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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick Final Hour on this Wednesday, Dan in the

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<v Speaker 1>Danstan Patrick Show, Antonio Gates, the former Charger All Pro

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<v Speaker 1>tight end Will john is coming up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer and waiting. Antonio Gates. Speaking of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fames, some more names came out. We of

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<v Speaker 1>course had Bill Cower and Jimmy Johnson. Over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Found out that Jim mccover he blocked for Walter Payton,

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<v Speaker 1>he blocked for Dan Marino in college. He's going into

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame. Harold Carmichael one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>players because I had never seen somebody that size play

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. He was listed at six to eight. There

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been too many players who have been six eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the tallest player to play in the NFL. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tall is two Tall Jones. He was six to nine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think ed two Tall Jones might have been the

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<v Speaker 1>tallest player. The Chiefs had a guy named Morris Stroud,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and I think he was a defenship player.

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<v Speaker 1>But his job would be he would stand at the

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<v Speaker 1>goal post on long field goals and then he would

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<v Speaker 1>try to block it away. And I remember when they

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<v Speaker 1>played the may have been the Raiders or the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was at the goal post, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to jump up and block that. Now are you

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to do that? Mclovin. Can you see think they

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<v Speaker 1>they outlawed that because of him. I used to have

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<v Speaker 1>a book of Strange Unusual Sports fact and he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover of him blocking a field goal. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never forget that image. But imagine if you had somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who had great hops and somebody was kicking a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>yard field goal and they were you realized that they

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<v Speaker 1>were just going to barely make it, you could go

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<v Speaker 1>up and block that field goal. But I think his

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<v Speaker 1>name was Morris Stroud. Yeah, they called the Stroud rule.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not allowed, okay. Yes. Richards Sly was seven feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>He played on the Raiders. I air quote played he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the roster in sixty seven and that he

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<v Speaker 1>did not get to play, but he was on that

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<v Speaker 1>reserve roster. The best players who are tall ed two

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<v Speaker 1>Tall Jones six foot nine, Jonathan Ogden listed sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>O six nine. I have him listened to sixty nine, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple different places off the tackle, mostly for

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. Yeah. Hall of Famer, all right, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>We also talked about Luke Keinkley, who was retiring at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of twenty eight. LSU has lost their assistant coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Brady. He's going to the Panthers as the offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we ever had a coach and offensive coordinator come

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<v Speaker 1>close to the ages here of Brady and Matt Rule?

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<v Speaker 1>How old is Matt Rule? See mid thirties? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he just turned forty. But okay, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>if you're combining to forty four. All right, so seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think. Ye Y McVeigh very yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the new coach of the Browns the Fansky. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a theory that these young coaches that are

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<v Speaker 1>really young, they grow the five day growth beard to

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<v Speaker 1>look older than they are. The salt pepper and the beard.

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<v Speaker 1>McVay went with the beard right out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>things with it to make him look older. That got

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<v Speaker 1>the guy from the Packers the floor. Yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>beard guy, because otherwise he looks twelve. I was also

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that Eric b Enemy would get interviewed for some

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<v Speaker 1>of these jobs. Did he get any interviews mclovin. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive plant. I don't know the city chiefs well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering the fact that the chiefs are still

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<v Speaker 1>alive hurt him. I mean, because you have to hire

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and get a staff in already. I mean all

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<v Speaker 1>the good assistants are going to be gone. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>Stefansky was still alive when he was interviewing. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>four four days ago. He's still alive right in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think that if Kansas City was out

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs that Eric b Enemy would have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a job. No, but I were an interview I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if like, yeah, he would have gotten more interviews and

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<v Speaker 1>if you get in the right interview. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>next year, it's got a high, right, I mean how

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<v Speaker 1>many how many points do you have to score? How

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<v Speaker 1>long has he been there? And he's the course of

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<v Speaker 1>former running back at Colorado, but I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long he's been there as the offensive coordinator. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is where they talk about the Rooney rule. The Rooney

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<v Speaker 1>rule is not just about head coaches, because you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have minorities put in positions where they can be

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<v Speaker 1>elevated to a head coach. They got to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the path, and on the path means being an offensive

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<v Speaker 1>or defensive coordinator. Yes, Fritzie, the Enemy running back coach

