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Speaker 1: have to start and begin in London, where yes, more

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Speaker 1: towns and commands are carrying out a full scale investigation

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Speaker 1: As part of long established and well rehearsed plans, Parliament

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Speaker 1: Scotland's Yard, that the situation is under control. This was

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Speaker 1: a vehicle born attack, and many people call that quite

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Speaker 1: an unsophisticated attack because there's very little could do to

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Speaker 1: stop it. No matter how much security you have, if

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Speaker 1: someone is inspired and has their hands on the vehicle,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's very women you've been doing. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what he did. And we've seen it before, in least

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Speaker 1: we showed him for a limb. We've seen it twice

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Speaker 1: here in the UK, now, um, And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 1: I just had been calling for these kinds of attacks.

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Speaker 1: As they're on the back foot in Iraq and Sterea,

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Speaker 1: they've been calling on their followers with propaganda to lash

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Speaker 1: out the launch these sort of attacks. And let's not

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Speaker 1: forget that today is the day that I believe it's

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Speaker 1: sixty eight foreign ministers and meeting in d C to

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Speaker 1: discuss the anti Isis coalition. And it is also one

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Speaker 1: year to the day that thirty two people were killed

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Speaker 1: and roogle attacks in Brussels, both at the subway on

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Speaker 1: the airport. So we don't want to expect it. We

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Speaker 1: do not yet have an identity to this man for

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Speaker 1: this terrorists, but there are a number of indications pointing

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Speaker 1: towards this um. So there was a picture that was

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Speaker 1: published in the Daily Mail and uh, I have a

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Speaker 1: name in front of me. And I'm sure you've heard

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Speaker 1: of this controversially, Mom, this guy at a jum chowder

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Speaker 1: ray have you not. I've interviewed and Um chowdery. He's

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Speaker 1: he's off our streets, thank goodness. He was certainly inspiring

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Speaker 1: many many evil people. And yes, the name that you

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Speaker 1: refer to as well, which has been published, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure whether we can we can confirm it yet, but

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Speaker 1: he was a well known part of the Jie Hardy network.

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Speaker 1: Here he was often Well that's my question. I actually

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Speaker 1: I actually have a Twitter picture of him. I'm not

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Speaker 1: named of me either. Could I just say his first

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Speaker 1: new name is a Boo? We're talking about the same person.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, there is a picture of a jum

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Speaker 1: Chowder Ray and a Boo without giving his last name,

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Speaker 1: uh together and uh it looked like in the Daily

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Speaker 1: Mail picture there could very well be him. Did you

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Speaker 1: see the Daily Mail picture? I haven't seen it yet,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean I've I've heard I would have

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Speaker 1: gather it does fit. This is the same. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: again this guy he was openly preaching, you know, these

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Speaker 1: sort of things that he recently in the UK had

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Speaker 1: a crackdown on on the ability to talk to openly

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Speaker 1: about and spread his hatred um. But for a while

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Speaker 1: it was a very gray area and unfortunately a lot

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Speaker 1: of them were able to spout their their hatred. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I've had andem Chowderray on my television

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Speaker 1: program once, even calling him an evil, sick, twisted son

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Speaker 1: kind of went viral, not only in the US but

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Speaker 1: also in the UK. Can you talk at all, Benjamin.

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Speaker 1: I have discussed a great length the migrant problem, the

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Speaker 1: refugee problem, not only in Great Britain, but France, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a nice and and and Belgium and Germany

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Speaker 1: and the crimes to stistics that have been going through

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Speaker 1: the roof it's It parallels greatly with a debate in

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that I think people are

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Speaker 1: the issue of no go zone, for example, in in France.

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Speaker 1: But they do exist. I know they exist, and I've

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Speaker 1: confirmed it with many people and other parts of Europe.

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Speaker 1: But also the fact that Great Britain itself has eighty

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Speaker 1: three separatory of courts in the country true or false.

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Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't know the number myself. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do know that they exist here. Uh and absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: You know, many people, including those Brussel bombers from Yogo

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Speaker 1: today they came back in with the micros lords and

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Speaker 1: indeed I was in Brussels soon after that and I

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Speaker 1: was in Molbek, the area of many of them came from, UH,

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Speaker 1: and it's considered the g hardy hotbed UH you know

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Speaker 1: of Europe, or one of them. And it's a big

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Speaker 1: part of multicultural is it. For a long time, UM government,

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Speaker 1: welcome to our shots. You don't to integrate. If that,

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Speaker 1: we want you to keep your own identity, you want

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Speaker 1: you to keep your religion. It's so important. Well what

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Speaker 1: that did? It created huge divisions in effectively said come

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Speaker 1: to our country, but don't learn the manage, don't embrace.

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Speaker 1: And it has created areas, UM, you know where many

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Speaker 1: of these people come. I wonder if if with every

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Speaker 1: new incident, if people don't become less, if people don't

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Speaker 1: become aware of the great cultural divide. Look, great Britain

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Speaker 1: in the United States are great friends. We have an

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Speaker 1: incredible history of friendship and our relationship has been tremendous.

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Speaker 1: And it's sad as an American to see this happening

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Speaker 1: to a friend of ours. It really is. It breaks

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Speaker 1: my heart. UH. In New York, where I'm from, I've

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Speaker 1: experienced it. On nine eleven, we've seen it happen in Boston.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it happen in Chattanooga. We've seen it happen

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Speaker 1: in Porthood. We've seen it happen in in Orlando, at

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Speaker 1: the Pulse nightclub in San Bernardino. You know, at some

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Speaker 1: point we've got to ask the question, is this ash

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Speaker 1: of cultures? If you grow up under Sharia law, and

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Speaker 1: men they grow up into that culture think they have

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Speaker 1: the right to tell women how to dress, tell women

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Speaker 1: whether they can travel, tell women they can't drive a car.

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Speaker 1: When gaye and lesbians have thrown off the tops of rules,

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Speaker 1: and Christians and Jews are persecuted. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: knowing whether or not that person is willing to take

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Speaker 1: on the values of the country that they are honored

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Speaker 1: to be allowed into is a legitimate question. Is that

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Speaker 1: debate now going to get louder? You think in Great Britain? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I think I debated and going

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Speaker 1: off for some time. You just look at the breakfit

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Speaker 1: results that was a part driven by a desire to

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Speaker 1: be going to our should I think there's very much

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Speaker 1: ASENTI okay, that people want to take back control of that.

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Speaker 1: They want to maintain an identity which many people did

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Speaker 1: feel was getting dilusion, if you will, and you know, so,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing that here, we are thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing it potentially also in the election coming up

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Speaker 1: in France. The Dutch elections didn't go builders, didn't we

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Speaker 1: never we are seen across your it's a direct You've

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Speaker 1: got to be able to know who's coming into your

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Speaker 1: country for safety. All right, Benjamin Hall, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: my friend. I know there's been a tough day. I

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Speaker 1: thought some prayers to our friends in Great Britain. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Uh let me play some of those devon Nunia's issue,

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Speaker 1: because we're going to get back to the issue of

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Speaker 1: among our many guests. Um, but let me play some

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Speaker 1: of what Nunia is saying. The Trump team conversations, including

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Speaker 1: the President elect caught in serve valance. Trump was right,

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media wrong again. Listen. I recently confirmed and

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Speaker 1: on numerous occasions, the intelligence community incidentally collected information about

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Speaker 1: U s citizens involved in the Trump transition, details about

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Speaker 1: US persons associated with the incoming administration, details with little

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Speaker 1: or no apparent foreign intelligence value, were widely disseminated in

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Speaker 1: intelligence community reporting. Third, I have confirmed that addition, names

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was

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Speaker 1: it looks like incidental collection. We don't know exactly how

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Speaker 1: that was picked up, um, but we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: It appears most of this occurred from what I've seen

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Speaker 1: during the transition, that's correct. I have seen intelligence reports

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Speaker 1: surveillor if it wasn't relieved to Russia or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: are you saying that it was political surveillance of political

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think some of it seems to be inappropriate, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: We were right. Trump was right, Solomon and Carter were right,

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the media wrong. One of our

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Speaker 1: top stories today the attack, the terrorist attack in Great Britain.

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Speaker 1: Will have more about this at the top of the

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Speaker 1: next hour. We're also monitoring what is going on in

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Speaker 1: terms of the healthcare vote New king Rich. We have

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Speaker 1: also Freedom Caucus members all joining us, but we'll go

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Speaker 1: back to London at the top of the hour. You

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Speaker 1: want to stay with us, see top stories. Terror strikes again,

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Speaker 1: this time in London. We will go to London when

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Speaker 1: we get back. Nigel Farage among our many guests. Also

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Speaker 1: Raheem Casam Lose, the editor of Bright Bart London. Philip

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Speaker 1: Hainey joins us. Now we've got New Kingbridge waying into

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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus members or other two stories is Devin Nunez,

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Speaker 1: the House Intelligence Committee chairman, confirms surveillance of Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and Trump Towers. Donald Trump was right, and we'll update

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Speaker 1: you with Freedom Caucus members on the healthcare bill. They

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Speaker 1: are against it. Some twenty five to more to thirty five.

