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Speaker 4: and Kyle Yeomans.
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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. Welcome in, everybody.
Speaker 5: We've got Patrick no Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez sipping on
Speaker 5: his Black Rifle Coffee in his Black Rifle Coffee mug.
Speaker 5: And then we've got Isaiah Standback fresh off the West Coast.
Speaker 5: Fact but I was back in the building today. I'm
Speaker 5: Kyle Yeomans. We've got Cris Beam of course in the back.
Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody. How was your trip? It was good?
Speaker 1: It was good. I mean we we.
Speaker 5: Got to watch the game together on Sunday, finished the
Speaker 5: first half of Cowboys O t knocked it out and
Speaker 5: then had some technical difficulties with the Marvey and overshown
Speaker 5: and then said by later.
Speaker 3: I know I ate away a little bit at our time,
Speaker 3: but he's always a good, good interview.
Speaker 1: He had a heck of a game.
Speaker 3: Heck of a game. I know you guys have covered already.
Speaker 3: I've been checking in on y'all. Y'all do the head
Speaker 3: of a job you watched? Yeah, absolutely, I watched man.
Speaker 1: As we were as we were watching you. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: we're sitting here wat.
Speaker 5: I mentioned at one point, but it is weird like
Speaker 5: sitting in here with that chair well, I mean, I
Speaker 5: guess Josh was sitting over there, so it wasn't an
Speaker 5: empty chair, but just.
Speaker 1: Not still one. It was still.
Speaker 5: But looking over to our second monitor that that is
Speaker 5: constantly on NFL Network, And the reason why we keep
Speaker 5: it on NFL Network is because of breaking moves and
Speaker 5: just in case something happens, we can tell you live
Speaker 5: on the air.
Speaker 1: But when we look over there and.
Speaker 5: It's just I say, I wearing a Kingdome shirt, he's
Speaker 5: got his body on the Seattle repping.
Speaker 1: As always.
Speaker 5: You had a nice like salmon Polo on on Monday.
Speaker 5: I mean I found I found the outlets out here.
Speaker 5: I found the outlet store.
Speaker 1: You can't have money with no no, No, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it is. I'm always gonna be on a discount
Speaker 1: of check.
Speaker 6: Okay, Iaay, stand back is not afraid of a different
Speaker 6: kind of color, you know what I'm saying, Like always
Speaker 6: put on something different like a tan or a toe
Speaker 6: or just yeah, I had yellow shoes Gray.
Speaker 7: I feel like you you had a yellow.
Speaker 1: Yellow llow shoes on. Well, did you find some Jordan's
Speaker 1: final they find Jordan outlet.
Speaker 3: There were actually some Monopoly one drops, little Monopoly editions,
Speaker 3: the utilities, the utility of versions.
Speaker 6: I feel like you go to Lows in the paint
Speaker 6: department and they're like that shirt you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, right, yeah, spinning fat color of Hey dudes.
Speaker 3: But that was hard because, like, listen, I found a
Speaker 3: Hey Dude outlet like you like, Hey dudes, Beamer, We're
Speaker 3: going on, We're going there's a whole store.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's out there by Motor Speedway.
Speaker 3: There's a outlet st I don't know the name an outlet, wow,
Speaker 3: but they have a Hay Dudes out.
Speaker 1: I think they are like the Tanger outlets out there.
Speaker 1: Hey dudes, if y'all listening, we will wear some Hay
Speaker 1: dues on the show. They don't. They don't need any
Speaker 1: money to us. What's that not yet?
Speaker 4: Hey, dudes, my brother now, George Brand They have a
Speaker 4: sponsorship with QB one want to slash those over.
Speaker 1: This, that would be nice. They got another QB the
Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, Stroud, Yeah they did.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: I want to hear your thoughts on the game though,
Speaker 5: the first time you've you've been on the Talking Cowboys airwaves.
Speaker 5: What'd you think about thirty three seventeen over Cleveland?
Speaker 3: I thought they physically handled Cleveland, and I was pleasantly
Speaker 3: surprised of that. Cleveland, for whatever reason, teams do not
Speaker 3: teams that run the ball well. For whatever reason, whenever
Speaker 3: they faced Dallas, Cowboys abandoned the run. And I'm not
Speaker 3: sure what that is. And I'm not too concerned now either,
Speaker 3: because they worked at the benefit of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: But Dallas was able to enforce their will on Cleveland,
Speaker 3: and that's not what I expected going into the game.
Speaker 3: I just knew that Cleveland's would to come out and
Speaker 3: run the ball thirty five times and just say, Dallas
Speaker 3: stop us. But they, for whatever reason, thought it was
Speaker 3: a good idea to put it in the hands of
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. That was what we were hoping that they
Speaker 3: would do, because we knew right just from being here
Speaker 3: on the show that that was not their strong suit.
Speaker 3: We all felt that Deshaun Watson has lost velocity. We
Speaker 3: all felt that Deshaun Watson is not the most accurate quarterback,
Speaker 3: and we knew that he had to utilize his legs.
Speaker 3: And this defense is fast. Dallas's defense is fast. You
Speaker 3: add in Zimmer's schemes and they're even more dangerous than
Speaker 3: once then when they were once worked, when they were
Speaker 3: just playing primarily man to man. So you couple all
Speaker 3: that with the fact that they controlled the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 3: and I was very pleased with what they provided. Dak
Speaker 3: didn't have to do much. You know, what he did
Speaker 3: was was it was good enough. He didn't need to
Speaker 3: put up no crazy numbers. Uh C d list say
Speaker 3: I was wrong, CD was ready. I didn't think CD
Speaker 3: was going to be ready to be up there and
Speaker 3: handle our entire game and have guys pushing on him
Speaker 3: and you know, pressing press man and all that. He
Speaker 3: handled himself very well. He came prepared awesome. No injuries
Speaker 3: on that front. On that front, we did.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure you have news and knows
Speaker 1: in terms of Fergie.
Speaker 3: But overall, man, I was happy and it was good
Speaker 3: to see Overshown show up big, big started kid.
Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't see that coming at all. Though the word
Speaker 3: was Mayor's lifou and then all of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden it was unofficial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unofficial. There you go, and Overshown showed up. He
Speaker 3: I'm sure he got emotional, just like we saw Trayvon
Speaker 3: Diggs get emotional, because coming off of an injury and
Speaker 3: stepping onto the field and looking like you once looked
Speaker 3: is the best thing in the world for an athlete
Speaker 3: because there's so many concerns and so many questions and
Speaker 3: so much doubt and to go out there and be
Speaker 3: able to run and cut and hint the way that
Speaker 3: you once did.
Speaker 1: I know he's he's he's on cloud nine right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs as well, spoke with Trayvon after the After
Speaker 4: the game. Obviously he had the interception and his talk
Speaker 4: about strapping guys like you could not get a pass
Speaker 4: off against Trayvon in coverage, but Trayvon said it was
Speaker 4: real emotional, like he got tear.
Speaker 7: Got before the game too.
Speaker 3: Sounds from the sideline confirmed that you saw him hug
Speaker 3: and have an emotional exchange with Al Harrison.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't even look at it before the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: after the pick. Yeah, he gave him the half. And
Speaker 1: that's how my mama hugs. She don't want to get
Speaker 1: you know, she don't want to get emotional trying to hold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, get back.
Speaker 5: And we were watching for it because we had seen
Speaker 5: on our cameras in studio. We get like kind of
Speaker 5: an extra couple of looks because we get the in
Speaker 5: house look to whenever we're watching the game.
Speaker 1: And we saw that pregame moment of of Dak or excuse.
Speaker 5: Me, of Trayvon and now sharing that emotional hug, sharing
Speaker 5: a couple of tears in Trayvon's case, and then when
Speaker 5: the pit cap and we were like, all right.
Speaker 1: How quickly is he get the out? Quickly is he
Speaker 1: get the out? And he got over there pretty fast.
Speaker 5: He got there to Al, and they had the skycam
Speaker 5: kind of hovering over the top of it, and yeah,
Speaker 5: it was just like a ye, got hold, like holding,
Speaker 5: appreciate you did your tear going reverse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's that's.
Speaker 5: The type of connection they have, and it was, it
Speaker 5: was it was really cool.
Speaker 3: Shout out also, Okay, so I was wrong about CD
Speaker 3: being ready to go right in terms of the full state,
Speaker 3: uh fool full game. And I was also wrong around
Speaker 3: Kayln Carson. M Oh, Kayln Carson showed up.
Speaker 1: I didn't. She just stopped talking about like like these
Speaker 1: these guys.
Speaker 3: You know, I have my opinions, and I was staying
Speaker 3: on it right Like Kevin Carson, I knew that he
Speaker 3: was competitor.
Speaker 1: I said that, I know he was competitor.
Speaker 3: I love his fight, I love his grit, I love
Speaker 3: how fast he was in camp, but I did not.
Speaker 3: I felt as if if he was in a man
Speaker 3: and man situation that he would be taking advantage of
Speaker 3: and he wasn't, and he wasn't.
Speaker 1: So shout out to you, I was wrong. You showed up. Now.
Speaker 3: I hope that you could continue to show up and
Speaker 3: do it now when when Al Harris speaks up and
Speaker 3: says I have a dog, we might want to listen
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 6: And I feel like he had the benefit of going
Speaker 6: up against Shaun Watson in that game, who was overwhelmed
Speaker 6: obviously and wasn't throwing confidently, wasn't making the right read.
Speaker 7: So when he goes up against a better quarterback, like
Speaker 7: we said, yeah, it'll.
Speaker 1: Be, he's about to Derek Carr and we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: But and I'd love.
Speaker 4: One reason I love Isaiah is because he stands on
Speaker 4: business right or wrong.
Speaker 1: So I just I love that. I love that.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to give you your roses while you're
Speaker 4: giving yourself the criticism Deck's contract landed, Yeah, said, and
Speaker 4: it happened.
Speaker 3: How you feeling, I feel good? I feel good. And
Speaker 3: a lot of people were surprised of it. Obviously, I
Speaker 3: was not surprised. What I was surprised of was to
Speaker 3: guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: What did you think about.
Speaker 3: Listen to thirty one out of forty ninety six percent
Speaker 3: guaranteed said, I'm not Deshaun Watson, but I better be
Speaker 3: something close to it in terms of contract. In terms
Speaker 3: of the contract, I got more guaranteed money, right, and
Speaker 3: I got the bag.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money and fewer states and no state,
Speaker 1: no states. Put on top of that. Listen man, listen
Speaker 1: to win win. Shout out to Dak Shout.
Speaker 3: Out to his agent friends who not only guaranteed the
Speaker 3: ninety six four year extension forty of them things, but
Speaker 3: also this is what this is what didn't get didn't
Speaker 3: get out there in the media too much. He also
Speaker 3: got another no trade clause and another no franchise tag.
Speaker 1: Another one his agent's amazing.
Speaker 3: So shout out to his team, Shout out to his
Speaker 3: confidence and his team, and how Dak persevered and held
Speaker 3: himself through all this, through all these conversations.
Speaker 1: Imagine being the QB one for.
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys in your second major contractual negotiations where
Speaker 3: you were literally talked about on every TV show.
Speaker 1: You're highlighted.
Speaker 3: Or you can't go out in public, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, you can't go out in public, you
Speaker 3: can't go to the grocery.
Speaker 1: Store, you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: You can't do anything without everybody grabbing you and asking
Speaker 3: you or talking to you.
Speaker 1: Like that's a hard life man.
Speaker 3: You always have to put on his persona like everything
Speaker 3: is good, right. You're trying to save face, not only
Speaker 3: for yourself and your family, but you're also trying to
Speaker 3: represent your team.
Speaker 1: You're trying to represent the organization, You're representing.
Speaker 3: The city of Dallas and trying to make sure that
Speaker 3: you don't say anything negative regardless of what you may
Speaker 3: be feeling on the inside.
Speaker 1: That takes a lot to.
Speaker 3: Stand up and be in that light and have integrity
Speaker 3: through it all.
