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Speaker 1: Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am
Speaker 1: your host, Travis Wingfilm and on today's show, we are
Speaker 1: off to the combine next week. Before that, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get our first look at the underclassmen in
Speaker 1: the post season setting. We're gonna go down a list
Speaker 1: of draft prospects, identify ten guys that stand out to
Speaker 1: me as potential fits for your Miami Dolphins, and most
Speaker 1: of them, nine of them are first or second round
Speaker 1: picks in that option area. From the Baptist Hill Studios
Speaker 1: inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft
Speaker 1: Time Podcast. Let's go ahead and kick this show off
Speaker 1: here with some thoughts and you know how every draft
Speaker 1: seems to take on a certain shape. I recall back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, the draft being one where and
Speaker 1: this was due in large part to the absence of
Speaker 1: a top ten cornerback prospect, just one first rounder who
Speaker 1: probably goes in a training camp at best in a
Speaker 1: competition this year Kenny Pickett, but a draft where they
Speaker 1: said the talent was best from like one to fifteen
Speaker 1: and then again from like thirty five to seventy five
Speaker 1: or something like that. And in hindsight it does seem
Speaker 1: a little bit arbitrary to me. And look, I'm about
Speaker 1: to speak against my own living here. But the more
Speaker 1: draft study I do, just like the rest of football,
Speaker 1: the more I realized how much the hand ringing is
Speaker 1: pretty frivolous. I always pointing back to the Seahawks there,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman draft class and how
Speaker 1: it was given an F on I think it was
Speaker 1: ESPN gave him an F following the draft or the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Saints class. I'll never forget a popular podcast
Speaker 1: I'll call him out the Around the NFL podcast criticizing
Speaker 1: the Saints as one of the biggest losers of the
Speaker 1: draft because they didn't address what their perceived needs for
Speaker 1: the Saints were, and that was the year they got
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore, Ryan.
Speaker 2: Ram ram Trek, Alvin CARMERA.
Speaker 1: No, let's try that again, Marcus Latimore, Ryan Ramchek, Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, Trey Hendrickson, Alex Anzeloni, and al Kaden Muhammad
Speaker 1: literally all plus starters, and half of those guys are
Speaker 1: like all pro caliber players. It's literally the greatest draft
Speaker 1: class of all time. And that's most of the league. Right.
Speaker 1: We draw these grand conclusions for what will happen in
Speaker 1: September or January for that matter, from moves that happened
Speaker 1: in March with free agency, April, with the draft. Throughout
Speaker 1: training camp, we all build up this grand prediction, this
Speaker 1: grand this is who you are. And then we play
Speaker 1: like one or two football games and that changes, and
Speaker 1: then who that football team becomes in those couple of
Speaker 1: games change again come the holiday season.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Hell, collectively, we move mountains regarding opinions on players from
Speaker 1: one month to the next, from one week to the next,
Speaker 1: on some occasions, from one series to the next. In
Speaker 1: some situations, I recall reading tweets about the Dolphins answering
Speaker 1: every question about them in that Dallas game, And I
Speaker 1: take no pride in saying this, but how'd that turn
Speaker 1: out for you? The point is things change fast. Perceptions
Speaker 1: are altered quickly, Reality shifts.
Speaker 2: In a moment in this league.
Speaker 1: Now, that's the longest preamble into draft class strengths and
Speaker 1: weaknescis you'll ever hear. I will say, even though the
Speaker 1: exercise of what if truly is pointless at its core,
Speaker 1: I think the educational nature of it and the process
Speaker 1: that gives you a baseline or even just a jumping
Speaker 1: off point, I think there's a ton of value in
Speaker 1: that because you can reate, reference back to it and
Speaker 1: make your future evaluations, your future podcast, your game evaluations
Speaker 1: and skill sets and training camp reviews. You can reference
Speaker 1: back to how you felt prior to that player arriving
Speaker 1: in that positions. So you are gonna waste a lot
Speaker 1: of time on draft prep if you work for in
Speaker 1: my instance, for one single team that you're trying to
Speaker 1: nail these prospects down. But ultimately that work does pay
Speaker 1: off on the other side. But trying to predict it
Speaker 1: and then being steadfast and indignant in those predictions, that's
Speaker 1: where I think the disconnect comes from. Sometimes when you
Speaker 1: make your draft takes, you get clipped off for the
Speaker 1: intro of a Buffalo Bills podcast the Rock Pile Report,
Speaker 1: after you say, Josh Allen has skyscraper altering ability after
Speaker 1: they drafted him in twenty eighteen, and they're gonna build
Speaker 1: a new stadium.
Speaker 2: That was a spot on take.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you think Deon Jordan was the best pick in
Speaker 1: the entire draft. Yes, those are actually both takes of mine.
Speaker 1: A lot of you remember the twenty eighteen draft coverage.
Speaker 1: None of you know about my amateur scouting in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: when I thought I knew a lot didn't know much.
Speaker 1: And that mention of twenty thirteen is my five minute preamble.
Speaker 1: And to bring us back full circle to that opening
Speaker 1: line about the twenty twenty two draft class, I remember
Speaker 1: having this discussion at length the idea of using the
Speaker 1: first round draft pick that year on Tyreek Hill and
Speaker 1: then some but that was the gem of the package, right,
Speaker 1: or using a twenty twenty three first round pick on
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb. And the twenty twenty three class was heralded
Speaker 1: as much more top heavy, a more talent laid in
Speaker 1: the first round than twenty twenty two was.