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Speaker 1: That's straight ahead as we continue from Chicago today, all right,

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Speaker 1: gladulately with us our to Sean Hannity Show, told free

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Speaker 1: telephone number. You want to be a part of the

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Speaker 1: program eight nine f one Seawn. At the top of

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Speaker 1: the next hour, former Speaker of the House new King

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Speaker 1: Ridge will join us and we will check in with

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Speaker 1: members of the Freedom Caucus. Three big stories were following today,

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Speaker 1: the health care vote, which of course expected to come tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: but the Freedom Caucus says they are not on board

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Speaker 1: and they have the votes to block it, and in

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Speaker 1: ask Jim Jordan and Dave brad A out that coming up.

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Speaker 1: Also huge huge news today, surveillance of Trump Tower has

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Speaker 1: in fact been confirmed. Devin Nuniez, who is the Chairman

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Speaker 1: of the House Intelligence Committee, confirming that earlier today. He

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Speaker 1: also added one thing, I'm gonna play it now before

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Speaker 1: ruled out. Listen to this. The President Obama ordered any

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Speaker 1: kind of surveillance of the president we don't know. We

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Speaker 1: don't know who sent the taskings, uh, if the taskings

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Speaker 1: were changed into what went into these intelligence reports. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna try to find that out possibility that senior

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Speaker 1: Obima administration officials form Paul, No, we cannot wow. This

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Speaker 1: is getting deeper and more complicated by the minute, and

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Speaker 1: we'll have a lot more on that throughout the program today.

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Speaker 1: But the saddest story of the day, it is not

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Speaker 1: a surprise, yet another terrorist attack, this time in London.

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Speaker 1: And here are some of the sounds from throughout the

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Speaker 1: day to day. Colin. I'm joined now by Stephen Volk,

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Speaker 1: who was on Westminster Bridge at the time this incident happened. Steve,

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Speaker 1: take us through what you saw. Well, it's fairly busy

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Speaker 1: and I was just walking across the bridge when suddenly

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Speaker 1: started screaming, um. And I saw a trainer in the road,

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Speaker 1: and first of all, a trainer as in a shoe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I thought somebody must have been hit by a car.

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Speaker 1: And then I saw a body on the other side

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Speaker 1: And then when I looked over the side of the bridge.

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Speaker 1: There was another body lying in the water. Now any

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Speaker 1: indication as to what had caused those people to be injured?

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Speaker 1: I mean, had you seen a car come through or

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Speaker 1: a like? I didn't see anything. The first thing I

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Speaker 1: was aware of was just people starting to screen and

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Speaker 1: peop came off the bus looking very shops um, and

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Speaker 1: then everybody there was a lot of confusion and people

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Speaker 1: started dealing with with the casualties. And at that point

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Speaker 1: I just tried to stop people coming onto the bridge

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Speaker 1: because still a lot of people were coming on. How

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Speaker 1: how did you do that? How did you try and

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Speaker 1: stop people from coming under bridge? Just trying to wave

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Speaker 1: them back? And you know, and I think people could

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Speaker 1: tell because people were screaming that something, something bad was happening.

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Speaker 1: Forgive me just to go back. Did you say a

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Speaker 1: body in the water? Did you use? Yes? So so

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Speaker 1: a body someone had fallen off the bridge. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: but it seemed that way, and they were lying face

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Speaker 1: down in the water, okay. And then what happened after that?

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Speaker 1: After that there was a kind of a pause and

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Speaker 1: it seemed very confused for quite a long time, and

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Speaker 1: then medic arrived on a bike and then ambulances arrived

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Speaker 1: fairly quick there after that, and then the police started

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Speaker 1: pouring onto the bridge, and at that point we walked,

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Speaker 1: we walked people off the bridge and they put a

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Speaker 1: tape around it. And did you hear noises that sounded

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Speaker 1: like gunshots? I didn't know. I heard afterwards. I've heard

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Speaker 1: people say that I didn't hear that. I just heard

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Speaker 1: the scream. Describe what you saw happened. It's just walking

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Speaker 1: up to the station and there was a loud bang

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Speaker 1: and the guy someone crashed a cart and aside took

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Speaker 1: some pedestrians out and they were just laying there. And

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Speaker 1: then the whole crowd just surged around the corner just

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Speaker 1: by the gates, just obviously a big barn and a

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Speaker 1: guy came past my right shoulder with a big knife.

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Speaker 1: I just started plunging it into the policeman. I just

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything. I just can't believe. There was

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Speaker 1: a body, literally ten ten bodies all into this line,

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Speaker 1: the different places along but been shot. Yeah, terrifying. It

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Speaker 1: was horrendous, absolutely, Arend and I'm not sure a body

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the road, and then there

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Speaker 1: was another body further up. And then when I looked

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Speaker 1: over the side of the bridge. There was another body

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Speaker 1: lying in the water. She saw people for lying come

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Speaker 1: on Florida after injured ten people. Maybe. I walked out

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Speaker 1: to go to the university and as some of my

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Speaker 1: age got to me and says there's a minute terry

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Speaker 1: stack on the bridge. I ran over and I walked

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Speaker 1: into the bridge. Said once you't know what happens, And

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Speaker 1: of course the scenes are pretty terrible. I saw three

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Speaker 1: to four people corruptly who had been hit by a car.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see anything. The first thing I was aware

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Speaker 1: of was just people are starting to screen and people

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Speaker 1: came off the glus looking very shots and then everybody

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of confusion and people started dealing

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Speaker 1: with with the casualties terror at the UK Parliament Westminster

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Speaker 1: Bridge who heard some of the sites and sounds and

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Speaker 1: eye witnesses there. We now have confirmed four dead. Four

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Speaker 1: people dead, including the cop as the perpetrator of this

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Speaker 1: crime used this seven to eight inch nine You heard

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Speaker 1: the one eye witness watching it being pounded into the

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Speaker 1: police officer. Why some of these officers and in London

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Speaker 1: are not armed is beyond any understanding that I possibly

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Speaker 1: can have in my life. The Prime Minister of Great

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Speaker 1: Britain was only forty yards from the attack uh in

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Speaker 1: the Parliament and ended up getting out safely. Others now

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Speaker 1: they're still on lockdown as I understand it. This, by

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Speaker 1: the way, probably not a coincidence. The anniversary of the

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Speaker 1: Brussels massacre. We know that ISIS has been celebrating ever

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Speaker 1: since the attack. Blood for blood uh it. Drudge had

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Speaker 1: an interesting flashback today and that is that you're going

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Speaker 1: to see the black flag of Sharia over Windsor Castle.

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Speaker 1: And apparently now we have a new development. Police are

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Speaker 1: scrambling to the South London Tube or the train system

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Speaker 1: if you will, that they have there. Just to give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of a timeline local time, which

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Speaker 1: is uh you know, London time to forty Eastern to

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Speaker 1: forty London time. Police were called to Westminster Bridge reports

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Speaker 1: that a car had been owing down people at least

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Speaker 1: twenty plus people injured, many severely. Now and then reports

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Speaker 1: emerging and what sounded like a shooting that was not confirmed,

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Speaker 1: and then as things went on it looked they initially

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Speaker 1: thought it was a firearms incident and it turned out

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Speaker 1: to be very different. A majority a major security alert

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Speaker 1: for the police of Westminster and a man carrying a

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Speaker 1: knife charged through the gates in the front yard of

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Speaker 1: the Parliamentary compound. Just believe the same guy that mowed

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Speaker 1: down those people in the car and Westminster Bridge, which

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Speaker 1: is right next to an adjacent to the UK Parliament. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: joining us now with a full coverage of this, We're

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Speaker 1: going back to London and we really appreciate everyone taking

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Speaker 1: time out of a very busy day. Rahim Kasam as

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Speaker 1: the editor of bright Bart London. Nigel Paraje UK Independence

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Speaker 1: Party member of the European Parliament for Southeast of England

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Speaker 1: and he was of course the campaign leader for the

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Speaker 1: Brexit movement. Phil Haney a founding member of our Department

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Speaker 1: of Homeland Security. All are of the book see something

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Speaker 1: and say nothing, And again I say that, Nigel and Rahim,

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Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers go out to you and the

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Speaker 1: people of Great Britain. Rahim, what are you hearing on

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Speaker 1: your end? I've seen a name a number of times

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Speaker 1: now I'm seeing conflicting reports about that name. What do

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Speaker 1: you know? Well, thanks Sean for the kind wishes and

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Speaker 1: and you know, of course all of our thoughts with

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Speaker 1: the people who have been affected, and indeed the courageousness

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Speaker 1: of the police, how quickly they were deployed and now

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Speaker 1: quickly they secured the area after this terrorist incident this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: as you say to forty, this afternoon, a man crashed

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Speaker 1: the car into the into the railings outside the House

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Speaker 1: of Parliament, having mowed down a couple of dozen people.

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Speaker 1: It looks like outside on the Westminster Bridge. What we're

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Speaker 1: hearing now is speculation, of course over different tube stations,

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Speaker 1: the underground system in the United Kingdom, of course very famous,

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Speaker 1: different tubes stations being closed, being scoured for potential devices

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Speaker 1: or potential people that they might be looking for in

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Speaker 1: connection with this. And you're correct to say that the

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Speaker 1: left wing Channel four broadcasting agency in the United Kingdom

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Speaker 1: were quick to put out a name of a person

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Speaker 1: who they claimed was responsible for this attack earlier on today.