Speaker 4: And in addition to seeing these hot takes on these
Speaker 4: talk shows like Sadar Sanders is penciled in, Dak Prescott's
Speaker 4: penciled out to see all of that kind of stuff
Speaker 4: and then come in and stand in front of media
Speaker 4: and maintain composure time and time again, knowing confident that
Speaker 4: you'd be taking care of in the end.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys did it. So you're right.
Speaker 5: And I love now that the conversation of will he
Speaker 5: be the quarterback of the future, that's that's over, That
Speaker 5: that conversation is done. Is there still conversation around Dak Prescott?
Speaker 5: Is there still gonna be some some critique and contra
Speaker 5: with it. Absolutely, that's part of the territory.
Speaker 7: The second half.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And that's going to be the telltale sign of
Speaker 5: whether the sixty million dollars is worth it or not.
Speaker 1: Sixty million a year.
Speaker 5: If he goes where this team believes that he can
Speaker 5: take them, if he can take them to a super Bowl,
Speaker 5: if he can win a super Bowl with this team
Speaker 5: under this contract, Every single penny of this contract, every
Speaker 5: single penny of the next contract, every single penny of
Speaker 5: the contract previously, will all be worth it if he
Speaker 5: can take them to.
Speaker 1: The promised land. So that's where it turns. Now.
Speaker 5: There's no excuses with Dak. There's no excuses with anything
Speaker 5: else at this point. It's either you do it or
Speaker 5: you don't. Now it's cut dry and no gray area.
Speaker 5: If you don't get there, if you don't get to
Speaker 5: an NFC Championship game or a Super Bowl, or you
Speaker 5: don't win it all, then I mean, pure and simple, sixty.
Speaker 1: Million dollars isn't worth it. But I think he can
Speaker 1: get you there.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he was able to get his bag
Speaker 3: because I feel as if these crazy contracts or quarterbacks
Speaker 3: are coming to an end, and I think the next.
Speaker 1: Some point it's going to come next not it come
Speaker 1: back down.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be the connect collective bargain
Speaker 3: agreement that's going to be one heck of a conversation
Speaker 3: between the owners and the players and say, hey, this
Speaker 3: is the pot absolutely going to put it back on
Speaker 3: the players laps or a separate cap. They're going to
Speaker 3: put it back on the players laps and be like, hey.
Speaker 1: Might be like NBA like a max contract deal. Absolute, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what's going to be.
Speaker 4: You negotiate a SUPERMX clause in there, maybe, I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's kind of what it's going It's going to be.
Speaker 1: Something along those lines.
Speaker 3: Because you get a SUPERMX incentive, they're going to make
Speaker 3: the players vote to say, hey, do you want the
Speaker 3: quarterbacks taking this percentage away.
Speaker 1: From you guys? And you know what it's going to
Speaker 1: end up, absolutely and what it'll end up being.
Speaker 5: I think if from a player standpoint, if if that's
Speaker 5: the actual conversation and these owners are putting that on
Speaker 5: the table moving forward, the conversation would then shift from
Speaker 5: a player's standpoint, the NFL p A, I'm sure would
Speaker 5: come back with a why don't we just make quarterback
Speaker 5: contracts separate, separate and have no separate cap on the
Speaker 5: quarterbacks or a separate cap or a larger ca app
Speaker 5: a larger piece of the pie for your quarterback contracts,
Speaker 5: which I mean you can make a baseball one d
Speaker 5: you can make a football and on the other next other.
Speaker 1: End from a contract standpoint right now, all a lot
Speaker 1: of kids arena playing quarterback. Yeah, that's your center. No,
Speaker 1: I'm a cube quarterback. That's all of it.
Speaker 5: All right, let's get some news and notes outside of
Speaker 5: dek and the weekend.
Speaker 4: Well, thankfully, the news and notes are. It's pretty slim today. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's because number one Cowboys did not practice yesterday.
Speaker 4: They will practice today. Headline for today's practice is Jake Ferguson. Obviously,
Speaker 4: so just to reiterate, Jake Ferguson is on a return
Speaker 4: to work rehab program right now, which means he will
Speaker 4: not be on injured reserve, which means he will not
Speaker 4: miss a minimum of four games, which also means that
Speaker 4: there's a lot of optimism that he might not miss
Speaker 4: any time at all. Jerry Jones on one oh five
Speaker 4: three the Fan yesterday kind of in conjunction with the
Speaker 4: sentiment from Mike McCarthy, in conjunction with what Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: said after the game, saying, he being Ferguson, told me
Speaker 4: he'll be fine, will be fine. A lot of signs
Speaker 4: point to Ferguson having a solid chance to take the
Speaker 4: field against the Saints this Sunday in Arlington. Now, is
Speaker 4: that guaranteed. Absolutely not. It is an MCL spring, this
Speaker 4: is not the playoffs. The division is not on the line.
Speaker 4: This is Week two. It's a long season, so it
Speaker 4: is very very possible. Dare I say likely that the
Speaker 4: Cowboys opt to give Jake Ferguson's needs some rest this weekend,
Speaker 4: which I would be totally fine with. Ask these other
Speaker 4: guys to step up, including Hunter Lipkey, get Jaylen Tobert
Speaker 4: and Jalen Brooks more involved in this game against the
Speaker 4: Saints if need be. But that's the latest. Excuse me
Speaker 4: on Jake Ferguson. He dodged a massive bullet and by
Speaker 4: doing so, the Cowboys did as well. Because pro bowler
Speaker 4: on track for a possible All Pro season. You lose
Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson, you are in some big tru Yeah.
Speaker 5: That is a big one, especially I mean combined we
Speaker 5: talked about yesterday eight perception, sixty five yards, two touchdowns
Speaker 5: and they all are Luke screwmaker.
Speaker 1: Brevin Spanford will have an opportunity.
Speaker 5: I think John Stevens Junior is still a little banged up.
Speaker 5: We'll see if that had a save. He Key gang
Speaker 5: from that.
Speaker 4: For today's practice, John Stevens is another one that you
Speaker 4: want to keep an eye on because of the question
Speaker 4: of availability for Jake Ferguson. This week, John Stevens missed
Speaker 4: the season opener with that hamstring injury. Is he ready?
