1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Now. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 3: All right, we've been trying to track him down for 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: a bit, but he's really busy. He's finally with us 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: for very please, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Mister Secretary, welcome 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: on the program. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Hey man, this I think this is my inaugural visit 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: to the program. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: We're honored to have you. Clay sends his regards. He 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: is on the golf course today. I'm hearing rumors that 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: he hited three hundred and forty yards from the back teez. 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true or not, but this 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 4: is what people are saying. But tell me this. Let's 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 4: let's let's just leave to. 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: Play on the golf course on the day I show up. 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's do this. Though, tell me what's going on. 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Particularly, I'm a New Yorker at least I grew up 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: in New York, so I spent plenty of time in 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Newark Airport. It has been a total mess. The air 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: traffic control situation seems like it's a disaster that you 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: inherited here. And is it getting better? What is the problem. 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Why are we constantly having all these flight delays that 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: aren't weather related? How does it get fixed? You got 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: a lot of frustrated flyers out there. We're hoping you're 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: going to help clear all this nonsense up. What's going on? 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, So first we have to recognize this has been 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: a problem that's been burning for a long time, but 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: it was coming to a head over the last four years. 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: Over the last administration, our government watchdog group sold Biden 31 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: and Bluta judge listener, you're going to have real problems. 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: You need to fix the air traffic control system, and 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: they did into anything. So they've left it to us. 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: And what you saw in Newark is kind of a 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: culmination of several of the problems that we have in 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: the airspace. And they happened at the same time. So 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: in Newark you had three things. One, they shut down 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: a runway to repay it, right, they open it up 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: thirteen days before schedule. Great out the poort authority. But 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: the two issues that remaining are issues that we see 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: throughout the whole system. We're three thousand air traffic controllers 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: short nationwide, and so you're seeing a lack of controllers 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: in the Philly Tracon that controls the Newark air space, 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: and then we're having teletoon issues. Our our infrastructure for 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: air traffic control still uses copper wires. Nobody uses copper 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: wires anymore. Everyone's on fiber. So we were having telecom 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: issues in the Philly Traycon and we resolved that issue 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: on on the on the on the copper wire. But 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Verizon moved incredibly fast, our partner there, and laid brand 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: new fiber between Philly and New York, and so it's 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: not way. We're still testing that that that uh, that fiber. 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: You want to be ultra safe before you switch it over. 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: That will be tested through probably the end of June 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: or early July. And then there's twenty two controllers in 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: the Philly Traycon. Six of them are out right now, 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: five for the trauma that they had because of the 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: outages from late April early May. One is on sick lead. 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: We brought in twenty two new controllers to train in 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Silly right now. 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: Now. 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: When I say a new controller, what I mean is 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: this could be an air traffic controller who is certified 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: in a different airspace, say Denver, if they come to 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: the Philly tray con to control a different airspace, they 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: have to get recertified on that specific airspace. And so 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: most of these are experienced controllers, but it's going to 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: take them time to get certified. So the problems of 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: telecom and the problems of the runway, and the problems 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: of the controllers, you're going to have a slow roll 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: of continual improvement. But you were seeing and I'm giving 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: you a lot of information here, Buck, but what you 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: saw was this, we reduced the capacity a new So 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: all these flights were scheduled, but they weren't flying because 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: we reduced the capacity, and you saw delays and cancelations, 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: and it was a disaster for a couple of weeks. 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: What we've done is we've got all the airlines to 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: agree that we're gonna reduce our capacity. So if you 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: book in Newark now, you actually fly. And that's what's key. 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: No one wants to go to be here and wait 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: four hours and be canceled. So because of the agreement 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: that we have at Newark, everyone says, Okay, we're not 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: gonna have as many flights coming out of here, but 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: the ones we do have will actually go. So we're 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: on the path to resolve in it. But all these 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: solutions take time because you can't set your fingers and 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: create more controllers, and you can't you know, quickly run 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: fiber and then you know, cook be tested. But we're 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: doing it and it's going to get better in Newark. 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: But give me some grace now. 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: Nationwide, mister Secretary, there's also it feels like and you 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: see a lot of people complaining about it on X 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure just flight delays have it feels like the 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: problem is constantly getting worse, not better. So you've talked 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: to us about Newark, but just in general across the country, 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: how do we get it so that especially a lot 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: of these routes where people are flying, you know, and 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: there's a sixty or seventy percent delay rate, Some of 98 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: these delay rates just seems unconscionable. Is that a function 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: of airlines got to scale back the flights? Is it 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: air traffic control? How do we get it so that 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: people can really believe credibly if there's clear skies. Okay, 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about if there's tornadoes or crazy weather, 103 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: but if the weather is fine, their plane's probably going 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: to take off when it's supposed to and they're probably 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: going to get off it when they're supposed to. 