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Speaker 1: gonna get into the Scott storre To interview though, oh
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Speaker 1: a motherfucking week. My g I digress Scott Storch, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest producers of all time, somebody who has
Speaker 1: always intrigued me, someone who I've always been a fan of,
Speaker 1: Somebody who I've always wanted to have a sit down
Speaker 1: conversation with. My good friend Steve Lobel manages him. He's
Speaker 1: had a hell of a roller coaster ride of a
Speaker 1: career of a life personally, he's had some public lows
Speaker 1: that we've all seen, and over the last four or
Speaker 1: five years he's really bounced back and has been just
Speaker 1: kill and shit. And I mean there was some stuff that.
Speaker 1: Out of respect for his wife, I'm sure he didn't
Speaker 1: dive into too many details about on this podcast. But man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Scott Storch has had one
Speaker 1: of the craziest lives and whenever his movie comes out,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fucking epic. So this interview was done
Speaker 1: about a month ago. Yeah, we recorded this about a
Speaker 1: month ago, right after his single dropped. He put a
Speaker 1: song out with Tiger in Ozuna and this we recorded
Speaker 1: it the night that it came out, actually, or the
Speaker 1: night before. So shout out to Scott Storch, legendary guy,
Speaker 1: and was super excited to sit down with him. I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoy the interview. Man, let's get into bulet
Speaker 1: keV here with the legendary Scott Storch. Man, who needs
Speaker 1: no introduction. Your new single just came out, sir, I
Speaker 1: don't want to fuck up the pronunciation fuego, which pretty
Speaker 1: much just means like hot fire, right, yeah, that hot fire.
Speaker 1: Why I'm curious because I think ever since you announced
Speaker 1: you were gonna be doing like a project, super excited
Speaker 1: to hear what you. I know you're sitting on some
Speaker 1: huge records. Yeah. Man, you know we're not that far
Speaker 1: along the product in the project. Uh, but we were.
Speaker 1: We I got like four or five solid songs that
Speaker 1: I really want to use for the project. But we're
Speaker 1: just getting going on it. But you know, we wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, put out a single and and do something
Speaker 1: like the first time that was like super global and
Speaker 1: and you know, had had potential to hit many markets,
Speaker 1: and just do something that doesn't ask you like why
Speaker 1: like like Scott Storch, don't we don't. We don't necessarily
Speaker 1: associate you with the Spanish ship. Come on, man, you
Speaker 1: know about that the Yankee in fact, though, oh shit,
Speaker 1: that's real. But I just mean, like, I just mean,
Speaker 1: like overall, like you know what I'm saying, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just for me, pioneering
Speaker 1: and just trying new stuff, and even new stuff for
Speaker 1: me is fun, you know what I mean. It makes
Speaker 1: it like I don't like getting burnt out on doing
Speaker 1: like what you'd expect from me. So it still has
Speaker 1: that melody and production value and that you know I'm
Speaker 1: known for, and it's doing something that I feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey, listen, man, you're one of the
Speaker 1: most prolific producers of all times. I think you can
Speaker 1: do whatever the fuck you want right now. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to go back bro because
Speaker 1: like we were just having this discussion about The Roots,
Speaker 1: and I'm like a first time I ever saw the Roots,
Speaker 1: I was probably thirteen and this was like two thousand
Speaker 1: and two or some shit, Okay, and this was after
Speaker 1: you would probably stopped working with him, like on a
Speaker 1: more regular basis. I went to the production up. But
Speaker 1: remember like buying the bootleg of Organics, which was like
Speaker 1: the first Roots album, but it wasn't like their first
Speaker 1: major album. Yeah, that was Do You Want More? Do
Speaker 1: You Want More was their official debut. We did Organics.
Speaker 1: We recorded the whole album one day. Wow. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying we recorded the whole album in one day? Was
Speaker 1: that out of necessity because back then studios arm was
Speaker 1: expensive and well yeah, but then at the same time, yeah,
Speaker 1: we wanted to, you know, make it economical. We had
Speaker 1: a limited budget, but we were a live band. We
Speaker 1: were used to playing these songs live, and we were
Speaker 1: able to all set up at the same time record
Speaker 1: to a click or a cow bell or whatever. We
Speaker 1: were recording right, and the band would start the song
Speaker 1: and we would cut them off from beginning to end.
Speaker 1: I'm curious like back then, like being around that early
Speaker 1: nineties Philly hip hop energy, like especially the Roots, Like,
Speaker 1: did you do you feel because at the time there
Speaker 1: was no precedent for that much live instrumentation in hip
Speaker 1: hop or let alone a band in hip hop? What
Speaker 1: was did it feel like as special as like now?
Speaker 1: We obviously the Roots are you know, one of the
Speaker 1: greatest rack groups of all time, But back then as
Speaker 1: a kid, did you realize like what you were a
Speaker 1: part of? Yeah? No, I mean I knew we were
Speaker 1: on some special you know, like there was a couple
Speaker 1: of things that sort of resembled what we were doing
Speaker 1: at that time, but it wasn't what we were doing,
Speaker 1: like I mean, like the Diggable Planet. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: different things like but they were they were wrapping over samples.
Speaker 1: There was another group in Philly called the Goats at
Speaker 1: the time, but that was like a college band, but
Speaker 1: it was like hip hop, like you know, right, the
Speaker 1: Roots were special. You know, I knew it was gonna
Speaker 1: have a long lifespan, but I just as much as
Speaker 1: I loved being a part of it, I wanted so
Speaker 1: much more to be a record producer and stay in
Speaker 1: the studio. I'm the kind of person that likes to
Speaker 1: like wake up in my house every day and I'm
Speaker 1: not a big fan of going on the road and
Speaker 1: just chose a different life. Yeah. So obviously you win
Speaker 1: your first Grammy with the Roots, which was I mean,
Speaker 1: I love by the way, shout out to everybody watched
Speaker 1: you versus Battle. That ship was legendary. It was it was,
Speaker 1: it was, It got ugly. It's all the same. But like,
Speaker 1: at what point in time after you pivoted away from
Speaker 1: working with them full time, Like what was that that
Speaker 1: first big look for Scott Storch at Scott Storch to
Speaker 1: brand like as as as a solo guy who decided
Speaker 1: to break away from this Roots crew, Like what was
Speaker 1: that first thing that happened where you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: like I think this can actually work, Like I like
Speaker 1: me as a record producer can actually be a thing.
Speaker 1: I went with us this dude, uh, the guy that
Speaker 1: actually got the record deal for the Roots, Derek Jackson.
Speaker 1: You know, he brought it to Wendy Goldstein, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But you know, after I left, I ended
Speaker 1: up getting in contact with this guy and he took
Speaker 1: me to New York from Philly and we did a
Speaker 1: run all the way around the city and went from
Speaker 1: label to label. This that the other couple of you know,
Speaker 1: I was hoping to just cut a record while I
Speaker 1: was in New York, like that's all I wanted. And
Speaker 1: one guy came through for me, my first client, who
Speaker 1: was it Buster Rhymes Buster, and we made a song
Speaker 1: called blood Out and it went on the ED Strikes
Speaker 1: was Anarchy, Yeah, Anarchy album, And then I set up
Speaker 1: a gig to come back the following week and work
Speaker 1: with Capona Noriega and Capone. The day that I was
Speaker 1: going to the studio to meet, he literally was getting
Speaker 1: brought from prison to the studio, so this was like
Speaker 1: his first studio stop after getting out. Did you end
Speaker 1: up on did you end up having production on War
Speaker 1: Report or any or what did you did you forget. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's crazy, man, So Copone and Noriega. It's
Speaker 1: crazy because Nori also had a lot to do with
Speaker 1: Pharrell starting with Super Thugs. That's kind of interesting to know.
