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Speaker 1: College Football Apostles, Week thirteen. We are excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you some game picks and previews and

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Speaker 1: talk about all that and of course the biggest things

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Speaker 1: in college football this week. James Franklin now has a

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Speaker 1: new job. People are wanting and complaining about the college

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Speaker 1: football playoff. Ralph is turned in to get off my

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Speaker 1: long guy. Nicole Arback has stirred up some dirt. We

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Speaker 1: got college football quarterbacks testing. The transfer portal is Sam

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Speaker 1: Levitt going. Fans are mad. They want to know the truth,

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Speaker 1: So we got to bring you the truth. And you, guys,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a

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Speaker 1: friend about the Unafraid Show. Ralph. This is our first

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Speaker 1: show at twenty five thousand subscribers. Twenty five thousand. That's

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Speaker 1: more not just the city, but the world, Craig.

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Speaker 2: That's more people in the county where I'm from.

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Speaker 1: The whole county two thousand, five hundred twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: and thirty nine at this moment.

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Speaker 2: That is like more more people than the entire county

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Speaker 2: where I come from. Uh, and it's okay to misspeak

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Speaker 2: on numbers. I don't know if you saw your your boy.

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Speaker 2: Stephen A said that Pardon the Interruption has been the

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Speaker 2: highest rated show on ESPN for the last twenty decades.

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Speaker 1: Yes, twenty decades. I saw it. I was like, that's

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Speaker 1: that's two hundred years.

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Speaker 2: I was just imagining Mike Wilbon in like a powdered wig.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, right Sortgeiser is in DC, right, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't could happen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So let's start today as we always

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Speaker 1: start best thing from last week, and for me, I'll

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Speaker 1: start out first is I was so happy to be

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Speaker 1: like I told you so. I told you so. I

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Speaker 1: told everybody Oklahoma was gonna beat Alabama and that Georgia

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Speaker 1: was going to scull drug Texas. Skull drag Texas. Those

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Speaker 1: were two of the easiest games to pick of the

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Speaker 1: entire year. Ralph, I am, and we're getting good, we're

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Speaker 1: getting upsets. We're starting to get to that time where

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Speaker 1: you know, crazy results start to happen. I'm just hoping

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Speaker 1: that my Ducks are not part of the crazy results. Like, like,

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Speaker 1: my heart can't take it. And that's honestly, the thing

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Speaker 1: that may college football so amazing is one minute you

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Speaker 1: could never feel more alive and then the next minute

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Speaker 1: you want to die. Is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. You described all of college football. I

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Speaker 2: do a lot of laughing as well. Just college football

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Speaker 2: is the funniest sport in the entire world, as the

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Speaker 2: funniest people in the entire world doing the absolute funniest things,

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Speaker 2: and if it doesn't affect me, I usually have the

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Speaker 2: ability to laugh at sometimes, though sometimes the thing other

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Speaker 2: I got a weird one from last weekend, a really

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Speaker 2: weird one. It won't surprise you because you know me.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things I've been doing for you

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Speaker 2: for Unafraid Show is monitoring some of these lower level

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Speaker 2: players that could be our next big time SEC college

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Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that drops two Yeah, that video

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Speaker 2: So two of the players that we have been collectively

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Speaker 2: a matchup of a team that was three and seven

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Speaker 1: It was the most fun I've had.

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Speaker 2: I got to watch Central Arkansas play at Southern Utah

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Speaker 2: And then Southern Utah has a running back named Joshua

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Speaker 2: Joshua Died a kid who went to UTEP and sat

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Speaker 2: So I got to watch these two guys go head

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Speaker 2: and he's got this is my favorite stat. He left

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Speaker 1: So they might want him back. Somebody might want him.

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Speaker 2: But shout out to land and streamers, Joshua Die, make

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Speaker 1: That is exciting. That is exciting. And touchdowns come at

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Speaker 1: Man, sorry for it, all right. The next thing that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Southern believe it or not, Southern Utah

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Speaker 1: upset at Pete Nikos's reporting last year? Were there any

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Speaker 2: That, it went the way Pete Nick Nako said, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that there's a dispute over if it happened the

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Speaker 2: Ends up being the end result, people don't get too

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Speaker 2: Right now, right yeah, And I think Alonzo barrett Is

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Speaker 2: And he looked like a star. So that I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think that that's, you know, noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: And so what's going on in college football? So let's

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Speaker 1: address this Sam Levit thing. So Nakos and on three

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Speaker 1: essentially said that they didn't that what that he it

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Speaker 2: That his camp is shopping him to other teams quote

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Speaker 2: most important things. He's being shopped by his camp and

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Speaker 2: The protest from his brother.

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Speaker 1: Who is his representative.

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Speaker 2: His brother down who played six years in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: He posted a text message saying that he told Pete Nacos,

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Speaker 2: why would you report? That that's not where things are

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Speaker 2: that's created some conflict between the Arizona State fan base

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Speaker 1: So let's examine what was said in those texts, because

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Speaker 1: that's not where we're at right now. In terms of

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Speaker 1: because these contracts are not public, so players don't have

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Speaker 1: Arizona state, since let's talk about this. Three million dollars

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Speaker 1: two and a half. He may be willing to like players,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Sam in particular. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: I'm just using him as an example. A player may say,

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Speaker 1: built me to this point. They believe in me. I'm

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Speaker 1: not leaving over half million dollars because I gotta move.

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Speaker 1: It's not comfortable, like it's a lot of stuff I

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Speaker 1: at a little bit of a discount. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: not what this from what I've asked about, From what

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Speaker 1: i'm this doesn't feel like where we are with Sam

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Speaker 1: Levit bro that it's not a leverage play. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: thought initially that it was a leverage play, but after

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Speaker 1: also Arizona State seems like they're making contingency plans.

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Speaker 2: And George, you understand this better than anyone, you know,

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Speaker 2: that it feels like the Levitt family has gone outside

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Speaker 2: what made the athletic and on three.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, their leg out on the curb like a yeah.

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Speaker 2: And because what is the point of even reporting this?

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Speaker 1: Levit like it's it's like that uh that uh that

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting is like, so they power through these denials.

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Speaker 2: And I'm a reasonable person who wants Sam Levitt to

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Speaker 2: I think Sam Levitt's camp has gone outside the bounds

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Speaker 2: of what is It's hard to say traditional because we're

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Speaker 2: which only would have happened if his family went about

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Speaker 1: It could have been. Yep.

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Speaker 2: And you saw all the comments of people saying this

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Speaker 1: Do you agree? Don't?

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Speaker 2: I don't like look at this and say, oh, this

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Speaker 1: Yep, there you go. And then also, they're not being

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Speaker 2: But let's let's make it a hypothetical. Let's call it

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Speaker 2: Well wow, So to down leave it interesting? So you

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Speaker 2: You got this relative, how would you you go about it?

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Speaker 2: It's the middle of the season, your relative, your brother

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Speaker 1: Obviously, if reporting is true, there's been a rift that's

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Speaker 1: he's a little abrasive. Right, That's that's fair to say, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Not in a in a can we weaponize this for

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Speaker 1: If that makes yeah, correct that that if you focus it,

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Speaker 1: Once people start to get frustrated with the people around them,

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Speaker 2: It's even easier for the people in your life to

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Speaker 2: he shows up late, he does, Man, it don't matter.

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Speaker 1: Man, he's a good kid. He'll work through it, Like

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Speaker 2: It's like yeah, or or even more common, they're getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Sam Levitt, if you've ever watched him play, I

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like, yeah, the O line

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Speaker 2: That's you know, all of this makes complete sense to me.

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Speaker 2: I just wish it wasn't happening.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if Sam Levitt does leave, where do you

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Speaker 2: Gosh? I don't think he would go anywhere. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: So that cuts it down to about twenty schools. Right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah so, but because you because you get a chance

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like in an ideal world if I was

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Speaker 2: But it's but do they want you? And and that's

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Speaker 2: I look and say, okay, what's a quarterback development conference

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Speaker 2: that's going to make three straight quarterbacks that played their

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Speaker 2: to have NFL careers. That would be where I go.