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Speaker 1: That fueled a lot of speculation out there and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people ended up reporting this person's name. However,

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Speaker 1: we now know from his solicitor and his brother that

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Speaker 1: this person who was charged with terrorism a couple of

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Speaker 1: years he was in jail, right in prison. He remains

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Speaker 1: in prison, according to his solicitor and his brother. So

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Speaker 1: It just goes to show that actually, when you hear

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Speaker 1: about these people jumping on these attacks, when you hear

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Speaker 1: about the whole fake news saga, this has come from

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Speaker 1: a left wing news outlet in the UK and then

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Speaker 1: now having to throw it back, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that they've really embarrassed themselves over this, especially at the

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Speaker 1: time where people are so concerned with the safety. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, my normal instincts as to ignore,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I've purpose didn't mention the guy's name,

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Speaker 1: only a first name, which is actually very common. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, and I was asking the question of somebody,

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Speaker 1: do you think it could be that person? Are you

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Speaker 1: hearing it to that person? Uh? You know, Phil Haney,

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Speaker 1: you are a founding member of the dss DHS. You

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Speaker 1: had a list of names. You believe that when you

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Speaker 1: were when Barack Obama became president, you were forced to

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Speaker 1: get rid of all of those names. None of this,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure what happened today surprises you in any way,

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Speaker 1: does it. No? In fact, I went right back to

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Speaker 1: my active duty mode. I scoured through the resources that

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Speaker 1: were available and did an analysis of the photographs that

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Speaker 1: were put online by the Guardian in my immediate conclusions.

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Speaker 1: We call them indicators. It's not necessarily proven derogatory information. However,

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Speaker 1: they are indicators. And what I saw from my first

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Speaker 1: level analysis of the suspect when the pictures posted in

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Speaker 1: the Guardian, is that he was likely a Salafi Muslim

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Speaker 1: because of his facial his beard, that he was probably

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Speaker 1: not a new immigrant. And Philip, can I just confirm,

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Speaker 1: I want to interrupt. I want to hear all this.

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Speaker 1: You mean the picture in the I saw the same

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Speaker 1: picture in the Guardian, so you can make an analysis

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Speaker 1: based on that picture. So go explain that to people,

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Speaker 1: and if they want to look at the daily Mail

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Speaker 1: of the Guardian, they can. The first thing I looked

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Speaker 1: at is the big picture indicators, and I never make

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Speaker 1: an assumption or a decision on only one picture. There

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Speaker 1: were two pictures that were shown immediately after the man

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Speaker 1: was down, and then post inspection they did a strip

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Speaker 1: search on him, and I made sure that every all

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Speaker 1: the people that were in the two pictures were the

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Speaker 1: same and other physical indicators, and then I looked at

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Speaker 1: the individual himself and by the indicators. First of all,

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Speaker 1: his spacial hair. Solo Fi Muslims often shaved the the

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Speaker 1: mustache area of their beard. Also, I noticed that he

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Speaker 1: was probably not a new immigrant just by his body,

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Speaker 1: the way his body looked. And the third is that

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Speaker 1: it was probably from the Indian subcontinent, just because of

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Speaker 1: other physical indicators. Again, they're indicators, not proven derogatory information.

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Speaker 1: But if I was an active duty law enforcement officer

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Speaker 1: working on that case, you know, on the ground, as

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Speaker 1: a subject matter expert in counter terrorism, those would be

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Speaker 1: my first indicators of the likely nature of the suspect

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Speaker 1: involved in the attack. No, I really I understand exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. This is so important that you're able

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Speaker 1: to do this. I mean, I've always admired your work.

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Speaker 1: Nigel Forage, let me ask you first, Well, hang out,

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Speaker 1: we got to take a break here. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me take this break and we'll get to Nigel Farage,

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Speaker 1: good friend of the program. And Nigel, I guess you

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Speaker 1: got on late. Our thoughts and prayers go to you

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Speaker 1: and all our friends in Great Britain and we'll get

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Speaker 1: your take on this. We're gonna do the with Phil Hainey,

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Speaker 1: Philippini and Raheem Kassam and Nigel Faras for the full hour.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll have New king Rich and we'll also have

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Speaker 1: two members of the Freedom Caucus. Two other stories were

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Speaker 1: following beyond the London terror attack today, and that is

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Speaker 1: Devin Nunia is confirming yes, there was surveillance on Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump at least in November, December and January. Trump was right,

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity was right, Right, Bart was right, Sarah Carter,

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Speaker 1: John Solomon were right, and the rest of the media

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Speaker 1: was wrong. And then of course we are following and

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Speaker 1: monitoring the vote that will take place tomorrow and repealing

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Speaker 1: and replacing Obamacare. And we have two Freedom Caucus members

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Speaker 1: that will join us, Jim Jordan's and Dave Bratt. All right,

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Speaker 1: as we roll along Sean Hannity Show, we are in

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Speaker 1: Chicago today. Three big stories the terror attack at the

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Speaker 1: UK Parliament and Westminster Bridge. That's our top story. Devin

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Speaker 1: Nunia is the House Intelligence Committee chairman confirming yes, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump surveillance of Trump Tower and the President in November,

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Speaker 1: December and January. It means all the media wrong and

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Speaker 1: the lead up to the health care of vote tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And we continue with Philip Peeney, Rahim Kassan and Nigel

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Speaker 1: Faragees are now joining us. Nigel our thoughts and prayers

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Speaker 1: are with our friends and in Great Britain. You know that,

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Speaker 1: my friend, Yes, no, thank you. It's been a horrible day.

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Speaker 1: It has been ten years since we have a terrorist

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Speaker 1: attack in London. We all knew that it was coming,

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Speaker 1: whilst as yet the correct identity of the perpetrator has

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Speaker 1: not been revealed. I don't think it's a coincidence that

858
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: it's exactly one year ago today that there were bombs

859
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: on the underground system in Brussels and over thirty people killed.

860
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: So you'd think it it could be related because of

861
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: the anniversary of that. Well, it's certainly a fact that

862
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: some of these extreme error organizations do like to go

863
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: for anniversaries. I don't think it's a coincidence. We'll have

864
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: to see, the truth will come out, but I think

865
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: we all know what the likely source of this is,

866
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: don't we. Well, we are ever so vigilant. I can

867
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: tell you usually as you know, nine a of in

868
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, and so we've got a were

869
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: vigil on on a whole variety of days ourselves. Rahan,

870
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: what do you know about the people There's a report

871
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: that apparently it's hundreds of tourists on London's four hundred

872
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: and fifty foot ferris wheel, which I assume as on

873
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: Westminster Bridge or adjacent to it, were caught on the

874
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: ferris wheel at the time and watching this terror unfold

875
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: before their eyes. Yeah, I mean you can only imagine

876
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: how these people must have felt being suspended in these

877
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: glass cubicles of the London Eye for hours on end,

878
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: with a direct line of sight to Westminster Bridge, and

879
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: and and and the and the destruction that was going

880
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: on there, and not being able to sort of be

881
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: told accurately what was going on, whether they were safe

882
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: or not. I mean, this is how people felt all

883
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: across Westminster today. You had members of our Parliament who

884
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: were stuck inside the Commons Chamber when it was on lockdown.

885
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 1: You had people stuck inside Westminster Abbey. And I think

886
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: Nigel is absolutely correct. I don't think this is necessarily

887
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: coincidental that this happened, and it's not coincidental, not least

888
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: because we've seen how much the automobile is now becoming

889
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: the weapon of choice for islam Is killers. People like

890
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: you and I very many years have warned about these

891
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: tactics being stay right there Israeli friends, stay right there.

892
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: We'll continue more with our Heim Kassam, Philip Peney, Nigel Farage,

893
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: New king Rich is coming up, and to Freedom Caucus members,

894
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of news. Busy news day, sad

895
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: news in London. Alight to the top of the hour

896
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: in Chicago today A M five sixty the answer and uh,

897
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. We've got three top stories were

898
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: following one the confirmation by Devin Nunia's House Intelligence Committee

899
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: Chair Donald Trump as president elected November, December and January

900
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: was surveiled by intelligent the intelligence community. He was right,

901
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: What did what? Did Obama? No? When did he know it?

902
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: Our second big story the healthcare vote tomorrow. We've got

903
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: New king Rich. Freedom Caucus members win us in the

904
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: next hour, but we continue with Nigel Faraje who has

905
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: to run in a minute, and Philip Peny and Rahim

906
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Kasamas with us. Nigel, I want to get your final

907
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. You know, one of the big issues

908
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: you and I have discussed privately and we have discussed

909
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: on the air, and that is the Islamization of Europe

910
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: and how this also impacts America's decisions on extreme vetting

911
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: of refugees that may not want to assimilate and and

912
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: hold onto Western values and of course border security in

913
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: the case of America. But my observation is the Islamization

914
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: of Europe and the migrant problem and the refugee problem

915
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: has has now added significantly to the danger of everybody

916
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: in Europe. Am I wrong? Well, we're looking at about

917
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: two point five million people that have comeing to the

918
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Speaker 1: European Union over the course of the last couple of years.

919
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 1: And of course they've done so because Mrs Merkenell said,

920
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: as many of you as want to come, can come.

