WEBVTT - Drive Time: 10 Draft Prospect Fits for the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>To on remove Glum Deep speeds Peas DOSD from the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Health Studio.

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<v Speaker 2>This inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is Drivetime

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<v Speaker 2>with Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got my advans in the playoffs. One is up

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Travis Wingfilm and on today's show, we are

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<v Speaker 1>off to the combine next week. Before that, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and get our first look at the underclassmen in

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<v Speaker 1>the post season setting. We're gonna go down a list

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<v Speaker 1>of draft prospects, identify ten guys that stand out to

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<v Speaker 1>me as potential fits for your Miami Dolphins, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of them, nine of them are first or second round

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<v Speaker 1>picks in that option area. From the Baptist Hill Studios

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Time Podcast. Let's go ahead and kick this show off

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<v Speaker 1>here with some thoughts and you know how every draft

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<v Speaker 1>seems to take on a certain shape. I recall back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two, the draft being one where and

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<v Speaker 1>this was due in large part to the absence of

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten cornerback prospect, just one first rounder who

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<v Speaker 1>probably goes in a training camp at best in a

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<v Speaker 1>competition this year Kenny Pickett, but a draft where they

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<v Speaker 1>said the talent was best from like one to fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>and then again from like thirty five to seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And in hindsight it does seem

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit arbitrary to me. And look, I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to speak against my own living here. But the more

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<v Speaker 1>draft study I do, just like the rest of football,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I realized how much the hand ringing is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty frivolous. I always pointing back to the Seahawks there,

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman draft class and how

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<v Speaker 1>it was given an F on I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN gave him an F following the draft or the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen Saints class. I'll never forget a popular podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I'll call him out the Around the NFL podcast criticizing

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints as one of the biggest losers of the

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<v Speaker 1>draft because they didn't address what their perceived needs for

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints were, and that was the year they got

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<v Speaker 1>Marshawn Lattimore, Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Ram ram Trek, Alvin CARMERA.

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's try that again, Marcus Latimore, Ryan Ramchek, Alvin Kamara,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Williams, Trey Hendrickson, Alex Anzeloni, and al Kaden Muhammad

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<v Speaker 1>literally all plus starters, and half of those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>like all pro caliber players. It's literally the greatest draft

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<v Speaker 1>class of all time. And that's most of the league. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We draw these grand conclusions for what will happen in

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<v Speaker 1>September or January for that matter, from moves that happened

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<v Speaker 1>in March with free agency, April, with the draft. Throughout

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, we all build up this grand prediction, this

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<v Speaker 1>grand this is who you are. And then we play

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<v Speaker 1>like one or two football games and that changes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then who that football team becomes in those couple of

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<v Speaker 1>games change again come the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, collectively, we move mountains regarding opinions on players from

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<v Speaker 1>one month to the next, from one week to the next,

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<v Speaker 1>on some occasions, from one series to the next. In

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<v Speaker 1>some situations, I recall reading tweets about the Dolphins answering

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<v Speaker 1>every question about them in that Dallas game, And I

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<v Speaker 1>take no pride in saying this, but how'd that turn

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<v Speaker 1>out for you? The point is things change fast. Perceptions

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<v Speaker 1>are altered quickly, Reality shifts.

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<v Speaker 2>In a moment in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's the longest preamble into draft class strengths and

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<v Speaker 1>weaknescis you'll ever hear. I will say, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>exercise of what if truly is pointless at its core,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the educational nature of it and the process

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<v Speaker 1>that gives you a baseline or even just a jumping

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<v Speaker 1>off point, I think there's a ton of value in

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<v Speaker 1>that because you can reate, reference back to it and

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<v Speaker 1>make your future evaluations, your future podcast, your game evaluations

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<v Speaker 1>and skill sets and training camp reviews. You can reference

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<v Speaker 1>back to how you felt prior to that player arriving

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<v Speaker 1>in that positions. So you are gonna waste a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time on draft prep if you work for in

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<v Speaker 1>my instance, for one single team that you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>nail these prospects down. But ultimately that work does pay

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<v Speaker 1>off on the other side. But trying to predict it

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<v Speaker 1>and then being steadfast and indignant in those predictions, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I think the disconnect comes from. Sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 1>make your draft takes, you get clipped off for the

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<v Speaker 1>intro of a Buffalo Bills podcast the Rock Pile Report,

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<v Speaker 1>after you say, Josh Allen has skyscraper altering ability after

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted him in twenty eighteen, and they're gonna build

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<v Speaker 1>a new stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a spot on take.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you think Deon Jordan was the best pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire draft. Yes, those are actually both takes of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of you remember the twenty eighteen draft coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>None of you know about my amateur scouting in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>when I thought I knew a lot didn't know much.