Speaker 1: But but obviously you're the You're known as the piano man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you once like you
Speaker 1: because I feel like there's a Skott Storge sound and
Speaker 1: a lot of people say that you know, you like
Speaker 1: like but when it comes to the keys and and
Speaker 1: and the way you played them bro like in the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, I just feel like you had a
Speaker 1: signature sound. I mean, I think you still do. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, but you know what, like a lot of
Speaker 1: that sound, it's it's a part of the evolution of
Speaker 1: what hip hop became. Yeah, and you know we have
Speaker 1: to leave it there and go for new stuff and
Speaker 1: innovate because you know, people, you don't want people to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's what he was doing back then,
Speaker 1: Like we want some new ship. Like You've done a
Speaker 1: great job of pivoting recently because I feel like you
Speaker 1: kind of had to like kind of prove to everybody
Speaker 1: like you're back over the last four I had to
Speaker 1: get back because you know, I left music to go
Speaker 1: off and do the debauchery and shit that I did
Speaker 1: when I wasn't making music and doing drugs and all right,
Speaker 1: and come back flash forward a decade later and now
Speaker 1: you're trying to like, you know, you have to reevaluate
Speaker 1: where is music now? And like, you know, we learn it.
Speaker 1: I mean not the musicianship part, but the production, the
Speaker 1: sonics and you know, the way, you know, the simplicity
Speaker 1: of things. You know, like I had to relearn it. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I feel like you you you kind of did something
Speaker 1: that's so hard to do because if you think it's
Speaker 1: super hard, if you do, if you think of a
Speaker 1: lot of the producers that were popping back then, like
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys aren't around anymore. There's a few,
Speaker 1: there's like Timbaland, there's Dre, there's yourself. But like the
Speaker 1: fact that you're able to tap in with Trippy Red
Speaker 1: and tap in with well we we used to have
Speaker 1: a specific way of looking at music as a whole,
Speaker 1: as a you know, producer, musician. And once you think
Speaker 1: you know the right way to make done, because there
Speaker 1: is no right will there's the right way to make music.
Speaker 1: It's always evolving. And changing, so you have to like
Speaker 1: constantly reinvent yourself. And it's also your stuck. Subjective music
Speaker 1: is subjective. The people that can just keep going and
Speaker 1: and evolving it that's you know, That's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: rare in I always wanted to ask you this. I
Speaker 1: remember you did clap Back for jar Roll right, which
Speaker 1: was a fire ass record, but at that time, nobody
Speaker 1: was smukling with gen Roll. It was kind of that
Speaker 1: weird part of his career where fifty they had the
Speaker 1: beef and people kind of chose when you ended up
Speaker 1: working with fifty on the Massacre? Did was that like
Speaker 1: a conversation, like like you did lean back obviously, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like that kind of guy, and I know
Speaker 1: you made that clear to everybody. I am not on
Speaker 1: some wrap beef ship, but at the time he was,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to eat like I was a starving
Speaker 1: art you know that you could have mad records out
Speaker 1: still hadn't made no money, so motherfuckers was working and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I leave those beefs to other people. But
Speaker 1: like a lot of times I would find myself doing records,
Speaker 1: you know, for people, and like I would get like
Speaker 1: that clapback is an example, Like it wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: go to him like that. That beat was so fire.
Speaker 1: That beat I made in my house the day before
Speaker 1: I was going to New York. I was going to
Speaker 1: New or to work with with Janet Jackson at y
Speaker 1: Clutch Studio. I remember just clear as well, and that
Speaker 1: day before P. D. Crack and Beanie Siegel stay to
Speaker 1: my house in Florida. I made that beat and I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, just it never happened, like they just were
Speaker 1: sleep in the studio. It wasn't, you know whatever. So
Speaker 1: so that was meant for. I left the next day
Speaker 1: to New York and I got the call from Rule
Speaker 1: like Yo, I need something. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: give him this beat and it was like a two
Speaker 1: track and it never got That song never got mixed. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the music of it was just given like a
Speaker 1: two track on like a DAT tape like from the crib.
Speaker 1: So maybe they equt it or whatever. But that's crazy
Speaker 1: weird how like records end up that. It's funny because
Speaker 1: I think that's when it like obviously it wasn't like
Speaker 1: the biggest hit in the world that that beat was
Speaker 1: so hard, man, it could. I used to cringe in
Speaker 1: the club. I would hear it because it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it sounds so thin compared to all
Speaker 1: because you knew it wasn't mastered. Yeah, it wasn't mixed,
Speaker 1: but mastered. I'm like, dude, making me look bad, yo.
Speaker 1: So another you know when we watched the Battle, shouts
Speaker 1: to everybody who watched the Versus Battle with you and
Speaker 1: Manny Fresh. The Doctor Dre records I think are kind
Speaker 1: of like had to be like one of like the
Speaker 1: turning crowning moments of your career. Like talk about like
Speaker 1: obviously being a part of Chronic two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: which was very very interesting time and hip hop because
Speaker 1: I remember that album being teased for so long, and
Speaker 1: I remember death Row cock blocking and putting out an
Speaker 1: album called Chronicle. Had to make a Chronic two thousand
Speaker 1: and one right because it came out, and like I remember,
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, like that didn't make sense. But
Speaker 1: I remember that weird ass death Row album. It had
Speaker 1: like a cigar on the you had the cigar on
Speaker 1: the cover, and then the guy who sounded just like
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg. There was a guy on that album that
Speaker 1: was like a snoop impersonator. I swear to god, Sugar
Speaker 1: was petty, but nonetheless, like that album was, It's one
Speaker 1: of the top ten greatest hip hop albums of all time.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about, like, how did that initial connection
Speaker 1: happen with Dre? I think you've spoken a lot about
Speaker 1: like the process of making those records, but like you
Speaker 1: getting into the fold with Dre becoming a part of
Speaker 1: that team that worked on that project. Okay, So there
Speaker 1: was obviously the moment where I left the Roots and
Speaker 1: I was trying to make a career for myself. What
Speaker 1: year did you officially like break away in ninety five? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I left the group. I actually ended up in ninety
Speaker 1: seven getting a visit from them when I was in
Speaker 1: the middle of working on the song. But this whole
Speaker 1: other story, and I gave them more records. But at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm trying to make a life for myself
Speaker 1: as a producer, and you know, I was struggling. So
Speaker 1: The Roots had a like an open mic women in
Speaker 1: music series that they used to do every Sunday at
Speaker 1: the Wetlands, Okay in New York, and every Sunday for
Speaker 1: a year, I would do this. I was part of
Speaker 1: the house band. It was me Questlove, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple other cats and then like crazy, I mean all
Speaker 1: everybody was there. Common was always there. You know, Eric
Speaker 1: Abadou was there. It was a movie. It went on
Speaker 1: every Sunday. So finally, after a year of doing that,
Speaker 1: they did one in California at the Martini Lounge. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I see this girl when I go out to
Speaker 1: the Martini Lounge my first time ever in California, never
Speaker 1: been to Cali, and this girl from Philly comes up
Speaker 1: to me that I knew it was a rapper that
Speaker 1: I'd worked with whatever, and it was Eve. Eve was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I got I got a I got a record deal
Speaker 1: with Doctor Trey. This is prior to her going to
Speaker 1: rough references before we do like really knew Eve. She
Speaker 1: was like way before. She wasn't like upstreams downstreams. She
Speaker 1: was side streamed. I guess you know, Drey was so
Speaker 1: busy with him, and you know, yeah, Dre had that
Speaker 1: weird era where he put out that Aftermath album with
Speaker 1: the bomb on the cover and it was like more
Speaker 1: like a compilation album. Yeah, this was ever after that. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so you know we've been there, done that, yep, that record. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so I'm like out there, like I'm literally at
Speaker 1: this moment in my life, probably two months behind in
Speaker 1: my rent and like struggling whatever. And she's like, come
Speaker 1: meet Doctor Trey, probably like ninety eight, ninety nine, getting
Speaker 1: ninety nine or yeah, maybe it was ninety eight. I
Speaker 1: think it was ninety eight. At any rate, she says,
Speaker 1: come meet Doctor Trey and you know, playing some music.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have any music with me,
Speaker 1: so we'll come play the piano for him because I
Speaker 1: didn't have any dat tapes my CDs, and I played.
