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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast have been overrun by their
Speaker 1: own children. Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, coming to you
Speaker 1: from a city bailed with heroes in Monkers. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Great Rosenthal. What is up voids? Hey Dan? Hey,
Speaker 1: hope everybody enjoyed holiday weekend, Easter passover? Everybody fly. Very
Speaker 1: nice Sunday Easter in the Sessler household. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit different than the other uh wall to
Speaker 1: wall seven um exposure that I have with my family, NonStop,
Speaker 1: never ending, don't get one second to myself scenario. It
Speaker 1: was quite peaceful and enjoyable. We fast tracked. Jack Is
Speaker 1: doesn't have his own bike or he didn't, and we
Speaker 1: were gonna give give him one with the training wheels
Speaker 1: and everything for his birthday in August. But given the
Speaker 1: situation fast track that he got it from the Easter
Speaker 1: Bunny yesterday morning, he was on fire. He couldn't believe it,
Speaker 1: um because he was just talking about how he wanted
Speaker 1: a bike, and bang Easter Bunny and you know it
Speaker 1: hits it out of the park. Who's plugged in the
Speaker 1: Easter Bunny. Who's Who's a great dad? The Easter Bunny? Uh,
Speaker 1: and the mommy. Anyway, so I get to go driving around.
Speaker 1: I have a bike. I forgot about it. It was
Speaker 1: the one mark we come from such humble beginnings mark
Speaker 1: with this company that I didn't even have a car
Speaker 1: when we started at the NFL, and I used to
Speaker 1: have to uh ride my bike to get to work. Uh.
Speaker 1: That thing was in the back of the garage. Brought
Speaker 1: it out, dusted it off, got the tarantula's off. It
Speaker 1: pumped up the tires of some are and we're riding
Speaker 1: around the neighborhood and it feels good. It feels like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that bike on. My earlier memories of
Speaker 1: that of that bike would be that we'd occasionally um
Speaker 1: with the when we were on the edit desk, go
Speaker 1: down to uh the Irish Times or we'd go down
Speaker 1: to Jocks or Daily's after work, and you know, it
Speaker 1: would stretch onto seven or eight at night. And one
Speaker 1: night Dan was singing um karaoke with a big black
Speaker 1: backpack and then left into the middle of the night
Speaker 1: to drive his bike home. But you know, he had
Speaker 1: a few I would say, a few beers would go safe,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, about forty five minutes later, I
Speaker 1: got a You know, I didn't know Emily, his wife,
Speaker 1: very well at all, and she texted me very concerned
Speaker 1: about Dan's whereabouts because he hadn't arrived back home yet.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what happened in the interim there, Dan,
Speaker 1: or if if you were just lagging, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just wasn't in touch the way I
Speaker 1: needed to be on that night. And when I got
Speaker 1: back home, it was like I was sixteen again and
Speaker 1: the parents had caught me coming home from a party. Now,
Speaker 1: and I you know, that's funny. That's one thing that
Speaker 1: bonds us in our time. Mark, I have I have
Speaker 1: gotten messages from your wife as well. Where is Mark?
Speaker 1: Is he okay? I need your help, so I would
Speaker 1: I'd prefer we don't dig too deep into the topic
Speaker 1: not necessary, but it just goes to show we got
Speaker 1: each other's backs and that's a good thing. Um. All right,
Speaker 1: guys and gal, how are you Ricky doing? Wow? How
Speaker 1: are you guys? Good? You look fresh faced? You Did
Speaker 1: you get a nice relaxing weekend? I did? Yeah, felt good.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's already Monday again. Though. On Friday,
Speaker 1: we had the first round the NFL Twitter Show from
Speaker 1: the Bunker, and I thought it went really well. If
Speaker 1: and if you didn't check it out, you should because
Speaker 1: essentially is us, you know, not being rained in by
Speaker 1: any of the corporate giant We were able to talk
Speaker 1: west your you could speak on this because I know
Speaker 1: you air that frustration sometimes when we do some other
Speaker 1: stuff on network and whatnot. The Twitter show is very close, uh,
Speaker 1: almost an identical twin brother to the audio show. Yes,
Speaker 1: I felt like for the first time since we've been
Speaker 1: on like kind of a strictly run camera operation, we
Speaker 1: were allowed to approach it the same way we do
Speaker 1: the podcast, which is, you know, we like to say
Speaker 1: we've got good chemistry, but that chemistry isn't there. If
Speaker 1: everyone is on que and scripted. That has to happen,
Speaker 1: that has to flow, uh naturally organically, and and I
Speaker 1: felt like that happened on the Twitter Show. And here's
Speaker 1: the good news. The show is coming back uh every
Speaker 1: Friday through the draft, So make sure you check it
Speaker 1: out on Friday and we'll we'll be promoting that and
Speaker 1: it's a run by the NFL handles tweeting it out.
