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Speaker 4: Touchdowns and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. Welcome in, everybody.

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Speaker 5: We've got Patrick no Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez sipping on

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Speaker 5: his Black Rifle Coffee in his Black Rifle Coffee mug.

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Speaker 5: And then we've got Isaiah Standback fresh off the West Coast.

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Speaker 5: Fact but I was back in the building today. I'm

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Speaker 5: Kyle Yeomans. We've got Cris Beam of course in the back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody. How was your trip? It was good?

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Speaker 1: It was good. I mean we we.

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Speaker 5: Got to watch the game together on Sunday, finished the

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Speaker 5: first half of Cowboys O t knocked it out and

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Speaker 5: then had some technical difficulties with the Marvey and overshown

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Speaker 5: and then said by later.

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Speaker 3: I know I ate away a little bit at our time,

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Speaker 3: but he's always a good, good interview.

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Speaker 1: He had a heck of a game.

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Speaker 3: Heck of a game. I know you guys have covered already.

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Speaker 3: I've been checking in on y'all. Y'all do the head

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Speaker 3: of a job you watched? Yeah, absolutely, I watched man.

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Speaker 1: As we were as we were watching you. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here wat.

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Speaker 5: I mentioned at one point, but it is weird like

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Speaker 5: sitting in here with that chair well, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: guess Josh was sitting over there, so it wasn't an

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Speaker 5: empty chair, but just.

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Speaker 1: Not still one. It was still.

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Speaker 5: But looking over to our second monitor that that is

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Speaker 5: constantly on NFL Network, And the reason why we keep

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Speaker 5: it on NFL Network is because of breaking moves and

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Speaker 5: just in case something happens, we can tell you live

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Speaker 5: on the air.

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Speaker 1: But when we look over there and.

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Speaker 5: It's just I say, I wearing a Kingdome shirt, he's

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Speaker 5: got his body on the Seattle repping.

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Speaker 1: As always.

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Speaker 5: You had a nice like salmon Polo on on Monday.

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Speaker 5: I mean I found I found the outlets out here.

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Speaker 5: I found the outlet store.

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Speaker 1: You can't have money with no no, No, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it is. I'm always gonna be on a discount

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Speaker 6: Okay, Iaay, stand back is not afraid of a different

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Speaker 6: kind of color, you know what I'm saying, Like always

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Speaker 6: put on something different like a tan or a toe

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Speaker 6: or just yeah, I had yellow shoes Gray.

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Speaker 7: I feel like you you had a yellow.

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Speaker 1: Yellow llow shoes on. Well, did you find some Jordan's

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Speaker 1: final they find Jordan outlet.

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Speaker 3: There were actually some Monopoly one drops, little Monopoly editions,

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Speaker 3: the utilities, the utility of versions.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you go to Lows in the paint

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Speaker 6: department and they're like that shirt you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, right, yeah, spinning fat color of Hey dudes.

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Speaker 3: But that was hard because, like, listen, I found a

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Speaker 3: Hey Dude outlet like you like, Hey dudes, Beamer, We're

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Speaker 3: going on, We're going there's a whole store.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's out there by Motor Speedway.

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Speaker 3: There's a outlet st I don't know the name an outlet, wow,

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Speaker 3: but they have a Hay Dudes out.

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Speaker 1: I think they are like the Tanger outlets out there.

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Speaker 1: Hey dudes, if y'all listening, we will wear some Hay

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Speaker 1: dues on the show. They don't. They don't need any

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Speaker 1: money to us. What's that not yet?

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Speaker 4: Hey, dudes, my brother now, George Brand They have a

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Speaker 4: sponsorship with QB one want to slash those over.

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Speaker 1: This, that would be nice. They got another QB the

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Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, Stroud, Yeah they did.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I want to hear your thoughts on the game though,

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Speaker 5: the first time you've you've been on the Talking Cowboys airwaves.

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Speaker 5: What'd you think about thirty three seventeen over Cleveland?

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Speaker 3: I thought they physically handled Cleveland, and I was pleasantly

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Speaker 3: But Dallas was able to enforce their will on Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. That was what we were hoping that they

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Speaker 3: on the show that that was not their strong suit.

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Speaker 3: We all felt that Deshaun Watson has lost velocity. We

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Speaker 3: and we knew that he had to utilize his legs.

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Speaker 3: And this defense is fast. Dallas's defense is fast. You

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Speaker 3: add in Zimmer's schemes and they're even more dangerous than

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Speaker 3: and I was very pleased with what they provided. Dak

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Speaker 3: I was wrong, CD was ready. I didn't think CD

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Speaker 3: and you know, pressing press man and all that. He

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Speaker 3: handled himself very well. He came prepared awesome. No injuries

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Speaker 3: on that front. On that front, we did.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure you have news and knows

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Speaker 3: But overall, man, I was happy and it was good

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Speaker 3: to see Overshown show up big, big started kid.

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Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't see that coming at all. Though the word

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Speaker 1: Sudden it was unofficial.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unofficial. There you go, and Overshown showed up. He

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he got emotional, just like we saw Trayvon

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Speaker 1: I know he's he's he's on cloud nine right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs as well, spoke with Trayvon after the After

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Speaker 7: Got before the game too.

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Speaker 3: Sounds from the sideline confirmed that you saw him hug

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Speaker 3: and have an emotional exchange with Al Harrison.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't even look at it before the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how my mama hugs. She don't want to get

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Speaker 1: you know, she don't want to get emotional trying to hold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, get back.