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<v Speaker 1>And that mention of twenty thirteen is my five minute preamble.

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<v Speaker 1>And to bring us back full circle to that opening

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<v Speaker 1>line about the twenty twenty two draft class, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>having this discussion at length the idea of using the

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick that year on Tyreek Hill and

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<v Speaker 1>then some but that was the gem of the package, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or using a twenty twenty three first round pick on

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Chubb. And the twenty twenty three class was heralded

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<v Speaker 1>as much more top heavy, a more talent laid in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round than twenty twenty two was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also recall.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing an exercise when we would have picked, there had

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<v Speaker 1>already been six pass rushers off the board, So it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes Bradley Chubb versus well, Miles Murphy went once bought

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the Dolphins. The next edge selected was Felix

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<v Speaker 1>and aduque Uzama from the Chiefs, who barely played twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the snaps this year. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth edge taken in that class. In Tyreek's year, the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver after our spot was Christian Watson at pick

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four. He was the seventh receiver taken. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the Dolphins really maximize those draft picks to

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<v Speaker 1>produce talent on the field with immediate production, which should

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<v Speaker 1>not be slided for a guy that takes a year

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<v Speaker 1>to develop. If you get an extra year of production,

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<v Speaker 1>that should count towards the cumulative weight of that move

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<v Speaker 1>that you made.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the NFL's best receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Tyreek Hill, we think we all agree, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least top three at minimum, and a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>top ten and literally every single pass rush category you

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<v Speaker 1>can conjure up.

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<v Speaker 2>So this year, this season, what is the pre.

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<v Speaker 1>Draft balance in terms of talent, fit, positional strength, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to play some clips I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think on the Monday podcast from Daniel Jeremiah's Thursday press

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<v Speaker 1>conference with a contingency of football schlubs like myself, football

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<v Speaker 1>media slubs, I should say, and I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>some of that, but I want to ask him about

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<v Speaker 1>this because you know, he's going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>strength in this class and everybody's going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it all draft process long is across the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where this entire opening segment kind of came from,

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<v Speaker 1>is that everybody's going to tell you how good this

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<v Speaker 1>O line is. And I want to revisit Daniel Jeremiah's

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<v Speaker 1>Top fifty that he produced back in January and has

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<v Speaker 1>since done mock draft. One point zero and two point

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<v Speaker 1>zero inside the top fifty. This is what he has

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<v Speaker 1>as far as offensive line prospects. Seven oh line in

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<v Speaker 1>the top eighteen of the class, and they're all tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>There's eight tackles inside his top fifty in general, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually top thirty seven. There's three interior offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>in the top fifty and they all check in between

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three and thirty seven, with Graham Barton from Duke,

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<v Speaker 1>who some think is the best un in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Powers Johnson, who I think is possibly the best

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<v Speaker 1>player in the draft. That's my opinion from Oregon and

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Frazer from West Virginia, who's also a freaking stud.

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<v Speaker 1>All three of those guys are awesome, awesome football players.

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<v Speaker 1>That gives you eleven o line in the top fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually it's eleven in the top forty, or really

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven to be exact. So about every third or

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<v Speaker 1>fourth player through the first thirty seven players, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL network's most prided or most flauded draft expert

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<v Speaker 1>are offensive lineman. And what makes it even more interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're thinking at home, right, what a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>year to get some young, cheap, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Offensive line talent. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and I'm saying this because it's tough, man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the free agent offensive line market, and

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this all the time. Traditionally it produces

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<v Speaker 1>awful return value for the investor you're paying. You're getting

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty cents on the dollar for those players. It

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<v Speaker 1>happens every single year. I've referenced. Kyle Krabs is a

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<v Speaker 1>great research project on Lockdown Dolphins where he looks at

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<v Speaker 1>guys that signed the big ticket, big tackle money, almost

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<v Speaker 1>a big ticket money at in free agency and they

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<v Speaker 1>produce at a level that is a fraction of what

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<v Speaker 1>they were with their first team at a salary that's

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<v Speaker 1>a much more than a fraction higher than what they're

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<v Speaker 1>making previously. So you're really you're dipping into a horrible market.