Speaker 1: So that's got that's the reach, Greg, that's the reach
Speaker 1: you're looking for on social adding the social master. It's
Speaker 1: really all I care about these days. And just on
Speaker 1: the Graham checking out, you know, and that's just I
Speaker 1: love those rap battles, hey, you know, the constant presence
Speaker 1: on Instagram and maybe maybe to the point where I'd
Speaker 1: ask you to tone it down just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm like sometimes like, hey, West off TikTok already, bro,
Speaker 1: I've never been on TikTok. It wasn't until I think
Speaker 1: a month or two ago that I heard of TikTok.
Speaker 1: Mark and I were way into vine back in the day.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we had a few a few accounts that
Speaker 1: we tracked very closely. Let's put it that way. All right,
Speaker 1: today's show, I'm excited we got Andrew Martin's coming on
Speaker 1: from the New York Post. He is the sports media
Speaker 1: reporter slash watchdog. Uh. He has been taking us every
Speaker 1: step of the way through the maschinations connected to this
Speaker 1: great drama at ESPN with Monday Night Football. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to Andrew about what's going on with that booth,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be in it, in who's not in the booth?
Speaker 1: And why aren't they looking forward to talking to Andrew.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, let us get caught up
Speaker 1: with some news. Now that I wake up, we're out
Speaker 1: of here at our house and thinking about what's happening
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen. And it's harder. It's a
Speaker 1: little harder every day because I think, what's about myself
Speaker 1: than the people I care for? And um my hair,
Speaker 1: my hair was kicking my hair cutting the start. Stop
Speaker 1: cutting my hair maybe. But anyway, speaking of social media
Speaker 1: and Instagram, Mark, you've been way plugged in on Alec
Speaker 1: Baldwin's ongoing meltdown connected to COVID nineteen. Yeah. I mean again,
Speaker 1: it's another thing that I'm invested in because I think
Speaker 1: that you Dan are interested in it too, because it
Speaker 1: was another text that I sent un replied to yesterday
Speaker 1: to our group where and I get it. It's the
Speaker 1: middle of Easter morning, and I was I found time
Speaker 1: to proves Um. Alec Baldwin's rather sort of daily um
Speaker 1: I g TV deep Dive where he seems to be
Speaker 1: claims to be in a bathroom. It looks like any
Speaker 1: bigger than any room in my house. Um. And he
Speaker 1: just goes on these dizzy and rants and like the
Speaker 1: one you heard, he had a very um nice thought
Speaker 1: about the people around him, and then he cannot help
Speaker 1: but fade into what seems like an internal thought or
Speaker 1: two about his hair. And uh, that's sort of the
Speaker 1: vibe of the overall production. I enjoy them. His his
Speaker 1: ego is immense and um, he brings a lot to
Speaker 1: the table that and like the blanket of depression, if
Speaker 1: you just want you want to just like put that
Speaker 1: over you for the rest of the day. Like, here's
Speaker 1: a Alec Baldwin's depression. He's trying to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: I've said on the show in the past that I've
Speaker 1: always viewed alcohol that is my celebrity spirit animal. And
Speaker 1: I'm rewatching Dirty Rock right now and it all checks out.
Speaker 1: I think his behavior might be similar to what mine
Speaker 1: would be if I were extremely rich and had a
Speaker 1: big mansion and nothing to do. So I don't have
Speaker 1: any of those things, but if I did, I could
Speaker 1: see my behavior being very similar to current day Baldwin.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. Let's do the news.