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Speaker 2: If it's just the most money in the best o line,

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Speaker 2: the monster that's going to get have everybody bidding on him?

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00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: Out of old dominion? There's rumors right now, George, that

436
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: that that that maybe Oregon would want him if if

437
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 2: Dante Moore decided to go to the league, But who's

438
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: going to take him knowing he's not going to play

439
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: in the spring?

440
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: See, now that is a old another can can of worms,

441
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: because you got that going on, And then that's kind

442
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: of the next level of this convert conversation is that

443
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: forget Sam sam Levitt, Let's look at the other places

444
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: that are gonna need quarterbacks. Okay, if you're Florida, are

445
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: you bringing back dj Lagway's your guaranteed starter or do

446
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: you let him go or do you, you know, bring

447
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: him back in a quarterback competition. He doesn't feel like

448
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: the kind of kid that's gonna be up for being

449
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: in a quarterback competition. To me, so Florida's gonna need

450
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: a court quarterback. I can't hear you, Ralph Lsu they're

451
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: gonna need a quarterback because it doesn't feel like that

452
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: they're sold on Michael van van Buren like he may

453
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: be the guy, but I think at best they end

454
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: up in a quarterback competition. You got Tennessee is going

455
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: to be in the market for a quarterback. I know

456
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: that they got the fabian Faison Brandon coming in, but

457
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: you can't depend on a true freshman to be your

458
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: starter in the Oklahoma I'm sorry, old miss. They're gonna

459
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. Yeah, Indiana's gonna need a quarterback. Uh,

460
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: there's a Miami needs. Miami is gonna need a quarterback.

461
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt might be able to flip Jared Curtis because he

462
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: might be able to start. Illinois gets a quarterback. Hell,

463
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Memphis needs a quarterback. Uh, Clemson, Louisville, Florida State, Georgia,

464
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you're forgetting.

465
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: You're forgetting a college football playoff team that has a

466
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: little bit of money and is going to be and

467
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: sounds like they're going to need a quarterback as well.

468
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Oh Texas Tech ari Arizona and then and

469
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: then look at look at Texas Tech. They like the kid,

470
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: what's his name? The backup the freshman do when it's

471
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: hurt right now? Will Hammon? Yeah, they love Will Hammond.

472
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: He is out for the He is out until at

473
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: least fall camp, and he might even be limited in

474
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: fall camp. So what do you do if you're Texas Tech? Like,

475
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: we love the kid, but our starter won't be available

476
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: during spring ball, so we can't fully no, no, and

477
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: then what happens if he has a setback for a month? Yeah,

478
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: then what and then he's limited the misses Paul Camp

479
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to have a good season. No, absolutely

480
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: not really, So this is gonna be real tricky for

481
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I think.

482
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Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of good quarterbacks out there.

483
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: There's one in the state of Arizona. At NAU. You

484
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: saw him play, Ty Pennington. Not the home improvement type Pennington,

485
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback type. Pennington came from Pittsburgh State. He's already

486
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: leveled up once and he looks like he's got elite

487
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: pocket presence. You know, there's gonna be options people. I

488
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: think people are gonna want to play for Cannon Dillingham.

489
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: People are also gonna want to play for money, so

490
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: anybody who has resources.

491
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

492
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm not super worried about Arizona State. I wish this

493
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: wasn't happening. It is indicative of kind of like the

494
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: overall state of things, and I think a lot of

495
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: people are gonna be mad. But the first thing that's

496
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: gonna happen after you get mad is you're gonna try

497
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: to steal somebody else's quarterback. You're gonna forget about that anger,

498
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna make somebody else feel that way.

499
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: So I have best of luck to everybody involved. I

500
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: do hope the kid gets paid, and I hope that

501
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: he gets healthy, and I hope that he ends up

502
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: in the best situation for him. But I think this

503
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: is pretty sloppy the way that all this has gone down,

504
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: and his reputation is unnecessarily taking a hit with home

505
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: fans who entered the year believing that he'd be gone

506
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: in the NFL Draft anyway, so they weren't counting on

507
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: having him back. But they don't want to be given

508
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: the middle finger on the way out the door. Damn

509
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: the middle finger though, in season negotiations while you're still

510
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: in the hunt for the Big twelve championship is a

511
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: middle finger.

512
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Oh. Speaking of that, let's talk about what's going on

513
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: over there at Ole Miss oh Miss. Their head coach

514
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin. He is clearly in negotiations with other teams.

515
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: The Man family. His family went to Gainesville and then

516
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: to baton Rouge his what that's on? Rules? What family?

517
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: No?

518
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: He took his are you sure, that's how it's pronounced.

519
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh, it's his family. Family, Yes, family, he took his family.

520
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: He took his family. He took his family to Gainesville

521
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: and then he took his family baton ruse and it's

522
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: just crazy, man. That the way that old misses in

523
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: the middle of a college football playoff hunt. They are

524
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: ten and one. All you gotta do is win the

525
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: egg Bowl and you are one hundred percent the college

526
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: football playoff. Just win the egg Ball, lose the egg Ball,

527
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: you might be out Lane Kippen is out here gallivanton,

528
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: his family out there, like you gotta be more discreet

529
00:32:53,920 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: about this. He's still tweeting old Miss fans like like

530
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: business as usual. If I were an LSU fan, I

531
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: would be about to the point where I'm like, bro,

532
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't care if you stay or go, just just

533
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't even care anymore. So all the goodwill that

534
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: he built up, he may have just just balled it

535
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: up and thrown it in the trash.

536
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: You mean with old Ole Miss fans. Yes, I think

537
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: there's from an entertainment perspective, gas lighting is I don't know,

538
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: maybe some people get an enjoyment out of it, but

539
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: if it's ever like happened to you and yeah, I

540
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: mean you've got an Oregon helmet behind.

541
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: You, so it has happened to you a couple of times.

542
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: It's it's horrible, Like the only like gas lighting should

543
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: stop after you after you're a baby sitting in a

544
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: high chair and you got an adult plane got your nose,

545
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: that's the last time that it's really of any use

546
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: to you. Lane Kiffen is the most online coach in America.

547
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: He is the.

548
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: Most aware of what the temperature is and what people

549
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: are talking about in America. And we know this because

550
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: he participates in the talk. He loves to kick the

551
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: hornet's nest. He does it for the same reason that

552
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant does. It get gets you a little adrenaline rush,

553
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: and like there's part of that that I respect, the

554
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: gamesmanship I respect, but the whole like who me like

555
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: that whole thing that he's like that is it?

556
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: It's absurd.

557
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: It's hard to buy he's playing it, I guess the

558
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 2: way that everybody has always played it in the past,

559
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: and he's played it in the past. But I, like

560
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: I told you before, George, if the entire goal is

561
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen to have the nation talk about Lane Kiffen

562
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: participating in this documentary, dragging out the fact that he's

563
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: flirting with all these different schools. Then let's let's actually

564
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: talk about Lane Kiffen. Let's talk about having the number

565
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: one rush defense in America in twenty twenty four and

566
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: you being an offensive guy and missing the college football playoff.

567
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: How you have the number one rush defense in America

568
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: and you're an offensive guru and at the end of

569
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: the day, your offense wasn't enough to get it done

570
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: against Kentucky to the point where you had to complain

571
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: that the entire system was broken because it didn't include

572
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: little old you. We talk about how great it is

573
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: that he brought his family back together, brought them back

574
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: together from what.

575
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: From himself.

576
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: We want to talk about University of Tennessee coming to

577
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: terms and forgiving Lane Kiffen, forgiving him for what, for

578
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: what he did?

579
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, what we want to.

580
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: Talk about the time he spent with Nick Saban, the

581
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: time he spent with Nick Saban, having Nick say even

582
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: saying do what say.

583
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: That ith that he would fight, that he was willing

584
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: to fire Jimmy Sexton, I think, for for getting him

585
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: to hire that dude.

586
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: I think that he is an incredible collector of talent,

587
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: and I think he is a good, very good coach,

588
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: top ten coach in the country. But this is what

589
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: you get with him. Yeah, constant weirdness, drama, all to

590
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: have people saying your name. And no one has ever

591
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: said Monty was a bad or inattentive father. So like

592
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: this desire for attention, who knows.