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<v Speaker 1>on twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen, then became the offensive cordiner. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he gets an opportunity because it certainly seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he is very good at his job. Yes. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the Andy Reid tree has done very well. Yes, Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson did well. Reich has done well. Andy Reid has

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<v Speaker 1>had a great coaching tree, Hasn't he compared to Bill Belichick? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, because Mike Rabels not on the coaching

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<v Speaker 1>tree with Bill Belichick. He's a former player, but not

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<v Speaker 1>a coach there with Bill Belichick, I believe. Yes. Point,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Peterson was a chief offensive coordator, he got hired.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Nage was an offensive cordator for the chief for

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<v Speaker 1>one season and got the Bears job. The Enemy's at two.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry and Atlanta joins us Hi, Jerry, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>have for me today? Hey? Dan, good morning, six two

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<v Speaker 1>two ten NFL Draft question for you? Do you just

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<v Speaker 1>touched on it? Joe Brady leaving an LSU to become

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina's new offensive coordinator, although Carolina has a lot of needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you trade a lot or several draft picks to

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<v Speaker 1>move up and take Joe Burrow this year? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're going to do here because if you

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<v Speaker 1>said you had Keith Lee, cam Newton and Christian McCaffrey,

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<v Speaker 1>then you feel like you got a starting point of

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<v Speaker 1>the greg Olsen's going to retire, and then you start

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<v Speaker 1>to look at some of these other players that you

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<v Speaker 1>got fourteen unrestricted free agents with Carolina, and that includes

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<v Speaker 1>Jerald McCoy, Trey Boston, m greg Olsen, he's already said

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<v Speaker 1>his goodbyes. Writing is on the wall. I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to start to look at rebuilding here, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you could go like how much can you

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<v Speaker 1>go all in to have the Bengals give you the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to draft Joe Burrow. You know you're moving on

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<v Speaker 1>from cam Newton and it feels like that expensive injured

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<v Speaker 1>coming back and what kind of quarterback? Willie be Evan

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<v Speaker 1>and North Carolina joins us hi Evan? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>have for me? Hey? Dan five nine one seventy, Hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had some thoughts to share on Aaron Rnandez.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked for the Flortigator football team back in the

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<v Speaker 1>glory days when every when Urban Tiba were all there coooting. Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>the Aaron that I saw every day for two years

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<v Speaker 1>was a happy, fun, loving, joyful guy. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>just sad to see everything that he did. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder where it went wrong, you know, was it was

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<v Speaker 1>it ct It sure seems like that could have been

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<v Speaker 1>a major part of it. In getting back up with

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<v Speaker 1>his friends in the Northeast really really brought him down.

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<v Speaker 1>And just yea, and I think and thank you Evan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think getting back in the Northeast and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>take long to get from Bristol, Connecticut, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>he grew up, and having some of his homeboys go

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<v Speaker 1>up there to Foxborough and once you get around your

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<v Speaker 1>old friends, and maybe that's who he really was. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you put on a good face when you're at Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was hiding his sexuality, you know, being married

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<v Speaker 1>and having a daughter. But he was gay and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a gangster like you. But he only

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<v Speaker 1>played three years. And I remember when he came in

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<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking Belichick has done it again. He figured

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<v Speaker 1>out how to get an advantage using his tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>to beat you down the field, and we worried that

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<v Speaker 1>Gronk was the guy I had a control and all

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing was taken off his shirt and doing

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<v Speaker 1>King stands Aaron Hernandez is not killing people. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he got a contract extension for I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you hide that all of that, and you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you can sprinkle in CTE if you want too, but

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like there was a whole lot more that

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<v Speaker 1>was already going on that I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>could blame it on CTE where all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to snap. David and California joins us. Hi, David,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me? Hey? Dan, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call, five to seven, one seventy. So I'm checking

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule right now, and there's no interleague play for

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers Astros this year, but opening day Dodge fans put

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<v Speaker 1>this on your calendar in Anaheim April third, Angels Astros,

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<v Speaker 1>So it might be a lot of Dodger fans. They're

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<v Speaker 1>expressing their opinion. Displeasure, your mother, displeasure. Yeah. Second, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>just like to bring up about the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to turn this into who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get in. But I'm Steer fan. It's not to Elsie

