1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Katty and he Armstrong and. 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: That they call me king. Now do you believe it? No, King, 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: I'm such you're king. I can't get a ball room approved. 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: Pretty amazing. 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: I'm a king. 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: If I was a king, would be doing a lot more. 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm doing a lot, but I could be doing a 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: lot more if I was a king. 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 5: Trump in a private setting in the White House that 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: got inadvertently. 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 6: Released, which pretty interesting to watch. He uh, I think 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 6: I retweeted it. It's he just sounds. He sounds a 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 6: lot different than you're used to hearing him talking to 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 6: friends and stuff. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: He's just hanging out. 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, We've had more than one beloved listener point out 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 5: that he has I think in the Art of the 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 5: Dealer in other writings said he intentionally thinks about what 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: he says, and he keeps it as simple as possible. 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 5: So a lot of his hesitation, his repetition and stuff 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 5: is he doesn't want to get into detail, and he's 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: stopping himself from getting into detail, which I find curious 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 5: because I find that one that clip and the one 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 5: where he jokes about mccrone's wife punching him in the face. 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 5: Much better communication than his usual public you know, odd cadence. 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 5: But one thing you gotta say about Trump is he 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 5: does stuff. He doesn't hem and hall about studies and 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: the rest of it. He does stuff. Sometimes they're good. 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: Sometimes for ill see her on who knows. But also, 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 5: the space program has gotten a kick in the pants 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: and is moving forward at top speed. The Artemis' mission 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: blast off yesterday was super cool. I think things are 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: going well other than the somewhat troublesome problem Jack brought 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 5: up earlier. 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, they had a problem with the fan in the bathroom, 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 6: which I guess sucks the defecate out of you when 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 6: you have to go potty. 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 5: No, I think you c push it out in the 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 5: usual way, because that would be that would be very uncomfortable. 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 6: Wow, I was assuming they put a vacuum tube up 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 6: against your No. 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: No, indeed, no, good Lord. 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, the. 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 6: Fan was not working, so there was a chance that 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 6: it was going to be floating around, just floating around 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 6: the cabin, and you don't want that, I assume. 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: Exactly. That's right, Doctor Johnny Depp. Right. 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 5: Uh so, yeah, I hope they repair that for a 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: number of different reasons, but a hell of a thing 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 5: to go. I'm sitting on, however, many billions of dollars 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: worth of technology. You blasted me into space, and I 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 5: got to fix the toilet. 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: And then the s hits the fan exactly exactly. 56 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: Well, that's what you try to avoid. 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 5: So the New York Times interest thingly with quite a 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 5: piece about the race for dominance of the Moon between 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: the United States and China. Good because it's stunning to 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: me that not a single news story I've heard about 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 5: this includes that. 62 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: That is the entire reason we're doing it. 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 6: I mean, you can talk about how it's the first 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: half Asian Jewish woman to ever go into space, and 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 6: you can talk about the various experiments they're going to do, 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 6: which are interesting and fascinating and cool, but that's not 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 6: the main driving force, just. 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Like it wasn't that got us to the Moon in 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: the first place. 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: It was we were worried the Soviet Union was getting 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 6: ahead of us in the space race and they were gonna, 72 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 6: you know, send nuclear. 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Missiles up her hind ends. 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna drop a truth bomb on you right now, 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: like you're the Ayatola race yourself. Virtually all of our 76 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 5: media would be embarrassed by they can't bring themselves to 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: be seen rooting for the United. 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: States of America. 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: If we are in a race that we must win. 80 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: They won't even admit that because then they would have 81 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 5: to like be pro us. 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: It's how sick they are now. 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're right. 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 6: I also think there's a ton of people that have 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: no idea that this is about a space race with China. 86 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: It's not about the medical experiment we're going to try 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: to do. 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: So it's ignorance as well, I would agree. Yeah, so 89 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 5: let's become unignorance, shall we. Both the US and China 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 5: want to build outposts around the Moon's south pole and 91 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 5: hope to tap frozen water, hydrogen, and helium there. Both 92 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 5: countries plan to build nuclear reactors on the Moon to 93 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 5: power lunar bases from which they can launch missions into 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: deep space. And it's the new frontier, and whoever gets 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: their first will have the big say in setting the rules. 