Speaker 1: I sat in the lobby and waited for a few hours,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's like, all right here, you hot
Speaker 1: on them keys. So I played some shit. He was
Speaker 1: like that. He was like, don't go anywhere. Got a
Speaker 1: hotel room key and fucking stack of money like everything.
Speaker 1: It's like, fuck with us. We were making this album
Speaker 1: and he's just like the vibe of like this different
Speaker 1: like style. I guess that he was used to hearing
Speaker 1: in you know, California musicians that he would bring in
Speaker 1: different keyboard players. Yeah, and it was something completely different
Speaker 1: East Coast, but still like universal about it and he
Speaker 1: was fucking with it, so he put me on the team.
Speaker 1: Bro was honor. I learned everything there. That's where I
Speaker 1: learned to really understand music production. And how long was
Speaker 1: that era of your career where you were in there learning?
Speaker 1: Like right, yeah, like how long did that last? Like
Speaker 1: four or five years of like and so you're just
Speaker 1: soaking up like everything, like because he's so meticulous. I
Speaker 1: hear him crazy about incredit Sonic, Like you said you
Speaker 1: hated here did jar rollsong in the club because you
Speaker 1: could tell the difference of the that Like that's probably
Speaker 1: probably got that for being around Jerry's a little sure.
Speaker 1: It's insane to think, like I feel like it's like
Speaker 1: still Dre, like low key, like the fact that you're
Speaker 1: a kid from Philly and kind of shaped like West
Speaker 1: Coast Sonics for like the next like eight or nine years.
Speaker 1: Because if you go and like listen to like games documentary,
Speaker 1: like I just feel like those keys are there at
Speaker 1: their West Coast now, Like it's like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like there's records that you hear that are
Speaker 1: like we kind of you know, I can't take credit
Speaker 1: for like Dre's production is I'm obviously. Yeah. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I brought to the table, I slowly, like the Chronic
Speaker 1: two thousand, I brought a certain it was more I mean,
Speaker 1: it was production, but it was like even more might
Speaker 1: want to call it writing, like we were writing these
Speaker 1: things and this and that, and you know, he was
Speaker 1: you know, he definitely had a vision for what he
Speaker 1: was doing. But I brought to a new sound that
Speaker 1: was different, like than the you know, G funk exactly
Speaker 1: thing going on. It was more orchestral. It was like
Speaker 1: pianos and you know, something totally new. Did you Because
Speaker 1: at the time Dre had so many artists that I mean, damn,
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have heard with a rock
Speaker 1: him album, But it sounded like under Aftermath. We were
Speaker 1: around for some of that. Did you? I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you, did you work on the unreleased rock album? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How was that? How did I even rock him? Come
Speaker 1: meet me in Miami one time? Work with me? Now?
Speaker 1: Is this like remember he doesn't fly, you had to
Speaker 1: drive out the Actually is this like peak like Storach
Speaker 1: like Miami time? Yeah? But yeah, no, but I mean
Speaker 1: we I worked with him with Dre like right in
Speaker 1: LA and then I worked with him later in uh
Speaker 1: in Miami. Randomly, there has to be like legend talk
Speaker 1: about like the rock king music that you heard while
Speaker 1: he was under aftermath because we never got to hear
Speaker 1: any of it. I mean some of the ship was
Speaker 1: pretty dope. I ca't front it was. It was pure
Speaker 1: unadulterated him. He's this kind of rapper that like, once
Speaker 1: he opens his voice, he's got a tone and a
Speaker 1: particular style. DMX one of those people I'm looking at
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, shout out to the belly poster in
Speaker 1: the room. Legendary. Yeah, No, that's I always like, even
Speaker 1: like hit Man, there was I just felt like there
Speaker 1: were so many fire artists in their aftermath that Devin
Speaker 1: the dude did he sign it after Man? No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying on that album, Man Devon is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite shout rap a lot rod he was. He
Speaker 1: definitely did his thing on that album Facts and you know,
Speaker 1: I miss it so much, but I used to all
Speaker 1: the time after, you know, being in that crew, be
Speaker 1: able to call my brother Nate Dog for hooks for songs,
Speaker 1: and you just you knew you was going to get
Speaker 1: a hit. You know, you're like yo getting Nate. You
Speaker 1: and you and Nate's relationship very strong. Yeah, we were cool.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because I like, what was the the he
Speaker 1: was on? It wasn't he on a kiss record that
Speaker 1: you did? We did the Uh yeah he was. But
Speaker 1: there was a record that I really liked dB C
Speaker 1: and him, The Streets def Jam Ghetto Heisman was the
Speaker 1: name of that album. Yo. One of my favorite West
Speaker 1: Coast rappers ever doesn't get enough respect, my favorite of
Speaker 1: the three and West Side Connection for the record. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Ice Cubing back ten. But yeah, man like
Speaker 1: and then obviously man like. I always tell this to
Speaker 1: shout out to Steve Lobell. Steve, we work, were working
Speaker 1: the legend. But always am like, Yo, man, whenever your
Speaker 1: Netflix mini documentary series or movie or whatever your life
Speaker 1: story fan is the Wolf of Wall Street of music dog.
Speaker 1: But like, we gotta get Steve Leabelle to play a
Speaker 1: cop in the movie. He's got to play you know,
Speaker 1: he's got to play himself or I want to know
Speaker 1: who plays Steve at the end of the movie. When
Speaker 1: when during your comeback good Bruce willis, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's great, But now I mean you you you obviously
Speaker 1: It's well documented by the way. I thought it was
Speaker 1: very corny. The skits during that battle that Manny for
Speaker 1: I thought that was the corniest shit ever. But I digress.
Speaker 1: If you can't dazzle them with genius, baffle them with bullshit,
Speaker 1: shout out to six or nine. Uh. Nonetheless, that era
Speaker 1: of your life, they got out of control, right, So
Speaker 1: there's a point in time where you're clearly the biggest producer,
Speaker 1: I mean at your peak. Like what was the Scott
Speaker 1: Storch beat costing? It was like a little soft eighty racks.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Was there ever an era in hip where
Speaker 1: peop were getting like two hundred and fifty a beat?
Speaker 1: Or is that just? Yeah? The thing we've had these situations,
Speaker 1: me and me and Timbaland we split a million dollars
Speaker 1: for a beat? Really, hell damn? Which beat was that? Huh?
Speaker 1: Which was for a commercial? A commercial? Yeah? For what company?
Speaker 1: And one and one shoes dropped a million? Shit? That's crazy.
Speaker 1: You know he was commanding some crazy money. Like I
Speaker 1: was just coming up. He was already there, like chilling
Speaker 1: I was, so I was like, goddamn. But in that era,
Speaker 1: I just feel like you were one of those guys,
Speaker 1: like you were like one of those guys. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: if you get a Scott Storchby, like you're fucking out
Speaker 1: of here. And I was given everybody that money's worth
Speaker 1: until the habits came in and then it was just
Speaker 1: like now, were was there ever any because I think
Speaker 1: there's always like speculation that back then certain female artists
Speaker 1: would sleep with producers to get beats? Did that ever
Speaker 1: have no to get beats? Yeah, or like to get
Speaker 1: a discount or like no, I mean they was playing
Speaker 1: eighty thousand and they were still coming out of there.
Speaker 1: It was still coming out of their budget. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were still coming out of you still got to recoup this,
Speaker 1: and the fuck that's crazy now, But like, what do
Speaker 1: you remember the year that ship started to kind of
Speaker 1: get a little hazy and out of control, like where
Speaker 1: it was like, fuck, man, this is the This was
Speaker 1: kind of the beginning of the end because I originally
Speaker 1: you weren't a big club guy, right, No, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was stuck in the studio. And then like somewhere
Speaker 1: just after I turned thirty, I think that I went
Speaker 1: a little cuckoo and I started getting into you know,
Speaker 1: the night life. The Papa rozzis and this and excessive
Speaker 1: ship and then like cocaine came into the play and
Speaker 1: you know, Jack Daniels and lots of pussy, man, I
Speaker 1: can you can say whatever you want. Yeah, lots of pussy.
