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Speaker 1: let me just becomes Fantasy best Friends Forever? Our number two,
Speaker 1: Fantasy best Friends Forever, Fantasy Sports Radio Network. That's Frank Stamfel.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Sauceman joining us as he does each and
Speaker 1: every day. And our number two, it's the closer. Chris
Speaker 1: benders up. Chris, what up here? To close it out? Now?
Speaker 1: Number two? You know what I'm saying. Here you go,
Speaker 1: and we ended our number one trying to break down
Speaker 1: Stay Harper and Judge. How do you have those three
Speaker 1: outfielders ranked? So right now I have I have Harper
Speaker 1: ahead of both of them. So he agrees with you.
Speaker 1: I have a Judge Harper, I haven't Judge. I have
Speaker 1: it Judge Harper standing, Judge Harper. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: You know, I think my my logic is a more
Speaker 1: normal one. I guess, Yeah, well, how does it a
Speaker 1: more Yankee fan one is it? And if it's the
Speaker 1: average deposition one to be Yankee, I just have standing
Speaker 1: lass than that. Yeah. I mean, listen, Judge, I think
Speaker 1: Judge and Harper should be had a standing though we agree,
Speaker 1: I would say that we totally agree. Judge Harper, you
Speaker 1: know you could interchange those I think they're both you know,
Speaker 1: upsides crazy for both of them. So then let's get
Speaker 1: to the next tier, if you will. I have one
Speaker 1: other player in this tire, actually, Charlie Blackman. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so Truli black is not in the the next year, it's
Speaker 1: in this year. Okay. I like him in this to
Speaker 1: you too, but I think in terms of a DP,
Speaker 1: he is actually in the new That's kind of how
Speaker 1: I was saying it. But you have Charlie Blackman's ADP
Speaker 1: right now is twenty five in the NFBC over the
Speaker 1: last week and a half. Frank believes he should be
Speaker 1: you both believe I should say that he should believe
Speaker 1: be in that Stanton, Judge Harper, it's here, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: like right at the end of that yeah, and I
Speaker 1: agree with both of you completely because he's another one
Speaker 1: of these guys. And I said it in the intro
Speaker 1: that you're you're getting in the second round or in
Speaker 1: a twelve team league of a two three turn that
Speaker 1: has the ability to finish in the first round pick.
Speaker 1: But Chris, if you look at Charlie Blackman, many people
Speaker 1: think of Charlie Blackman, he's not the same guy that
Speaker 1: he used to be. And I think that's why he's
Speaker 1: continued to drop over the past, really steal the years, steals.
Speaker 1: If that's not him anymore, why do you believe he's not?
Speaker 1: It's he had one. It's not that and that's what
Speaker 1: you got. Seriously, if you plan your draft beforehand, if
Speaker 1: you're playing in a rod, if actually keep harping on this,
Speaker 1: you have to if you don't plan on taking an
Speaker 1: Adelbert to him honest see or a Malex Smith or
Speaker 1: a d Gordon or a Billy Hamilton at your draft,
Speaker 1: you just have to chip away. You have to keep
Speaker 1: chipping away. It has to be you have to have
Speaker 1: like everyone on your team has to be ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen or at least eight to teneen. That's kind of
Speaker 1: like what I'm I'm building right now, like Jose Ramirez
Speaker 1: on my team is gonna give me totally five, Rice
Speaker 1: Harper is gonna give me ten to twelve hopefully, Mitch
Speaker 1: Haniger eight to ten, Labor Tores eight to ten. The
Speaker 1: only persons I drafted so far who I'm basically expecting
Speaker 1: a zero is Haze Sagar. And I wanted his his
Speaker 1: power potential with with the counting stats in in Miller
Speaker 1: Park in Milwaukee, and I thought he was like the
Speaker 1: last of that first solid tier of first baseman, so
Speaker 1: I wanted to get him on my team. But seriously,
Speaker 1: like if you don't plan on taking a Mondescy, Billy Hamilton's,
Speaker 1: Malex Smith or d Gordon, you just gotta chip away.
Speaker 1: It seems like you know, at least you know every
Speaker 1: other hitter picture has to be, you know, in the fifteen,
Speaker 1: or you gotta get to manage sit somewhere that's you,
Speaker 1: or you gotta get in the Metrose area. You have
Speaker 1: to be conscious of these things. So I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: harving on that. And that's basically where I think, Uh,
Speaker 1: I think black One's gonna be again, it's twelve to fifteen,
Speaker 1: what about point? That's Rhodo right. So in points leagues,
Speaker 1: volume is king. You want guys who are gonna hit
Speaker 1: at the top of the lineup. We're gonna play every
Speaker 1: single day that you don't have splits concerns about consistency.
Speaker 1: And that's Charlie Blackman too. You know he's gonna play
Speaker 1: every single day. He's leading off for arguably the best
Speaker 1: line up in baseball, with the best home ballpark in baseball.
Speaker 1: And because their lineup is so good and they turn
Speaker 1: out somebody runs, he gets more at bats. So the
Speaker 1: volume is there, like he's great regardless of format. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think what people worry about and why
Speaker 1: you see him going is to me, there were a
Speaker 1: few warning signs last year in terms of a few
Speaker 1: more swinging strikes, hitting the ball on the ground a
Speaker 1: little bit more. He's thirty two years old. Everyone wants
Speaker 1: to be, you know, one year early instead of one
Speaker 1: year late. So I don't think this is a declined guy,
Speaker 1: though I agree with I think, look, he's gonna he'll
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna drop a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be to the point where he
Speaker 1: doesn't return second round value. My my projection for him
Speaker 1: is to ninety home runs, a hundred runs scored, board
Speaker 1: seventy five RBI. You want the RB I higher, but
Speaker 1: he's a leadoff hitter, twelve stolen bases, that's a second.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have more than that. And exactly like, this
Speaker 1: is a conservative projection, even if you even if everything
Speaker 1: comes down a little bit, you have to think about this.
Speaker 1: The last three seasons he's had at least a hundred
Speaker 1: eleven runs scored and twenty nine home runs in each season.
Speaker 1: So I think that he's at least still a lot
Speaker 1: for you know, maybe it's not runs but home runs.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you a hundred runs scored, and again
Speaker 1: he's gonna be twelve to fifteen stolen bases, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna give you a good batty. And he even has
Speaker 1: the upside of even hitting thirty five homes. I mean,
Speaker 1: he can do that. He's hit thirty seven if he
Speaker 1: has some kind of random like renaissance season, or if
Speaker 1: he just has even if he has a month where
Speaker 1: he was just tearing the baseball, that could be the
Speaker 1: difference between twenty eight homers and homes. I think people
Speaker 1: will be surprised when Uniue'charlie Blackman's line from last year
Speaker 1: and they see, holy crap, hundred nineteen runs runs scored
Speaker 1: in three straight seasons. It's very impressive. I think the
Speaker 1: problem is, I know you just harped on it. These
Speaker 1: getting Hose Prazza later or somebody that has some speed later.
Speaker 1: But this dude is not a thirty home thirty steel guy.
Speaker 1: He's not a twenty steel guy. He's a twelve to
Speaker 1: fifteen stone more days guy at this point. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. He realistic expectations. A lot of the You'll
Speaker 1: see a lot of players do this where they they
Speaker 1: steal forty thirty bases when they're younger now, and he
Speaker 1: didn't have the power when he was younger, he was ms.