Speaker 4: Will he be limited today? Will he be a full
Speaker 4: goal today? Will he be DMP today? Today's injury report
Speaker 4: is going to give us the first real look at
Speaker 4: if that rest from last week helped him at all,
Speaker 4: because he was DMP all last week going into missing
Speaker 4: that game. So he's had a couple weeks of rest
Speaker 4: now house that hamstring responding because they're going to need him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what else on the news and notes list? That's
Speaker 1: it for now. Like I said, we're skinny on the
Speaker 1: news and notes.
Speaker 4: Look the Cowboys for the most part, Jake Ferguson, notwithstanding
Speaker 4: they left Hole. So not only did they get the
Speaker 4: convincing win in Cleveland, but for the most part, they
Speaker 4: left Hole and Jake Ferguson. Again, it is not a
Speaker 4: major injury, not ir So you gotta be pleased.
Speaker 1: You gotta be pleased. Let's take our first break, then
Speaker 1: love it when we come back.
Speaker 5: It is a Wednesday, which means it's time to take
Speaker 5: a look at the Cowboys defensive preview versus the New
Speaker 5: Orleans says, as we turned the page to week two
Speaker 5: of the NFL season, is.
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara still the threat that he once was down
Speaker 1: in the Bayou.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about it when we come back right after
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Speaker 3: you guys cross them? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: You know you can't do that. Why would you have
Speaker 1: do you say they just did it? But it sounds
Speaker 1: that sounds like the bull was right on the middle line.
Speaker 1: It was on the same it was on the middle line.
Speaker 5: He said that so casually that I thought I was like,
Speaker 5: I could just see Isaiah like, oh yeah reaching.
Speaker 1: He was far too comfortable with that. I'm definitely read over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're reaching over, your fingers are about to
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's what I put my fingers in the
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Speaker 1: I played the one with like three pucks. Oh have
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Speaker 2: Reach?
Speaker 1: Wh reaching QB vision you reach ost It's like the
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Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Have you ever played the one with like the one
Speaker 1: hundred pucks where it's a lot? It's a lot going on? What? No,
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Speaker 1: And we didn't know it was happening. We had no
Speaker 1: idea that what was you have to I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're called. You have to handles hopped out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have two goalies And we were wondering that.
Speaker 5: We're like, why do you want to handles?
Speaker 1: That's why? A dude, I guarantee you Beamer just jumped
Speaker 1: in the back. I guarantee you he just jumped, all right.
Speaker 5: Cowboys versus Saints this weekend, of course, the Cowboys and Saints,
Speaker 5: that's a storied rivalry going all the way back to
Speaker 5: god knows how long the Big Easy making their way
Speaker 5: to Arlington, Texas back at at and T Stadium. Cowboys defense,
Speaker 5: of course, they were the storyline in Week one. They
Speaker 5: looked fantastic against Deshaun Watson and company. Can they do
Speaker 5: so for an encore in week two? Josh, I'll start
Speaker 5: with you, what's the number one thing you want to
Speaker 5: see from this team to bring an encore into Week
Speaker 5: two's matchup with New Orleans.
Speaker 6: Well, it's keeping Derek carrn check. He now has new
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak, who was once on Mike Zimmer's
Speaker 6: coaching staff back in Minnesota. Sob tree the Kubiak tree,
Speaker 6: and I think is relying on their offensive line movement.
Speaker 6: They ran motion on sixty six percent of their plays
Speaker 6: last week. Forty percent of cars dropbacks were play action,
Speaker 6: So it might be hard at least for them to
Speaker 6: have their plays developed like they did last week. They
Speaker 6: were going against the Panthers who were arguably not you know,
Speaker 6: arguably arguably not great. I don't want to lay on
Speaker 6: them too much, but I don't think they're gonna be
Speaker 6: able to rely so much on the play action because
Speaker 6: having those plays developed with this Cowboys defensive line is
Speaker 6: going to be tough. They're gonna be chased after all game.
Speaker 6: I don't think Cars going to have is eighty three
Speaker 6: percent pass completion this game with a one hundred and
Speaker 6: forty two point five power passer rating. I don't think
Speaker 6: that's gonna happen. But Derek Carr is a weapon, and
Speaker 6: he was throwing dimes all last week. There were good game,
Speaker 6: several touchdowns that were dropped from perfect Derek Carr throws are.
Speaker 5: This is kind of an interesting look. From the beginning
Speaker 5: of last year. Right beginning of last year, there's four
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the NFL that have games with three passing
Speaker 5: touchdowns and zero interceptions, either at the level.
Speaker 1: Or more than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 5: Jordan Love has five of those games three interceptions or
Speaker 5: I mean three touchdowns no interceptions.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love has.
Speaker 5: Five, Rock Perty has five, Dak Prescott has five, Derek
Speaker 5: Carr has three right there too, like he has three
Speaker 5: of those games all have come since Week fifteen of
Speaker 5: last year. So let's just say right now, from the
Speaker 5: final four games of last year to the first game
Speaker 5: of this year, he's had three of those games, which
Speaker 5: means he's figuring something out along the way.
Speaker 7: They were red hot at that at the end of
Speaker 7: last year. For sure.
Speaker 4: For me, it's keep the pressure on. You got to
Speaker 4: keep the pressure on. That's one thing that if you
Speaker 4: go back and you look at the game between the
Speaker 4: Panthers and the Saints, one of the reasons the Saints
Speaker 4: were able to hang forty seven on the Panthers is
Speaker 4: the Panthers could not consistently make Derek Carr uncomfortable back there.
Speaker 4: They couldn't they just let him sit back there and
Speaker 4: he was filing his texas between throws, and you can't
Speaker 4: do that, especially when you have weapons like Shaheed who
Speaker 4: can do some damage out there. We talk about Alvin Kamaro,
Speaker 4: will talk in greater detail about him soon, But for me,
Speaker 4: it's keep the pressure on and keep your gap discipline.
Speaker 4: When it comes to a shifty guy who can do
Speaker 4: damage in space like Alvin Kamara out of the backfield,
Speaker 4: you do that. I would look at the twenty eighteen film,
Speaker 4: I believe it was twenty eighteen. If I'm Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 4: I look at the twenty eighteen film and I look
Speaker 4: at Jordan Lewis and say, hey, remember that, Yeah, remember that?