Speaker 1: And I was going crazy and I stopped working work
Speaker 1: just just like I got so much money became secondary.
Speaker 1: And then so are we what do we what are
Speaker 1: we calling this? Like six o seven? We're calling this
Speaker 1: oh seven leaning into eight more So that was kind
Speaker 1: of the beginning of Sugar that's wild man. And then yeah, yo,
Speaker 1: it's I mean you brought it. I just know you
Speaker 1: have the most legendary hit list in hip hop if
Speaker 1: it ever, if it ever came out. We didn't have Instagram, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the victims were you know, shout you saw
Speaker 1: my Fat Joiner, but you reposted it. Yeah, Fat Joe's
Speaker 1: like he fucked all of them, all of them, whoever
Speaker 1: you're thinking of in your head right now, reminding me
Speaker 1: and my boy, I remember my girl, shout out my
Speaker 1: guy DJ Chris John from Tampa. Fat Joe's old DJ.
Speaker 1: But Chris John was like fair Scott Storch's house. He
Speaker 1: was coming down the stairs with this bitch on this
Speaker 1: and this bitch on the other end, and here and
Speaker 1: thumbs and thumbs up the ass, thumbs up the ass
Speaker 1: of them. And we're talking about cramdala cream is what
Speaker 1: we'll say prior to them, being that we're in a
Speaker 1: new chapter. Yeah, and now, by the way, congratulations having
Speaker 1: a you just had a new baby, so congrast you
Speaker 1: know what that passed. I'm like, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm happy right now because I did all that ship.
Speaker 1: You go out of my system and I'm like, I'm cool,
Speaker 1: I'm content. I'm not sweating, No, you know, going to
Speaker 1: the club and trying to find like I just did
Speaker 1: so much of that. Like I'm in the same I'm
Speaker 1: in the same same vibe of my life. I like
Speaker 1: waking up early and hanging out with my nine month
Speaker 1: old baby, watching movies, chilling with the lady. Yeah, once
Speaker 1: you get that ship out of your system, the thing
Speaker 1: is you didn't start to your thirty so you got
Speaker 1: you like got it, like you had to make up
Speaker 1: for your twenties of missing out on all that. No,
Speaker 1: I was always a fucking monster in that department with
Speaker 1: the women. Yeah, but just like it was a different thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, and I don't know how many women
Speaker 1: have you had at the same time, at the most
Speaker 1: at once. I can imagine some of those parties had
Speaker 1: to end up with your bedroom just being lit as
Speaker 1: fuck and you and you being the just wait for
Speaker 1: the movie the movies, wait for the movie? Are we
Speaker 1: talking like a starting five? Like? Are we talking like
Speaker 1: a five path? You know what, I can say this,
Speaker 1: and I like to say this. Through that whole era
Speaker 1: of me being with lot, you know, for miscuous or whatever,
Speaker 1: I always treated everybody with respects and well, everybody always
Speaker 1: had a great time. There was never any funky shit
Speaker 1: going on in my circle, so you know, it was cool.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's dope is your relationship with
Speaker 1: Fat Joe? Because Fat Joe is one of those guys
Speaker 1: who I feel like never wavered in his friendship with you,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, No, he always remained loyal
Speaker 1: to me because I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: Chris Brown as well. I just feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people like kind of wrote you off man, and
Speaker 1: like I think a lot but I think looking out
Speaker 1: of my mind, I mean, fair enough, but I think
Speaker 1: a lot of times like in our industry, like once
Speaker 1: you can't do something for somebody like you almost like
Speaker 1: get the ignore on it, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
Speaker 1: did you a lot of those people who maybe a
Speaker 1: lot of the people that really cared for me, wanted
Speaker 1: to believe time and time again, you know, they wanted
Speaker 1: to believe, so they would you know, tolerate it with
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, we just after a while
Speaker 1: you just figure it out. Like you know, you can't
Speaker 1: nobody can force you to to get your act together.
Speaker 1: You have to do it. You just have to get
Speaker 1: it together. And then I want you to talk about
Speaker 1: the project you have, the Heavenly Center, which I think
Speaker 1: is a great approach because I grew up around, you know,
Speaker 1: my family being big, big drug addicts, and I think
Speaker 1: the twelve step program is a little dated. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's prehistoric. It's prehistoric, and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: faith based, you know, it's kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, kind of from what
Speaker 1: I understand, the Heavenly Center is a cannabis centric like
Speaker 1: a place to try to help people get off certain
Speaker 1: drugs by by using cannabis. Crowd yeah, not just I
Speaker 1: mean we allow the cannabis and we'll educate you about
Speaker 1: the cannabis and like try and evaluate you and see
Speaker 1: what cannabis works the best for you and how much
Speaker 1: of it Millig, It's really it's really helpful to get
Speaker 1: people off opiates by the individual. Yeah, it really helpful.
Speaker 1: And for me it worked to get off of cocaine
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I'm living proof of that shit.
Speaker 1: You know, people have anxiety when they when they're recovering
Speaker 1: from hard substances. Cannabis helps with that and get you
Speaker 1: through that and people you start enjoying the way you feel,
Speaker 1: and it's not like a negative thing like whereas like
Speaker 1: some of these drugs, the high that comes from that
Speaker 1: destroys your life. It's not the case with cannabis. So
Speaker 1: people want to feel like they have something that they
Speaker 1: can relax and you know, just and it's also it's
Speaker 1: an anti inflammatory. So like I think a hard like
Speaker 1: we talk about people who get fucked up on Perks
Speaker 1: and ship and heroin getting off. The getting off means
Speaker 1: those withdraws and if you could just dab yourself, you're
Speaker 1: you know, it helps, man. So the Heavenly Center is
Speaker 1: opening up when it's first July first and it's in
Speaker 1: La it's in Studio City, Studio City, so it's in
Speaker 1: the valley. See the heavenly I like that. Come on man,
Speaker 1: that's fire. So is that something that like what like,
Speaker 1: obviously we know you're on this like comeback trail and
Speaker 1: we know you're you're your lowest of your lows. Was
Speaker 1: what was the inspiration of saying, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to help people. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: definitely part of it. And you know, conversations with obviously
Speaker 1: with Steve LaBelle and you know he's always helping me,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, to expand one. Of course,
Speaker 1: of course it's not always about like making a beat,
Speaker 1: Like there's so much more we can do. Like you know, dude,
Speaker 1: you we wouldn't have Yeasies if Kanye West just it
Speaker 1: may beats all time, we wouldn't even have him rapping.
Speaker 1: He would still be just producing facts. You're you're your
Speaker 1: last five four or five years. We touched on that
Speaker 1: a little bit, but we're talking down below from Roddy Rich.
Speaker 1: We're talking russ I mean trippy even like the stuff
Speaker 1: he did with six ' nine, you know, crazy right,
Speaker 1: Like what who is the the one artist that is
Speaker 1: a new school artists that you feel like you have
Speaker 1: an insane chemistry with like that. It's just like Russ
Speaker 1: for sure, I was gonna say, I've got have not
Speaker 1: failed yet. We've made I don't know we We've released
Speaker 1: how many songs with him so far? Five? Five? More
Speaker 1: than that? And Russ is the kind of guy six
Speaker 1: or seven. Every time we would go in the studio
Speaker 1: we worked six or whatever. The number of records that's
Speaker 1: out is the number of records we did, and they
Speaker 1: all go out. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. And then like
Speaker 1: it's crazy because I know that like he kind of
Speaker 1: prides himself on self production on but I remember seeing
Speaker 1: an interview was like, yo, the one guy wanted to
Speaker 1: get in with the Scott Storch. Yeah, he was saying,
Speaker 1: I think Doctor dray Me and Timbaland were his top three.