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we are using equipment that is you know, 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty five years old in whether it's 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: the towers that are at the airports, the traycon you know, 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: is the next ring out from the tower. It's really 110 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: old equipment and it's really old telecom. And so I'm 111 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: gonna need a lot of money from Congress. It should 112 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: have been done, you know, a decade ago. It wasn't, 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: and we have to basically gut and build brand new 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: our air traffic control system with the best technology in 115 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: the world. We can do it really quickly. It's going 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: to take you know, three years. If the Congress clears 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: the committing process for me. If I don't have to 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: go through an EPA that just you know stacks, you know, 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: you know, a month upon month or a year upon year, 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: they clear that for me, we're going to be able 121 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: to do it fast. And what you'll see is you 122 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: can handle greater capacity with the new system that we're 123 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: going to build, and as new technology becomes available, you 124 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: can deploy it off this new system to get even 125 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: more efficiencies. It's it's instead of having buck instead of 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: having the flip phone that you can send as many 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: updates as you want to your razor flip phone. If 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: that's in your genre, it was in mine, you can 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's not an update. It is what it is. 130 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: It's all it's antiquated. That's what we have right now. 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: But if I build you an I Own fifteen, you 132 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: can deploy a ton of technology off of it. We're 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: gonna build you the iPhone fifteen that you can build 134 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: technology off of. And you have to think that we're 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: gonna have more air travel, but it's going to get 136 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: more complicated because we're going to deploy. In the next years, 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna see drone technology expand and services expands throughout 138 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: the country, where you're gonna get Amazon deliveries, you're gonna 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: get your your Uber Eats, You're gonna get a hocked 140 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: up of coffee from Starbucks if you stop, if you 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: get your coffee at Starbucks, all by a drone. And 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna have evatols. These are like the Ubers in 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: the air. They're they're they're they're they're they're big drones 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: that you can hold, you know, three four people in 145 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: You're going to see those deploy in the airspace. 146 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: How far are we from that, mister Secretary, because that 147 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: sounds pretty cool. 148 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: It's very cool. So they're they're testing these uh these 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: uh evatols right now. They're they're they're I think you 150 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: can see the technology Advance or Sure, which is one 151 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: of the technologies, is actually as a contract with the 152 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Olympics in twenty twenty eight, and it's not just the 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: showcase of technology. They actually have to use that technology 154 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: to move people around all the different sites at the 155 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: LA Olympics. So it's moving very fast. The FAA has 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: to certify it, make sure it's safe. Eventually you'll see 157 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: you and have These will not be piloted. They can 158 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: be autonomous or right now in certain parts of the 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: country like in Texas, then the drone deliveries are are 160 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: happening in certain parts of the country right now. Evey successful. 161 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: People love them. And what they've done with drones is 162 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: obviously the noise becomes a concern. They've done really well 163 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: innovating on props to reduce the noise. You really know 164 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: what's in the sky when it's covering over your house, 165 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: drop in product or setting product down. 166 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: That's very cool. 167 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's looking forward to having that going on. But obviously, 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: if it's tough to have air traffic control for planes, 169 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: if we put thousands, tens of thousands, however many drones 170 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: and air taxis in the sky, that's gonna I assume 171 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: that's going to result in some interesting air traffic issues 172 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: as well. 173 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: So hopefully that'll all get squared away. 174 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: Tell us about the report you just released California's high 175 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: speed rail sixteen billion dollars, seventeen years, no track laid. 176 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: How is that possible? 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question. So first, I'm a conservative. 178 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: I would love to have high speed rail in America. 179 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: I think it would be great if we can do it. 180 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: This was the first big project and like liberals, seem 181 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: to always deliver the same results, which are not very good. 182 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be done years ago and it 183 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: was supposed to cost a little over twenty billion dollars. 184 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: They haven't laid any track. They've spent billions. They've now 185 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: told us that they can complete a truncated portion of 186 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: the project by twenty thirty three. We looked at their data. 187 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: They've give us eighty thousand pages of documents. They just 188 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: can't do it. And so they have what four billion 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: dollars of grants that have been given by the DOT 190 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: And it's our philosophy that there's if we give them 191 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: that for if we let that for billion dollars go, 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: that's four billion we don't have for other good projects 193 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: around the country. And I think the taxpayer expects us 194 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: to spend their money well and not to invest in boondoggles. 195 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: And so where do the money? 196 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: I got to ask mister Sigre. Where sixteen billion dollars. 197 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: It's a lot of money for a state level project. 198 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: What was it spent on? 199 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: So they were they were buying land right and by 200 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: the way, there's there is an eyebrow raised for me 201 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: in that I was the land Who is buying land 202 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: along the route of this of this proposed high speed rail? 203 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: And how much money did they make and how they 204 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: connected to politicians? All those questions need to be asked 205 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: and looked at. Is you know, was there any criminal activity? 206 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think it should be looked at. 207 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: The project now it's it is out over ten years. 