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<v Speaker 1>Greenwood isn't in the Hall of Fame as a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't even recognize the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got you, Donnie Show, So I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put everybody in. And as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>loved Elsie Greenwood and I think the Steelers had the

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<v Speaker 1>best defense I ever saw. If you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>number of Hall of Famers off that defense, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears have more Hall of Famers or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know of the Cowboys, but that Steeler team, Donnie Shell

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<v Speaker 1>was a backup defensive back and you had three great

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers there the end. Then you had your front four,

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<v Speaker 1>which was awesome, and then your secondary was awesome. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm noticing some Cowboy fan anger. Drew Pearson, the great

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver of the seventies, did not make the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame, and I think that will be it for

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<v Speaker 1>him as far as a chance to get in. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a three time All Pro, not Pro All Pro.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also on the All Decade Team of the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the only member of the All Decade Team of

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies of the NFL to not be in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. He won't be going, and they actually

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<v Speaker 1>had a camera on him with his family around him.

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<v Speaker 1>Knew we Scruggs, the radio hosting tweeted it out that

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Pearson had his family and friends around him with

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<v Speaker 1>a camera and when he found out he did not

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<v Speaker 1>make it, it's such a I can't imagine what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that you wait each year for that moment and

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<v Speaker 1>it could either be the best day or it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible day, and you wait for the phone call

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<v Speaker 1>when you're for the Baseball Hall of Fame, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just sit there and stare at the phone and you

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<v Speaker 1>wait and anybody who calls, or if somebody calls, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're waiting for, you know, the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Writers Association to let you know that you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame or in the NFL where you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a room and they're gonna go, let me

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<v Speaker 1>walk in and say you get to come out, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get to come out, and you get it. You

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<v Speaker 1>get in the Hall of Fame and you get in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole night. I couldn't imagine that I never waited

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<v Speaker 1>around to get into the Broadcasting Hall of Fame. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very fortunate that I get in this year, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was never going is this the year I get in?

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<v Speaker 1>But these players, they're on a time limit of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta it just it changes your life. You get

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<v Speaker 1>that stamp of immortality, you get that moment where you

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<v Speaker 1>get to relive and thank and you know, those those

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<v Speaker 1>who get that opportunity, you know, it's just a rebirth

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<v Speaker 1>for some of these guys and some of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody's a millionaire. You know, these guys get that

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<v Speaker 1>call and it's a chance to just be around those players,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they missed the most. It's I just

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<v Speaker 1>missed that atmosphere. You talk to players, and I'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Gates, what are you going to miss the most?

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<v Speaker 1>And he'll say being around the players, being in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, being part of a team. Yeah, it's toime.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't they text you a smiley face or a sad

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<v Speaker 1>face ahead of time so you're not winning for a

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<v Speaker 1>knock of the duel before the phone rings or doesn't ring.

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<v Speaker 1>And this way you kind of know, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like every time the phone's aren't Grandma's on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw where Bobby Petrino is. He's back in

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<v Speaker 1>coaching at Missouri State. That's the old Seamo Southeast Missouri State.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why people don't know. Okay, I think Gerardo Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>used to kick it down here. Okay. So he's had

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting career. Louisville, he got fired, He was at

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<v Speaker 1>Western Kentucky, he was at Arkansas, he was with the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 1>He left the Falcons to go to the Arkansas job.

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<v Speaker 1>He left after thirteen games with the Falcons. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>were they gonna pass you by? They're gonna pass you

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<v Speaker 1>up if you decided to stay for an entire season there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't didn't he leave a note or something

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<v Speaker 1>for his players? Didn't He didn't even stand stay around

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them anything. Yes, and he pulled up to

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<v Speaker 1>the press castorcycle trying not the best way to go

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<v Speaker 1>give No, it's not and uh, you know the U

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<v Speaker 1>The optics of Odell Beckham Junior handing out so called

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<v Speaker 1>fake money after the Ninstool title game. Now we have

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<v Speaker 1>a theory on this because if you're LSU, can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine their compliance officer? Imagine the compliance officers probably you know,

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<v Speaker 1>knee deep in his cups. Are you know, having a celebration,

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<v Speaker 1>just won a national title, You're in New Orleans, you're

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<v Speaker 1>off duty. Everything great? Yeah, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>phone aries, Yeah, meet, he's all over this, Odell Beckham.