593
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: Where it comes from. Yes, And it's funny because old

594
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: miss fans are like, oh yeah if uh yeah, he

595
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: keeps tweeting like like this, so so so everything is fine.

596
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's go through because I've been through this

597
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: many many times. Okay, that'd be the last. There's many

598
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: many caught me off guard. Yes, so so let's let's

599
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: try this on for size. Okay, all right, let me

600
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: let me pull it up. I hope you can hear this,

601
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Ralph when I when I pull it up. So here

602
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: is what Oregon coaches have sounded like in the past.

603
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: Who left.

604
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: And fans keep wondering because there's never been definitive yes

605
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: or no from you, And so will you be the

606
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: coach here next year?

607
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 5: He said out Why wouldn't that be I'm football coach.

608
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys act like you're trying to get here.

609
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Hold on, God, God dag all right, hold on, hold on?

610
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I be? That sounds familiar. Hold On, I'm

611
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: gonna put it here. Hold on. So so it's not

612
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: in the thing.

613
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Uh, that sounded incredibly familiar.

614
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 4: We keep asking and fans keep wondering because there's never

615
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: been definitive yes or no from you.

616
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: So will you be the coach here next year? He

617
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: said that, why would that be?

618
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: I'm football coach. I mean, you guys act me like

619
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: you're trying to get me out of here. So I

620
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 5: feel thought we're better than that. Why wouldn't that?

621
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Becky? With the Orgony and Mario.

622
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: Much of the hours leading up to the game was

623
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: spent on reports regarding your future. Do you intend to

624
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: sign a contract extension of Oregon or will you accept

625
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: the Miami job they've offered?

626
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know what.

627
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: And when you say someone's offered, I haven't talked to anybody.

628
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: So let's not create narratives. Okay, as we sit here

629
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: in this press conference, So Oregon is working on some

630
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: stuff for me, and that's what I have right now.

631
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: And that's the extent of that conversation that.

632
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Everybody else wants.

633
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 6: That's because of what our players are, coaches, the support

634
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: that exists here in Oregon have created. I think I've

635
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 6: been really really clear here since day one. Everything I

636
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: want exists right here. I'm not going anywhere. There's zero

637
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 6: chance that I would be coaching somewhere else. I've got

638
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 6: unfinished business here. There's a lot that I want to

639
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 6: accomplish here at Oregon. My number one priority is being

640
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: elite here in Oregon.

641
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: And so, Ralph, could you hear all those Oh yeah,

642
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: I almost didn't have to. I remember them. They're burned

643
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: into my brain.

644
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Why would not be? That's the greatest thing me, Like, honey, honey,

645
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: are you coming home tonight? Why would not come home?

646
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, put putting it back on everybody else, Like,

647
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: so answer the question. That's a question. They're asking you

648
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: a question as a media member they have are you

649
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: asking me? I'm asking you, Yeah, because you've never shown

650
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: a multi year level commitment to anything in your entire life, Lane,

651
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Speaker 2: and you have an entire fan base, blood, sweat, tears,

652
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: resources wondering if you're going to be here next year,

653
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: not to mention players' families, do they matter to you?

654
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Or does this little game matter more you? All you

655
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: do is answer a question with a question. You get

656
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: If somebody's bullshitting you.

657
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: You get aggressive.

658
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: That's the only And I appreciate the media members always

659
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: trying to find the best phrasing to try to get

660
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: somebody who's greased up like a pig to not be

661
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: able to wiggle out. But they walked into that press

662
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 2: conference greased up, ready to get out of anything. It's

663
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: okay as a media member at that point if they

664
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Speaker 2: ask you a question back to be like, oh so

665
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Speaker 2: we're lying.

666
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're lying right now. Because here here's the thing.

667
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Chrystal Ball sat up there and said, what are you

668
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: a mean? Bruh? You had just flown down to Miami,

669
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: and yes, your mom was sick, but you was also

670
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: doing doing business down there. We can't sit here and

671
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: act like that that's not true, or that Willie Tagger

672
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: wasn't at Tyler Shuck's house taking taking phone calls from

673
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Florida State, like stop it, bro it's and I understand

674
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: the precarious position it puts you in when you haven't

675
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: fully accepted it and they're still negotiating terms. You're kind

676
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: of want half in, one for in, one for out.

677
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: But an old missus case, what are you supposed to do?

678
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Because if he leaves and then he went on Pat

679
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: McAfee's show, everything's fine. There's no ultimatum. There has to

680
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: be an ultimatum. Common sense tells you that because if

681
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: if Lane's leaving, what does old miss have to do?

682
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: Take care of old Miss? They got to replace him,

683
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: don't they want to do? Wait until everybody else has

684
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: their head coach first. Yeah, and and then you got

685
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: Alex Golish doing the same thing at us self. But

686
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: it's different because he's at us self. So people can

687
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: accept you waiting to figure out what's going on everywhere else,

688
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: to figure out where where you're gonna go. If you're

689
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: at us self, they can't accept that when you're at

690
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: a premier place, just make a decision and go with it.

691
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: It's it's it's frus it's got to be frustrating for him.

692
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: I would be highly frustrated.

693
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: If he leaves on Miss. I'm gonna be mad for

694
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: the dumbest reason. I've already gone through this, and so

695
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: have you. You've been Kenny Dillingham's number one public defender.

696
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: We've already gone through this with Arkansas fans, Auburn fans,

697
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: LSU fans, and Florida fans, and if Lane Kiffin Lee's

698
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to do it with Old Miss fans too.

699
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: No, you cannot have k Dillingham right now. Maybe yes,

700
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe right, but not today. Yes, not today. Today's not today.

701
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: I've told I think I told you this privately. I

702
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: don't know if I said it on here, but like

703
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: it puts me in the weirdest position because obviously, like

704
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, I watched Kenny Dillingham coach for a long time.

705
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: When you and I started this podcast, he was at

706
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: Florida State, and you know, you and I would have

707
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: conversations about him. Then he ended up at Oregon with

708
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning and you got to know, you know, what

709
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: he's about and everything like that, and you've had the

710
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Speaker 2: ability to interview him a couple of times. In a

711
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: typical situation, I have no problem arguing online with somebody

712
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: who says something bad about Kenny Dillingham. But in the

713
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: last couple of months, I've had to watch people argue

714
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: online about whether Kenny Dillingham would be a good hire

715
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: or not. And so you'll have like an LSU fan

716
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: be like he's young and he hasn't done anything, and

717
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: like I want to in those situations, typically I would

718
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: want to interject and be like, actually, here's his resume,

719
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: and hey, here's how improbable it was. But in every

720
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: situation of anybody saying anything bad about Kenny dilling him,

721
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: I just gotta let it go. I gotta let people

722
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 2: believe in fact, like I gotta like amplify, I gotta

723
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: favorite it. I'm like my favorites have just been people

724
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: saying terrible things about.

725
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Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham in the last couple of weeks.

726
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 2: Just be like, yeah, maybe you're right, maybe he can't

727
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: get it done in the SEC we should probably look

728
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: at John Sumraw.

729
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of things, let's get on to the

730
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Speaker 1: games this week, Ralph. So we have college football games

731
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Speaker 1: this week, and it is week thirteen. We are going

732
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Speaker 1: to be talking about the top games and what we

733
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Speaker 1: think about them and everything in between. This schedule is

734
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Speaker 1: a little bit weird. So ordinarily I do this on

735
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Tuesdays and then you guys put it put it up,

736
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: and I mean and you guys watch it and everything else.

737
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: So we're doing things a little bit different this week,

738
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Speaker 1: in particular because some life events have happened. So let's

739
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: get to the biggest game of the entire week, Rouph,

740
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: we got USC versus Oregon. This is a game that

741
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: is in Eugene, Oregon. It is between these two teams

742
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: who are both really good. See look, you see what

743
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: I just did right right there. Just put it right

744
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: in between there so everybody can see twelve thirty in Eugene,

745
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: nine and one versus eight and two. USC is trying

746
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: to go to the college football playoff. Oregon is trying

747
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: to go to the college football playoffs. This spread has

748
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: been all over the place. It has been as high

749
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: as ten and a half. Think it's still sitting at

750
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Speaker 1: nine and a half. Now, where's what say you, Ralph?