Speaker 2: But I also recall.
Speaker 1: Doing an exercise when we would have picked, there had
Speaker 1: already been six pass rushers off the board, So it
Speaker 1: becomes Bradley Chubb versus well, Miles Murphy went once bought
Speaker 1: ahead of the Dolphins. The next edge selected was Felix
Speaker 1: and aduque Uzama from the Chiefs, who barely played twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of the snaps this year. He was the
Speaker 1: sixth edge taken in that class. In Tyreek's year, the
Speaker 1: wide receiver after our spot was Christian Watson at pick
Speaker 1: thirty four. He was the seventh receiver taken. And so
Speaker 1: I felt the Dolphins really maximize those draft picks to
Speaker 1: produce talent on the field with immediate production, which should
Speaker 1: not be slided for a guy that takes a year
Speaker 1: to develop. If you get an extra year of production,
Speaker 1: that should count towards the cumulative weight of that move
Speaker 1: that you made.
Speaker 2: I mean, the NFL's best receiver.
Speaker 1: Right, Tyreek Hill, we think we all agree, or at
Speaker 1: least top three at minimum, and a guy who was
Speaker 1: top ten and literally every single pass rush category you
Speaker 1: can conjure up.
Speaker 2: So this year, this season, what is the pre.
Speaker 1: Draft balance in terms of talent, fit, positional strength, all
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And I'm going to play some clips I think, I
Speaker 1: think on the Monday podcast from Daniel Jeremiah's Thursday press
Speaker 1: conference with a contingency of football schlubs like myself, football
Speaker 1: media slubs, I should say, and I want to play
Speaker 1: some of that, but I want to ask him about
Speaker 1: this because you know, he's going to talk about the
Speaker 1: strength in this class and everybody's going to talk about
Speaker 1: it all draft process long is across the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and that's where this entire opening segment kind of came from,
Speaker 1: is that everybody's going to tell you how good this
Speaker 1: O line is. And I want to revisit Daniel Jeremiah's
Speaker 1: Top fifty that he produced back in January and has
Speaker 1: since done mock draft. One point zero and two point
Speaker 1: zero inside the top fifty. This is what he has
Speaker 1: as far as offensive line prospects. Seven oh line in
Speaker 1: the top eighteen of the class, and they're all tackles.
Speaker 1: There's eight tackles inside his top fifty in general, but
Speaker 1: that's actually top thirty seven. There's three interior offensive linemen
Speaker 1: in the top fifty and they all check in between
Speaker 1: thirty three and thirty seven, with Graham Barton from Duke,
Speaker 1: who some think is the best un in the draft,
Speaker 1: Jackson Powers Johnson, who I think is possibly the best
Speaker 1: player in the draft. That's my opinion from Oregon and
Speaker 1: Zach Frazer from West Virginia, who's also a freaking stud.
Speaker 1: All three of those guys are awesome, awesome football players.
Speaker 1: That gives you eleven o line in the top fifty.
Speaker 1: And actually it's eleven in the top forty, or really
Speaker 1: thirty seven to be exact. So about every third or
Speaker 1: fourth player through the first thirty seven players, according to
Speaker 1: the NFL network's most prided or most flauded draft expert
Speaker 1: are offensive lineman. And what makes it even more interesting,
Speaker 1: I know you're thinking at home, right, what a perfect
Speaker 1: year to get some young, cheap, good.
Speaker 2: Offensive line talent. Right.
Speaker 1: It's and I'm saying this because it's tough, man. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at the free agent offensive line market, and
Speaker 1: we talked about this all the time. Traditionally it produces
Speaker 1: awful return value for the investor you're paying. You're getting
Speaker 1: like thirty cents on the dollar for those players. It
Speaker 1: happens every single year. I've referenced. Kyle Krabs is a
Speaker 1: great research project on Lockdown Dolphins where he looks at
Speaker 1: guys that signed the big ticket, big tackle money, almost
Speaker 1: a big ticket money at in free agency and they
Speaker 1: produce at a level that is a fraction of what
Speaker 1: they were with their first team at a salary that's
Speaker 1: a much more than a fraction higher than what they're
Speaker 1: making previously. So you're really you're dipping into a horrible market.
Speaker 1: You're buying NFTs almost at that rate. Most of the time,
Speaker 1: the top line guys don't shake free, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's like this, right And when you get them into
Speaker 1: a new system with new teammates and a new coach,
Speaker 1: I'd say that the offensive line is where coaching and
Speaker 1: continuity are by far the most important, and it can
Speaker 1: be tough to replicate that success in a new environment.
Speaker 1: And that's played out with the free agent draft classes.
Speaker 1: I mean Mike McGlinchey last year. I remember all.
Speaker 2: You guys I talked about him too.
Speaker 1: That was the solution at right tackle, right before I
Speaker 1: find out Austin Jackson can actually play football, was to
Speaker 1: go get Mike McGlinchey at like fifteen million bucks a year.
Speaker 1: That was the probably one of the worst signings in
Speaker 1: the NFL last year, the Broncos of Mike McGlinchey.
Speaker 2: Just you know, that's how it goes.
