Speaker 1: Episode three seventy two, When to buy off brand and
Speaker 1: when to buy name brand.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
Speaker 2: save money, embrace simplicity and life. Here your hosts Jen
Speaker 2: and Jill.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Frugal Friends podcast.
Speaker 3: My name is Jen, my name is Jill.
Speaker 1: And before I started Frugal Friends, before I paid off
Speaker 1: my student loans, before I even thought about mindful spending
Speaker 1: and intuitive spending, I thought I was responsible with money
Speaker 1: because I bought generic brands. And I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of you guys out there are also in the same boat.
Speaker 1: And while we know that generic brands at this point
Speaker 1: are mostly the same as name there are some confusions.
Speaker 1: We pulled you guys in the friend letter, so we'll
Speaker 1: have some stuff to say about what you guys think
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Speaker 1: So yeah, we are going to talk about buying for
Speaker 1: quality versus buying for saving money, and how you can
Speaker 1: get the best of both worlds without sacrificing either.
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Speaker 1: off brand versus name brand? We are first going to
Speaker 1: dive into the normal what you want to know at
Speaker 1: the grocery store, but a lot of you had a
Speaker 1: lot of things to say on what you have to
Speaker 1: buy name brand, and so our poll and the friend letter,
Speaker 1: you guys above and beyond small appliances definitely need to
Speaker 1: buy name brand. But then after that it was specialty
Speaker 1: foods and meals and so and that we were kind
Speaker 1: of wondering that because everyone's buying our freezer vegetables and
Speaker 1: our canned goods, and you know, like our generic stuff,
Speaker 1: everybody's buying our generics. You know, there were a small
Speaker 1: contingency of you though paper and plastic products are are
Speaker 1: hard on the name brand, but a lot of you
Speaker 1: said medicine too, even though you know it's the same.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be talking in this first article about
Speaker 1: what chefs purchase generic and name brand on the food
Speaker 1: category and what pharmacists and doctors will buy name brand
Speaker 1: versus generic, because we I mean, we trust them, right,
Speaker 1: So we're looking we're taking a fun little spin on
Speaker 1: this and not just going through an article that says,
Speaker 1: you know, get all of these things off brand, they're
Speaker 1: all the same. But truly, what do the experts in
Speaker 1: their field bi generic themselves?
Speaker 3: And these are the most common categories that we're faced
Speaker 3: with regular weekly, monthly decisions of which one name brand
Speaker 3: or generic. Certainly, yeah, your smaller appliances and that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. That's a whole other search category. But when
Speaker 3: it comes to food and medicines, here's what they have
Speaker 3: to say. This article comes from NPR. It's a study
Speaker 3: that they did, and I like what they first start
Speaker 3: off by saying that pharmacists and doctors are more likely
Speaker 3: than the generic public to buy generic medicine, and similarly,
Speaker 3: chefs are more likely than the general public to buy
Speaker 3: generic food. Is what they found in this study. And
Speaker 3: from there the article is pretty much charts and graphs.
Speaker 3: That's it. It's just a graph of art. When do
Speaker 3: chefs buy generic? And they've got this whole list of
Speaker 3: the types of foods when they are tending to buy
Speaker 3: generics and when they're tending to buy name brand. Same
Speaker 3: chart for and pharmacists only with things related to their field.
Speaker 3: So we can start off with the chefs. They are
Speaker 3: primarily when it comes to favoring generics. The top items
Speaker 3: that most chefs who responded to the survey will buy
Speaker 3: generic is on baking mixes, which I side note, because
Speaker 3: you're listening to our podcast, you're going to get our commentary.
Speaker 3: This is somewhat surprising to me because I would expect
Speaker 3: that chefs and bakers are making their own baking mixes,
Speaker 3: so I'd be curious what it means.
Speaker 1: Flowers.
Speaker 3: I think that, yeah, yeah, because oursowers.
Speaker 1: The brown sugar, I mean the brown sugars on the list.
Speaker 1: But I would say, I would say flower, this is
Speaker 1: baking mixes, is flower because you definitely, I definitely see
Speaker 1: a difference in like brownie mixes name Brandon generic difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so and tea, baking soda, powdered sugar, brown sugar soups,
Speaker 3: cranulated sugars, spreads and dips. As I'm going down the list,
Speaker 3: it's getting less and less likely that they're favoring generics,
Speaker 3: but still leaning on the side of generics. These are
Speaker 3: fine spreads and dips, baking supplies, canned seafood, interesting dried fruit,
Speaker 3: pickles and olives, frozen juice, drinks, frozen breakfast foods, gems
Speaker 3: and jellies, condiments and sauces, syrup and molasses. Molasses size,
Speaker 3: however you would pluralize molasses. Frozen veggies. We all know
Speaker 3: that one. Salad dressings and mayo, cheese, oil and shortening,
Speaker 3: frozen fruit toppings, canned fruit, milk, frozen pizza and snacks, nuts, cookies,
Speaker 3: spices and seasonings, canned veggies, candy, butter, and margin. It's
Speaker 3: the very last one before it dips into people buy
Speaker 3: a named brand. Any of those stand out as surprising
Speaker 3: to you, Jen.
Speaker 1: So, I will say the first. The first four are
Speaker 1: definitely far above and beyond all the others, as baking mixes,
Speaker 1: which we're going to call flour, tea, baking soda, powdered sugar.
Speaker 1: So I'd think you're pantry basics. I'm not surprised that
Speaker 1: they're all buying them generic. A few things did surprise me,
Speaker 1: so frozen pizza and snacks.
Speaker 3: It's a small, small.
Speaker 1: Percentage, but it does lean in favor of generic. And
Speaker 1: I think the list of things that chefs will buy
Speaker 1: name is actually very short, so there are quite a few.