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Speaker 5: And we were watching for it because we had seen

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Speaker 1: And we saw that pregame moment of of Dak or excuse.

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Speaker 5: Me, of Trayvon and now sharing that emotional hug, sharing

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Speaker 1: How quickly is he get the out? Quickly is he

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Speaker 5: He got there to Al, and they had the skycam

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Speaker 5: appreciate you did your tear going reverse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's that's.

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Speaker 5: The type of connection they have, and it was, it

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Speaker 3: Shout out also, Okay, so I was wrong about CD

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Speaker 3: Kayln Carson. M Oh, Kayln Carson showed up.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. She just stopped talking about like like these

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Speaker 3: You know, I have my opinions, and I was staying

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Speaker 3: on it right Like Kevin Carson, I knew that he

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Speaker 1: I said that, I know he was competitor.

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Speaker 3: I love his fight, I love his grit, I love

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Speaker 3: I felt as if if he was in a man

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Speaker 1: So shout out to you, I was wrong. You showed up. Now.

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Speaker 3: I hope that you could continue to show up and

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Speaker 3: do it now when when Al Harris speaks up and

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Speaker 6: And I feel like he had the benefit of going

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Speaker 6: up against Shaun Watson in that game, who was overwhelmed

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Speaker 6: obviously and wasn't throwing confidently, wasn't making the right read.

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Speaker 7: So when he goes up against a better quarterback, like

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Speaker 7: we said, yeah, it'll.

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Speaker 1: Be, he's about to Derek Carr and we'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: But and I'd love.

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Speaker 4: One reason I love Isaiah is because he stands on

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Speaker 4: business right or wrong.

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Speaker 1: So I just I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to give you your roses while you're

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Speaker 4: giving yourself the criticism Deck's contract landed, Yeah, said, and

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Speaker 3: How you feeling, I feel good? I feel good. And

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Speaker 3: a lot of people were surprised of it. Obviously, I

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Speaker 3: was not surprised. What I was surprised of was to

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Speaker 3: guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: What did you think about.

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Speaker 3: Listen to thirty one out of forty ninety six percent

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Speaker 3: guaranteed said, I'm not Deshaun Watson, but I better be

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Speaker 3: something close to it in terms of contract. In terms

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Speaker 3: of the contract, I got more guaranteed money, right, and

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Speaker 3: I got the bag.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of money and fewer states and no state,

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Speaker 1: no states. Put on top of that. Listen man, listen

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Speaker 1: to win win. Shout out to Dak Shout.

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Speaker 3: Out to his agent friends who not only guaranteed the

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Speaker 3: ninety six four year extension forty of them things, but

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Speaker 3: also this is what this is what didn't get didn't

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Speaker 3: got another no trade clause and another no franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: Another one his agent's amazing.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to his team, Shout out to his

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Speaker 1: Imagine being the QB one for.

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Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys in your second major contractual negotiations where

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Speaker 1: And the Cowboys did it. So you're right.

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Speaker 5: And I love now that the conversation of will he

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Speaker 5: Is there still gonna be some some critique and contra

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And that's going to be the telltale sign of

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Speaker 5: If he goes where this team believes that he can

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Speaker 5: under this contract, Every single penny of this contract, every

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Speaker 1: The promised land. So that's where it turns. Now.

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Speaker 5: There's no excuses with Dak. There's no excuses with anything

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Speaker 1: Million dollars isn't worth it. But I think he can

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that he was able to get his bag

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be the connect collective bargain

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Speaker 1: Might be like NBA like a max contract deal. Absolute, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: From you guys? And you know what it's going to

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Speaker 1: I'm a cube quarterback. That's all of it.

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Speaker 4: Well, thankfully, the news and notes are. It's pretty slim today. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: That is a big one, especially I mean combined we

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Speaker 1: Brevin Spanford will have an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: I think John Stevens Junior is still a little banged up.

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Speaker 5: We'll see if that had a save. He Key gang

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Speaker 4: For today's practice, John Stevens is another one that you

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Speaker 4: Look the Cowboys for the most part, Jake Ferguson, notwithstanding

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Speaker 1: You gotta be pleased. Let's take our first break, then

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Speaker 5: It is a Wednesday, which means it's time to take

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Speaker 5: a look at the Cowboys defensive preview versus the New

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara still the threat that he once was down

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Speaker 3: In air hockey, do you guys cross the median? Do

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Speaker 1: Oh my, yeah, you gotta yeah, are you gonna get

443
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Speaker 1: his knuckle? You must not be very good at I'm

444
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Speaker 1: a Jedi. I'm a Jedi the way your t rex.

445
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Speaker 11: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, we're taking the sidecar. We're making We're

447
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Speaker 1: taking this over the sidecar. I think they've got one.

448
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Speaker 1: I played the one with like three pucks. Oh have

449
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Speaker 1: you so? Why are you reaching?

450
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Speaker 2: Reach?

451
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Speaker 1: Wh reaching QB vision you reach ost It's like the

452
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Speaker 1: old XFL kickoff.

453
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Speaker 3: You know.

454
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Speaker 1: Have you ever played the one with like the one

455
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Speaker 1: hundred pucks where it's a lot? It's a lot going on? What? No,

456
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Speaker 1: it was wilds.