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 5: It's incredibly important. 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 6: Both countries want to build nuclear reactors on the Moon. 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: Exactly, and mine it for resources to build exploration and 99 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 5: or I don't know, just off the top of my head, 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: military capabilities there. 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 6: In my lifetime, and I've got one foot in the 102 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: grave in my lifetime, there is going to be a 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 6: military standoff about space between US and China. Yeah, that 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 6: could easily you know, play itself out on the ground. Yeah, 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 6: we're firing you know, rockets at each other in a 106 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 6: you know, South China Sea over the fact that, hey, 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 6: you don't get to land that rocket there where we're 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 6: building our nuclear reactor. 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 4: Oh, or at. 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: Least they will take out some key satellite that you know, 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: powers the SELK phone service for the Eastern Seaboard, and 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: we will retaliate by taking out one of their main satellites, 113 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 5: and then there will be hasty diplomatic talks. 114 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 4: Something like that is practically guaranteed to happen. 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 6: How is it that every star worry about the Moon 116 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 6: doesn't include this. 117 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: It's a space race with China. 118 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: I know, I'd like to flatter ourselves that that's why 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: people enjoy the show. Yeah, the lack of curiosity in 120 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 5: the media is just so amazing to me. Anyway, back 121 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: to the main story. According to Jeric Jared Isaacman, who's 122 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 5: the NASA administrator in terms of the space race, they 123 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 5: may be early in recent history suggests we might be late. 124 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: The US wants to be back on the Moon by 125 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight, two years ahead of China's target. But 126 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 5: as he was pointing out, we're being optimistic and they're 127 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: being conservative in their numbers. And here's where it gets interesting. 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: And look, there are advantages to having a dictatorship. It's 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: unholy and violates all the laws of nature and God, 130 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 5: but it's handy in some ways. China's pursuing its lunar 131 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: ambitions with singular, formidable focus, and they have several advantages 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: over US. Experts say china edge lies in its centralized control, 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: which allows it to plan and fund projects for decades 134 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: at a time, and no like whip sawing back and 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: forth from one administration to another. Its robotic spased missions 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: have already gone where we have not. China is the 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: only nation of land on and retrieved samples from the 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: far side of the Moon, the hemisphere that always faces 139 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: away from Earth. This summer, china seventh robotic mission, Cheng seven, 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: will explore the lunar south pole, how. 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: Much probably exploit the lunar penguins. 142 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 6: Yes, how much energy do they put into making sure 143 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 6: they have racially and sexual orientation diversity among their astronauts? 144 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Ha ha, I know, ha, I know, I know. 145 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: So. 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: They also point out that China's immediate ambition is a 147 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: bit leaner. Chinese astronauts planned to land on a relatively 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 5: accessible near side of the Moon where Neil Armstrong landed 149 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 5: more or less in nineteen sixty nine, Your uncle Jack. 150 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: American astronauts are aiming for the Moon's south pole. They 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 5: do mention that the US has gotten serious, mostly under Trump, 152 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 5: and overhauled the program to have more launches, to test components, 153 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: to gain confidence and lower risks. After returning the astronauts 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: to the Moon, NASA plans to launch missions every six 155 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 5: months and sustain the presence there so. 156 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: We get really, really good at it. 157 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: Here's the key statement from mister Isaacson, the NASA administration administrator. 158 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 5: This time the goal is not flags and footprints. This 159 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 5: time the goal is to stay. 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 6: My uncle Neil Armstrong, father of Lance Armstrong, son of 161 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 6: Louis Armstrong. It's quite the family tree. 162 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: Oh it really is. Yes, don't get your kite caught 163 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: in that family tree. It'll be stuck for good. 164 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 6: So we're gonna We're gonna land there at some point 165 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: and stay, and then China is gonna try to land 166 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 6: in a different. 167 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: Spot, and it's gonna be Chinese Moon Marines to take 168 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 5: over our base. 169 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: God, that's gonna be something to watch unfold. 170 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: Here's some more fact factage for you. Uh. 171 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: China is pursuing similar goals through two programs that will 172 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: likely merge. Crude missions under the military's purview and civilian 173 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: robotic missions. Both rely on technology built by the same 174 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 5: big China communist corporation that shares key technologies between those 175 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 5: two sides. Well, NASA relies more on more heavily on 176 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: private vendors. 