751
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Speaker 1: I like Oregon.

752
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: And one of the biggest reasons why is I am

753
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: not a d percent sure. Elijah Page is fully healthy

754
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: and he is somebody who monstrous size left tackle for USC.

755
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: He got banged up in that Iowa game. He's been

756
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: practicing in like giant double knee braces, and he is

757
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: one of the better pass protectors in college football.

758
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: This year, But is is.

759
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: He because they're gonna need to throw I don't, I don't.

760
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: I know that USC has had a renewed commitment to

761
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: running this year, and they've done a pretty good job.

762
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: They're down to their third string running back, but I

763
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: genuinely wonder if they have the type of commitment it

764
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: takes to be patient and try to run against this

765
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Speaker 2: Oregon defense that is also very improved against the past.

766
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: So you kind of got to pick your poison. But

767
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: if Elijah Page isn't fully healthy and he's not optimal

768
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: as a as a pass blocker, then you're then I

769
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: think you're just in a little bit extra trouble. So

770
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Speaker 2: I liked Oregon anyway. The key factor for me is

771
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: USC maybe not being healthy on the offensive line, because

772
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Speaker 2: I think these USC wide receivers could probably do some

773
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Speaker 2: damage even in contested situations. But are we even gonna

774
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Speaker 2: be able to Is he gonna be able to get

775
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get passes off?

776
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think this game is gonna come down to that.

777
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: But also about eight plays in the game because Mayaba

778
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: puts the ball in danger right, Like, there are some

779
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: throws where you're like, does he have a computer and

780
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: advocates in his in his head where the perfect arc

781
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: the ball fits, has enough time to catch it, gain control,

782
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Speaker 1: and then get a hit. But then you say, Okay,

783
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: that worked against Illinois, that worked against Iowa, but it

784
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Speaker 1: was tighter against Iowa. Oregon's secondary is the number one

785
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: in the country. Is that a fraction of a millisecond?

786
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: Is that now gone? You know what I mean? Where

787
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: that turns into a breakup or a pick. There's gonna

788
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: be about eight plays. There's gonna be some third and

789
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: longs that USC will either get off the field or

790
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: won't get off the field. That's gonna be the difference

791
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: in this being a tightly contested game and a blowout

792
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: because USC is gonna have trouble stopping Oregon from running

793
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: the football. This game feels a lot like the Notre

794
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: Dame game to me, except the weather's gonna be better

795
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: and because it shouldn't be raining at all. Yeah, so

796
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Speaker 1: I think that that's gonna be a significant thing.

797
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Speaker 2: Do you think this puts Notre Dame fans in the

798
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: weird position of having to root for USC?

799
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Speaker 5: Damn?

800
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Speaker 1: Possibly? Possibly because if USC wins, then that actually puts

801
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame in a position where they can't really jump

802
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: over Notre Dame like that kind of boxes. Note Notre

803
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: Dame in on the inside. Mm hmmm, because they got

804
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: Stanford and somebody else left.

805
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Speaker 2: I think this is a playoff game for USC. I

806
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 2: think this is this is the most important game. They've

807
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: had a lot of important games this season, but this

808
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: is the most important game that they've played in them.

809
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Speaker 1: So this is the most important game in the program

810
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Speaker 1: in a long time. Like this is outside of the

811
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: Like you got to go back to the what the

812
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: twenty three Pac twelve Championship when they were playing against

813
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: Utah where they probably would have gone to the College

814
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: Football playoffs had they won, Like, this is the most

815
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Speaker 1: important game since then because that was the twenty two Yeah,

816
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: that was a twenty two to twenty three season, I think, Yeah,

817
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Speaker 1: I believe because that was Caleb Williams first season there. Yeah,

818
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: can we it was a twin three season?

819
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Speaker 2: Can we get this graphic off the screen?

820
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

821
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm struggling with the words big ten next to

822
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Speaker 2: a important USC.

823
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: Oh you're silly. I'm not enjoying myself right now. Bro.

824
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'll get it off. I appreciate.

825
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Speaker 2: It's just it's you know, it's fine if you if

826
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Speaker 2: you got an ex who has a photo of her

827
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Speaker 2: and her new husband up in their home, but it

828
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be up in your home. I don't

829
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: like seeing the big ten next to those names when

830
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Speaker 2: this is an important November football game between the the

831
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Speaker 2: you know, the schools that Larry Scott killed off. But

832
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Speaker 2: it is, I mean, it is kind of a cool

833
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: testament to the fact that, like the Pac twelve is

834
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: not what you guys nationally thought it was. Yep, just

835
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: because we beat up on each other doesn't mean you

836
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Speaker 2: can do it.

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Speaker 1: Exit one hundred percent. All right, So we both like

838
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: the Ducks in that game, all right? Next game up,

839
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: Missouri Oklahoma. Missouri has not beaten a like they've not

840
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: beaten the ranked team this year. They their losses are

841
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: to Alabama, Vanderbilt, and Texas A and M all respectable.

842
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: But their wins are against Mississippi in the in the

843
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: SEC Mississippi State. You noticed I didn't say Mississippi, Mississippi,

844
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Speaker 1: UH State, Auburn, South Carolina and that's it. Outside of that,

845
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Speaker 1: they got wins against Central Arkansas, your team, Ralph Kansas

846
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: Louisiana and yeah, and that's it. Oh and you mass

847
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: excuse me. Oklahoma is on the verge of a college

848
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: football playoff. Berth Brent Venables is off the hot seat.

849
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: John Mattier should be back for another year next year.

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00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Oklahoma in this game because their defense

851
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: is fantastic. Missouri's defense is pretty good as well. I

852
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: just don't believe that Missouri is gonna be able to

853
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: score enough points. That's the biggest issue for them because

854
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks are hurt. You had Tommy Locke who started

855
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: the season I think that was who started the season right,

856
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: and he got one pass off and then was out

857
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: for the year. Bopah Bula came in, played pretty well.

858
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: He's out, and now they're starting Matt Zohlers, who's a

859
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: true freshman, and they have not been able to throw

860
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: the ball at a high level with him. He's only

861
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: completing fifty three percent of his is four touchdowns, one pick.

862
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: But they do have a mod Hardy who is I

863
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: think he's leading the nation in yards right now rushing.

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Speaker 2: I did want to throw out I did tweet like

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00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: two weeks into the season, a mod Hardy is this

866
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: year's cam Skataboo. If somebody can perform running backs, not

867
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: a lot to it. If you have somebody who hits

868
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: the hole aggressively at any level and you could create

869
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 2: a whole for him at a higher level, they're gonna

870
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: be themselves and a mod hardy I think was at

871
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: Louisiana last year and now he's leading the whole country

872
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: and rushing. But here's the deal. Oklahoma is one of

873
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: the nastiest run defenses in the entire country, and they

874
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: played better competition than a lot of the teams ahead

875
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 2: of them. They're currently fourth, giving up eighty two point

876
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: two yards a game. If you are one of the

877
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: best run defenses in America and that's all the other

878
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: team has, then I'm going to give the advantage to

879
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: that team, who is also playing at home Missouri. Missouri

880
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: is the James Franklin of the SEC. They are beating

881
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: up on everybody they should and every time they run

882
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: into somebody else that gives them an opportunity to prove

883
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: that that they're more than what they are. They don't win,

884
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: and it's been that way for years, and you know

885
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: you have the added distraction this year. Eli Drinkwitz being

886
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 2: talked about for any number of jobs. So I don't

887
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: think Oklahoma is dealing with any of those distractions. And

888
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: they get to you know, Demond, Yeah, demonic Williams. All

889
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: these nasty d linemen that are dominic. Did I call

890
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: him demonic?

891
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: Whatever?

892
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: He is demonic on that D line. He is demonic

893
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: on that D line. Eighty two rush yards allowed per game.

894
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: Let's go with Oklahoma. Yeah, I'm going to Oklahoma as well.