Speaker 4: And you allow Jordan Lewis to spy on Alvin Kamara
Speaker 4: and in doing so a few years ago, he shut
Speaker 4: Camara down in that game. So be it Jordan Lewis
Speaker 4: or with the speed of demarveon overshown that we've seen
Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks to speed. The linebackers are going to be
Speaker 4: tested again sideline to sideline. But if you can get pressure,
Speaker 4: because the Saints front five it isn't sensational, right, you
Speaker 4: can get pressure on the guy. But the Panthers front
Speaker 4: four is not exceptional at doing so.
Speaker 1: Now Cowboys front is.
Speaker 4: So if you can do that, make Derek Carr uncomfortable
Speaker 4: and maybe spy Alvin Kamara, I think you walk away
Speaker 4: with a winning this game.
Speaker 1: Probably no spy, no spy, no spy, no spy. Make
Speaker 1: him prove it. Okay, player based defense. Listen, you think
Speaker 1: this is different. This is speed on speed. It is.
Speaker 1: This is speed on speed.
Speaker 3: The Saints literally just lifted the chin of the Panthers
Speaker 3: and smacked me.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the reason why personal was personnel. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Lift the chin? Uh, where's my powder? Exactly?
Speaker 4: The Saints want to stretch you out. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: you're on the one shot.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I can't see behind.
Speaker 3: They want to stretch you sideline the sideline, and they
Speaker 3: want to much like coach McCarthy did a really good
Speaker 3: job of keeping the Browns off kilter in terms of
Speaker 3: not just going downhill every time. Right, it was our
Speaker 3: end and round, it was a screen, it was a
Speaker 3: you know, a pass out to the flats. That's exactly
Speaker 3: what the Saints did last week. They literally threw a
Speaker 3: ton of screens, and it was almost like they ran
Speaker 3: screens to run passes. So it wasn't even like you know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't like a run to play. It was a
Speaker 3: screen to play action. And when they have you, they
Speaker 3: overload you in terms of personnel. So they'll play three
Speaker 3: four guys on one side and throw a screen right
Speaker 3: out the backfield, whether it's to Kamara, whether it's to Shahi,
Speaker 3: whether it's to Taysom Hill. They'll throw it out there
Speaker 3: and make you come downhill now, right, but it's going
Speaker 3: to be outside the tackle box. So they really want
Speaker 3: to get you running sideline the sideline, and they don't
Speaker 3: do a lot coming straight at you. Once you start
Speaker 3: going sideline the sideline, that's when they try to sneak
Speaker 3: it by you and give it to Kamara inside the
Speaker 3: tackle box. Once they get you going sideline the sideline
Speaker 3: and really coming downhill aggressively towards the screen, that's when
Speaker 3: the play action happens.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So you're really gonna have to be disciplined all right
Speaker 3: in your assignments. And I don't think that Dallas to
Speaker 3: date has a problem with that. We've seen it all
Speaker 3: through training camp. They're very disciplined We saw it through
Speaker 3: the preseason games. They're pretty disciplined, and now we've seen
Speaker 3: it against the Cleveland Browns in the regular season, where
Speaker 3: they were disciplined. They don't let allow guys to get
Speaker 3: behind them. And with that, I think that the Saints
Speaker 3: are gonna have issues offensively because a Dallas Cowboys can
Speaker 3: match their speed. They have guys linebackers that can run around,
Speaker 3: they have defensive linemen that are not just gonna sit
Speaker 3: back and play paddy Cake on the chest of offensive linemen.
Speaker 3: They're gonna come after Derek Carr, right, and they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to come after car because the last three games
Speaker 3: d Carr has had seven and we go back to
Speaker 3: last season, seventy six completions, seventy six percent completion rate, right,
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns, and one hundred and twenty nine passer rating
Speaker 3: first first and first of all quarterbacks who have over
Speaker 3: fifty passes.
Speaker 1: You gotta rattle them, You got to, you gotta put
Speaker 1: some pressure.
Speaker 3: He was sitting back there baking the cake last week
Speaker 3: and he was able to push it down the field
Speaker 3: because of that. So you take away his ability to
Speaker 3: be comfortable because you have defensive linemen like deed law
Speaker 3: like Michael Parsons that can go ahead and get after
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So he's not gonna have all day Osa's beast.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's not gonna be comfortable, which means he's
Speaker 3: not gonna have the time to sit back and throw
Speaker 3: the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have linebackers.
Speaker 3: That can go up and make plays in the backfield
Speaker 3: in terms of stopping the screen, so you're not using
Speaker 3: your defensive backs and safeties and everybody else that are
Speaker 3: going to be bum rushing up there and then leaving
Speaker 3: something behind them, right in terms of big plays. So
Speaker 3: the areas that the Carolina Panthers were weak, the Dallas
Speaker 3: Cowboys is strong. And I'm really looking forward to that
Speaker 3: matchup of Zimmers versus his offense.
Speaker 5: I want you to tell me a little bit about
Speaker 5: these weapons when we come back.
Speaker 1: I wanted to.
Speaker 5: I know we know about Alvin Kamara, and I think
Speaker 5: my question is is he one of the once was
Speaker 5: maybe not one hundred percent of close.
Speaker 1: I mean he had one hundred yards from scrimmage last week,
Speaker 1: he had a touchdown.
Speaker 5: He's still decent. But you also know about Chris Olave.
Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit unknown guy with Rashi or how
Speaker 5: do you say that? Shahied love that name, by the way,
Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed and what he does. I mean that's kind
Speaker 5: of a relative unknown. He's been fantastic recently.
Speaker 1: Speed speed, Speed Speed.
Speaker 5: Tell me about these guys when we come back on
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Speaker 5: Saints have won five of their last six games since
Speaker 5: Week fourteen of twenty twenty three. Only team with a
Speaker 5: better record from that point on is the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 5: six and oho are the Bills at that point.
Speaker 1: The Saints in that time spaner.
Speaker 5: Leading the league with a thirty two points per game mark.
