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Shout out to Truffly Made. 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely a man in many hats. But you know what, 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: We're going to bring it back to some news you 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: could use, and today we have some unfortunate news in 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: the cannabis industry. Now the headline reads Medmen closes all 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: but all storefronts, but two weeks after the stock plummet 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: to zero, so all out pretty much. What it's saying 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: is is that, according to a report from Mjbiz, one 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: of the cannabis industry's most prominent chains, has closed down 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: all but two of its locations. And the only ones 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: that they kept because they were nationwide folks. They only 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: kept San Diego and one in the Los Angeles by 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: lax so that must have been their moneymakers right there. 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: But they've officially closed all of the other locations. And 51 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: some of these like range from like Santa Ana, I 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: think Long Beach, San Francisco, even like some in Chicago 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: and Nevada and like Nevada maybe I think they had 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: one in Vegas or something like that. 55 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: But you know, my question is is like, is Medmen 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: the company saveable because I know they've been through a 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: lot of turmoil in the past. If we've even had 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: like someone who like one of their original on the show, 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: and but are is Medmen savable or are they gonna 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: crumble like the rest of the declining market in like 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: the cannabis industry. And I'm gonna start off with you, Connor, 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna bring it back to our wonderful 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: sound engineer over there, diego, we can't forget him. 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Right, yes, sure, So well, you know, Medmen kind of 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: predates me with my. 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: You know, like the iPhone store, like a cannabis right. 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so you know, I wasn't really around in 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: the cannabis industry to be able to see that. 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: So I'm curious to what you. 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: You know, from what you've seen of Medmen, Like, you know, 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: what do you think will happen, Daniel? 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: I mean, if they haven't fallen, like the entity itself, 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: like the name itself holds strong weight, like everybody knows 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: Medmen if you smoke cannabis. That's like like I said earlier, 76 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: they they came out, the way they rolled out was 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: like a like an iPhone store if you will, you know. 78 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: But as we've seen, something's going on within the market, 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: whether it's like you know, the tax aspect or the 81 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: political aspect. I don't know what's going on within the market. 82 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: But most of these mom and pop shops started to 83 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: close off first as we see, and now Medmen is 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: down to its last too. So which one's gonna which 85 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: one's gonna close next? Are they just gonna close and 86 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: then keep the money whatever they have and just cut 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: their losses, maybe even branch out and start a new company. 88 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Or are they gonna have to Are they gonna become Blockbuster, 89 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: is what I'm saying, Or are they gonna, you know, 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: be Netflix and start their own new thing? You know 91 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that's where I'm trying to go through. 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: Well, I'm kind of looking it up to see some 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 4: more of the discourse on this, and I'm looking up 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: on mjbiz that. According to internal communications obtained by mjbiz Daily, 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: regulatory filings and interviews with dozens of cannabis brands, industry vendors, 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: and former employees, medmen frequently disregarded invoices, breached contracts, and 97 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: ignored exhaustive attempts to resolve outstanding balances. Some of bed 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: Med's topic executives, including former CEO Ellen Deutsche Harrison and 99 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: acting chief financial officer I Mean Pande, were included in 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: online exchanges with brands and contractors seeking restitution for their 101 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 4: unpaid invoices for months, according to emails obtained by MJBS Daily. 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: So you know, upon reading that, it. 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: Now that brings a whole different dynamics of this entire story. 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: Actually So what you're saying is is that the reason 105 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: why they're crumbling is their own fault. It's something internal 106 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: that's happening where they're not paying on time. 107 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, whether you know, I didn't delve too much further 108 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: into the article, which I can, but you know, it 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 4: could be for a myriad of reasons and it's not 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: you know, it could be that they are there's too 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: much tax being taken out of their their revenue, or 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: you know, they're not able to sustain a profit margin. 