895
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: I like them minus seven and a half. This feels

896
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: this feels like an easy pick. This feels like a

897
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: harder game against the spread, but for the money line,

898
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: this feels very easy. Oh Oklahoma, all right? The next

899
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: game that we got this coach. They should have taken

900
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: game day away from them last week when when he

901
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: came out and said, I don't care how much we

902
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: lose by they can beat us by one hundred points,

903
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't matter. Well, now you got Georgia

904
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: Tech versus Pitt. This game is a two and a

905
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: half point spread route because Georgia Tech finds a way

906
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: to like like, they find a way to make everything close.

907
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: And Georgia Tech is a two and a half point favorite.

908
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: They have slipped by Boston College, they have slipped by Colorado,

909
00:55:52,400 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: they have slipped by a Duke and Wake Forest, and

910
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: you're just like, bro, one of these games it's gonna

911
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: come back and bite you. It bit them an NC

912
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: State and it definitely can again against Pitt. But I

913
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: don't know if Pitt can turn it back on after

914
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: their coach turned it off last week.

915
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's interesting. That's that is an interesting approach that

916
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, can you can you not actually have that

917
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: game affect you in in that way?

918
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: Hmm? I wonder.

919
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is not that good. They are winning by

920
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: the skin of their teeth every single week.

921
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: Like the game they lost, Haynes King threw for over

922
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: four hundred yards and had over one hundred yards rushing

923
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: and I don't even think he had a turnover through

924
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: for like four touch touchdowns. It was.

925
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia Tech is not in the top one hundred

926
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: in past defense and they also can't stop the run

927
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: so so and Pitt offensively is impressive. Mason Heinschel, You know,

928
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: he didn't look good against Notre Dame, but the two

929
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: previous weeks three hundred and four yards, three touchdowns, four

930
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three yards and three touchdowns and Pitt linebackers,

931
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: which we've talked about. One of the reasons why you

932
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: thought Pitt would be a top four team in the

933
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: ACC going into this year was their linebacking corps as nasty.

934
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: They're also they've just been disgustingly good against the run.

935
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: Not a lot of people realize this Pit's a top

936
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: ten team in the country against the run. And so

937
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: you know, if I'll say this, if Georgia Tech wins

938
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: this game, we don't have to talk about the Heisman anymore. Yeah,

939
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: we don't have to talk about it like it's is

940
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: it the best player in America.

941
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: That has the biggest effect not? Yeah, this is a

942
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: team with no defense, the team with no defense, and

943
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't see it like that. And

944
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: I've talked about Julians saying, like the kid is really,

945
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: really good, but it is hard to really, like, you know,

946
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: equate his impact. So who do you have in this game?

947
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: Two and a half point favorite? Georgia Tech. I'm gonna take.

948
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep rhyme with Tech because I because I

949
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: want more ACC drama. But I mean, well, I sue

950
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: if Pitt wins. That's more ACC drama. So yeah, I.

951
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: Would hammer Pitt, which is what would make a Georgia

952
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: Tech win that much more impressive because it really would

953
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: come down to one guy who doesn't even believe he's

954
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: the guy. Everything he does he kicks credit back to,

955
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: like my Lord and Savior Brent Key. Yeah, so like

956
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: he's the ultimate team humble, competitor, stat stuffer running quarterback.

957
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: He could throw. It's crazy. Georgia Tech terrible defense going

958
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: up against offense that can move the ball in a

959
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: top ten running defense. If Georgia Tech wins this game,

960
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: it'd be fine to me. People start casting votes for,

961
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, maybe not the ACC quarterback they thought they'd

962
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: be casting votes for at the beginning of the year.

963
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: But I play the swapout game. Put anybody else in

964
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: that Georgia Tech situation, would they be ten and one?

965
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, Next game up BYU Cincinnati. Oh, BYU fans,

966
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: here's your opportunity here, buddy, Stop all that crying. Stop

967
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: all the crying, because this is a situation where you

968
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: are a favorite, even though you are on the road.

969
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is a two and a half point dog by US,

970
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: a two and a half point favorite BYU. You want

971
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: to be in the college football playoff, you want all

972
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: of this stuff, prove it.

973
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: I have a vested interest in a certain outcome. So

974
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: what bear Cats? Oh my god, here's gonna States still

975
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: in the running and Texas Tech isn't gonna lose. So

976
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: somebody's got to Uh. Plus big Brandon Soresby fan would

977
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: like to see him. He's had a couple of opportunities

978
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: to shine this year and didn't.

979
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

980
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: And he's he's he's smashed cupcakes. Though this is not

981
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: a cupcake. This is a very very good team.

982
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah that b y U has looked a lot like

983
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech this year. They've been playing through the rain

984
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: drops a little bit, like a lot of close games.

985
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: I do rankings.

986
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: Eating Arizona will dominant. Yeah, that win over Arizona, I

987
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: mean that was what like twelve completions from bear Bachmeyer

988
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: in double overtime. Yeah, it felt like an Arizona loss

989
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: as much as anything else.

990
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly.

991
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: They're okay, just okay against the pass right and they're

992
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: just okay against the run. They have been. They've won

993
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: the games in front of them. That's what's important. They

994
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: smash mouth with LJ. Martin and they don't give too

995
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: much to bear. But I am picking Cincinnati because I

996
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: need it to happen, putting all my energy behind it.

997
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: But I do think by you'd probably come out with

998
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: a win.

999
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, cool, Yeah, I got Actually

1000
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to the other way. I got s. I'm

1001
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: taking Cincinnati in this in this game. I think that

1002
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: this has all the potential to be an upset. I

1003
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: think that this is a a very interesting situation. I

1004
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: like it a lot though. I like it.

1005
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: So let's say, let's do a hypothetical. B WHYU loses, Okay,

1006
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: but they still make the Big twelve Championship where they

1007
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: get revenge against Tech. Do you think that's enough for

1008
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: two Big twelve teams to be in the College Football playoffs? M?

1009
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: Or do you think that eliminates Tech?

1010
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I well, okay, it depends. Wait wait, repeat that

1011
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: scenario to me again.

1012
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: So BYU loses, they lose to Cincinnati, However, they still

1013
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: lay in the spot in the Big Twelve Championship.

1014
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So they.

1015
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: Win the Big twelve Championship against Texas Tech, which is

1016
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: you and Big.

1017
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: Twelve te Yeah, yeah, I believe that Texas Tech. If

1018
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: they beating people up, they're gonna end up in the

1019
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: top four by the time that the conference championship games come.

1020
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: And then because you have to have because depending on

1021
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: what happens with Texas A and M Texas and you're

1022
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna have Indiana and Ohio State play, So I think

1023
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Texas Tech inside of there. Mm hmm.

1024
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: So then a loss I don't think drops them far

1025
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: enough out to get out.

1026
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: That'd be interesting, it'd be interesting to get two teams in.

1027
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: But I feel like right now Texas Tech is a

1028
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: just a meat grinding wood chip and everybody.

1029
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. The next game that we gotta talk

1030
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: talk about this is an interesting one because we've spoken

1031
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: a little bit about Miami and them and their their

1032
01:03:54,760 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: fans being upset. Well, they go to Virginia Tech, and

1033
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: so is Miami going to show up in a way

1034
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: that gives them an opportunity to win? Like, are the

1035
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: is this the game that they drop as well? Because

1036
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: if they drop this game, I believe that the Mario

1037
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: Christobal talk is gonna get hot and heavy because they

1038
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: are seventeen and a half point favorites. Of course, he's

1039
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: not gonna get fired. But but there's gonna be like,

1040
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: like the sentiment about him and them is going to

1041
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: be significantly down.

1042
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be him costing them a college playoff.

1043
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: Berth with bad November play. Bad November play has been

1044
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 2: kind of a hallmark of his entire situation. I would

1045
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: take it personally. I would take this game completely out

1046
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: of Carsonback's hands and just run the ball. Louisville and

1047
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: Florida State are Virginia Tech's last two opponents. And you're

1048
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: talking about two hundred and thirty five yards rushing and

1049
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty seven yards rushing three touchdowns each.