457
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Speaker 5: We were playing at one time. I can't remember where

458
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Speaker 5: we were. We were at some bar or something, and

459
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Speaker 5: you play all the way through, but if you hit

460
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Speaker 5: like a certain part of the board, or certain part.

461
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Speaker 1: Of the the table.

462
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Speaker 5: It like releases from the sides and it's like a

463
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Speaker 5: hundred puffs.

464
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Speaker 7: That's a lot of to get.

465
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Speaker 1: And we didn't know it was happening. We had no

466
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Speaker 1: idea that what was you have to I don't know

467
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Speaker 1: what they're called. You have to handles hopped out.

468
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have two goalies And we were wondering that.

469
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Speaker 5: We're like, why do you want to handles?

470
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Speaker 1: That's why? A dude, I guarantee you Beamer just jumped

471
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Speaker 1: in the back. I guarantee you he just jumped, all right.

472
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Speaker 5: Cowboys versus Saints this weekend, of course, the Cowboys and Saints,

473
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Speaker 5: that's a storied rivalry going all the way back to

474
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Speaker 5: god knows how long the Big Easy making their way

475
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Speaker 5: to Arlington, Texas back at at and T Stadium. Cowboys defense,

476
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Speaker 5: of course, they were the storyline in Week one. They

477
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Speaker 5: looked fantastic against Deshaun Watson and company. Can they do

478
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Speaker 5: so for an encore in week two? Josh, I'll start

479
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Speaker 5: with you, what's the number one thing you want to

480
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Speaker 5: see from this team to bring an encore into Week

481
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Speaker 5: two's matchup with New Orleans.

482
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Speaker 6: Well, it's keeping Derek carrn check. He now has new

483
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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak, who was once on Mike Zimmer's

484
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Speaker 6: coaching staff back in Minnesota. Sob tree the Kubiak tree,

485
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Speaker 6: and I think is relying on their offensive line movement.

486
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Speaker 6: They ran motion on sixty six percent of their plays

487
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Speaker 6: last week. Forty percent of cars dropbacks were play action,

488
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Speaker 6: So it might be hard at least for them to

489
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Speaker 6: have their plays developed like they did last week. They

490
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Speaker 6: were going against the Panthers who were arguably not you know,

491
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Speaker 6: arguably arguably not great. I don't want to lay on

492
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Speaker 6: them too much, but I don't think they're gonna be

493
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Speaker 6: able to rely so much on the play action because

494
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Speaker 6: having those plays developed with this Cowboys defensive line is

495
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Speaker 6: going to be tough. They're gonna be chased after all game.

496
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Speaker 6: I don't think Cars going to have is eighty three

497
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Speaker 6: percent pass completion this game with a one hundred and

498
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Speaker 6: forty two point five power passer rating. I don't think

499
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Speaker 6: that's gonna happen. But Derek Carr is a weapon, and

500
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Speaker 6: he was throwing dimes all last week. There were good game,

501
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 6: several touchdowns that were dropped from perfect Derek Carr throws are.

502
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Speaker 5: This is kind of an interesting look. From the beginning

503
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Speaker 5: of last year. Right beginning of last year, there's four

504
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Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the NFL that have games with three passing

505
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 5: touchdowns and zero interceptions, either at the level.

506
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Speaker 1: Or more than Dak Prescott.

507
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Speaker 5: Jordan Love has five of those games three interceptions or

508
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Speaker 5: I mean three touchdowns no interceptions.

509
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Speaker 1: Jordan Love has.

510
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Speaker 5: Five, Rock Perty has five, Dak Prescott has five, Derek

511
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 5: Carr has three right there too, like he has three

512
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 5: of those games all have come since Week fifteen of

513
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Speaker 5: last year. So let's just say right now, from the

514
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Speaker 5: final four games of last year to the first game

515
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Speaker 5: of this year, he's had three of those games, which

516
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Speaker 5: means he's figuring something out along the way.

517
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Speaker 7: They were red hot at that at the end of

518
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Speaker 7: last year. For sure.

519
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Speaker 4: For me, it's keep the pressure on. You got to

520
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Speaker 4: keep the pressure on. That's one thing that if you

521
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Speaker 4: go back and you look at the game between the

522
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Speaker 4: Panthers and the Saints, one of the reasons the Saints

523
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Speaker 4: were able to hang forty seven on the Panthers is

524
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Speaker 4: the Panthers could not consistently make Derek Carr uncomfortable back there.

525
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Speaker 4: They couldn't they just let him sit back there and

526
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: he was filing his texas between throws, and you can't

527
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Speaker 4: do that, especially when you have weapons like Shaheed who

528
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: can do some damage out there. We talk about Alvin Kamaro,

529
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Speaker 4: will talk in greater detail about him soon, But for me,

530
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Speaker 4: it's keep the pressure on and keep your gap discipline.

531
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Speaker 4: When it comes to a shifty guy who can do

532
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: damage in space like Alvin Kamara out of the backfield,

533
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Speaker 4: you do that. I would look at the twenty eighteen film,

534
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Speaker 4: I believe it was twenty eighteen. If I'm Mike Zimmer,

535
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 4: I look at the twenty eighteen film and I look

536
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: at Jordan Lewis and say, hey, remember that, Yeah, remember that?