Speaker 1: Now he's gained a lot more power and lost the speed.
Speaker 1: This happens to a lot of guys that get older.
Speaker 1: So you're not really substituting the power for the speed
Speaker 1: because he's stole forty at one point. Now he's stealing
Speaker 1: like twelve and fifteen, but you are getting something turned
Speaker 1: by him adding power to the reason. The reason that
Speaker 1: I questioned if he should be in that tier or
Speaker 1: not is a player that you hate, frank And that's
Speaker 1: Andrew ben Intendie. Because Andrew Benintendie, over his two seasons
Speaker 1: in the major leagues, has that twenty stolen bases in
Speaker 1: each one, so that at this point is more than
Speaker 1: Charlie Blackman. Black Men last year had the twenty nine
Speaker 1: home runs. Obviously, ben intendie struggle of that department went
Speaker 1: down from sixteen. Many people believe that ben Intendi can
Speaker 1: go back up in the home run department and could
Speaker 1: has the ability to potentially get you twenty five home
Speaker 1: runs and twenty steals. You get that, You're like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, why wouldn't I take this guy over a
Speaker 1: potentially to Charlie Blackman, because he also has the ability
Speaker 1: to have a hundred runs scored like Blackman does, have
Speaker 1: an average around where black Man is strikes out a
Speaker 1: little bit less than black does more rb I is
Speaker 1: potentially Boston's a good spot to hidden, not like Horace,
Speaker 1: but Boston's a good spot that hidden. Frankie, you don't
Speaker 1: like Andrew Benintendie, yet you still are very much. You
Speaker 1: know Charlie Blackman. How come it's a good question. Look
Speaker 1: with black Men, it's he's He's done it three years
Speaker 1: in a row in terms of the runs, right, like
Speaker 1: a hundred and eleven runs. Yeah, I realized that. And
Speaker 1: you know, look, you do want to try and get
Speaker 1: the stole the stolen basis. But black men, I mean,
Speaker 1: Ben Tendi has been twenty and twenty one in the
Speaker 1: past two years. It's not like he's thirty, like he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get you know, he seven, he might get.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna have seven eight more than black men. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think black men is still safe for in terms
Speaker 1: of batting average two because Ben Tendi. Yea, he was
Speaker 1: too ninety last year. The year before that he was
Speaker 1: to seventy one. And he still struggles against left handed pitching.
Speaker 1: Ben Tendi in his career sucks against left handed pitching.
Speaker 1: We had this right now. Ben in Tendy is has
Speaker 1: a two thirty four career batting average but a six
Speaker 1: four one ops against lefties in his career. So he's
Speaker 1: he's gonna struggle against lefties. Yes, he's gonna lead off
Speaker 1: for this lineup. I think the runs could be similar. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he had eighty seven runs scored last year,
Speaker 1: but that was with him batting second in the lineup.
Speaker 1: For the Red Sox. Now he's gonna move to eat off.
Speaker 1: So I think the RBI has come down a little bit,
Speaker 1: probably similar to whatever. You know. Charlie Blackman is gonna
Speaker 1: be seventy five, maybe eighty and black men safer for
Speaker 1: Homer runs too, and then he's been twenty and sixteen
Speaker 1: the only way. And you know, I actually put a
Speaker 1: poll out before the show. You know which second round outfields,
Speaker 1: second third round Outfiel do you want intend? He's leading
Speaker 1: the pole by a little bit. He's ahead of Blackman,
Speaker 1: he's ahead of Marte, he's a head of Wan Soto.
Speaker 1: So people are buying that the power is gonna come.
Speaker 1: If you buy that, he's going to project and move
Speaker 1: forward and become a twenty five you know, maybe upper
Speaker 1: twenties home run guy. And yeah, you're in the camp
Speaker 1: that wants to take him in the second round. Maybe
Speaker 1: you want to take him. My head of Charlie black
Speaker 1: and me, I don't. I know that he's still young,
Speaker 1: but based on his hard hit rate it was down
Speaker 1: last year, was below I can't really project him to
Speaker 1: take the next step yet. Now you would think I would.
Speaker 1: He's young. Come on, he's young, Come on, got upside
Speaker 1: the red, but I'm gonna go Blackman, Okay, just a
Speaker 1: lot safer, I think right now. I do think that
Speaker 1: I understand why people would draft Ben Tenni before him, though,
Speaker 1: because like I could see why, like you're saying the leftist,
Speaker 1: but he could easily improve on that, Like he's twenty
Speaker 1: four years old. I mean you can't. You can't negate that.
Speaker 1: Like he's growing as a player. You went from two
Speaker 1: seventy one to nine batting average. You know, the guy
Speaker 1: could hit. I don't know. The stone base is a
Speaker 1: hard thing to predict. He could go. He could go
Speaker 1: from basis tow to twelve himself. I mean it all
Speaker 1: depends on what, like how the system where he's batting
Speaker 1: in a lineup, how well he's doing, if he's getting
Speaker 1: caught stealing, like all that stuff matters. So I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a prolific base steal by. I mean he's
Speaker 1: he'll never reach thirty. I think he's gonna be around
Speaker 1: the fifteen to twenty guys whole career. But it's a
Speaker 1: question is the power. Will the power come? And I
Speaker 1: think it will. He have forty one doubles last year,
Speaker 1: right Eventually those are gonna turn into power as he
Speaker 1: gets older. But I think right now black Men is
Speaker 1: the safer pick. I would rather go black Man. I
Speaker 1: think he's safe to the point where this could be
Speaker 1: uh which, well, Ben in Tenni's ceiling is what Blackman?
Speaker 1: Did you know? Not last year, maybe two years ago,
Speaker 1: but Frankie put but frank pointed out when it comes
Speaker 1: when you're trying to break down Judge versus Harper, and
Speaker 1: you're we're trying to break down Judge versus Stanton, standing
Speaker 1: versus Harper, whatever, that those extra stolen bases matter. They
Speaker 1: ultimately matter when you're putting your team together, and you're right,
Speaker 1: maybe it's twenty stolen based guy for next couple of
Speaker 1: years and then go down to fifteen, down to twelve
Speaker 1: kind of like black Man has. You're right, and maybe
Speaker 1: what black Man right now, no doubt he is. And
Speaker 1: if you think that Benn in Tendie could increase those
Speaker 1: home runs up to around twenty five, then you should
Speaker 1: take Ben and Tendie. Yeah, you don't have torn that's
Speaker 1: fine the case for Andrews, right, and then fine, And
Speaker 1: if people trust that, like you know me personally, I
Speaker 1: think he might be closer to like eight hitter Blackman,
Speaker 1: he's consistently around three hundred. Oh the batting average matters too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I wouldn't be surprised. He's a career,
Speaker 1: his career, right one bit if he hit three ten
Speaker 1: or three fifteen this year, it kind of would it
Speaker 1: would I don't I don't know. I don't think it
Speaker 1: would surprise. Eighty seven then three twenty four, two n
Speaker 1: three or two to me, I look at this, dude
Speaker 1: is a two nights. I think I'll hit two ninety again,
Speaker 1: I really do. But he's a safer one thousand. What
Speaker 1: is what is black Men's floor? Like, even even if
Speaker 1: he starts to like to eight, probably his floor. What's
Speaker 1: Benintenni's floor to fifty to sixty maybe six sixty five,
Speaker 1: that's the difference he had to seventy one, which that
Speaker 1: was his lowest, you know, maybe two seventy. But again
Speaker 1: and you and you accuse yourself of this, right, Like
Speaker 1: he's a young guy. He was twenty three two, twenty three,
Speaker 1: twenty four, so it's like he's still with the rowing.