Speaker 1: I think it probably dips into like half and half
Speaker 1: territory once we get to around nuts. So nuts, cookies, spices, seasonings,
Speaker 1: canned vegetables, candy, and butter, margarine. Those are kind of
Speaker 1: I would say, in the middle. It's like, it's take
Speaker 1: it or leave it on what your preferences. I buy
Speaker 1: all generic nuts. I think they're fine. Spice and season same,
Speaker 1: canned vegetables, same, but candy I would never buy generic,
Speaker 1: so but I don't buy candy that often too, So
Speaker 1: you kind of gotta take it or leave it with
Speaker 1: you know, most of the things that these chefs buy
Speaker 1: are generic. That I think that's the point.
Speaker 3: And to clarify, we're not talking about organic versus non organic.
Speaker 3: We're talking generic versus name brand. Because you can get
Speaker 3: organic generic in a lot of these different categories as well,
Speaker 3: and so I think we could kind of apply these
Speaker 3: similar concepts to that as well. You can get organic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Eric one of the I mean a couple
Speaker 1: of the responses we got from the front letter is
Speaker 1: that people do will buy name brand organic food for
Speaker 1: their nutritional value. But organic generic is the same as
Speaker 1: organic name brand, so you can still save money on
Speaker 1: your organic products. They come from the same farm if
Speaker 1: you are you know, if you know any farmers, you
Speaker 1: know that if they are, if the farm is organic,
Speaker 1: then they're selling their produce to somebody who is selling
Speaker 1: it to both stores and name brand sellers.
Speaker 3: So all of these whole are yeah. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: talk to anyone who's in wholesale distribution and they'll be
Speaker 3: able to talk to you about white labeling who they
Speaker 3: sell to, how those brands are then able to put
Speaker 3: their own brand or on the packaging. But really we're
Speaker 3: all kind of getting from a lot of the same distributors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about these things that chefs time
Speaker 1: and time again will always choose name brand on. And
Speaker 1: we're going to start at the lowest, So the next
Speaker 1: one on the list and go down to the highest,
Speaker 1: which was far and above anything. It is even higher
Speaker 1: than like flower being something they all buy generic. This
Speaker 1: is far and above anything they all buy name brand.
Speaker 1: So the first one is Eggs. It dips a little
Speaker 1: bit into the buy name brand. And I was shocked
Speaker 1: about this one. I always buy the store brand, but
Speaker 1: I buy cage free. There's so many types of eggs.
Speaker 1: Now you've got your regular, you've got your cage free,
Speaker 1: and then you've got your organic cage free. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to go somewhere in the middle
Speaker 1: to go cage free. I like a brown egg. I
Speaker 1: just prefer it. So I go in the middle there
Speaker 1: and I save a little bit of money. But eggs
Speaker 1: is the first one on this list. Carbonated beverages, yes,
Speaker 1: hands down. Of course, they've got proprietary recipes that are
Speaker 1: guarded with lives that are dispensable. So like, yes, frozen
Speaker 1: baked goods one hundred percent, Yes, you can't. You can't
Speaker 1: get better than a Marie Calendar pie if you made it.
Speaker 1: Juice drinks, that was actually surprising to me because we
Speaker 1: will all I'm maybe this is juice blends. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but we're always when we do get juice, which is rare,
Speaker 1: most it's usually orange juice, always the store brand. But
Speaker 1: I can see I don't really drink juice. So if
Speaker 1: you're if you love juice, I could maybe see this
Speaker 1: yogurt I yes, yes for me, but only because the
Speaker 1: flavors are more unique in name brand cereal. So we're
Speaker 1: in our top three. We're in our tarp three Cereals
Speaker 1: number three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1: Everybody is here for that number two, which has double
Speaker 1: the number of responses dried veggies and grains. So this
Speaker 1: was really odd to me. Yeah, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever bought a name brand reggie,
Speaker 1: dried veggie or grain.
Speaker 3: I don't think dried veggies. What is that chips? Are
Speaker 3: we talking about chips? We're talking about potato chips? Is
Speaker 3: that a dried veggie?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, maybe I don't anyways, Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 1: I don't think you never think of any I never
Speaker 1: bought them. Interesting, and then the number one thing on
Speaker 1: the list that almost everybody his name brand. Nobody's getting
Speaker 1: it from the store ice cream, and the hands down, yes,
Speaker 1: Hogen DAWs is it if you're asking, it's Hogan DAWs.
Speaker 3: I take it to the next level. And I won't
Speaker 3: even buy ice cream from the store. I'm going to
Speaker 3: the creamers. There are some good ones where I'm from
Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania, and that's where you're getting ice cream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is if you're gonna go out somewhere.
Speaker 1: Why go out for dinner go out for ice cream?
Speaker 1: That's really because you cannot make that quality at home.
Speaker 1: If you're going to go out, make sure you get
Speaker 1: something that you cannot make it home. And it is
Speaker 1: ice cream for sure. Ninja creamy ain't got nothing on it.
Speaker 1: So those are our our chef inspired list and it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the middle section is really like
Speaker 1: take it or leave it. I guess one once you
Speaker 1: get to I don't know. I would buy everything.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 1: I think I would agree everything on this list. I
Speaker 1: would buy generic, but I would also buy some of
Speaker 1: the other things generic too. Ice Cream is something I
Speaker 1: will buy name brand, And I would say salad dressings,
Speaker 1: but I make my own salad dressings, mostly frozen breakfast foods.
Speaker 1: They just don't have. I did buy. I did buy
Speaker 1: frozen chicken sausage, but they discontinued it, so now I
Speaker 1: have to buy the name brand. But yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's where I'm at. Everything generic though. Oh, cookies cookies,
Speaker 1: actually I will buy those name brand, but Public's Bakery cookies,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that counts. That's a generic, but
Speaker 1: they are the best cookies. Ever, so.
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's like a grocery store, that's the
Speaker 3: grocery store brand.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, is there anything on the generics list that
Speaker 1: you buy name brand?
Speaker 4: Jill?
Speaker 3: You know, I do get name brand ketchup. I've tried
Speaker 3: to branch out and I just can't do it. It's
Speaker 3: hines for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do it because I like their sugar free ketchup.