Speaker 1: And look at Austin Jackson was a top ten right
Speaker 1: tackle last year. It's crazy how the sport goes man
Speaker 1: so like, and this is getting off the script at
Speaker 1: this point, but like, remember in the twenty twenty one draft,
Speaker 1: I don't remember many folks that were happy about Jayden
Speaker 1: Phillips being the pick over Naji Harris. It was absolutely
Speaker 1: the smart pick at the time going forward, and it
Speaker 1: still is. I remember that how many Dolphins fans thought
Speaker 1: that it was a horrible move to not take Nase
Speaker 1: Harris right there, who has been relegated to running back
Speaker 1: two in Pittsburgh, Like, I don't know, man in a
Speaker 1: position that's the cheapest in the league as well, and
Speaker 1: now you have one of the best young pass rushers
Speaker 1: on a rookie contract.
Speaker 2: You guys would have gotten fired for that. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: So back to the tackle stuff, Tron has actually been
Speaker 1: a bit of an anomaly in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: he's been franchise level when he's played. Now, injuries and
Speaker 1: availability has made that conversation different. But when he plays,
Speaker 1: he's probably a top four or five left tackle in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. So that means that every team
Speaker 1: is looking for offensive line help, right, you guys, know
Speaker 1: the top seeded Ravens, the team that leads the NFL
Speaker 1: and rushing every year, and that's part of their quarterback
Speaker 1: as well, but is often heralded for their offensive line play.
Speaker 1: Allow me to read you a passage from a tweet
Speaker 1: from one of their beat writers. This was Jeff Zubriac.
Speaker 1: Help I got that right?
Speaker 2: With it.
Speaker 1: Now looking unlikely that Kevin Zeitler will be back, it's
Speaker 1: become clear that slidifying the offensive line will be the
Speaker 1: will be the Ravens offseason priority. Left guard John Simpson
Speaker 1: is a pending free agent. Good player, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's me. He's talking Both tackles Stanley and Moses have age,
Speaker 1: injury and contact contract questions. It's basically linderbaum and question marks.
Speaker 1: So do you think they're alone in that regard?
Speaker 2: This is me talking good?
Speaker 1: How many teams on Let's just pick Daniel Jeremiah's mock
Speaker 1: does a list team needs?
Speaker 2: Who does?
Speaker 1: Let's see NFL dot Com. Chad Ruter has us here.
Speaker 1: Good job, so he's got every team's top five needs.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is gospel, because like, who
Speaker 1: is Kuad? Even gotta see it?
Speaker 2: Who is Chad Ruter.
Speaker 1: You know, but I actually like Chad's works. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that, but like he doesn't. I mean, his needs
Speaker 1: are not Gospel's what I'm saying. But I bet you
Speaker 1: can pinpoint about how many teams have offensive line listed
Speaker 1: in there, right.
Speaker 2: My guess is going to be twenty five spots. Let's
Speaker 2: go down the list.
Speaker 1: So the Bears, picking first, their top need is interior
Speaker 1: offensive line. The Commanders have an interior offensive line need
Speaker 1: at second pick. The Patriots third need, according to Chad Ruter,
Speaker 1: is offensive tackle. The Cardinals third need is interior offensive line.
Speaker 1: The Chargers fifth need is their center. That's close in
Speaker 1: franch We're gonna count it. The Giant's third need is iol.
Speaker 1: The Titans top need is tackle. We finally reach our
Speaker 1: top team that does not have offensive line on their
Speaker 1: top five needs, the Falcons. Then the Bears are up again.
Speaker 2: Then the Jets.
Speaker 1: Their top need is an offensive tackle. The Vikings a
Speaker 1: guard is their third. Their third biggest need another team
Speaker 1: without an offensive line need, according to Chad Ruter.
Speaker 2: The Broncos.
Speaker 1: They did sign two top market offensive lineman last year,
Speaker 1: and Ben Powers and Mike McGlinchey.
Speaker 2: By the way, the.
Speaker 1: Raiders have iol and ot as their second and third needs.
Speaker 1: The Saints have tackle as their third need. The Colts
Speaker 1: don't have an offensive line need. Three teams in so
Speaker 1: far don't have needs on the offensive line. The Seahawks
Speaker 1: interior o line is third, Jags guard second, Bengals tackle second,
Speaker 1: Rams no offensive line need really for sure with that.
Speaker 1: The Steelers tackle second, interior line third, Dolphins interior offensive
Speaker 1: line first. Eagles don't need the offensive line help Accord
Speaker 1: and Chad Ruter. Texans tackle top need. Cowboys tackle top
Speaker 1: need into your line third top need, Packers tackle second,
Speaker 1: best biggest need into your offensive line. Fourth biggest need,
Speaker 1: Bucks interior line, third biggest need Cardinals again. Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: no offensive line need, and they got one thousand plus
Speaker 1: snaps from all five guys that will never happen again
Speaker 1: for them. The Lions guard second, Ravens we cover them
Speaker 1: offensive guard second on the list, Niners tackle third, and
Speaker 1: interior offensive line fourth, Chiefs third. Third need is a
Speaker 1: tackle team without a first round pick, Panthers interior offensive line,
Speaker 1: Browns offensive tackle. So how many teams didn't have offensive
Speaker 1: line as a top five need in that list? Twenty
Speaker 1: six teams had it in their top five. Twenty one
Speaker 1: teams had offensive line in their top three needs. Six
Speaker 1: teams had offensive line as the top need. Five teams
Speaker 1: have multiple o line spots as needs. So even when
Speaker 1: you have a loaded offensive line class, the math tells me,
Speaker 1: tells you, tells us a collective the Royal wi that
Speaker 1: there will be teams left without a chair when this
Speaker 1: music stops. Because, yeah, addressing and hitting five team needs
Speaker 1: might be unrealistic, but I think it is realistic to
Speaker 1: think you can fix three things on your football team
Speaker 1: in an offseason.