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, but you know, from what I see, 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: it's looking as if you know, it's going to be 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: hard to recover. 116 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: Not to say that's that's not possible. 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: What about you diego? What do you think about this? 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I'm too versed in the knowledge of 119 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: like medmen. I did hear that they were going to 120 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: close all their stores, but from what you guys are saying, 121 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: that sounds inevitable. If you're like not paying back the 122 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: people who are stocking you know, you're absolutely right, then 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: they're not going to do business with you, and then 124 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 5: they're going to tell other people y'all don't do business 125 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 5: with these guys. They don't pay. 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're bad money. But I understand that. But I 127 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: want to know why are they being greedy perhaps? Or 128 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: is it just like you know, Connor said, could it 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: be something like a taxation issue where they're getting tacked 130 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: so much that their pockets are low? How are they 131 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: gonna you know, how is the trickle down effect going 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: to be? Which is you know, I'm not saying it's 133 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: right or wrong. I mean, I think you should to 134 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: have a strong company. You gotta you know, you got 135 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: to strengthen your core. And whatever your core is for 136 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: your company, that's what you got to strengthen, not gonna 137 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: it won't survive unless that's whatever. But I'm just saying 138 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: it could be a number of reasons, and I'm just 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: hoping that, you know, like the whole industry just bounces 140 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: back like some rubber balls or something, you know. I mean, yeah, no, homo, 141 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: just kidding, but we need to bounce back as an industry. 142 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: And to be honest, we just like all this like 143 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: not paying invoices or not paying people back. It's understandable 144 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: if you don't have it, how are you gonna pay 145 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: somebody with something you don't have. But there it's got 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: to be a different way. We got to stop cheating 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: the next person and stepping on on heads to get ahead, you. 148 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: Know what I mean, Yeah, for sure. I mean the 149 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: industry definitely, you know, has hit a downturn post COVID, 150 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: and like you said, we're hoping for recovery. 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: And you know, I was looking up a little bit 152 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: more that medmen is. 153 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: Having some lawsuits filed against them, you know, in repercussion 154 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: of this whole situation that they brought themselves into. 155 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: So they're gonna have to ride that tide in order 156 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: to you know, absolutely to be able to recover. 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: So you know, it's we'll have to wait and see 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: and the next couple couple of months. 159 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Six months, year, whatever they do. They're running unlimited time, 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: as we all are. So when we ride back, we're 161 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: gonna dive into some some new studies in the health 162 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: in the health categories, I would say, but it's actually 163 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: quite interesting, and I got I got a couple questions 164 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: on that. So when we're right back, we'll be right back. Actually. 165 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: Follow Blue at one, Christopher Wright, Follow Joe Grande at 166 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 6: Joe Grunde fifty two. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter on 167 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: our website Cannabis Talk one on one dot com. 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What do you got from? 177 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: So, welcome back, Welcome back if you guys made it 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: this far. I'm Daniel, that's Connor, and we got some 179 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: news you can use, and we're bringing it to a 180 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: medical side. And we got a new study for you guys. 181 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: So here's the headline. Cannabis consumers are just as likely 182 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: to exercise as non consumers in the new study. So 183 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: a study in preventative medicine reports indicate that cannabis users 184 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: are just as likely to engage in exercise as non users, 185 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: challenging stereotypes about cannabis use and physical inactivity. The study 186 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: was written by researchers from the University of Texas and 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Ohio University who surveyed over two thousand and five hundred 188 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: and ninety one US adults who either consume cannabis or 189 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: use e cigarettes. So, to dumb it down, what they're 190 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: saying is that cannabis doesn't make you lazy, correct, right, So, 191 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: as a person who consumes cannabis often and is aware 192 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: about how cannabis might affect others, cause damn it, I've 193 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: seen it around the office. You speak, you know, I'll 194 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: be I'll take one hit and then you see it 195 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: in the eyes of another they're just like, you know 196 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: what I'm done for the day. You know what I'm saying. 