921
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Speaker 1: We've not been able to vet any of them out.

922
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: Of course, Isis themselves have said that maybe use that

923
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Speaker 1: tide of people to put their own terrorist operatives into Europe.

924
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: So goodness knows how many potential terrorists there are now

925
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: living in Germany, Belgian Trumps and elsewhere. And the big

926
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 1: take out for today, I think is that when Donald

927
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: Trump tries to do things as the American posident, to

928
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: try and make your country safer, all we see a

929
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: people protesting in fit Avenue and screaming and shouting with indignation.

930
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I would say to those people, wake up, let your

931
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: presidents make your country safer. You do not want to

932
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 1: guess like much of Europe. Very well, said Nigel. Again,

933
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers go out to our friends at

934
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: the UK in the UK, thank you, my friend, thank you.

935
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Rahim Kasamos, the editor

936
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Speaker 1: of Bright Part London. You know, this is the main

937
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: question we've been asking though, is how do you how

938
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: do you possibly vet somebody's heart? How do you possibly

939
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: know what their motivation is? Also when you factor in

940
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: that isis all these radic Islamic terror groups and even

941
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: those that made comments and promises that the flag of

942
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: of Shariah will fly over windsor Castle. Um, you can

943
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: You never really will know, will we about people that

944
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: come into your country. No, we won't know, and and

945
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: we have to take it on what they say. They've

946
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: been saying what they've wanted for years, not least the

947
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: Islamic black flag flying over Windsor Castle. But they have

948
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: been very clear about the radicalizing people in prisons, in schools.

949
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: These aren't things that are new to us. It has

950
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: just been a lack of political will that has led

951
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: us to this position. I just got back from a

952
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: lot of the no go zones across Europe where they

953
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: getto eyes these people and create the perfect conditions for

954
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: radicalization in these areas. And what is our response, What

955
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: was our response last year in Brussels to this day

956
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: when there was the Brussels attack, teddy bears, tears, candles, cartoons,

957
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: mural mosaics, flowers, flags, projections, hashtags, balloons, reefs, vigils, lights, scarves.

958
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: This seems to be the best that Western civilization can

959
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: now muster in order to defend ourselves. Well, I'll say this,

960
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: and I won't be a beat around the bush and

961
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: saying if somebody needs to get a grip on this situation,

962
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: and get a grip soon. We've seen now what it's

963
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: led to in terms of political uprisings across the European continent.

964
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: We've seen what it's led to here in the United States.

965
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: But let me echo what Nigel said, but give a

966
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: warning to this administration as well. This president was elected

967
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: on the basis of making America safe. And if there

968
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: is any equivocation over that, if they bowed down to

969
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: political correctness in the slightest and something happens like that

970
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: over here in the United States, again, I don't think

971
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: anybody will forgive them. I honestly, I've been using the

972
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: phrase they will have blood on their hands. You know,

973
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: Philip Haney, I have come to admire so much about

974
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: you and as one of the founding Department of Homeland

975
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: Security members and somebody that really fundamentally is devoted now

976
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: many decades of your life dealing with this issue. Um,

977
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: I just count on you as a go to person

978
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: in times of trouble like this. And I don't know

979
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: if there is an answer to vetting. I do support

980
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: the President's extreme vetting, but I don't know if real

981
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: vetting is even possible. Am I wrong in that conclusion? Well,

982
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: not in if you're going to rely on information from

983
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: these six core countries that we keep hearing about. We

984
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: just had a conversation with the person and the American

985
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: on the ground in one of the Middle Eastern countries,

986
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: and he specifically noted that it's literally impossible to vet

987
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: individuals because we don't have the technology or the backup

988
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, paper records within the government to verify who

989
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: they are. And even if we were able to verify them,

990
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: they're related to other individuals who may be affiliated with terrorism,

991
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: who will pose a threat either to them directly or

992
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: to their family. Can I go back to the indicators

993
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: for a minute, Yeah, please, I really appreciate you do.

994
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: There are two classes of indicators. There are the actual

995
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: idea of the individual, which we talked about a few

996
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: minutes ago, and they're also the methods because these kind

997
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: of attacks tend to follow a pattern that has been

998
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: laid down by previous attackers. So one of the classes

999
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: of what we call first level analysis are the methods.

1000
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: And in this case, it's a classic pattern of using

1001
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: a car, as your earlier guests said, and a knife.

1002
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: They you go right across the bridge, just obvious from

1003
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: the pictures of the car, had no intention to stop.

1004
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: In other words, he was literally trying to crash right

1005
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: through the gate, just like the Bayroot bombings back with

1006
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: the Marine barracks, the same thing to crash through, revive it,

1007
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: come out, and attack as many people as possible. So

1008
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: if you combine those two areas of indicators, the actual

1009
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: person and the methods used, you can begin to put

1010
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: a premise together. And why is this all important? Because

1011
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: first of all, from a cops perspective, we don't know

1012
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: how many people are involved in the attack. In order

1013
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: us to narrow down the arena of operation, we have

1014
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: to be able to detempt determine what likely kind of

1015
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: people would be affiliated with the known attacker, and that

1016
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: is the reason why we focus on the idea identity

1017
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: of the individual as soon as possible. We don't even

1018
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: have to know his name necessarily. We have other indicators,

1019
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: as I've already discussed with you, that combined together allow

1020
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: us to devent develop a case and then we move

1021
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: forward from there. Mr Haney, I I honestly mean this

1022
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: with all my heart. We we have to get you

1023
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: in touch with the President and his national security team

1024
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: and the Department of Homeland Security. Your country really could

1025
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: use your professional expertise and in keeping this country sto

1026
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: safe and I appreciate all the knowledge always share. Raheim.

1027
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: I want to go back to you specifically about Great Britain,

1028
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: about Europe in particular. Uh. You have told me on

1029
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: this program before that you were raised Muslim, and we

1030
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: have we have gone into deep detail about the fact that,

1031
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: in spite of media reluctance to acknowledge a simple truth

1032
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: that no go zones exist in in Europe, they do exist.

1033
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Number one and number two, if you look at, for example,

1034
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: assimilation and some of these other issues that is not happening,

1035
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: as evidenced by the eight three plus Shariah courts that

1036
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: exist in Great Britain. Right right, I mean, your listeners

1037
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: will remember just a few weeks ago, when your present

1038
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: has made a statement about what was going on in Sweden.

1039
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: He was attacked by the Swedish political establishment, the European

1040
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: political establishment, the British political establishment, the US political establishment,

1041
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: the media establishment, all across the board. And the very

1042
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: next day we saw the most heinous images and videos

1043
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: coming out of one of the suburbs of Stockholm showing

1044
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: a mass migrant background person riot for the odd people,

1045
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: burning the cars, so on and so forth. I went

1046
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: to these places. I went to rinker B, I went

1047
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: to Husby, I've been to Mollenbeck a number of times.

1048
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: I went to the suburbs of Paris. I've seen these

1049
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: places for myself. That what we have to get around

1050
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: here is the is the semantic factor. What the left

1051
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: want to try and do is is is use semantics

1052
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: against us to say, oh, well, you clearly went there,

1053
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: so they can't be a no go zone. And I

1054
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: say in return, okay, fine, put on a police uniform

1055
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: and go there by yourself any time after after dusk.

1056
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: See what happens to you. Put on an ambulance uniform

1057
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: and do the same, Be a local politician, do it.

1058
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: Try being a a young Western woman with blonde hair

1059
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: walk through there with a knee length skirt on. You cannot,

1060
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: and if you do, you're taking your life into your

1061
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: own hands. The assimilation isn't working for a very simple reason, Sean.

1062
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: In all of these places, all across Europe, the left

1063
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: finds it politically expedient to to bundle all these people

1064
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: together in in housing blocks, in tenements so that they

1065
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: get them to vote on mass for them. There's no

1066
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: sign of any wider in integration with society. They have

1067
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: big satellite dishes on the outsiders of their houses because

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Speaker 1: they want to receive foreign language television, and the state

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Speaker 1: says two thumbs up, that's fine by us. Well, what

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Speaker 1: you can see happening here is the perfect Petri dish

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Speaker 1: conditions for radicalization happening. And that is not to say

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Speaker 1: that every single person in these no go zones will

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Speaker 1: become a radicalized Muslim, but it is to say that

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Speaker 1: you are allowing the conditions to ferment. And like you said, Sean,

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Speaker 1: these people who have done this, these socialist parties, the

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Speaker 1: center left parties, these establish cousees, they all have blood

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Speaker 1: of their hands every single time an incident like this happens.

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Speaker 1: So it's really pathetically sad. And you know, I kept

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Speaker 1: asking the question and ask it today, and I've asked

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Speaker 1: it on television, and I asked it and I bring

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Speaker 1: it up in commentary all the time. That you know,

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Speaker 1: we're really talking about a very simple choice here, and

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Speaker 1: that is the inconvenience of people that would like to

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Speaker 1: visit our country versus gambling with the lives of the

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Speaker 1: American people. Philip Penny is when when you look at

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Speaker 1: the extreme vetting issue, doesn't that doesn't it come down

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Speaker 1: to those simple choices. Well, when I was active duty,

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Speaker 1: I interviewed hundreds of people from all over the world.