Speaker 1: But yeah, same, yeah, but yeah, so it's a short list.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think if you go into the grocery store knowing
Speaker 1: you have your like five things, you buy name brand,
Speaker 1: then that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Do it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to buy generic everything. And even when
Speaker 1: you are buying generic, you don't have to buy the
Speaker 1: lowest quality everything. I will get the store brand toilet paper,
Speaker 1: and I get the best quality of it. I get
Speaker 1: that beast quality store brand toilet paper.
Speaker 3: I think what stands out to me when it comes
Speaker 3: to food is it's all preference based. So I think
Speaker 3: that it's not necessarily that you're going to get lower
Speaker 3: quality as far as like nutritional value, but what are
Speaker 3: your taste preferences. Of course, you can compare ingredients from
Speaker 3: one to another and make your own choices, but You're
Speaker 3: not necessarily going to be making these awful decisions for
Speaker 3: the food you're eating by going generic versus name brand, again,
Speaker 3: because you can also get organic if that's your preference,
Speaker 3: within the generic brand. So that's what stands out to me.
Speaker 3: I think then when it comes to medicines and some
Speaker 3: of the more medical products, I think that can be
Speaker 3: some people's concern is the potency not there is what
Speaker 3: it's doing for my body not going to be as
Speaker 3: good if I'm getting generic versus name brand, And so
Speaker 3: I think this next s graph will help to shed
Speaker 3: some light on that. Again, this is going to be
Speaker 3: talk to your doctor. We're just talking about this survey
Speaker 3: that we're looking at. When the doctors themselves and the
Speaker 3: pharmacists themselves are saying are they buying name brand versus generic?
Speaker 3: I think that this is where people can feel a
Speaker 3: little bit more discomfort in decision making and feeling freedom
Speaker 3: of I don't feel like this is just preference anymore.
Speaker 3: What can be said about these and across the board.
Speaker 3: What the survey found is that doctors and pharmacists do
Speaker 3: buy generic pain medicine more often than your average person.
Speaker 3: And we can kind of go through the list and
Speaker 3: make your own decisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this list is definitely more even the chef one
Speaker 1: had definitely it was maybe just you know, a couple
Speaker 1: at the bottom where chefs prefer name brand. This one's
Speaker 1: more in the middle, like half are favoring generics in
Speaker 1: the category and half are favoring brands in these certain categories.
Speaker 3: Now, but the side is a part of that to
Speaker 3: do with the fact that by profession, doctors make more
Speaker 3: than chef's make. Do doctors well be as discerning with
Speaker 3: where they're spending their money as maybe chef you might
Speaker 3: need to.
Speaker 1: Be Okay, so immediately I would think that, But since
Speaker 1: our conversation with Vivian two from your rich bff, I
Speaker 1: have been altering my thinking. And she tell she talks
Speaker 1: about like how you can become have the rich mindset,
Speaker 1: especially and she said rich people. Of all of her
Speaker 1: experience with rich people, she lives between New York City
Speaker 1: and Miami, so lots lots of money in her circles.
Speaker 1: They don't pay full price. They never pay full price,
Speaker 1: and maybe like celebrity and people that are just like
Speaker 1: you know, made of money, they don't care. They have
Speaker 1: people buy their stuff, but regular old wealthy people who
Speaker 1: still make their own purchases. They do not pay full
Speaker 1: price on anything. They look for the deals, and so
Speaker 1: I think this one comes from just like I know
Speaker 1: my doctors whenever I've talked to them about over the counters,
Speaker 1: they've all been very quick to recommend just the you know,
Speaker 1: the Walmart brand or the Public's brand or whatever the
Speaker 1: generic brand is because they're thinking of their patient. They're thinking,
Speaker 1: they know medical care is super expensive, and so they
Speaker 1: want you to be able to afford to make yourself
Speaker 1: feel better just as much as you do. So I
Speaker 1: think that is the heart behind people the doctors and
Speaker 1: pharmacists who favor generics, I think, and by proxy, they're
Speaker 1: probably purchasing them for themselves more often because they're recommending
Speaker 1: them so much more often, and they see the results
Speaker 1: in their patients, Like if a bunch of people are
Speaker 1: getting the generic versus the brand, they see the brand
Speaker 1: is working better for their patients. They have a lot
Speaker 1: more data to work with than even is represented by
Speaker 1: their one vote. Yeah, so that my interpretation, But take
Speaker 1: that to the grain of salt too.
Speaker 3: For those polled. Here's where the doctors and pharmacists are
Speaker 3: leaning when it comes to favoring generic overname brand, and
Speaker 3: that includes it's all over the counter stuff. So again
Speaker 3: when it comes to your prescribe medications, talk to your doctor.
Speaker 3: But neproxy and sodium, so that's your leave EPs and salts,
Speaker 3: sleeping pills, Ibuprofen or Advil is the main brand of
Speaker 3: that one. Laxative caplets. So these are your top five
Speaker 3: of we're gonna go generic mostly most doctors and pharmacists.
Speaker 3: This is what they're saying. Now as I keep going
Speaker 3: down the list, it's getting fewer and fewer, but still
Speaker 3: on the side of favoring generics, arthritis pain remedies, iron tablets,
Speaker 3: mineral caplets, nasal decongestins and acid liquid. That's your peptobysmal
Speaker 3: alternatives or generics. Aspirin tablets that's your bear generic rectal
Speaker 3: suppositories AO. You don't got to go name brand for
Speaker 3: those allergy tablets. So generic alternative to claritin, acetominifin. That's
Speaker 3: your generic for tylanol, plastic bandages versus your band aids,
Speaker 3: multi vitamins, cotton balls and in a very slim just
Speaker 3: neck and neck cotton swabs or Q tips and hey.