197 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: But anyways, as a person who consumes cannabis every day 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: and it's aware about how you know it might affect 199 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: somebody else, does blazing make you lazy? Or does it 200 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: enhance what you're doing? 201 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: It's going to enhance whatever mood you're in, you know 202 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like, like I said in our previous 203 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: show that we did together, you know, it's up to 204 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: the lifestyle choices of the person. And like obviously, if 205 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: you're inhaling something which THC is separate from you know, 206 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: the physical act of smoking, like you're inhaling with a 207 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: lighter and butane or you know, ammonia from the plant. 208 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: Whatever it is, Like, you're gonna have to balance out 209 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: certain things in your lifestyle in order for you to 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: you know, be healthy. Like you can't have it all. 211 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 4: You have to pick one or the other in some 212 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: in some scenario, you know what I'm saying. So there's 213 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: a lot of studies that come out. Here are people 214 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: that may make bad lifestyle choices, and it gets blamed 215 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: on cannabis purely because they use it and it's in 216 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: their system. 217 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: But you know, we've done the whole rodeo on this show. 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: We've had many different people in the industry come on 219 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: and give their take on it and how we all 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: have an endocanandinoid system and that people don't regulate that enough, 221 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: where you know, a lot of health problems may come 222 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: from the lack of you know, THHC and cannabinoids into 223 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: the endocanandinoid system, like we've we've seen a lot of 224 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: anecdotal evidence from that. Obviously, we're trying to get there 225 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: from a testing standpoint because it's hard to accumulate data 226 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: in cannabis. 227 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: That's why we have to outsource it a lot of places. 228 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: However, my point is is that, you know, I think 229 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: it's unfair to label something that is so clearly medicinal, 230 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 4: as you know, a threat to someone's health, which obviously, 231 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: like I said, the inhaling smoke is bad for you, you 232 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: got to balance it out. But THC and cannabis itself 233 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: does so much good for the body that you know, 234 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: we've already seen it and we. 235 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Know that so absolutely. And I think just to you know, 236 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: go full circle on if it makes it lazy or 237 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: does it enhance you know, what you're what you're doing. 238 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: I think personally that it all has to do with intent, 239 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: like what your intent is, because some people, you know, 240 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: they might smoke in just to chill, you know what 241 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: I mean, or they might smoke to eat. It depends 242 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: on what you do. Like yeah, you know, like me, 243 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm always on the go and I like to I 244 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: like to use cannabis just you know, in between my breaks. 245 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: Like someone smokes cannabis, I mean smoke cigarettes. I smoke cannabis. 246 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: That's how That's how I get down so unapologetically but respectfully. 247 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 4: Right yeah, And obviously you can you can abuse any 248 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: substance like, for example, coffee. 249 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: You can drink too much coffee and it's you know, 250 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: too much caffeine. It's bad for your heart. 251 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 4: Or you can have too much you know, fatty foods 252 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 4: and it's gonna clog your heart, you know what I'm saying. 253 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: So it's it's the same for cannabis. It's not like, 254 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: you know, you can just have an infinite amount and 255 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: be okay. Of course, like you have to, you know, 256 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: as long as you get the job done. Yeah, for sure, 257 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: And you know you have to, you know, like everything else, 258 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: consume everything in moderation, so you know, and that's when 259 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: the plant will do. 260 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: It's most wonders if you're not abusing it. 261 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: What about you guys back there? I want to hear 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: from diego right here. Does does blazing make you lazy? 263 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: Or does it enhance what you do? 264 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 5: Absolutely not, No, it doesn't make you lazy. It doesn't 265 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 5: make me lazy. 266 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Do you ever work out? Yeah? This is about exercise. 267 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: Do you ever exercise and smoke? Bud? Let me hear 268 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: about that, Like that's your routine, it's my pre workout. 269 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah? 270 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Do you mix it with your c four a little? 