Speaker 1: Like like getting like letting like letting somebody like into
Speaker 1: this creative process like it's got an honor. Man. It
Speaker 1: felt good, like you know when people like you know,
Speaker 1: it gets you inspired, when you feel you know people
Speaker 1: are feeling what you're doing, and it's like because they
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect after, you know, when they're
Speaker 1: gonna come into the studio with you. Like I remember
Speaker 1: Russ was even saying, he was like, man, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to get an opportunity to come in and work
Speaker 1: with Scott Storage, but He's like, and then for it
Speaker 1: to be dope, that's that's that's on the cake on
Speaker 1: your album is something that I think is overdue because
Speaker 1: I think back in the day when like DJ Clue
Speaker 1: was dropping the professional and like you, I mean Timberland
Speaker 1: even you know, I mean obviously tim Tim was rapping
Speaker 1: Timberland and Magoo, Oh my God, shout out to Magoo
Speaker 1: fake as q Tip. I love him though when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, who was one of my favorite rappers.
Speaker 1: But I feel like this is something this way overdue, man,
Speaker 1: Like are you reconnecting with uh any of the veterans,
Speaker 1: the Vets, the Fat Joe's. I think, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be multi fascinated album and it's not just rap shit,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be all different kinds of ship. What about
Speaker 1: little country, some country? But what like obviously you when
Speaker 1: you did don't say nothing. I was I remember as
Speaker 1: a kid seeing the article or the ad in Double
Speaker 1: Excel and it's saying produced by Scott Storch oh Ship.
Speaker 1: He's back with he's doing the Roots record. But I'm
Speaker 1: wondering what would what would have to happen like now,
Speaker 1: Like would would that be something where you'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I need to like it's my debut album. I need
Speaker 1: to bring thought and question to do a record like
Speaker 1: going It's already happened. Talked to Black Thought maybe a
Speaker 1: month ago about it. By the way, Black Thoughts is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest rappers. I want to make a
Speaker 1: record like with Black Thought and like J Cole, something
Speaker 1: crazy with quest love on the drums, bru and ship
Speaker 1: like that that sounds like a hip hop what dream?
Speaker 1: I told them. I told both of them. I told
Speaker 1: J Cole and I told Damn, that's that's great, yo.
Speaker 1: You working with six N. Obviously, prior to all this
Speaker 1: crazy ship going on, I remember seeing that video you
Speaker 1: Want the Keys. It was the Tory record, by the way,
Speaker 1: Tory shouldn't that that That hook was crazy? Crazy? Was there?
Speaker 1: But was there any other records that that we didn't?
Speaker 1: We never heard that? You guys did? Yeah? Do you?
Speaker 1: It was like more is there is that? Like? Uh no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, I mean, are there any records that are
Speaker 1: that we have that haven't come out that that that
Speaker 1: are no, no, no, okay, what is that? Like? I
Speaker 1: wonder as a producer because on the hip hop side
Speaker 1: of things, I feel like a lot of rappers just
Speaker 1: are I mean, he's kind of black on him, But
Speaker 1: as a producer, you're kind of not necessarily I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're held to the same standards, like would
Speaker 1: you would you work with someone like him again if
Speaker 1: it made sense? I you know, I hate I don't
Speaker 1: even want to answer this question because I know people
Speaker 1: are gonna intentionally for no matter what I say. If
Speaker 1: I said I would, I won't, won't whatever they're gonna like,
Speaker 1: you know, just talk about it. But I'll just say this.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't turn my back on anybody in life.
Speaker 1: That's it, you know what I mean. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been You've been in some low places, man, I've been
Speaker 1: in some low places. You know, human beings can work
Speaker 1: through shit together, you know what I mean. That's Hey,
Speaker 1: that's some real shit, man, That's some real shit. Yo.
Speaker 1: Is there ever a beat of yours that you wish? Uh?
Speaker 1: Like that that came out that like maybe it was
Speaker 1: a record that you were like, you know what, it
Speaker 1: wasn't worth the bag. Yeah, those who happened, let's not
Speaker 1: even address those. Can we have any examples at all?
Speaker 1: Just one? Can you give us one? I don't know,
Speaker 1: there had to be a record that dropped that you
Speaker 1: were like, damn, Like maybe it's somebody who's not around anymore.
Speaker 1: Not I mean, obviously, maybe they're just you know, I
Speaker 1: can I don't want to, you know, I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to offend it anybody with that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's been some records that were whack. Let me go through,
Speaker 1: you know what. More than there were being records that
Speaker 1: were whack, there's records that sometimes I remember jay Z
Speaker 1: telling me that record went to the wrong person. He
Speaker 1: sat me down. He was like, he's like, you should
Speaker 1: have gave this record to that person, you should give
Speaker 1: that record to this. Well, give us that example. You
Speaker 1: don't remember, yo, that's real because a lot of it is, uh,
Speaker 1: it's fit right. It's like, damn, can you imagine if
Speaker 1: I always remember I don't know if you watched the
Speaker 1: jay Z documentary where Timberland's playing in beats and Timer
Speaker 1: them plays him the potion and then Luda ended up
Speaker 1: with the potion and jay Z passed on it, and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that happens all the time. Jay
Speaker 1: would have got on that ship. Or you know, like
Speaker 1: you maybe you had one artist who's here, and then
Speaker 1: there's another artist that's your favorite artist and that's a
Speaker 1: huge artist, and the one artist came to see you
Speaker 1: and you were playing beats and then ended up getting
Speaker 1: that and you're like you didn't realize that next week
Speaker 1: you were meeting with this fucking massive artist and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: but you can't. I'm not grinding like that. I don't
Speaker 1: I know a lot of stories where people will take
Speaker 1: the ship like yeah, no, no, I need that be back,
Speaker 1: like jay Z, Oh yeah, this one already took it. Whatever.
Speaker 1: I never done that. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a guess. Let me get a guess on on a
Speaker 1: whack beat or a beat a song of years that
Speaker 1: you weren't a fan of. Let me just get a guess.
Speaker 1: Let's go with h Brook hogans about us. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: I see what his interview is going. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Brook Hogan man, yo, secret, Yeah, I mean we're kind
Speaker 1: of being filled right now, So go ahead, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a secret camera MOTHERU big bag for that record?
Speaker 1: Big bag, big Bag? Now was the Brooke Hogan? Was
Speaker 1: that was that? Was? That? Was that Haul Cogan money?
Speaker 1: Huh nah? Or was that from her label? That was
Speaker 1: from her label? That's crazy that did you like chop
Speaker 1: it up? Did you chop it up with Hulk? Yeah? Cool,
Speaker 1: that's crazy Holster the Holkster. I'm all right, yo, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because like, yo, you did Shutterbug Shut Up.
Speaker 1: That was such a great fucking album. Man. You know
Speaker 1: what's interesting about that song. That's the only record that
Speaker 1: I'm proud of at all that I made as a
Speaker 1: complete fucking junkie because it was in that era, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, I'm looking I'm looking at the records
Speaker 1: during that time, and I'm like, and I remember the conversation.
Speaker 1: I remember Big Boy. He was like, man, people warned me,
Speaker 1: they were like when he was in the studio and
Speaker 1: he's like that, you know, you know, you're not so
Speaker 1: good right now, but the ships flying like He's like,
Speaker 1: I like this record. I'm like, cool. I was fucking
Speaker 1: sweating profusely going to the bathroom to fucking do coke
Speaker 1: and ship like fucked up with that record? Outside outside
Speaker 1: of the million dollar commercial? Do you remember the beat
Speaker 1: that you got paid the most for it by a
Speaker 1: label that record, No No, the one No No. I
Speaker 1: mean outside of that because that was a commercial, so
Speaker 1: like was pretty close to that. But I'm saying, do
Speaker 1: you remember, like yo, the most I mean you got
Speaker 1: in your head like yo, I remember the biggest bag
Speaker 1: I got for a beat in mighty? Like what what
Speaker 1: do you remember what record that was? Now? The real
Speaker 1: I mean, those bags are cool. The big bags come
Speaker 1: when they motherfucking go, right, because when your record goes
Speaker 1: that's when the real bag. It's crazy because like I
Speaker 1: when you did the bat, I was like, damn, I forgot,
Speaker 1: like you like launched Chris Brown, bro, like you had
Speaker 1: his first single like that. Nobody knows that artists are
Speaker 1: going to be where they end up going, right, And
Speaker 1: Chris Brown at that time, it was sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: he was just turning sixteen, just turning sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: and you're the one of the biggest producers in the
Speaker 1: world at the time. Like what did did you see
Speaker 1: that in him? Like earlier? Was it just like for
Speaker 1: you just like another placement like yeah, nah, man, Like
Speaker 1: I made him a promise the day I met him,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'm making you a number one
Speaker 1: song right now. And like I just had a feeling
Speaker 1: like he just seemed like uh for a time, the
Speaker 1: new Michael Jackson, Like this kid was dancing because he
Speaker 1: had a crazy ass voice that age, and I could
Speaker 1: tell his whole personality, his whole style and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna go, and especially since the
Speaker 1: people that brought him there, one of them was Mark Pitts,
Speaker 1: you know who discovered like you know, Biggie and shit
Speaker 1: like that. You and Dre's relationship, how is it today? Great?
