WEBVTT - Bleeding Hearts 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.400 Kaboom. If you thought more hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.120 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.400 of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.440 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.560 rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house of 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.360 hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:29.240 with Ben Maller starts right now. Into the mail bag 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.320 we go as it is the beginning of yet another 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.280 Fifth Hour with Ben Mather. This the Sunday Podcast. We 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.800 are back at it again and a lot of wonderful 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.920 questions coming. And we thank you so much for supporting 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.879 the mail bag feature on the podcast. And I am 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.800 joined yet again by a man who came in here 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:56.320 kicking and screaming, had a temperate tantrum yet again, David Gascatta. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:09.480 I'm motivated and I'm interested on with fargic. You will see, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.560 David Guest. I I will admit I've felt lethargic of 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.319 the last seventy two hours. Things have been going on 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.840 through my mind. You want to expand on that for 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.959 the class. You want to tell the class what's going 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.840 on here? Why do some volunteer work. I don't want 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.800 to talk about that, but do something. But I'm looking 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.920 for compliments. I'm not looking for compliments, but I do 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.960 some volunteer works. That's kept me at bay for a 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.280 little bit. And then uh yeah, being pressed with with 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.039 this time of the year, you know, with college basketball, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.520 making the transition from the regular season to the conference 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.600 tournament to the n c Double A dance. Um, you know, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.440 I had some assignments, so thinking about that, and then 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.560 of course baseball season. You know, talked to Charlie on 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.560 FREDA and you're fired up about it, and I am 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.240 too with baseball season. Getting underweight. It's good as seeing, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.520 it's good to hear the crack of the bat and 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.200 um so yeah, I've been a little flat blast couple 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.800 of weeks. I've been sore. Shit, I'm not gonna lie. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.640 I I hate doing this, but I did make the 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.000 investment to buy some weights. Um, not heavyweights, but I 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.040 bought some kettlebells, about five of them, going from eight 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.440 pounds to six. And I hated doing that because the 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.760 thought is, if you buy the weights, or if you 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.000 buy a treadmill or a bike, that means you're always 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.840 at home like you're never going to the gym or 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.840 never going out to exercise, and but I had to 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.240 do it. Getting weak man getting weak, Yeah, well you're 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.160 getting old. That's what happens in old age, and so 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.600 you do it now. Usually what I've heard is the 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.560 people that buy the treadmill and stuff, they'd never use it. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.040 But I use my treadmill. I use it four or 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.160 five days a week. I'm on the treadmill that's sending 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.640 on my my schedule. So I don't want to be 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.960 that guy that buys the workout equipment on the infomercial 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.480 and then just sits there and it's a close rack. Yeah, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.280 some of mine. I don't want to ever be that guy. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.000 Some of my best lines when I used to work 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.920 at a gym when I was younger in the sales department, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.440 were specifically like that. Like if you came into the 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.640 gym and you said, well, you know, I think I'm 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.639 just gonna buy some home equipment as you walked out, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.000 and you didn't want to buy a membership, I'd be like, hey, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.360 make sure when you go and you buy your equipment, 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:20.200 go buy a rag and um and some cleaning material. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.079 And the guy would usually be like, well, why and 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.400 I'm like, well, because when your gym at home starts 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.600 collecting dust, you need something to clean it off because 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.080 you probably won't be using it like you would be here, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.519 or we hold you accountable. Yeah, that was a good one. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.040 What a dick. My favorite one was like back in 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.000 the pay phone days, there was always four excuses someone 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.040 would give you why they didn't want to join a gym. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:49.960 It was money, time, commitment, or their spouse. And so 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.280 spouse was always the fourth one. And so sometimes a 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.280 guy would be like, hey, I gotta talk to my 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.280 wife about this. This is a financial decision. And we 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.800 could do two things, and I'd pull out change and 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.520 put it on the table, or I'd say, hey, I 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.440 can leave. There's a phone right here. Because it sounds 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.280 like every time you need to make a big decision, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.480 you need to go call your wife. Oh, guys would 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:16.800 just get fucking bat It's just it was good man, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.800 you just call him out right. How many times you 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.359 get slapped? It never got slapped. The females love me. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.160 They're the men always got like defensive. I'm not fucking 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.040 like that. I just need to make a decision with 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.720 her involved. You know, back in the day, like memberships 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.400 for gyms or thirty dollars a month, and now they're 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.000 sixties seventies, sometimes a hundred dollars even still get a deal. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.680 And I don't even know now because with the pandemic 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.520 and the gyms, are they even still making him in? 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.000 My God? But uh, I guess they still had their 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.880 money coming in though the gym's right, so maybe they 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.640 actually came out ahead of it because a lot of 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.000 people didn't cancel their membership. But I would always go 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.320 to Costco. They had a deal you get like two 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.719 years membership. You had to pay it all up front, obviously, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.159 but then you didn't have to pay about it was 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.160 per month. Was cheaper than the the rate they would 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.400 give you the gym. But I'm not going back screw that. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.040 I had some weirdos. I'd go to the gym in 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.880 the morning after the show, and I had the older 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.080 crowd was there, and I knew everyone at the gym, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.839 and nobody knew who I was, and they didn't know 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.599 what I did for a living. They just thought. Many 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.720 people thought I was just getting up just to work 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.160 out in the morning. They didn't realize I'd been up 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.040 all night because everyone else was getting up at the 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.000 crack of down to go in there and work out. Um. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.120 But anyway, all right, so what we're talking about gis 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.719 guy we were bloviating here you're calling and are those 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.120 are Well, you're not exactly a robber baron. You're not 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.560 a captive industry here. You would admit that, right, I'm 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.600 an up and comer. Um, you know, I don't. I'm 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.799 not sitting in the big scene. You've you've aged out 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.680 of the prospect range. That's why to point that up. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.440 You know your prospect in baseball, which is a suspect 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.520 until proven otherwise, and then you reach a certain age downgraded. Wow. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.560 But you would agree though that when you get into 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.600 the sports industry oftentimes these are jobs for life. Yes, No, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.960 no that I've been fired many times, you know. I mean, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.480 but like you get into this endeavor thinking like, Hey, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.440 I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life. No, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.240 I mean, I've always hoped I would do this for 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.960 the rest of my life, But I've never assumed. I've 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.880 always thought at any given moment. I used to say 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.240 I would push shopping carts at Costco. I would I 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.960 would get a regular job if I nobody would hire 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.279 me in this In this business, if you need money, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.680 go out and hustle. I'm I'm I'm old. I think 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.120 you have to work hard for your Mucco dinero. I 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.880 know these days that's not the speaking of that. Did 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.480 you see that that that story on social media the 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.719 other day which I mentioned this, I was dude, I 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.760 did a hit with my guys sports with Coleman on 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.919 his show in Baltimore. He brought this up. But this 0:06:54.920 --> 0:07:01.840 this great whining and complaining about unpaid into And uh, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.040 I actually thought of you because you you often use 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.960 victim mentality. No, no, I am, I am a I'm 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.720 an unpaid employee. There's a difference. Well, you're a paid 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:18.160 employee chronic out and you're a chronic complainer. So I 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.720 didn't think of you during that time. And and it's 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.560 like it's an odd deal because I do not believe 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.880 I would have had any career in radio without my 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.800 unpaid internship for Lee Hack saw Hamilton's at the mighty 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.360 six ninety and San Diego from Baja to the Canadian Rocket. Wait, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.800 were you living in Orange County and commuting down there? Yes, 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.760 I I could not afford to live in the beautiful 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.280 San Diego. But I was down there like four or 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.360 five days a week. And you can imagine the gas 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.320 from from where I was was growing up and whatnot. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.560 And so yeah, I mean I was down there all 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.200 the time. I wasn't getting paid for it, but I 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.679 loved being at the radio station. This was a station 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.720 I listened to. These are the pool that I heard, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.920 you know. You know, I was in high school and 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.640 then I went to college briefly and then got you know, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.560 internship shortly after that, and so these are people I 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.040 were familiar with. And I would get down there early. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.400 And I remember there was a Jack in the Box 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.480 because I was big, big eating days, so there was 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.880 a Jack of a Box just down the street from 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.080 off Arrow Drift right. Um. Yeah, So I would go 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.880 to the Jack of the Box and I would get lunch, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.080 and then I would go in there hours before Jim 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.200 Rome was on doing his show, and I would hang 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.000 out in the newsroom there and just kind of soak 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.679 it all in as often as I could. And then 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.720 when Hacksaw would get done at seven o'clock I believe 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.840 it was, and then I I would just hang out 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.760 in the back with John che Lesnik and some of 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.559 the other guys that were there in the back in 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.920 the newsroom. And but I didn't get paid for it. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.920 And then eventually the hired me as an engineer as 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.480 a board op and then I did I did San 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.600 Diego State basketball a few times. I was terrible at that. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.800 But but one thing led to another. But it all 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:05.280 started with the the unpaid internship, which is in many 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.040 ways paid because of connections. It's paid with who you're 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.160 going to meet and and is the key to life 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.240 we've learned over the years is not what you know, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.520 it's who you know, and you get to know people 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.320 in that situation. This is fascinating, let's say, fascinating revelation. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:28.040 Oddly enough, you know, wait, wait aside, we've had linear 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:33.280 timelines in this industry, is that right? Yeah? When I 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.160 when I graduated from grad school, I came back to 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.640 l A. And I worked as an unpaid like postgraduate 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.679 work for the city of Torrance doing like reporting, like 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:50.120 field reporting, editing like the whole nine yards. And oddly enough, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.360 I had a classmate from San Diego State. I hit 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.920 her up on Twitter one day and I said, point Blake, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.840 because this is how desperate it was, I said. I 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.440 texted her and I said, get me a fucking job. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.120 That's how desperate I was, Like thirteen months of that 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.400 work getting paid, and she introduced me to someone at 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.480 the same station that you worked at, got me to 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.920 the program director. And four months later he gets back 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.040 to me. He says, I might have a job for you. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.480 I don't know yet, but why don't you come down 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.240 next week and we'll talk about it. Ben I, I 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.040 kid you not. I packed all of my ship, called 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.839 one of my buddies and I said, hey, I need 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.320 a crash here and he said for how long? I 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.200 said two weeks. So I get down there and the 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.320 guy hires me after we met, and he's like, I 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.800 can't give you that many hours, maybe like six, maybe twelve, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.240 but coming every day this week and we'll give you 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.839 some hours and we'll get you at to speed and 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.880 see you know how many we can get you. I 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.840 fucking moved down there, and all of a sudden, I 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.880 started cranking out hours every week, and lo and behold, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.960 I was a part of a couple of shows, but 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.839 I was capped. I was capped it because I was 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.520 part time. You can't be full time. You know, working 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.720 twenty nine hours. So I worked part time, working uh 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.560 twenty nine hours a week ten dollars an hour as 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.160 a fucking board up. I did not leave my house 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.280 and when I and the only way I could watch 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.440 sporting events was just like you, I stayed at the station, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.680 so my shift of the shows would end at five o'clock. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.960 I wouldn't go home till ten because I was watching 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.720 the Pacific time zone games. Yeah. Well, the thing I 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.200 remember too is that's a good point. But I had 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.480 in those days. You know, it's a stone age we had. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.960 The internet was not really a thing, and I think 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.520 a o L was around America Online. But I love 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.040 being at the Mighty S because they had the has 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.760 hacks all called at the High Speed Sports Wire. They 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.280 had the AP news Wire on one side of the room, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.040 and then across on the other side was the Sports Ticker, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.520 which was more for scores and updating that, and they'd 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.160 be there'd be news bulletins and so I was like, 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:56.800 I'm gonna sit here, and I was like, I was 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.920 like a news junkie back then. I was like like 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.880 I am today still, but it's much easier today to 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.160 do it. And I'd wait for these news bulletins to 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.520 come across and be oh, okay, you know, you know 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.040 a p news bulletin from the NBA. You know so 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.240 and so has been traded or whatever. It was awesome, yeh. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.120 But but I mean, I just I saw that conversation 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.440 and it was asked about that, and I just like, Okay, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.559 I mean, I guess now, and everything's supposed to be 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.080 handled to you, handed to you. But I don't know 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.600 why any business if a we'll use radio here as 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.920 an example, the unpaid intern. You don't have experience, you're 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.680 not qualified to work at the radio station. You're learning 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.679 the craft. So why if they're gonna pay someone, why 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.040 wouldn't they just pay someone who actually knows what they're doing, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.360 rather than having to pay someone and then train them. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.200 You know what I'm saying. It didn't mean from a 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.920 business standpoint, the company, then you're not gonna you're gonna 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.640 limit opportunities. And these people are so stupid they don't 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.000 realize that. They think that no, no, no, no, no, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.199 it's gonna be you're gonna be paid for this, that 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.080 and the other thing. And it's uh, you know, it's 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.680 a sign of the times, right, it's a sign of 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.880 the time. The other thing that's a little a little unnerving, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.280 I guess is that these people bit shimon about not 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.960 being paid for internships, but they don't enquire about what 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.520 starting pay is anyway, because if they inquired about that, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.320 they wouldn't do these jobs in the first place. No, no, no, no, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.280 it's all part of the night guys. Well, but then 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.720 let's see they start, and then they would be complaining, Well, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.640 you've got to raise them, you know, it's not a 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.400 livable wage. You've got to raise it up, you know, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.840 and all that stuff. By the way, speaking of that poverished, 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.440 I was in poverished working. Do you need a room? 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.320 If there's a chance you could clear out the Mallard 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.880 mansion for for me, it'd be great. Oh you're getting 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.680 you're getting kicked out of your house. Lie, you know, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.679 I'm just not getting not getting paid here with you. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.720 So I need to, you know, slum it up with Mallard. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.000 You know, maybe if you did a better job, more 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.320 people you get you make some money. How about that? 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.920 How is the how is the collection going with with 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.840 your with your father's uh, with your father's place, Because 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.959 you've you've You've You've cleaned off a lot of different 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.080 things during during the time, some good collect bles. Um 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.120 are you still jams these days? Uh? Well, most of 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:09.240 it has. Every weekend my my my pops passed away 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.320 in January. January two, it was the day after New 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.440 Year's and so ever since then, here we are in March, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.240 and I've been every weekend, literally every weekend has been 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.760 at his house, the family house, cleaning it out, going 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.480 through my parents, saved everything from my my childhood. So 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.920 and once my mom passed, my Dad's like, I don't 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.240 I don't care, do whatever you want. I'm not going 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.400 to throw that stuff away, you know. And so I 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.080 have everything. So I've gone through it. And what we've 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.680 done is we've put it in by category and then 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:45.680 eventually I'm gonna go through it. And actually I was 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.880 talking to Mike Harmon. We had him on the the podcast. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.680 I don't think you were here for that one, but 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.040 we we had him on, and uh, he's in he's 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.920 very into sports collectibles, very tied into that. And then 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.840 there's some listeners that have reached out to me that 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.680 are in that business that have said they would like 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.480 to assist in getting man I don't need this stuff. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.360 I mean, I I got a lot of a lot 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.200 of interesting like cards. But also I realized I had 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.160 picked up some knick knacks and things from my early 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.520 days in the media, uh, where you know, certain guys 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.080 would give me, Like I have a bunch of base 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.480 game used baseball bats and random crap that I picked 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.880 up that I don't even know if that's worth much, 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.520 but it's, uh, you know, stuff I've acquired. It's awesome. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.960 Over the times, it's good man, I mean, because I 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.840 would imagine part of you says, let's get rid of it, 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.920 but the other parts of nostalgic, and you know, whether 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.280 it's a lot of money or not, it's still near 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.040 and dear to the heart. Yeah. You know, what's one 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.560 of the cool things I found. I've always been the 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.000 mad hatter. Even when I had hair, I was the 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.560 mad hatter, and I I had a I found a 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:55.040 whole stash of baseball caps from back in the day. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.240 And you know, I just used to collect hats and uh, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.720 and I I found some of these things. And these 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.280 are like vintage hats that I could probably sell for 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.000 a fair amount of money if I wanted to. Like 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.800 the the style hat like I'm actually I've got one 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.120 right here that I brought back to the to the office. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.360 It's the Detroit Lions had. I'm not Allions fan. I 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.680 happen to buy Alliance hat because it was I thought 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.240 it was a good looking at hat and it's got 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.320 remember the look where they had the it's like the 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.880 early nineties that the flames kind of coming up behind 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.840 the logo. Yeah, so I have one of those, just 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.960 randomly that I just happened to find and pro line 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.120 authentic is uh what was what what it was? But anyway, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.160 just random random things. We have the mail bag, though, 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.680 guestsco we must get to the mail bag here. It 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.040 is the mail bag. These are actual questions by actual listeners, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.000 like your yourself mail bag. If you would like to 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.840 submit a question for a future edition of The Fifth 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.000 Hour podcast, you can do that on our Facebook page. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.440 Follow the show on Facebook. They're like our page, Ben 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.320 mallor show, or send me an email Real fifth Hour 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.720 at gmail dot com, Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:13.280 Brian writes it in Burlington, Ontario, Canada. Oh come, He says, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.119 I would love to hear your viewpoint on nb A 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.600 top shot. Yeah, Uh, do you know what NBA top 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.520 shot is? Have you been paying attention to this guest? Yeah, 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:31.640 So NBA top shot is. The way I've been told, 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:36.440 it's like a video trading card. Uh, and these these 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.359 little video clips. The NBA partnered with somebody, and it's 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:45.080 a digital craze. Uh, and people have been spending millions 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:50.920 of dollars on highlights. And it's been explained to me 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.920 a couple of different ways. But there's actually a company 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.560 out of Canada I think that is partnering with the 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:01.960 NBA on this um. But the way I was told, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.360 and I'm probably gonna get this completely wrong, is that, uh, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.440 they they tag these highlights like a lebron hammered dunk 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:16.800 as a moment, and uh, people spend money, they purchase 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.800 digital packs containing there's there's a couple ways, you know, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:28.360 either get random moments or specific moments, and the moments 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.480 are you know something. Some are very rare, Uh. Some 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.399 are artificially scarce based on they have they have a 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.359 scale like they call it the rarity scale and all that. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.440 So there's a couple of different tiers. Um. The common 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.879 ones are like a thousand dollars for digital COMMU people pay. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.800 They paid millions of dollars these things, but you don't. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.760 I don't think you can actually make any money on 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.280 it though. That's the thing, Like I I that part 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.800 I don't understand. They're selling it like it's a pack 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.240 of trading cards, except it's video. It's only available well 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:05.040 in on on social media, and it's not like if 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.399 Fox or ESPN played a highlight, you would get paid 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:14.760 for it. So that part of it I don't understand, right. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.720 I mean, they say purchasing is like buying anything, right, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.159 you you use your credit card, you purchased something like 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:27.880 you would go to the store. But it remains it's 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.840 I'm not explaining it the right way, guest, because I 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.919 don't understand all of it. I've been told by a 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.400 couple different people about it, but it's not for me. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.720 How about that you You you obviously don't know about it. Here, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:40.680 I don't have an interest in it. I don't know. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:45.200 I don't really either. I I don't need to get 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.840 a highlight of somebody unless I can make money. If 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.639 you told me, Okay, no, let's just pick a random 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.439 Kawhi Leonard had the most amazing spin move and he 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.840 knocked down a little bunny jumper that you know won 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.520 a game and this is the highlight of the year 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.280 in the NBA A And every time NBC, CBS, Fox 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.560 or ESPN plays it because you bought it on top shot, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.000 they gotta pay, you know, twenty cents or a buck 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.600 or whatever. I'd be Okay, I get it. I understand. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.159 I'm in on that. It makes completely sense. You know, 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.080 it makes a lot of sense here, But that's not 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.520 the way it is, um. But this is proof you 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:27.400 you can with the proper marketing, guess gun, you can 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.280 convince people that something is valuable that for most people 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.280 would be like, that's not why would anyone want that? 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.280 But yeah, I guess if you're into it, good for 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.879 you if that's your Michion gosp But I, yeah, I 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.720 have no no interest in this at all. I uh, 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.360 It's not like I'm gonna go in there and be like, oh, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.040 I'm really upset I missed out on this. Now, if 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.840 there's a way, I can make a ton of money, okay, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:55.159 But as I understand it, I don't really think and 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.600 then you just like resell these things. What's the point. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.919 I don't get it. It sounds like bitcoin of man. Yeah, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:06.680 it's it's it is similar to that. And you've got 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.400 in on bitcoin. I have not. Yeah, I haven't dipped 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.600 my toes and that I'm worried about what I got 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:16.480