208 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: And if they did the full project, there was supposed 209 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: to be you know, you know, tens of billions. It 210 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: would be one hundred and thirty billion dollars to actually 211 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: build it, and they still don't know that they can 212 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: do it in any specific timeframe. So you have to 213 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: recognize that it's a nice concept. But Liberals all spend 214 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: money well, and they haven't done it well in this project. 215 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: And so at what point does does the government cut 216 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: bait and say, you know what, We're not going to 217 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: do this one. But maybe there's other good projects across 218 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: the country that we could invest in that would that 219 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: would serve the population. 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: Law and tell us about what's in the assuming it 221 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: gets passed more or less as as is, uh, what 222 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: is in the big beautiful bill that will go to 223 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: transportation that will make a difference to the American people. 224 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: So for us, there's twelve billion dollars for this brand 225 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: new air traffic control system. That's not going to be enough. 226 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: You got to think about this. It's this is the biggest, 227 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: it's nationwide infrastructure. It is the most important infrastructure that 228 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: we're going to build on in the last several decades 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: for sure, because it's such a big part of our economy. 230 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: People find whether it's business or pleasure. We move a 231 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: lot of products through the air and so we have 232 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: twelve billion. We'll need more than that at a later point. 233 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: We're going to have to give it to us. One 234 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: of the problems buck in the past is the Congress 235 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: would give tranches of money to the FAA and then 236 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: the priority would change or the administration changes, and they 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: never got the money. So we need to get the 238 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: money up front. So twelve billion is a nice start. 239 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: We can begin the project, but this year I need 240 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: to get the rest of the money, and then in 241 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: that secondary bill we can hopefully get the throwing the 242 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: deck of the of the of the permits. I also 243 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: think is that polls making sure we don't get a 244 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: massive tax increase. That's big force and the big beautiful bill. Also, 245 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: there's a provision that if you buy a brand new 246 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: car that was made in America, you can write up 247 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: to right off up to ten thousand dollars of your 248 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: interest payments on the vehicle, So again incentivizing people to 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: buy new cars. And the president's doing all kinds of 250 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: things to deliver on the promises that he made during 251 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: the campaign, which, by the way, is nice that we 252 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: have presidents that actually do what they say or try 253 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: to accomplish what they promised. 254 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Sir, thank you so much for 255 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: being with us, and please fix all the things. 256 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: We appreciate it. 257 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: In the podole of two bucks right at your house, 258 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: I got to you. 259 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got me. Thank you, sir. 260 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. 261 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 262 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: We're talking to Ron Vitello, US Customs and Border Protections 263 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: Senior Advice. 264 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: Ron. 265 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: Thanks for making the time for us. Let's just start 266 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 4: with this. 267 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: How is it that Trump is able to secure the 268 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: southern border almost at a one hundred percent level. I 269 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 3: mean it's in the ninety something percent drop so quickly. 270 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: How do you do it? 271 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 6: Leadership matters. He's got a good team in place, with 272 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 6: the likes of Secretary Nome, and there are now consequences 273 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 6: unlike anything I've ever seen on the Southwest border. So 274 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 6: that rhetoric that says we're going to do this, the 275 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 6: American people gave him that mandate action by the front line, 276 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: you know, directed by the leadership, and actual consequences to 277 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 6: the event of crossing the border illegally are now in 278 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 6: place in a way, like I've said, like you know, 279 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 6: I've been in and out of this business for forty years, 280 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: and I've never seen anything like it. It was so 281 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 6: rapid the change at the Southwest border, it even surprised me. 282 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: But so I think this would be really interesting, Ron, 283 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: if I if I could just ask you, because I 284 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: had seen, unfortunately in the bad old days of the wide. 285 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: Open border, what happens. People would would walk up to 286 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: border patrol. I mean they would. 287 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: Walk across where there wasn't a wall or there wasn't barrier, 288 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: which there's a lot of places where that's still the case. 289 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: They'd walk up and they would wave border patrol down. 290 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: They would say here I am, and sometimes through a translator, 291 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: or sometimes they would say it in English some version 292 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: of I have a credible fear of violence in my country. 293 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: And they would be processed and let into America, sometimes 294 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: with a like a ticket to a peer, or turn 295 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: and show up somewhere in the system later on. 296 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: I mean, the whole thing was just a joke. 297 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: What happens now if you show up and you just 298 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: want to come into America illegally. 299 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 6: Well, it's a high likelihood that when you're arrested, if 300 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: even if you gave up or if you were trying 301 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 6: to evade. There's a lot of that's still going on. 302 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: You're taking into custody like before, you're put into the 303 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 6: system like before, and then you referred for prosecution, the 304 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 6: acceptance right from the US Attorney's office all across the 305 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 6: southwest border and then northern border in some places as 306 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 6: well as over ninety percent. And so I'll just give 307 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 6: you an example of what that means. When I was 308 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 6: a second line supervisor in Nogallas, Arizona, we could not 309 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 6: present a smuggling case, a criminal felony smuggling case, to 310 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 6: the US Attorney's office unless there were fifteen smuggled aliens 311 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 6: in the vehicle that we were trying to prosecute the 312 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 6: smuggler for driving. Right now, they're taking first time entrants 313 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 6: who enter the border illegally as a case. It's dramatically 314 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 6: different than it's ever been. And so the high likelihood 315 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: is that after your process and put into the system, 316 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 6: you're going to be referred and then accepted for prosecution, 317 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: and you'll have to see a judge for the crime 318 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 6: committed crossing the border illegally when that process is over, 319 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 6: and those individuals sentenced regardless of what country they're from, 320 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: they're sent back very rapidly. The average time and custody 321 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 6: for folks that are in iced attention is very very low, 322 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 6: lower than it's been in a long time. And so 323 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: people are being removed from the US all over the 324 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 6: world in very short order. 