1050
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

1051
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech has given up three rushing touchdowns in four

1052
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: consecutive games. The recipe is there, don't toy with it,

1053
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: don't play with it. I know last year this game

1054
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: went down to a controversial call at the end. Don't

1055
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: don't even let that be the case. Just run to victory.

1056
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: This game should not even be a contest.

1057
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be Yeah, Ralph, I won one hundred percent

1058
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: agree with you. But you know, Virginia Tech has made

1059
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: it close with teams at times because it's not like

1060
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: they are devoid of talent. It all has to do

1061
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: with this defense and how if they're able to get

1062
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: turnovers off of Carson Back. I'm actually gonna take Miami

1063
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: to win, but Virginia tech to stay within the number,

1064
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: to stay within that seventeen and a half.

1065
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: Everybody always talk about, like Miami's recruiting and their nil

1066
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff that Miami is starting to

1067
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: look like Miami again. Miami will never look like Miami

1068
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: until they play loose, never and they keep tightening up

1069
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: in all of these big moments. And you know, I

1070
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: thought cam Ward was kind of the anecdote for a

1071
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: lot of that. But even then that, you know, they

1072
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: lost some important games last year, So I don't know.

1073
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: I think they have the talent to be a top

1074
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: four team in the country. I think this year is

1075
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: already a disappointment. I don't think those fans can handle

1076
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: any more disappointment.

1077
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Okay, now, question is this line surprising to you? Texas

1078
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: at Arkansas. Texas is favored by nine and a half

1079
01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: points against Arkansas. M This line doesn't surprise me because

1080
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: of the way the Mississippi State game and the Kentucky

1081
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: game went, which were very very close games for Texas,

1082
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: but they are playing at home. Arch has been trending

1083
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: in a more positive direction for sure. But for Texas,

1084
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: a lot of this issue is their run game. They've

1085
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: only rushed for twelve hundred yards on the entire season

1086
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: as a team, twelve hundred when you look at you know,

1087
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: like some of the and truthfully, Alabama has less rushing

1088
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: yards than Texas does on the season. They've only rushed

1089
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: for like, they've rushed for under eleven hundred yards or

1090
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: right around eleven hundred yards on the entire season. So

1091
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: that puts a lot of stress on your quarterback in

1092
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Arch Manning who has nineteen touchdowns, seven picks, but he's

1093
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: thrown for twenty three hundred yards and at sixty three percent.

1094
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so Memphis ran for three hundred yards

1095
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: against Arkansas. I am actually shocked by the line, and

1096
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: I wonder what's going into what's going into that They've

1097
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: been better against the run, but it wasn't against anybody

1098
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: that actually runs the ball. Well, Mississippi State and LSU

1099
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: would not be confused for teams that have the ability

1100
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: to run the ball. But maybe maybe it's maybe what

1101
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 2: the the ultimate references to is Arkansas's ability to hang

1102
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 2: with a lot of the teams that they've played against,

1103
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: because even though they lost to LSU, they were in

1104
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 2: that game. Even though they lost to Texas A and M,

1105
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: they dropped forty two on them. Even though they lost

1106
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: to Tennessee, they dropped thirty one on them. You know,

1107
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: they have I think at this point in the season,

1108
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 2: they have six one score losses over the course of

1109
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: their eight game losing streak. So maybe the line is

1110
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: just a reaction to the fact that Arkansas plays everybody close.

1111
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 2: But when I look at the fact that Memphis rushed

1112
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: for three hundred on them when Arkansas had to travel,

1113
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 2: why couldn't Texas do the same? Isn't Texas the only

1114
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: team in the country or in the SEC that returned

1115
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: a one thousand yard rusher. This has got to be

1116
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: the game where they get healthy.

1117
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: It actually should should be. But Arkansas is going to

1118
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: be able to score. But the problem is Arkansas is

1119
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: not going to be able to win this football game.

1120
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to But it's nine.

1121
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: It's nine or nine and a half, depending on where

1122
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: you get it. I'm going to take Arkansas to stay

1123
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: within that. Like I think that.

1124
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: And to be clear, because you and I talked about

1125
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: this off air, you are team no path for techs.

1126
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,919
Speaker 2: You do not believe there's paths in Texas?

1127
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, yeah, I don't believe that there's a

1128
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: path for Texas or that there should be a path

1129
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 1: to Texas for the college football playoffs because they're at seventeen. Now,

1130
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: this Arkansas win won't really mean much unless this next

1131
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: game that we're going to talk about, actually if this

1132
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: goes left Kentucky versus Vanderbilt, because if Kentucky wins this game, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1133
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: If Kentucky wins this game, that's a spot for Vanderbilt.

1134
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a spot that Texas gets to at

1135
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: least just bump up just a little bit, right. And

1136
01:10:52,800 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: then what happens if BYU lose this to Cincinnati, that's

1137
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: another spot. So now they're at fifteen and then you

1138
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: beat Texas A and M. Depending on what happens with

1139
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: Alabama and the Iron Bowl, there is a chaos path

1140
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: to that happening. What would happen if if all that

1141
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: happened in USC beat Oregon.

1142
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: I think that they would deserve it, And I'm not

1143
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: like an SEC honk or whatever. But I think if

1144
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: you beat a top three team in the country and

1145
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: you have nine wins and you've got the win over Oklahoma,

1146
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to argue against Can you even compete?

1147
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: Because you got beat the hell up by Ohio State,

1148
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: you got beat by a bad Florida team, you got

1149
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: beat to a pulp by Georgia. Just a week ago,

1150
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: you skated by Vanderbilt three, even though you were up

1151
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: bigger in that game, And then if Vanderbilt loses to Kentucky,

1152
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: it don't look as pretty for you. No, So that's

1153
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're right, this is a chaos theory game.

1154
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: And uh this line opened up at seven and a

1155
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: half Ralph, it is eight and a half to nine

1156
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: and a half depending on where you get it. I

1157
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: like Kentucky. Why Why am I so contrarian right now?

1158
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: I like Kentucky plus eight and a half in this game.

1159
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: I think that these this game stays extremely close. Vanderbilt's

1160
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: defense is not great, but Kentucky has found a way

1161
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: to make games close. Bowleie is getting some confidence, their

1162
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: their their their quarterback. I like Kentucky plus eight and

1163
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: a half even if Vanderbilt.

1164
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: Wins Kentucky after licking their wounds after getting thumped by

1165
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: Georgia on the road. Has been pretty respectable. Of course,

1166
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: you got to throw out the Tennessee Tech November cupcake

1167
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: result that bothers me so much. But they dominated Florida

1168
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: and they didn't let Auburn even like sniff the end zone.

1169
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 2: They're running the ball pretty well lately. They didn't against Florida,

1170
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: but nobody really does. But the one thing that kind

1171
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: of gives me, it's hard to pick against Diego Pavia.

1172
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: It's hard to pick against Clark Lee and the way

1173
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: that they prepare. Diego Pavia is the SEC leader in

1174
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,480
Speaker 2: yards per attempt and the one place Kentucky is vulnerable

1175
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: is taking them deep. So I think more big plays

1176
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: for Vanderbilt equals a win. But I will go with you.

1177
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: I think Kentucky covers, but Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt gets the win

1178
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: in this one.

1179
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next game. We got

1180
01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: a Big twelve showdown the a team that I clearly

1181
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: foolishly picked to make the College Football Playoff and win

1182
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: the Big twelve Kids versus Utah Utah. This is the

1183
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: game that Utah has to have They cannot lose this

1184
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 1: football game. They are seventeen and a half point favorites

1185
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: raph seventeen and a half points. And you consider that

1186
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Kansas State is lost to Iowa Stay by three, Army

1187
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: by three, Arizona by four, Baylor by one, Texas Tech

1188
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: by twenty three, this line feels crazy to me. At

1189
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half, this says, Kansas keeps it closer,

1190
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: but Utah is going to line you up and run

1191
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: the damn football on you, like that's what you're gonna do.

1192
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: Last week they for like eight thousand yards last week.

1193
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: And three weeks ago they put four to twenty two

1194
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: on Colorado at eight point three carries. There are five

1195
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: games this year where Utah has averaged at least six

1196
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: point one yards per carry, and the.