Speaker 1: He is even in the league for three seasons already
Speaker 1: though like this already four games the first season. It
Speaker 1: was the first full season, and there's two full seasons
Speaker 1: in the league. If you're buying the third year breakout, fine,
Speaker 1: that's you. But I haven't seen in terms of where
Speaker 1: I want to see him improve getting better against lefties
Speaker 1: now of interesting, he could get better against lefties, and
Speaker 1: he definitely could, but over his two full seasons, hasn't
Speaker 1: he He hasn't showed it. He had, you know, his
Speaker 1: ability to to make optimal contact, hit the ball hard,
Speaker 1: and that hasn't improved on that. And that's what I
Speaker 1: want to mention. Hit against lefties. He hasn't been like,
Speaker 1: he hasn't improved. This is what I want to mention again,
Speaker 1: it's the hard hit Ray Fans, You've been attended and
Speaker 1: I've been fighting attend. That was the Huges. He has
Speaker 1: to hit the ball hard her. Yeah, that about it,
Speaker 1: you know, and an error where everyone is ripping the
Speaker 1: ball ratio under ten percent. How do you see a
Speaker 1: guy go from you know percent to thirty eight percent
Speaker 1: the next year? Like you see that high, but you
Speaker 1: you can expect some sort of progression with this kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty three years old to hit to nine
Speaker 1: in the MLB, that's nothing. To sneeze that, Frank, what
Speaker 1: outfielders do you have ahead of Andrew Ben and Tende
Speaker 1: between Charlie blackman Um he starts laughing. Let's get into
Speaker 1: Sterling Martete. Starling Marte was paired with Christian Yellis. We
Speaker 1: just said in your Great Fantasy Base Invitational. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: so Starling Marte is he's not pretty chicken anymore. He's
Speaker 1: now thirty years old. Starring Marty always gets drafted around here,
Speaker 1: seemingly every year because of his ability to steal uh
Speaker 1: forty one steals in thirty thirty seven and sixteen in
Speaker 1: just seventy seven games at one hundred forty five games,
Speaker 1: thirty three stealers. Last year he's consistently stolen around thirty bases. Yes, again,
Speaker 1: he's a year older. It was always the home runs,
Speaker 1: the power that you were scared off on thirteen home
Speaker 1: runs nineteen fifteen. You thought the power was coming and
Speaker 1: its disappeared nine sixteen in seventy seven games. Last it's seven,
Speaker 1: and then he was back up to twenty last year.
Speaker 1: I look at Starring Marte and I see a guy
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna about to seventy five to eighty realistically
Speaker 1: that probably will steal around thirty bases because that's just
Speaker 1: what he does. Right, He's a two six career hitters,
Speaker 1: so seventy seven last time look at the past seen
Speaker 1: he was hurt. He played hurt. Yeah, and he also
Speaker 1: I think he got suspended. He got suspended. That's what happened.
Speaker 1: Suspended year. I mean Seen was as three eleven. So
Speaker 1: that's like the higher end. What stories contribute to? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just I just want to say what a stories
Speaker 1: contribute to. I want to say, that's just power. But
Speaker 1: even the eye, right, I don't know what he was taking,
Speaker 1: but he might have taken the Adderall power came back
Speaker 1: after the steroids. It did, scored seventy r b. He's
Speaker 1: not a comp eleet like nothing in power. You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't project him for twenty home runs. I think
Speaker 1: he's more like a probably like sixteen eighteen. Probably he's
Speaker 1: like Tray Turner light. You know, trade Turner is gonna
Speaker 1: give you closer twenty home runs. The difference between him
Speaker 1: and Trade Turner is the Turner is going to give you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna walk more, and he's I mean, Turner has
Speaker 1: the ability he's gonna give you forty stolen basis, that's
Speaker 1: just fair in my opinion, if he stays healthful, he
Speaker 1: stay has the ability to steal fifty. You know, he
Speaker 1: has the ability to steal sixty. That's trade. I also
Speaker 1: think trade Turner could hit homeless. But you know, with
Speaker 1: Starling Marte then the stolen stolen based conversion ratio was
Speaker 1: not great. Lest here. I mean he was thirty three,
Speaker 1: he was caught stealing, but he he ran forty seven times.
Speaker 1: Is gonna keep saying, m yeah, I mean yeah, like
Speaker 1: what else how they're going to generate offense in the
Speaker 1: picture line up? Like he's he's at the center of everything,
Speaker 1: the star, one of the stars of that team. So
Speaker 1: he at this point, at this point, this is and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you guys could could disagree. This is
Speaker 1: where I pull him off over Ben and Tendee because
Speaker 1: the stolen basis, to me, he's gonna givet is gonna
Speaker 1: give closer to thirty five, maybe forty with as many
Speaker 1: as you know, as many as he attempts the runs
Speaker 1: RBIs maybe not as much. You know, the batty evergeens
Speaker 1: at home months. I don't think it's that far off either.
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Speaker 1: it is. All right? So we're talking about starring Marte
Speaker 1: during during the break? Do you have Marte in front
Speaker 1: or behind ben Attendi? I know you have black in
Speaker 1: one out of those guys like Frank, does you both
Speaker 1: have them actually in the other tier and at the
Speaker 1: end of the tier you both have in the other
Speaker 1: tier where starring Martake just more take compared to ben
Speaker 1: In Tendi. I have Marte like right behind ben Intendiah.
Speaker 1: How come uh upside obviously of benn In Tendi. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna hit a higher average than Marte. He
Speaker 1: walks more, Uh, he does a lot more things that
Speaker 1: I like. The doubles, the bags are gonna be on
Speaker 1: Marte's favor I think that the power also, benn In
Speaker 1: Tendie is either gonna be on par with Marte or better.
Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna improve in all the categories
Speaker 1: that Marte. We know what he's gonna do, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what he is at
Speaker 1: this point at thirty years old, even though he's had
Speaker 1: kind of an erratic career in terms of everything pretty much,
Speaker 1: especially the power. But I just I like ben Intendie's
Speaker 1: upside a little bit more than Marte's. I like Marte
Speaker 1: has like a solid safe play to draft after him.
Speaker 1: But if you want upside and you want a guy
Speaker 1: that could be your number one outfielder or a top
Speaker 1: twenty player, I think ben Intendi is a guy that
Speaker 1: could do that for you. So I think the reason
Speaker 1: that frank I don't what your mouth, Frankie, but I
Speaker 1: think the one of the reasons that you don't have
Speaker 1: Benintenni is because you don't think Bendi Benintenni could do
Speaker 1: what Ventor is saying. You don't think he could have
Speaker 1: the ability to beat at number one outfields or hit
Speaker 1: the third home runs that Chris thinks he could grow into.
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Yep, that is fair. I will say this.
