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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff Mom Never told You from House top

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Caroline and I'm Kristin. Today we're talking about something that

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be so depressing, something that is typically awesome. It's

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Speaker 1: women cycling pro women cycling. Yeah. We got a letter

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Speaker 1: not too long ago from a listener and average cyclist

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Speaker 1: named Gali g l I. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly, um,

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Speaker 1: And it was around when the Tour de France kicked

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Speaker 1: Golly Rode and saying, hey, ladies, you should look into

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Speaker 1: women's pro cycling because there's a lot of inequity going

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Speaker 1: on versus men's pro cycling. Yeah, I mean so much inequity,

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Speaker 1: and not just recently. This is not just like a

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Speaker 1: professional cycling, there has been quite a discrepancy not only

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Speaker 1: in the opportunities for women, but also as we're about

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Speaker 1: to look into what women can make financially and to

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Speaker 1: meet Caroline, part of why this research was so eye

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Speaker 1: opening is that up until this point, almost any time

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Speaker 1: we've mentioned women and bicycles. In the podcast, it's been

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Speaker 1: very celebratory because the bicycle opened up this new form

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Speaker 1: women to shed their victorian bustles and put on bloomers

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Speaker 1: and pedal away from the home, et cetera. But uh,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to competitive bikes and cycling, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where the celebration stops. Because let's start out May one,

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Speaker 1: eighteen Paris. Friends, Yeah, we have the first bike race

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Speaker 1: in history for men only of course, but yeah, still

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Speaker 1: the first bike race in history. And this is coming

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Speaker 1: from the It's about the bike blog. And then uh,

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Speaker 1: we found the eighteen nineties six book which I posted

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Speaker 1: on tumbler if you want to look at it. The

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Speaker 1: cover is adorable and hilarious and very kitchy. It's called

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Speaker 1: Bicycling for Ladies by Maria Ward and it contains advice

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Speaker 1: on maintenance, repair, clothing, et cetera, and Ward rights. I

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Speaker 1: found it in Bicycling as an other sports essayed by

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Speaker 1: them women and girls bring upon themselves centria from many sources.

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Speaker 1: I've also found that the centa, though it almost invariably

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Speaker 1: is deserved, it's called forth not so much by what

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Speaker 1: they do as the way they do it. So basically

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Speaker 1: she was saying that women were attracting some negative attention

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Speaker 1: by bicycling and the way that they cycle, and how

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Speaker 1: how little has changed. Yeah, how dare they peddle so

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Speaker 1: provocatively down on the street and their big poofy pants.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just titillating. Um. Well, so move forward,

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Speaker 1: way forward to nineteen fifty eight. Again, in France, we

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Speaker 1: have the first Union Cyclist International. That's not at all

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Speaker 1: how that's pronounced by the way women's bike race. The

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Speaker 1: first u CEI men's race, however, was fifty eight years

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Speaker 1: prior to that. Yeah, so it took quite a while

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Speaker 1: for women to even get their first u c I

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Speaker 1: race and the Union Cyclist International. So we're very American, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I you know what, I'm minored in Spanish in college. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's like pre semestors of French. I just use it

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Speaker 1: or lose it. Um. But that Union, you see I,

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Speaker 1: organization global organization for amateur and pro cyclists. They're the

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Speaker 1: ones who are behind the toward France and these major races.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that for instance, it took them fifty

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Speaker 1: eight years to catch up. Is it's just a foreshadowing

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Speaker 1: of what is to come. Um And in that nineteen

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Speaker 1: who won, and she retired in nineteen seventy four with

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Speaker 1: a career total of nineteen victories in the u c

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Speaker 1: I Road World Championship. So anyone who wants to argue

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Speaker 1: well it was Elsie Jacobs. She's one of many. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these people have existed since the beginning. It's just that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until the nineteen eighty four Summer Olympics that

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Speaker 1: we have the first Olympic women's cycling event. And during

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Speaker 1: this event, American Connie Carpenter Finnie won the gold in

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Speaker 1: a field of forty five competitors. Compare that to the

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Speaker 1: first men's Olympic cycling race in they only had seven

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Speaker 1: years later. Well, this is a similar kind of issue

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Speaker 1: But cycling lags even behind marathon running and the triathlon

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Speaker 1: now that that we're dealing with as far as women's

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Speaker 1: which we'll get into, as far as you know, women

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Speaker 1: should be able to participate in the same types of races,

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Speaker 1: something that plagues a lot of women's pro sports in general,

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Speaker 1: and then smaller prizes. Once you actually put in all

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Speaker 1: and you're racing in the biggest women's pro cycling races

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Speaker 1: Gali wint it out in her letter that she wrote us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's do a little comparison. The Tour de France

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Speaker 1: winner Chris Froome earned more than seven thousand dollars an hour.

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Speaker 1: That's almost as much as we make podcasting, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's so close. Yeah, almost. But when you look at

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Speaker 1: calendars today, the purse for that it's just about six

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Speaker 1: And following the Parks Casino Philly Cycling Classic, a group

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Speaker 1: with women's pro cyclers. No, their quads are probably incredible.

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Speaker 1: now why you know you might see me in Caroline.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm riding the bike and carolines in one of

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Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong and company. Um, but where are the women?

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