271 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: Not just kidding? No, I don't. 272 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 5: I don't like to do caffeine all the time. So 273 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 5: whenever I want to, if I'm gonna like go to 274 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: bed after or if I'm like working out late at night, 275 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: fucking I will get just like a couple of hits 276 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: of the pen and then I'm chilling for the rest 277 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: of the two hours. 278 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but when I smoke 279 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: at night, it just keeps me up. 280 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I don't wanna like waste waste it either, 281 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: so I'll like stay up a little bit, but like, yeah, 282 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: I know, I try not to smoke them. 283 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: Obviously. We did that one show with Mary where we 284 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: were talking about this. 285 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: A while back with Yes, I do remember that, and 286 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: you know it it does block you from getting your 287 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: rem ultimately, So it's like wisest if you are going 288 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: to smoke before bed to do it, like you know, 289 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: at minimum like one hour, two hours, three hours before bed, 290 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: and like you'll be able to get some rem sleep. 291 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: But you know, it's a I used it, and I 292 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: have and I do use it to help me get 293 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: to bed, obviously, but I am aware of the fact 294 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: that it is hard to get. 295 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: A natural suit with it, for sure. 296 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have like the toughest time. I don't care 297 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: if I'm smoking Indica. I'm my Indica. You know, I 298 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: lean more towards the Indica. So so I like og 299 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: stuff like that, heavy heavy ogs, and it still doesn't 300 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: put me out. But I mean, you know, everybody's different, right, 301 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: But you know what, we'll be right back with some 302 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: more news you can use. We're going to go into 303 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: let's see into the federal category of things, and we'll 304 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: be right back with more news you can use. 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But you know, the DA, we've 333 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: been they've been getting knocks at their door about this 334 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: cannabis stuff with the president. Uh you know, so let's 335 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: hear it Connor. 336 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: So, the DA is reviewing the scheduling of cannabis and 337 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: are looking to reschedule it from Schedule one to Schedule three. 338 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 4: All right, before we dive into it, just from the 339 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: surface level, that sounds great. They're going to deschedule it, 340 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: right absolutely, you know it's I mean it's. 341 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: In the surface level. It sounds great, like, oh, it's 342 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: not illegal, yes, and it's not not not being considered 343 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: at a Schedule one level where there's no medicinal. 344 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: Value to it. However, there's a bit more underneath the 345 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: surface to this. So let's break it down. The potential 346 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: of rescheduling of cannabis has its pros and cons The 347 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: two ADE tax forbids businesses deducting otherwise ordinary business expenses 348 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: from gross income associated with the trafficking of Scheduled one 349 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: or Schedule two substances, and this would cease to exist 350 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: with the descheduling to Schedule one to Schedule three. 351 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people. 352 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: That are saying that without this UH tax code to 353 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 4: ade that you know, a lot of companies will you know, 354 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: be able to be way more profitable than they are 355 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 4: right now, and that the industry is crying for it, 356 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 4: and that's something that you know, any cannabis brand would 357 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 4: look forward to, you know, being a part of. However, 358 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: the cannabis community has had adverse feelings to this outcome 359 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 4: of rescheduling and urge Congress to deschedule or do nothing, 360 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: with several Democratic Senators pleading that rescheduling to Schedule three 361 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: would not increase access to medical cannabis or pave the 362 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: way for nationwide decriminalization. Dawson said, instead, it would further 363 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 4: entrench bureaucratic barriers, limit research and access opportunities to channels 364 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: that are already historically excluding of black and brown communities 365 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: and ultimately impede the local, the state and local development 366 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: of the robust and inclusive cannabis industry that we were 367 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 4: trying to build. And that is from cannabis business times. 368 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: So obviously there's. 369 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: So they're going to go from schedule one to schedule three, right, Yes, 370 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: And doesn't that make it so that you have to 371 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: it's like in the hands of the pharmaceutical companies, is 372 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: that what's going on? 373 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you couldn't buy it over the counters, so 374 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: you'd have to you know, go in there and get 375 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 4: a prescription and go and federally handle that with the pharmacies. 