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Speaker 1: The main problem that we're looking at is the fact

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Speaker 1: that these core countries that we keep hearing about Saffery Ran,

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Speaker 1: which is a state sponsor terrorism, don't have functioning governments.

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Speaker 1: Why should we be expected to trust any information coming

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Speaker 1: from a place that's ruled by violence and anarchy. And

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Speaker 1: so we can determine that the information that these individuals

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Speaker 1: passport documents and visas and so on is really accurate,

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Speaker 1: and why should we take any risk at all. We

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Speaker 1: should air on the side of caution until we're able

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Speaker 1: to verify its true identity. That's early, that simple heart

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Speaker 1: of Uban. Yeah, and that's all Donald Trump wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Uh listen, I want to thank you both. I know

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Speaker 1: we got you both short notice here, Philip Haney, Raheem Khassan,

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Speaker 1: and we just let go of Nigel Farage. Thank you

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Speaker 1: all for being one of us. We're following two other stories,

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Speaker 1: and that is Devin Nunia's House Intelligence Committee chairman confirming

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Speaker 1: surveillance of Trump Tower can also surveillance of calls with

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Speaker 1: the president elect in November, December, in January. And then

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Speaker 1: we only have the Democratic ranking member Adam Schiff whining, well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't tell Usia didn't It doesn't mean that Obama

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Speaker 1: ordered it. Okay, why were they surveilling the incoming president?

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Speaker 1: A lot of questions need to be answered, But the

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Speaker 1: media all left propaganda destroyed Trump media is wrong again again. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to our busy telephones here as we say

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Speaker 1: hi to Lisa in Alaska. Hey, Lisa, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty How are you welcome to Chicago, the

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Speaker 1: Windy City? What's going on? Well? I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: say that Dems really need to prove that Trump and

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Speaker 1: Russia have colluded because one of the main reasons that

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Speaker 1: I voted for him and probably a lot of other

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Speaker 1: people was because he wasn't owned by special interests. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty unprecedented, isn't it? And pretty unprecedented that, you

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Speaker 1: know what happened to Michael Flynn. These are called felonies

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Speaker 1: if they did it, you know, And and the fact

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Speaker 1: that they're revealing these names, that too, is not supposed

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Speaker 1: to happen. I mean, every single protection, fourth Amendment, fifth Amendment,

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Speaker 1: sixth Amendment, if first Amendment, fourth six, they're all violated

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Speaker 1: here because these are unwarranted searches, and this is getting

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Speaker 1: This is gonna end up being a much bigger story,

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Speaker 1: and I predict the news media is gonna have so

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Speaker 1: much egg on their face by the time this is

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Speaker 1: all said and done. I'll give you the last word,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. No, I just think that they needed they

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Speaker 1: need to really Europe for the next election, because they've

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Speaker 1: got to find a candidate that can can say I'm

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Speaker 1: not owned by this corporation of that corporation that gave

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Speaker 1: me money for my campaign very well, suddenly, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: In Alaska eight nine four one, Shawn Tolfree telephone number right.

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Speaker 1: The News Round Up, Information Overload hour. We start with

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Speaker 1: former Speaker of the House, New King Rich will weigh

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Speaker 1: in on today's terror attacks in London. Terror attacks, Well,

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Speaker 1: there really were two separate incidents by the same person,

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Speaker 1: but one on Westminster Bridge and of course the UK Parliament.

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Speaker 1: We're following the Devon Nunez revelation today that there was

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Speaker 1: surveillance on the President elect himself and on Trump Tower.

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Speaker 1: And then our third story, we're monitoring and following what's

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Speaker 1: happening in the lead up to tomorrow's vote in the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives to repeal and replace Obamacare. The Freedom

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Speaker 1: Caucus says they have enough votes to stop it and

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Speaker 1: as of now they are voting nay against the bill.

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Speaker 1: I'll have two of them join us. Also coming up

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Speaker 1: in the final hour of our program today as we

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Speaker 1: continue from Chicago. Many things to our affiliate here AM

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Speaker 1: five sixty The answer all right, News Round Up and

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Speaker 1: Information Overload. Obviously, we continue with our top story today

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Speaker 1: and that is the attack at the UK Parliament and

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Speaker 1: you have what two people killed, cop stab more than

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Speaker 1: dozens of dozens injured in this attack. And we're getting

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Speaker 1: the very latest information to you as it comes into

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Speaker 1: the newsroom here at the Sean Hannity Show. Also, the

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Speaker 1: House Freedom Caucus will have two members at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of this hour, will have Jim Jordan and Dave Bratt.

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Speaker 1: They are saying a of right now that in fact

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Speaker 1: they do not have the votes to pass the Healthcare

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Speaker 1: Repeal replaced bill tomorrow. They have specific objections. They'll tell

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Speaker 1: us all about it at the bottom of the hour. Also,

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Speaker 1: another big blockbuster from my perspective, and that is the

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Speaker 1: comments of the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunia is

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Speaker 1: saying that yes, in fact, that the Trump that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and Trump Tower and his transition team, that they

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Speaker 1: were in fact surveiled at least post in November, December

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Speaker 1: and January post election. Remember, we have been confirming this

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Speaker 1: now for two weeks with Sarah Carter and John Solomon

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Speaker 1: and everybody else in the media has had it wrong.

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Speaker 1: And now we have to ask, was the FBI director

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Speaker 1: director parsing his words earlier this week. Well, there's no

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Speaker 1: wire tapping, all right. What's the difference between wire tapping

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Speaker 1: and surveillance and something we will be getting to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of, probably more tomorrow in this program, although of

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Speaker 1: course the health care voter scheduled tomorrow. Former Speaker of

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Speaker 1: the House New King Rich is with us on this

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Speaker 1: very busy news day. Miss to Speaker, you know, I

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Speaker 1: had you on this program on nine eleven. I've had

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Speaker 1: you on this program on other newsdays when in fact

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Speaker 1: another terror attack has taken place here we have it

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Speaker 1: in London. I've been given out crime statistics since the

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Speaker 1: migration of people from countries like Syria and elsewhere has

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Speaker 1: been have been absorbed into the the European population. We

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Speaker 1: talked about the Islamization of Europe and then we have

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Speaker 1: a debate in this country about building walls and vetting refugees.

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Speaker 1: Do you see it all interconnected here? Sure? Said, Look,

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Speaker 1: it's all the same crisis. You have people who want

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Speaker 1: to destroy Western civilization, people who want to impose their

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Speaker 1: values and their way of life and are prepared to

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Speaker 1: kill to do it. And we see this, you know,

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Speaker 1: all across the world. It's a really, really deep problem.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think that we have to confront the

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Speaker 1: fact that this is not going to go away. We

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Speaker 1: can talk about ISIS, but ISIS is one tiny piece

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Speaker 1: of a worldwide problem, and we're gonna all them. We

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Speaker 1: have to have a grand strategy to defeat the worldwide

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Speaker 1: movement as well as to defeat components of it, whether

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Speaker 1: they're in Serio or rack Raft get the stand and

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Speaker 1: have you also that it's very important to recognize that UM,

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Speaker 1: we and then I states have every right to defend ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I'm stunned when people explain to me for this judge,

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Speaker 1: for example, in Hawaii, do we sall have somehow owe

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Speaker 1: it to the entire planet UM to allow them to

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Speaker 1: come here as long as anybody from their country is here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the sort of invitation to a

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Speaker 1: disaster that you would think responsible people would never engage in.

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Speaker 1: And it tells you how bad some elements of our

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Speaker 1: left are. They don't no matter how many attacks you see,

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Speaker 1: they don't seem to get it. It's so sad. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know Boston Marathon, you know of all the talk

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Speaker 1: about Russia. The Russians warned us about the Sarnav brothers

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Speaker 1: in that case, and we didn't listen to them. Then

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Speaker 1: you have Chattanooga, Then you have fort Hood workplace violence,

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Speaker 1: of course, then the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, San Bernardino,

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Speaker 1: and all over Europe, from Germany to France, to Great

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Speaker 1: Britain to Belgium and all throughout Europe. It is the

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Speaker 1: crime statistics have more than doubled almost everywhere, and America

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Speaker 1: is on the precipice and in the Obama years was

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Speaker 1: making the same mistake as Europe has made over the years.

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Speaker 1: And look at look at how difficult it is for

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Speaker 1: the president, even though he has the statutory authority and

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Speaker 1: the authority as commander in chief to protect the country.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, then the liberals just go judge shopping

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Speaker 1: in a y or Washington, knowing that it's then gonna

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Speaker 1: be appealed to the Ninth Circuit, which is the most

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Speaker 1: over one of the most overturned courts in the country,

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Speaker 1: and then we have to push it all the way

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, thousands of people

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Speaker 1: come in unvetted into the country. So I mean, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me that you've got and then when we

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Speaker 1: need to understand this, there are people placed in the government.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the places where the Trump team

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Speaker 1: is going to get to be much more aggressive and

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Speaker 1: I think much more determined. There are folks who permeate

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Speaker 1: this government who believe in exactly the things Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is opposed to, and who believe in uh, putting Americans

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Speaker 1: at risk rather than being honest about the dangers in

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Speaker 1: the world. And these folks not to be rooted out

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Speaker 1: and dismissed. And I think we underestimate And this, of

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Speaker 1: course as part of what I think, this this shocking

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Speaker 1: news story which I frankly only saw in the last

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Speaker 1: ten minutes, that the ahead of the Intelligence Committee in

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Speaker 1: the House is now saying that in fact, Trump was

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Speaker 1: part of a collection uh process and what was under surveillance? Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to say to yourself, what the

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Speaker 1: devil is going on? When the FBI correct that director

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Speaker 1: gets up, the head of the National Security Agency gets

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Speaker 1: up and and tells us things that are apparently either

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Speaker 1: they're ignorant or lying. Uh. And how does this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how does the system get so totally out of control?