Speaker 1: I think ben Intendi is better for points leagues because
Speaker 1: he walks more. He walks about five percent more he
Speaker 1: makes They both make a lot of contact. They both
Speaker 1: don't strike out all that much. But the plate discipline
Speaker 1: overall is better for Benintendi. And you know, again, the
Speaker 1: volume he's gonna hit at the top of the Red
Speaker 1: Sox lineup, He's gonna see a few more plate appearances
Speaker 1: at batts per game than Stally Martei is just because
Speaker 1: I look, the Red Sox lineup is better than the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates, There's no doubt about it. So in points leagues,
Speaker 1: the volume, the plate disciplined a little bit better. I
Speaker 1: would take Benintendi over Starring Marte for Rhodo right, just
Speaker 1: kind of putting them up against each each other. I
Speaker 1: think the batting average is similar for both. I think
Speaker 1: the solimations are the biggest difference. I think staring Marte
Speaker 1: is like, you know, in that thirty five range, that
Speaker 1: mid thirties, maybe even has the upside to steal close
Speaker 1: to forty if he plays the full season. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, the home runs um probably similar, maybe slight
Speaker 1: edge to be Nintendie. The runs for ben Intendee r
Speaker 1: b I s probably for ben Intendie as well. So
Speaker 1: it's really the stolen bases. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: the home runs in the batting average will be close one.
Speaker 1: So does the other guy we have in this mix,
Speaker 1: Frank and One. Soto, unbelievably enough, was nineteen years old
Speaker 1: throughout lest season this year. He's going to be twenty
Speaker 1: obviously throughout the next season. Hundred sixteen games in the
Speaker 1: majors last year, he had twenty two home runs while
Speaker 1: patting two nine two strugg out of the time, but
Speaker 1: he walks sixteen percent of the time. His eyes just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Batting average balls and play was three thirty eight throughout
Speaker 1: the minors. His batting average balls in play was always
Speaker 1: above three eight he had. He started last year in
Speaker 1: single A, moved up the double A, played eight games up,
Speaker 1: moved up to A high eggballs, moved up to double
Speaker 1: A for eight games. The National said, f it guess
Speaker 1: the majors Now they stay there all year. Obviously is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a short term window. Didn't wind up happening.
Speaker 1: He stayed all year. And if Pruss Harvard does leave
Speaker 1: Washington and as many expect, this is going to become
Speaker 1: the trade turner. Juan Soto show Victor Roblis as well.
Speaker 1: This is what the core of this team is going
Speaker 1: to be. They're going to count a lot from Juan Soto,
Speaker 1: especially being twenty years old. Every sign in there says
Speaker 1: this guy should be a phenomen Look at his hardia
Speaker 1: percentage percent right around league average last year. It's not
Speaker 1: great data, but he's he's a guy that he goes.
Speaker 1: He goes to all fields. Greg he's a professional hitter.
Speaker 1: A number that you're not that you don't want to see.
Speaker 1: And again this is badded ball data. Groundball fifty seven
Speaker 1: percent at the time, that's the number you don't like.
Speaker 1: He has to improve on that. Numbers still home run
Speaker 1: to five ball ratio is almost twenty five. Not great,
Speaker 1: as Frank said, not great badded ball data. If you're
Speaker 1: looking for reasons of potential sophomore slumping away, well maybe
Speaker 1: that whole run the football ratio comes down or so,
Speaker 1: maybe the groundball rate doesn't improve, maybe the hard hit
Speaker 1: percentage doesn't improve. But the big thing walks seventy nine
Speaker 1: walks in a hundred and sixteen games in four s.
Speaker 1: That's something that will not change. He has unbelievab plate discipline.
Speaker 1: Is gonna have them really played this point. It's that simple,
Speaker 1: and that's something you really gotta like. And that will
Speaker 1: help him from avoiding a major sophomore slump because he'll
Speaker 1: still give you points in a point that he's still
Speaker 1: gonna give a point walking and getting on base and
Speaker 1: doing things like that scoring runs. I mean, he's just
Speaker 1: a dining play Listen, when was the last time you
Speaker 1: saw a nine year old player that didn't have a
Speaker 1: great career? Was the especially Felix one that did this?
Speaker 1: Man a nineteen year old who did this. He had
Speaker 1: a historic nineteen year old season. And I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the strikeout rate at twenty percent. Gregg and based on
Speaker 1: his plate discipline. He had a seven point six percent
Speaker 1: swinging strike create reminder, league average swinging strike rate is
Speaker 1: you know, ten percent right around there, and league average
Speaker 1: strikeout rate is around So one of these numbers is
Speaker 1: out of His swinging strike rate was seven six but
Speaker 1: his strikeout rate was at So that tells me that
Speaker 1: that's coming down. Like this year, he's going to walk
Speaker 1: more than he's going to strike out. He walked sixteen
Speaker 1: percent of the time as a nineteen year old. This
Speaker 1: chase rate was twenty two percent league averages like thirty
Speaker 1: thirty one. He like doesn't swing at pitches outside the
Speaker 1: strike zone. He has legitimate, awesome plate like hits recognition,
Speaker 1: plate recognition, knowing like what pitches are going to be
Speaker 1: on the plate as a nineteen year old. I mean,
Speaker 1: look to two runs and only a hundred and sixteen
Speaker 1: games a p s again as a nineteen year old.
Speaker 1: A lot of you know, a lot of the Baseball
Speaker 1: Podcast and Fantasy Baseball podcast I listened to talk about
Speaker 1: this guy like he is the next coming of Albert
Speaker 1: Pooh Holes in that ILK in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: being able to square up pitches. And I know you
Speaker 1: mentioned the home on the flyball ratio greg at every
Speaker 1: level in the minor leagues, his home run the flyball
Speaker 1: ratio was tent or higher. But what does that tell me?
Speaker 1: When he's hitting flyballs, he's squaring them up like he's
Speaker 1: he's getting the best of these fly balls. And when
Speaker 1: he's hitting them, I will admit, the groundball rate, it's
Speaker 1: kind of scary, I don't, you know, like I can't
Speaker 1: defend it because you know, I come up here and
Speaker 1: I tell tell people, I want to see, you know,
Speaker 1: more flyballs. I want to see line drives. I want
Speaker 1: to see a hard hit rate. The groundball right over,
Speaker 1: I don't like that, But how many of those ground
Speaker 1: balls are hard hit ground balls? And he goes to
Speaker 1: all fields right like you know you were watching, you're
Speaker 1: watching the games last year where where the Nationals came
Speaker 1: in Kankee Stadium. He hits a home run down the
Speaker 1: left field line. Then he hits a bomb to right
Speaker 1: center field. He goes to all fields like he can,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's a professional hitter and he's only
Speaker 1: gonna be twenty years old heading into the season. And
Speaker 1: he held his own against lefties, to which I love.
Speaker 1: He's a left handed bat. He had to seventy nine,
Speaker 1: with seven of his twenty two runs against left handed pitching.
Speaker 1: He held his own like he did every single thing
Speaker 1: and more than you could ask of a nineteen year
Speaker 1: old nine year olds incredible bro his problem. He's gonna
Speaker 1: walk a hundred and thirty times a year like in
Speaker 1: his prime, He's going to do that, and he's walking
Speaker 1: eighty times at nineteen years old. I mean, like he's
Speaker 1: in the majors. How's he doing? Upside is he can hit?
