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It's it's Dan patch Trick. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.920 We're an hour in and a lot of headlines here. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.640 It's been a crazy morning, obviously, with Luke Keekley retiring, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.400 Larry Fitzgerald's coming back for a seventeenth season. We got 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.600 some new Hall of famers, including jimbo Coverts in there, 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.920 Harold Carmichael, the former Philadelphia Eagle wide receiver. Who else 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.560 did I miss in that group? Mclovin that the audience 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.679 would probably be aware of. There's some older plants. Yeah, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.840 Donnie Shell, he was with the Steel Curtain, but he 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.000 was sort of that extra defensive back who came in. Oh, um, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.920 George Young, you didn't mention, I don't know the Giants GM. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.640 Yeah he was. He was great. It was great. Yeah. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:57.320 Purcel's obviously Tagley boos haring a lot of attention on Twitter. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.480 Why the negativity with the football writers with Paul Tagle 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.440 Did he put his head in the sand over steroids? 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.800 I mean, not steroids, over head injuries. That's why writers 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.800 don't like them. There's a line in the book okay, 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.880 but how many of those media members cared. I mean 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.800 we can now look back and say, where was the 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.600 NFL on this? I mean the players didn't care, the 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.600 league didn't care, and fans didn't care, and the media 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:31.320 didn't care. Right. I don't think the media knew. I 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.440 don't think anyone knew the extentment. I still don't think 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.200 people understand, well, what did he know and when did 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.560 he know it? I'd be curious about that. Yeah, but 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.920 there's sort of like there's things that are right in 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.079 front of your faith that are so obvious that then 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.239 once it's said, like you know boxers, right, well, we 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.560 all know that that's like head traumas. Yeah, it's not 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.480 like you can say that watching NFL players age and 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.400 all that stuff happening. I mean, it was sort of 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.440 right there. But was it just too obvious? I just 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.120 remember watching as a fan and it didn't dawn on 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.040 me of what kind of head But you know, they 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.040 played the game differently. They actually tackled better. The form 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.320 tackling was better back then. If you go back, how 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.960 many head on collisions did you have back then? How 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.920 many times did you use your helmet back then? In 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.640 the sixties and seventies. You know, one of the first 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.639 times I ever saw something like that was Jack Tatum. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.200 You know, Jack Tatum hit Darryl Stingley, and it was 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.160 so shocking. That was a preseason game. You just didn't 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.520 see players lead with their helmet. They hit you, but 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.840 it felt like they hit you, and there was a 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.240 There was a competition, obviously, but there was a respect 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.880 among offenses and defenses. Now you can watch Dick Buckis, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:53.160 you know, clothesline somebody or drive somebody into the ground. Yes, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.720 you have outliers in there and the way they play 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.720 the game, or Ray Nitzky, but you know, for the 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.880 most part, it like they did more. They were taught 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.920 to form tackle. The reason why you have players who 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:10.000 lead with their body is defensive bats made the highlights. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.520 I truly believe just getting into the highlights, because if 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.680 you didn't, you know, come up with an interception, you 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.920 probably weren't making the highlights unless you were beat for 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:25.400 a touchdown. These defensive players realized, if I blow somebody up, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.360 I'm gonna make the highlights. I can make a name 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.560 for myself. And I think that's where we got off 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.360 the rails with the NFL. Now, I know that there's 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.240 been head trauma and probably players that you don't even 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:42.159 know existed who had head trauma, those who were still 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.200 suffering from it. And even the helmet itself, you know, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.800 trying to improve a look at an old helmet, and 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.719 I'm not talking about the ones that didn't, you know, 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.880 have the face mask on it. But I'm sure Brett 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.880 Farve's helmet. You know, that Riddell helmet doesn't look too 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.720 impressive if you put it all you go, boy, he 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.000 went into battle all of those years with that And 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.200 I think that that But I don't know Paul taglia 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.880 Boo's legacy