325 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: And also I'm seeing a lot of confusion ron from 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: some parts of the media, maybe confusion, surprise, astonishment that 327 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: there's such a drop in Fentanel at the border that's 328 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: crossing what's going on there, Because I think I think 329 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: our audience, I think everybody right now, they listen, they go, oh, 330 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: I think I know what's going on. 331 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course they know that this has been a 332 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 6: problem for many, many years. The President engaged worldwide, specifically 333 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 6: in Canada and Mexico the threat of terroriffs tariffs just 334 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 6: to make sure that they weren't allowing precursors to come 335 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 6: into the country from China and that they had to 336 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 6: do more on the border, on the physical border, to 337 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 6: protect that border. And so both of those countries engaged 338 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: again in ways I never seen. Right, ten thousand troops 339 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 6: from the Mexican National Guard deployed on their northern border, 340 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: our southern border Canada has done more to protect their 341 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 6: physical border than I've ever seen. Helicopters, night vision equipment, 342 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 6: dedicated patrols from state, local, provincial, and the Royal Canadian 343 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 6: Mounted Police, and so everybody is doing their part to 344 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 6: help protect those borders and the sovereignty of each of 345 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 6: their countries, thereby giving us a better chance at the 346 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 6: physical border to find this stuff, and then the cartels 347 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 6: know that it's just not a walk in the park 348 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 6: as it was for the four years of the Biden administration. 349 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: That's remarkable. 350 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: Just to make sure that everyone is clear on this one, 351 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: what you're telling me is that on tariffs alone, there 352 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: has been a big. 353 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: Victory for the border, so that the tool of. 354 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: Tariff negotiations to get us border security that's already a win, 355 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 3: is what I'm gathering from what you're saying, especially with you, 356 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: or rather with Mexico and Canada. 357 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 6: One percent, there is no question that Canada and Mexico 358 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 6: are doing more than they have ever done in the 359 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 6: history of the relationships of these three countries than they 360 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 6: are doing right now today. And recognize, you know, Canada 361 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 6: put together legislation to spend millions of dollars on their 362 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 6: border to help us to help identify the threats that 363 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 6: are there. They now have a fentanyl zar, which they 364 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 6: didn't have before. January twentieth, twenty twenty five, ten thousand 365 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 6: troops on the Mexican border. And you'll remember the rhetoric 366 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 6: when Trump got elected, Claudia Scheinbaum the president in Mexico, 367 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 6: all due respect, she was saying terrible things about how 368 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 6: she wasn't going to work, she wasn't going to do 369 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: the bidding of the United States or this president. She 370 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 6: deployed ten thousand troops. No one has ever done that 371 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: before her or since, and so that has led to 372 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 6: a huge reduction in illegal activity across the southwest border, 373 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 6: including fentanyl precursors into their country and then fentanyl across 374 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 6: our border. 375 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: We're talking to Ron Vitello, US Customs and Border Protection 376 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: Senior advisor for this administration. Ron, let's talk about big 377 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 3: beautiful Wall, major promise from Trump in the first term. 378 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: He has returned to this issue now in his second term. 379 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: I know that one of the ways that Steven Miller 380 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: and others are really trying to get people focused in 381 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: on the need to pass this big beautiful bill is 382 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: saying that there's ample funding for border patrol, including for 383 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: wall barrier actually securing it. What can you tell us 384 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: about that and the status of the wall right now? 385 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: How long would it take if we had the funding 386 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: to get a lot. 387 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: More of it in place. Let's do a little wall deep. 388 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 6: Dive well to get the requirement that's identified by the 389 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 6: more patrol supported by the president. Right, he built a 390 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 6: lot of wall in the first term Trump won, and 391 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 6: we expect to build a lot more in Trump two. 392 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 6: And so what we're doing now, with the help of 393 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: the Department of Defense, we have ten thousand of our 394 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 6: own troops on the southwest border helping the border patrol 395 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 6: side by side. Part of what they're doing is giving 396 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 6: agents better access to the border, fortifying the wall, and 397 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 6: increasing the infrastructure that prevents people from entering at the border. 