Speaker 2: And more than.
Speaker 1: Two thirds of the teams have offensive line listed among
Speaker 1: their top three needs.
Speaker 2: So pick twenty one. What's there? Who knows?
Speaker 1: But I know this offensive line class is one of
Speaker 1: the best we've ever seen just right now, right, but
Speaker 1: in three years it could not be.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: The receiver class also very very good, very very deep.
Speaker 1: That's been pretty common the last few years. I know
Speaker 1: the running back position and tight end spots are much
Speaker 1: more mid rounds this year opposed to what last year's
Speaker 1: crop offered. I know the quarterback crop is more widespread.
Speaker 1: I think we get an early run than a handful
Speaker 1: more that go throughout rounds one and two, where last
Speaker 1: year was just kind of the top guys than a
Speaker 1: big dearth there. There's better into your defensive line prospects
Speaker 1: than in years past, I would say, and the edge
Speaker 1: group continues to turn out a bunch of just adonses. Basically,
Speaker 1: I don't think the corner class is anywhere close to
Speaker 1: what it has been, but I really like the crop
Speaker 1: of safeties and nickels.
Speaker 2: There's some crossover there.
Speaker 1: That's the first segment, fifteen minutes, talking about what this
Speaker 1: draft features, some of my own thoughts on it, the
Speaker 1: offensive line group, how every team's offensive line help. Next,
Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about the ten prospects that
Speaker 1: are my favorite as of today. On February twenty third,
Speaker 1: that's next for the Dolphins. By the way, Draft Time Podcast,
Speaker 1: your host Travis Wingfield.
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Speaker 1: Really enjoying putting together those kind of just Travis's thoughts segments.
Speaker 1: We haven't done that on the Draft Time Podcast for
Speaker 1: the last really since it began those more locked on
Speaker 1: Dolphins segments, but trying to get back to those roots
Speaker 1: because it's what I enjoyed to do.
Speaker 2: I think it's good content, and.
Speaker 1: I think you guys like it as well, So let
Speaker 1: me know if you agree or disagree or don't, whatever.
Speaker 2: You want to do. I'm not the boss of you.
Speaker 2: I'm not your father. I'm not God. That's a big
Speaker 2: old boss reference right there.
Speaker 1: So you guys know how my notes got a little
Speaker 1: bit less on the free agent list as that went on.
Speaker 1: This might be a little bit in the converse or
Speaker 1: maybe just randomly selected throughout because I talked about a
Speaker 1: few of these guys a lot recently.
Speaker 2: Just real quick.
Speaker 1: I have not done the quarterbacks yet. That's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be a March project. I haven't don the running backs
Speaker 1: yet because I just don't think we're in that market
Speaker 1: really and it's not a great class for it either.
Speaker 1: I will also remove the following players because I think
Speaker 1: they are locks, and there are never locks in the
Speaker 1: draft right but for the sake of not giving you
Speaker 1: ten guys that are probably gonna be before we pick anyways,
Speaker 1: here are the locks that I have that'll go off
Speaker 1: the board before the twenty first pick. Marvin Harrison, Junior
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors, Rome Adunza, and Brock Bowers. For your skill players,
Speaker 1: Alu Fashanu from Penn State.
Speaker 2: I think I butchered.
Speaker 1: That I haven't heard his name pronounced before, Joe Alt,
Speaker 1: Amerius Mims, Talise Fuaga, Jared versus Dallas Turner, and that
Speaker 1: I think you could pencil in four quarterbacks that'll go
Speaker 1: top twenty, which gives us fourteen total players.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good number for the twenty first pick.
Speaker 1: Right, you eliminate so many guys, and you say, here
Speaker 1: are eight guys that could be available seven picks before
Speaker 1: you pick, which means you're gonna get one of those guys. Right. So,
Speaker 1: but also this exercise is not limited to the first round.
Speaker 1: It is, however, limited the top two rounds except for
Speaker 1: my number ten guy. So that sounds confusing. But you'll
Speaker 1: be with me. You'll be good, You'll be all right.
Speaker 1: We'll hold your hand to this. And it starts with
Speaker 1: the man in the middle in organ is Sasquatch a
Speaker 1: potential nickname for this guy, just a three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty pound creature perus in the beautiful forestry of the
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, just knocking down any object that gets in
Speaker 1: his way for the fun of it. It's Jackson Powers
Speaker 1: Johnson the Center from Oregon. If you just remove the
Speaker 1: position the value of said position as far as perception goes.
Speaker 1: All of that, I think there's an argument that Powers
Speaker 1: Johnson is the number one overall player in the draft.
Speaker 1: I mean, tell me, these following traits aren't everything you
Speaker 1: want in a high draft pick, a spot where you're
Speaker 1: looking to first nail down a surefire, long term starter. Right.
Speaker 1: You have to do that because if you don't, it
Speaker 1: sends a ripple effect throughout your franchise that impacts you negatively.
Speaker 1: The teams that hit on the first round picks typically
Speaker 1: have the best rosters. You need a guy to contribute
Speaker 1: for a long time also, right, and probably early. That's
Speaker 1: another thing that would be a first round pick is
Speaker 1: you want to contribute right away, but you also want
Speaker 1: that upside, which is probably the most important thing.