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<v Speaker 1>He was handing out money. Yeah on national TV? What yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>handing out money. Okay, how do we spend this fake money? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. We'll do fake money. But he's he's shaken

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<v Speaker 1>hands with these players and handing them money, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a violation because he's a booster. He's donated money to

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<v Speaker 1>the school like Penny Hardaway did. If you're lso, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing it right in front of the cameras here,

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<v Speaker 1>do you really think that Odell Beckham is carrying around

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<v Speaker 1>a wad of fake cash? Like just in case? It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like everything he does is on the reel. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at my watch, look at my shoes, look at my hair,

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<v Speaker 1>look at me, Like he wouldn't carry a fake wad

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<v Speaker 1>of cash around? Yeah? Do you think in all seriousness

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<v Speaker 1>the compliance department looked at the rules and said, if

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<v Speaker 1>we say this is real money, and even if the

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<v Speaker 1>players gave it back the minute the camera stopped rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's some type of low level violation. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>say it's fake money, you can't be busted for taking

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<v Speaker 1>monopoly money. I really think that's what the compliance may

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<v Speaker 1>have looked at. What can we say here to say

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<v Speaker 1>it was not real money? Don't you think that's real money?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he said, well, what is he carrying a bank

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<v Speaker 1>roll of fake fifties? I can't imagine that Odell Beckham

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<v Speaker 1>would ride like that. Everything about him is I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to see what I got. He wants you to

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<v Speaker 1>see that he's got a wad of cash. He don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to go, oh, is that like? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>put the real hundred outside? And then I've got all

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<v Speaker 1>the other hundreds are fake? And where did he get

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<v Speaker 1>his fake money? But he that looks like it's real cash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you're planking the players. If you're handing them

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<v Speaker 1>fake money, that doesn't make any sense. And why would

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<v Speaker 1>you have that aheadtime? It's I know he likes to

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<v Speaker 1>pre plan of those things and look at me, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're basically dissing these players that you're pretending to give

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<v Speaker 1>them actual cash but you're not. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>people who work with LSU are watching this and smiling

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<v Speaker 1>laugh There not a good look. Not a good look

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<v Speaker 1>that that butt. Okay, if he was actually handing out

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<v Speaker 1>cash on the sidelines, yeah, or on the field after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Yeah. Do you think that the LSU people

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<v Speaker 1>that are standing there watching would be smiling laughing. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they realized in the moment what he was doing. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're probably just happy and yeah, Odell's Odell's

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<v Speaker 1>giving him some cash. I don't think in the moment

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<v Speaker 1>that you're really When I watched it, I didn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. I didn't process it going until later, I go,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's real money. Now, all of a sudden, LSU

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<v Speaker 1>has to vacate the title. Clemson demands they vacate the

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<v Speaker 1>title because those kids got paid. I remember one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars handshakes by a college basketball team when I was

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, when I was in college that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a university they had one hundred dollars handshakes. So you'd

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<v Speaker 1>go up to a booster and everybody knew this, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they would not not me. I never I had

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<v Speaker 1>to give one hundred dollars to the boosters, but they

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<v Speaker 1>would give one hundred dollars handshakes to the players. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was common practice. Everybody knew about one hundred dollars handshakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't really be that obvious like Odell Becka is, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything about him is he wants you to notice him. Ye. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in bed, sleeping in you're the compliance officer,

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that group. Are you running right into

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<v Speaker 1>the office? You have touched the shower first? What's something?

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<v Speaker 1>Knights out? What are you? What are you doing immediately?

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<v Speaker 1>When you get that call up? Working from home? What

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.959
<v Speaker 1>do you there? Probably still out, they're probably still celebrating.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the textbine in some barthomwhere you're at Bourbon

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<v Speaker 1>Street and you're gonna yeah, you better come down. And

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<v Speaker 1>we got some trouble here. The NC double A's got

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<v Speaker 1>too much to worry, you know. And unless Yahoo's Sports

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody like that comes E's sixty comes out with

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<v Speaker 1>some the NC double A's gonna go. We got other

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<v Speaker 1>things to worry about. We're not worrying about handshakes. Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>The NCA so oblivias that Odell Beckham has to hand

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<v Speaker 1>a kid one hundred dollars on National TV for them

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<v Speaker 1>to say there might be something going on here. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a look at that. The most famous guy