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Speaker 1: And this is all part of the same problem. You

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Speaker 1: have generals and and and the ambassadors and people who

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Speaker 1: over the last eight years have been told by Obama

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Speaker 1: and his team, you will never say the words, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, radical Islamic terror, or you will be kicked

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Speaker 1: out of the service or kicked out of the out

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Speaker 1: of the State Department. So they've all learned this, this

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Speaker 1: mind numbing language, and they've all learned how to sort

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Speaker 1: of say things very carefully and make sure you don't

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Speaker 1: hurt anybody's feelings. Meanwhile, as you're pointing out if people

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Speaker 1: getting killed in London, we now discover, as has happened

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Speaker 1: often in the last couple of years, that Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: tweets may have been accurate, and all of the attacks

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Speaker 1: of the New York Times and the Washington Post and

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Speaker 1: the news media and the Democrats may turn out to

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Speaker 1: be false. Mr Speaker per tent are two weeks now straight.

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Speaker 1: I have been putting on radio and television John Solomon,

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Speaker 1: a twenty year vet with the AP, Sarah Carter, twenty

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Speaker 1: year Foreign UH foreign investigative journalist on this program that

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Speaker 1: we have been telling everybody that there were two specific

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Speaker 1: warrants issued, one of fives a warrant, one a regular warrant.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we knew the surveillance took place. We also

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Speaker 1: knew that surveillance of Trump's UM server took place in

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower. And we've been reporting all of this. Everybody

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Speaker 1: in the media has been wrong. Donald Trump, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: he used the word wire tap, but it really was surveillance.

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Speaker 1: Now we're parsing and now we're splitting hairs. I had

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Speaker 1: to tell you, you know, I'm reasonably bright, and I

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Speaker 1: used to be on the Game of eight looking at

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Speaker 1: secret I don't know that I would know the difference

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Speaker 1: between wire tap and surveillance. I mean, I think Sony

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Speaker 1: Walkson is as well. We didn't technically wirecap because you

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Speaker 1: know your cell phone doesn't ever wire I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the person just want bunch in the head. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: that's goofy. Well it is. But when the House Intelligence

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Speaker 1: Committee Chairman Devon Unions is now confirming that the what

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Speaker 1: he's calling it incidental collection of communications, Now there's very

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Speaker 1: specific we have. The Espionage Act is very specific language

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Speaker 1: that says if an American is picked up in the

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Speaker 1: process of surveilling, say a foreign target or an ambassador

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Speaker 1: or let's say Vladimir Putin. Because everyone's obsessed with Russia

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Speaker 1: and they notice an American is on the call, they

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Speaker 1: are supposed to minimize their listening. Number one of who

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Speaker 1: the American is. Number two standard practices that when they

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Speaker 1: write up a report that you don't name who the

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Speaker 1: American was, You just say an American. And the third

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Speaker 1: thing is is it's never supposed to be leaked. And

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Speaker 1: where the Solomon Carter investigation seems to be leading us

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Speaker 1: to is that not only was part of this political

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Speaker 1: the entire narrative that Russia and the Trump campaign colluded,

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Speaker 1: even though there's not been one shred of evidence that

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Speaker 1: the media has been running with now for eight months,

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Speaker 1: but on top of that that, in fact that in

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Speaker 1: every single case, it seems to be that only a

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Speaker 1: top security clearance individual could have known the things that

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Speaker 1: are being leaked. That's problematic. Hood That also makes me wonder, though,

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Speaker 1: how does Trump know all this? Trump He's not about somehow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets it dis way intuition,

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Speaker 1: or if he is a source, but he's somehow weeks

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Speaker 1: ago was ahead of everybody. They all ridiculed him and

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Speaker 1: attacked him. They're still doing it it. But if it

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Speaker 1: turns out now that he was totally right, and they

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Speaker 1: were wrong. I mean, I think that will be just

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Speaker 1: an amazing turnaround, uh and and one that we ought

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Speaker 1: to really think about how to drive home for the country.

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Speaker 1: But here you had the entirely media, all of the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: some of the Republicans, and the civil service all chanting

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Speaker 1: why is he doing this? And it turns out what

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Speaker 1: he's doing it because he's right that this that that

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Speaker 1: is going to be the way it turns out. And

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's going to backfire even further. I

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Speaker 1: think by the time we get to the end of

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Speaker 1: this story, you're going to see a political You're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a political quotient involved here at a very very

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Speaker 1: high level. That's my that's my bet on this, and

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Speaker 1: don't bet against me. I'm often right, all right. More

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Speaker 1: importantly so, at the bottom of this half hour, we

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Speaker 1: have to Freedom Caucus members Jim Jordan's and Dave Bratt,

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Speaker 1: and they are steadfast. They have been meeting, not with

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Speaker 1: the leadership in Congress, they have they have pretty much

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Speaker 1: ignored the Freedom Caucus. They have the votes, They've told me,

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Speaker 1: and they even have built a hidden cushion. I've been

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Speaker 1: told that they will stop this bill. Tomorrow and that

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Speaker 1: they've heard very little to nothing from leader Ship Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump at Mike Pens have reached out to them continuously

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Speaker 1: throughout the process, and that they're going to vote against

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Speaker 1: it unless they get a few specific changes. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand who we are, and I you know, as you know,

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Speaker 1: I used to eat the Republican whip and after that

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Speaker 1: was a publican speaker. Um, it will be a major

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Speaker 1: mistake for Speaker Ryan to bring a bill to the

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Speaker 1: floor if he doesn't have the votes. Uh. Well, the

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Speaker 1: last thing you want to do to a brand new

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Speaker 1: president is marching up the hill and have him lose

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Speaker 1: and then have to march back down again. Um. Any question,

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Speaker 1: why don't why aren't they? Well, I gotta take a

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Speaker 1: break here, Hang on one second. We'll come right back

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Speaker 1: and I'll pick that up right as we continue. We're

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Speaker 1: in Chicago today at a M five six D answer

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Speaker 1: and our many thanks to our affiliate here for all

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: their hospitality eight nine for one Shawn Tolfree telephone number.

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Speaker 1: At the bottom of the hour, we have two Freedom

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Speaker 1: Caucus members Freedom Caucus saying they do not have a

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Speaker 1: deal and they do have the votes to stop the

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Speaker 1: Healthcare bill from passing tomorrow. One of our top three

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Speaker 1: stories today obviously the terror attack. We're monitoring the very

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Speaker 1: latest out of London, and Devin Nunez, the House Intelligence

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Speaker 1: Committee Chairman, confirming that yes, Donald Trump was surveiled in November, December,

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Speaker 1: and January. The media has been wrong, all right, Mr Speaker.

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Speaker 1: You were saying that if in fact, the Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 1: and again they complain that the leadership barely reached out

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Speaker 1: to them during this process, that if they don't have

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Speaker 1: the votes tomorrow and they risk a loss on this vote,

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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't bring it to the floor. Why don't

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Speaker 1: they just reach out to the Freedom Caucus and give

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Speaker 1: them the three things that they want right now and

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Speaker 1: get it done. Didn't have to bring into the flour

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Speaker 1: sooner or later. I mean you know that, I am.

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Speaker 1: I do not understand, um, why people haven't sat in

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Speaker 1: a room and worked out an amendment UM that was

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Speaker 1: guarantee passage of the bill. They're very close, um, and

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Speaker 1: the folks and I just checked this morning and know

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Speaker 1: that the leader of the Freedom Caucus wants to vote

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Speaker 1: yes I and now of these guys want to want

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Speaker 1: to stop Donald Trump, and they're very frustrated. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: so to be honest, I don't understand why why there

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Speaker 1: they are. If in fact Speaker Ryan has the votes,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but it but it struck me that there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a gamble going on here, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's I don't think it's right to put

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Speaker 1: the president in a position where he risked a loss

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Speaker 1: at the very beginning of his president This is fixable,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, at least one of I have been told

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Speaker 1: at least one of the things the argument as well.

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Speaker 1: It won't get through Center reconciliation. It doesn't matter, that's

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Speaker 1: the sentence problem. That's not the House's problem. Um, if

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Speaker 1: they have if there's something that they can do that

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Speaker 1: will allow the Freedom Caucus to feel in good conscience

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Speaker 1: that they can vote yes. The fact that Ms McConnell

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Speaker 1: camp building the Senate is mrs problem. He'll fix it

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Speaker 1: now when you get to conference here in a different place.

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Speaker 1: But they now know where their problems are, and by

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Speaker 1: the time they get to conference, Bill have had weeks

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Speaker 1: to sort this out and then figure out what is

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Speaker 1: the conference build that compassed the House and the Senate.