Speaker 2: This is where you take the best balls of clay. Right.
Speaker 1: However, the first part happens, but then they morph into
Speaker 1: a true realization of their potential.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think.
Speaker 1: JPJ is man find me some bad college tape, because
Speaker 1: there isn't much of his There.
Speaker 2: Just aren't really holes in his game.
Speaker 1: I feel very comfortable saying I know the floor I'm
Speaker 1: getting with this player that's number one. Number two, the
Speaker 1: love of the game, the mindset, the approach, all of
Speaker 1: that is there, and sometimes there's guesswork there. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't take more than a few snaps to watch this
Speaker 1: guy just after the snap the things he does, to
Speaker 1: see the passion that JPJ plays with. I said it before,
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. He reminds me of Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 1: Number three. The upside is absolutely abundant. I mean, if
Speaker 1: he was just three hundred and fifteen pounds doing the
Speaker 1: stuff that he does, that would be impressive. But damn it, man,
Speaker 1: you're giving me an extra thirty pounds, three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty right on top of all that. Usually the concession
Speaker 1: at this position is we might just not be able
Speaker 1: to rely on dominance in pass pro one on one.
Speaker 1: You know Jordan Davis who goes three hundred and forty
Speaker 1: pounds and moves like he does, or to and Andre Sweat,
Speaker 1: the Texas d tackle at three hundred and sixty two,
Speaker 1: who can also move and put you on your butt
Speaker 1: if you're a three hundred and twenty pounds center or
Speaker 1: three hundred and ten pounds center like most of these
Speaker 1: guys are Jpg's three thirty be one of the biggest
Speaker 1: hitars in the National Football League, and he can also
Speaker 1: play guard too, So like, there's every argument for this
Speaker 1: guy to be a high draft pick. I think if
Speaker 1: he was a different position, he'd be a top ten,
Speaker 1: maybe top three pick. Because he's a center, we might
Speaker 1: get a chance on him at twenty one. Every year,
Speaker 1: every year I can look at a few players and say,
Speaker 1: I just can't fathom that this guy doesn't work out
Speaker 1: as a great player. That's JPG this year. Number two
Speaker 1: is like that for me as well. And outside linebacker
Speaker 1: from UCLA Laatu Latu. I'm not at all privy to
Speaker 1: what the timeline our expectations are with either JP or
Speaker 1: Beachubb or Gink for that matter, ahead of his pending
Speaker 1: free agency and their recoveries. But if you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna be without those guys for X amount of games
Speaker 1: and you need pass rush production right now, this is
Speaker 1: probably the best option for it. And you guys know,
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of drafting that way, but this
Speaker 1: provides you the benefit of scratching the itch right there,
Speaker 1: so to speak, but also planning for the future. I
Speaker 1: know the initial reaction is going to be the need
Speaker 1: not being a top priority, and I get it, but man,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Take good football players. You'll thank yourself
Speaker 1: three years down the road. This dude is a great
Speaker 1: football player. He's built like JP. Doesn't have quite the
Speaker 1: explosiveness that JP had coming out, but he's far more
Speaker 1: polished than JP was. I don't think that he'll be
Speaker 1: here when we draft, but Daniel Jeremiah has n't done
Speaker 1: on mock draft now, kind of like JP. There is
Speaker 1: some injury history that could knock his value down. Is
Speaker 1: why I think he has a chance to be there
Speaker 1: at pick twenty one. But JP had no business being
Speaker 1: eighteenth in the draft, right lucky. Yes. The way that
Speaker 1: he can and this is a law to again, The
Speaker 1: way that he can seamlessly pivot into a secondary rush
Speaker 1: after his first move fails or it looks like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get pushed. He's been doing this at this
Speaker 1: level for like a decade plus, Like it looks like that,
Speaker 1: Like I get excited just thinking about it. He's a
Speaker 1: combination of power, quickness, and it means I think I
Speaker 1: could kick him inside like JP does or dropping coverage
Speaker 1: and be effective. He just has a feel and knack
Speaker 1: for the game man Like listen, I think we have
Speaker 1: the best edge rush tanem and football and two and fifteen.
Speaker 2: But that's how.
Speaker 1: Much I love lat too. Would not hesitate to make
Speaker 1: this pick if he's on the board right there.
Speaker 2: I doubt he does.
Speaker 1: But also, shouldn't your top players be guys you think
Speaker 1: could go earlier. That kind of tracks to me. I
Speaker 1: will just never scoff at the idea of drafting a
Speaker 1: premium position in the first round, even if it isn't
Speaker 1: a pressing need, especially in the back end of the
Speaker 1: first round where the money is not what it is
Speaker 1: in the top ten and it becomes a very cheap
Speaker 1: player for four or five years. Because I think it
Speaker 1: would be wise to assume that JP is going to
Speaker 1: be here a long time and Bradley Chubb isn't going
Speaker 1: anywhere anytime soon. But he is twenty eight this summer
Speaker 1: and coming off a second tour in ACL. I think
Speaker 1: he probably has, you know, five really good years at
Speaker 1: least in his tank. But when you pay you know,
Speaker 1: JP in a year or two and he's on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty Chubb is that's when you then
Speaker 1: shift your money around to keep yourself flexible. Right, JP
Speaker 1: becomes what Chubb is now. A lot too becomes what
Speaker 1: JP is now, and you do that again four years
Speaker 1: after that, Rinse and repeat, Baby, the cycle never stops.