Speaker 1: Keep us Baldwin newsdrops coming because I feel like he
Speaker 1: speaks for all of us in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Alright, Christian McCaffrey got paid. This is um
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter of ESPN had it. It is a four
Speaker 1: year contract extension worth sixteen million a year, so four
Speaker 1: for sixty four. I don't know if that is the
Speaker 1: actual value of the deal. Probably isn't, but he gets paid.
Speaker 1: And it's very interesting with timing here, Greg, because as
Speaker 1: we all know, running backs that get paid typically haven't
Speaker 1: been working out Todd Gurley Levy on Bell, it goes on,
Speaker 1: uh And yet the Panthers decide after an offseason where
Speaker 1: we're hearing some whispers that they might even move McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: instead they lock him down. Your thoughts, and there's no
Speaker 1: point making a comment on the money because the details
Speaker 1: are now. It's a four year extension, which means he
Speaker 1: still has the year of his rookie deal still to
Speaker 1: tack onto that. But he's no average running back like
Speaker 1: great players, if you have a top five player at
Speaker 1: the position, it gives you an advantage. I don't care
Speaker 1: what position you're playing. People are gonna make all these opinions.
Speaker 1: It was sixteen million dollars a year. Let's see what
Speaker 1: the guaranteed money is. I suspect it's not like outrageous
Speaker 1: and that it's more like a to maybe a three
Speaker 1: year deal where you still have some of his rookie contract.
Speaker 1: Why not he he has a huge advantage in the
Speaker 1: passing game. The first thing I thought of was that
Speaker 1: little skit we did a couple of years ago. Can
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey run through the Uh? Was it run through
Speaker 1: tackles or run up between? Yeah? Well he's answered that one,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if that matters as much
Speaker 1: as it did ten or fifteen years ago, whether you
Speaker 1: can run between the tackles. He's the prototype for where
Speaker 1: the position is going in the future, where he's just
Speaker 1: like a rocked up slot receiver who can also play
Speaker 1: running back. And uh, that probably will go great with
Speaker 1: the new head coach, Matt Rule in his offense with
Speaker 1: Joe Brady there, So to me, he's the new face
Speaker 1: of the franchise. Luke Kikley's retired. Cam Newton is out
Speaker 1: of there and this is Christian McCaffrey's team. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting just to kind of monitor every transaction
Speaker 1: that comes out of Carolina because it's another puzzle piece.
Speaker 1: And what Matt Rule, who I think is gonna be
Speaker 1: a different thinking type of head coach, wants to do
Speaker 1: with his roster. And there were whispers um about basically
Speaker 1: anyone being available in Carolina and that you know, there
Speaker 1: was some little chatow that maybe even Christian McCaffrey could
Speaker 1: be moved. And this is a decisive um slap down
Speaker 1: to that development. And it's he's part of the East
Speaker 1: twenty three. I I get that you want you. These
Speaker 1: running back contracts are gonna be looked at sideways, but
Speaker 1: he's not twenty six or twenty seven. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the deal. Listeners may
Speaker 1: or may not be aware that Teddy Bridgewater averaged less
Speaker 1: than six air yards per attempt last season in his
Speaker 1: time with the Saints, which included a handful of starts. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it helps when you have the best receiving
Speaker 1: running back in the league. There for a guy that
Speaker 1: might I'd like to check it down a lot and
Speaker 1: keep it a little more conservative. So if you're a
Speaker 1: little nervous about Teddy and whether it's able to open
Speaker 1: it up on offense and and drive the ball and
Speaker 1: really move it off as well. If he's going to
Speaker 1: be conservative by nature, he has the best guy possible.
Speaker 1: Is a kind of safety valve uh in Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: He also might not be the quarterback and almost certainly
Speaker 1: won't be the quarterback by the time Christian McCaffrey's contract
Speaker 1: is up. I mean, it's still very much feels like
Speaker 1: okay quarterback this year though right he will be, but
Speaker 1: he might be battling, you know, to a or Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert or Love or who knows. I I think the
Speaker 1: Panthers are a reasonable uh possibility to take a quarterback early.