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna ask about Elon and SpaceX how 178 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 6: all this fits in. I mean, do they consult with him, 179 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 6: because I mean he wants to land on the Moon 180 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 6: and build a power plant for AI and you know 181 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 6: he's got goals to get to Mars, and does he 182 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 6: work with NASA on I'd kind of like to use 183 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 6: this spot, and we're going to use this spot, and 184 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: I wonder. 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: I bet they are coordinating in various ways, technical ways 186 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: that I would know about, but they actually referenced the 187 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: fact that we are way ahead of China for now 188 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: in rocketry, partly because of SpaceX's amazing. 189 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: Work the Falcon nine rocket. 190 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 5: They highlight in particular where China's kind of playing catchup 191 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: on that technology. The American launcher is a marked improvement 192 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: on the system that first sent astronauts to the Moon. 193 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: It is a powerful and complicated rocket cobbled together from 194 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: components made by NASA and multiple contractors. But they mentioned 195 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: that the rocket's been used many times. On Wednesday, it 196 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: blasted off for its first crude mission and was a 197 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 5: huge success. Went beautifully. 198 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 6: Another advantage that China has is that their population is 199 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 6: going to have nothing but nationalist pride and ego attached 200 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 6: to anything they accomplished, whereas half of our country, unless 201 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 6: our politics change in the next decade or two, half 202 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: of our country is going to be a marching in 203 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 6: the street. 204 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: No colonialist, no colonizing space. 205 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, no settle or colonialism on the Moon, yeah exactly, 206 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: Which is all and has been for a very very 207 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 5: long time, a deliberate program by the Soviets, then the 208 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: Russians and Chinese to sow discord in our society. And 209 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: if you take a minute to look into it. You 210 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: see the fruits of what they're doing. 211 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: It's worked. 212 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 5: They quite wisely went after academia first. That's why colleges 213 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: and schools are so blanking screwed up right now. It's 214 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 5: really frustrating that not only has it worked, but most 215 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 5: Americans they would hear what I just said and think, oh, 216 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: he's kind of paranoid or something. No, they actually set 217 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 5: out what they are going to do. They wrote it 218 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 5: down and signed their names to it. But eh, I 219 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 5: come in every day and try. 220 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,119 Speaker 2: I tried to lift. 221 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 5: The what was the expression of the Bible, the scales 222 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 5: from your eyes? 223 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 4: The Bible? Right, sir? They call me a king. I 224 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: can't even get a ballroom approved. 225 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 6: Ancient James Carville, the ragent Cajun, got Bill Clinton elected, 226 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 6: just dropped a truth bomb of what it's going to 227 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 6: be like if and probably when the Democrats take over Congress. 228 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Good god, Yeah, I think he's right too. Thanks. 229 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: It's an update on these subterranean sword junkies of La 230 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 5: Cool all on the. 231 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 7: Way stay here, according to a Harvard psychologist, And I 232 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 7: bring this up because I agree with that if you 233 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 7: have not accomplished anything by twenty five, or if your 234 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 7: kids have not accomplished anything by twenty five, it's. 235 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 6: Not only not a big deal, it's quite possibly preferable. 236 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 6: I found this fascinating. Stay tuned so, uh, you got 237 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 6: to be old to know who James Carvill is. He 238 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 6: helped Bill Clinton get elected in ninety two. I mean 239 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: that's the highlight of his political career, and that's a 240 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: long time ago. Anyway, I think he understands politics pretty well, 241 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 6: and he just gloated. I guess that when the Dems 242 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: take back the House and have the power of the 243 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: gavel and subpoena and all the stuff that comes with 244 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: being the House majority, they're gonna go he said about Trump, 245 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 6: They're gonna go after you, and then they're going to 246 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 6: go after your stupid jackass kids and their spouses and 247 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 6: all of their financial connections. I was uncharitable, And you 248 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 6: know what that is exactly what's going to happen. We 249 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 6: are going to get so bogged down if the Democrats 250 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 6: take back the House, and I think they probably will 251 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 6: with investigations of Trump and his family because there's a 252 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 6: lot happening and a lot of it doesn't look good. 253 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 254 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 5: The cryptocurrency stuff is going to be incredibly damaging. It's shameless, 255 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 5: it really is. Or if what he's doing a lot 256 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 5: of policies, but it's shameless, or if. 257 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: They can connect any dots on, for instance, that insider 258 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 6: trading around the oil when he made that announcement a 259 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 6: week or so ago, him or anybody in the family 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 6: right right, that's going to be ugly. Oh boy, oh. 261 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: That's going to happen. I bet money on it. 262 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 5: Let's briefly remind ourselves of the subterranean sewer junkie situation 263 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: we discussed last week. 264 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: Michael, if you'd bees a kind. 265 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 8: An up close, exclusive look underground at living conditions too 266 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 8: extreme for words, It's hard to imagine someone in a trash, 267 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 8: human waste going in an overpowering stench. 