Speaker 1: He can hit like three twenty this year like he had.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what's upside. I have him a head of
Speaker 1: Ben intended. I haven't. I'm serious, anew that was changing
Speaker 1: because you look at one Soto and I was just
Speaker 1: especially for points essentially as you were sitting in your
Speaker 1: talk as you're sitting you're talking right like I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting staring at like stats in batty Ball of Day.
Speaker 1: That like the reason that I knew you would have
Speaker 1: him ahead of ben Intendi, he's because you want to
Speaker 1: talk a guy that that can break out, that can
Speaker 1: hit the thirty home runs, that can early value became
Speaker 1: the superstar. One solo is more of that guy than
Speaker 1: Ben intended. Yeah, He's just he just is. So that
Speaker 1: is why you would have ahead of Ben Tendie. And
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that he's not gonna steal basis.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing we'll talk a lot about, stolen basis.
Speaker 1: But he could be that next coming of a four
Speaker 1: category contributor when we talk about guys like you know,
Speaker 1: j D. Martinez and Nolan Narratano not to the same level.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be said the same level, but he
Speaker 1: could be a player who, look, he had to last
Speaker 1: year in his first season. You're telling me that that
Speaker 1: batting average, based on what he did in the minor leagues,
Speaker 1: can't jump over three hundred this year, and he had
Speaker 1: twenty two runs in a hundred and sixteen games. If
Speaker 1: he plays a hundred and fifty games, he's not going
Speaker 1: to approach thirty home runs. And then in the middle
Speaker 1: of that lineup with Trey Turner and Anthony Random and
Speaker 1: Victor Robots that he can't you know, drive in close
Speaker 1: to a hundred and score close to a hundred runs.
Speaker 1: He could be a legit four category contributor. He stole
Speaker 1: five bases in a hundred and sixteen games. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll chip in seven eight stolen bases. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a complete zero but four category contributor here.
Speaker 1: He does everything else. Who cares about the stolen basis?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, this guy had
Speaker 1: three sixty two in the miners, right, you asked me
Speaker 1: during the break, what do you worry about with a
Speaker 1: with a sophomore slump. He's a different breed man, He's
Speaker 1: a different breed. That's you know, That's all I could say.
Speaker 1: His plate discipline, the fact that he go to all fields,
Speaker 1: doesn't strike out much. He's gonna walk. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: when he hits fly balls, he squares them up. Those
Speaker 1: are gonna turn it to home runs. What's I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're either find me a knock on the guy outside
Speaker 1: of the ground ball rate or the stone basis, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, honestly, so for me looking at it listening,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him ahead of everybody but Blackman probably
Speaker 1: they have ahead of Marte. I'm gonna take him ahead
Speaker 1: of attend But I'll take ben Intendi and ahead of
Speaker 1: starring Marte. That's what I'll do. Listen, You're either gonna
Speaker 1: buy want Soto because his price is very hot. You're
Speaker 1: either buying him or you're not. And if you're buying him,
Speaker 1: you're paying for him. You're gonna pay for him because
Speaker 1: he's going high. He's going very high, and he should be.
Speaker 1: There's one outfielder he talks about the second show, but
Speaker 1: there's one outfielder that's in between. According the n FFEC,
Speaker 1: ben INTENDI wants to who's outfield eligible. That's with Meryfield.
Speaker 1: You would probably, I think, play him at second base
Speaker 1: more often than not. Um, he goes off the board,
Speaker 1: not not necessarily the five outfielders. You're right, five outfielders
Speaker 1: and he's off the board. I would take him after
Speaker 1: all of these guys that we mentioned personally, I know
Speaker 1: he's a forty steel guy. I would take him after
Speaker 1: every having behind k Ris Davis and Rees Hoskins as well.
Speaker 1: I don't this, I haven't gotten there yet, but just
Speaker 1: where I have, he's not having. He's not he's not
Speaker 1: in the with these guys to me. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: look in some NFBC drafts, he's gone in late second,
Speaker 1: early third round because people freak out about stolen basis.
Speaker 1: So he could give you forty post stolen basis. That's
Speaker 1: when people see and without completely killing you in home runs,
Speaker 1: like you know, he'll probably give you fifteen runs. That's
Speaker 1: what people see. And then you know then when you
Speaker 1: take him an are you guys talking about like on
Speaker 1: a Roto level right now or a points league level?
Speaker 1: But are you thinking mary Field is better in roo?
Speaker 1: He's very good, important, he makes a lot of contact.
Speaker 1: He doesn't walk all of that much. He you know,
Speaker 1: he's like a what's seven percent walk RZ something I had?
Speaker 1: He had sixty one walks. I mean that's not bad.
Speaker 1: That ain't bad. He had forty stole bases right average
Speaker 1: was very good at three or four I meant three doubles.
Speaker 1: He's fine. He's he's good. But you know, look the
Speaker 1: storm bases at least, you know, not in my points league.
Speaker 1: They don't mean much. You know, my home league is
Speaker 1: get two points, so they don't really mean much. He's
Speaker 1: more valuable in Rhoto. I think, yeah, I guess so, okay.
Speaker 1: Chris Bryant we talked about on yesterday show m he's
Speaker 1: in this mixed two. Well, we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: Chris Bryan all of us. And then you and I
Speaker 1: both like Chris Bryan little bit more than Frank does.
Speaker 1: And then we get to Reese Hoskins who we mentioned,
Speaker 1: Cody Belder we had. We really compared them a lot
Speaker 1: in our First Base show. In our First Base Show,
Speaker 1: you probably played them in the outfielder, especially in in
Speaker 1: five outfield leagues. Um, you want some power. A little
Speaker 1: bit later, you you took some Chris Davis. It's Chris Davis.
Speaker 1: In just a second, I think, miss Christie, where hell
Speaker 1: is Chris Davis? You should be around this tire. He
Speaker 1: is utility only on some sites. Only on some sites.
Speaker 1: That's why do you actually be on on a lot
Speaker 1: of sites? Mean, he'll be I'm going to check to
Speaker 1: confirm that right now by though, I'll check ESPN. But
Speaker 1: he is in the NFBC. He's only utility. He's only
Speaker 1: utility only. What is what do you do with that?
Speaker 1: He only played, Uh, he only played eleven games in
Speaker 1: the after last year. So if you play in the
Speaker 1: league where the previous year you only need ten games
Speaker 1: played to be outfield eligible, Chris Davis will have that eligibility.
Speaker 1: He does. He does have it in YAHOO. If you need,
Speaker 1: you need twenty games like he doesn't have it in
Speaker 1: CBS either. I like that we all kind of play
Speaker 1: on different sites, so we kind of truly yeahoo, I
Speaker 1: play mostly CBS, Eventum plays mostly ESPN. UM. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: only played eleven games in the after last year, so
Speaker 1: if you need twenty, he's not gonna have Alphiel. Chris
Speaker 1: Davis let the league and home runs last year, but
Speaker 1: forty seven for the fourth consecutive year. UM comers strikes out,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot, hundred and seventy five strikeouts last year.
Speaker 1: OVP was about three six. I think with Chris Davis,
Speaker 1: who probably belongs in the mix, I would say, guys
Speaker 1: with the Reese Hoskins and Cody Bellinger's that's like that
Speaker 1: that cruise a crew to me. Um, But he's a
Speaker 1: D eight if he is, if he's out, if he's
Speaker 1: outfield eligible, I'm saying he's actually a steel if he's
Speaker 1: a D H because people sometimes don't realize that he's
Speaker 1: around just because he's a utility guy. Potentially, so, but
Speaker 1: how do you have the ality only would you take
Speaker 1: would you take him over Reese Hoskins, He wasn't utility
Speaker 1: if he was if he you know, being if he's
Speaker 1: only utility, only are you taking him over Reese Hoskins?