Speaker 1: All right. Another news, the NFL Draft. We already know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a much different affair. Originally supposed to
Speaker 1: was be going to be filled with glitz and glamor
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, all wiped away by the dreaded COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen um, so what is it? Instead? We knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a quote unquote virtual affair had Esques
Speaker 1: Headgear mid nineties, Skinner Max Fair, No, a little bit different.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be done in the homes of the various
Speaker 1: decision makers across the league. Roger Goodell is going to
Speaker 1: be stationed in the basement, and I bet it's a
Speaker 1: nice basement, by the way, It's not like your basement
Speaker 1: in his Westchester County home outside of New York City.
Speaker 1: And it's going to be an ESPN and NFL network
Speaker 1: joint affair across both networks. So it's gonna be different, Uh,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, much different. And because of the nature and
Speaker 1: the limitations ESPN and NFL are working together as supposed
Speaker 1: to having two separate broadcasts, they're gonna combine the UH telecasts.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, Mark, maybe you
Speaker 1: were a little older because you were a little older
Speaker 1: than me. But the cartoon All Stars Against Drugs, Uh,
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, they simulcast a cartoon half hour
Speaker 1: special or an hour long special in about two or so,
Speaker 1: and that it sounds like a nice show. Greg's in
Speaker 1: my age range, but I know he wasn't around in
Speaker 1: nine two. Um they combined all the top cartoon stars
Speaker 1: of the day into one show and then told everybody
Speaker 1: not to smoke um weed. Basically, you're talking about the
Speaker 1: laugh Olympics, not the left different feel like they're all
Speaker 1: stars to the rescue. I think if their message was
Speaker 1: largely ignored by most of the country. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think the really Rottens were on board with that message. Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Laft Olympics is great. I was a big fan. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're all whipping on our pop culture references right now,
Speaker 1: but let's just say that it is going to look
Speaker 1: and sound a lot different. The NFL announced those details,
Speaker 1: so get ready, people, It's just amazing it's happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: the NFL is lucky how the whole schedule played out,
Speaker 1: and people were upset that they did free agency at
Speaker 1: the time, and I know we're only a month removed,
Speaker 1: not even I think it makes sense now in retrospect,
Speaker 1: because who because no one knows when when anything's going
Speaker 1: to be close to back to normal, And now then
Speaker 1: fall draft is literally the only meaningful sporting event I
Speaker 1: guess outside of WrestleMania. If you want to count that.
Speaker 1: But that's entertainment that's gonna take place for a matter
Speaker 1: of three or four months in you know, it's given
Speaker 1: people something to look forward to. We were only ten
Speaker 1: days away and no reason you can't do. I mean,
Speaker 1: the draft essentially has been a remote operation for thirty
Speaker 1: two teams. Anyways, you go to when we used to
Speaker 1: go to Radio City Music Hall, there'll be like two
Speaker 1: jabronies from each club sitting there with a phone taking
Speaker 1: a phone call from the war room. So I it
Speaker 1: should go off without a hitch mostly. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I feel bad a little bit for some of the
Speaker 1: people that spent, like a guy like Charles Davis, who
Speaker 1: spent you know, a year studying prospects and is no
Speaker 1: longer part of the production. But that's just the cost
Speaker 1: of trying to mash two groups together. I like the
Speaker 1: idea that all these gms have one I T person
Speaker 1: in their houses, in their home, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: during the live Twitter show, we've got a dog barking
Speaker 1: coming from our producer's apartment, and now we have a
Speaker 1: live you know, an on air sneeze there. But I
Speaker 1: guess I was muted, and so I clicked it and
Speaker 1: clicked it, but I A muted myself, so you'd probably
Speaker 1: be tested. Yeah, go ahead, West finished that point. Sorry.