Speaker 3: Side note I am leaning on the side of favoring
Speaker 3: the brand. I've tried them, believe me, you it's funny
Speaker 3: that this is put in the category of medicines. I
Speaker 3: would not call cotton balls or cotton swabs medicines. But whatever,
Speaker 3: here we are, you're their medicine adjacent. And I have
Speaker 3: tried many different Q tips and they fall apart, they
Speaker 3: break apart inside of your ear. If that's what you're
Speaker 3: using them for, you're not supposed to show them. You're
Speaker 3: not supposed to.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, No, I do use Q tips almost daily
Speaker 1: in my ear, and I use the generic ones. I've
Speaker 1: never had one break apart in my ear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they like I mean, Eric is more rough rough
Speaker 3: on the ropes than I am, but they just it's
Speaker 3: not they'll poke not having it. Q tips for the
Speaker 3: wind for me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no. These last five really did shock me.
Speaker 1: I thought acetamnifin would be higher on the generic list,
Speaker 1: so that really shocked me. Plastic bandages, I will buy
Speaker 1: name brand band aids. They are much sturdier. Multi vitamins
Speaker 1: also shocked me. I would never buy a generic multi vitamin.
Speaker 1: They're already so unregulated. I have a hard time buying
Speaker 1: multi vitamins at all, and I really wouldn't buy a
Speaker 1: generic one. And then yeah, cotton balls Q tips, I
Speaker 1: do buy those generic. I guess I'm more delicate in
Speaker 1: my ear than everyone else. But yeah, those those shocked
Speaker 1: me I would buy. I would definitely get some of those.
Speaker 1: One that I'm kind of feeling called out for pep
Speaker 1: to bismol. I've never bought that generic brand, and it's
Speaker 1: pretty high. It's like in the middle of the list
Speaker 1: for generics. Oh yeah, so good. All right, So we've
Speaker 1: got a lengthier list of name brand preferences than our
Speaker 1: food list, but I'll let you know when we get
Speaker 1: to our top three. So, but we'll go from the
Speaker 1: from the next on the list all the way to
Speaker 1: the It was mostly everybody chose this last one. It
Speaker 1: was even higher than ice cream. So right, next, coming
Speaker 1: in hot with the first name brand preference, laxative tablets.
Speaker 1: That's a very small margin too, so if you're getting
Speaker 1: generic laxative tablets, you're probably all right. Next is low
Speaker 1: dose aspirin tablets. I'd probably agree there. Hydrogen peroxide and
Speaker 1: rubbing alcohol are next. I have never I didn't even
Speaker 1: know there wasn't name brand.
Speaker 3: For neither the name Now I'm always generic on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Contact lens solution one hundred percent. You gotta go
Speaker 1: name brand. You got to get the nice contact lens solution.
Speaker 1: I'm actually shocked. This is so middle of the road.
Speaker 1: I drop some lotions. Lotions is whatever, but I drops.
Speaker 1: Why are I drops and lotions in the same category.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fabric bandages, okay, so maybe this was why they
Speaker 1: put plastic bandages and fabric bandages separately. Antacid tablets we're
Speaker 1: getting pretty high. We are in the top five now.
Speaker 1: So we've got cotton rounds round a.
Speaker 3: Different from the cotton balls, so people are less discerning
Speaker 3: what their cotton balls, who cares? But when it comes
Speaker 3: to cotton round so we're getting name brand at least
Speaker 3: the doctors are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Coming in at number four is migrain tablets, So
Speaker 1: I I don't I didn't know there was anything besides
Speaker 1: Kyle and All for migraines. But migraine cap tablets coming
Speaker 1: at number four. Number three, rectal medication ointment is coming
Speaker 1: in at number three were rectal medication rectal suppository.
Speaker 3: Who cares, that's gonna be generic, But rectal medication ointment Okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Got a brand. Yeah, number two sleeping aid tablets, So
Speaker 1: this is interesting. We we got melatonin, We got a
Speaker 1: name brand kids melatonin for Kai. When we brought Atlas home,
Speaker 1: his sleeping was a little erratic for that transition, so
Speaker 1: we were giving him melatonin, and then we found out
Speaker 1: that the melatonin we gave him supposed to be one milligram,
Speaker 1: and studies came out and found that it was each
Speaker 1: gummy had two milligrams. It had over one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten percent more than the stated value per gummy. And
Speaker 1: so I mean, even with a name brand, you got
Speaker 1: to do your research. And honestly, I think name brands
Speaker 1: are more prone to this type of thing than a
Speaker 1: store brand, So do your research. But sleeping aid tablets.
Speaker 3: Sure, Now this is interesting because that's that's second to
Speaker 3: the second highest in doctors favoring name brands for sleeping
Speaker 3: aid tablets, but third to the highest and doctors preferring
Speaker 3: generic is sleeping pills. So I am not entirely sure
Speaker 3: the difference. But when it comes to sleeping pills, they're
Speaker 3: all like yeah, generic, But sleeping aid tablets they're all like, yeah,
Speaker 3: name brand to your do you figure it out. Figure
Speaker 3: out figure.
Speaker 1: Out how number one, number one at easily probably forty
Speaker 1: eight percent prefer brand over generic alkanola alcalizing effervescence Alka
Speaker 1: seltzer Doakka seltzer.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So if you need to get alkaline, don't go generic,
Speaker 1: go name.
Speaker 3: Brand, or at least that's what's there.
Speaker 1: You have it. There is your comprehensive list. The link
Speaker 1: to this is in our show notes. So if you
Speaker 1: just head to wherever you're listening to this and go
Speaker 1: into our show notes or click the link to our
Speaker 1: show notes, you'll be able to find the link to
Speaker 1: these charts and you can see for yourself what chefs, doctors,
Speaker 1: and pharmacists are buying generic and name brand.
Speaker 3: Well do we have time? Now? We have time. We're
Speaker 3: making time.
Speaker 1: We have time. Yeah, time TikTok yes. So I the
Speaker 1: inspiration for this episode came came from you. Guys. We
Speaker 1: will often do polls to and ask you what do
Speaker 1: you want to hear on the show. We do him
Speaker 1: about once a quarter. So this was one of your ideas.