Speaker 1: Probably he was gonna have first base and outfield eligibility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't. I don't think they can't either, all right,
Speaker 1: So what do you do with a guy like that.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't move him. He's just taking up
Speaker 1: your entire of utilities. But when it comes to Rotor,
Speaker 1: you're you're drafting stats, you're drafting numbers. You know, when
Speaker 1: when it comes to the end of the third or
Speaker 1: early fourth round, you're looking for a guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: be forty plus home runs, a hundred RBIs doesn't matter
Speaker 1: where it comes from. It doesn't matter where it's where
Speaker 1: it comes from. Get you. You need to get your stats.
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to. And that's why he
Speaker 1: goes in the fourth round still even as a util
Speaker 1: you till only player, because he's gonna give you forty
Speaker 1: plus home runs. He's gonna and there's there'ser's value in that.
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, the two forty seven batting average, that's
Speaker 1: that's actually close to league average. League average batting average
Speaker 1: is right around to fifty. It's very it's very said.
Speaker 1: You know, look, Chris Davis, especially the tear that he
Speaker 1: went on the second half. You know, maybe he has
Speaker 1: the upside to hit fifty home runs. He could, but
Speaker 1: you know your own you know they're safety in him
Speaker 1: because he's been doing it. You know you're getting you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get forty five on runs. How many
Speaker 1: players can you say that about right now? Only help
Speaker 1: them on your hand? Aaron Judge, Chris Davis would a kay,
Speaker 1: that's it. Bryce Hawk, No, you can't say that about
Speaker 1: Brice ha Hatie Martinez. Maybe Bellinger do it. You can,
Speaker 1: you can, but you could throw Joey Gallo in there.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Guys Joey gallows Fair could he
Speaker 1: hit forty two years arow? This guy's better because he
Speaker 1: hit more than forty three years last year. You need Look,
Speaker 1: everyone says, oh, it's easy to find home runs because
Speaker 1: you can find them throughout the draft. You need more
Speaker 1: home runs to compete now in the roto categories than
Speaker 1: ever before. So it's not just like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll find home runs later on the draft, Like you know,
Speaker 1: you need home runs to compete in that category. Forty
Speaker 1: undred and twenty three r BIS and you know we're
Speaker 1: sitting here every day we're talking to Matt Olson and
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman. We like the AI's lineup that has power. Here. Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. He's gonna drive and runs again. He had
Speaker 1: a ridiculous second half. But how about last year he
Speaker 1: upped his fly ball rate, hard hit rate forty guys ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Strike ats actually went down last year. Yeah, strikes went down.
Speaker 1: Is the batting average would never it will never be.
Speaker 1: He leads bad if his bat was actually low, but
Speaker 1: he hit more home runs. That's why when we came back,
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Speaker 1: It's crazy. He's gotta figure out where he wants if
Speaker 1: you week everywhere? Yeah, wrestling with some stuff right here.
Speaker 1: This is the stuff that keeps me up at night.
Speaker 1: Too great to it during the day we're working. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, so, first of all, picking it take eight sucks.
Speaker 1: I know you can kind of like it, but you
Speaker 1: have to wait so long on both ends, and you
Speaker 1: can miss runs either way. Because you're pick eight. You
Speaker 1: have fifteen picks before it comes back to you one way.
Speaker 1: You have fifteen picks before it comes back to you
Speaker 1: another way, So you can miss out on runs either way.
Speaker 1: And it's like you gotta wait so long for it
Speaker 1: to come back to you. Now. Look, I know it's
Speaker 1: harder for You know people who wait at the you
Speaker 1: know there at the end, they gotta wait even longer
Speaker 1: for it to come back to them. But you know
Speaker 1: they can make two picks in a close proximity. Pick eight.
Speaker 1: I mean you want to rip your hair out. You
Speaker 1: got to try and figure out, like, no, which which
Speaker 1: positional run is gonna start this way? Which positional runs
Speaker 1: gonna start this way? Trying to figure this out, like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to plan my draft the next three rounds
Speaker 1: in advance. That's good luck, Yeah, socks man. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: no one's forced me to play. I'm coming. I'm complaining
Speaker 1: about it. That was supposed to be stressful, right, it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be fun. Yeah, I'm stressed out over here.
Speaker 1: Well that is a big, big league, though, you know
Speaker 1: you want to do well in that week that league.
Speaker 1: I'm trying here, Greg, you know, don't have some fun, Frank,
Speaker 1: Let's have some up next. Frank's guy this offseason. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, if there's one guy that I associate
Speaker 1: with you going into this year, Tommy Fam, this is
Speaker 1: this is your guy, Tommy Fam. He isn't a tier
Speaker 1: According to the NFBC going up the board about pick
Speaker 1: sixty along with George Springer, Lorenzo Caine. I'll throw y'all
Speaker 1: puig in here, David Donald, Marcelosina. It's a big tier.
Speaker 1: But like that's kind of the tear. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: get all to them today. We won't have time. I
Speaker 1: realized that. But Frank, this is your opportunity. Why are
Speaker 1: you so in love the Tommy fan this year? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, what's not to love about Tommy fam
Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about stolen bases and stuff,
Speaker 1: and this is a guy who, all right, last year
Speaker 1: he only stole fifteen basses, but the year before that
Speaker 1: he stole twenty five. And I think, I think, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have the green light right when when
Speaker 1: he went over to the Tampa Bay Rays last year,
Speaker 1: in thirty nine games, which is about a quarter of
Speaker 1: an MLB season, he stole five bases. So I think
Speaker 1: he can come close to stealing twenty bases. You know,
Speaker 1: he's hit twenty one and twenty three home runs over
Speaker 1: the past two years. He's another guy where he hits
Speaker 1: a lot of groundballs groundball rate for his career, but
Speaker 1: hits a lot of line drives, hits the ball extremely hard.
Speaker 1: I'm talking extremely hard. Forty eight and a half percent
Speaker 1: hard hit rate for the season. Last year in the
Speaker 1: sample with the Tampa Bay Rays that went up to
Speaker 1: fifty one percent. So he hits the ball extremely hard.
Speaker 1: He's able to maintain a whole high home run the
Speaker 1: fly ball ratio even though he only hits around thirty
Speaker 1: percent fly balls. He maintains that because he hits the
Speaker 1: ball so hard. When he makes contact on his fly balls,
Speaker 1: you know, one out of every five of those are
Speaker 1: flying over the wall. I think he could be a guy,
Speaker 1: maybe even more than that. Basic He scored a hundred
Speaker 1: runs last year too, and that was only Dred seven games.