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 1>in the sport has to do it on national TV.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also become billionaires during the show. Apparently I came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the idea of my tequila. It's called Tequila Mockingbird.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if we're doing the literary spirits is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be our brand name, We're gonna have a full bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Huckleberry Gin was another one that I like, Uh, catch

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<v Speaker 1>her in the Rye Whiskey. Yes, by the Hunt for

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<v Speaker 1>Red Octobier, a more modern novel. I think that's how

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<v Speaker 1>about Mary Shelley's Franken Beierstein. Okay, okay, uh, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Vodka with a twist. Oliver twist with a twist

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<v Speaker 1>Treasure Long Island, that's Austin and normal Illinois fahrenheit four

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<v Speaker 1>fifty rum instead of four fifty one. Can make something

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty one proof. Oh no, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that if you did, if you would, you would get

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<v Speaker 1>drunk off the fumes. Old fashioned man in the sea,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, gone with the whiskey. Brand's taking a head,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. I don't want to load this down, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to kill him. Okay, I just think we go with

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<v Speaker 1>Huckleberry Gin and we go with toe Quill a monkeybird.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get rich enough one day that

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<v Speaker 1>I could say, you know, it doesn't buy happiness. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want. I want to be miserable both. Yeah,

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to be. I want to be able to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't It doesn't buy happiness. Wasn't theory. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a Japanese billionaire and he's handing out I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's about nine thousand dollars to hundreds and hundreds of people,

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<v Speaker 1>but he wants to prove that your money won't make

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<v Speaker 1>you happy. I need more than nine thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>see if money will or won't make me happy. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a billionaire hand out a million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>ten people. If you if you really want to prove

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<v Speaker 1>your theory that money's not going to make you happy,

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<v Speaker 1>then do that not what's your hunts? Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it does? Or I think people would love to try

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<v Speaker 1>and see if it can make you happy. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's why I like there's this thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Giving pledge, where there's all these billionaires and

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You're like, hey, we're giving away all of our money

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and it feels like good take the giving pledge. But

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.119
<v Speaker 1>it turns out they're all making more money off of

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<v Speaker 1>giving away their money. How does that work? How does

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<v Speaker 1>that work out? Where they because of the way they're

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>giving away their money. Yeah, they're they're just raking in cash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that work? We've had Warren Buffet on this

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<v Speaker 1>show probably about half a dozen times, and he seems

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<v Speaker 1>happy as hell. I doesn't. He's laughing. I'm guessing Bill

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Gates is seems like he's in good spirits. Mark Cuban's

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>always in good mood unless he's getting fined by the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't buy happiness, apparently doesn't buy sports. Teams and jets,

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<v Speaker 1>be careful what you wish for U banging the rum slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>Fritzi wants to remember that and promote we promote responsible

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<v Speaker 1>to the most responsible drink. He's telling the bang the

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<v Speaker 1>rum slowly. So you got two things in play on

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<v Speaker 1>words and you're like, hey, easy with the rum. They

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get in the car eater careful the designate a

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<v Speaker 1>driver I don't want to work on. That's the first commercial, now,

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't that Todd Rundgren, who did that? And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like anything that When I hear that song, you

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>can't be in a bad mood. If you're in a

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>bad mood, you get in a better mood when you

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>hear that song. That's just like a Blue Speed remember

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<v Speaker 1>our our favorite song with Blue Speed, Tod hooked on

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<v Speaker 1>a Feeling. I love that song. Yeah, come on, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>tap in your pod and right now twenty two after

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<v Speaker 1>the hour ninety six rod here's side run Gren. This

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<v Speaker 1>is it. If you're in the afternoon DJ. You played

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<v Speaker 1>this every day at five o'clock, Go on it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what time of yea or von drag Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the song I didn't know though. It's bizarre. Why oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's soft? Lund run Grip should have gone too. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you ruined it? I did? You did? Everybody today? Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>you're a buzz kill. I thought you'd get that A

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<v Speaker 1>little quicker about I kind of ruined the two. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on me that I didn't get dolph What do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys? Could they daunced me out and give me

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of got the great laugh? Take a break?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me take your break? What Dolphus classic I should

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed quiet one of many times throughout the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's program twenty three after the hour and Antonio Gates

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<v Speaker 1>will join us coming up Everybody's got it to do list?