268 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 9: Alright, I gotta get back. 269 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 8: Just moments earlier, we watched someone climb out of that 270 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 8: storm drain using the sewer as shelter water for. 271 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 10: Her. 272 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 8: Answer is hard to understand. But the area eighty eighth 273 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 8: and South Grand overwhelmed with r v's tents and trash, and. 274 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 5: As part of that report, they talked to a man 275 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 5: on the street who said, come on, these people in 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: here for nine months. 277 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: We've got to do something for them. The city needs 278 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: to move in. 279 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 5: Oh blah blah blah, your typical, you know, compassionate to 280 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: the left. Dish response. 281 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: Well. 282 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: The woman who became widely known as the subterranean swor 283 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: junkie as I characterized her, has been identified as a 284 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: mother of three. Good Lord Jamila Robinson, once known blah 285 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 5: blah blah, is the woman identified and living in an 286 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: underground and campment filled with human waste and toxic materials. 287 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: She has refused help from her. 288 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: Family, including her mother, who's been in contract with contact 289 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: with her. Robinson's mother, Linda, blamed drugs when asked how 290 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: her daughter may have getten herself into this situation. 291 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 6: Wait a second, you should have said you're gonna want 292 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 6: to sit down for this, because that's shocking news. 293 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: Mom went on to say it's the second time she's 294 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: been in the sewer living down there. 295 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: D I'm sad to see. Oh La City. 296 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: Services has offered Jamila help multiple times, but videos shared 297 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 5: by Fox eleven show the forty three year old homeless 298 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: woman walking away. Family's not heard from her since If 299 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: it was the daughter, sister mother of the mayor, where 300 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: would they take them, she told Fox, instead of just 301 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: allowing them to walk away. The family says there's not 302 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 5: enough enforcement and more needs to be done than simply 303 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: asking or offering help. Quote, just take her because she's 304 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 5: not mentally able to think straight for herself. 305 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: The distressed mother said. 306 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, if you had a family member like that, 307 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: and then probably some of you listening do, I'll bet 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 6: it's shocking how difficult it is to get anybody to 309 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: intercede in their life. 310 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and she appears to be probably, although this is 311 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 5: hard to say definitively because I want to be fair. 312 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: She looks like a person who ruined her brain with 313 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 5: drugs and now her brain doesn't work. It's possible she 314 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: turned to drugs because of mental illness, but at any rate, 315 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: she can't possibly help herself, and for whatever reasons, mostly progressives, 316 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: we can't get people like her off the street. 317 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 6: We got millions of people like that. What are we 318 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 6: going to do with them? How's it great cost forever 319 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 6: for the rest of their natural lives. 320 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: Good question. 321 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you haven't accomplished anything by twenty five, don't 322 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 6: sweat it. 323 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: Among other things. 324 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: Coming up Armstrong and Getty, I think. 325 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 6: It's gonna be an interesting segment. A number of interesting 326 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 6: things for you start here. This is horrifying but interesting. 327 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 6: The Islamic Republican of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Gotta 328 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 6: remember that's the actual name of the country. The Islamic 329 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 6: Republic of Iran is on track to exceed the record 330 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 6: number of executions that it has ever carried out, with 331 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 6: six hundred and fifty seven executions in the first three 332 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 6: months of this year. 333 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: Wow. 334 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 6: So they are not slowing down on being an awful 335 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 6: regime because of this attack. 336 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 5: Somebody needs to tell them that's the religion of peace. 337 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 5: That's slaughtering peace by the tens of thousands. 338 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 6: And that's a record number of executions in addition to 339 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 6: machine gunning thirty thousand of their young. 