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Speaker 1: And I am really perplexed that that we don't see

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Speaker 1: more fluxibility right now on just getting something to votes.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I've always felt like you need

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Speaker 1: to be a two nineteen or two twenty just because

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Speaker 1: you know somebody may not quite keep their word. Yep, yep. Well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something. From my perspective, I would

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Speaker 1: have worked with those guys from the beginning because they

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Speaker 1: have the support of a lot of people and I

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Speaker 1: and I give all the president credit. You know, when

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Speaker 1: I asked Mark Meadows, I said, well, what's it been

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Speaker 1: like negotiating with the President? What's it been like negotiating

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Speaker 1: with the leadership in the House. Well, he said, Trump

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Speaker 1: gets an eight plus plus plus he said, well, the

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Speaker 1: House never contacts us. The House leadership isn't bizarre, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to It's not the way I

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Speaker 1: think that it works in the long run. My model

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: has always been listening to learn, help and lead. Uh

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Speaker 1: And I think you have to approach it from that standpoint.

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Speaker 1: And um, I think that if you don't listen and learn,

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Speaker 1: it's very hard in a free society. Just a practical reality.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, Mr Speaker, you're gonna join us tonight. We

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Speaker 1: have all these stories breaking. We'll have the latest obviously

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Speaker 1: out of London. We'll talk about Devin Nunez comments that yes,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was surveiled by who why. We'll get maybe

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Speaker 1: have more details by that. It's would be an amazing

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Speaker 1: show tonight because, uh, we have so many things moving

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Speaker 1: in parallel that are real right now, right this minute,

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Speaker 1: you know, and of course the health care bill a right.

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Speaker 1: Mr Speaker has always thanks for being one of us.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. We do have two members of

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Caucus. What would it take for them to

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Speaker 1: get on board? And how united are they against the

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Speaker 1: bill if they don't get the things they're asking for.

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Speaker 1: We'll get that next and we'll continue to monitor the

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Speaker 1: events out of London and much more here on the

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show, holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers

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Speaker 1: no one else does. America deserves and know the truth

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Speaker 1: about Congress alright now till the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: one Shawn a toll free telephone number. We continue to

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Speaker 1: monitor and follow all the breaking news that is out

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Speaker 1: of London. Another terror attack shouldn't shock anybody, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we will have full coverage tonight a Live Hannity as

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Speaker 1: we continue our coverage here on the radio program today,

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Speaker 1: but there is so much other breaking news out there

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Speaker 1: that we've got to pay attention to now. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we're expecting a House vote tomorrow on this healthcare repeal

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Speaker 1: and replace bill. Shawn Spicer commented on this at his

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Speaker 1: presser earlier today. And here's what he's or this actually

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Speaker 1: was yesterday. He is the president getting full health care

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Speaker 1: and accountable price. I think they vote against this bill.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll probably pay a price at home, meaning

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Speaker 1: I think that you can't go promise over and over

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Speaker 1: again since two thousand ten in the case that the

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Speaker 1: member has been there that long, but at least for

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Speaker 1: those who have been there that line, and at least

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Speaker 1: and even the new ones, this was a major component

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Speaker 1: of the last election, and I think there's probably not

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Speaker 1: a single Republican member in itself who went out and

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Speaker 1: talked about this. And I think when you realize the

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Speaker 1: components of this bill, and that the President worked with

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Speaker 1: the House in the Senate, you put something together that

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Speaker 1: achieved a promise that was made to voters. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a price to be paid, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be with their own voters, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go back and explain to them why they

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Speaker 1: made a commitment to them and then didn't fall through.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that's interesting that people who

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Speaker 1: agree or don't agree with the President in terms of

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Speaker 1: the legislative agenda at least give them high marks regardless

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Speaker 1: of whether or not they subscribe to is his agenda

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Speaker 1: for keeping his word and his promises. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things that he's made very clear

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Speaker 1: this morning. We pledge to the American people, at the

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Speaker 1: congressional level, at the Senate level, at the federal at

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Speaker 1: the at the presidential level, to go do something. And

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Speaker 1: this bill, um, while it probably not everybody got everything

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Speaker 1: they wanted, does exactly what we said. It's repealing it

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Speaker 1: and replacing it with all of the principles and the

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Speaker 1: aspects that we discussed throughout not only last cycle, but

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Speaker 1: in a lot of these cases back through two ten.

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Speaker 1: If we go out there and make these pledges to

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Speaker 1: the American people and don't do what we said we've

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Speaker 1: done on these big things, then I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: going to continue to want to see us in the majority,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna look for an alternative and just about

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Speaker 1: well he remember the names of those who go back

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Speaker 1: to well, all right, then, of course, the President said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: now this was before the meeting that took place earlier

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Speaker 1: today with some of the members of the Freedom Caucus,

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Speaker 1: and this was his response. Yesterday, we had a great meeting,

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01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna get a winner. It's terrific.

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: They want a tremendous healthcare plan. That's what we have,

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01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: and they're going to be a justice. But I think

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01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: we'll get the vote now. The gap has been closed

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01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: for sure. But as of now, the Freedom Caucus members

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01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: are not voting for this bill. There are two specific

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01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: issues that they are demanding for their support or else

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01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 1: they don't think they can support it. And and as

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: a block, they have enough votes to to make it

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01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: that this bill is not gonna pass anyway. The they

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01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,839
Speaker 1: want the repeal of the Obamacare mandates and the essential

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01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: health benefits and the rest they think they can live

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: with at this time. Anyway, and again it's going to

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01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 1: be a much longer process. I think that anybody knows anyway.

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01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan's and Congressman Dave brad join is now

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: both Freedom Caucus members, gentlemen, welcome back to the program.

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Before I get to healthcare, your reaction, you know here,

1506
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: you know, we talked so much about building a wall

1507
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: and vetting refugees and we turn around again and you

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: see this, this terror attack in London today and it

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01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: just breaks your heart. But what does America have to

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: learn from it? Congressman Jordan's yes, and I obviously we're

1511
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: heartsclots the folks in Great Britain, Um. But you're right,

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous world, and it's it's one of the

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01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: key issues. That's it's the issue that's most important for

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: the federal government. It's one of its constitutionally that you know,

1515
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: prospoke with national security and making sure nations secure and

1516
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: the presants been strong on this, and it's why we

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01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: have to secure the southern border. Um. This is this

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01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: is a big part of that. So I'm nothing to

1519
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: keep up on all the news. Well, we've been following,

1520
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, I've been given out all the crime statistics

1521
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: in Germany and all throughout Europe that have gone up

1522
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: dramatically since they've had this influx flux of migrants into

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01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: the country. And there's not any vetting that's taking place there,

1524
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: and you'd have to be pretty dumb, I think, Congressman

1525
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: Brad to believe we could do the same thing Europe

1526
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: has been doing and expect a different results. No, I

1527
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: mean this is uh, We've all been talking about this

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01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: for years, and I mean it is ironic, right the left.

1529
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: There are failed states all through the Middle East, etcetera,

1530
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: going through North Africa whatever, where these folks are coming in,

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01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: the terrorists or trained and it really does go back

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01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: to the fundamentals that the liberals have always been talking about. Right,

1533
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: these are failed states in poverty. We'll guess how you

1534
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: fix that. You fix it with free markets and capitalism

1535
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: and business. So the only answer for these failed states

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01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: to make their people successful. The left, of course is

1537
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: opposed to it, Bernie and Elizabeth barn etcetera. And so

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01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: it's the irony. Irony is right that we're trying to

1539
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: help these people in these countries to develop that will

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01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: end this spiral of of attacks coming from terrorists countries

1541
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: and there's a win win, But the left just will

1542
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: not get on board. The basic project of you know,

1543
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: setting up democracy is the rule of law, all the

1544
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: fundamentals we pay for granted this country. So let me

1545
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: get to the healthcare bill and let me ask you

1546
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: both this question. Um, all day I've been reading the

1547
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus is not in agreement with the bill with

1548
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: leadership with the White House at this point. From my understanding,

1549
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,839
Speaker 1: it now has come down to two very specific issues,

1550
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: and that is repealing the Obamacare mandates and essential health benefits,

1551
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: which would I'm sure lower costs for people. Uh. Congressman

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: Jordan will start with you. Where is the entire caucus

1553
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: and and what is what has gone on today? And

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01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: tell me who you've met with and negotiated with a

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01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: couple of key things. One, the opposition in the Freedom

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: Caucus is still strong and its song for a couple

1557
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: of key reasons. Does this bill repeal Does the Speaker's

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01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: bill repil Obamacare? No, it doesn't. Even Croudhammer has said

1559
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: it's Obamacare light not. That's not not my terman, that's

1560
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: charlesmer Uh. Does this bill lower premiums? No, it doesn't.

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01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Even cbl said premium is going to continue to rise.

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01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: And does this bill unite Republicans? Know, every single conservative

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01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: organization in the country, a major organization, is opposed to

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: this bill as our conservative in the House and conservatives

1565
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: in the Senate. So how many votes do you think

1566
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: how many votes do you think you have against it?

1567
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Because those votes taken place tomorrow unless they decide they

1568
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: can't win. So we just with the chairman. We don't

1569
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: give out the number, but I will tell you this.