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<v Speaker 1>You're buying NFTs almost at that rate. Most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the top line guys don't shake free, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this, right And when you get them into

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<v Speaker 1>a new system with new teammates and a new coach,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say that the offensive line is where coaching and

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<v Speaker 1>continuity are by far the most important, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>be tough to replicate that success in a new environment.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's played out with the free agent draft classes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Mike McGlinchey last year. I remember all.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys I talked about him too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the solution at right tackle, right before I

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<v Speaker 1>find out Austin Jackson can actually play football, was to

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<v Speaker 1>go get Mike McGlinchey at like fifteen million bucks a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the probably one of the worst signings in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL last year, the Broncos of Mike McGlinchey.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, that's how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And look at Austin Jackson was a top ten right

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<v Speaker 1>tackle last year. It's crazy how the sport goes man

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<v Speaker 1>so like, and this is getting off the script at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, but like, remember in the twenty twenty one draft,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember many folks that were happy about Jayden

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips being the pick over Naji Harris. It was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>the smart pick at the time going forward, and it

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<v Speaker 1>still is. I remember that how many Dolphins fans thought

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a horrible move to not take Nase

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<v Speaker 1>Harris right there, who has been relegated to running back

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<v Speaker 1>two in Pittsburgh, Like, I don't know, man in a

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<v Speaker 1>position that's the cheapest in the league as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you have one of the best young pass rushers

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<v Speaker 1>on a rookie contract.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys would have gotten fired for that. I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So back to the tackle stuff, Tron has actually been

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an anomaly in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been franchise level when he's played. Now, injuries and

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<v Speaker 1>availability has made that conversation different. But when he plays,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably a top four or five left tackle in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. So that means that every team

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<v Speaker 1>is looking for offensive line help, right, you guys, know

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<v Speaker 1>the top seeded Ravens, the team that leads the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and rushing every year, and that's part of their quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but is often heralded for their offensive line play.

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<v Speaker 1>Allow me to read you a passage from a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>from one of their beat writers. This was Jeff Zubriac.

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<v Speaker 1>Help I got that right?

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<v Speaker 2>With it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now looking unlikely that Kevin Zeitler will be back, it's

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<v Speaker 1>become clear that slidifying the offensive line will be the

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<v Speaker 1>will be the Ravens offseason priority. Left guard John Simpson

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<v Speaker 1>is a pending free agent. Good player, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's me. He's talking Both tackles Stanley and Moses have age,

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<v Speaker 1>injury and contact contract questions. It's basically linderbaum and question marks.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think they're alone in that regard?

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<v Speaker 2>This is me talking good?

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<v Speaker 1>How many teams on Let's just pick Daniel Jeremiah's mock

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<v Speaker 1>does a list team needs?

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<v Speaker 2>Who does?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see NFL dot Com. Chad Ruter has us here.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job, so he's got every team's top five needs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying this is gospel, because like, who

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<v Speaker 1>is Kuad? Even gotta see it?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Chad Ruter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but I actually like Chad's works. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, but like he doesn't. I mean, his needs

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<v Speaker 1>are not Gospel's what I'm saying. But I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>can pinpoint about how many teams have offensive line listed

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<v Speaker 1>in there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess is going to be twenty five spots. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go down the list.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bears, picking first, their top need is interior

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. The Commanders have an interior offensive line need

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<v Speaker 1>at second pick. The Patriots third need, according to Chad Ruter,

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<v Speaker 1>is offensive tackle. The Cardinals third need is interior offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers fifth need is their center. That's close in

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<v Speaker 1>franch We're gonna count it. The Giant's third need is iol.

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<v Speaker 1>The Titans top need is tackle. We finally reach our

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<v Speaker 1>top team that does not have offensive line on their

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<v Speaker 1>top five needs, the Falcons. Then the Bears are up again.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Their top need is an offensive tackle. The Vikings a

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<v Speaker 1>guard is their third. Their third biggest need another team

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<v Speaker 1>without an offensive line need, according to Chad Ruter.

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<v Speaker 2>The Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>They did sign two top market offensive lineman last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ben Powers and Mike McGlinchey.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders have iol and ot as their second and third needs.

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<v Speaker 1>The Saints have tackle as their third need. The Colts

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an offensive line need. Three teams in so

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<v Speaker 1>far don't have needs on the offensive line. The Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>interior o line is third, Jags guard second, Bengals tackle second,

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<v Speaker 1>Rams no offensive line need really for sure with that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Steelers tackle second, interior line third, Dolphins interior offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line first. Eagles don't need the offensive line help Accord

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<v Speaker 1>and Chad Ruter. Texans tackle top need. Cowboys tackle top

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<v Speaker 1>need into your line third top need, Packers tackle second,

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<v Speaker 1>best biggest need into your offensive line. Fourth biggest need,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks interior line, third biggest need Cardinals again. Buffalo Bills

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<v Speaker 1>no offensive line need, and they got one thousand plus

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<v Speaker 1>snaps from all five guys that will never happen again

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<v Speaker 1>for them. The Lions guard second, Ravens we cover them

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<v Speaker 1>offensive guard second on the list, Niners tackle third, and

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<v Speaker 1>interior offensive line fourth, Chiefs third. Third need is a

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<v Speaker 1>tackle team without a first round pick, Panthers interior offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>Browns offensive tackle. So how many teams didn't have offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line as a top five need in that list? Twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six teams had it in their top five. Twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>teams had offensive line in their top three needs. Six