Speaker 2: Leat two. Latsu a phenomenal football player. Number three.
Speaker 1: He's a guy you've heard me talk about a lot
Speaker 1: Roman Wilson, the receiver from Michigan. He's a lot like
Speaker 1: Wattle and Tyreek in the way he sets up his sprouts. Man,
Speaker 1: He's lean, has some nuance, those little head nods, and
Speaker 1: perfect footwork explosion. I think the best feet in the
Speaker 1: entire class. The speed that he has plays on crossers,
Speaker 1: on double moves. You can design plays specifically for him
Speaker 1: in the screen game and run game for us. We
Speaker 1: already have two of those, probably now three with Hm.
Speaker 1: But you can never get enough of those guys. There's
Speaker 1: just a professional tact there as well. He makes a
Speaker 1: lot of his money on motion where he can manipulate
Speaker 1: the defender before the snap, and he's great after it
Speaker 1: as well. With that pacing of his movement, he can
Speaker 1: just like kind of throttle you down, but accelerate when
Speaker 1: he needs to. He knows how to use what gears,
Speaker 1: but he also has sub four to four speed to boot.
Speaker 1: I mean that's how I would describe reek and waddle
Speaker 1: and what's better than you know, two of them, but
Speaker 1: three of them. I talked about him a ton on
Speaker 1: the podcast Big Fan. But one more thing I've heard
Speaker 1: since I last mentioned him here on Drag Time is
Speaker 1: that he grew up in Maui, Hawaii, Maui to be exact,
Speaker 1: but he went to Saint Louis High School. That's two
Speaker 1: was high school on Oahu, and for the first month
Speaker 1: of his freshman year, he woke up at four am
Speaker 1: to fly to the island of Wa Hoover School in
Speaker 1: football practice. His dad worked at Alaska Airlines, so we
Speaker 1: got free flights. Do you remember when you were fourteen
Speaker 1: years old? I mean on a weekend, you couldn't get
Speaker 1: me out of bed before eleven am. If you told
Speaker 1: me that Dan Rena and King Griffrey Junior were out
Speaker 1: in the front yard tiding autographs for just Travis like
Speaker 1: I was sleeping, not Roman Wilson.
Speaker 2: He was grinding.
Speaker 1: I put number three. I don't have a number four
Speaker 1: because I have two guys at number three. They tie
Speaker 1: right here. It's another wide receiver. I have him deadlocked.
Speaker 1: Malachai Corley from Western Kentucky in a deadlock. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: India gives me some type of separation around these two guys.
Speaker 1: And man, they are such different players too. I'm a
Speaker 1: speed queen.
Speaker 2: I said it. That's why I listened to Roman first.
Speaker 1: But this is the kind of player I'm most intrigued
Speaker 1: by because there's springs in his shoes, with exceptional acceleration,
Speaker 1: dynamic deep threat ability, but the physicality to beat in
Speaker 1: thwart press coverage.
Speaker 2: He engages.
Speaker 1: He swempes your hands off the press, he gets into
Speaker 1: the route. He takes everything like physically personally like don't
Speaker 1: touch me, don't touch me. He dominates the hand fight
Speaker 1: up the stem, takes press coverage and tacklers like in
Speaker 1: a personal offense, a personal attack on him, and he
Speaker 1: steam rolls guys in either capacity. He's five foot ten
Speaker 1: two ten, No five foot ten two fifteen. Sorry, he
Speaker 1: plays like DK metcalf and he runs four fours.
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be there.
Speaker 1: In the second round, but I don't think he will either,
Speaker 1: So I like the way he steps up into the
Speaker 1: end of the stem or the simultaneous stab to come
Speaker 1: back to the football. Then just snatches it like, doesn't
Speaker 1: let the hands, take the dB to the football, doesn't
Speaker 1: let the ball and do his chest plate to eat
Speaker 1: him up like this is my dude, and he runs
Speaker 1: like he's just Matt at the world. With how much
Speaker 1: we preach position fluidity and line waddle or reakup in
Speaker 1: the backfield the receivers out, why whatever, It just seems
Speaker 1: like Corley is a perfect option. Those are my top
Speaker 1: four players right there. Let's go ahead and take our
Speaker 1: last break on the podcast right there, come back on
Speaker 1: the other side and do players five through ten. That's
Speaker 1: next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Winkfield, brought to
Speaker 1: you by Ada Nation. Number five on Travis's February twenty
Speaker 1: third Top ten Favorite Draft Prospects List Extravaganza Podcast Special
Speaker 1: Extraordinary Episode seven forty one is is tackle guard combination.
Speaker 1: Troy Fatanu from Washington think larry MYE. Tunzel in terms
Speaker 1: of how this could help the team immediately and long term.