1197
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: Three eighty on Baylor on like forty four carries it

1198
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: was nasty.

1199
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is the only team that has been able

1200
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: to kind of figure out Utah's running game this year.

1201
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: The BYU thing I chalk up to just rivalry and

1202
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: road game. The Texas Tech game was a lot closer

1203
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: than the thirty four ten a lot closer than the

1204
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: thirty four to ten would tell you that broke open

1205
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: late in.

1206
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: The fourth and so that game was nip and tuck. Yeah,

1207
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: whole way.

1208
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm pro Kansas State in this one. I want

1209
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: Avery Johnson to just run, just run. I know you

1210
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: want to prove your pocket passer. Do it next year

1211
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: wherever you play college football this year, just use your

1212
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: feet please. But if you look at Utah over the

1213
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: last month and a half, they are five and one

1214
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: with five absolutely dominant in conference blowout wins forty eight

1215
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: fourteen at West Virginia, forty two ten over Arizona State,

1216
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: fifty three to seven over Colorado, forty five fourteen over Cincinnati,

1217
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: and then at Baylor. They absolutely laid the wood. Last week.

1218
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: They only needed to complete eight passes to score fifty

1219
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: five points. Utah is rolling right now. This game is

1220
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: at home. If it was at night, I would say

1221
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: take a thirty point spread. But I think it's because

1222
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: it's early in the day kickoff. It's only seventeen and

1223
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 2: a half.

1224
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, do you.

1225
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: Do so so BYU has the tie breaker over Utah?

1226
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: Correct?

1227
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, yes, So Utah really has like a less

1228
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: than two percent chance at.

1229
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: And getting to the big twelve championship. This is gonna

1230
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: be the nastiest bowl team in America. They need help help.

1231
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope, but I do hope if they missed

1232
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff that we just run it like

1233
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 2: Texas Utah. Let's go, because if those would be the

1234
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: essentially two top teams left out in my opinion.

1235
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, all right, all right, let's get to

1236
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: the next game. I didn't have it sitting right there

1237
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: in front of me like I should have. There are

1238
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of bad football games this week, if we're

1239
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: really being honest. But there's a big ten matchup that

1240
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: I find very interesting, Ralph, very interesting, and that is

1241
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: Illinois at Wisconsin. And remember when Oregon played with Wisconsin.

1242
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: I told everybody that it would be closer than a

1243
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: lot of people thought it would because they're moving in

1244
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 1: the right direction. Ever since that, they have told Luke Fickle,

1245
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: you're not going to be fired, You're we're gonna bring

1246
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: you back. They've been better and they're getting healthier and

1247
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: this and this Illinois team is doing a good job.

1248
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: This just feels like a situation. Ralph, Illinois favored by

1249
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 1: seven and a half. Wisconsin just beat Washington at home.

1250
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: The weather is good at least it is right right now.

1251
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: Ah man I I they got beat up last week

1252
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: by Indiana thirty one to seven, but they started out tight.

1253
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Illinois plus seven and a half.

1254
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: I think this is a ten point victory.

1255
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: Okay, this is I don't know if I can bring myself.

1256
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: I know the game against Oregon was close, and I

1257
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 2: know that they found a way to beat Washington, but

1258
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: it was all done on one side of the ball.

1259
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: It's not like they're doing anything offensively right now. It

1260
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: has been the last time that they completed more than

1261
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:25,959
Speaker 2: ten passes.

1262
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase.

1263
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: The last time they completed nine or more passes in

1264
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,799
Speaker 2: a game was October fourth.

1265
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1266
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: The last time that they scored two touchdowns in a

1267
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: game on offense was September sixth. The last time they

1268
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: scored more than fourteen total points in a game is

1269
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 2: September sixth. In the last five Middle Tennessee State in

1270
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: the last five games five games, they have three touchdowns total.

1271
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: And that's when they've supposedly twice. Yes, they've been shut

1272
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: out twice. On the season. They're completing fifty six percent

1273
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 2: of their passes and rushing for three point one yards

1274
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 2: a game. They have not the last time they averaged

1275
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: four yards per carry in a single game, George, you

1276
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: want to guess, no idea Middle Tennessee State September sixth.

1277
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: That is also the only time this season that they

1278
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: have averaged four yards of carrying a game, and even

1279
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: that one did not average five. They all are on

1280
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: turnovers on the season minus eight.

1281
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: Hey, and hear this. With all of those things that

1282
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: you said, they still have more rushing yards than Alabama.

1283
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 1: Alabama doesn't even have eleven hundred rushing yards on the season.

1284
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: They got ten seven and Wisconsin's got eleven hundred.

1285
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: This is a This is a brutal season, and if

1286
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: they manage to get out of it with four plus wins,

1287
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 2: it'll be incredible. Because currently the Wisconsin Badgers are like

1288
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: a reserve power forward, averaging twelve points per game on

1289
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 2: the year.

1290
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: All right, all right, the second to last game that

1291
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: we have is this is an ACC game. I'm sorry,

1292
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: an SEC game that people thought would matter, but it

1293
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: only matts. I guess to Tennessee to see if they're

1294
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: still ranked towards the end of the season. But because

1295
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,520
Speaker 1: they've been flying under the radar, around the twenties. Hypel's

1296
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: clearly doing a good job. They're they're seventy three in

1297
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: a rebuild year with Joey Aguilar as their quarterback when

1298
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: Nico left. They are at Florida. This feels like a

1299
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: tough spot for them. Ralph like, everything about this to

1300
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: me feels extremely tough. Like I look at this and

1301
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, pow, I do not know.

1302
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Because Lagway was pretty good last week in their in

1303
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: their loss, they should have won the game. Last week

1304
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: Florida had damn it. I was watching that game the

1305
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: whole damn time. It was Florida was playing Old Miss

1306
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: last week they had old Miss Dad to write, and

1307
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: then Lagway came in doing things. You're like, what are

1308
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: we doing? Son? What are we doing? I It is

1309
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: like mind bendingly frustrating to watch Florida play offense and

1310
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: watch decisions that DJ Lagway makes. I'm not even gonna

1311
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: blame the kid at this point, because I'm gonna say

1312
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: that it was the coaches that were allowing it. So

1313
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: I am going to look at them. I'm gonna give

1314
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: them a pass on some level, and I'm going to

1315
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: take Florida. Oh Tennessee is a four point favorite in

1316
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: this game, three and a half in some In some places,

1317
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: this game is in the swamp. This feels like a

1318
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,919
Speaker 1: Florida win to me. Ralph.

1319
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so the best thing that can happen for Tennessee

1320
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: is to win this game.

1321
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 1: Like it's the.

1322
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: In a rebuilding year or whatever eight win season. You

1323
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: lose your quarterback, things fall apart, you are guaranteed to

1324
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 2: not be sub five hundred in the sec and you

1325
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: will have done something that you haven't done in a

1326
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 2: very long time. And we're gonna play a little game

1327
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: called guess the year the last time that Tennessee won

1328
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: a game in Gainesville the number nine, number ten box

1329
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 2: office movie in the entire country Bad Boys, Two Bad

1330
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: Boys Too, Bad Boys Too. And now these are teams

1331
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: that play every year, mind you, so the last time, hmm,

1332
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: not too close. I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll

1333
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: give you another one. Let's uh, we'll go with one

1334
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: of my traditions. I don't really do Thanksgiving, but I

1335
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 2: do have one Thanksgiving tradition, and it is to watch

1336
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: the number seventeen movie in the box office from this

1337
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,480
Speaker 2: year starring Will Ferrell, Elf.

1338
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: People, love freaking Elf. All right, ELF's older than that.

1339
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Let's go two thousand and one. Okay, Uh.

1340
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: The last hint is you were not living that far

1341
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:35,879
Speaker 2: from there when this happened.

1342
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so I was in Jacksonville. I got there in

1343
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: O three. So let's go Elf, bing bing bing bing

1344
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: bing bing bing.

1345
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: Your rookie year in the NFL is the last time

1346
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: Tennessee has won a game in the swamp.

1347
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 1: And they've played at least ten times there. Yeah.