Speaker 5: They have been tearing it up in that five and
Speaker 5: one stretch, and really a big reason for that. Not
Speaker 5: only is Derek Carr, It's been the weapons that he's
Speaker 5: throwing the football tude she He led the Saints with
Speaker 5: seventy three yards last week and receiving touchdown in Week one.
Speaker 5: He also part of that was a fifty nine yarder
Speaker 5: against Carolina in Week one, fourth receiving touchdown of over
Speaker 5: fifty yards.
Speaker 1: For Shaheed, tell me a little bit about what he does.
Speaker 1: You said speed is that? It is it just his
Speaker 1: calling card or what else is he doing.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really it is that accompanied by the
Speaker 3: fact that nobody else around him is a Swiss Army
Speaker 3: knife as well. So Alvin Kamara can line up as
Speaker 3: a receiver Kamara, sorry, he can line up as a receiver.
Speaker 1: He can line up in Kamara I thought it was Kamara. Kamara.
Speaker 3: So he can line up in a backfield. He'll come downhill,
Speaker 3: he'll run out screens, he'll line up as a receiver.
Speaker 3: He'll line up as a slot. So he's a Swiss
Speaker 3: Army knife. Taysom Hill, we know he could throw the ball.
Speaker 3: He's a full back, he's a running back, he's a
Speaker 3: tight end, so he's a Swiss Army knife. And then Rashiah,
Speaker 3: this dude's all over the place as well. So as
Speaker 3: a matter of being able to identify within their personnel
Speaker 3: not only okay, what position do they play, but what
Speaker 3: position are they playing on this particular play, and then
Speaker 3: how can they be a threat to me? All of
Speaker 3: them could run screens, all of them Dan there could
Speaker 3: throw the ball. All of them can line up anywhere
Speaker 3: across the field. So it makes it difficult in that
Speaker 3: regard because you can't put those individuals in a box
Speaker 3: you can't put their personnel in a box because you
Speaker 3: always have to be aware that, shoot, Alvin Kamara, he
Speaker 3: could throw the ball, Okay, al kamarga line.
Speaker 1: He gonna be a slot receiver.
Speaker 3: He could be a receiver, he could be running back,
Speaker 3: take some hill, he could do absolutely everything. I can't
Speaker 3: just treat him as a tight end. I can't just
Speaker 3: treat him as a running back. I always have to
Speaker 3: be aware of the fact that he could throw the
Speaker 3: ball behind my head as well, and he can block,
Speaker 3: and he could block right, so he all those guys
Speaker 3: present a problem because everything's on the table. One of
Speaker 3: the things about defense is I watch enough film, I
Speaker 3: understand what your personnel grouping is, I understand what your
Speaker 3: formation is, and then based upon those things, now I
Speaker 3: can start eliminating potential threats. You can't do that against
Speaker 3: these guys because everybody does everything.
Speaker 6: And you also can't discount Chris o'lave either. Number twelve.
Speaker 7: Yes, he's a great receiver in his own right.
Speaker 1: He could be a superstar. He's legit.
Speaker 6: He had an eleven hundred yard season last year with
Speaker 6: five touchdowns.
Speaker 7: I mean she he'd also had five touchdowns last year.
Speaker 7: He had a.
Speaker 6: Quiet game though last week, with only two catches for
Speaker 6: eleven yards, but he is a he's definitely a weapon.
Speaker 6: In fact, he almost didn't need to throw to him
Speaker 6: with how other running the ball, just getting the ball
Speaker 6: down the field that they didn't need to give Alvey
Speaker 6: a second look last week.
Speaker 1: Obby is their best receiver and they've barely.
Speaker 7: Got him involved.
Speaker 3: In those that are listening, I know we didn't really
Speaker 3: bring up a Lobby in that little segment right there,
Speaker 3: but he's their best receiver, so he's their gold guy.
Speaker 3: He's their guy that they're getting the ball to for
Speaker 3: the big play they like. Just just to your point,
Speaker 3: he was quiet last week, but please believe they're not
Speaker 3: going to go two weeks not allow him to have opportunities.
Speaker 5: I think that the thing about Olive, they expect him
Speaker 5: to be their top receiver, right like they when they
Speaker 5: took him in the first round out of Ohio State.
Speaker 5: That was the number one thing for Chris Olave And
Speaker 5: I loved Chris o'lave here in the draft show.
Speaker 1: He's just he's a phenomenal player.
Speaker 5: But the fact that they find a second guy like
Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed who can compliment what the speed and the
Speaker 5: ellusiveness and the route running ability that Olave has with
Speaker 5: some speed and some just reliable hands and some yards
Speaker 5: after the catch.
Speaker 1: That's what's dangerous.
Speaker 5: It's the duo between the two and that's what's going
Speaker 5: to stretch the secondary this week.
Speaker 6: And speaking of duo, let's I know we're gonna talk
Speaker 6: about Alvin Kamara at length, but Jamal.
Speaker 1: Williams games as well.
Speaker 6: That is a dangerous backfield because of the tandem is sick.
Speaker 6: He had a slow year last year where he only
Speaker 6: averaged about three yards per carry, but just two years ago,
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, he had a thousand yard season with
Speaker 6: a four yard per carry average.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this question, then, which one
Speaker 1: threatens you more?
Speaker 5: The passing game and the weapons on the outside or
Speaker 5: the two running backs in the backfield.
Speaker 6: I like our secondary a lot. I'm worried about consistent
Speaker 6: run game. A consistently good run game coming at us down,
Speaker 6: down after down.
Speaker 7: That's me.
Speaker 6: And then also, of course Derek Carr using that to
Speaker 6: his advantage and throwing us throwing over.
Speaker 4: The top and for me until further notice. And I'd
Speaker 4: love it. Although Isaiah did kind of allude to it.
Speaker 4: The Browns kind of got away from the run, but
Speaker 4: when they tried the run, it wasn't working up the
Speaker 4: middle right, they had to go to the edges, and
Speaker 4: then that speed from the linebackers kicked in, and not
Speaker 4: only speed from the linebackers but patients. We know Eric
Speaker 4: Kendricks is a former first team All Pro, so you
Speaker 4: expect that his IQ and his veteran a need to recognize, diagnose,
Speaker 4: and be patient and strike when he needs to strike.