or have a strong opinion one way or another. Yeah, 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.640 there's one damning quote in the book League at an 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.599 Hour where taglie Booth said that this is a media 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.120 creation and its pack journalism on concussions. Okay, and it 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.719 got and it was a direct prover. I mean, I 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:25.360 mean that that's damning. Yeah, if if they had the 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.240 research and then he said that, well, but yeah, the 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.480 big as who like, what do Goodella and Taglieboo really 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.760 do for the game? Are they are they? Do they 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.200 get the credit for growing in the game or did 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.800 the game go around them. It's hard to tell. I think, well, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.080 I wouldn't put in a commissioner like Paul Taglia Boo 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.320 or even Roger Goodell just because you made the owner's money. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:48.120 Did you make the game better? I like, what what 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.720 did you do? You were overseeing a league. Okay, now 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:57.280 everybody's a billionaire. Okay, you've increased the value. Okay, But 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.599 he's also had mistakes as the commissioner. Like, I don't 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.680 know what the checks and balances are with putting a 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.000 commissioner in. I thought Pete Roselle was a brilliant marketing 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.920 man as as the commissioner of the NFL, and I 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.240 thought David Stern was a brilliant marketing man as the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.919 head of the NBA. But other than that, you know, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.560 if I'm taking inventory with commissioners, I'm like, Okay, he 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:27.640 was good, Like Ford Thrick. I don't know. Larry O'Brien, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.400 I don't know. Yeah, how Bissy tune. How a commissioner 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.680 Taggy Boot's responsibility to be the players? Isn't that the 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.039 players union chief the health of the players and the 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.680 safety in the longevity not the commision commissioner's job is 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.799 the opposite. His job is to make money for the teams, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.760 make money for the networks, and grow the game for 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.599 the fans. But if you have that quote, though, then 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.919 that feels like you're suppressing evidence there. That would be 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.160 the only thing that I would say, you're right. His 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.880 job is to take care of the owners and make 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.560 money and grow to grow the sport. The Players Association 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.400 Gene Upshaw at the time, you know, what did he 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.680 know and what could he do about it? But when 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.240 you say, hey, this is a media creation, it's like steroids. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.800 And we finally found out about steroids, and then we 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:16.000 investigated steroids and then we were told only five percent. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.560 Remember the famous Donald fear Line who headed up the 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:24.080 Players Association five percent or dirty? And all those years 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:25.840 we tried to get him on because I wanted to say, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:30.440 then why don't the ninety five percent be upset with 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:36.320 the five percent? Because now everybody is guilty. Speaking of guilt, Well, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.040 I don't know if he's admitted guilt, but Alex Cora 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.840 got fired the Red Sox manager. Now they said it 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.880 was a mutual parting. Here he's not fighting it. But 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.840 this is here's where I'm I don't know who else 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.280 was involved in the Red Sox cheating. Who might be 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.200 all still on the staff. So what if something comes 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:01.400 out like let Baseball finish their investor t gaish. This 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.120 feels like the Red Sox go, oh my god, we 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.720 got to fire him. Okay, fired him, moving on public pressure. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.160 What if the hitting coach or somebody else was one 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.880 of their spies or current player. I don't know, Wait 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.400 till the investigation is done, and then if you want 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:23.800 to fire Alex Cora, fire Alex core and uh, everybody's 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.000 weighing in on this because now it feels like teams 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.000 are entitled to a World Series in twenty seventeen, the 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.800 Yankees and the Dodgers. Here's CC Tobathia on the cheating 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.280 by the Astros costing his Yankees. It's getting frustrating, man 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.960 to sit here and know that, you know, late in 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.760 my career, I probably could have had a title, you know, 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.440 maybe seventeen or maybe eighteen, but you know, we got cheated, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.040 you know, out of out of you know, a team 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.120 kind of doing something that that's not within the rules 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.800 of the game is okay. I think I think all 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.079 of these players should shut up because if CC Sabathia 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.120 was sitting here in front of me, and he said that. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.240 I would say, you played with Andy Pettit and a 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.440 Rod right, are you giving back your title? Oh you're not? Okay? 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.600 Then shut up you There's no guarantee you would have 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.840 won the World Series. You benefited from cheating as well. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.880 I know the Dodgers and Dodger fans are upset. I 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.920 get it. You want to vacate the title. They're not 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.640 giving you the title? Is that? Is that enough for you? 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.840 If they vacated and I go back to Reggie Bush, 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:37.959 vacated the Heisman, had its stripped, the honor and the trophy. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.320 They didn't give it to Vince Young and he finished second. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:47.080 So when you had Ben Johnson test positive at the 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.320 Soul Olympics three days later, they gave the gold medal 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.520 to Carl Lewis, Okay, if you're gonna do that, then 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.080 why don't you do that with Vince Young. It's it's 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.720 a it's a race, you know. One is that you 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.960 know we're actually racing against each other. This one was 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.760 just a race to see who got the most votes. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:06.640 You want to give it to Vince Young? Give it 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.880 to Vince Young, but I can't sit here and go, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.760 you know what, the Yankees would have won the World 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.280 Series that year or the Dodgers good, I don't know that. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:21.479 But for CC Sabathia to forget that he played with cheaters, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.160 it's pretty hypocritical. Yes, I mean, did the Dodgers want 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:33.360 to vacate that title they won with Matt Oh? Sorry? Wow, wow, 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.520 I just wow? Where did that come from? Nilove? That's 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:45.160 fair thought, you agree, but I'm not hearing anybody say that. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.880 But they didn't win the difference that they couldn't. They 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.240 should have won five titles over the span. That's the 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.800 funny thing that they don't have to vacate anything. Yes, tough, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.959 and can CC say with certainty that they Yankees haven't 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.679 done anything questionable with technology? Can any player know everyone 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.240 else is doing it all time? I wouldn't say anything 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.160 in a situation. I'll tell you who should be saying something. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.920 The Astros players should have a backbone and get in 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.320 front of a camera because your manager just got fired 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:18.040 because of you guys. Nobody's being punished here, but somebody 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.120 should at least have a J. Hinches back for what 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:22.920 he was able to do with that team. And for 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:28.240 that team. He took the bullet and I haven't heard Justin. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:32.160 Verlander talks about everything. He rails on everything, peed you. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.080 You know, he's always got something to say. Bragman, He's 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:41.320 always willing to talk. El touve. Your manager just got fired. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.200 You guys benefited from this? Now did he play a role, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.920 a secondary role? Yes he did, and I would have 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.680 fired him. But these players are going to get off 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:58.080 scott free. Yeah. I have a baseball question. How come 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.640 katches don't do a better job at hiding their signals 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.439 if it's I mean, I feel as part of them 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.319 are a catcher's called ball. I know they flash like 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.720 twelve signs, you see, that's the thing to e But 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.320 obviously they're not doing a good enough job. They're getting 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.680 picked off. All well, if you know the center field 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.120 camera is the one that they could be cheating off of, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.400 then you know it's one thing to have the camera 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.079 there the guy on second base. If there's a guy 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.360 on second base, then you change up your signals. I 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.280 mean we did that in high school where if somebody 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.720 was at second base, you know, three was a fastball 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.480 instead of a one is offense we had it was 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.439 so rudimentary. It would be like one, two was a curve, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.720 a hook, and then three would be a change up 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.120 or whatever. You know we were throwing at the time, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.200 that's all. But you didn't really because you didn't think 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.520 that player was going to be able to telegraph it 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.560 and you know, get the information to the hitter. And 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.040 then you start to realize that you would just lead 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.360 off second you put one finger down or two or three, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.480 and that told the hit or what was coming. But 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.400 now I got technology where there's a camera, there's a monitor, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.280 I can go in and see it in real time. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.120 You're banging a damn drum. Yeah, Paul. If I were 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.480 a catcher, I really think I would like actually announce 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.800 what the pitch was to mess with the hitter. But 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.800 it's something else that's being signaled to the pitcher from 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.680 the dugout. But imagine if as he goes into his strategy, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.040 like here comes the fastball and it just gets in 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.480 the guy's mind, but he's throwing something completely out well 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.760 bull Durham, he did that to Nukeleluch setting up nuke Yeah, yeah, 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.600 get ready for the heater. Thank you can thank me? Yes, 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.760 what do you think they do in football to decode audibles. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.560 You know, there's a huge science going on there. I 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.920 don't know if there's legal or illegal, but I've heard 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.880 they're supercomputers that broke down Peyton Manning's audible count for 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.040 defenses I have. But you also, in college, you'll have 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.480 like four quarterbacks and they're all signaling. In Clemson was 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.720 doing this. Everybody's signaling in stuff, but the audible when 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.920 you change the play, if you know that yellow weasel 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.559 is going to be weak side, if we know that, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.640 then defensives are going to know that. Yeah. But in college, though, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.280 they're spending more time being like, so what does the 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.600 picture of Brad Pitt and George? Is that a run 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.199 or that? I'm not sure. I just saw this. Aaron 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:19.160 Judge deletes a post congratulating Jose Altuve of the MVP 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:26.880 in twenty seventeen. Take that boom. Yeah now they got punished. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.120 Yeah we did, the astro players get punished. Yeah. Aaron 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:36.280 Judge deleted a tweet congratulating l Twova in twenty seventeen. Yeah, man, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:47.160 that's hard time love hurt. Yeah, I'm unliking this post. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:54.880 Oh that hurt. That really hurt. Uh Antonio gatesil John 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.480 is coming up in the final hour of the show. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:01.360 Dan Wetzel Yahoo Sports he was a part this documentary. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.320 It's a three part documentary. He was an executive producer 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.520 of the documseeries Killer Inside the Mind of Aaron Hernandez. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.480 It's out today on Netflix. And uh, there was some 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.520 pretty powerful stuff in here, pretty powerful, so we wanted 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.680 to have him on and uh get his thoughts on 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.440 what he learned about this once he started this docuse series. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.280 Go to the DP show store. We have the yellow 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.800 Weasel T shirts for you packer fans. We do have 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.600 our ill time DK Metcalf shirt that Cheat and I 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.720 worked on all weekend long, and and then we I 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:41.720 just had this realization of God, I hope they win. Yeah, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.000 but then if they they did win, then we wouldn't 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.720 be selling the yellow Weasel shirts there. And Patrick Mahomes, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.640 we wouldn't be selling the Patrick Mahomes T shirts if 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.000 they had lost to Houston. So those T shirts available 0:15:53.280 --> 0:16:00.920 on the DP show app. Yeah. Yeah, Yellow Easel, what 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.720 a what a great audible you go out there? How 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.160 can you keep a straight face if you're yelling green 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:13.000 nineteen Green nineteen Yellow weasel. Yes, hock Matt Ryan never 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.640 gave us the mc lovin on it. I have no 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:19.000 idea he's a buzzkill. May are we seeing Aaron Rodgers 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.200 if they don't win in Miami? We hope so I 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.160 want to We're gonna bring up the Popcos, the weasel 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.040 of pop Goos, the yellow weasel shirt. If the Niners 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.720 take care of business on Sunday, that could be a 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.480 next By the way, we're gonna be billionaires. We've we've 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.480 been discussing my tequila idea and don't get any ideas 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.840 of stealing this. It's literary spirits. That's that's what the 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:50.160 company will be called. Literary Spirits. Tequila, Mockingbird, Yeah, yeah, 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:57.400 Catcher in the Rye, whiskey, Grapes of Wrath, huckleberry gin. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:04.520 Oh okay, all right, we're fully set our bar stop yeah, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.040 and bang the rum slowly, bang the rum slowly. Got 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.560 a whole collection, Thank you, Tom. If people want to 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.120 offer this up, just so you know, if you offer 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.480 it up, I'm going to take it. Yeah, but if 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.000 you're if you're giving it to me and then although 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.440 we will take those suggestions, but those are just something 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.320 that we have and It started with the brilliant idea 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:28.680 of tequila mockingbir. I already got designs on the We're 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:33.200 gonna be billionaires, yes, I like someone said the last 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:43.680 at the Mohitos. I don't know about that one. Yeah, 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.960 all of two cities, the guy off the house, all right, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.720 it's literary spirits. Yeah, it's literary spirit Call of the 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:56.440 Wild Turkey. Yeah, well we part Yeah, we can't get 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.280 that one our first collaboration. Yes, yes, Tom, you got 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.439 another one. I still think. Okay, there's a lot to 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:10.040 work with the Yeah, McLeman, this is your wheelhouse. You 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.400 read literary. I mean I there's so many funny ones 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.360 have been tweeted to us. Uh that uh yeah, I'm 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.320 not good at puns though. That's the problem. This is 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.639 Todd's area. Yeah, we are TV shows or movies or 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.560 it has to be don't know. It's literary spirits. 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Okay, all right, all right, 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.000 once again, this becomes our intellectual property once you send 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.960 it to us. Right, don't say those words right now? Yeah, 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.680 month half, I know you're right. In a few weeks 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:35.720 and oh, huckleberry gin all right, we'll get phone calls 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.320 coming up. Must see TV for you out on Netflix today. 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.600 It's called Killer Inside the Mind of Aaron Hernandez and 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:47.000 Dan Wetzel was executive producer this docu series. Yahoo Sports 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.960 national columnist who joins us, Now, how did you get 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:55.440 involved in this project? Dan Well? I covered Aaron Hernandez 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.760 is uh, you know, story from all the way back 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.440 into Florida, went into Florida. But obviously once he was 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:08.000 suspect of the murder of Odin Lloyd. And during the 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:12.000 long process of you know, multiple trials and all the 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.240 different things, Kevin Armstrong, a journalists of the New York 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.320 Daily News at the time, and I talked about doing 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.639 a book and maybe, you know, we just saw this 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:24.200 as a massive story that went beyond the daily headlines. 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.439 There were so many there was such depth to the 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.199 different angles to it that you know, this could be 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.520 told in a different way. And we partnered up with 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.080 a company called Black fin Out in New York City 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:39.560 and you know McDermott who handled the directing and and 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.080 some of the executive producing and kind of got to 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.280 work on it while in between the first and second trial. 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.320 And at that point obviously we had no idea where 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:53.159 it's headed, uh, you know, an acquittal on the second trial, 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.600 suicide in the prison, all the different things. So it's 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.159 been a long process to tell this story. But we 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.440 were there pretty much from you know, every day, every 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.080 step of the way. So I think we railed the 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:09.440 profidle a depth of a depth to the story that 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.359 you wouldn't get if you're just kind of coming in 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:15.119 after it became this big sensation. How did he hide 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:19.560 his double life from Belichick and his teammates and Robert Kraft. 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:27.360 You know, he had very different worlds if you if 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.320 you look at it. Um, his his friends he was 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:34.760 hanging out with at times. Uh, you know, they weren't Patriots. 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:36.560 He didn't hang out a lot with the Patriots. That's 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.520 in there. Um he wasn't connecting with the guys and 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.119 the team, which was a side of concern. So he 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.280 would be out and with with a friend of his mainland, 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.800 this guy Alexander Bradley, who was a drug and gun 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:53.200 deal are out of New York, out of Connecticut, and 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.200 they just had different different worlds, so nobody knew what 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.919 he was doing. He was, I mean he was. He 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.520 had He had a million different kind of hidden lives 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.600 to himself. He wrestled with his sexuality and trying to 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.880 hide that throughout high school and college. He could If 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:11.280 you listen to the we have a lot of the 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.080 Jailhouse Bone calls in it, and if you listen throughout 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.360 the three parts of the series, you'll hear him talking 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:22.600 incredibly different ways to all different types of people. He 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:26.120 can be as kind and as sweet to his to 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.480 his daughter or his cousin or something like that. He 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.280 can be totally different with somebody else, And so you 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.359