Speaker 1: You know, only seven games. I know, you kind of
Speaker 1: gotta bake that into him because look, he has he's
Speaker 1: never played more than a hundred and thirty seven games
Speaker 1: and he's only played two full seasons. To Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of an interesting dude, right Like last
Speaker 1: year with the Sports Illustrated stuff, the article before the
Speaker 1: year where he basically said, like, mind, I'm better than
Speaker 1: the Cardinals players. Why the why the f are these
Speaker 1: guys playing over me? You know exactly, he was like
Speaker 1: cursing during the interview and stuff. You know, he was
Speaker 1: very honest. You know, he wasn't shy about that. I
Speaker 1: remember Nando said he loved that about him. He loved
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry not if you're watching, but look, that
Speaker 1: was something he hates. You Well, Look he went he
Speaker 1: near with a hundred runs scored to seventy five batting
Speaker 1: average last year. I think he's he's better than a
Speaker 1: two seventy five batting average UM. Looking at his UH
Speaker 1: is expected batting average from last year, it was two
Speaker 1: eighties seven expected batting averages three or six year before.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think I think it'd be a
Speaker 1: two to ninety guy, a hundred runs scored. He's got
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. I mean, I think I plays a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty games. He could be with a hundred run
Speaker 1: scored with a good batting average. He could be And
Speaker 1: you're getting to three rounds later he walked along. I
Speaker 1: like the guy. I don't see anything really bad about him.
Speaker 1: Besides that, I don't like the fact that you don't
Speaker 1: really hit a ton of doubles. Just said Talmers, really,
Speaker 1: but who would you rather have? Tem discipline is great
Speaker 1: to George Sprayer, I rather have George Spring up, okay,
Speaker 1: hell come of the lineup, uh up, just a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a pedigree on the Springer's belt, and
Speaker 1: I think Spring is a guy that could hit Springer
Speaker 1: two years younger. Essentially, he's thirty one years old. Tommy
Speaker 1: FAM's late bloomer. Like I said, he kind of had
Speaker 1: a weird career. Definitely, Well, a lot of guys come
Speaker 1: in late. It's okay, it's not wrong with that. But
Speaker 1: George Springer, he hasn't really lived up to our expectations
Speaker 1: we've wanted him to be. He doesn't steal bases, Like
Speaker 1: look at his stolen basis and his stealing the past
Speaker 1: three years, six and four. Last season he went five
Speaker 1: for twelve, so five stolen basis, seven calls stealing in
Speaker 1: seventeen nine stolen bases, ten at stealing. So he's not
Speaker 1: a bas He's not gonna give you stolen bases. He's
Speaker 1: kind of an accumulator. Like he played a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty two games in twenty sixteen. He needed all one
Speaker 1: sixty two to hit twenty nine home runs in a
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen runs scored. He's he's an accumulator. I
Speaker 1: just I don't feel like rung with that. It's five.
Speaker 1: He needs to stay healthy, like the past two years
Speaker 1: he's missed at least twenty games a year. He plays
Speaker 1: a hundred forty forty games back to back years. Was
Speaker 1: down to twenty two last year. Absolutely hard hit rates
Speaker 1: not great. It went down last year. It seems like
Speaker 1: he's always kind of battling some kind of nagging injury
Speaker 1: or mechanical problems. What's your projection for George Springer to
Speaker 1: sixty five maybe to seventy twenty seven eight homers going
Speaker 1: to score a lot of runs. He's gonna give a
Speaker 1: hundred hundred ten runs maybe d r A d r B.
Speaker 1: I no stolen basis five not five, okay five Tommy
Speaker 1: to eighty so better batting average, he'll give you home runs,
Speaker 1: so less less less for sure, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a hundred runs. So I trust more, trust Springer
Speaker 1: more for I trust Springer more for runs. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that big of a difference. Agree, I
Speaker 1: just bring it more for RBI. Not that big of
Speaker 1: a difference. And then maybe you know, fifteen and twenty
Speaker 1: more sole basis from Tommy fam and a better batting average,
Speaker 1: So better batting average and better soleing basis two very
Speaker 1: hard categories to come by in Rhodo over George Springer.
Speaker 1: And then George Springer gives you slightly more pop, slightly
Speaker 1: more runs, and he gives you more RBI and more doubles.
Speaker 1: To me, I want, you know, I want the batting
Speaker 1: average and stolen basis. So I have Tommy Fan Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's close in points leagues. I like Springing
Speaker 1: a lot though, just because volume, like great lineup. He's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, like he he walks ten percent of the time.
Speaker 1: They both walk a lot. Similar. George Bringer strikes out
Speaker 1: a little bit less, you know, George Springer kind of
Speaker 1: like Chris Bryant significantly less kind of you know, George
Speaker 1: Springer kind of like Chris Bryant and his MLB career. He's, uh,
Speaker 1: he's he's up, the batting average lowered, he's lowered the
Speaker 1: strikeouts a little bit more. But in terms of that,
Speaker 1: like Chris Bryant the past couple of years, he's been
Speaker 1: made a more conscious ever to make contacts instead of,
Speaker 1: you know, just swinging for the fence and striking out more.
Speaker 1: So I think I think George Springer tried to do
Speaker 1: that the second half last year also, right, So his
Speaker 1: batting average went up fifty points the first half of
Speaker 1: second half to four nine the first half, three or
Speaker 1: one in the second half. Right, But I think he
Speaker 1: made a more conscious effort to make contact. As you said, Frank,
Speaker 1: fifteen home runs in the first half, just seven in
Speaker 1: the second half. It was clear that he just simply
Speaker 1: changed his approach. If you want to look at the
Speaker 1: batted ball data um in the second half, he his
Speaker 1: hard hit rate actually was slightly less than it wasn't
Speaker 1: the first half, Okay, groundball rate in the second half.
Speaker 1: He was trying to make contact. It wasn't all George
Speaker 1: spring hard hit rate last year. I want to know
Speaker 1: George Springs harder hit rates the two years probor though
Speaker 1: I have the thirty six percent two years ago, thirty
Speaker 1: three percent three years ago. Okay, I feel like this
Speaker 1: is like an outlier year for Springer, though I feel
Speaker 1: like he's closer to thirty plus two their five home
Speaker 1: run guy. Then he's he's been a full time player
Speaker 1: for about four season now. He's always kind of in
Speaker 1: his time. He's only played a hundred and sixty games once.
Speaker 1: I didn't only put add fifty games. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of guys do that. But he's only hit thirty He's
Speaker 1: he's hit thirty four home runs only once. He's only
Speaker 1: had thirty plus once fans, And that was the year
Speaker 1: he had well, actually he didn't even have a full season,
Speaker 1: but the full season he had twenty nine. So thirty. Basically,
Speaker 1: you know he's got the power he has. Agree, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I definitely give him that. He definitely give him the
Speaker 1: power over Tommy fans, no doubt about that. I just
Speaker 1: wonder what happened to the stolen basis he had sixteen
Speaker 1: and twenty. Well, it's it's very simple. He's bad at it.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. He's bad at it twenty. This is
Speaker 1: an organizational philosophy thing. Carlos Korea doesn't steal bases anymore either,
Speaker 1: I know, to a like he's Those are probably gonna
Speaker 1: come down this year too of injury. So, as fan
Speaker 1: Graphs notes, you don't steal a lot of basses, as
Speaker 1: fan grafs notes, which I I told you, he's got
Speaker 1: a percentage of second about fifty percent. He's last year
Speaker 1: was his fourth straight season where his groundball rate increased,
Speaker 1: which is really very bad. That is that is scary.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see that. Look in Rhodo. I
Speaker 1: don't really want Springer and points. I'll take him. Listen
Speaker 1: this line. It's just tough to find any positive traits
Speaker 1: for him. Who said that Fan Grafts ventures about to
Speaker 1: go knock on someone. He's a great he's hitting my
Speaker 1: bat and he's a great source of runs. That's a
Speaker 1: great team. This is Jeff Zimmerman saying that a great
Speaker 1: team you should get Jeff Sierman on the sholf after this.
