WEBVTT - Mamaw + Will 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.240 My microphone is right here, Rita on either side of 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:08.240 the microphone or two screws. Tighten the screws and the 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.840 microphone will face you. Yeah, I'm tightening them up. Now 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.600 you can say you were screwed. Listen, Allen, this is 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.080 a family show. Who is going to be on our 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:23.280 podcast today? Today we have Will and his mamma. Will 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:28.000 is the chief operating officer of I Heart Radio podcasts. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.440 Oh my god, we'd better really be good today. We're 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.080 working with that boss is okay, we have to be 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.360 specially good today, Allen. Listen. Even the boss has a mamma. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:44.240 Everybody has a mammo, Grandma, Nana, you name it, Bobby, Zada, Nona, right, 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:54.240 Will mamour poll Duke through again by one point? Date 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.880 that North Carolina, so you can burn the bitches. What 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.360 a game? I hope you are. It was something else, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.520 but I pulled them through. Okay, tell them my sweet 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:13.040 girl that we wanted by mamma. While we're waiting. How 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:17.800 did Duke look yesterday? Oh, Duke, they did great. They 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.039 did their free throws. They really did great. Now. I 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.720 like Georgia cause I went to the University of Georgia, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.520 but I like dude, cause you went to Duke. Yeah, 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.640 that's right. So if you want to know about what 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:39.600 Mammo locks, I like those grandkids. Now, your kids are okay, 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:44.440 but the grandkids now they're just really really special, special special. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.560 It's true. My name is will and I'm joined by Nadine, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.160 more commonly known as Mamma to those of us in 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.880 the family or anyone else who knows her. She is 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.840 ninety four years old and she lives in Birmingham, Alabama. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.040 I actually don't know the agent because I was the 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.760 baby cousin and the family, so I just knew from 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.280 day one that she was mamma. But it is not 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:11.480 an uncommon name for grandmother in the Southeast. Will Oh, 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.720 he's just the best. I tell you what. I remember 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.000 when he was born, he was cutest little thing and 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.120 he's been that way all of his laugh just so cute. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.240 Energy is the first word that comes to mind, and 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.079 it's contagious no matter what you're feeling, like when Mamma 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.440 wants to do something, it's impossible to say no. When 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.640 I picture Mamma's house, the first thing I imagine is candy. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.840 We each have our favorite candies that she knows she 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.160 needs to put out, whether it's peanut Eminem's for one 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.119 of my cousins, whether it's yes, the disgusting circus peanuts. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.360 I will confess I love circus peanuts. I understand that 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.320 other people find them disgusting, but Mamma knows that I 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.400 like them, and so she always has very stale circus peanuts, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.400 which are when they're at their best, if we're being honest. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.840 She's done this my entire life, and I love it. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.839 I remember when I told him to swim. I thought, now, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.280 you know, he's just really good at this, and he 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.359 got really good and dive off the diving board and 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.760 high diving board. I thought, this little boy's gonna do 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.160 a lot of things. He's just real sharp. He and 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:22.240 his buddy Mango decided to do a magazine. They got 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.040 the magazine and published it. She's talking about mental floss. Yeah, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.600 it was a great magazine. They had a lot of 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.280 fun doing it. Later he went to my Heart Radio, 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.120 so I think he hangs out there some. Now. I 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:41.520 think he likes that company's pretty good. Yeah, it is 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.680 pretty good, Mamma. Mammo taught him a lot, and Mammo 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.680 did modeling and I taught him how to model. That's 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:55.240 a quite so cute, that's quite a good looking. Mamma 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.520 was always a unique grandmother. She was always moving at 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.040 a pace faster than all of us. There was always 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.120 an energy that to this day puts all of us 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.480 to shame. Like I really believe that if you told 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:07.800 her she was going to get out there on the 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.960 golf course today with some you know, LPGA professional golfers, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.040 she would see no reason why she couldn't jump out 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.080 there and just compete with them, right that, just because 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.760 she believed she could. Well, we never did tell him 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.440 about And they're taking you a little dog to school. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.359 Tell him about that, Mamma. When you wanted to do something, 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.720 you didn't ask permission, You just did it. He was 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.840 in school and I took him a little shepherd dog. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.520 He named it Sports. Fittingly, the dog's name was Sport, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.960 which felt right for a dog from Mama. So I 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.560 was in third grade. I think my parents had no 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.960 idea about this. And Mama pulls up to the elementary 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:50.720 school with a Shetland sheep dog and just straight up 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.600 walks in the school during the middle of lunch, and 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.200 of course all the kids just go wild because here's 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.120 this puppy. But that kind of summarized mamma. So you 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.120 didn't tell mama, know, and so we just had a puppy. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.080 After that, I was a very sweet dog. We'll see, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:11.200 that's what mammals do. Oh, I loved it. I just 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:16.880 was wonderful. Is that adorable? Ninety four? The mind and 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.480 the mouths are terrific. And that Southern accent, it just 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.320 gets me. And can you imagine the inspiration she gives 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:31.240 these grandkids. Her energy, her outlook, her free spirit terrific. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.320 I loved everything except that he's a dukie because I 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:40.159 come from three generations of tarts. I know, I know, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.479 But you gotta love her. Even if she went to 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.320 your Shia, Ellen, if she went to Yeshiva University, you 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.920 would love her. She's got that kind of a personality. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.040 Read it. You know, she is very very much like 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.520 many of the grandmothers that I met when I used 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.280 to go down and visit my in laws in North Carolina. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.720 There's something very special about Southern grandmothers. They have no filter. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.479 There's a Jewish expression bus is often longest, often sung, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.480 and that means what's in your heart on your your 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.040 longest on your tongue. That's how these Southern grandmothers are terrific. Listen, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.360 I'm going to be ninety two, and I wish I'll 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.240 have our energy if I ever get to ninety four, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.320 If you don't all have to kill you, well, well, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.599 at least finished our grandmother podcast. I promise I will 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.760 be here as long as I can. If I was 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.400 a Mammo, I'll be here. What energy and what inspiration? 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.880 And it's so cute the way he really enjoys everything. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.400 That love has a sound. It's so sweet. Oh God, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.719 and man that I heard it. What is mental floss? 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.120 I heard of it, but I don't know how I 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.200 heard of it. Listen, I have a son in law 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.720 a dentist, and my daughter to dental floss. Mental flaws. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.200 That's all I know's dental floss. I don't know anything 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.920 about mental flaws. I have nothing to narrow up here. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.320 Oh God. We learned something every day, and if we 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:10.120 can remember it for the next day, we're thinking that 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:17.520 learning it is one thing, remember learning another. Okay, we're 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:22.800 ready with part one. Most outstanding Lady Pilot. I can't 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.360 wait to hear this. This looks like a woman that 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.520 can do anything and everything. One of my favorite things 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.280 about your ma'm as you've always decided if there was 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.679 something you wanted to do, you just did it. Yeah, 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.520 I don't know. I just decided to model, and I 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:43.240 modeled everywhere. Then I decided one flyer planes. So I 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.720 took lessons and learned to fly, and then I learned 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.920 to Banjoe oh, and I played the piano. All took 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.360 lessons and I love singing. And Will has a beautiful voice. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.600 When he was in school, you sang a solo and 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.000 it was really pretty well, thank you. And Penny Rose 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.200 has a beautiful voice. She does. Do you have any 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.200 favorite songs that you like to sing? One of them 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.840 a lot so well, and I did so well. It 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.240 was the National Anthem. I can do that one just 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.320 about perfect. Yeah, I agree, I've heard you sing it before. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.520 What made you decide you wanted to go learn how 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.240 to fly and be a pilot. I just thought, the 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.160 sky is so beautiful up there, and it is when 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.600 you get up there flying around. It's so pretty up there, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.000 and I thought, I believe I want to go try 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.199 that out. The one that taught me to fly talked 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.120 the Blue angels and thunderbirds, and he was great. He said, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.720 you don't ever have to worry about flying because I 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.720 taught you to fly. So my husband Charlie Rose, just 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.520 to clarify, we are talking about my grandfather Charlie Rose, 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.079 not the Charlie Rose that everyone might have known from television. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.160 He got back and he said, what are you doing. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.360 I said, I'm learning to fly. What I said, yeah, 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.880 it's a lot of fun. Well, I think I'll go 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.320 up there to the airport and see what you've checking into. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.000 And he said, you know what, that's the most fun 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.280 thing I've ever done in my life. He love flying. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.800 You got pretty good at it, didn't you. Oh yeah. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.800 We got in the Civil Air Patrol, hunted down to 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:27.040 aircraft it any time day, night, and I got Most 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.920 Outstanding Lady Polot for Alabama twice. The one reason is 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.600 we found a guy at Late Martin. His plane went 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.640 down in the lake and I knew how to find him, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.720 so we found him. So that's how I got Most 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.080 Outstanding Lady Polot. Were you scared the first time you 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.960 ever flew? No? No, no, no, I wanted to go fly. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.400 It was great. You just laying that airplane just ship. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.280 It's just great, much of fun. Never scared, you were fearless, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.520 and then you get up there in the sky and 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:04.120 it's so pretty. I know this one instructor said, night, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.160 and I'm gonna fly with you today. I said, come on, well, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.800 we're gonna do some different turns and spins and stuff. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.400 I said, you're gonna do what I'm gonna do. You're 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.400 flying with me, and come on. So we went flying 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:23.319 all around. Next day, I was home fixing my face 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.199 to go the airports, and they called me and said 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:33.040 that that instructor died that day. He was in with 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:37.000 the student and the student crossed the plane and killed him. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:42.200 Now that's tragic. Did that make you scared to fly anymore? No? No, no, no, no, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:52.200 no no, it's just an accident that happened. Yeah. She 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.559 is amazing, amazing, amazing, the mind, the energy. Me. I 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.720 get on a commercial plane and I'm hold in the sides, 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.280 and then she becomes a pilot with no fear, with 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.640 such confidence. I thought I was terrific because I could 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.120 drive a stick shift. I'm calling Jeff Bezos and he's 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.160 got the astronaut that goes into the sky. She's got 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:19.760 to be one of his passengers. She's unbelievable. She is terrific, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.480 and she should have there's an expression till a hundred 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:27.440 and twenty right. My mother used to say that's right, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.760 and that southern accent that gets me all the way. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.160 It's just so infectious. It's really cute. I think that 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.200 men who are married to women like that sort of 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.520 go along with the flow, and it sort of gives 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.400 them permission to do these things. She's the kind of 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.800 a woman it doesn't matter if her husband agreed or disagree. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.400 She's gonna do what she's gonna do no matter what. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.000 If he didn't like it, he wouldn't fly. But she's infectious. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.080 She brings all these things into a person's life and 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.120 you go along with it. I mean, see how the 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.120 woman lives. She's doing something right, that's for sure. She's very, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.679 very tough. Absolutely, we have to thank Will for letting 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.560 us listen to him and his relationship with Mamoir. It's 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.280 really special. It's very special, made my day. Gotta be 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.640 one of my favorites. We have to take a break 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.480 now because I'm getting a permanent dent in my head 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.319 from these headphones. I feel like my heart Radio should 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.520 pay for us to go to the beauty Paula after 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:32.000 having these headphones on all day. It's worth it. Anything 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:43.120 is worth it for our care. Your Grandmother Podcast. I'm 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.880 back and my dentist fixed. But now I'm putting the 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.560 headphones on again. Annie. Here we go again with a 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:56.080 brand new dent Part two. Lingerie for Doctors, Ellen, This 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.839 sounds intriguing somehow. I have a feeling that she does 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.920 mind a life of linger or something. She does everything else. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.360 She could be doing that too, who knows, Maybe she's 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:15.240 starting med school. It could be. Mamma, you always dressed 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.920 so well, and all of my friends in high school 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.240 would always comment on it because you'd always have some 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.959 sort of leather or something like that on that looked 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.360 really good, and they called you leather Mamma. Do you 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:30.079 remember this. I started to wear a leather jacket today. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:35.040 That's so pretty, Saint John. Yeah, you've always liked getting 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.640 dressed up and being very fashionable. Have you been like 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.240 that your whole life? We'll see. That's how I got 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:46.200 into modeling, because I act it soil. I love shorts shorts. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:55.000 Somebody sus modeled Lingerie for Doctors. The doctors wanted to 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.400 just say the outfits for the women in a model 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:03.080 lingerie for um, that was fun. Where you at the 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.080 doctor's office for this, No, the doctors came to a 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.800 place in Coleman. Oh. We had All Steak there that 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.880 was famous and they had a big place upstairs, sort 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.319 of like a doctor's convention or something. So the doctors 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.520 came to the restaurant to watch the model and got it. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.440 You remember the All Steak restaurant, of course I do. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.320 They're famous for their orange rolls. It was much fun. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.119 I'm a member of the International ninety nine Lady Pilots 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.160 and I modeled bathing suits for the International ninety nine 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.800 convention for the ladies. What do you like about modeling? 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.840 And what do you think makes you good at it? 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.640 It was just fun. They'd just say, give her the runway. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:53.120 She don't even need any instructions. I just liked the model. Well, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.920 how did you get into it? At first? Just people 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.880 ask me to model because they thought I'll do soil 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:05.640 on it. He knows how to model. She's just saying 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:11.440 that he's mom and good. You watch him walk, he's good. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.360 I didn't know that my fancy walk came from you, Mamma, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.680 I should have done that all along. That is so, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.120 this woman is a piece of work. She is absolutely 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.120 the most adorable. I would love to be her friend. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.840 What kind of doctors that most that go to see 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.480 laundry rate kind of weird? I don't know if I 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.880 would go to that kind of adopt It frightens me 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.280 a little bit of such busy doctors they got time 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.760 to go see a woman modeling laundry, don't know. Let's 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.640 put it this way. If that restaurant was exactly kosher, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.040 I don't know. I don't know, but I would love 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.920 to see her today. I bet you she's stunning. Don't 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.600 you love to go to lunch with her? Areta? Absolutely, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.960 We're going to have to speak to Will and have 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.360 her come to New York City and we all have 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.760 to go down to visit with her. What else can 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.320 we expect from her? I think that she is a 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.240 woman of many parts and that we are going to 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.960 be surprised over and over and over again. Right, we're 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:11.880 only up to part three, and we're shocked. Part three 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:18.560 the white horse Ellen guaranteed she's an equestrian of a 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.840 white horse. So far, she's flown a plane, and she's modeled, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.240 and she brought a dog to school. So I don't 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.200 know where that horse was. That horse is coming into 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.800 the picture. Listen. For all we know, she was in 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.840 the Olympics with the horse show. You never know. I 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.800 don't know what to expect from what we're going to see. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.520 We've always talked about how you believed you could do 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.120 anything and had a positive outlook on life. Where do 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.880 you think that came from. I was born in Chattanooga, Tennessee. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.080 Then my mother and dad is separated, so I was 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:59.400 with my grandparents. And Grandma was a lot like this 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.080 Laura Bell book out. She went to New York and 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.320 took piano lessons, and she loved the Bible. She read 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.760 that Bible through and through and through and through. She 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.720 was great. She was a real funny person. Yeah, and 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.720 Grandpa's book out was a lot like that. He had 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.840 a lot of land and we had a grocery store, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.399 of filling station, and amusement park. We had a little 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.400 motel too. Yeah. We even had races there and had 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.720 entertainers to come into the place and sing, dance or what. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.800 And that's where I grew up. Now, did you work there. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.040 Oh sure. I worked in the grocery store and go 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.959 fill up the car and old fashion store and station. Yeah, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.040 that's pretty neat. That's a long time ago. I remember 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.800 you telling me about the property there, about you having 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.960 a white horse horse. Yeah, I liked that horse a lot. 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.359 I came down the highway on that horse riding it. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.440 But I was in a hurry going down the highway 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.200 and his big old bus coming by, and I gave 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.600 him a little kick and he threw me off. Well. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.840 I had two brothers, one of them was Jim. Jim 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.480 said that she's dead. Well, I wasn't dead. I didn't die, 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.840 but I was upset with that horse. Yeah. Did you 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:21.600 ride it again after that? Of course I did. So. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.359 You talked about Charlie Rose, who was my grandfather. We 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.879 called him Papa. What was it that made you like 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.639 him so much? He was one of the finest people 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.760 that you'll ever meet. In fact, Will is a lot 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.280 like him, and so is his daddy. And he was 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:44.960 just a fine person, real intelligent person. Everybody loved Charlie Rose. 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:50.479 He died in nineteen ninety. With Harry set Loukima, we 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.800 went to Lahoya, California, and they said they cured it, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:59.199 but we got home in seven days later he was dead. So, yeah, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.359 that's not very good thing to catch. Yeah, it was 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.720 a tough time for sure. Papa was kind of a 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.399 larger than life figure in all of our lives. It 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.440 was definitely a period of shock and of course great sadness, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.800 but also a thankfulness for everything that we've got into 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.919 experience with Papa. Do you remember when you first started 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.440 going on dates with him? What was that like? He 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.719 went to school at Georgia and he came to my 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.600 school to teach and to coach the basketball team, and 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.240 I was on the basketball team. Well, my granddaddy says, 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.320 I don't know about that little guy that's coming to 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:41.320 see you. I don't know about that guy. His daddy 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.760 gave him a brand new little car, and he came 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:49.160 flying in that little car, and Grandpa thought, well, he's 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.840 a pretty little thing, you know, come flewing in there, 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.840 brand new car and young guy out of college. I 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.440 get it. He probably just didn't quite trust him at first. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.720 Did he end up liking him? How did Papa win 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.480 him over? Oh? Yeah, he locked him after a while. 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:13.879 He was always the funniest person, just real fun Papa 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.480 had a habit of because they lived out in the country, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.960 he just decided when he got home he would wear 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.919 nothing but his underwear. And so he just whether he 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.040 was outside, inside wherever, so people would pull up the 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.000 visit and there he would be in his underwear. And 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:27.879 so I decided I would do the same thing, and 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.520 so we just played outside doing that and just had 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.560 a blast. Papa is pretty cute. He was hilarious. We 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.560 just fell in love and really had a good time 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:43.720 together all the years we were together. Oh what a 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.320 nice background will is coming from. It's a real love story. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.320 From beginning to end, this has been a love story. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.280 And could you just see him walking outside in his underwear? 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.040 I mean, what a nice heritage he has. I was 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.880 thinking the same thing. I think this is a wonderful family. Really, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.600 they live, they savor their lives and everything. Could you 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.120 see her with the white horse running down? It reminds 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.479 me here of that movie with Sander Bullock riding away 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.760 on a horse. Every time she'd ride away and a 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.439 horse to get married. That was the Runaway Bride or 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.440 something exactly. But so I could just see Memo on 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.440 this white horse running away. Oh my god, you're so special. Well, 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.679 she's much older than you. I'm not riding a horse, 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.960 and I'm not flying in a plane, that's for sure. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.200 If I go on the M four bus on Broadway, 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.600 that's the adventurous as I'm getting. Or in an Oba, 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:44.320 my white horse is called ober and mine is called Excess. 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.440 That's right. After the horse threw her off, she got 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.760 back on the horse. Well, I think that that's the 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.320 story of her life. That's right. But she always got 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.200 back on the horse. You get back on the white horse. 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.760 That's a good thing. Get back on the white horse. 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:05.720 That's my new motto. Hard four banana pudding for Michael Jordan's. 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:10.520 Do you think she cooked banana pudding for Michael Jordan's unbelievable. 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.439 Maybe she decided she wanted to bring him something to 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.719 fatten him up. Probably when he was at Carolina Ellen. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.600 She could fly a plane to heavy he was give 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:25.600 him the banana pudding. Anything, It's possible. With Mamla. None 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.400 of us were allowed to grow up without learning how 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.840 to swim. Why was that so important to you? I 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.200 learned to swim in a creek with my brothers, and 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.919 then later I was a certified swimming struke or not. 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.159 Taught everybody to swim, never did charge anybody a penny, 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.879 but just wanted everybody to swim. You've kept swimming your 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.199 whole life. You participated in the Senior Olympics. Oh, I 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:54.080 want seven eight of those for the state. Do you 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.439 think it helped you, Mama, with the guys that you 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:00.560 were so interested in sports? Probably so, because I was 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:05.320 pretty good at it. But girls like sports too. You've 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.320 always taught us that. When I was a kid, our 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.760 minor league baseball team here it's called the Birmingham Barons, 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.960 and you were one of their biggest fans. I know it. 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:19.200 I fixed ice cream in banana, putting everything for those Barons, 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.960 and they loved it. I remember when Michael Jordans came. Yeah, 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:27.560 this was in his two year break from playing basketball. Yeah. Yeah, 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.920 So the Chicago White Sox have a minor league team 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.600 in Birmingham, and so he came to play for the 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.040 Birmingham Barons, and that is, of course Mamma's team. And 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.440 I liked Michael a lot. I made his children, and 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.080 Michael and I were pretty good buddies. It was funny 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.719 because Michael Jordan would pull up and have a parking 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.399 space that I'm not kidding was a few spaces down 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.120 from Mamma's. And then you just see them talking as 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:54.280 he was walking into the stadium. She'd be there early 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:57.320 because she'd be preparing some of the meals before the game, 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.359 and it was pretty cute, this tiny older lady with Michael, 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.680 and I really do believe that he would probably remember 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.760 Mamma even this many years later. His wife and children 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.800 was NiFe. Did come into the stadium with me, and 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.639 so I sent him some stuff when he went to 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:16.120 another place, and he really thanked me. In fact, the 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:20.439 newspapers in the magazines came to talk to me about him, 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.760 speaking of which I don't know if you remember this, Mamma, 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.320 but when you were at a Baron's game one time, 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.239 they had a contest to see who could bark the 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.800 loudest to win some free dog food. You won the 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.919 dog food. But the best part about it was you 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.639