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<v Speaker 1>Reliability Investment dot com. By the way, most playoff appearances

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<v Speaker 1>So most playoff berths without playing in a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. Cleveland Browns with eleven and the Jacksonville Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>with seven. On that list, we're waiting for Antonio Gates,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, here's something for it. Stat of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps perhaps in NFL history, only Jerry Rice caught more

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<v Speaker 1>teen passes in the red zone than Antonio Gates. Rice

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>with ninety four, Gage ninety two, Tony Gonzalez eighty five,

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Chris Carter eighty four, and Larry Fitzgerald, who's coming back

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>for another season with eighty two gaged by the way,

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixteen career touchdown catches overall, that's seventh

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:43.479
<v Speaker 1>most all time and first among tight ends. And yes,

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Larry Fitzgerald is coming back for another season. That'd be

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a seventeenth season. McLevin. I believe someone just said that.

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>So and as I don't know if he can catch,

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he'd have to play a two and a half more season.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>He'd have to play three seasons to catch Jerry Rice. Right,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you do seventy catches a year and he's one hundred

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and seventy two away. Oh, I think you're talking about

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the importance stat receiving yards. Oh, is that the that's

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the most imports There's nothing. Catch hasn't gone even farther down. Okay,

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a two yard guy, but now he's five thousand behind

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Rice for yards too, So five thousand, Yeah, that's one

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>where Rice really lapped the field. Well, I don't think

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>they were going to Jerry for two yard passes either

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with that West Coast offense and Jerry played such a

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>long time, but it felt like Jerry could turn something

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>small and just something larger, you know. And look at

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>these numbers. By the way, Isa think Bruce is fifth.

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean if you're talking about and Tory Holder is

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>up there too. Okay, but how important is that to

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you because you're always telling me that, you know how

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>catches are overrated, but yards per catch, well, no total

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>yards is I think when you say who's the receiver

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>leading receiver? When they talk about that, they talk about yards. Okay,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>they don't talk about catches anymore, Michael Thomas. They talked

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>about the number of catches. Yeah, but if you like

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>look at ft COM, you look at receiving leaders, they

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>put yards. That's that's the standard, Okay. Like Wes Welker

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>was never the best receiver in a lot of catches.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have a lot of yards. Yeah, he never

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>got paid like Calvin Johnson. But Michael Thomas of the

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Saints gives you catches and yards right, amazing? Yeah, I

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>mean that's why. But this isn't the greatest single season

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of receivers ever had, is it? Because I Randy Moss

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>had what twenty two touchdown receptions that you're with, Brady, Yeah,

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>it was the twenty two or twenty three. Yeah. Calvin

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Johnson had like closer to yards Okay, out of those

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.479
<v Speaker 1>three and I'm sure we're leaving out some people. Who

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>would you pick them if I said, Michael Thomas with

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what he did, Randy Moss what he did, and Calvin

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Johnson to do that with them, you know, the Lions. Wow,

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't be be a toss up between Moss and

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Calvin downs because don't have to give Calvin Johnson extra

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:08.479
<v Speaker 1>credit here. He's doing it with the Lions, and Thomas

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>did it with Drew Brees and the Saints and a

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>playoff team, and a Moss did it with an undefeated

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Patriots too. Yeah, Paul, you know, it's one of the

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>greatest receiving seasons ever in my opinion. Is twenty thirteen,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>second year in the league, Josh Gordon. He caught eighty

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>seven balls for seventeen hundred yards. Nineteen yards a catch

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>he was twenty two years old. Yeah, we had this

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>great debate today we were talking about before the show,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Mike Floyd has been beat banging the drum to takes

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>him Hill to take over the Saint Stop by the way. Yeah,

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, because would Teddy Bridgewater be the

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>next in line? And think I love hey Taysom Hills great.

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's very entertaining. I don't know if he's

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>your every down quarterback. And we followed him since he

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was at BYU and we've had him on the show.