Speaker 1: But I was, you know, scroll and Insta, and I
Speaker 1: came across this guy named orin Orn Meets World. He's
Speaker 1: on TikTok and Instagram and he's a creative director for
Speaker 1: you know, luxury e commerce, all of this. He's a
Speaker 1: really great follow even though nothing to do with what
Speaker 1: what we talk about, but he has the series that
Speaker 1: he does called Product Versus Brand and it's all these
Speaker 1: things that you are seeing influencers have like hawking on
Speaker 1: social media, you're getting served ads for you know, all
Speaker 1: of these things that you've se scene everywhere. And he
Speaker 1: goes through and he's like, when you buy this, are
Speaker 1: you buying the product? So you're buying it for quality,
Speaker 1: for how it lasts, for its function, or are you
Speaker 1: buying the brand? Are you buying it just to show
Speaker 1: it off to look cool? And so I thought this
Speaker 1: was going to be a really great way to round
Speaker 1: out this episode to talk about these products that you
Speaker 1: see all over are you buying the product versus the brand?
Speaker 1: And we're not going to play the tiktoks, but we
Speaker 1: are going to go through a few of his videos.
Speaker 1: We'll have the links again in the show notes, but
Speaker 1: let's start it off. I want to start out with
Speaker 1: one of my favorite topics he did a video on,
Speaker 1: and it is pans. When you buy pans are you
Speaker 1: buying the product or the brand, and he goes through
Speaker 1: all the popular ones, starting with all Clad, and when
Speaker 1: you buy all claud you are definitely buying the product.
Speaker 1: You're buying the best, but you're going to pay for it.
Speaker 1: So that's why we did a recent friend letter where
Speaker 1: we broke down how can you get all Clad quality
Speaker 1: or vet it through another another product line. So we
Speaker 1: talked about ply, we talked about all kinds of things.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we found a couple other options for you. They're
Speaker 1: actually in our Amazon storefront. I think, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you get to it. We have it for our
Speaker 1: book club, So I think like, if you go to
Speaker 1: Frugal friendspodcast dot com, slash books, you can find our
Speaker 1: books in our storefront. Also Slash Makeup. But if you
Speaker 1: find our Frugal Friends storefront, I think you'll find those
Speaker 1: those pants that we referred to in the front letter.
Speaker 1: So All Clad you buying product our place, which I
Speaker 1: had never heard of. But he says when you buy that,
Speaker 1: you're buying lies. So clearly you're buying brand Stop, which
Speaker 1: is a competitor to La Crusette. When you're buying Stop,
Speaker 1: it's less expensive, but you are buying product. It is
Speaker 1: just as good. So if you're looking for a very
Speaker 1: high quality La Crusette dupe, stop is it. It still
Speaker 1: is not cheap. But if you're looking really if quality
Speaker 1: in the kitchen is your priority, stop you're buying the product, Caraway,
Speaker 1: I have seen ads for this. You're buying the brand.
Speaker 1: There is no legitimate like, it's not better than any
Speaker 1: other pan you can buy hex Clad, this is the
Speaker 1: one he uses. He says, you're buying both. It's got
Speaker 1: a good brand and the product is really good. He's
Speaker 1: used it for a long time. And then the last one,
Speaker 1: La Cruset. He says it's the ultimate example of both.
Speaker 1: And he actually has a full breakdown of the brand
Speaker 1: strategy for La Crusette, like the color strategy. It is
Speaker 1: like mind opening. I guess I don't know how you
Speaker 1: would say that, but man, the thought that goes behind
Speaker 1: their color strategies and their limited editions and they're expiring
Speaker 1: and new. It's like the brand marketing is really great,
Speaker 1: but the product will also last you forever. And people
Speaker 1: in the comments were saying it's the ultimate of like
Speaker 1: it's the ultimate like trick to get you to buy
Speaker 1: more of something. That lasts the lifetime is all the
Speaker 1: color stuff. So they haven't to get you to buy more.
Speaker 1: They haven't sacrificed quality.
Speaker 3: Amazing, But if.
Speaker 1: You're looking for a quality dupe, stop.
Speaker 3: And I will affirm that if you do Frugal Friends
Speaker 3: podcast dot com slash books, it will also take you
Speaker 3: to our pots and pans dupes recommendations, and our frugal
Speaker 3: makeup recommendations, and our and the books, the books that
Speaker 3: we talk about for our book club. All right, moving
Speaker 3: right along something. I'm super interested in water bottles. Oh goodness,
Speaker 3: we're all obsessed. We are. The water bottles are hydrated
Speaker 3: generation of people and myself included, especially when we are
Speaker 3: living in this age of desiring greater levels of sustainability,
Speaker 3: not wanting to be buying and carrying around plastic water bottles,
Speaker 3: reusable water bottles, water bottles that are insulated, how you
Speaker 3: drink out of them, how durable they are, This is
Speaker 3: what we want. I have one of the bottles on
Speaker 3: this list, and I have influenced others in my immediate
Speaker 3: circle to buy the water bottle that I use because
Speaker 3: I do think it's so great. So I was interested
Speaker 3: to see what Owen had to say about it. But
Speaker 3: the first one, the very first one, is the one
Speaker 3: I use a wala And he says that you are
Speaker 3: buying it for product. So again, buying product means you're
Speaker 3: purchasing for specific, unique qualities related to user experience. Usually
Speaker 3: it's a good product versus if you're buying for brand,
Speaker 3: you're going to pay a premium just for the company
Speaker 3: and their status, and maybe because users have a particular
Speaker 3: affinity for that thing, that's going to drive up the price.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't necessarily mean that the product is good.