398 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: About one hundred new miles of barrier placed either by 399 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 6: DoD or buy the border patrol itself with the existing 400 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 6: contracting and the funding left over from Trump one. So 401 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 6: Biden comes in, he puts a moratorium on all border construction, 402 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 6: and so it froze the activity for a while. And 403 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 6: now we're in the we have the ability for the 404 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: next year or so to spend the little money that's 405 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 6: left from Trump one on wall, and that's equated so 406 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 6: far to about one hundred miles, and then there'll be 407 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 6: new wall constructed using the funds from Trump one. And 408 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 6: then we're hopeful that when the reconciliation passes, there will 409 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 6: be a huge investment in infrastructure, including wall and tech 410 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: that supports the wall and the agents on the ground 411 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 6: access to the border, to give us about another hundred 412 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: about another seven hundred miles. Some of that will be 413 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 6: dual barrier. We'll have some stuff in the river and 414 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 6: on land in places like Texas where the river is 415 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 6: actually the border, and in other places will fortify what 416 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 6: exists an increased wall to about seven hundred new miles 417 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 6: under Trump two. 418 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: Is there a sense, and I know from just law 419 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 3: enforcements sources down along the border, border patrol sources and 420 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: the various collection platforms that we have, is there a 421 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: sense from the narco terrorist cartels on the other side 422 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: of the border that, oh, there's definitely a new sheriff 423 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: in town. 424 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 6: You know that there's pressure from the Mexican government, which 425 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 6: is as effective as it can be given the circumstances. 426 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 6: The military to military relationship is producing results, including US 427 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 6: helping TARGE get known cartel members both sides of the border, 428 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: and it's just really hard now to cross the border 429 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 6: versus the way it was before January twentieth, twenty twenty five, 430 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: and so they are not being as successful. We're watching 431 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 6: the reaction from the cartels. We had a really good 432 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 6: intercept in Laredo yesterday of unmanned aerial systems small drones, 433 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 6: if you will, one of those yesterday. 434 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 3: Wait, so they're using drones to try to drop off 435 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: product drugs. 436 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: We believe this one was counter surveillance. Ah okay, but 437 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 6: it remains to be seen. We're going to try to 438 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 6: exploit that the media that's in there to figure out 439 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 6: exactly what it was. 440 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: But so they're using drones to watch you guys or 441 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: your guys at border patrol. 442 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 6: Correct, correct, that's they're using them mostly for that, but 443 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 6: it's not unheard of for them to bring small packages, 444 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 6: I mean fentanyl. You know, the profit margin on fentanyl 445 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 6: is huge in Mexico, and so they use it for 446 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 6: those things as well. But again, giving agents time and ability, 447 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: this was something that wouldn't have happened seven months ago 448 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 6: because they were too distracted with the mash of humanity 449 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 6: that was coming into the border every twenty four hours. 450 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 6: Now we have the ability when those sensors go off 451 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 6: and when we can deploy against those active threats. They did, 452 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 6: in fact Caesar drone in Laredo yesterday, and that's what 453 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 6: the cartel is capable of, and so we'll see more 454 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 6: of that. You know, there was a seizure in San 455 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 6: Diego of about seven thousand pounds of methanthetamine in California, 456 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 6: which you know, we haven't seen a seizure in that 457 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 6: size in probably over a year, and it was because 458 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 6: the agents on the ground, the front line has the 459 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 6: time and ability to do the work, you know, using 460 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 6: the shoe leather, using their brains, using the intelligence holdings 461 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 6: that exist in the United States to track that seven 462 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 6: thousand pounds. We probably would not have gotten that pre 463 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 6: Trump because we're just too busy with the legal activity 464 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 6: that was coming across the border. So yeah, the cartels 465 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 6: have reacted. We're seeing increases on the coast near San Diego. 466 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: We expect that to be the case in near Brownsville 467 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 6: as well. The subterranean threat has now been magnified in 468 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: the sense that the land border is much harder to cross, 469 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 6: and so all the alternative routes of entry are going 470 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 6: to start to be used and exploited, and so we 471 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 6: need to be vigilant. That's why we need to backstop 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 6: what the frontline can do with policy and rhetoric and consequences. 473 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 6: With more resources as in wall, as an infrastructure, as 474 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: in boots on the ground, that all has to be 475 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 6: fortified and sustained if we want to keep the promise 476 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 6: of making America safe again. 477 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: Wondering if you could just speak to the morale of 478 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: the men and women of border patrol now and what 479 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: it feels like to have the mission and resources squared 480 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 3: away like they have been so far in this administration. 481 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, the morale is very high. Lots of smiles 482 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 6: on the faces of the men and women who now 483 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 6: have the tools and the support that they require to 484 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 6: be successful. You know, agents are recruited because they are 485 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: interested in a career that it is mostly outdoors that 486 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 6: mostly protects the country, that mostly is involved in activity 487 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 6: designed to protect us all. And they weren't able to 488 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: do that for the last for the for the last administration, 489 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 6: for the entirety of Biden administration. They are back in business. 490 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 6: The nonsense is over. They have support all the way 491 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 6: to the Oval office. You have the Secretary Noome out 492 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 6: there visiting face to face with the front line, asking 493 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 6: them what they need, ensuring they have those tools, and 494 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 6: watching them be successful. And it's not just the incumbent agents, 495 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 6: but it's also recruitment is off the charts, doubled since 496 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 6: you know, before Trump, and so yeah, it's all going 497 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 6: in that right direction as it relates to them being success, 498 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 6: which is why most of them are there. That's why 499 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 6: they take the oath because they want to protect us 500 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 6: all and now they have an opportunity to succeed as well. 501 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: Ronvitzello, advisor to CBP, Thanks for the good work, so 502 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: I appreciate you being here. 503 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 6: Thanks for inviting me. 504 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: This is Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 505 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: We're joined by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. Senator Mark Waynemullen. 