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>But now when you watch him, I don't think there's

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a tion where you go, oh, takes some Hills in there.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>He could be a defensive back, special teams, wide receiver,

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>running back, quarterback, fullback. He's like a throwback guy. Yeah

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>point yeah, takes them hell. At BYU, he was a

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>mishmash as a passer. His stats weren't that great. Touchdowns, interceptions, percentage.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a bulldozer, he's you know, but he's be curiously

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>every down though. He's pretty fast. He's a good, great athlete. Yeah,

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed at how fast he is. He's huge, it's

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like Tebow, but but everything a little better. But he's

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>two six passes last year. But now is the time

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>because he's running, he can give you the run, pounce

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>offiction Like I mean, it's Lamar Jackson gonna change away.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody thinks about running quarterback. Yeah, it's one thing to

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>think about that, it's another thing to find the right

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>guy to do that. Patrick Mahomes led the Chiefs in rushing,

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't consider him Lamar Jackson like Kyler Murray

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>could be like Lamar Jackson. He's just not his you know,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the same size as him. What about Jellen Hurts as

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a pro? Have you dug it to that at all?

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. But it felt like, Remember he wasn't going

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to be drafted too then he started out. So remember

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>he had won the Heisman in September and then his

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody said he's going to be a first round draft pick,

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>late first round, and I went okay. So he went

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>from not being drafted to now he's going to be

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe a late first round draft pick. But then he

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>fell off a little bit. Yes he did, but I

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen him in the mocks in the first round

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>since then. But I don't know what happened to him.

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Lincoln Riley obviously can sprinkle some fairy dust

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>on him and Kyler Murray Baker Mayfield and make them better.

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's uh, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, justin Herbert's an athlete. He can give you

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of that as well. In fact, he

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>had three touchdowns in the Bull game and they were running.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Gates, the native of Detroit, we have a Jeff

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and Detroit and he said, when you came on the show, Antonio,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to say, what up dough? Is that?

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that the appropriate jargon for Detroit? What up dough? Yeah?

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, all right, the normal I'm from Detroit, uh language.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know that you're not from Detroit, okay,

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>sure well Jalen Rose always says that too, So absolutely, yeah, definitely.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm straight out of Ohio. So just letting

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you know that I've kind of plug and play on

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>some of these things I'm supposed to know. Do you

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>feel retired? Uh? Yeah, do no? After yesterday and after

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>all the lea generis kind or is from the you know,

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>fellow team, the coaches. Uh yeah, I feel like it

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was time, So like I needed um time to re evaluated,

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to wile to get to this point. Uh yeah, Normally

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're gonna worry retired, it's just like saying you

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>can't do it anymore. And I for the long as

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I had something the tank, Yeah, I

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>got to a point where you know, as I of

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>course to the season was going to and I just said, yeah,

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that time for me to just go

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>ahead and more in the next chapter of my life.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>If I told you twenty years ago you were gonna

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>go to the Hall of Fame, what would you have

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>told me? Man, I wouldn't I wouldn't have believed it,

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you. Not in the game of football,

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, so my whole life was pretty killed around

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 1>the game of basketball. So ironically watching myself and hearing

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>things and all these generals words about the game of football,

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>it still blows no way to this day. But man,

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>let me know, if I had this timeline correct. As

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a freshman, you went to Michigan State and you were

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna play for Nick Saban, but you were hoping to

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>play basketball for Tom Iszel, and then Saban says you

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>can only play football. So then you decide that you

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>still want to play basketball, you go to Eastern Michigan

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>where you play for part of the season, and then

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you transfer to Kent State. Is that right? Yes? What

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 1>was Saban like? Uh? High side? He was a genius

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>at seventeen years old. Didn't really understand why he thought

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I was the first round pick in the game of football.

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>He told you that you could be a first round pick. Yeah,

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he said I was the first round pick.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And I want to say he just came from the Browns,

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>he said. He you know, he had played coach to

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the brown I played coach to the Browns. And who

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>saying you would NFL Scotts are looking for, you know,

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the natural attributes at six four two s sixty ability

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to move. So I was, you know, it caught me

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>by blinds because I was seventeen years old and I was,

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, basketball was my life. Football something that I

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>did and I was talented at the basketball is the

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 1>majority of my work was put into basketball. So and

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 1>he told me that, I just didn't you know, I'm

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>just like, man, look, you know I'm wanted to play basketball.