Speaker 1: I like the idea that all these gms have an
Speaker 1: I T person in their house, and I'm reading in
Speaker 1: Peter King column about Thomas Demitro's making sure this guy
Speaker 1: only uses the exit is in no other rooms of
Speaker 1: the house. They're treating them like it's an espionage like
Speaker 1: they they're in undercover. These I T. Guys just put
Speaker 1: them in like pasmat suits. Uh, you know they're not
Speaker 1: gonna be about to see anything. They all get head
Speaker 1: to tell yellow with the big the big headpiece and
Speaker 1: the mask of the plastic mask in the front. Just
Speaker 1: go for it, and I get blindfold. I get people
Speaker 1: are all worried about like the cameras and how the
Speaker 1: production is gonna be or whatever, But like every pick
Speaker 1: as always been made, as Mark said, by telephone. Anyways,
Speaker 1: if if they want to call, it's not like they
Speaker 1: were doing it on slack in the past. It's like
Speaker 1: Thomas to mitrofl called Bill Belichick and they'll work out
Speaker 1: of trade. Like what it really isn't that different than
Speaker 1: than it is normally. I will be tracking one thing
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Goodell, you know that you're
Speaker 1: gonna get highly uh you know, scrutinized for the backgrounds,
Speaker 1: Like we've all got these backgrounds behind us, and if
Speaker 1: you're in your Gooddell basement, what's it gonna look like?
Speaker 1: He's he gonna go out of his way to remove
Speaker 1: maybe extremely expensive basis and things that people would that
Speaker 1: would get on people's radar, like an old like rush
Speaker 1: concert poster, anything that might have people turned sideways. I
Speaker 1: just I want to know the process. I I have
Speaker 1: to say this. I mean, we've worked at NFL that
Speaker 1: for a long time and it's a bummer. From the
Speaker 1: vantage point of we have all these great people that
Speaker 1: put together the draft coverage and can execute it, from
Speaker 1: the research team to our our talent people. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be different this year. But as a purely as a fan,
Speaker 1: it will be kind of an interesting show to watch
Speaker 1: just how it unfolds and kind of the mystery of
Speaker 1: what can happen, what can go wrong? That kind of
Speaker 1: end of it is something that will make it a
Speaker 1: little bit more intriguing than other drafts. Well, and more
Speaker 1: than that, it's a show to watch, it's a live show.
Speaker 1: To watch. You know, I know, like people are like
Speaker 1: watching NBA players play horse from their basement, but there
Speaker 1: there's like a level of desperation there I'm not ready for.
Speaker 1: Like this is an actual, big time live television event
Speaker 1: that's actually gonna happen all right. In other news, uh,
Speaker 1: as happens every time every time around this year, the
Speaker 1: Competition Committee UM works together on potential rule changes. So
Speaker 1: each team has the opportunity to make proposals that they
Speaker 1: sent to the Competition Committee, and then the committee works
Speaker 1: together on whether or not to implement that rule into
Speaker 1: the book for the new season. And we can go
Speaker 1: through a few of them right now. One that's kind
Speaker 1: of a highlight for me. Here is a potential quote
Speaker 1: unquote Bill Belichick rule West. I know you love this stuff. Uh,
Speaker 1: they could look to close a loophole uh that Belichick
Speaker 1: first used against the Jets and that grizzly Monday night
Speaker 1: blowout um by New England in weeks six. I want
Speaker 1: to say where they took multiple procedure penalties in a
Speaker 1: row to just wind down clock time, uh, to to
Speaker 1: end that ugly affair and then that was a great night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about my favorite game. Another great
Speaker 1: night was the Saturday night of the wild card playoffs
Speaker 1: when Mike Brable of the Titans used that against Belichick
Speaker 1: when it really counted and he needed those seconds. Uh,
Speaker 1: and used it against Bill, his old protege. So uh,
Speaker 1: the league, that's one of the rule proposals to change
Speaker 1: that situation. So you can't run off double the time
Speaker 1: on audit penalties you're committing on purpose. That seems like
Speaker 1: a no brainer. Well it failed two rules. It failed
Speaker 1: to him in sense rule it should it just by
Speaker 1: common sense, it shouldn't be allowed in the game. And
Speaker 1: the second rule is the sport better for it or worse.
Speaker 1: The sport is worse for it, so take it out. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's no surprise that Belichick was looking for a loophole.