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<v Speaker 1>teams had offensive line as the top need. Five teams

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple o line spots as needs. So even when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a loaded offensive line class, the math tells me,

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<v Speaker 1>tells you, tells us a collective the Royal wi that

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<v Speaker 1>there will be teams left without a chair when this

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<v Speaker 1>music stops. Because, yeah, addressing and hitting five team needs

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<v Speaker 1>might be unrealistic, but I think it is realistic to

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<v Speaker 1>think you can fix three things on your football team

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<v Speaker 1>in an offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>And more than.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thirds of the teams have offensive line listed among

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<v Speaker 1>their top three needs.

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<v Speaker 2>So pick twenty one. What's there? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>But I know this offensive line class is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best we've ever seen just right now, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>in three years it could not be.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know.

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<v Speaker 1>The receiver class also very very good, very very deep.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been pretty common the last few years. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the running back position and tight end spots are much

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<v Speaker 1>more mid rounds this year opposed to what last year's

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<v Speaker 1>crop offered. I know the quarterback crop is more widespread.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we get an early run than a handful

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<v Speaker 1>more that go throughout rounds one and two, where last

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<v Speaker 1>year was just kind of the top guys than a

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<v Speaker 1>big dearth there. There's better into your defensive line prospects

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<v Speaker 1>than in years past, I would say, and the edge

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<v Speaker 1>group continues to turn out a bunch of just adonses. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the corner class is anywhere close to

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<v Speaker 1>what it has been, but I really like the crop

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<v Speaker 1>of safeties and nickels.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some crossover there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first segment, fifteen minutes, talking about what this

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<v Speaker 1>draft features, some of my own thoughts on it, the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line group, how every team's offensive line help. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and talk about the ten prospects that

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<v Speaker 1>are my favorite as of today. On February twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>that's next for the Dolphins. By the way, Draft Time Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>your host Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Brought to you back automation.

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<v Speaker 1>Really enjoying putting together those kind of just Travis's thoughts segments.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't done that on the Draft Time Podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>the last really since it began those more locked on

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins segments, but trying to get back to those roots

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<v Speaker 1>because it's what I enjoyed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's good content, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you guys like it as well, So let

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<v Speaker 1>me know if you agree or disagree or don't, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to do. I'm not the boss of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not your father. I'm not God. That's a big

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<v Speaker 2>old boss reference right there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys know how my notes got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit less on the free agent list as that went on.

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<v Speaker 1>This might be a little bit in the converse or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just randomly selected throughout because I talked about a

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<v Speaker 1>few of these guys a lot recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Just real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not done the quarterbacks yet. That's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a March project. I haven't don the running backs

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<v Speaker 1>yet because I just don't think we're in that market

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<v Speaker 1>really and it's not a great class for it either.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also remove the following players because I think

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<v Speaker 1>they are locks, and there are never locks in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft right but for the sake of not giving you

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<v Speaker 1>ten guys that are probably gonna be before we pick anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>here are the locks that I have that'll go off

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<v Speaker 1>the board before the twenty first pick. Marvin Harrison, Junior

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<v Speaker 1>Malik Neighbors, Rome Adunza, and Brock Bowers. For your skill players,

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<v Speaker 1>Alu Fashanu from Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I butchered.

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<v Speaker 1>That I haven't heard his name pronounced before, Joe Alt,

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<v Speaker 1>Amerius Mims, Talise Fuaga, Jared versus Dallas Turner, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could pencil in four quarterbacks that'll go

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty, which gives us fourteen total players.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty good number for the twenty first pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you eliminate so many guys, and you say, here

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<v Speaker 1>are eight guys that could be available seven picks before

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<v Speaker 1>you pick, which means you're gonna get one of those guys. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but also this exercise is not limited to the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, however, limited the top two rounds except for

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<v Speaker 1>my number ten guy. So that sounds confusing. But you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be with me. You'll be good, You'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hold your hand to this. And it starts with

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<v Speaker 1>the man in the middle in organ is Sasquatch a

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<v Speaker 1>potential nickname for this guy, just a three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty pound creature perus in the beautiful forestry of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Northwest, just knocking down any object that gets in

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<v Speaker 1>his way for the fun of it. It's Jackson Powers

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson the Center from Oregon. If you just remove the

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<v Speaker 1>position the value of said position as far as perception goes.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that, I think there's an argument that Powers

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is the number one overall player in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, tell me, these following traits aren't everything you

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<v Speaker 1>want in a high draft pick, a spot where you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking to first nail down a surefire, long term starter. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to do that because if you don't, it

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<v Speaker 1>sends a ripple effect throughout your franchise that impacts you negatively.