Speaker 1: Has he like like like like I sent him my
Speaker 1: single he liked it nice. I had to get approval
Speaker 1: from the Godfather because you like it like acknowledge like
Speaker 1: young man, I'm like proud of you, Scott, because I
Speaker 1: feel like we all should be like that shows fans
Speaker 1: of hip hop like, man, like, your comeback story is crazy, bro,
Speaker 1: and it's just getting started. Yeah man, you know, but
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I'm evolving into a guy that is
Speaker 1: making his own records and not just being like a
Speaker 1: you know, a beat slut. Like I'm making my own
Speaker 1: albums and my own records movies. When you say it
Speaker 1: beat slut that what do you What are you saying
Speaker 1: like somebody who just sells beats to everybody and that's
Speaker 1: you know, it is cool. But when you're making big
Speaker 1: records like and you're taking the time and put in
Speaker 1: the work and be a DJ Kaled and go through,
Speaker 1: you know, it's fucking hell trying to get clearances and
Speaker 1: getting vocals and the vocals is it in the vocals? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That ship isn't yo. Listen, listen, I'm one record deep
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, damn, no respect to called because
Speaker 1: having this deal with everyone's teams. I mean, that's it's
Speaker 1: it's low key like it's a lot because I put
Speaker 1: out a project before and it was like it was
Speaker 1: a lot. Man, it's a lot. Dude. Have you been
Speaker 1: coming from your background and being as musical as you are,
Speaker 1: like you said, you kind of had to relearn where
Speaker 1: music is now? And I've seen you in the studio
Speaker 1: even if stuff doesn't end up dropping, I've seen you
Speaker 1: in the studio so many of these young kids from
Speaker 1: this young generation, and I feel like sometimes I'll see
Speaker 1: you in the studio with a certain arts and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, man that I don't know what that kid
Speaker 1: deserves to be in the studio with Scott's Storch just because, like, artistically,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the there's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship that's coming out. In the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, it has kind of been whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I have to experiment sometimes, I have to
Speaker 1: like take a closer look at the artists and see
Speaker 1: if it can work or not, And sometimes it does.
Speaker 1: Is there ever a time where you're like, man, I
Speaker 1: just I just can't do this. This is just not Yes,
Speaker 1: that's happened with the new guys. Who's like somebody, let
Speaker 1: me tell you one of the things that's crazy to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like there's you know, people rapping. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about stylistically, but on beat. Okay, if something it's
Speaker 1: really I mean a lot of people like it and
Speaker 1: have grown accustomed to wrap completely off beat. I like
Speaker 1: it slightly off beat. When it's completely not even remotely
Speaker 1: anywhere near the beat. It fucking ladies and gentlemen. Things
Speaker 1: have gone blue face. It bothers the funk out of
Speaker 1: me when I'm in the studio. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1: And then I'll just get aheadache and I'll be like ya,
Speaker 1: I'll be right back. I might not come back. Who
Speaker 1: are some of the producers that inspire you? Now? There's
Speaker 1: a whole wave of young guys that are i mean
Speaker 1: murdered beats. It's incredible. There's a lot of cats out there,
Speaker 1: you know, vinyls, Vinyls is fire, doesn't get vinyls don't
Speaker 1: have like yeah, hip boys incredible. Like I also feel
Speaker 1: like too, like with with where music is too, Like
Speaker 1: the d M ship is kind of its own thing,
Speaker 1: you know, Like is that something that like you can
Speaker 1: see yourself like doing an DM record on your album
Speaker 1: or working with someone like Marshmallow or Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of d M isn't d M anymore. It's
Speaker 1: definitely just pop music. Like you listen to the Chain Smokers,
Speaker 1: You're like, this is one hundred BPMS producers that are
Speaker 1: working on Like you said, like Marshmallow got Roddy Rich
Speaker 1: on a single. Yeah, like straight regular make a rap
Speaker 1: shit it is, Yeah, craziest house party you ever threw.
Speaker 1: Crazy It was back in like nineteen sixty seven, No
Speaker 1: fucking remember, I don't know it was a lot of
Speaker 1: crazy in that generation. What about waking up the next day,
Speaker 1: what's the biggest thing you would like, like, like I
Speaker 1: always feel like we all have those nights where it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: did this shit even happen? Like I don't, like, bro,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember how I would get there sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I would wake up in the middle of the
Speaker 1: ocean on my yacht, not knowing how you got there,
Speaker 1: ten ass naked girls and just wake up and the
Speaker 1: ten piece Yeah, just all ass naked all not even
Speaker 1: in the bedrooms mad bedrooms in the boat, but like
Speaker 1: on top of the boat, like out in the front,
Speaker 1: like just fucking like drink spilled everywhere. Just not even remember.
Speaker 1: I didn't even remember how I got on a boat.
Speaker 1: That shit is crazy. Yeah, we were doing some wild
Speaker 1: and then, uh, you had an interesting era where you
Speaker 1: you and you and Little Cambre kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: We were cool. You guys were like cool. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like you guys were like one of the early
Speaker 1: hip hop power power situations that were rumored. That was
Speaker 1: a very brief moment, but our friendship was very like long,
Speaker 1: like we literally didn't really like we weren't together like
Speaker 1: that we were cool, but we were more like enjoyed
Speaker 1: each other's company as like more of a brotherly sisterly
Speaker 1: thing because were you you were here, It wasn't really
Speaker 1: a physical connection like that, Like it was more like
Speaker 1: a friendship vibe. Were you which which album did you?
Speaker 1: Because she had she had that two album run in
Speaker 1: that era where it was like Notorious k I Am
Speaker 1: and then Lebelle Mafia was lighters up right, it was
Speaker 1: that that was a great album. I remember when you
Speaker 1: played that ship in that battle. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I forgot which song do you wish you would have
Speaker 1: played during the battle that you'd liken? There's a lot
Speaker 1: of them. There was maybe a couple of choices that
Speaker 1: I had influence around me that was like you should
Speaker 1: like this is there one that you left out there?
Speaker 1: Like fuck this one? It was like kind of the
Speaker 1: obvious one that could have got played. Yeah, there's probably
Speaker 1: something I can't think of it now. Well, the album
Speaker 1: hopefully will be getting soon. You say you got five
Speaker 1: or six records that you feel good about their album quality. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're like you know that these are going on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a gang of records that are like cool
Speaker 1: that might need to be touched up. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: unless it's something real special, it's not gonna who who
Speaker 1: can you tell us who else is for sure making
Speaker 1: the album? No? Okay? Have you You know it's funny
Speaker 1: because I remember one art one one one one artist,
Speaker 1: So I want to hear you with, right, I got
Speaker 1: to actually introduce you to is the Baby? Did you
Speaker 1: guys ever end up getting together and creating after that? Well?