340 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: People during the protests. 341 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: That's a heck of a story. Another completely different story. 342 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 6: This is an old timey clip of Senator Dianne Feinstein 343 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 6: from the early nineties when she was a much younger 344 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 6: but still middle aged. 345 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: Because she's so old, it's. 346 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: Kind of funny referring to the nineties as old timey, 347 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 5: but I get it. 348 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: Early nineties, Yeah, what is that? 349 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: Thirty years ago? 350 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 6: Diane Feinstein So this is a perfect clip to listen 351 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 6: to because of recent news. You got one, you got 352 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 6: the birthright citizenship thing, and you know illegals and what 353 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 6: benefits they get, along with all the fraud that we've 354 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: got going on in California around some of this stuff. 355 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 6: This is Diane Feinstein talking in the early nineties. 356 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: Should you have a system where people can come to 357 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: this country, even if they're well to do, get on 358 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Medicaid and give birth to a baby and then go back. 359 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: The answer is no, and we know that Medicaid laws 360 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: are being used and abused to do just this in 361 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: the state of California. I'd like to see that stopped. 362 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: About thirteen percent of the California prison population, costing close 363 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: to three hundred million dollars a year, are illegal aliens. 364 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I've had judges in Los Angeles and Orange County tell 365 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: me one half of their criminal dockets are illegal aliens. Presently, 366 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: a convicted illegal alien has the option serving their sentence 367 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: in California or being returned to their country of origin. 368 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: I think that option ought to be removed. 369 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: That is why it could be a Democrat back. 370 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 6: In the day, because I was just thinking, if somebody's 371 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: over forty and they say, yeah, I used to be 372 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: a Democrat. 373 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: Don't call that against them. They're saying they just had 374 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: some different points of view. 375 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 6: That Democratic Party does not rule the There are like 376 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 6: fifteen different things there that she said that would keep 377 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 6: you from getting the nomination for president and the Democratic 378 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 6: Party now even using the term illegal or suggesting that 379 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 6: they commit lots of crimes or stealing benefits. 380 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: Wow, it's amazing. 381 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: Is how effective the postmodern takeover of our schools has been. 382 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 5: They've moved the Democratic Party that far. 383 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 384 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so completely different topic. Maybe I can't find it. 385 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 6: I do hate the fact that a lot of websites online, 386 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 6: at least on my phone, that if you click off 387 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: your phone and you go back to them, they reset 388 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 6: for some reason, you know, newspaper. 389 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. I don't know why they do that. 390 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: Why don't they make them that way? Anyway, I found it. 391 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 6: This is on the topic if you haven't have achieved 392 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 6: anything by twenty five, don't worry about it. Uh, how 393 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 6: about if you haven't achieved anything by sixty five. I'm 394 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 6: still hoping. I still got some time. 395 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: Friend. 396 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 6: Yes, a Harvard psychologist said this a couple of years ago. 397 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 6: Interesting thought starter. If you've achieved nothing by twenty five, 398 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 6: you've avoided the most destructive illusion of youth, said this 399 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 6: Harvard psychologist at a lecture. 400 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: At first the room laughed. 401 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 6: She wasn't kidding. It's all about the illusion of early success. 402 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 6: In your early twenties. The brain seeks quick proof of worth, status, attention, 403 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: rapid achievements. 404 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: I think I remember that. 405 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 6: But psychologists warn that chasing recognition too soon can lock 406 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: people into roles or paths that they never consciously chose. 407 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 6: They decide too early and spend years trying to undo it. 408 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 6: Research on career development suggests that people who explore more 409 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: before thirty explore more before thirty often build stronger long 410 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 6: term directions, testing ideas, making the stakes in public, changing course. 411 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 6: At twenty five, it can look like confusion, but by 412 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 6: thirty five it often turns into clarity. This kind of 413 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 6: fits in with your story of going one direction and 414 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 6: then decide you want to be on. 415 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: The radio, and then you do that. 416 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 4: People failing miserably for years. 417 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 6: People who feel behind in their mid twenties frequently gain 418 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 6: something others miss perspective, patience, and a clear sense of 419 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 6: what truly matters to them. That foundation often leads to 420 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 6: better decisions later on. 421 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 4: Wow. 422 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 6: At the end of the lecture, this Harvard psychologist left 423 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 6: the students with one final thought. You're not meant to 424 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 6: have lived life fully and figured it all out at 425 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 6: twenty five. You're meant to discover who you're not well. 426 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: Can you send that to me? I would like to 427 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: distribute that to certain young people who I care about. 