506 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Senator Mullen, well also correct, good to have 507 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: you on. 508 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: Senator Buck, thanks for having me on. And anything works, 509 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: but you don't have to call the title Mark Wayne 510 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: Mullen idiot. Full All those work. I'll enter to them 511 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: all I. 512 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: Believe you are an MMA fighter, so I'm going. 513 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: To pass on the idiot, but I will I will 514 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: definitely keep in mind that you are not one who 515 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: stands on ceremony and formality, So thank you for that. 516 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but tell me this. 517 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: I mean, look, we you know, I don't know. I'm 518 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: sure you know what this is lake, your United States Senator. 519 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: Some of us, you get a little cra and the 520 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: crossfire on some things. On the one hand, we're talking 521 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: we have people from the Trump White House on and 522 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: they're talking about the big beautiful bill, the great things 523 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: that will do the boom in the economy. They believe 524 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: it will bring about take home pay for homes, all 525 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: that stuff. The other side, we get people we have 526 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: had your colleague, Senator ran Paul Long, We've had your 527 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: colleagues Senator Ron Johnson on and they're saying, look, there's 528 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: some great stuff, but spends too much money. Where does 529 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: the big beautiful bills stand? 530 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: Now? 531 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: On the Senate side, walk us through what's going on, 532 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 3: what you like, what maybe needs to change, and what 533 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: we should expect. 534 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I mean, this bill's been getting 535 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: negotiated since November, So this does anything do everybody's had 536 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 5: had time to put their input, and they're going to 537 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 5: have more time to put their input. So I got 538 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 5: all the respects in the world for Ron Johnson and 539 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: Ran Paul, but the truth is their ideas are great, 540 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: but it's their idea and they're going to have to 541 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: get fifty one people to agree with them. And so 542 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: what we've got issues here is that we have Obama 543 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 5: slash Biden era policies. And I mean that sincerely, because 544 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 5: you know, Biden is just, you know, an extension of 545 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: the Obama era of policies except worse. So you have 546 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 5: that's what we're currently operating underneath. And now you have 547 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 5: the Trump policy error that's trying to come in place, 548 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: and we do that through reconciliation. We all want to 549 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 5: cut more spending, I mean physically being physically responsible is 550 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: honestly what we all want to do. But the House 551 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 5: will cuts one point six trillion dollars from deficit spending. 552 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 5: And that's true deficit spending. Now, I've been up here 553 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: for way too long, served in the House for ten 554 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: years and now two years in the Senate, and I 555 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: can tell you every time we've always had deficit cut. 556 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 5: It's always been a ten year cut, right, it's going 557 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: to save five hundred billion over ten years, and we 558 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 5: never actually achieve a ten year cut. This is one 559 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 5: point six trillion dollars cutting immediately, so it doesn't balance 560 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: a budget, but it does move forward. And as we 561 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: move forward with this bill, hopefully we can even do better. 562 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: Hopefully we can get to two trullion dollars and cuts. 563 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 5: Except at the same time, we're trying to implement you know, 564 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: campaign promises too, and the American people want the Trump 565 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 5: policies that he campaigned on. In one of them is 566 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: no tax on tips, no tax on on overtime, and 567 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: no tax on Social Security. Well that that adds costs too, 568 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: and so you've got to take it in and out 569 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 5: and reconciliation we can only deal with taxes and mandatory spending, 570 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: not discretionary spending. So we got a narrow window to 571 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 5: what we can actually work with. That's that's that's why 572 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: it's called reconciliation and requires fifty one votes. We're a budget, 573 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: which we'll start on, you know, the the budget just 574 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: I mean our discretionary spending moving forward right after this, 575 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: and that's a sixty vote threshold. So my point that 576 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get to Buck is that we have 577 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 5: a very narrow window that we can We're going to 578 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 5: get all the cuts we can possibly get at the 579 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: end of the day when this bill goes to the floor. 580 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: This one big, beautiful bill that we've been working on 581 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: since November, and everybody's haid the fringing prints on, everybody's 582 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: had an opportunity to put their input on. We're going 583 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 5: to put whatever is on the floor that can get 584 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: fifty one votes so we can get away from the 585 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: Biden era policies and move forward to the Trump era policies, 586 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: which is we're seeing the economy respond to already, and 587 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 5: we haven't passed the bill yet. 588 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to have you react, Senator moll into what 589 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: Senator Paul says here about four Republicans who he believes 590 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: will not go along with the bill as it stands. 591 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: This is cut three team play it. 592 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 7: I think there are four of us at this point, 593 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 7: and I would be very surprised if the bill at 594 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 7: least is not modified in a good direction. Look, I 595 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 7: want to vote for it. I'm for the tax cuts. 596 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 7: I've voted for the tax cuts before. I want the 597 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 7: tax cuts to be permanent. But at the same time, 598 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 7: I don't want to raise the debt ceialing five trillions. 599 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: So I've told him, if. 600 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 7: You take the debt ceiling off the bill, in all likelihood, 601 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 7: I can vote for what the agreement is on the 602 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 7: rest of the bill, and it doesn't have to be 603 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 7: perfect to my liking. But I can't be if I 604 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 7: vote for the five trillion dollar debt. Who's left in 605 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 7: Washington that cares about the debt? We'll have lost. But 606 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 7: the Jill people own the debt once they vote for this. 607 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: What do you make of that, Senator, Well, we're going 608 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: to have to raise a debt. 609 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 5: You know, it's kind of like taking over a failing business. 