Speaker 3: So aala, you're buying it for product, I mean specific
Speaker 3: qualities that are related to user experience. Is really good,
Speaker 3: I will affirm, because what I love about a wala
Speaker 3: is you can both sip out of it with a straw,
Speaker 3: and even with the straw in it, you can also
Speaker 3: tip it back and sip it like a cup without
Speaker 3: needing to change out any of the pieces. You have
Speaker 3: both functionalities to it and also a nice closeable lid,
Speaker 3: easy to clean. Love a walla not sponsored by them,
Speaker 3: but did like them. Please to see that. He also
Speaker 3: thinks you're buying it for product. Next on the list
Speaker 3: is hydro flask. There really is a battle out there
Speaker 3: between Owala and hydro Flask. But he says it's brand.
Speaker 3: It's all brand, baby, hate to break it to you.
Speaker 3: You're paying a premium for the company with a status
Speaker 3: people just like it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he says, it's it's not bad, but like
Speaker 1: the up charge is all brand. You can get the
Speaker 1: same thing for less money.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, you can find hydroflask alternatives. I do not
Speaker 3: know of an o Wala alternative, although I'm sure somebody's
Speaker 3: going to do it, they just haven't yet. Next on
Speaker 3: the list is Simple Modern. I have not heard of this,
Speaker 3: but I think it is an Amazon like if you
Speaker 3: search for it these cup Okay, so I don't really
Speaker 3: go on Amazon or Target. So that's why I've never
Speaker 3: heard of it. Okay, Simple Modern. Although what does he
Speaker 3: say about it?
Speaker 1: He says that you watched you.
Speaker 3: Just I know I did watch it, but I don't
Speaker 3: remember what he said about it.
Speaker 1: He said, you're paying for their legendary Amazon search optimization.
Speaker 3: So I guess that's just basically paying for brand.
Speaker 1: It's the it's a very inexpensive product, right, but it's
Speaker 1: not brand or product. You're not going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: showing off your simple modern like water bottle in your
Speaker 1: Instagram page. But it's also not like a super well
Speaker 1: made product. It's just everywhere. It's very easily purchased. It's
Speaker 1: probably very easily purchased second hand as well. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would buy a simple modern cup secondhand,
Speaker 1: but it probably is available. But you know, Walmart, Target, Amazon,
Speaker 1: you're paying for the legendary Amazon search optimization that they
Speaker 1: have honed over years. It's nothing special, but it is everywhere.
Speaker 3: Next on the list, Yeddy, Here you go. Everyone. You
Speaker 3: all know this. If you've got a yeady, you're paying
Speaker 3: for the up on this You comments are yeah. I mean,
Speaker 3: if they're paying for the brand, and they've paid that
Speaker 3: much for the brand, then they're all in. We're probably
Speaker 3: going to get tons of content. Probably not.
Speaker 1: Well, No, you've got a door. He was drinking out
Speaker 1: of one. He said, you're paying for the brand, but
Speaker 1: it's a good one. I'm using it right now.
Speaker 3: As a podcaster. I a little bit have beef with
Speaker 3: Yeddy to begin with, because they also made a microphone
Speaker 3: for some reason, and it's not good.
Speaker 1: Is it the same brand?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's the same. Now what I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: Was like, we make coolers and this one podcasting microphone,
Speaker 3: and everyone's like, oh, we got to get the microphone,
Speaker 3: and the rest of us podcasters are like, no, it's
Speaker 3: not actually good.
Speaker 1: No, it's Logitech, Jill, It's Logitech. Dang it yet made.
Speaker 3: We have our attraction, log We have a retraction. Folk, Jill.
Speaker 1: You went through your life thinking the blue Yetty was
Speaker 1: made by yet I did.
Speaker 3: Because because Kirkland exists. Because also Kirkland, who like sells
Speaker 3: chicken and boxers in like practically the same aisle. O.
Speaker 1: Logitech is not I mean, it's an okay brand.
Speaker 3: I really thought that they're like you and every.
Speaker 1: You're buying the search algorithm optimization on Logitech Blue Yetti
Speaker 1: it is the worst microphone.
Speaker 3: But here you go. Here's where the two converge. Don't
Speaker 3: waste your money on Yetti coolers and don't waste your
Speaker 3: money on a Yetti microphone, even if they aren't the
Speaker 3: same brand. It's not worth it.
Speaker 1: No, but Yetti is good quality. It's just like highly overpriced.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this next one quality, but you can
Speaker 3: find an excellent quality cooler not at Yetti prices. Okay,
Speaker 3: this next one. Y'all are waiting to know about your Stanley,
Speaker 3: and it's both. It's both. You're buying it for both
Speaker 3: brand and product. It's a great product, but also everybody
Speaker 3: and their mom literally their mom and you as mom
Speaker 3: are love and your Stanley for the brand of it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says. The actual caption is Stanley's CEO could
Speaker 1: unite this divided country. And I will say, okay, so
Speaker 1: I didn't get the hype, but we got Stanley Cupps
Speaker 1: as a gift and I have been using mine every
Speaker 1: day since then. I get the hype. I would never purchase.
Speaker 3: This, nor will you ever go out and get public
Speaker 3: holding one. Please say it, repeat after me.
Speaker 1: I already I will never go Already did I already did?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: There will till later.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm so bored camel back. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 3: we were talking forever. We could do a whole episode
Speaker 3: on just water bottles camel back. Camel Back is product,
Speaker 3: it's good product. You're buying it for the product. There
Speaker 3: you go, last, but not least now, Jeane, you're buying
Speaker 3: it for the brand. I loved how he wrapped up
Speaker 3: this TikTok by saying he's never met a small mouth
Speaker 3: now Gene drinker who he can trust.
Speaker 1: I don't narrow amount the cup, not the person, right,
Speaker 1: not the person Nalgene drinker that he could trust. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like why, It's.
Speaker 3: Why I will tell you because now I have hung
Speaker 3: out with some rock climbers. I have not become a
Speaker 3: rock climber, but I have hung out with not rock climbers,
Speaker 3: and they love their nal genes when climbing because of
Speaker 3: its durability. It can just knock up against be dropped
Speaker 3: against rocks. But also they don't need the insulation factor
Speaker 3: and the weight of a heavier insulated water bottle. They
Speaker 3: would prefer the plastic lightweight when climbing and carrying gear.