428 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 4: A great deal. That's pretty interesting. 429 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Now when they say they haven't accomplished anything at 430 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 5: age twenty five, how how little? 431 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: I mean? Are they potty trained? Tie your shoes? 432 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 2: Can you tie your shoes? 433 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: Uh? Eh? Boy? It is to laugh. 434 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, huh, I get that. I totally get that. Yeah, 435 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 5: it's funny. Having not been plagued with immediate success, I'm 436 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 5: having to think about what that would be like. I 437 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 5: can picture it like in the Hollywood set or among 438 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: sports stars, that who you are, I mean, to your 439 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: core becomes something that's either probably unsustainable or, in the 440 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: case of athletes, absolutely unsustainable. 441 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: I've known a couple. 442 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 6: Of PhDs two two total, but I've known two in 443 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: my life that really wished they hadn't locked themselves into 444 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 6: a particular line of study that was going to dominate 445 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: the rest of their lives, and made that decision at 446 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 6: age you know, twenty. 447 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: One, right, Yeah, speaking to that there. 448 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 5: Well that's that's but there's probably a little sunk cost 449 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 5: fallacy going on there too. 450 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: But you know, I haven't lived their lives, so I 451 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 4: wouldn't know. 452 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. 453 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: I got to believe that pretty much every doctor we 454 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 6: all ever go to made that decision pretty. 455 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: Young, and they're happy with it. 456 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: Assume does everybody understand what the sunk cost fallacy is? 457 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: I don't. 458 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: Clarity is my hallmark, as Michael can tell you, not 459 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 5: yelling at the staff. It's it's the idea that, well, 460 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: I've already spent this much time and effort doing this, 461 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: so I guess I have to keep doing it. No, 462 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 5: don't don't throw good time after bad. Change your course. 463 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: As the great Robert Plant to put it, there's time 464 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: to change the. 465 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: Road you're on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. 466 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 6: So I'm thinking about this because I'm again I got 467 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 6: one foot in the grave. My life is over. I'm 468 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 6: in the winter of my life. So all these all 469 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 6: these decisions have been made for me but my kids, 470 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: who are both going to be high schoolers next year, 471 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 6: I could easily see if they're twenty five in flailing thinking, 472 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 6: oh my god, they're doomed, but I shouldn't based on what. 473 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: I just read. 474 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 5: It's funny I can still feel I can still so 475 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: easily picture my mood at the time. 476 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: Gladys, I'm pretty. 477 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: Sure I was twenty three, had decided I wasn't going 478 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 5: to go to law school, at least not immediately, and 479 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 5: I was trying to figure out what I did want 480 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: to do. 481 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: And I felt like I was at sea and. 482 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: Not not ever to be rescued because I saw some 483 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 5: of my friends were you know, business majors or engineering 484 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: majors or whatever, and they started and they talked about 485 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 5: their starting salary and. 486 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm 487 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: a maroon. 488 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like a piece of trash of being 489 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: blown about by the wind. What shall I do at 490 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: age twenty three? And I tried to communicate that to 491 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 5: my kids. 492 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 6: Well, I guess I got my own version of that, having, 493 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 6: you know, studied hard to take the test to get 494 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: into an MBA because the NBA was the hot degree. 495 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 6: In the eighties, if you want to be successful in 496 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 6: the world, you had to get an MBA. That was 497 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 6: the big deal with Japan on the Rise and all 498 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. And I was in that for 499 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 6: one year of the two and I hated all the 500 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 6: people and I thought I wouldn't. 501 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: I know, every description. 502 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 6: Of what you're going to do for a living sounded 503 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 6: awful to me and so right, And so it's like this, 504 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 6: you're meant to discover who you're not. 505 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: I discovered who I'm not. I'm not a person. 506 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 6: I mean a lot of you do that and love it, 507 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 6: but I would not, and it would have been terrible 508 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 6: for me to continue in that direction. 509 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, interesting. 