs

741
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: a name. So that's our that's our that's what we

742
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: come up with. Her power slot, I think is a

743
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: good one. Um, all right, we're gonna be right back

744
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: after this, all right, buck, This has been a fun

745
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: one man. Anything else you want to get to before

746
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: we get out of here? That was funny. Anytime we

747
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: can do a deep dive on that. I know was

748
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Speaker 1: very Patriot center, but I think what it was was

749
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: an examination on how they have built their team, how

750
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: they nurtured the quarterback, and how other teams. So maybe

751
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: just pay a little close attention to how they've helped

752
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: Macjonalds and some of these other guys get off to

753
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: a good start. Because scot k league and if I

754
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: want to win, I certainly want to copy and steal

755
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: ideas from the best. That is a blueprint, is what

756
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: that is for any team that currently has a young

757
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: quarterback or is getting ready to bring in a young quarterback.

758
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: The Patriots have laid it out for you. That is

759
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: a blueprint for how to do it. Now, go get

760
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: it done. Easier said than done, I think, but it's

761
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: all out there for you again. Come hang with us

762
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: tonight if you're listening to this on Thursday, Twitch dot

763
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: tv slash, move the sticks. It'll be a great hang

764
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: as we watched the Falcons and the Patriots do battle.

765
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back next week as well. Look forward

766
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: to to talk with you guys again. I think we've

767
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: got a phenomenal guest lineup next week. I'm not going

768
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: to spoil it, but one of them, yeah, maybe a

769
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer defensive Player of the Year, but

770
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna give you any names. But he'll

771
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: be with us next week. That's gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys, See you next time. Right here, I'm

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Speaker 1: with the sticks. Thought bout half thought to love, not

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Speaker 1: want thout half that thought to love ut