537
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Speaker 4: And you allow Jordan Lewis to spy on Alvin Kamara

538
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Speaker 4: and in doing so a few years ago, he shut

539
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: Camara down in that game. So be it Jordan Lewis

540
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Speaker 4: or with the speed of demarveon overshown that we've seen

541
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Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks to speed. The linebackers are going to be

542
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: tested again sideline to sideline. But if you can get pressure,

543
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: because the Saints front five it isn't sensational, right, you

544
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: can get pressure on the guy. But the Panthers front

545
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: four is not exceptional at doing so.

546
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Speaker 1: Now Cowboys front is.

547
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Speaker 4: So if you can do that, make Derek Carr uncomfortable

548
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: and maybe spy Alvin Kamara, I think you walk away

549
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 4: with a winning this game.

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Speaker 1: Probably no spy, no spy, no spy, no spy. Make

551
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: him prove it. Okay, player based defense. Listen, you think

552
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: this is different. This is speed on speed. It is.

553
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: This is speed on speed.

554
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: The Saints literally just lifted the chin of the Panthers

555
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: and smacked me.

556
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: Okay, and the reason why personal was personnel. You know

557
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Lift the chin? Uh, where's my powder? Exactly?

558
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: The Saints want to stretch you out. Yeah, I think

559
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: you're on the one shot.

560
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. I can't see behind.

561
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Speaker 3: They want to stretch you sideline the sideline, and they

562
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: want to much like coach McCarthy did a really good

563
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Speaker 3: job of keeping the Browns off kilter in terms of

564
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: not just going downhill every time. Right, it was our

565
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: end and round, it was a screen, it was a

566
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: you know, a pass out to the flats. That's exactly

567
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: what the Saints did last week. They literally threw a

568
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: ton of screens, and it was almost like they ran

569
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Speaker 3: screens to run passes. So it wasn't even like you know,

570
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: it wasn't like a run to play. It was a

571
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: screen to play action. And when they have you, they

572
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: overload you in terms of personnel. So they'll play three

573
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: four guys on one side and throw a screen right

574
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: out the backfield, whether it's to Kamara, whether it's to Shahi,

575
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: whether it's to Taysom Hill. They'll throw it out there

576
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: and make you come downhill now, right, but it's going

577
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: to be outside the tackle box. So they really want

578
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: to get you running sideline the sideline, and they don't

579
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: do a lot coming straight at you. Once you start

580
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: going sideline the sideline, that's when they try to sneak

581
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: it by you and give it to Kamara inside the

582
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: tackle box. Once they get you going sideline the sideline

583
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: and really coming downhill aggressively towards the screen, that's when

584
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: the play action happens.

585
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Right.

586
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: So you're really gonna have to be disciplined all right

587
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: in your assignments. And I don't think that Dallas to

588
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: date has a problem with that. We've seen it all

589
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: through training camp. They're very disciplined We saw it through

590
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: the preseason games. They're pretty disciplined, and now we've seen

591
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: it against the Cleveland Browns in the regular season, where

592
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: they were disciplined. They don't let allow guys to get

593
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: behind them. And with that, I think that the Saints

594
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: are gonna have issues offensively because a Dallas Cowboys can

595
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: match their speed. They have guys linebackers that can run around,

596
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: they have defensive linemen that are not just gonna sit

597
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: back and play paddy Cake on the chest of offensive linemen.

598
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna come after Derek Carr, right, and they're gonna

599
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: have to come after car because the last three games

600
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Speaker 3: d Carr has had seven and we go back to

601
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: last season, seventy six completions, seventy six percent completion rate, right,

602
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns, and one hundred and twenty nine passer rating

603
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: first first and first of all quarterbacks who have over

604
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Speaker 3: fifty passes.

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Speaker 1: You gotta rattle them, You got to, you gotta put

606
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Speaker 1: some pressure.

607
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Speaker 3: He was sitting back there baking the cake last week

608
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: and he was able to push it down the field

609
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: because of that. So you take away his ability to

610
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: be comfortable because you have defensive linemen like deed law

611
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: like Michael Parsons that can go ahead and get after

612
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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So he's not gonna have all day Osa's beast.

614
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Speaker 3: Okay, so he's not gonna be comfortable, which means he's

615
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: not gonna have the time to sit back and throw

616
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Speaker 3: the ball down the field.

617
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna have linebackers.

618
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: That can go up and make plays in the backfield

619
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Speaker 3: in terms of stopping the screen, so you're not using

620
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Speaker 3: your defensive backs and safeties and everybody else that are

621
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Speaker 3: going to be bum rushing up there and then leaving

622
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Speaker 3: something behind them, right in terms of big plays. So

623
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Speaker 3: the areas that the Carolina Panthers were weak, the Dallas

624
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Cowboys is strong. And I'm really looking forward to that

625
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: matchup of Zimmers versus his offense.

626
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Speaker 5: I want you to tell me a little bit about

627
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Speaker 5: these weapons when we come back.

628
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Speaker 1: I wanted to.

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Speaker 5: I know we know about Alvin Kamara, and I think

630
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Speaker 5: my question is is he one of the once was

631
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 5: maybe not one hundred percent of close.

632
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Speaker 1: I mean he had one hundred yards from scrimmage last week,

633
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: he had a touchdown.

634
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Speaker 5: He's still decent. But you also know about Chris Olave.