Speaker 1: So well, in that case, every every expo is giving
Speaker 1: you a free plastic water bottle.
Speaker 3: In that case, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: You're buying the brand and one quick last one. We're
Speaker 1: not going to go through this one the whole way,
Speaker 1: but I loved he did a product versus brand phones
Speaker 1: and we love this one he goes through. He actually
Speaker 1: introduced me to a couple phone brands that I didn't
Speaker 1: know of. And so maybe you will get introduced to
Speaker 1: some too. First one is dumb wireless, and they make
Speaker 1: essentially premium non smartphones, so it's got like everything you
Speaker 1: need except no social media and no Internet browser. But
Speaker 1: you can still listen to music, you can text message
Speaker 1: in every other way. It is a smartphone, but there's
Speaker 1: no Internet browser or social media options. And he said,
Speaker 1: you're buying that for product because you're buying that essentially
Speaker 1: it does things that no other product does.
Speaker 3: And he says, you're seeing you got to buy.
Speaker 1: In Yeah, the next iPhone, you're buying the brand. He
Speaker 1: does caveat with like the newest one, the iPhone fifteen Max.
Speaker 1: I think if you're a content creator creating content every day,
Speaker 1: then then you're buying the product. But if you are
Speaker 1: buying anything else and you have any other profession, you're
Speaker 1: buying the brand. He actually says, you're buying the blue bubble.
Speaker 1: But everyone will have blue bubbles soon, so buying the brand.
Speaker 1: Next is one plus. And I'd never heard of this
Speaker 1: one either, But you're buying the product and it actually
Speaker 1: looks like a very cool phone. It's got a light
Speaker 1: up back. It just looks sick. Next, Motorola Raser. You're
Speaker 1: buying the brand and it's a lame one at that
Speaker 1: Samsung z Flip though you're buying the product, he says,
Speaker 1: the ux is great and it is changing the game
Speaker 1: for flip phones. And then finally, Google Pixel, you're buying
Speaker 1: the brand that it is basically an iPhone knockoff. It's
Speaker 1: not innovating where all the other phone companies are innovating.
Speaker 1: But sound off in the comments.
Speaker 3: The commenter stand in our friend letter speaking of something
Speaker 3: that transcends brand name, brand generic. It just it is,
Speaker 3: has been and always will be the bill.
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Speaker 4: I just I am so excited to be able to
Speaker 4: leave this message for you folks. We really appreciate your podcast,
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Speaker 1: All right, what are the products that our name brand
Speaker 1: that you don't mine spending money on, whether it's for
Speaker 1: quality or not. For me, it's Apple products. It's just
Speaker 1: I've I've been a loyal Apple user since two thousand
Speaker 1: and six, two down six, two thousand and seven, and
Speaker 1: they have always served me really well. Every other computer
Speaker 1: I had before then had problems, and I've never had
Speaker 1: problems with my Mac that are not of my doing.
Speaker 1: Apple has never given me problems. The problems have always
Speaker 1: been my fault. So I'm a shill. I'll buy all
Speaker 1: of the Apple products and I but I don't buy
Speaker 1: a lot of tech stuff, like my tech stack is minimalist,
Speaker 1: and that is why I will spend more for Apple. Gosh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else. Do you notice anything about
Speaker 1: me let's name brand, the appliances we bought like name brand,
Speaker 1: not high end luxury, but we made sure to buy
Speaker 1: the name brand appliances for the renovation.
Speaker 3: And your name brand on your shoe or I guess
Speaker 3: specific brand. I don't know if you'd call it name brand,
Speaker 3: but you're running shoes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my running shoes are not a well known brand,
Speaker 1: but they are product for sure, product and brand. They're
Speaker 1: called Diodora, and I think they are a little they're cushy,
Speaker 1: but they're no Hoka. So if you're a runner, you
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say I would not spend money to buy
Speaker 1: the Stanley, but I look at her and I love her.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you could probably get something very similar
Speaker 3: to a Stanley if you're just looking for a straw
Speaker 3: and a big bottle. There and plenty of options.
Speaker 1: Out there, Yes, one hund. I just didn't know I
Speaker 1: needed this product until I had it, and otherwise I
Speaker 1: would look for an alternative had I known I needed it.
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at. I wouldn't spend money on Stanley,
Speaker 1: but she is beauty and grace.
Speaker 3: Jillum. I know that we've mentioned a few throughout the
Speaker 3: podcast already, so based on what hasn't been talked about yet,
Speaker 3: Ritz Crackers, Ritz Crackers all the way. And here's the thing,
Speaker 3: you know what you like after you have tried it.
Speaker 3: There have been times where I've said, you know what,
Speaker 3: let me just see if i can get away with
Speaker 3: spending a few dollars less on off brand crackers cracker rounds. Nope,
Speaker 3: they're not the same. They're not as buttery, flaky, good,
Speaker 3: crispy crunchy Ritz and Graham Crackers. I can't. I can't
Speaker 3: do anything other than name brand on those on those
Speaker 3: bad boys. However, it depends on what I'm using when
Speaker 3: I make my own pie like crust like Graham Cracker
Speaker 3: crust pies, which isn't often, but we're just coming off
Speaker 3: the holidays and I just did I used I used
Speaker 3: off brand Graham Crackers, yeah, and that tasted fine. But
Speaker 3: if I'm just eating like a snack, I'm gonna prefer
Speaker 3: the name brand. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I made a Oreo cookie crust and I almost
Speaker 1: grabbed the generic, and then I was too scared because
Speaker 1: I was like, what if there's of fat to car
Speaker 1: ratio in the baking? That's different and it says Oreos,
Speaker 1: And then I realized I'm adding butter to it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So yeah, I should have gotten the generic.