610 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 5: Right When you take over a failing business, you don't 611 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: just start making money day one. You have to invest 612 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 5: in it. And that's why you bring in investors, and 613 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: investors are expecting you to get a return. And that's 614 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: what the American people did. They invested in the Republican 615 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: Party and expecting the return. But you can't just simply 616 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 5: turn it around. The Biden administration spent like drunken sailors. 617 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 6: You know, we had. 618 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 5: Almost every almost every single agency in the last four 619 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 5: years has increased from fifty to one hundred percent in 620 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 5: what they're receiving for their budget in four years. So 621 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 5: we're cutting everybody's budget and we're bringing down the debt. 622 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 5: But you can't simply say that we're going to have 623 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: enough money to balance the budget immediately. We're going to 624 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 5: have to borrow more money. And I think in two 625 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 5: and a half maybe three years, we can balance it 626 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 5: and we won't have to borrow any money if we 627 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 5: continue down the Trump policies that he's put forth. But 628 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 5: you can't do it now. And so I don't know 629 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 5: what Ran Paul wants us to do, because we are 630 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 5: in debt and the debt limit is going to hit 631 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 5: us regardless of what we do if we pass this 632 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: bill we don't, it's going to hit us. And so 633 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 5: we have two choices as Republicans. We can put the 634 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 5: debt limit increase on reconciliation and only have to have 635 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 5: fifty one votes, meaning that we can do this without 636 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: the Democrats support, or we'd wait and we do it 637 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 5: on a budget bill, or we do it as a 638 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 5: standalone and we got to have sixty. So now we're 639 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 5: going to have to negotiate with Chuck Schumer and the 640 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: Democrats to get them to give us seven or maybe 641 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: even more votes, and probably more than likely by the 642 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 5: time we negotiate with them, there's going to be a 643 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 5: lot of Republicans that aren't going to want to vote 644 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 5: for it, and so instead of just having seven, we're 645 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: gonna end up having to have fifteen or twenty Democrats. Now, 646 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: can you imagine what type of deal we'll have to 647 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: strike with them, because we're going to raise a dead limit. 648 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 5: Regardless we're going to raise a dead limit, we're going 649 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 5: to raise it. If we raise it four point five trillion, 650 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 5: I will be willing to tell you Buck right now, 651 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 5: we'll have to raise it again another two and a 652 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 5: half trillion. And so I feel like we should just 653 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 5: go ahead and raise a dead limit enough that we 654 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 5: know if the numbers continue to grow the way they are, 655 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 5: with the GDP growing, with the debt decrease in deficit spending, 656 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 5: because we're doing one point six off of discretionary or 657 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 5: off of mandatory, and the next then when we start 658 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 5: doing the budget bills, we can even do more off 659 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 5: discretionary spending. By those two graphs, they're going to meet 660 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 5: in about two and a half for three years. It'll 661 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: be the first time that a president has balanced the 662 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 5: budget since Clinton. But we're gonna have to borrow the 663 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 5: money to get to that point. So, like I said, 664 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 5: we can do it now and negotiate with Republicans only, 665 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 5: or we're going to do it later because there is 666 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 5: no B. There's either A or B because C means 667 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 5: with default and we're not going to default on the 668 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: money we spent. We spent it, regardless we like it 669 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: or not. We spent it, so we got to pay 670 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 5: it back. 671 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: Speaking in Oklahoma, Centator Mark Wayne Mullen and Senator Mullen, 672 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: you're talking about balancing the budget in the future, not 673 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 3: on this Big beautiful What is the is the official 674 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: what is the official name of the bill? Sorry for 675 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: the diversion, but I'm curious. Is it going to be 676 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: called the Big Beautiful Bill or is there some boring DC. 677 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: Names for it. 678 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure we're gonna come up with some ridiculous, you know, 679 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: acronym because we love acronyms up here. But right now 680 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 5: we're gonna call it what the President calls it, one 681 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 5: big beautiful And by the way, he just recently added 682 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 5: glamorous one, big beautiful, glamorous bill. But we don't I 683 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: don't know what the acronym is. 684 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: I gotcha, Okay, I mean I think I think we 685 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: just go with big beautiful bill. Everybody knows what we're 686 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 3: talking about with that one. I think, yeah, it'll drive 687 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: the It'll drive the Democrats completely insane, which makes it 688 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 3: even more fun and more. 689 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 4: Worthwhile right in and of itself. 690 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 3: But for those who because look, I get people who 691 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 3: call in or write in and they're they're upset, and 692 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: they start to say things like, we're just never actually 693 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 3: going to deal with the debt and all this talk 694 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: about dealing with the debt is is hot air. What 695 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: do you say to them? I mean, at what point 696 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 3: do we start to take the debt? Is it realistic 697 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: that within the Trump administration, at some point we can 698 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: actually start to take the thirty six trillion dollar debt 699 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 3: in the other direction? 700 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 4: Or is that just is the best. 701 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: We can hope for slowing the increase over time, maybe 702 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 3: balancing it here and there. 703 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 5: No, I think we can reverse it, but it takes 704 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 5: it takes three things to happen. For that to happen. One, 705 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 5: we got to have sound policy that the economy will 706 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 5: respond to. I mean, we got to have sound policy. 