Speaker 1: His his one idol in the NFL is Paul Brown,
Speaker 1: who spent most of his career thinking up new ways
Speaker 1: to get around rules. Ben rules. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: history of sports in this country. Really, farewell time chewing
Speaker 1: loophole that's gone. But the probably the biggest news for
Speaker 1: me out of this was they didn't even the Competition
Speaker 1: Committee didn't even bring back the pass interference replay for
Speaker 1: a vote. So it's just gone. It was back for
Speaker 1: It was on for one year on the books. It
Speaker 1: was a trial basis, and they're not even gonna have
Speaker 1: the owners vote on it when they meet again, which
Speaker 1: is scheduled for mid to late May. It's just off
Speaker 1: the bucks. I mean, it's unofficial. I but that that
Speaker 1: has gone well. That was the one smart thing that
Speaker 1: they did when they when they instant who to the
Speaker 1: rule was, they gave themselves that out was like, it
Speaker 1: is not forever rule. It's a one year trial run.
Speaker 1: And obviously it did not work out well. So I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's really crying about that. Common sense wins again.
Speaker 1: Here's a few other ones are out there. The Eagles, Uh,
Speaker 1: they've made quite a few proposals. Here's they want to
Speaker 1: modify the blindside block rule to prevent unnecessary fouls. That
Speaker 1: that popped up a couple of times, and most notably, UH,
Speaker 1: Cody Ford of the Bills was called for an illegal
Speaker 1: blindside block on a third and nine when the Bills
Speaker 1: had the ball in Texans territory and overtime of that
Speaker 1: crazy wild card game. Uh. The fifteen yard penalty knocked
Speaker 1: the Bills at a field goal range and UH effectively
Speaker 1: that was their last best chance to win the game.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these times, same thing with the
Speaker 1: Nickel Robie Coleman UH non p I phantom p I
Speaker 1: call that led to the p I rule. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: a high visibility play in the playoffs that leads to
Speaker 1: these things. The Eagles also want to make permanent the
Speaker 1: expansion of automatic replay reviews to include scoring plays and
Speaker 1: turnovers negated by a foul, as well as any successful
Speaker 1: or unsuccessful try attempt. UH. They also want to we
Speaker 1: talked about the onside kick rule that the Eagles proposed
Speaker 1: that would allow a team who's trailing in the game
Speaker 1: an opportunity to maintain possession after scoring. For example, the
Speaker 1: team trailing could attempt a fourth and fifteen from their
Speaker 1: own twenty five yard line. UH. We saw that used
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. Any thoughts on that stuff, guys, No, No, Philly.
Speaker 1: What also wants to bring back over time is a
Speaker 1: fifteen minute affair back in The owners approved shortening it
Speaker 1: down to ten minutes, but Philly saying it was better
Speaker 1: the old way. The Dolphins also proposed an option for
Speaker 1: the defense UH for the game UH clocks to start
Speaker 1: on the referee signal to defense the clients and offensive
Speaker 1: penalty that occurs late in either half. Uh. That is
Speaker 1: the Belichick rule, right? Is that what that is? Then?
Speaker 1: Now it's it's kind of like a close cousin to
Speaker 1: it that that you're getting an advantage by having having
Speaker 1: a penalty. I don't think that Eagles overtime rule and
Speaker 1: less I'm crazy. I feel like the overtime rule is popular,
Speaker 1: um inside the league and out, and I feel like
Speaker 1: they're on an island. They're trying to go back to
Speaker 1: the old overtime at least I hope there. And finally,
Speaker 1: the Ravens and Chargers have proposed to add a quote
Speaker 1: booth umpires an eighth game official uh to the officiating
Speaker 1: crew at a senior technology advisor. Seems like always good
Speaker 1: to have a senior technology advisor in modern times to
Speaker 1: the referee to assist the officiating crew. So all those
Speaker 1: are up for a vote. Uh. The owners meetings, which
Speaker 1: were supposed to happen uh last month, are now pushed
Speaker 1: and scheduled for what next month? There's yeah, there's one
Speaker 1: scheduled for May, you know, mid May, and Marina del Rey.