Speaker 1: It was delicious, you know.
Speaker 3: Regardless, but it would have been delicious with generic Oreos. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thank you for listening. I hope that you
Speaker 1: are more cognizant of product versus brand when you are
Speaker 1: making your next purchases, knowing that there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: spending more for quality, but know that not everything you
Speaker 1: buy needs to be a of highest quality, and you
Speaker 1: could get the same quality of a much less in
Speaker 1: a much less popular brand. So these are just the
Speaker 1: things to be aware about when you are thinking of
Speaker 1: buying generic versus name brand. And something else to think
Speaker 1: about is leaving us a review a kind review. And
Speaker 1: I will say, after just reading this review, just now,
Speaker 1: I want to Jill, I want to confess to you.
Speaker 1: I did not I did not say it wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't me. But Travis was talking to his class. He
Speaker 1: teaches at a aircraft mechanic school, so think of the
Speaker 1: student population there, and he told he was telling them
Speaker 1: to listen to frugal friends. And then he may or
Speaker 1: may not have said, if you leave a review for
Speaker 1: the show, there may or may not be extra credit.
Speaker 3: Oh my, I don't think you want to say this
Speaker 3: out loud. We do, now, brib.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not tell him to do this.
Speaker 1: I and they're not our target Democrats, but they could be.
Speaker 1: They could be. Travis loves the show and he's an
Speaker 1: aircraft mechanic, so but I think it's for different reasons.
Speaker 1: So I, after saying that story, I'd like to read
Speaker 1: this kind review from Jason. All it says is Jason,
Speaker 1: and Jason says frugal and funny. This podcast is both
Speaker 1: entertaining and informative. Jen and Jill have a great dynamic
Speaker 1: and the tools and tips that they provide have been
Speaker 1: extremely helpful. Thank you Jason.
Speaker 3: Jason, I'm really hope that you do well in your
Speaker 3: class and that it's not based on the teacher making
Speaker 3: you do tasks outside of learning and becoming an airplane mechanic.
Speaker 1: And if you are Jason and you are are a
Speaker 1: true listener.
Speaker 3: Jason, my being ax I.
Speaker 1: Didn't really think anybody. I thought it was just a
Speaker 1: funny joke, you know, I didn't think anybody actually did it.
Speaker 3: And took it to me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to ask Travis if he has a
Speaker 1: student named Jason.
Speaker 3: Now. Wow, Well, thanks for listening. Whether you're here out
Speaker 3: of compulsion or you're here by choice, your own free will,
Speaker 3: we're glad that you're here. And if you are truly
Speaker 3: enjoying this show and it's not because someone told you
Speaker 3: to enjoy it, please do take a minute to leave
Speaker 3: a rating and review so that others who truly want
Speaker 3: to know about frugality and have some fun and be
Speaker 3: entertained by the two of us knowing or not knowing
Speaker 3: about YETI coolers or YETI microphones. And you're still here
Speaker 3: for it, please please leave us in a kind review.
Speaker 3: We would love that. It would really help us a lot.
Speaker 1: See you next time, Jason, be next time. Grugal Friends
Speaker 1: is produced by Eric Sirianna. I forgot about that story.
Speaker 1: Actually I forgot that he did that, and then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'll ever see like a review from
Speaker 1: one of his students. But I never checked the reviews.
Speaker 1: I don't check the ratings and reviews for my mental
Speaker 1: health gold.
Speaker 3: How is no? Yeah, me neither. How does how would he?
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I'm not going to ask more questions,
Speaker 3: not while we're recording. I'm so concerned. Oh my gosh, Well,
Speaker 3: I am remove myself from this. I am not a
Speaker 3: part of students' grades. Hinging on.
Speaker 1: It's not going to change a little extra credit it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: But hey, if you're a fan of the show and
Speaker 1: you are looking for new and unique ways to offer
Speaker 1: extra credit, we do not condone this, but we will
Speaker 1: not get mad.
Speaker 3: Any good review is a good thing for us.
Speaker 1: When we started this show, and I think it may
Speaker 1: be our secret to success, I would take my friend's
Speaker 1: phones and leave a review of the show. I took
Speaker 1: so many phones.
Speaker 3: You can go in the archive of the reviews and
Speaker 3: find the reviews that you think Jen actually wrote.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you there. It was our first twenty reviews.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you no why you could scroll all the
Speaker 1: way back our first twenty reviews in like May May
Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, me and my route, though I thought that you
Speaker 3: couldn't review your own podcast. So me on my own
Speaker 3: phone did not review us until about a year and
Speaker 3: a half into us doing this podcast. And I think
Speaker 3: you did yell at me on a podcast episode, like
Speaker 3: you haven't reviewed us, you haven't left us a review.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't think I could. I thought that
Speaker 3: the algorithm was gonna stop me. You know, I've not
Speaker 3: known a lot in this life, and Jenn has helped
Speaker 3: me to discover most of it. No, No, like you
Speaker 3: Yetti cooler versus Yetni microphone, like that you have a
Speaker 3: roth Ira from your spouse. Yes, yes you can.
Speaker 1: Okay, I did help you with that one. But the
Speaker 1: Yetti cooler and podcast microphone, Yeah, it's hilarious. You need
Speaker 1: to get off here right now and go tell Eric
Speaker 1: you did that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I will, you know what, Like, I'm not even
Speaker 3: gonna edit. I'm not gonna have them edit this because
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I'm not talking good
Speaker 3: about either brand. So like, who's gonna really be upset?
Speaker 3: Like I don't care for Yetni cords.
Speaker 1: And this is why we don't get I mean, we
Speaker 1: kind of have to take what we can get with
Speaker 1: sponsorship dollars because we do stuff like this, like YETI
Speaker 1: is not going to be over here sponsoring us for sure.
Speaker 1: Stanley isn't going to like, we gotta take y'all. We
Speaker 1: gotta take what we can get, and that's Mint. I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever, Go get a Mint phone.