707 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 5: Economy who's going to respond to too. We've got to 708 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 5: have accurate policies that will drive innovation. And then number three, 709 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 5: the politicians us, we have to be responsible with the 710 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 5: taxpayer dollars. And if you do those, the economy and 711 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 5: the spending levels will will eventually touch each other and 712 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 5: we'll will surpass them. If the GDP can grow right 713 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 5: around three percent and we can hold spending at its 714 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: current level after we do the reconciliation, just by doing 715 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 5: that and not doing additional cuts, which we will do 716 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 5: additional cuts, but if we just do those, most economists 717 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 5: will tell you that the lines will touch in two 718 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 5: and a half or three years, depending on the investment 719 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 5: and how much we have. We see that inflation is 720 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 5: down to two point one percent already. That's huge, right. 721 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 5: When we see the taxes become permanent, and then we 722 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 5: see all R and D, which will hopefully become permanent, 723 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 5: Research and development will come permanent where they can actually 724 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 5: write that off. You're going to see that that technology 725 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,959 Speaker 5: filled increase here and you're going to see the growth begin, 726 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 5: which is exactly what you do with the business right, 727 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 5: you take out debt for potential earnings because you have 728 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 5: a business plan, you borrow on it. The bank borrows 729 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 5: the less you borrow the money because they see your 730 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 5: business plan and they know that your growth is going 731 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 5: to eventually surpass enough to be able to pay you 732 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 5: off a debt. That's what third gamble is. Well, we 733 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 5: feel like we're trying to operate like a business because 734 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 5: we have a business guy in office, not just myself, 735 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 5: but the President Trump himself, and we're taking a business 736 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 5: approach to it. We know we can't just simply cut 737 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 5: it off right now, which we are. We'd love to, 738 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 5: but we just can't find enough to cut all the 739 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 5: programs in this short period of time. 740 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 6: The more we dig into them, the. 741 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 5: More Doge continues to dive in, the more we continue 742 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 5: to dive in and see all the waste and fraud 743 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 5: that has been taking place in the government, the more 744 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: will continue to cut and and I feel this will 745 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 5: I mean it, sincerely, this is the first time that 746 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 5: I've ever been up here that I feel very very 747 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 5: confident that we will balance a budget. And the President 748 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 5: has made it his plan that that's what he wants. 749 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 5: When he's sat down and taught to us, especially those 750 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 5: that have a relationship with him. This is this is 751 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 5: part of his make America great again. That he understands 752 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 5: how to make money, but he also understands debt and 753 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 5: how it works. 754 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: Senator, before we let you go and take a hard 755 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: turn here into just curiosity ville. You were an mm 756 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 3: A fighter for how many years? 757 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 5: Well? I fought for three years. But before that we 758 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 5: were you know, we weren't considered professionals, right, uh so 759 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 5: there is additional fights too. But you know, I wasn't 760 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 5: as good as a lot of these other guys out 761 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 5: there that everybody knows. 762 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 4: Who do you think is the best of all time 763 00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: taking punch? 764 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 3: You know, because because you've been in that arena, literally 765 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 3: inside that cage, right, who do you think is the 766 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: best all time? 767 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 4: I'm just curious. 768 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 5: Boy, Well, you gotta go way back. You got to 769 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 5: talk about John Jones. John Jones is just even though 770 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 5: he's had personal issues, the guy has just been a 771 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 5: beast and people call him the goat just because he's had, 772 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 5: you know, some issues. I still think the guy was 773 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 5: just the most dangerous man that stepped in the ring. 774 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 5: I mean, the guy is just a stud but when 775 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 5: he started looking at some of these old school guys 776 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 5: Raandy Couture for instance, instance, I mean, here, this guy 777 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 5: comes in, he wins, you know, he wins two different 778 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 5: divisions as a world titles for the USC. I think 779 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 5: he ended up winning five total altogether. I'm trying to 780 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 5: pull that off. Drop my head. Rady's actuate friend of mine. 781 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 5: He's gonna be upset that I can't remember his record. 782 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 5: But the guy was just absolutely unbelievable. He came in 783 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 5: and made some fights and fought up on up weights 784 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 5: that most people didn't expect him to build to do. 785 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 5: He embarrassed Ken Shan Rock and spanked his butt. And 786 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 5: and Ken is a guy that I trained. 787 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: With some so. 788 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 5: And and he just there's just a whole host. It 789 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 5: just spends on the year that you want to get 790 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 5: to right you can. There's a whole bunch of guys 791 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 5: that's come in there. Daniel Cormy uh d C which 792 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 5: people talk about. Everybody underestimated him and he did. He 793 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 5: did just phenomenal work in there, and he didn't look 794 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 5: like he ever belonged in in the division. But you 795 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 5: got at one time you had a big rig uh 796 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 5: was his name Johnny Hendricks, who was walking through everybody right, 797 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 5: uh and and at that at that time. But now 798 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 5: could he compete with the days fighters? That's what The 799 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 5: days fighters are so much better talent than we ever 800 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 5: were back then. We're just a bunch of bankers. Now, 801 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 5: these guys they've been they grew up in the in 802 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 5: the field. 803 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: One more lightning round, quick, just quick for kind of 804 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: related best martial arts movie all time in your mind. 805 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 5: By sport. 806 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 3: That is the correct answer. All right, he got it, 807 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 3: Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. Everybody, Senator, appreciate you making the time. 808 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 4: Come back soon, all right, see you bye. 809 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.