635
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit unknown guy with Rashi or how

636
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: do you say that? Shahied love that name, by the way,

637
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed and what he does. I mean that's kind

638
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 5: of a relative unknown. He's been fantastic recently.

639
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: Speed speed, Speed Speed.

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Speaker 5: Tell me about these guys when we come back on

641
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Speaker 5: the other side of the break, more talking cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Welcome in, everybody, hope we're bringing some smiles to your

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Speaker 5: faces today, Like crazy, crazy Isaiah.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how to do this. I don't want

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Speaker 7: to be around an.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys talk about anymore. And

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Speaker 1: yet he doesn't want to go No, dude, I love

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Speaker 1: this show. That's so fun every day. Be a part

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Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys Nation. That's just knocking. Just go ahead,

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Speaker 1: and can we get our own T shirt?

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Speaker 3: Mate, because somebody out there make a Talking Cowboys T shirt?

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Speaker 7: I want, you know, what I want is a coaches jacket.

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Speaker 7: You know, what I mean, like one of those like yeah,

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Speaker 7: break home.

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Speaker 1: We started to start that sound.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Hey, anybody out there who's listened, who's a

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Speaker 3: talking Cowboys fan? Okay, if you guys are having any

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Speaker 3: skills in terms of graphic design, now, I'm not talking

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Speaker 3: about the AI stuff where you talk to it. I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about actual skills, okay, where you can design something.

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Speaker 3: Make us some T shirts and send them over here.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm an XL XL medium three baby three XL two

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Speaker 1: There you go, y'all send it over there.

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Speaker 3: We will rocking on the show bro for real. Matter

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Speaker 3: of fact, we'll have a competition of who has the

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Speaker 3: best design. So y'all send us some T shirts. We'll

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Speaker 3: have a competition, but we will rock it on the air.

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Speaker 5: Just put like my name on it and then send

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Speaker 5: it to the Star and like they look up the

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Speaker 5: stars address.

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Speaker 1: If you want to sing with it, it'll end up.

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Speaker 1: Let's have that competition. Is like one Dallas Cowboys wave.

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Speaker 5: It's one Cowboys and on the back, make sure that

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Speaker 5: there's a bowl of Quaker oats.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Please, Yeah, just just the back design, dude.

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Speaker 5: I swear if we get a box of T shirts

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Speaker 5: and there's a bowl of Quaker oats.

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Speaker 1: On the back, I'm gonna laugh. So I would definitely

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Speaker 1: wear it. I'm never shared of the rocket, all right.

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Speaker 5: Saints have won five of their last six games since

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Speaker 5: Week fourteen of twenty twenty three. Only team with a

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Speaker 5: better record from that point on is the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 5: six and oho are the Bills at that point.

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Speaker 1: The Saints in that time spaner.

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Speaker 5: Leading the league with a thirty two points per game mark.

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Speaker 5: They have been tearing it up in that five and

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Speaker 5: one stretch, and really a big reason for that. Not

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Speaker 5: only is Derek Carr, It's been the weapons that he's

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Speaker 5: throwing the football tude she He led the Saints with

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Speaker 5: seventy three yards last week and receiving touchdown in Week one.

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Speaker 5: He also part of that was a fifty nine yarder

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Speaker 5: against Carolina in Week one, fourth receiving touchdown of over

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Speaker 5: fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: For Shaheed, tell me a little bit about what he does.

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Speaker 1: You said speed is that? It is it just his

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Speaker 1: calling card or what else is he doing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's really it is that accompanied by the

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Speaker 3: fact that nobody else around him is a Swiss Army

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Speaker 3: knife as well. So Alvin Kamara can line up as

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Speaker 3: a receiver Kamara, sorry, he can line up as a receiver.

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Speaker 1: He can line up in Kamara I thought it was Kamara. Kamara.

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Speaker 3: So he can line up in a backfield. He'll come downhill,

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Speaker 3: he'll run out screens, he'll line up as a receiver.

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Speaker 3: He'll line up as a slot. So he's a Swiss

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Speaker 3: Army knife. Taysom Hill, we know he could throw the ball.

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Speaker 3: He's a full back, he's a running back, he's a

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Speaker 3: tight end, so he's a Swiss Army knife. And then Rashiah,

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Speaker 3: this dude's all over the place as well. So as

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Speaker 3: a matter of being able to identify within their personnel

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Speaker 3: not only okay, what position do they play, but what

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Speaker 3: position are they playing on this particular play, and then

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Speaker 3: how can they be a threat to me? All of

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Speaker 3: them could run screens, all of them Dan there could

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Speaker 3: throw the ball. All of them can line up anywhere

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Speaker 3: across the field. So it makes it difficult in that

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Speaker 3: regard because you can't put those individuals in a box

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Speaker 3: you can't put their personnel in a box because you

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Speaker 3: always have to be aware that, shoot, Alvin Kamara, he

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Speaker 3: could throw the ball, Okay, al kamarga line.

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Speaker 1: He gonna be a slot receiver.

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Speaker 3: He could be a receiver, he could be running back,

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Speaker 3: take some hill, he could do absolutely everything. I can't

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Speaker 3: just treat him as a tight end. I can't just

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Speaker 3: treat him as a running back. I always have to

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Speaker 3: be aware of the fact that he could throw the

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Speaker 3: ball behind my head as well, and he can block,

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Speaker 3: and he could block right, so he all those guys

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Speaker 3: present a problem because everything's on the table. One of

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Speaker 3: the things about defense is I watch enough film, I

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Speaker 3: understand what your personnel grouping is, I understand what your

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Speaker 3: formation is, and then based upon those things, now I

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Speaker 3: can start eliminating potential threats. You can't do that against

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Speaker 3: these guys because everybody does everything.