Speaker 1: I think it was during the Grammys, right, it was
Speaker 1: like Grammy week. Bro. I don't know how, but I
Speaker 1: somehow based ever sending him a pack and I want
Speaker 1: to work with him. I was like yeah, and like
Speaker 1: I would just be collecting joints. I was always waiting
Speaker 1: for one more to come that was better to send,
Speaker 1: and I just ended up missing the boat. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna catch him on the next one. Yeah, Like when
Speaker 1: you it's crazy that you're like, yo, like Storre are
Speaker 1: sending out packs, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: won't do that for anybody, I bet, Yeah, but an
Speaker 1: artist like him, I like, I'm you know, a huge
Speaker 1: fan of him and Little Baby like both both people
Speaker 1: that I'll send the pack. Yeah, Like two of the
Speaker 1: illest guys right now? I mean, who else do you
Speaker 1: like as a fan lyrically coming from a guy who
Speaker 1: started out with one of the greatest rappers of all
Speaker 1: time as the vocalist of your group shot a black
Speaker 1: thought who like lyrically right now? Do you respect like
Speaker 1: on some bar ship like Drake? Of course? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just consistent and always you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's aesthetically pleasing to the ear. You know, the Griselda
Speaker 1: dudes or shout out to have you have you got
Speaker 1: to work with him? Yet? No, I'm just supposed to
Speaker 1: get with Benny. Listen, we got to get the Benny,
Speaker 1: the Butcher, the West Side. Shout out to Conway, shout
Speaker 1: out to that whole crew. You know. An album that
Speaker 1: you should check out. I think it'll appreciate is mad
Speaker 1: Lib and Freddie Gibbs put an album out last year
Speaker 1: that was amazing. Like, did you ever because coming up
Speaker 1: in that era, like when you were hot, like there
Speaker 1: was this other world where it was like mad Lib
Speaker 1: and Black Milk and all these like underground, super grimy
Speaker 1: ass rap producers. Did you like ever like tapping with
Speaker 1: any of that type of ship or were you just
Speaker 1: kind of in your own world because you kind of
Speaker 1: came from that world too. What about Jake Dillon did
Speaker 1: you ever link, like, did you and him ever have
Speaker 1: any time where you guys cross paths? A record that
Speaker 1: you know, I totally was like reaching for that style
Speaker 1: when he was active. You know, there was a record
Speaker 1: that they called Nothing New on the Roots of Things.
Speaker 1: Where's the where is your first Grammy? Right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The roots Grammy? Where's that at? Do you still? Man?
Speaker 1: They didn't give us trophies? Really? We got the certificate. Damn,
Speaker 1: we got the certificate. That ship is crazy. That's disappointing. Man.
Speaker 1: I want to I want anybody who's watching this man
Speaker 1: like who's been through some addiction or might be going
Speaker 1: through some addiction right now. Obviously besides pulling up to
Speaker 1: the Heavenly Center June first or July first first, you
Speaker 1: got to come down there and speak I'm coming man.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I listen, trust me. I've been through
Speaker 1: a lot of drug addiction ship in my life, not
Speaker 1: personally you know, my family, Yeah, but what is I
Speaker 1: always would always like what I've learned from experiencing it
Speaker 1: is like you can't It's frustrating dealing with somebody who's
Speaker 1: addicted to some ship because you you just want them
Speaker 1: to listen to you and to just get clean. But
Speaker 1: like it's really I know it's so cliche, but I
Speaker 1: feel like, I mean, you could tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, it's it's it's up to you. Like
Speaker 1: when you're ready to you have to want to get clean.
Speaker 1: You can't get caught getting high in the bathroom and
Speaker 1: now are you ready? Like it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: a person who's like, oh yeah, I'm ready to get
Speaker 1: clean right now. They have to just all they have
Speaker 1: to do is want to Do you think people have
Speaker 1: to hit rock bottom first? Yeah? I mean sometimes, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, some people might get a scare something that
Speaker 1: like just leads them to it. What was what was
Speaker 1: your rock bottom? Do you remember that moment where it
Speaker 1: was like, man, it's I remember because I remember times
Speaker 1: when I lived in Vegas and Molly Ma would be like, yo,
Speaker 1: Scott Stort just staying in my crib right now, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like this was when I
Speaker 1: when with twenty ten twenty eleven back in the day.
Speaker 1: But like, do you remember your moment when it was
Speaker 1: like the last time. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of those moments. I can imagine
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like dark moments. But you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, by the good grace of God,
Speaker 1: I got through it. Your wife marijuana, Yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to Steve Lobel. But first and foremost I was ready
Speaker 1: to give it up. I knew it was either for
Speaker 1: me death or jail or something that was gonna go down,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like you never
Speaker 1: did you never do like get locked up during that
Speaker 1: whole ship, or was there times where you just did
Speaker 1: some overnight ship in jail? Or I got arrested one time.
Speaker 1: I got arrested one time in Vegas. That'd be a great,
Speaker 1: terrible night. And you know he wasn't taking part with
Speaker 1: me on any of that ship. But I got caught
Speaker 1: in a hotel room with cocaine, like not a lot,
Speaker 1: like like crumbs of it, and I got arrested. That's
Speaker 1: some wild ship to get arrested for in Vegas. It's like,
Speaker 1: what do you think people like we're in Vegas, motherfucker, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think I'm doing in my hotel room?
Speaker 1: You know what? I'm saying, and then any advice you
Speaker 1: would give to uh, you know, I managed a couple
Speaker 1: of producers, and I feel like the production coming up
Speaker 1: as a producer nowadays, I feel like is it probably
Speaker 1: was always harder, but I just feel like with the
Speaker 1: of technology that's available, it's much easier to get into producing.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's easier to get good at it,
Speaker 1: but same way with DJ and like back in the day,
Speaker 1: you used to have to buy turntables and records and
Speaker 1: it was a lot. Now you just get a little
Speaker 1: fucking toy and your app Like, But for for producers
Speaker 1: who you know, like I want to try to break through, Like,
Speaker 1: what is some advice you would give to them? Because
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's a lot of it is luck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for a producer, someone who's finding artist to produce and
Speaker 1: get them a record deal and least an album, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Hey artist. Yeah, I mean look at the babies, dude, justice, Like,
Speaker 1: because one of those that goes is gonna be worth
Speaker 1: fifty one hundred fucking placements. That's crazy. Are you currently
Speaker 1: grooming any artists under under under Scott's stortres? I mean
Speaker 1: we intend to at some point. But I'm trying to
Speaker 1: groom myself as the artist with features. It's a different thing,
Speaker 1: totally totally different. Yeah, I think you know the music
Speaker 1: I want to hear. Shout out to my guy Dubie.
Speaker 1: I heard you got you and doubIe did a little uh,
Speaker 1: a little uh. I don't know EP or something have you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to Doobie Man. Can I smoke cigarette? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: We got cigarettes? Bag. This guy's got. This guy, Casey
Speaker 1: is the cigarette. God. Thank this guy's a walking fucking cigarette.
Speaker 1: That's all. He fucking doesn't smoke. God bless him. I
Speaker 1: love him. We too. Yeah, yeah, I'd love to smoke
Speaker 1: for radio, you know, so you records your new singles
Speaker 1: out right now? Yeah, you'll see at the end of
Speaker 1: this we're gonna do You'll see at the end of this,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a two minute radio joint. It'll be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I want to get some of it phone. I want
Speaker 1: to set to the president, mister Weaver, mister Weaver, ah man,
Speaker 1: all right, we're good. Light up that goddamn that cigarette.
Speaker 1: But but let's get to it pretty much, yo, you
Speaker 1: and R Kelly working together? What was that session? Like
Speaker 1: that session was another one of those situations where Record
Speaker 1: didn't where it was supposed to go. I should have
Speaker 1: went to someone else. No, watch this, I forget the
Speaker 1: name of the goddamn group. I don't remember the name
Speaker 1: of the group. But do you remember how they were
Speaker 1: signed to some group for something for like like Adie Rex.
Speaker 1: Do you remember who they were signed to? I don't
Speaker 1: remember that either. All right, so I can find out
Speaker 1: this information. I'm gonna talk to my my my ex
Speaker 1: manager back in the day, my boy Derek. But I could.