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<v Speaker 1>The teams that hit on the first round picks typically

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<v Speaker 1>have the best rosters. You need a guy to contribute

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time also, right, and probably early. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that would be a first round pick is

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<v Speaker 1>you want to contribute right away, but you also want

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<v Speaker 1>that upside, which is probably the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where you take the best balls of clay. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>However, the first part happens, but then they morph into

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<v Speaker 1>a true realization of their potential.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>JPJ is man find me some bad college tape, because

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't much of his There.

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<v Speaker 2>Just aren't really holes in his game.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very comfortable saying I know the floor I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting with this player that's number one. Number two, the

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<v Speaker 1>love of the game, the mindset, the approach, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that is there, and sometimes there's guesswork there. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't take more than a few snaps to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>guy just after the snap the things he does, to

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<v Speaker 1>see the passion that JPJ plays with. I said it before,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say it again. He reminds me of Christian Wilkins.

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<v Speaker 1>Number three. The upside is absolutely abundant. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>he was just three hundred and fifteen pounds doing the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that he does, that would be impressive. But damn it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving me an extra thirty pounds, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty right on top of all that. Usually the concession

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<v Speaker 1>at this position is we might just not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to rely on dominance in pass pro one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Jordan Davis who goes three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds and moves like he does, or to and Andre Sweat,

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas d tackle at three hundred and sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>who can also move and put you on your butt

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a three hundred and twenty pounds center or

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and ten pounds center like most of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are Jpg's three thirty be one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>hitars in the National Football League, and he can also

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<v Speaker 1>play guard too, So like, there's every argument for this

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<v Speaker 1>guy to be a high draft pick. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>he was a different position, he'd be a top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe top three pick. Because he's a center, we might

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance on him at twenty one. Every year,

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<v Speaker 1>every year I can look at a few players and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't fathom that this guy doesn't work out

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<v Speaker 1>as a great player. That's JPG this year. Number two

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<v Speaker 1>is like that for me as well. And outside linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>from UCLA Laatu Latu. I'm not at all privy to

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<v Speaker 1>what the timeline our expectations are with either JP or

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<v Speaker 1>Beachubb or Gink for that matter, ahead of his pending

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<v Speaker 1>free agency and their recoveries. But if you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be without those guys for X amount of games

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<v Speaker 1>and you need pass rush production right now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best option for it. And you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the idea of drafting that way, but this

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<v Speaker 1>provides you the benefit of scratching the itch right there,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, but also planning for the future. I

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<v Speaker 1>know the initial reaction is going to be the need

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<v Speaker 1>not being a top priority, and I get it, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Take good football players. You'll thank yourself

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<v Speaker 1>three years down the road. This dude is a great

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<v Speaker 1>football player. He's built like JP. Doesn't have quite the

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<v Speaker 1>explosiveness that JP had coming out, but he's far more

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<v Speaker 1>polished than JP was. I don't think that he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>here when we draft, but Daniel Jeremiah has n't done

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<v Speaker 1>on mock draft now, kind of like JP. There is

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<v Speaker 1>some injury history that could knock his value down. Is

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<v Speaker 1>why I think he has a chance to be there

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<v Speaker 1>at pick twenty one. But JP had no business being

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth in the draft, right lucky. Yes. The way that

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<v Speaker 1>he can and this is a law to again, The

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<v Speaker 1>way that he can seamlessly pivot into a secondary rush

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<v Speaker 1>after his first move fails or it looks like he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get pushed. He's been doing this at this

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<v Speaker 1>level for like a decade plus, Like it looks like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I get excited just thinking about it. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of power, quickness, and it means I think I

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<v Speaker 1>could kick him inside like JP does or dropping coverage

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<v Speaker 1>and be effective. He just has a feel and knack

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<v Speaker 1>for the game man Like listen, I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>the best edge rush tanem and football and two and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's how.

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<v Speaker 1>Much I love lat too. Would not hesitate to make

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<v Speaker 1>this pick if he's on the board right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt he does.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, shouldn't your top players be guys you think

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<v Speaker 1>could go earlier. That kind of tracks to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>will just never scoff at the idea of drafting a

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<v Speaker 1>premium position in the first round, even if it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a pressing need, especially in the back end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round where the money is not what it is

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten and it becomes a very cheap

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<v Speaker 1>player for four or five years. Because I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be wise to assume that JP is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be here a long time and Bradley Chubb isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere anytime soon. But he is twenty eight this summer

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<v Speaker 1>and coming off a second tour in ACL. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he probably has, you know, five really good years at

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<v Speaker 1>least in his tank. But when you pay you know,

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<v Speaker 1>JP in a year or two and he's on the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong side of thirty Chubb is that's when you then

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<v Speaker 1>shift your money around to keep yourself flexible. Right, JP

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<v Speaker 1>becomes what Chubb is now. A lot too becomes what

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<v Speaker 1>JP is now, and you do that again four years

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<v Speaker 1>after that, Rinse and repeat, Baby, the cycle never stops.