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Speaker 6: And you also can't discount Chris o'lave either. Number twelve.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's a great receiver in his own right.

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Speaker 1: He could be a superstar. He's legit.

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Speaker 6: He had an eleven hundred yard season last year with

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Speaker 6: five touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: I mean she he'd also had five touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 7: He had a.

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Speaker 6: Quiet game though last week, with only two catches for

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Speaker 6: eleven yards, but he is a he's definitely a weapon.

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Speaker 6: In fact, he almost didn't need to throw to him

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Speaker 6: with how other running the ball, just getting the ball

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Speaker 6: down the field that they didn't need to give Alvey

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Speaker 6: a second look last week.

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Speaker 1: Obby is their best receiver and they've barely.

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Speaker 7: Got him involved.

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Speaker 3: In those that are listening, I know we didn't really

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Speaker 3: bring up a Lobby in that little segment right there,

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Speaker 3: but he's their best receiver, so he's their gold guy.

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Speaker 3: He's their guy that they're getting the ball to for

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Speaker 3: the big play they like. Just just to your point,

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Speaker 3: he was quiet last week, but please believe they're not

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Speaker 3: going to go two weeks not allow him to have opportunities.

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Speaker 5: I think that the thing about Olive, they expect him

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Speaker 5: to be their top receiver, right like they when they

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Speaker 5: took him in the first round out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: That was the number one thing for Chris Olave And

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Speaker 5: I loved Chris o'lave here in the draft show.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's a phenomenal player.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that they find a second guy like

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Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed who can compliment what the speed and the

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Speaker 5: ellusiveness and the route running ability that Olave has with

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Speaker 5: some speed and some just reliable hands and some yards

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Speaker 5: after the catch.

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Speaker 1: That's what's dangerous.

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Speaker 5: It's the duo between the two and that's what's going

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Speaker 5: to stretch the secondary this week.

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Speaker 6: And speaking of duo, let's I know we're gonna talk

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Speaker 6: about Alvin Kamara at length, but Jamal.

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Speaker 1: Williams games as well.

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Speaker 6: That is a dangerous backfield because of the tandem is sick.

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Speaker 6: He had a slow year last year where he only

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Speaker 6: averaged about three yards per carry, but just two years ago,

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, he had a thousand yard season with

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Speaker 6: a four yard per carry average.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this question, then, which one

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Speaker 1: threatens you more?

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Speaker 5: The passing game and the weapons on the outside or

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Speaker 5: the two running backs in the backfield.

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Speaker 6: I like our secondary a lot. I'm worried about consistent

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Speaker 6: run game. A consistently good run game coming at us down,

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Speaker 6: down after down.

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Speaker 7: That's me.

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Speaker 6: And then also, of course Derek Carr using that to

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Speaker 6: his advantage and throwing us throwing over.

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Speaker 4: The top and for me until further notice. And I'd

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Speaker 4: love it. Although Isaiah did kind of allude to it.

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Speaker 4: The Browns kind of got away from the run, but

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Speaker 4: when they tried the run, it wasn't working up the

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Speaker 4: middle right, they had to go to the edges, and

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Speaker 4: then that speed from the linebackers kicked in, and not

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Speaker 4: only speed from the linebackers but patients. We know Eric

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Speaker 4: Kendricks is a former first team All Pro, so you

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Speaker 4: expect that his IQ and his veteran a need to recognize, diagnose,

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Speaker 4: and be patient and strike when he needs to strike.

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Speaker 4: That's going to be there, and it was there. It

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Speaker 4: was evident against the Browns, but so was over shown's.

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Speaker 4: I did a film breakdown on defense earlier this week,

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Speaker 4: and there were times where the young man didn't just

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Speaker 4: shoot himself out of the cannon. He stalked like he

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Speaker 4: was stalking prey on Deshaun Watson and whoever was coming

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Speaker 4: out of the backfield before he struck. So I think

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Speaker 4: that's going to help you as far as defending the

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Speaker 4: run on the edges. But you got to stop the

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Speaker 4: run to have some fun. Stop the run to have

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Speaker 4: some fun. So you stop the run, and that's going

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Speaker 4: to force because Jamal Woods, he's going to try to

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Speaker 4: a gap be gap it right, Alvin Kamara. He can

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Speaker 4: do ab, but he wants to hit con outside. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So force them outside. Shut down the middle with the

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Speaker 4: big boys, Jordan Phillips, Monzi Smith, Osodiggy Zoo, Chauncey Ghost

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Speaker 4: and get those guys lin Vald Joseph, get those guys

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Speaker 4: doing that work up the middle. Stop the run, force

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Speaker 4: the runs to the outside. Now your linebackers who have

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Speaker 4: the speed, they can match them. They can go sideline

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Speaker 4: to sideline, which then allows your defensive ends. Michael Parsons

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Speaker 4: mar Shawn Naland had six pressures. Marshaw Kneeland had two

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Speaker 4: more pressures last week then did two of the defensive

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Speaker 4: ends for the Panthers against Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: So this.