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01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: They don't I'm i'm, I feel very comfortable in saying

1571
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: that they don't have two under in sixteen and the

1572
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: opposition within the Freedom Caucus is very strong. What do

1573
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: you need to make this work? Because I understood you.

1574
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: You got a little closer, but not close enough. Tell

1575
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: us about the meetings with the president, the meetings with

1576
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Vice President Pence, and the mandates and regulations that have

1577
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: driven up the cost. That's what has to go so

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01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: that premiums actually come down. Never forget what obomateer did.

1579
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have all these mandates, all these regulations

1580
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: drive up the cost of insurance, mandate that people buy

1581
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: if they don't get a penalty. That's what we have

1582
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: to That's what we have to overturn. That's what we

1583
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: have to repeal, and we have to do it in

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,839
Speaker 1: a way that actually brings down the cost of premiums

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01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: for middle class families so that they can actually pick

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: the plan that hits their needs and be able to

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01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: afford it. All right, And that's simple, basic, By the way,

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01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 1: free market, that's the free market, which is supposed to

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01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: be a Republican position, a conservative position. Where what did

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: they say to you in these meetings specifically about this request? Uh,

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01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: it was nothing specific. They're talking about some things that

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01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: may happen. But but again, we think this is so

1593
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: important that we have to get it right and most important,

1594
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: we have to do what we told the American people

1595
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: we were going to do. This bill, as currently drafted,

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01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: does not do that, so we are working on trying

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01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: to make sure that it does. It is really that basic,

1598
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: and if and if the legislation is not going to

1599
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: bring down premiums, then that's not going to solve the problem,

1600
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: and that's not consistent with what the American people elected

1601
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: us to think. So my next question is who's been

1602
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: willing to negotiate with you as the president, been open

1603
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: to your ideas as the vice president? As Paul Ryan

1604
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: yeah Son the White Off and we went with an

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01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: hour and a half with with a number of folks

1606
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: at the White House and Vice President. We've we've talked

1607
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: with President Trump a couple weeks to go to market

1608
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 1: Meadows and myself and he's President Trump's meeting with us.

1609
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: They have been willing to reach out and talk. But again,

1610
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: we appreciate and the President was great when he came

1611
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: as folks us. Yes, I think they would say the

1612
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: same thing about the president's presentation to the conference, the

1613
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: entire Republican conference yesterday, but that doesn't change the four

1614
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: corners of the document. That doesn't change the bill, the

1615
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: legislation itself, and it is not accomplishing what the American

1616
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: people sinis here. Do you think they just don't think

1617
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: you guys have the votes to stop it, or do

1618
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 1: they think that they're going to be able to twist

1619
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: arms and threaten and admonish you for not keeping your

1620
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: promise because you don't support their bill and they don't

1621
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: want to make changes keeping our promises, doing to what

1622
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: we said, and this bill doesn't do it. So we're

1623
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: all about the freedom. Cock is all about keeping our promise.

1624
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: This bill doesn't accomplish that. And that's the point which

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01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: we we've been trying to get across with everyone that

1626
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: we've been in discussions. Well, has anybody said to you,

1627
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: Dave Brad that they're willing to make the changes that

1628
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: will get you on board. Yeah, well there is some

1629
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: good news. It's breaking at the last second. And that's

1630
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: what Jim has been saying. We we should have been

1631
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: having these conversations all the way through right right as

1632
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: the last second, all the creativity. Now even the Senate.

1633
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: Right we're getting some words that the Senate may be

1634
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: open to doing some of the heavy listing that we

1635
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: haven't heard before. Well, that's all we want. We want

1636
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: Trunk to have a successful presidency. And you can't do that,

1637
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: as Jim was saying, when you retain the structure of debates. Bratt,

1638
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I've heard this in the past. Now the Senate will

1639
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: make those corrections for us, or it will be done

1640
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: in conference right now. And that's been I mean, we

1641
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, we've been around that. That doesn't happen. The

1642
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: Senate is having a very hard time messaging on what

1643
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: their votes can do right now. But the major point

1644
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: we're making is the price has to come down. Trump's

1645
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: a businessman, a consumate businessman. He knows price, product, quality,

1646
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: ETCETERA right that matters and The average person back home

1647
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: cares about one thing, and so we can't have prices

1648
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: going down three years from now, which is the way

1649
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: CBO is scoring this thing. We need immediate relief for

1650
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: our people, and there's only one thing that's keeping that

1651
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: from happening. The insurance. Federally mandated insurance regulations are keeping

1652
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 1: young people from going out and buying a product that

1653
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: they want to buy at a cheap price. They have

1654
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: to pay this loaded up federal product, right, so there's

1655
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: no shopping across state line. There's none of the doctor's

1656
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: innovation you've had on the interview in several times. That's

1657
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: all missing that. The free market piece comes later and

1658
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: we're told we can put that in and bucket too,

1659
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: But the problem with that is Secretary Price can do

1660
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: that unilaterally as secretary, but then it's not in law,

1661
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: and the Democrats can come back and change it all

1662
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: four years later. And that's not good enough when we've

1663
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: been given this once in a century opportunity. Congressman Jordan,

1664
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: you were going to say something, I interrupted you. Well,

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01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: the answer here is really easy, Sean start over. It's

1666
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: real simple. You know, my background is in support of wrestling,

1667
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: and you know. One of the things that learned there

1668
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: is sometimes you learn more from the setback than you

1669
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: learn from the victories. And there's nothing wrong with saying,

1670
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: you know what, we've gotta make changes. It's time to

1671
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: redo this bill and do it in a way that's

1672
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: consistent with what the American people expect. That is so simple.

1673
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: It happens all the time in the real world, but

1674
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: now here in Washington. Oh no, we can't start over.

1675
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: We've got to keep ramming through a product that's not

1676
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: not consistent with what the American people are like this do.

1677
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: It's really that basic. So let's start over. Let's put

1678
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: this together in the right way. Let's make sure we

1679
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 1: get up those regulations of mandates that are driving up

1680
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: the cost of insurance. Let's repeal Obamacare, like we said,

1681
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: And for goodness sakes, why not just start with this premise.

1682
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: We just voted on the bill that's the clean repeal

1683
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: legislation fifteen months ago. Every Republican was four then went

1684
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: to President Obama's death, Kebach other why not start from

1685
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: that base and then add to it what we can

1686
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: And Paul Ryan squares up and down that that's not

1687
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: a full repeal either, no, but it's a good starting

1688
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: point in United Republicans, and it's something that we all

1689
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: ran on. And then adding the other things that that

1690
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 1: will get us to full repeal and the kind of

1691
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 1: replacement we need. That's the way. That's the simplest and

1692
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: smartest and best path forward. Kay, And with what the

1693
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: voters want. After all my years of studying Washington, let

1694
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 1: me let me assume what the next number of hours

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Speaker 1: of your life leading up to tomorrow's vote or sometime

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01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. It is gonna be NonStop arm twisting. It's

1697
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: gonna be threats. It's gonna be a carrot, it's gonna

1698
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: be a stick. It's gonna be you'll never get reelected.

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01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: It's gonna be I'll be glad to campaign for your

1700
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: raise money for you. That's what you're gonna hear all

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01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: of this on. Is there anything that can happen between

1702
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: now and this vote tomorrow that will get the Freedom

1703
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Caucus on board? It's in fact, we can bring down premiums.

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01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna do what we told the voters

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01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're open to that, and we've been

1706
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: we've been clear about that from the get go. So

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01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: that's critical. But this legislation doesn't do that. That's that's play.

1708
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: But you've gotta be a little more specific. What specifically

1709
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: do you need that will guarantee that for you? You

1710
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: got you gotta repeal the regulations and mandates that are

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01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: driving up the costs. So what I said at the beginning, Yeah,

1712
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: exactly what we said at the beginning, all of them,

1713
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: though not just a part of them. You gotta do

1714
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: it all so that we so that we drive down

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Speaker 1: the cost bring back affordable insurance, and and recognize this fundamental,

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01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: fundamental fact. The left defined his successes signing people up

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01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: for government insurance. We define it as bringing back affordable

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01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 1: insurance that they can then uh, select the one that

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01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: fit families need. That's what we're trying to accomplish. All right.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did you guys notice what Devin Nunia

1721
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: said today, and that is that in fact, Trump and

1722
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: his campaign and Trump Tower was surveiled in spite of

1723
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: what Comey said the other day, wasn't wired tapped? He said, Okay, surveillance,

1724
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: wire tap. Now we're playing games. Okay, all right, listen,

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Speaker 1: I've I've got what you guys saying here well, have

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01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: you back on tomorrow if you'll join us and update us,

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01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: and I agree with I agree with your position. I

1728
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: think those changes need to be in the bill, and uh,

1729
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: we'll we'll, you know, we'll watch it closely. And you're

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01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: convinced without those changes, there's no way that bill pass us.

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01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: Got only the votes are there now, Sean, and we've

1732
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: we've been clear from the get go clean repeal, make

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01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: sure you bring down the premium costs for working class

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01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: and middle class families. That's what we told the voters

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01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 1: and that's what we've been for all along. All right,

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's and of course our good friend Congressman Dave

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01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: Bratt on the other side. We appreciate both of you

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01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: being here and updating us. We'll continue to update that

1739
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: more out of London each and every day. Annedy's got

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Speaker 1: something new. John Annony is on right now.