Speaker 1: Know not that you're going to get quarterback compensation when
Speaker 1: you trade him, but rather that I think that he
Speaker 1: could be your starting left guard as a rookie, and
Speaker 1: then if Tehran were to retire after this season, You've
Speaker 1: got your left tackle in twenty twenty five ready for duty,
Speaker 1: kind of the same way that I think powers Johnson
Speaker 1: Jackson Powers Johnson could potentially be a two position guy
Speaker 1: right away like that. There's a benefit of doing that
Speaker 1: early in the draft with these offensive linemens. So for him,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about him at length. Exceptional, exceptional
Speaker 1: movement skills and striking and grip strength and ability to
Speaker 1: attach to the second level and to mirror pass rushers
Speaker 1: and shut down the top rushers in the country one
Speaker 1: v one the slide protection away this guy. I like
Speaker 1: him a lot more than the rest of the nation
Speaker 1: or the rest of the draft. Cognacenti does. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a chance he's there at twenty one, and
Speaker 1: I would not be at all upset he's the pick.
Speaker 1: I expect him to be near the top of the
Speaker 1: offensive line group in Indianapolis when he works out with
Speaker 1: all of his metrics there. So keep an eye on
Speaker 1: Troy Potanmu from Washington.
Speaker 2: Number six. We're going to the other side of the
Speaker 2: ball now. Defense.
Speaker 1: Second defender on my list here is linebacker Jeremiah Trotter,
Speaker 1: Junior from Clemson. He's the ideal stack, see it, scrape
Speaker 1: it hit a linebacker Like if you want to have
Speaker 1: a guy that can be a stout run defender in
Speaker 1: light boxes but also help you simulate pressure that type
Speaker 1: of defense, this is your guy. And then what is
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things to find, slash something. The
Speaker 1: teams that were in the final four sort of have
Speaker 1: as good as anybody else in the National Football League
Speaker 1: this year. It's that linebacker that can fit the run
Speaker 1: but also get vertical and defend those deep hook and
Speaker 1: curl throws. Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw, Nick Bolton, Drew
Speaker 1: Tranquil and Willie Gay, Rokwan Smith and Patrick Queen, Jack
Speaker 1: Campbell who the lines were Lambassett for drafting last year,
Speaker 1: which was dumb because he's a good player and it
Speaker 1: was a good pick.
Speaker 2: And alex Anzeloni Trotter is that type of player. He plays.
Speaker 1: He can help you play in light boxes, run that
Speaker 1: vertical three cut off digs in behind him, while also
Speaker 1: playing downhill on checkdowns and a scrambling quarterback. I mean
Speaker 1: twenty eight pressures one hundred and two reps last year
Speaker 1: thirty seven stops on two hundred and sixty nine rundown reps,
Speaker 1: a passer rating against in his career of seventy point
Speaker 1: two one touchdown, four picks and eleven plays in the football.
Speaker 1: His junior year was even better, twenty three pressures, one
Speaker 1: hundred reps, forty six stops on two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: seven rundowns, and a forty four point five passer rating allowed.
Speaker 1: He is a good looking prospect. We're gonna go stay
Speaker 1: in the south down here and go number seven onterior
Speaker 1: offensive lineman Cedric Van Pran from Georgia. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of cross over here in terms of what
Speaker 1: he does well and what the offensive line that have
Speaker 1: played well in our system do. He's a plus athlete.
Speaker 1: He's six foot four, three hundred and ten pounds. This
Speaker 1: is why JPJ is so unicorn. Man three thirty is crazy,
Speaker 1: that's the listed way. I'm curious see what he weighs
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. He has great pop and get off, and
Speaker 1: that shows conviction of what he's doing, like he knows
Speaker 1: what he's doing and where he's going and how to
Speaker 1: get there, and he matches that with strong, aggressive hands.
Speaker 1: He operates very well out in space. Started forty plus
Speaker 1: games there for Georgia and played a lot of playoff football.
Speaker 1: Right thirty of those starts where at center of the
Speaker 1: rest were at guard, so more position versatility on the
Speaker 1: offensive line. He was a three sports star and his
Speaker 1: track team in high school kind of does it all.
Speaker 1: He's very technically sound. He's well coached in understanding leverage
Speaker 1: and blocking angles where he can pin and anchor and
Speaker 1: open up a gap and man scheme, but also hit
Speaker 1: moving targets out wide. I think the scheme versatility is
Speaker 1: ultimately what you look for there. The ability to do
Speaker 1: the bread and butter stuff on first and ten, but also, hey,
Speaker 1: we have to go win and push this pile in
Speaker 1: a phone booth on third and two.
Speaker 2: Go do it. He can do that too.
Speaker 1: You know the fan base and it's not just you, guys.
Speaker 1: I've seen it with every damn team has JPJ and
Speaker 1: their mocks in one shape form or another. Just remember,
Speaker 1: with a prospect like that and everybody loves him, you're
Speaker 1: not guaranteed to get ums. I want you guys to
Speaker 1: know that there are some really good interior offensive line
Speaker 1: prospects in this class. I think Graham Barton and Zach
Speaker 1: Frazier are also in that cat discussion right now. As
Speaker 1: round two guys, if not round one, I think this
Speaker 1: is probably your next best bet, though, Cedric Van Prant,
Speaker 1: who knows he could blow the doors off Indian, get
Speaker 1: into the first round himself. Number eight back to defense.
Speaker 1: Shaw Smith Wade a cornerback from you gotta wain in
Speaker 1: the day for Crimson and Gray. Shaw Smith Wade as
Speaker 1: feisty as I'll get out, which is a non negotiable
Speaker 1: for the slot. Right He's here to mess up your day.