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<v Speaker 2>Leat two. Latsu a phenomenal football player. Number three.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy you've heard me talk about a lot

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Wilson, the receiver from Michigan. He's a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>Wattle and Tyreek in the way he sets up his sprouts. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>He's lean, has some nuance, those little head nods, and

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<v Speaker 1>perfect footwork explosion. I think the best feet in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire class. The speed that he has plays on crossers,

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<v Speaker 1>on double moves. You can design plays specifically for him

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<v Speaker 1>in the screen game and run game for us. We

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<v Speaker 1>already have two of those, probably now three with Hm.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can never get enough of those guys. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just a professional tact there as well. He makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his money on motion where he can manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>the defender before the snap, and he's great after it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. With that pacing of his movement, he can

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<v Speaker 1>just like kind of throttle you down, but accelerate when

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to. He knows how to use what gears,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also has sub four to four speed to boot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's how I would describe reek and waddle

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<v Speaker 1>and what's better than you know, two of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>three of them. I talked about him a ton on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast Big Fan. But one more thing I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>since I last mentioned him here on Drag Time is

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<v Speaker 1>that he grew up in Maui, Hawaii, Maui to be exact,

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<v Speaker 1>but he went to Saint Louis High School. That's two

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<v Speaker 1>was high school on Oahu, and for the first month

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<v Speaker 1>of his freshman year, he woke up at four am

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<v Speaker 1>to fly to the island of Wa Hoover School in

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<v Speaker 1>football practice. His dad worked at Alaska Airlines, so we

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<v Speaker 1>got free flights. Do you remember when you were fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old? I mean on a weekend, you couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>me out of bed before eleven am. If you told

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<v Speaker 1>me that Dan Rena and King Griffrey Junior were out

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<v Speaker 1>in the front yard tiding autographs for just Travis like

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<v Speaker 1>I was sleeping, not Roman Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>He was grinding.

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<v Speaker 1>I put number three. I don't have a number four

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<v Speaker 1>because I have two guys at number three. They tie

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<v Speaker 1>right here. It's another wide receiver. I have him deadlocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Malachai Corley from Western Kentucky in a deadlock. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>India gives me some type of separation around these two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, they are such different players too. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>speed queen.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it. That's why I listened to Roman first.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the kind of player I'm most intrigued

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<v Speaker 1>by because there's springs in his shoes, with exceptional acceleration,

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic deep threat ability, but the physicality to beat in

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<v Speaker 1>thwart press coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>He engages.

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<v Speaker 1>He swempes your hands off the press, he gets into

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<v Speaker 1>the route. He takes everything like physically personally like don't

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<v Speaker 1>touch me, don't touch me. He dominates the hand fight

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<v Speaker 1>up the stem, takes press coverage and tacklers like in

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<v Speaker 1>a personal offense, a personal attack on him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>steam rolls guys in either capacity. He's five foot ten

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<v Speaker 1>two ten, No five foot ten two fifteen. Sorry, he

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<v Speaker 1>plays like DK metcalf and he runs four fours.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>In the second round, but I don't think he will either,

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<v Speaker 1>So I like the way he steps up into the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the stem or the simultaneous stab to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to the football. Then just snatches it like, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>let the hands, take the dB to the football, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>let the ball and do his chest plate to eat

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<v Speaker 1>him up like this is my dude, and he runs

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just Matt at the world. With how much

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<v Speaker 1>we preach position fluidity and line waddle or reakup in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield the receivers out, why whatever, It just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like Corley is a perfect option. Those are my top

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<v Speaker 1>four players right there. Let's go ahead and take our

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<v Speaker 1>last break on the podcast right there, come back on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side and do players five through ten. That's

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<v Speaker 1>next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Winkfield, brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by Ada Nation. Number five on Travis's February twenty

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<v Speaker 1>third Top ten Favorite Draft Prospects List Extravaganza Podcast Special

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<v Speaker 1>Extraordinary Episode seven forty one is is tackle guard combination.

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Fatanu from Washington think larry MYE. Tunzel in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of how this could help the team immediately and long term.

