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Speaker 1: Will mamour poll Duke through again by one point? Date

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Speaker 1: more commonly known as Mamma to those of us in

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Speaker 1: and so when you meet her you can't help but

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Speaker 1: want to chat with her. We were at a charity

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Speaker 1: event one time and Charles Barkley was there across the

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Speaker 1: room and Mamma decided she wanted to go meet Charles Barkley,

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Speaker 1: and we thought, well, Mama, he's very busy. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people over there talking to him. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if we can make that happen later. And I swear

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Speaker 1: it was like we turned our backs. She's across the room,

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Speaker 1: in front of the line of everybody else, arms literally

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Speaker 1: around his neck. This man is, you know, probably six

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Speaker 1: ft seven. He's a tall guy, and she's not. She's

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Speaker 1: probably five three five four, and she has her arms

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00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: wrapped around his neck. He's leaning over there, basically face

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Speaker 1: to face. That's just always been the way she worked.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, everything she does there's an expression he

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00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: failed from. He gets joy of seeing how do these

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Speaker 1: things that are so unusual? He appreciates it. Can you

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00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: imagine she's telling coach k practice practice. She's an influence

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Speaker 1: on whoever she meets. How many kids could say my

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Speaker 1: grandmother made a banana putting for Michael Jordan's all right,

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00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking off the headphones. I have to fix my

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Speaker 1: hair because I'm going to walk my dog and maybe

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Speaker 1: i'll meet a neighbor. Read it's a look. It's definitely

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00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: a look. We're back, doggies walked, We're ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and another dent and now we have come to the

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Speaker 1: last part, Part five. Just do it. Oh, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: This is the list part. I could go on with

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00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: her forever, but let's just do it. Ellen, there was

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Speaker 1: something I was thinking about that was a little bit

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Speaker 1: unrelated to all of this. So you remarried. You remarried

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Speaker 1: a man named Jim, one of my favorite people. If

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Speaker 1: you remember, at Christmas one year, you gave Jim a

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Speaker 1: very special gift that was in a frame and all

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Speaker 1: the grandkids were there when you gave Jim this special portrait.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this? I'll have one in the bathroom

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00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: now and it is a real nice portrait. It is nice.

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Speaker 1: When she and my mom were at a museum, there

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00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: was a nude and she thought this was so interesting,

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Speaker 1: and she asked my mom if my mom thought nudes

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Speaker 1: were appropriate. This was when my grandmother was in her seventies,

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00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: and so my mom says, yes, that's appropriate, of course,

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00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: thinking about like an artist. So fast forward to Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve and we're all sitting around opening gifts and everything,

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Speaker 1: and she hands this gift to Jim and Jim opens

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Speaker 1: it up and his face turns beat red, and we're like, Jim,

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Speaker 1: show us what it is. And Jim just looks at us.

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Speaker 1: He's like no, and we were like, Jim, come on,

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: and he shakes his head again and Jim turn it

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00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: around and show us, and so he finally turns it

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Speaker 1: and it is a nude portrait of my grandmother holding

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Speaker 1: a son hat over her breast. Can you describe it?

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Speaker 1: What is it like? It's just a picture of me

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00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: with a black thing across it and shows your arms

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00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: and all. This is real, pretty picture. Let's show it

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: to you when you go home. Yeah, I know I

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00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: remember it, but just think what would I like to

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00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: do tomorrow. Hey, let's go do it. I don't care

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00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: if it's raining, snow and sleet, and let's go do

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00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: it anyhow. Don't let little things bother you like that,

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00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Just do what you want to do. I do think

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: a lot of that inspiration played into the way that

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00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: her grandkids have all tried to live our lives, whether

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00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: people starting a company, whether in the case of Mangush

486
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: and me starting Mental Floss and feeling like there's no

487
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: reason we shouldn't go try to do this, even if

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00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: we have no experience in starting a media company, even

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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: if we're college kids. Just do whatever you want to do,

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00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: as long as you're not hurting anybody. Just God help you.

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00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: We're not smart enough to know what all to do,

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00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: so Wendy's some help. Thank you, Mama. I'll see some

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00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: money here. I guess that's for you. Maybe that's your

494
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: payment for doing this podcast. Mama, i'd say put it

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Speaker 1: in your pocket while nobody's looking. So. I love you

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00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: so much and I'm so glad you were willing to

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Speaker 1: spend some time with us today. Well, I sure enjoy

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00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: being with you all, I really do. Thank you, ma'ma.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come upstairs. This is fun. It's a lot

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00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: of fun. This was a gift. I have chance in

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00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: my eyes. I think that this young man has the

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00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: most glorious memories of this woman who obviously has shaped

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00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: his life in a lot of ways. You know. It

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00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: reminds me, not not that I'm ever ever going to

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00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: compare myself to her, but the one thing I always

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00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: try to say is don't say no. Whatever life has

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00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: to offer, take advantage of it, because that time may

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00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: never come around again. And that's why they're all successful

509
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if you follow whole way, just do it,

510
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: have confidence as yourself and if you want to swim,

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00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: practice play bullpractice and you know what, and put that attitude.

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00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: You never saw a rejection. You can't reject a person

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00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: like that. There's such a love and enjoy in her way.

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00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: If she's living, you have to accept it, and that's

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00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: why everybody loves her. Just listening to it with such

516
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: a happy time. I'm hoping he'll keep this podcast is

517
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: going to be a treasure for him. And you know what,

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00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be a treasure for me when I

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: feel down in the dump. Life is here to live,

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00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: and she certainly has lived an unbelievable, beautiful life to

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Speaker 1: the fullest. Don't you have nude pictures in the bathroom?

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Speaker 1: Not of me? I have a little nude picture that

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00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: says bath on it, because if I didn't have that picture,

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: that would be paying on my clothes in the closet.

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00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: But read it's not, you know, my picture of nudity.

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: You would never get to see. I don't even look

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00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: in the mirror. When I was young, I was okay,

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00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: but now you know, pardon me, the boobs are hanging

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00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: ninety two nothing is perking. I just don't look. You

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00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: just don't look in the mirror that room. I don't

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00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: look anymore. I only have a mirror that shows from

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00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: the facetop. That's me when I put my makeup on,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. So hey, Mama. There's the Big Awards

534
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: every year, and this podcast called Call Your Grandmother was

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00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: nominated as one of the best podcasts. Isn't that neat?

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Speaker 1: Who was? This show that You're on right now was

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Speaker 1: nominated as one of the best shows. Oh I lock

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Speaker 1: that Call Your Grandmother is a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network and Superb Entertainment. Our lead producers are Shina

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00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Ozaki and Nora cb. Executive producers are Narrow Poster, Nikki Echo,

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Speaker 1: and Anna Stump. Managing producer is Lindsay Hoffman. Mastering by

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Speaker 1: Bahed Frasier. A theme song is by Anna Stump and

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's Lighthouser. What else do you like to watch? Or reader?

544
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Those kinds of things a lot? Some of the Hallmark

545
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: movies are good, they're best, the best ones. I think

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Speaker 1: that they took them off the station for a while

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00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: and I had a fit about it, so they put

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Speaker 1: them back on, so they're on all the time. Now,

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Speaker 1: what did you do to get them back on? I

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Speaker 1: called them, I call the stations, and I said, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose a lot of people if you don't put

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Speaker 1: those back on. So listen to call your grandmother on

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts, and don't forget. Leave us a glowing

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