Speaker 4: That's going to be there, and it was there. It
Speaker 4: was evident against the Browns, but so was over shown's.
Speaker 4: I did a film breakdown on defense earlier this week,
Speaker 4: and there were times where the young man didn't just
Speaker 4: shoot himself out of the cannon. He stalked like he
Speaker 4: was stalking prey on Deshaun Watson and whoever was coming
Speaker 4: out of the backfield before he struck. So I think
Speaker 4: that's going to help you as far as defending the
Speaker 4: run on the edges. But you got to stop the
Speaker 4: run to have some fun. Stop the run to have
Speaker 4: some fun. So you stop the run, and that's going
Speaker 4: to force because Jamal Woods, he's going to try to
Speaker 4: a gap be gap it right, Alvin Kamara. He can
Speaker 4: do ab, but he wants to hit con outside. Okay,
Speaker 4: So force them outside. Shut down the middle with the
Speaker 4: big boys, Jordan Phillips, Monzi Smith, Osodiggy Zoo, Chauncey Ghost
Speaker 4: and get those guys lin Vald Joseph, get those guys
Speaker 4: doing that work up the middle. Stop the run, force
Speaker 4: the runs to the outside. Now your linebackers who have
Speaker 4: the speed, they can match them. They can go sideline
Speaker 4: to sideline, which then allows your defensive ends. Michael Parsons
Speaker 4: mar Shawn Naland had six pressures. Marshaw Kneeland had two
Speaker 4: more pressures last week then did two of the defensive
Speaker 4: ends for the Panthers against Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: So this.
Speaker 4: The Panthers had only the only how can I wear this?
Speaker 4: The only pressures they had against Derek Carr from the
Speaker 4: defensive front came on the edges, not the interior. It
Speaker 4: was two and two. It was a Shawn Robinson and
Speaker 4: it was jadaeve Yon Clowney.
Speaker 1: That's it. Four. Let me put that in perspective.
Speaker 4: Last week again or Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons had nine de Marcus Lawrence had eight pressures, marshaw
Speaker 4: Naland had six, Chauncey Ghosten had four. Exactly get pressure,
Speaker 4: force him to be uncomfortable, and now your takeaways come.
Speaker 4: But again, none of that happens if you can't stop
Speaker 4: Elvin Kamara and especially Jamal Williams.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I can get jiggy with the no no QB spot
Speaker 4: because you have speed. Eric Kendricks, Mayor Stiel Foul and
Speaker 4: those guys. However, and I was sean let him hunt
Speaker 4: good with that, but you got to stop that run
Speaker 4: up the middle.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you that kind of a follow
Speaker 5: up on Cleveland, Mazzi Smith was graded as the lowest
Speaker 5: player on the entire Cowboys defense. He's graded by PFF
Speaker 5: as a thirty in Week one, thirty even terrible grade.
Speaker 5: When I went back and watched the film, I really
Speaker 5: didn't think it was that bad. Did I think he
Speaker 5: played well? No, I don't. I don't think Mazzie played well.
Speaker 5: Did I think it was detrimental to the defense. I
Speaker 5: also don't believe that either. Because the linebackers were able
Speaker 5: to run free. There were some edge rusher or edge pressure.
Speaker 5: With some edge pressures, there was a bajillion of edge pressure.
Speaker 5: I think he did what he needed to do with
Speaker 5: holding the line of scrimmage, which we talked about last
Speaker 5: year a lot of times.
Speaker 1: For a defensive tackle, that's all you need to do.
Speaker 5: You need to hold your ground. He didn't get pushed backwards. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what did you think from Mozzie Smith this week?
Speaker 1: Is about what I expected, which is not high.
Speaker 3: It's also I believe what this organization probably expected, which
Speaker 3: is the reason why you've seen that room turn over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: is that they've had They knew that what he was providing. Again,
Speaker 3: he's still young, right, but what he was, what he
Speaker 3: has been providing to date is not enough to impact
Speaker 3: the game. It's enough to be present, yeah, but it's
Speaker 3: not enough to impact the game.
Speaker 1: So and I agree with you. I think he's present exactly,
Speaker 1: but he would miss him. He's a first round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear you. I trust me, I hear you loud.
Speaker 1: He's got to be impactful and he's not in this scheme.
Speaker 3: In this scheme currently, he has not shown the ability
Speaker 3: to do what they're asking these guys to do, which
Speaker 3: when you look at that game, Mozzi occupied a man. Okay,
Speaker 3: the other guys occupied multiple guys, right, So it's the
Speaker 3: difference between occupying a man and then occupying two offensive linements.
Speaker 3: The reason why d laud, the reason why Michael Parson
Speaker 3: is able to have one on one mattress is because
Speaker 3: the guards and the centers were doubling up on our
Speaker 3: interior defensive linement.
Speaker 1: You had to double up on a lineman. So if I'm.
Speaker 3: Consuming two of your five guys that could block, well,
Speaker 3: guess who.
Speaker 1: Can roam free? Now? My dns have one on ones.
Speaker 3: Now, my linebackers can roam free because they don't have
Speaker 3: guys getting up to the next level. It's the thing
Speaker 3: that we've talked about over the recent years in terms
Speaker 3: of our defense alignment, interior deepens alignment, occupying offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: If you're just taking up one for one, well, how
Speaker 3: many d linemen do we have four? How many offensive
Speaker 3: lineen do they have five? You're not doing anything in
Speaker 3: terms of affecting or allowing guys that we need to
Speaker 3: be our stars, which are the linebackers of this defense
Speaker 3: to be able to do their jobs.
Speaker 4: What I'll say is, and we talked about pfifth grades
Speaker 4: yesterday because where they graded Tyler guiding for example, it's
Speaker 4: not what the film shows, Okay, So we sell that
Speaker 4: to say, you got to use all of these tools
Speaker 4: in conjunction with each other, and they're not always going
Speaker 4: to agree. The film will not always agree with the
Speaker 4: numbers the numbers, and vice versa. But it's interesting when
Speaker 4: you talk about Mazzie Smith had a Did he have
Speaker 4: an above average game?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Did he have a bad game in my opinion, No,
Speaker 4: he just was there doing present. He will task for
Speaker 4: doing it right right. He was there for ro Called.