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Speaker 4: The Panthers had only the only how can I wear this?

880
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Speaker 4: The only pressures they had against Derek Carr from the

881
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: defensive front came on the edges, not the interior. It

882
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: was two and two. It was a Shawn Robinson and

883
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: it was jadaeve Yon Clowney.

884
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: That's it. Four. Let me put that in perspective.

885
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: Last week again or Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, Michael

886
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: Parsons had nine de Marcus Lawrence had eight pressures, marshaw

887
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: Naland had six, Chauncey Ghosten had four. Exactly get pressure,

888
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: force him to be uncomfortable, and now your takeaways come.

889
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: But again, none of that happens if you can't stop

890
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: Elvin Kamara and especially Jamal Williams.

891
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm with you.

892
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 4: I can get jiggy with the no no QB spot

893
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: because you have speed. Eric Kendricks, Mayor Stiel Foul and

894
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: those guys. However, and I was sean let him hunt

895
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: good with that, but you got to stop that run

896
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 4: up the middle.

897
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 5: I want to ask you that kind of a follow

898
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: up on Cleveland, Mazzi Smith was graded as the lowest

899
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 5: player on the entire Cowboys defense. He's graded by PFF

900
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 5: as a thirty in Week one, thirty even terrible grade.

901
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 5: When I went back and watched the film, I really

902
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 5: didn't think it was that bad. Did I think he

903
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 5: played well? No, I don't. I don't think Mazzie played well.

904
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: Did I think it was detrimental to the defense. I

905
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: also don't believe that either. Because the linebackers were able

906
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: to run free. There were some edge rusher or edge pressure.

907
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: With some edge pressures, there was a bajillion of edge pressure.

908
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: I think he did what he needed to do with

909
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: holding the line of scrimmage, which we talked about last

910
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 5: year a lot of times.

911
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: For a defensive tackle, that's all you need to do.

912
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 5: You need to hold your ground. He didn't get pushed backwards. Yeah,

913
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: what did you think from Mozzie Smith this week?

914
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: Is about what I expected, which is not high.

915
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: It's also I believe what this organization probably expected, which

916
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: is the reason why you've seen that room turn over. Yeah,

917
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: is that they've had They knew that what he was providing. Again,

918
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: he's still young, right, but what he was, what he

919
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: has been providing to date is not enough to impact

920
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 3: the game. It's enough to be present, yeah, but it's

921
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: not enough to impact the game.

922
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: So and I agree with you. I think he's present exactly,

923
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: but he would miss him. He's a first round pick. Yeah,

924
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I hear you. I trust me, I hear you loud.

925
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: He's got to be impactful and he's not in this scheme.

926
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: In this scheme currently, he has not shown the ability

927
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: to do what they're asking these guys to do, which

928
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: when you look at that game, Mozzi occupied a man. Okay,

929
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: the other guys occupied multiple guys, right, So it's the

930
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: difference between occupying a man and then occupying two offensive linements.

931
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: The reason why d laud, the reason why Michael Parson

932
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 3: is able to have one on one mattress is because

933
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: the guards and the centers were doubling up on our

934
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: interior defensive linement.

935
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: You had to double up on a lineman. So if I'm.

936
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: Consuming two of your five guys that could block, well,

937
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: guess who.

938
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Can roam free? Now? My dns have one on ones.

939
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: Now, my linebackers can roam free because they don't have

940
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: guys getting up to the next level. It's the thing

941
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: that we've talked about over the recent years in terms

942
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: of our defense alignment, interior deepens alignment, occupying offensive lineman.

943
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: If you're just taking up one for one, well, how

944
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: many d linemen do we have four? How many offensive

945
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: lineen do they have five? You're not doing anything in

946
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: terms of affecting or allowing guys that we need to

947
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: be our stars, which are the linebackers of this defense

948
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: to be able to do their jobs.

949
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: What I'll say is, and we talked about pfifth grades

950
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: yesterday because where they graded Tyler guiding for example, it's

951
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: not what the film shows, Okay, So we sell that

952
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 4: to say, you got to use all of these tools

953
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 4: in conjunction with each other, and they're not always going

954
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: to agree. The film will not always agree with the

955
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: numbers the numbers, and vice versa. But it's interesting when

956
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: you talk about Mazzie Smith had a Did he have

957
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: an above average game?

958
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: No?

959
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: Did he have a bad game in my opinion, No,

960
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: he just was there doing present. He will task for

961
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: doing it right right. He was there for ro Called.

962
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: He ate up a couple of double teams, and I

963
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 4: saw him walk a guy every once in a while

964
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: and just kind of stay in his space, which is

965
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: what you want your nose tackle to do. But here's

966
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: a number that's supported by some of the reps I

967
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: saw on film for Mozzie Smith, and I got to

968
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: throw it out there because it's for context. When Mozzie Smith,

969
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: this is this is per nextion stats. When Mozzi Smith

970
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: was on the field, the Browns offense averaged three point

971
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: eight yards per run. Okay, when he was off the

972
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: field that clicked up to five point two. So when

973
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: Mozzie Smith was on the field, it was a minus

974
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: one and a half yard per average difference.

975
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: That's significant. That it is significant.

976
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: So I say that to say keep that in mind

977
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 4: when if you're looking at Mozzie Smith through the eyes

978
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: of I want flashy numbers, the number one, you're not

979
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: assessing the nose tackle position correctly.