376 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: And so like everyone, you know, everyone who's for cannabis 377 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: is like, why would you even do that? Like, you know, 378 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: you're going to absolutely limit the amount of cannabis that's 379 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: going to be accessed, and it's just going to absolutely 380 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: have the reverse effect of. 381 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: And purposes and all that stuff. 382 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just gonna be a nightmare to handle. 383 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: So what I think, to be honest, like we should 384 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: just go the Elizabeth Warren route. And if you guys 385 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: don't know who Elizabeth Warren Is, she's like the US 386 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: Senator of Massachusetts. She's talking about throw it off of it, 387 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: throw all cannabis off, the whole scheduling thing altogether. 388 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just deschedule it. That's just gonna solve way 389 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 4: more issues. And it's like, so the whole question that 390 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: I have for you and the audience, why can't they 391 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: ever get this right? 392 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: Honestly? 393 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: Like, I know, we've come up with so many uh, 394 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 4: you know, explanations as to why. But my point of 395 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: this question is just frustration because I feel like it's 396 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: just one article after another after another after another that 397 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: it's like, Oh, it's. 398 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: Gonna happen, This is gonna happen that way. 399 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: Oh, we're gonna, you know, sample it here, We're gonna 400 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 4: do this there, Like they come on, it's not that hard. 401 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: And I know, like we all. 402 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: Know that they use all these creat words like oh, 403 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna de schedule and it sounds like, oh, like 404 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: to the common person, if I didn't read up on this, 405 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: or if you didn't explain it to me right now, 406 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: I would have thought this was a good thing. 407 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: Right, and it it could be in some ways. It is. 408 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: Obviously it is. 409 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's a step towards success, but it's not where 410 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: we need. They don't need their hands on this anymore. 411 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: And the common cone what they've done, yes, and the 412 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 4: common consensus is that there's more to lose than to 413 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 4: gain from them doing this, obviously, because you know you 414 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: already said that it's not gonna it's gonna be sold 415 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: in pharmacies and uh, you know that's just gonna cut 416 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: out all the work that the industry has done so far. 417 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: And everything they've been trying so far has not been working. 418 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: So I think it's time to you know, give those 419 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: important seats in those chairs up and put some people 420 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: in charge that are you know, a progressive thinker with 421 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 2: you know, with the people in mind, the people in 422 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: the industry, and what's what's what's right in mind? Someone 423 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: someone good. I don't know who that is yet, you 424 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: know what I mean, but somebody needs to figure that out. 425 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: Who knows. It might be Blue and Joe Grande, right, it. 426 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: Could be Blue and Joe for president. 427 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 2: Right. But uh, anyways, before we get out of here, 428 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: we want to give a huge shout out to the 429 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: staff without Without them, were nothing Without them, I am nothing. 430 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. 431 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: To Adrian Amy, Emir Mary, Magazine, Mondo, Mikayla Nicks, Elizabeth Ice, 432 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: Dog Zeus, Daniel Diego, Joe, Lupita, Litzi, Logan, Lorenzo, Gary Francisco, Carle, Connor, 433 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: cam Beach Bar, Salar Brandon, t Ollie Muffins, Sunday Og, 434 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: Skinny Ruby, Goldie Brother, Pitt, Mark Carnes, Chris Frankeno, Tony, Jennifer, 435 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: Erica and Elvis. 436 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: We thank you for all your hard work. 437 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 4: You guys pulled it the hell down mad respects, So 438 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: thank you. 439 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: Shout out to Elvis. I saw him and Joe went 440 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: up to San Jose and they just rocked that arena. 441 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Like the videos were shit. 442 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: I was kind of pissed if they didn't even say 443 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: nothing and invite me. I'm like, dude, I got a 444 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: fucking life too, man, I'd love to go fucking follow 445 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: you and shit, and just how I follow you around 446 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: the office. It's like Teddy does God damn. All right, anyways, 447 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: appreciate you guys tuning in. I'm Daniel and that's Connor 448 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: and this was news you can use well, you know, well, 449 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: we'll see you guys next time. 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