Speaker 4: He ate up a couple of double teams, and I
Speaker 4: saw him walk a guy every once in a while
Speaker 4: and just kind of stay in his space, which is
Speaker 4: what you want your nose tackle to do. But here's
Speaker 4: a number that's supported by some of the reps I
Speaker 4: saw on film for Mozzie Smith, and I got to
Speaker 4: throw it out there because it's for context. When Mozzie Smith,
Speaker 4: this is this is per nextion stats. When Mozzi Smith
Speaker 4: was on the field, the Browns offense averaged three point
Speaker 4: eight yards per run. Okay, when he was off the
Speaker 4: field that clicked up to five point two. So when
Speaker 4: Mozzie Smith was on the field, it was a minus
Speaker 4: one and a half yard per average difference.
Speaker 1: That's significant. That it is significant.
Speaker 4: So I say that to say keep that in mind
Speaker 4: when if you're looking at Mozzie Smith through the eyes
Speaker 4: of I want flashy numbers, the number one, you're not
Speaker 4: assessing the nose tackle position correctly.
Speaker 1: That's first and foremost.
Speaker 4: Second of all, again, did he have as good a
Speaker 4: game as I would say Jordan Phillips? No?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Can he improve? Absolutely he can do. I believe he will.
Speaker 4: I believe you will. It's a long season, second year guy,
Speaker 4: and now he's learning under a Jordan Phillips and a
Speaker 4: Linvall Joseph's and stuff like that. But for him to
Speaker 4: be graded where he was graded by PFF, that's what
Speaker 4: I disagree with, not saying he had a quote unquote
Speaker 4: good game, but he had a stable game.
Speaker 5: If I were grading in in like PFF scale where
Speaker 5: they really they keep it zero to one hundred, but
Speaker 5: it's mostly between like thirty and eighty, right, I would
Speaker 5: probably give him like a fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a stable game.
Speaker 5: I'm not That's the thing. I'm not looking for stable.
Speaker 5: I'm looking for impactful. He's a first round pick. He's
Speaker 5: going to play well.
Speaker 4: Sorry, but that's that's future projection, and I understand, I
Speaker 4: agree with that.
Speaker 1: But if we're at if the question is we're in
Speaker 1: your two now, if.
Speaker 4: The question is my assessment of Sunday's game, it was
Speaker 4: a stable game that I expect and hope that he
Speaker 4: builds upon, and that minus one and a half in
Speaker 4: when that matters.
Speaker 1: So that matters.
Speaker 3: But again you have to look at that with a
Speaker 3: grain of salt as well, because he's in there on
Speaker 3: early downs and they were in a lot of passing situations.
Speaker 1: You can't everything. That's why, that's why I don't always
Speaker 1: look at just by themselves.
Speaker 6: Five snaps on the run there everything, five total snaps
Speaker 6: on run defense.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, so it's too small of a sample size.
Speaker 3: I think it's correct, and I'm not. I mean, he
Speaker 3: still has a long way to go in terms of
Speaker 3: making an impact. He has a time because he has
Speaker 3: sixty more games. So I'm looking forward to seeing his
Speaker 3: development hopefully and his growth. Again, when I used to
Speaker 3: watch film with myself, there is plenty of times where
Speaker 3: I'll watch it, I was like, you didn't do anything
Speaker 3: that anybody else couldn't have done.
Speaker 1: You did your job. You did your job. But there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys that are capable of doing
Speaker 1: their job as well. Did you stand out?
Speaker 3: When I'm watching my daughter play soccer and the game's
Speaker 3: going on and I'm seeing her just be in present,
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I literally say, he naughty impact, that's
Speaker 3: all impact, And she looks at me and she okay,
Speaker 3: are you making an impact? Am I doing anything that
Speaker 3: is affecting the outcome of these plays?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: This made me wonder what is past coverage? Not past coverage,
Speaker 4: but what his past defense looked like. That's far looked
Speaker 4: like as far as the sixteen reps, So the sixteen
Speaker 4: reps that he had, because again, if you're assessing a
Speaker 4: nose tackle, you want him to be able to eat
Speaker 4: up those double teams and things like that. Osa had
Speaker 4: eighteen double teams out of forty five snaps. Cool, you
Speaker 4: better be scared of Osa. Chauncey Golston had ten. And
Speaker 4: the only other person outside of Osa and Chauncey who
Speaker 4: had more double who was double team more was Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons outside on the edge. So Masi Smith, out of
Speaker 4: sixteen pass coverage reps, was double team forty four percent
Speaker 4: of the time. So to that degree he is at
Speaker 4: least doing that. So this is what I mean when
Speaker 4: I say stable. Do I want to see more? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: I want to see more from the former first round pick,
Speaker 4: and I think we'll get more. But in the assessment
Speaker 4: of Sunday's game again, was it good?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Was it bad?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: You can't be disappointed. And that's what I'm talking about it.
Speaker 3: You can't be disappointed because you're to be disappointed means
Speaker 3: that you're let down from an expectation that you had.
Speaker 3: I was a little dead what I expected. I was
Speaker 3: a little disappointed.
Speaker 5: I was not I know, I expect growth from Mazi
Speaker 5: this year as time goes on.
Speaker 1: I thought it.
Speaker 5: Would look a little bit further along at this point
Speaker 5: in the season than it did.
Speaker 1: What did you see in camp that would lead you
Speaker 1: to believe that.
Speaker 5: That's the thing is like little things along the way.
Speaker 5: You should have seen his camp lash year. He's back
Speaker 5: to his camp lash.
Speaker 1: He is better than last year. Let's make that statement.
Speaker 1: He's better.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I don't know if I saw
Speaker 5: that Week one, I don't know if I saw him
Speaker 5: better than last year in Week one. Now, granted week one,
Speaker 5: I keep saying it's the first week of the season.
Speaker 5: There's a long way to go, but right now, if
Speaker 5: the season were to end today and we only play
Speaker 5: one game in the regular.
Speaker 1: Season, I would be disappointed in Mazie's man.
Speaker 5: I would I would feel I would feel like he's
Speaker 5: just a.
Speaker 1: Lot more talk about after this.
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