Speaker 1: We will see if that happens, or if they try
Speaker 1: to do it by phone, or what they decided to
Speaker 1: do right. Uh, finally in the news, yes, whenever, whenever
Speaker 1: remember the Graveyards comes off the roster. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the with a teacher. Uh. They could say
Speaker 1: all the kids are the same, but they're not all
Speaker 1: the same. Some some you love and that you stay
Speaker 1: stick with you. And for me that was Roosevelt Knicks
Speaker 1: the fullback, the only fullback. In fact, on NFL dot
Speaker 1: COM's own website for top available free agents, it was
Speaker 1: just Roosevelt Knicks under the fullback category. So I knew
Speaker 1: it was only a matter of time before uh he
Speaker 1: went elsewhere, and he does go to the Indianapolis Cults
Speaker 1: on a one year deal. So Rosie Nick, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're it's someone who's functioning high up in the you're
Speaker 1: actually created the team. Doesn't change the way you run
Speaker 1: your offense. You're you're pulling a fullback out. If you
Speaker 1: have a fullback, it tells us something about your your playbook.
Speaker 1: But you're gont he's out. Well, as I've said that,
Speaker 1: once a gray beard, always a gray beard. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't change this roster. But I guess it's just a
Speaker 1: little a ping of oh wow, he's he's moving on
Speaker 1: in another way as well, to a real team. So
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is, and again very different
Speaker 1: this offseason. Nix is one of the only guys on
Speaker 1: this entire roster of really quality players still without a job.
Speaker 1: One of these with a job, one of these guys
Speaker 1: gonna sign. What's gonna happen? I guess we gotta wait
Speaker 1: for COVID nineteen to go away. A lot of big
Speaker 1: names still have to find. You have to find someone
Speaker 1: else to take those four imaginary fullback snaps away from
Speaker 1: your roster. Anyway, good good, good for you, Rosie Nicks,
Speaker 1: get that, get that real money. That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news, or is it? Do we have a little
Speaker 1: breaking news? Tom Placeero reports the NFL and NFL p
Speaker 1: A have reached agreement that a voluntary off season program,
Speaker 1: including some virtual training and virtual practices, is gonna start
Speaker 1: in April, a couple of weeks. But probably the key
Speaker 1: item here is that no team will be allowed to
Speaker 1: go back onto the field until all thirty two facilities
Speaker 1: are able to be opened. So it's it's a notable Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good rule, but basically, no one is allowed
Speaker 1: to practice until all thirty two states or our thirty
Speaker 1: two teams rather like back on the field. And why
Speaker 1: is that notable? Name an area of the country that
Speaker 1: has not been hit hard by COVID nineteen. If that country,
Speaker 1: the area of the country has a football team there,
Speaker 1: they can't get a jump star. While the Jets and
Speaker 1: Giants is an example, are still completely uh, you know,
Speaker 1: dealing with all the mayhem that COVID nineteen is presenting.
Speaker 1: So that makes a lot of sense. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what virtual training is that that seems, I
Speaker 1: mean classrooms stuff, Like basically they're doing the classroom stuff
Speaker 1: that they would do in the facility where they're meeting
Speaker 1: with their position coach and going over some playbook stuff.
Speaker 1: It winks the NFL um into political circles as much
Speaker 1: as it's ever been because you're gonna have certain governors,
Speaker 1: I mean, for very good reasons, simply refusing to open
Speaker 1: anything up in certain states where others are gonna push
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have there will be you know, the
Speaker 1: NFL is not gonna be able to control that at all.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a fascinating time. And I
Speaker 1: just the idea that they're going to like open things
Speaker 1: up in a couple of months to me seems does
Speaker 1: does anyone to feel that that's just wildly well, I
Speaker 1: don't think only impossible right now. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any expectation that anyone's practicing before training camp. So yes,
Speaker 1: they're they're not going to announce, and this is about
Speaker 1: the off season program, to be clear, this is only
Speaker 1: about the O T A mini camp period. Uh. And yeah,
Speaker 1: to answer your question, mark, it would be shocking if, um,
Speaker 1: to me, if if anyone is practicing any O T
Speaker 1: S or mini camps, If the NFL p A is
Speaker 1: like the rest of society, they're gonna point out after
Speaker 1: this is over, see, we can virtually do all this stuff.