510 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 6: Discovering who you're not and what you're not interested in 511 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 6: is important. 512 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's liberating in a way. That's very difficult 513 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 5: to explain to kids because you don't want to. As 514 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 5: I've explained before, the world will kick their dreams. 515 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: Bloody soon enough. You don't need to be seen as 516 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: the lead. 517 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 5: You know, in that effort, I finally figure that out. 518 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: So it's tough to you don't want to over explain that, 519 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, figuring out what you're bad at is 520 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: incredibly helpful. 521 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 9: Yes, Michael, I had a friend that went to school 522 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 9: for six years to be an engineer, got his first job, 523 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 9: then realize he hated being an Oh. 524 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 6: God, that would be how oh when that realization dawned 525 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 6: upon you, you'd be so sad. 526 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 4: You know. 527 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 5: One of my favorite examples of this, and I know 528 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: he wouldn't mind me sharing this at all, is my 529 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: good friend and good friend of the show Mike, the 530 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 5: attorney from Chicago who got out of college at University 531 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 5: of Illinois, go a lot with a degree in biological science, 532 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 5: and then he became interested in the legal part of 533 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: biological science and got a law degree and practiced in 534 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: that area. Then decided, you know, the biological science thing 535 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 5: isn't nearly as interesting. It's just human beings. And so 536 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: he got into like the other part of law, and 537 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 5: it's now very happy and successful in the rest of it. 538 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 5: And I mean that those transitions encompass encompassed his twentyies 539 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: and I think maybe early forties. 540 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, just hang in there. Figured out. 541 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, the difficulty of explaining to kids and then raising 542 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 6: kids and watching them. 543 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: I suppose when my. 544 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 6: Kids get older is how many people do you know 545 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 6: that got to the point they're at now, like on 546 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 6: purpose or I mean, with a plan that you could 547 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 6: have have designed. It's just it's just so many random 548 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 6: things that happened. 549 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 5: I brought this up to a bunch of golf buddies 550 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 5: of mine the other day and it got a pretty 551 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 5: good laugh. I said, how many of us, or anybody 552 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 5: you know, is doing a job you knew existed. 553 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: When you were a teenager. Very few of us? 554 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 6: Now, I know, there are exceptions, Like I've got a 555 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 6: niece who's in a you know, a cowboy she is. 556 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 6: She wants to be a doctor. She's always wanted to 557 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 6: be a doctor. She finished an undergraduate. Now she's in 558 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 6: medical school and probably work out fine for And you know, 559 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 6: I've known plenty of people that wanted to be a 560 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 6: cop and they they become a coup and they're cup 561 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: for decades. 562 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: So it happens. But most of the time, oh. 563 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh of course, yeah. I just think as a kid, 564 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 5: you presume that it's nearly one hundred percent. 565 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: You declare. 566 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 5: If some adults ask you what you want to do 567 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: when you grow up, you tell them, and that's what 568 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 5: you become. 569 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: Well sometimes, but. 570 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: An Instagram influencer, because that's what everybody wants to be. 571 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh, sit down, saun or daughter. 572 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: We need to talk. 573 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 6: One more thing on this before we take a break. 574 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 6: So this lecture was in the twenty twenty one, you know, 575 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 6: modern era. Would you have given that lecture? I mean, 576 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: because like when my parents started out, they got married 577 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 6: in the early twenties and had my mom had me 578 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: at twenty two, and you know, you accomplished a lot 579 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: of what you were going to accomplish very early. 580 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Is it just the timeline different. 581 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: I think it's changed, but I think the principal was 582 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: still there. I mean I think of my dad and 583 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: his life and career and being in the military and 584 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: getting out and trying one thing then another and yeah 585 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 5: it's fine. 586 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too late for me to change course. 587 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 5: Well, I mean he realized that he and my mom 588 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 5: had given birth to a juvenile delinquent, so he had to, 589 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 5: you know, adjust his sales and his lower his expectations. 590 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 5: I'll be cleaning up messes for the next eighteen years. 591 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: Apparently we'll finish strong next our gender bending madness poster 592 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 5: child of the day, week, month, year, and perhaps ever 593 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 5: would be quote unquote Gabrielle Drone looking at his picture 594 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 5: right now, spent nine months simulating a pregnancy, including this 595 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: one goes out to you, Katie Stick breathed deeply. 