Speaker 1: And mess up your day is not the word I
Speaker 1: would use. It's a different word if it was not
Speaker 1: a family friendly podcast.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: The nice thing about c CSM that's the first one
Speaker 1: I've called him that is I think that his best
Speaker 1: position is inside in the pros, But if you're in
Speaker 1: a pinch as the Dolphins have been the last two
Speaker 1: years at various spots of the season with your cornerback
Speaker 1: depth and injuries, he can play on the perimeter. It's
Speaker 1: not like a k Co situation where I thought he
Speaker 1: played a lot better inside than on the outside. I
Speaker 1: probably would go with boundary over the field the short side,
Speaker 1: but he's positioned diverse. I wonder if somebodyn think of
Speaker 1: him as the safety the next level. But his propensity,
Speaker 1: it's a re route play from trail, compete all the
Speaker 1: way at the stem to Capplitz to fit the run.
Speaker 1: With all of that and his choppy feet that helps
Speaker 1: him jump, leverage, absorb, lean and stay unencumbered by contact
Speaker 1: to run the stem without getting tangled. Is why I
Speaker 1: like this player so much. I'm staying in the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve for number nine and going with safety Cole Bishop.
Speaker 1: I was shocked to pull up ESPN's big board and
Speaker 1: find their number one ranked safety is a former Washington
Speaker 1: State Cougar cocko Stayden Hicks.
Speaker 2: Check him out.
Speaker 1: He's a great player and he would be on here
Speaker 1: if I just didn't want to go to Homer.
Speaker 2: I think he's the best in the class.
Speaker 1: But for the sake of not going full Homer, I mean,
Speaker 1: this list already has pre eminently last year's best conference
Speaker 1: foot right the former PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: It was the best conference last year.
Speaker 1: I thought you can kind of tell the types of
Speaker 1: players I like just going through this podcast, so fine
Speaker 1: story here for you guys, And this is gonna sound bragecdotis,
Speaker 1: but I promise you it's not the point so like
Speaker 1: your boy was really good at FIFA and Madden as
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 2: In my adult years too so good. I never lost games.
Speaker 1: I had an online account for like Madden O eight
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I was like ninety two
Speaker 1: and thirteen. I guess I did lose sometimes. And the
Speaker 1: reason I don't I never lost my friends, my brother
Speaker 1: in person.
Speaker 2: I always wipe the floor of those guys.
Speaker 1: And the reason I i is is that I saw
Speaker 1: things a little bit quicker than your normal player on
Speaker 1: the sticks and FIFA it's a big deal, like through
Speaker 1: balls and you know, you know, trying to score goals.
Speaker 2: It's all about anticipation.
Speaker 1: I went to one of our videographer's houses before the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he was playing Madden with another videographer,
Speaker 1: and I was having anxiety watching these guys because they
Speaker 1: never saw the man open the way I was like, throw.
Speaker 2: It to axe. He's why open?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? It's the first readio progression, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm doing it like never. I bet
Speaker 1: Bishop would destroy me in FIFA and Madden. That's where
Speaker 1: this all leads to. He's so quick to see it.
Speaker 1: It's holland Like now that said, he's a little more
Speaker 1: athletically like Brandon Jones, and he's awesome down in the box,
Speaker 1: but he can really match up on tight ends a
Speaker 1: lot better than I thought twenty nine did with that
Speaker 1: knack and feel and the right combination of physicality. He
Speaker 1: loves to stick his face and the fan of the
Speaker 1: running game Cole Bishop fun fun player and number.
Speaker 2: Ten outside of the top two rounds.
Speaker 1: Here is an f tight end that I'm curious about
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, Brevian span Ford. He's kind of my guy
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, this is a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL scouting meetings. The area scouts that are gonna make
Speaker 1: their cases for guys are typically valuable intel for priority
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, and Brevin span Ford probably goes on
Speaker 1: day three.
Speaker 2: But this is the guy that.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing in the table like Moneyball, Like we get
Speaker 1: these guys here, which you about how to play Oakland
Speaker 1: a baseball and that's how we do it, Billy like,
Speaker 1: Brevian span Ford looks the part of a Dolphins tight end.
Speaker 1: He's athletic as hell, he's got some blocking chops too,
Speaker 1: and damn it if he doesn't remind me of Sam
Speaker 1: Laporter the way he runs the football. He's six foot
Speaker 1: seven to two seven at least on their website, PFF
Speaker 1: has him with five point seven yards average after the catch.
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and thirty one yak this year,
Speaker 1: two forty six last year, one sixty four in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. Over those three years, ninety five grabs for
Speaker 1: one thousand, sixty one yards and seven touchdowns. He had
Speaker 1: three years prior to that where he didn't play at
Speaker 1: all the pandemic. He was one of those weird, you know,
Speaker 1: pandemic extension players.
Speaker 2: But he's been playing powerful.
Speaker 1: Football for six years, which kind of I think accelerates
Speaker 1: the development timeline there a little bit.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's my top ten players right now that I like
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins at various spots in the first
Speaker 1: second and late in the draft rounds. There, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get out of here again. Monday's podcast, so
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah clips from his news conference.
Speaker 2: We will preview the combine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about the freaks on that workout surface
Speaker 1: and what they're about to do. A lot coming your
Speaker 1: way from India. I also have interviews with Daniel Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: I've got Jordan reed and I got Matt Miller on
Speaker 1: there you guys, Matt Miller fans on the podcast run Down.
Speaker 1: Here we'll hear from head coach Mike McDaniel and Chris
Speaker 1: Greer as well.
Speaker 2: Gonna be a fun next week. Check us out in
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