1348
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very very important game for Tennessee that

1349
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: Florida fans can turn around and throw right back in

1350
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 2: their face and be like, yeah, we didn't even have

1351
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:15,520
Speaker 2: to have coach.

1352
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: So like there's still beat you. We don't leave to Tennessee.

1353
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing about this game means anything for Florida really

1354
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: outside of just maintaining the status quo. This game means

1355
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: everything for Tennessee, and they don't even get to enjoy

1356
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 2: it as much as they would have if Florida didn't

1357
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: have like the excuse of like there's not actually anybody

1358
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 2: in charge.

1359
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah we don't have a quarterback, we don't have a coach,

1360
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,919
Speaker 1: and we still beat you. That feels like Michigan, Ohio

1361
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: State last year. It's a can't lose, not a must win. Yep,

1362
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's get your thoughts Ralph on your

1363
01:26:54,040 --> 01:27:02,520
Speaker 1: Arizona State sun Devils led by the legend himself, Jeff's

1364
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: against Colorado and Juju I want I've damned there called

1365
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: the kid Juju Watkins Lewis. Yeah, yeah, Julian Juju Lewis,

1366
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: Julian Lewis. So Colorado has been struggling this year. They

1367
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: are three and seven. I think that's fair to say

1368
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: they finish up this year with Colorado State. But a

1369
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: five win season wouldn't feel as bad as it feels

1370
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 1: right now. So I am going to take Arizona State

1371
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: in this game. This is there favored by seven points,

1372
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: seven and a half in some spots, I'm gonna take

1373
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: the seven so I can get a push if need be.

1374
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: Arizona's they plus seven, I'm sorry minus seven, excuse me.

1375
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: It's probably smart. We haven't had a chance to talk

1376
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: about this, but Dion devoting Pat Shermer, I don't love it.

1377
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: He did, yeah, like like before last week or maybe

1378
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,520
Speaker 2: even two weeks ago.

1379
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: And like Pat doesn't know what a good officer coordinator.

1380
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Looks like because you had the fire Sean Lewis, yeah,

1381
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: who's doing a great job at San Diego State, who

1382
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: actually is one of the people in play for UCLA,

1383
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: along with the jam Chesney, the yeah, the JMU coach.

1384
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: And now you're firing Shermer. So maybe you made bad hires.

1385
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 2: And Shermer like led the team through Dion's absence. Yeah,

1386
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 2: it feels like I don't know if you remember the

1387
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: whole New Gingridge like cheating on his wife while she's

1388
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: in cancer treatments. But it's like you.

1389
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 7: Had the man, You had the man like uh uh

1390
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 7: running the team and and you took play calling duties

1391
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 7: away from him and it's been worse.

1392
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: I like Dion.

1393
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 2: This year is certainly not going according to plan. There

1394
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: is a lot of talent on this roster. I don't

1395
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: know if Jordan Steaton's gonna be healthy. They've got some

1396
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 2: really good wide receivers, and I do love how Julian

1397
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: Lewis hung in there after getting sacked a billion times

1398
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: against West Virginia. You know, they always have the chance

1399
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: to maybe do something special on offense. But here's why

1400
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: this game actually matters, and it's a full circle moment

1401
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 2: for this show that we do together. Two things both

1402
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: that we covered for the Pac Total Apostles. Number One,

1403
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:54,440
Speaker 2: when Dion came in, he brought with him his famously

1404
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: his a store that you used to frequent. Yeah, he

1405
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: brought his Louis luggage and which means the old luggage

1406
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 2: had to go. And one of those old bags was

1407
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 2: a man by the name of Jordan Tyson. Right now,

1408
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 2: and well, what did we say at the time. We're like, okay,

1409
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: I get getting these dudes out of here, but Jordan Tyson,

1410
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: and we said it.

1411
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: Then we said it.

1412
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Then Jordan Tyson got his start us talking about him

1413
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 2: on this show, him tearing up Arizona State. So Jordan

1414
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: Tyson's coming back from this hamstring and you know, he

1415
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: wants to show out in Boulder in front of his

1416
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: old fans, in front of the coach that that you

1417
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: know cut eyghs. Yeah, and he's dealt with a lot

1418
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: of injuries, so he's kind of got a lot of

1419
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 2: lot to prove as he builds his his draft stock.

1420
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: The other thing is this, and it's something we covered

1421
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 2: on the Pack Told Apostles as well, something we kind

1422
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 2: of even maybe laughed at at the time, Jeff Simms's

1423
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 2: whole life fell apart in Boulder at the start of

1424
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:57,480
Speaker 2: the twenty.

1425
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Twenty three years Nebraska Yes, yeah, in bows talked about

1426
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: like like he was dog water, like he was the

1427
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: worst college football quarterback that to ever tie up shoes.

1428
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: They should have never given him a football. He should

1429
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: he shouldn't even be allowed to change positions. He should

1430
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 1: just be forced to quit football permanently. That's how bad.

1431
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: And that a lot of that call was coming from

1432
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: inside the house those Nebraska fans.

1433
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Yep.

1434
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 2: And one thing that Nebraska fans used to say is

1435
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: like he's a good guy. But and I always kind

1436
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 2: of wondered what that meant. And now that he's been

1437
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 2: in Tempee for two years, that's whatever. That's how everybody talks.

1438
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: About him there. He's a very good person. Yep.

1439
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: This game matters a lot. So who matters a lot

1440
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: for Jeff Simms. Arizona State, Colorado is bad. But I

1441
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: have a vested interest in seeing Jordan Tyson get his

1442
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Boulder farewell. And it would be really cool to see

1443
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 2: Jeff Simms redeem his name in the city that took

1444
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: it away. That those two things I think are important

1445
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 2: parts of a game that really doesn't matter all that much.

1446
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Okay, super quick, super super quick, Washington U c l

1447
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: A Washington minus ten and a half points. The only

1448
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: reason why this could even be a game where it

1449
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't be it.

1450
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 2: Is because Jetfish interviews before the game.

1451
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Huh.

1452
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 2: It's because Jetfish interviews before the game.

1453
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious, and you know that's what.

1454
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: Arizona fans are saying. He's gonna go down to the

1455
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: interview right for kickoff.

1456
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: And then the other part is Washington is awful on

1457
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: the road. This is how they lost to Wisconsin being

1458
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: terrible on the road. M Nico's back this week. They're

1459
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: ten and a half point favorites. I'm taking UCLA plus

1460
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: ten and a half.

1461
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take the spread with you. I don't

1462
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 2: love Washington playing bad when their whole team is Arizona

1463
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 2: high school kids. I love, I love that whole roster.

1464
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 2: But I think it could be a very close game. Yep,

1465
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 2: it'd be hell if they lost.

1466
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Hell. And if you guys noticed, we did not bring

1467
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: up the sec barely because we will spend zero point

1468
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: in time talking about Texas A and m versus Samford Colorado.

1469
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Georgia versus Charlotte, Alabama versus Eastern Illinois, Auburn

1470
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 1: versus Mercer, South Carolina versus Coastal Carolina, LSU versus Western Kentucky,

1471
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: and then Tennessee versus New Mexico State last week, and

1472
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: then there was a Oh Miss versus the Citadel as

1473
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: well a couple of weeks ago. So no, we're not

1474
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna pay any attention to you. Go go sit and

1475
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: spend somewhere.

1476
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 2: We did spend ten minut it's arguing about our mercer

1477
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 2: before we hit record for full disclosure.

1478
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: But yes, because Ralph said that Mercers should sit their

1479
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: starters because they're nine and one and going to the playoffs.

1480
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: And then in case anybody gets hurt and you disagree,

1481
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: because this is their opportunity to be able to showcase

1482
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: their skills versus.

1483
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 2: The SEC so that they can transfer leave the team.

1484
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: You gotta sit those starters, man, You gotta everybody. You

1485
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 2: gotta go get that Michael Jordan Salt Lake City Pizza

1486
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: before the get everybody a case of food poisoning right

1487
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: before the game's hilarious.

1488
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, I'm George reister. He's Ralph Ampson.

1489
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: Peace out, catch you guys later.