596 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe maybe take off your headphones. 597 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: A chance to practice your lama's. 598 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 5: Breathing, including feigned morning sickness and the wearing of a 599 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: fake belly with the attention intention of play acting the 600 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 5: loss of an imaginary baby. 601 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: Oh boy. 602 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: He also joined a support group for grieving mothers who 603 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: had lost children, seeking validation and support for his planned 604 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: quote unquote stillbirth. Oh even went so far as to 605 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 5: rent a machine that simulated contractions and bought a plastic baby, 606 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 5: which he inserted into his rectum. Okay, and then quote 607 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 5: unquote gave birth to afterwards. 608 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: Oh no, afterwards. 609 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 5: Excuse me, he took two weeks off from work, I 610 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 5: would quote unquote grieve. 611 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 6: Well, I'd take two weeks off for something. But I know, 612 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 6: okay that the first part of the story. We've kind 613 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 6: of heard those sorts of things before. The i'ming a 614 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 6: toy baby up you was a new angle. 615 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: It gets worse in a different way. Women who objected 616 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 5: to his presence in the group, who had actually lost 617 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 5: children were kicked out. Oh God, so that this man 618 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 5: could feel supported in his game of let's pretend they're 619 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 5: very real. Grief was considered less important than this man's 620 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 5: sexual fantasies, and it was the progressives in the group 621 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: that made the ladies leave because they were being transphobic. 622 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: When is the next rocket to the moon? I'm getting 623 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: on it and I'm a. 624 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: Lot of Yeah. 625 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 5: He convinced his doctors to provide him with drugs to 626 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 5: induce lactation. He asked members of an online breastfeeding group 627 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: if he'd join. He'd joined if any of them would 628 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 5: be willing to let him breastfeed their babies. 629 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 10: Oh no, really, that's how you end the show, right, 630 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 10: Shoe's memorable note this it's your fault. Oh my gosh, 631 00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 10: bring back mental institutions. 632 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 6: To I'll save my final thought. Here's your host for 633 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 6: the final thoughts, Joe Getty. 634 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: I think we're all having similar final thoughts, but let's 635 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 5: give them officially from everybody on the crew. 636 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: Michaelangelo lead the way. 637 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 9: WI. 638 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 639 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 9: This is for any young person that's listening to this show. 640 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 9: Get internships, even if they're free internships. Find out what 641 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 9: you don't like. 642 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: That's a good one, Michael. 643 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, just get to exposed to things you normally wouldn't 644 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 5: have seen and heard and learned. Katie Green are esteemed newswoman. 645 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 10: Has a final thought, Katie, I can't say mine because 646 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 10: I'll get get fired or kicked off with the air 647 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 10: by the FCC. 648 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 4: Yes, we'd all like to do that, okay, Jack. Final thought? 649 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: Do we have a size on this toy baby? Most? 650 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: Oh boy? 651 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 5: Most toy babies are pretty big. He's obsessed, folks, Oh 652 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: oh boy. 653 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: Final thought will be. 654 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: We're gonna do a pretty interesting Armstrong and Getty One 655 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 5: More Thing podcast right after the live presentation is over. 656 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: If you subscribe to our podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand, 657 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 5: One More Thing downloads automatically and sometimes there are swears, 658 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: So maybe Katie can actually say what she would like. 659 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: To do to this woman. 660 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 661 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 662 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 5: So many people, thanks so a little time. Good Armstrong 663 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: in giddy dot com for the hotlinks. We've got all 664 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 5: sorts of interesting videos for you and links to the 665 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 5: stories we refer to. 666 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: If you want to read more. 667 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 5: Check it out, pick up some ang swag, nice t 668 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 5: shirt helps keep everybody on the staff during these challenging times. 669 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: Your favorite A and G fan would enjoy one. 670 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: He had to do that story again beginning of the 671 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: show tomorrow. Everybody needs to hear that. 672 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 4: Wisers. I'm just shaking my head. 673 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and getty. 674 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 5: To miss mission blast off yesterday. It was super cool. 675 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: Other than the troublesome problem Jack brought up earlier the. 676 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 6: Fan in the bathroom, which I guess sucks the defecate 677 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 6: out of you when you have to go potting. 678 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 5: No, I think you you push it out in the 679 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 5: hutual way. 680 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 4: That would be. That would be very uncomfortable. 681 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 6: Wow, I was assuming they put a vacuum tube up 682 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 6: against your No.