Speaker 1: That's what he doesn't see anything that's good about him. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's why he's Why is he a fantasy relevant player?
Speaker 1: Then Springers once had once had a rounded skill set,
Speaker 1: but now it's seen as skills stabilized and begins to decline.
Speaker 1: He's productive with little upside as he ages into his thirties.
Speaker 1: I disagree. You want to read Jeff's erman on Tommy
Speaker 1: fam Yes, all right, where you finding these little tidbits?
Speaker 1: Where do you where though? All the profile? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: What owners need to come to groups with is how
Speaker 1: much of the drop was regression and how much was aging?
Speaker 1: When it comes to Tommy Fam because he saw a
Speaker 1: bunch of averages dropped in. His owners should expecting to
Speaker 1: season with a two eight average. He retains quite a
Speaker 1: bit of value on basically because he's a twelve walk right.
Speaker 1: The big issues surrounding FAM is if and when and
Speaker 1: if he's when his eye disease uh, Herod's not heat
Speaker 1: tokenist will become an issue again a major leage hit
Speaker 1: her with vision issues. But about his eyes? Fantasy owners
Speaker 1: are scared off by his medical history. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He's a five category attributor. FAM provides value in all
Speaker 1: fast to the game while seventeen. His production should continue,
Speaker 1: especially if he stays healthy. And we just have you
Speaker 1: try and pronounce that word over and over again, Harry talking.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not an easy one. I'm not blaming you.
Speaker 1: Why is he kind of fun about his eye to
Speaker 1: an eye surgery? Is that definitely? What do you say that? When?
Speaker 1: Did he have the eye surgery? Can we get the
Speaker 1: phonetic spelling? Hang on, I'll look it up. No, I
Speaker 1: do remember this was the thing last here with Tommy Family.
Speaker 1: I think he had eye surgery. But when I'm thinking
Speaker 1: did he play after the eye surgery, because if he did,
Speaker 1: I mean the guy walked eight a ton of times
Speaker 1: to seventy. Sometimes listen to this. Hang on, oh Jesus,
Speaker 1: that's all right, well you're getting insected. Hang it was that.
Speaker 1: Here you go, carrots actis alright, you weren't that far off?
Speaker 1: Job pasaconis And here's your spelling. Be word of the day,
Speaker 1: paconism his vision vision saving surgery. Look at that. Chris
Speaker 1: is Laurenzo Caine in this crew with Springer, and who
Speaker 1: else is Tommy fam right now? Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. I like him in
Speaker 1: the lineup, man, I like him where he is. Lurenzoka
Speaker 1: is the oldest out of all these guys, will be
Speaker 1: thirty three come April. I don't have him in the
Speaker 1: same tire. You don't have him at the start of
Speaker 1: the next year year. Tier three for me is Sally Marte,
Speaker 1: Juan Soto, Andrew ben attending, Chris Davis with a Ka,
Speaker 1: Reese Hoskins with Maryfield, Cody Bellinger, Tommy Fame, George Springer,
Speaker 1: and Chris Bryant. That's the end of this tier. Tier
Speaker 1: four starts Outfiller number twenty is Lorenzo Kin you have him.
Speaker 1: Let start, He's a three category contributor, steals three very
Speaker 1: tough categories to come by, steals un and average can
Speaker 1: make You can make the case that those are the
Speaker 1: three toughest categories. They are. That's just three tough. The
Speaker 1: three toughest category are not a category, right, So average average,
Speaker 1: it was been in the league average or on basement
Speaker 1: when it comes to last walks seventy one times last year,
Speaker 1: I think we took him over you in a CESPDUS
Speaker 1: if you're if you're watching or listening, Michael Florio as
Speaker 1: a call back to last year, was hurt and Lorenzo
Speaker 1: Caine went in the middle of the fourth round in
Speaker 1: my draft. Who was he was paired with Nolan Eronado,
Speaker 1: which is just fantastic pictures. Yeah, it was Eronado and
Speaker 1: great synderguard Lorenzo Caine. Excellent, big fan of that. Better
Speaker 1: than my team, Yes, your first four years, Jose Ramirez,
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, Walker Bueller, James Paxson. Thanks, I think, but
Speaker 1: I think both teams are good. Yes, I would say
Speaker 1: he's probably done a better job after that. I don't
Speaker 1: like I don't really like Joey Vado, but he took
Speaker 1: Joey Vado. You know this guy's average. But yeah, like Lorenzo,
Speaker 1: Caine is a perfect player to pair with again, Eronado
Speaker 1: and j D. Martinez their four category contributors. But you
Speaker 1: you're continuing to get I mean, with Eronado and and
Speaker 1: j D. Martinez, you're continuing to get batting average category.
Speaker 1: You're continuing to get run category. You're also getting stolen
Speaker 1: basis and you can afford to take a little bit
Speaker 1: of a hit at the home runs and the RBIs
Speaker 1: because those guys are gonna give you so much yea,
Speaker 1: and plus you can find like RBIs and home runs
Speaker 1: later on in the draft. Mike Mustock is, you could
Speaker 1: get ten twelveth rounds. So that's why if you'll find
Speaker 1: a lot of guys like that. So this is why
Speaker 1: I like Lorenzo Teaen. He's a good fit though, like
Speaker 1: with with these players, and he's a good player. I mean,
Speaker 1: the average is always gonna be around three hundred. He
Speaker 1: doesn't he walks a lot. He does. He should go
Speaker 1: in the fourth round of a fifteen team draft. He should.
Speaker 1: He don't want him as my outfielder one though, I
Speaker 1: think he's a great outfielder too. Here's the thing, the walks.
Speaker 1: Historically he's not this big. I think he's gotten better
Speaker 1: man maybe yeah, experience, maybe he's played discipline one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got But I think we gotta expect maybe the
Speaker 1: stole basis to go down a little bit as he
Speaker 1: gets older. He's an older player. I don't think the
Speaker 1: sole basically gonna hang around much long. Grades going not
Speaker 1: eleven and a half percent less at age, you know,
Speaker 1: in his age season, because he's gonna be thirty three.
Speaker 1: All right, then you know, some people might get scared
Speaker 1: off and kind of like see the end coming here.
Speaker 1: But dude, not the three or higher batting average in
Speaker 1: the four of the past five seasons. He's always gonna
Speaker 1: miss a couple of games. Like he'll probably have one
Speaker 1: t L stint per year. Ninety runs scored in a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty games in the in the Brewers lineup,
Speaker 1: hurt you in home runs in RBIs like ten and
Speaker 1: thirty eight. That's very bad, very bad. He's not a
Speaker 1: power here, very bad. You don't even hit it doubles.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what about it? Yeah about it? I forgot that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Lorenzo Kin and George Prayer. Frank should do
Speaker 1: you have to change my rankings? Yeah, I'll still take
Speaker 1: I'll still take Springer. Lorenzo Caine's a little bit up
Speaker 1: there in age. He's also gonna miss some time. I'll
Speaker 1: take Springer. Yeah, we get a whole lot more outfitters
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