Speaker 1: I sold them to Beat and they wanted to get
Speaker 1: an R. Kelly feature, and they got an R. Kelly
Speaker 1: feature and R Kelly said, hold up, I want this
Speaker 1: and I don't. You guys are not getting on it.
Speaker 1: So he paid them to get off, to get off, damn,
Speaker 1: and he got plays only and then we threw the
Speaker 1: game on there. The game was new Hey man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So you weren't even in the session with cows Nah.
Speaker 1: It was something that like the people who bought the
Speaker 1: Beat at the Short Club in Miami one time New
Speaker 1: Year's like it was he was there. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is he? You know? It is what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say is that I'm not talking about him on
Speaker 1: a social level at all, but on a social level,
Speaker 1: on a musical level, he's a genius, one of the
Speaker 1: greatest artists ever. That dude is. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to see the motherfucking versus battle R Kelly and Usher
Speaker 1: and nobody's standing out. Fucking he destroyed that. No, he
Speaker 1: destroyed everyone, destroy everybody. I agree, Unfortunately, Like you said,
Speaker 1: it's like I think that at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're allowed well you know, you're allowed to. I think
Speaker 1: you're allowed to separate art from the person. Man, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense, you know, like ship, I love R
Speaker 1: Kelly as music. I don't love him man, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know that motherfucker. But his music was just
Speaker 1: twelve play bro like songs that make your hair stand up,
Speaker 1: like man, one hundred percent, bro Yo, you're working, uh,
Speaker 1: you working with And the Massacre Massacre, I always feel
Speaker 1: like doesn't get his just due for how fucking incredible
Speaker 1: that album was. I think that get Richard that train
Speaker 1: at such high, you know, expectations, it was almost impossible
Speaker 1: to follow it up. But I mean, I think it
Speaker 1: was a matter of like, just like anything else, the
Speaker 1: evolution of what you know, what he was doing. But
Speaker 1: talk about like you and fifties chemistry, because there was
Speaker 1: some chemistry there. I mean, you guys made some classic
Speaker 1: music and that was the comfort zone. There was a
Speaker 1: comfort zone with him. And I'm gonna tell you one
Speaker 1: of the first reasons why is you know, Dre had
Speaker 1: me in his studio and he's seen me in Dre's studio,
Speaker 1: so there's a comfort zone. Like you know, there's a
Speaker 1: certain quality and a bar set by Dre. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in there if I wasn't supposed to be
Speaker 1: in there. So he had he was comfortable with me
Speaker 1: in my opinion and music and what I would submit
Speaker 1: because he knew you wouldn't be there if Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he knew my like my vision is cool, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like people always second guests, especially in
Speaker 1: that time, because it's not like now where everything I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fucking shit on shit, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that sounds like a lot to say.
Speaker 1: Everything is the same drum patterns list like we were making.
Speaker 1: Every song was its own thing. Are you artistically frustrated
Speaker 1: when you hear some of this ship? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we all fucking lock into the trap bubble
Speaker 1: and fucking the new drum sounds and this and that.
Speaker 1: But bro, I was fucking putting up kicks like crazy shit,
Speaker 1: like if you listen to like the lean back drums, Like,
Speaker 1: where were you getting your drums from? Because I was,
Speaker 1: did you because I remember remember Kanye said that he
Speaker 1: he would steal drums from a lot of Doctor Dre
Speaker 1: ship listen, we would, yeah, and then he would flip
Speaker 1: them and do them and filter them, and so would
Speaker 1: you would Did you ever take any drums from Dre?
Speaker 1: Did you ever give you any drums? A shiploaded drums?
Speaker 1: I got drums from Timberland I got are those drums?
Speaker 1: You still use it? Use it as day? No? No, no.
Speaker 1: I had this zip disc at that time. Was that
Speaker 1: we were using the zip disc with our our MPs,
Speaker 1: you know the MP three thousand, of the MP two thousand,
Speaker 1: and the motherfucking disc I had with all that ship
Speaker 1: on there was going I could get it again. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure certain ones are still very essential.
Speaker 1: But you know, the sonics changed. Did you work on
Speaker 1: any iteration of detox at all? Or was that kind
Speaker 1: of the error in which you and Dre weren't close anymore.
Speaker 1: We had we've had moments and working you know at
Speaker 1: some point because I know there's like a million iterations
Speaker 1: of those faults, you know, I don't think he ever
Speaker 1: was working specifically on like he would make music and
Speaker 1: it's something really he gravitated towards it. Then I'm sure
Speaker 1: he probably would have wanted to keep it for that
Speaker 1: or for whatever. But you know, that's why do you
Speaker 1: think you and jay Z never had a real moment
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, the way Jay had his moments
Speaker 1: with Primo and had his moments with Timberland, Like why
Speaker 1: do you think jay Z and the Scott Storts train
Speaker 1: never I feel like there were certain loyalties that were
Speaker 1: established to him and other producers that you know, I
Speaker 1: was not part of, and they earned that and they
Speaker 1: from growing with him from the beginning, And you know,
Speaker 1: was that is that like a thing like because if
Speaker 1: you think of like, who do we think of Hope,
Speaker 1: Like when we think of Hope, we think of Primo
Speaker 1: to then later on just plaze Kanye like so that
Speaker 1: was like a Swiss Oh my god, him and Swiss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was on the rough Riders something. But like back
Speaker 1: then that that was the thing. Like, I mean, it
Speaker 1: definitely happened with the Neptunes. I feel like at some point,
Speaker 1: like with a lot of artists, you would be like
Speaker 1: Neptune's are always going to be on as a certain
Speaker 1: soul album, But like, who did did you have that
Speaker 1: with anybody? That? I mean I had that. I had
Speaker 1: that with Fat Joe. You know, we made we kept
Speaker 1: you know, every time we would do something. You know,
Speaker 1: certain people. Hey man, let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: don't remember a song ever being bigger than Lean back
Speaker 1: when I was a kid during that summer that ship
Speaker 1: was I heard it was going crazy. I wasn't there
Speaker 1: at Summer jam in New York. It was a problem. Yo.
Speaker 1: That and that beat? Like yo man, what like I
Speaker 1: think that if you just take away the lyrics. That's
Speaker 1: one thing too about these beat battles. That's frustrating because
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, man, who can really just play
Speaker 1: beats and be like, oh shit, that's one of them beats?
Speaker 1: Stand up? Oh my god, what do you think is
Speaker 1: your hardest beat? Like? What's your beat? That? Like, that's
Speaker 1: probably one of them. You know. Megan Ring was a
Speaker 1: good one just as a beat. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of them that are just yeah, exhibits bets. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that was his first single on off for Restless right,
Speaker 1: very amazing. I'm shot at the exhibit. Oh look, Scott Man,
Speaker 1: you're a fucking legend. Hopefully we'll get the album before
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, for sure. Are you going to be doing?
Speaker 1: I know for a while there I would see you
Speaker 1: like going to playing the keys live and places and shit,
Speaker 1: you know what. I feel like you could have a
Speaker 1: Vegas residency. Actually, after going through being uh, you know,
Speaker 1: socially distanced and just at the house so much, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of inspired to go and you know, hit the road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not hit the road, but do some specific dates and
Speaker 1: some specific place I saw, like when you came out
Speaker 1: with Russ. That ship was amazing. You know, support the
Speaker 1: record and and you know, just catch that wave for
Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, man, listen, I remember what what show
Speaker 1: did he come out with Russ? It was out here
Speaker 1: Stable Center. Yeah, that ship is crazy. That was a
Speaker 1: vibe man, shout out to Russ. I'm sure you guys
Speaker 1: got I'm sure you guys got more music coming. I mean,
Speaker 1: we just put one out which record? Three am oh
Speaker 1: that you fire? A shout out to Abadan too. We
Speaker 1: shout out Abadan. Abdon is uh at the studio? A
Speaker 1: wonderful man from the Netherlands is that yeah, man out
Speaker 1: shout out to the Netherlands and shout out to you man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for coming through. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: hear the fucking album.