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<v Speaker 1>Know not that you're going to get quarterback compensation when

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<v Speaker 1>you trade him, but rather that I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>could be your starting left guard as a rookie, and

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<v Speaker 1>then if Tehran were to retire after this season, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got your left tackle in twenty twenty five ready for duty,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the same way that I think powers Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Powers Johnson could potentially be a two position guy

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<v Speaker 1>right away like that. There's a benefit of doing that

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<v Speaker 1>early in the draft with these offensive linemens. So for him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've talked about him at length. Exceptional, exceptional

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<v Speaker 1>movement skills and striking and grip strength and ability to

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<v Speaker 1>attach to the second level and to mirror pass rushers

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<v Speaker 1>and shut down the top rushers in the country one

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<v Speaker 1>v one the slide protection away this guy. I like

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot more than the rest of the nation

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<v Speaker 1>or the rest of the draft. Cognacenti does. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a chance he's there at twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be at all upset he's the pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I expect him to be near the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line group in Indianapolis when he works out with

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<v Speaker 1>all of his metrics there. So keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Potanmu from Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Number six. We're going to the other side of the

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<v Speaker 2>ball now. Defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Second defender on my list here is linebacker Jeremiah Trotter,

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<v Speaker 1>Junior from Clemson. He's the ideal stack, see it, scrape

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<v Speaker 1>it hit a linebacker Like if you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that can be a stout run defender in

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<v Speaker 1>light boxes but also help you simulate pressure that type

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<v Speaker 1>of defense, this is your guy. And then what is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest things to find, slash something. The

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<v Speaker 1>teams that were in the final four sort of have

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<v Speaker 1>as good as anybody else in the National Football League

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<v Speaker 1>this year. It's that linebacker that can fit the run

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<v Speaker 1>but also get vertical and defend those deep hook and

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>curl throws. Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw, Nick Bolton, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Tranquil and Willie Gay, Rokwan Smith and Patrick Queen, Jack

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Campbell who the lines were Lambassett for drafting last year,

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<v Speaker 1>which was dumb because he's a good player and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good pick.

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<v Speaker 2>And alex Anzeloni Trotter is that type of player. He plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He can help you play in light boxes, run that

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<v Speaker 1>vertical three cut off digs in behind him, while also

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<v Speaker 1>playing downhill on checkdowns and a scrambling quarterback. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight pressures one hundred and two reps last year

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven stops on two hundred and sixty nine rundown reps,

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<v Speaker 1>a passer rating against in his career of seventy point

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<v Speaker 1>two one touchdown, four picks and eleven plays in the football.

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<v Speaker 1>His junior year was even better, twenty three pressures, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred reps, forty six stops on two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven rundowns, and a forty four point five passer rating allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a good looking prospect. We're gonna go stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the south down here and go number seven onterior

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman Cedric Van Pran from Georgia. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cross over here in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>he does well and what the offensive line that have

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<v Speaker 1>played well in our system do. He's a plus athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>He's six foot four, three hundred and ten pounds. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why JPJ is so unicorn. Man three thirty is crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the listed way. I'm curious see what he weighs

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<v Speaker 1>in Indianapolis. He has great pop and get off, and

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<v Speaker 1>that shows conviction of what he's doing, like he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing and where he's going and how to

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<v Speaker 1>get there, and he matches that with strong, aggressive hands.

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<v Speaker 1>He operates very well out in space. Started forty plus

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<v Speaker 1>games there for Georgia and played a lot of playoff football.

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<v Speaker 1>Right thirty of those starts where at center of the

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>rest were at guard, so more position versatility on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. He was a three sports star and his

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<v Speaker 1>track team in high school kind of does it all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very technically sound. He's well coached in understanding leverage

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and blocking angles where he can pin and anchor and

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<v Speaker 1>open up a gap and man scheme, but also hit

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<v Speaker 1>moving targets out wide. I think the scheme versatility is

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately what you look for there. The ability to do

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<v Speaker 1>the bread and butter stuff on first and ten, but also, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go win and push this pile in

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<v Speaker 1>a phone booth on third and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Go do it. He can do that too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the fan base and it's not just you, guys.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it with every damn team has JPJ and

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<v Speaker 1>their mocks in one shape form or another. Just remember,

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<v Speaker 1>with a prospect like that and everybody loves him, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not guaranteed to get ums. I want you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>know that there are some really good interior offensive line

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>prospects in this class. I think Graham Barton and Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Frazier are also in that cat discussion right now. As

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<v Speaker 1>round two guys, if not round one, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is probably your next best bet, though, Cedric Van Prant,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows he could blow the doors off Indian, get

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<v Speaker 1>into the first round himself. Number eight back to defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaw Smith Wade a cornerback from you gotta wain in

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the day for Crimson and Gray. Shaw Smith Wade as

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<v Speaker 1>feisty as I'll get out, which is a non negotiable

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<v Speaker 1>for the slot. Right He's here to mess up your day.