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Fast forward. You know, I want to give him his credit. Uh,

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he was. He's a Miami Dolphins one year and he

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>played us in San Diego, played the Chargers, and then

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say, I had one eight catches for

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and thirty yards. And I think he

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>came up to me ames the game and said, what

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about about that choice? Now? Who was the

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>best player or basketball player you played against? Incalli? It's

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a combination of a couple of people. I think Chris

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>came in. I don't think that's the closest thing. Even

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>what Central Michigan the center Michigan played twice a year. Um,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>he's just the name that most of the time people

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>would know. Brandon Hunter, who was at Ohio was really

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>really talented at that time. Brandon Hunter probably was better. Um.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean about the bass. They had a guy named

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>thron Smith. I don't know his career panned out. Marsh

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.959
<v Speaker 1>had was at I looked at what the NBA scout

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>said about They said you were a tweener, and at

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>six four, I could see where they would say you

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>were a tweeter. If you if somebody said you were

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>going to get drafted in the first round in the NBA,

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>would you have would you have gone to the NBA

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>instead of the NFL. Oh yeah at that time, yes, okay, yeah,

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>when you when you think about all the you know,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the sacrifices I had made up until that point for

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the game of basketball. I mean that was basically my life,

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and I have put in so much more. But at

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the time, six four twinters wasn't you know, conduce it

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to what the NBA needed at the time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think now you probably can get away with it based

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<v Speaker 1>like Steph Curry has opened up doors for certain guards.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, what about the the three und three league? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been in the plans and back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Unfortunately, the game of football doesn't let you

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<v Speaker 1>basically just move on, move onto, you know, doing how

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<v Speaker 1>couple of charge your questions before I say goodbye? Is

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers coming back to the chargers? Um, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, a pretty good question. Um, really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. Are you sure you don't know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. I don't know. If I said you could

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<v Speaker 1>have Philip Rivers or Tom Brady with the chargers right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Mh wow. Uh, Antonio, Jason is gonna say, so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to tell me a so? Uh? You know

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<v Speaker 1>that's my guys will always be my guy. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>asked that question a lot over the course a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, But I will see. What I will say

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<v Speaker 1>is that, uh, if whatever happens for the organization, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know I wished him the best because that's like

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<v Speaker 1>family and me, and Philip is definitely family and me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I wish him the best. And if Tom Brady was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, generous enough to come and join the Targets,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely be one of his biggest fans and

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<v Speaker 1>his big supporters. Well, congrats on a great career and

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you joining us. Santonio, all right, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw where to a ton of ioloa. According to

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<v Speaker 1>his agent, Lee Steinberg will be throwing before the draft. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be an interesting pro day for him because

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<v Speaker 1>how much can he do with that pro day If

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be able to throw before the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and the draft is coming up in two months. McLeman A. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so three months April twenty third. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>on crutches on one leg last time we saw him

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<v Speaker 1>around New Year's Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a pro day, is he gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>the combine? Is what I'd be curious about, because that'll

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<v Speaker 1>still help the scouts when they're able to put him

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the chalkboard there and having him diagram plays.

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<v Speaker 1>They get to see his medicals and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like the kid, but the medicals, that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>really want to see that. And if I put you

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<v Speaker 1>up there and I say all right, here's the play,

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<v Speaker 1>now tell me what the play is or however they

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<v Speaker 1>and Drew Rosenhouse I was selling Wilson McKay he for

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<v Speaker 1>in a whole offseason. Yeah, and he's still he was

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<v Speaker 1>devastatingly injured right as I recall, it was terrible. We

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<v Speaker 1>were at that National title game Festible and you could

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I usually look at the reaction of teammates

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<v Speaker 1>and when you see that when they react and how

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<v Speaker 1>they act, that usually tells you the severity of an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when you knew. But Willis mcgahey went to

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo at what twenty two or twenty three in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round something like that, and he had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good career. Did he gain a thousand yards his first season?

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<v Speaker 1>I know he gained a thousand yards. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, yeah, point I remember specifically, Darren Velle,

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<v Speaker 1>who was at ESPN at the time, had a story

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<v Speaker 1>that mcgahey bought catastrophic injury insurance the day before the

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<v Speaker 1>Fiesta Bowl, had the opportunity to cash it in for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a million if he wanted to give up his

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<v Speaker 1>career right there, but he couldn't play again, and they

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<v Speaker 1>rolled the dice and played it. You got his numbers there, mclovin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he didn't play at all his first year according

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<v Speaker 1>to this, but he had four one thousand season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I almost had a fifth. So yeah, he was very productive.

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