980
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: That's first and foremost.

981
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: Second of all, again, did he have as good a

982
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: game as I would say Jordan Phillips? No?

983
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: Right?

984
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 4: Can he improve? Absolutely he can do. I believe he will.

985
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: I believe you will. It's a long season, second year guy,

986
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: and now he's learning under a Jordan Phillips and a

987
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: Linvall Joseph's and stuff like that. But for him to

988
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: be graded where he was graded by PFF, that's what

989
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: I disagree with, not saying he had a quote unquote

990
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: good game, but he had a stable game.

991
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 5: If I were grading in in like PFF scale where

992
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: they really they keep it zero to one hundred, but

993
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 5: it's mostly between like thirty and eighty, right, I would

994
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 5: probably give him like a fifty.

995
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a stable game.

996
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 5: I'm not That's the thing. I'm not looking for stable.

997
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm looking for impactful. He's a first round pick. He's

998
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 5: going to play well.

999
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: Sorry, but that's that's future projection, and I understand, I

1000
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: agree with that.

1001
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: But if we're at if the question is we're in

1002
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: your two now, if.

1003
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: The question is my assessment of Sunday's game, it was

1004
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: a stable game that I expect and hope that he

1005
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: builds upon, and that minus one and a half in

1006
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: when that matters.

1007
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: So that matters.

1008
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: But again you have to look at that with a

1009
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: grain of salt as well, because he's in there on

1010
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: early downs and they were in a lot of passing situations.

1011
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: You can't everything. That's why, that's why I don't always

1012
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: look at just by themselves.

1013
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 6: Five snaps on the run there everything, five total snaps

1014
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 6: on run defense.

1015
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, so it's too small of a sample size.

1016
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: I think it's correct, and I'm not. I mean, he

1017
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 3: still has a long way to go in terms of

1018
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: making an impact. He has a time because he has

1019
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: sixty more games. So I'm looking forward to seeing his

1020
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: development hopefully and his growth. Again, when I used to

1021
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: watch film with myself, there is plenty of times where

1022
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: I'll watch it, I was like, you didn't do anything

1023
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: that anybody else couldn't have done.

1024
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: You did your job. You did your job. But there's

1025
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys that are capable of doing

1026
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: their job as well. Did you stand out?

1027
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: When I'm watching my daughter play soccer and the game's

1028
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: going on and I'm seeing her just be in present,

1029
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I literally say, he naughty impact, that's

1030
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: all impact, And she looks at me and she okay,

1031
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: are you making an impact? Am I doing anything that

1032
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: is affecting the outcome of these plays?

1033
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Now?

1034
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: This made me wonder what is past coverage? Not past coverage,

1035
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 4: but what his past defense looked like. That's far looked

1036
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: like as far as the sixteen reps, So the sixteen

1037
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: reps that he had, because again, if you're assessing a

1038
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: nose tackle, you want him to be able to eat

1039
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: up those double teams and things like that. Osa had

1040
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: eighteen double teams out of forty five snaps. Cool, you

1041
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: better be scared of Osa. Chauncey Golston had ten. And

1042
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: the only other person outside of Osa and Chauncey who

1043
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 4: had more double who was double team more was Michael

1044
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: Parsons outside on the edge. So Masi Smith, out of

1045
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: sixteen pass coverage reps, was double team forty four percent

1046
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: of the time. So to that degree he is at

1047
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 4: least doing that. So this is what I mean when

1048
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: I say stable. Do I want to see more? Absolutely?

1049
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: I want to see more from the former first round pick,

1050
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: and I think we'll get more. But in the assessment

1051
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: of Sunday's game again, was it good?

1052
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: Now?

1053
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: Was it bad?

1054
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 9: No?

1055
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: It was.

1056
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: You can't be disappointed. And that's what I'm talking about it.

1057
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: You can't be disappointed because you're to be disappointed means

1058
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: that you're let down from an expectation that you had.

1059
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: I was a little dead what I expected. I was

1060
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: a little disappointed.

1061
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: I was not I know, I expect growth from Mazi

1062
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: this year as time goes on.

1063
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: I thought it.

1064
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: Would look a little bit further along at this point

1065
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 5: in the season than it did.

1066
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: What did you see in camp that would lead you

1067
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: to believe that.

1068
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 5: That's the thing is like little things along the way.

1069
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 5: You should have seen his camp lash year. He's back

1070
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: to his camp lash.

1071
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: He is better than last year. Let's make that statement.

1072
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: He's better.

1073
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 5: I don't know if I don't know if I saw

1074
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 5: that Week one, I don't know if I saw him

1075
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 5: better than last year in Week one. Now, granted week one,

1076
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: I keep saying it's the first week of the season.

1077
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: There's a long way to go, but right now, if

1078
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: the season were to end today and we only play

1079
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 5: one game in the regular.

1080
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: Season, I would be disappointed in Mazie's man.

1081
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 5: I would I would feel I would feel like he's

1082
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 5: just a.

1083
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Lot more talk about after this.

1084
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 5: That is going to do it today for Talking Cowboys,

1085
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 5: hope you had some fun with us here over the

1086
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 5: last forty five minutes. For Chris b and Isaiah stand back,

1087
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez Patrick No C. Walker, I'm Kyle Yoman saying

1088
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 5: so long, We'll see you tomorrow with more Talking Cowboys.

1089
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1090
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