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<v Speaker 1>And mess up your day is not the word I

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<v Speaker 1>would use. It's a different word if it was not

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<v Speaker 1>a family friendly podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing about c CSM that's the first one

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<v Speaker 1>I've called him that is I think that his best

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>position is inside in the pros, But if you're in

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a pinch as the Dolphins have been the last two

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>years at various spots of the season with your cornerback

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>depth and injuries, he can play on the perimeter. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a k Co situation where I thought he

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>played a lot better inside than on the outside. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would go with boundary over the field the short side,

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>but he's positioned diverse. I wonder if somebodyn think of

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<v Speaker 1>him as the safety the next level. But his propensity,

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a re route play from trail, compete all the

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<v Speaker 1>way at the stem to Capplitz to fit the run.

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<v Speaker 1>With all of that and his choppy feet that helps

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>him jump, leverage, absorb, lean and stay unencumbered by contact

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to run the stem without getting tangled. Is why I

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<v Speaker 1>like this player so much. I'm staying in the PAC

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<v Speaker 1>twelve for number nine and going with safety Cole Bishop.

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked to pull up ESPN's big board and

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>find their number one ranked safety is a former Washington

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>State Cougar cocko Stayden Hicks.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Check him out.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a great player and he would be on here

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<v Speaker 1>if I just didn't want to go to Homer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's the best in the class.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the sake of not going full Homer, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this list already has pre eminently last year's best conference

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>foot right the former PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the best conference last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you can kind of tell the types of

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<v Speaker 1>players I like just going through this podcast, so fine

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<v Speaker 1>story here for you guys, And this is gonna sound bragecdotis,

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<v Speaker 1>but I promise you it's not the point so like

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<v Speaker 1>your boy was really good at FIFA and Madden as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>In my adult years too so good. I never lost games.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an online account for like Madden O eight

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and I was like ninety two

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen. I guess I did lose sometimes. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I don't I never lost my friends, my brother

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<v Speaker 1>in person.

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<v Speaker 2>I always wipe the floor of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I i is is that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>things a little bit quicker than your normal player on

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<v Speaker 1>the sticks and FIFA it's a big deal, like through

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<v Speaker 1>balls and you know, you know, trying to score goals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about anticipation.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to one of our videographer's houses before the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl and he was playing Madden with another videographer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was having anxiety watching these guys because they

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<v Speaker 1>never saw the man open the way I was like, throw.

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<v Speaker 2>It to axe. He's why open?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? It's the first readio progression, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm doing it like never. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop would destroy me in FIFA and Madden. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>this all leads to. He's so quick to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's holland Like now that said, he's a little more

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<v Speaker 1>athletically like Brandon Jones, and he's awesome down in the box,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can really match up on tight ends a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better than I thought twenty nine did with that

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<v Speaker 1>knack and feel and the right combination of physicality. He

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<v Speaker 1>loves to stick his face and the fan of the

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<v Speaker 1>running game Cole Bishop fun fun player and number.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten outside of the top two rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is an f tight end that I'm curious about

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<v Speaker 1>from Minnesota, Brevian span Ford. He's kind of my guy

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of, you know, this is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>NFL scouting meetings. The area scouts that are gonna make

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>their cases for guys are typically valuable intel for priority

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agents, and Brevin span Ford probably goes on

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<v Speaker 1>day three.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the guy that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing in the table like Moneyball, Like we get

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<v Speaker 1>these guys here, which you about how to play Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball and that's how we do it, Billy like,

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<v Speaker 1>Brevian span Ford looks the part of a Dolphins tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>He's athletic as hell, he's got some blocking chops too,

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<v Speaker 1>and damn it if he doesn't remind me of Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Laporter the way he runs the football. He's six foot

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<v Speaker 1>seven to two seven at least on their website, PFF

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<v Speaker 1>has him with five point seven yards average after the catch.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one hundred and thirty one yak this year,

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<v Speaker 1>two forty six last year, one sixty four in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. Over those three years, ninety five grabs for

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand, sixty one yards and seven touchdowns. He had

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<v Speaker 1>three years prior to that where he didn't play at

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<v Speaker 1>all the pandemic. He was one of those weird, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic extension players.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's been playing powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Football for six years, which kind of I think accelerates

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<v Speaker 1>the development timeline there a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my top ten players right now that I like

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<v Speaker 1>for the Miami Dolphins at various spots in the first

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<v Speaker 1>second and late in the draft rounds. There, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and get out of here again. Monday's podcast, so

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jeremiah clips from his news conference.

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<v Speaker 2>We will preview the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk about the freaks on that workout surface

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<v Speaker 1>and what they're about to do. A lot coming your

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<v Speaker 1>way from India. I also have interviews with Daniel Jeremiah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got Jordan reed and I got Matt Miller on

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<v Speaker 1>there you guys, Matt Miller fans on the podcast run Down.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we'll hear from head coach Mike McDaniel and Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Greer as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be a fun next week. Check us out in

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast.

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