Speaker 1: We don't have to be We don't have to gather
Speaker 1: each April to do this. Fair point, fair point. Same
Speaker 1: thing about going into the office. Let's just you know,
Speaker 1: ye my kids have to go back to day you know, daycare,
Speaker 1: but that part is essential. Get the kids. Yeah, back
Speaker 1: to the PoCA. The podcast, use uh you could use
Speaker 1: a little in person. Uh, we can we can stand
Speaker 1: to be together. I still adults stay out of pants,
Speaker 1: kids go back to school. Yeah, Daniel being Westchester, New
Speaker 1: York in six months a dis continued. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let us move on. All right, it's the man, really,
Speaker 1: the greatest journalist in the history of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I feel like that's the way we got
Speaker 1: to step this up because we talked about almost every
Speaker 1: article that rolls out from the New York Post sports
Speaker 1: media guy Andrew Marshan. First of all, let's start right
Speaker 1: there off the New York Post. Uh, Andrew Marshawan. Now,
Speaker 1: I I thought it was marching initially, and as a
Speaker 1: New York guy had for years thought it was marching,
Speaker 1: west pypedon and said no, he thought it would have
Speaker 1: been Marshaan. You might have heard it. Please settle it
Speaker 1: right now on the Around the NFL podcast. Well, I
Speaker 1: know this. This has been a huge debate on the podcast.
Speaker 1: My brother Mike, he's a huge fan of your podcast,
Speaker 1: so he's been giving me the updates of how to
Speaker 1: say our last name. My brothers one of the UH.
Speaker 1: He's like the George Steinbrenner fantasy football players. He will
Speaker 1: you know, he'll spend to anybody. So he's been updating me.
Speaker 1: He keeps. He listens to you guys religiously, like literally,
Speaker 1: he listens every week so he knows every joke, sandwich jokes.
Speaker 1: He he updated me. I'm ready for this podcast. It's
Speaker 1: more shand is how you say our lives and it's
Speaker 1: I guess you're over four. Uh, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I'm like, I don't know. I'm flustered right now.
Speaker 1: That was somehow we still got it wrong. You know what,
Speaker 1: it really shouldn't be like March and it really should
Speaker 1: be s h. I'll give you that. The French is
Speaker 1: more Shawn. We have French cousin so uh, if you
Speaker 1: said it like more Shawn, you'll give you that. But
Speaker 1: people are getting it wrong forever. Alright, Well we have
Speaker 1: that fair enough settled at least, so Andrew. Um, like
Speaker 1: I said, we there's one thing about and your brother
Speaker 1: knows this. Um. We are obsessed with the soap opera
Speaker 1: around Monday night football and what's going on in that booth.
Speaker 1: And you're reporting has been stellar, um for a long
Speaker 1: time now. I mean I feel like you've been ahead
Speaker 1: of the curve on this and people are kind of
Speaker 1: following your reporting to find out what's going on the latest,
Speaker 1: of course, was Drew Brees that ESPN had an eye
Speaker 1: on him for after his retirement, that he would slide in,
Speaker 1: uh to the booth. But it turns out, based on
Speaker 1: your reporting late last week, that he is actually going
Speaker 1: now to NBC after his retirement, maybe setting up with
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, getting some reps there and then maybe replacing
Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth down down the road. So, just in
Speaker 1: terms of an overview in the saga of Monday Night Football,
Speaker 1: what what has made this so interesting to you and
Speaker 1: something that is uh important to report on in this
Speaker 1: media sphere as you've gone along through the weeks and
Speaker 1: months of this. Well, first of let me just correct you. Well,
Speaker 1: none of this is important and so no, obviously you
Speaker 1: guys like it a lot. I love it as well.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, listen, when you look at Monday Night Football,
Speaker 1: it's been around for half a century and that booth
Speaker 1: is one of the historic booths in the history of sportscasting,
Speaker 1: which is a big deal. And I mean when people
Speaker 1: you know, I'm joking about it not being important, but
Speaker 1: you know, these esk M pay is nearly two billion
Speaker 1: dollars to broadcast the games each season, uh, and these
Speaker 1: announce just make millions of dollars and people have a
Speaker 1: lot of opinions on it. So it is interesting especially
Speaker 1: to an audience like yours football audience, especially for Monday Night,
Speaker 1: because even though the ESPN hasn't getting the best games, uh,
Speaker 1: that booth is the most scrutinized and largely I think
Speaker 1: because if you look at like a Sunday afternoon in
Speaker 1: your local market, a lot of times you like the
Speaker 1: local team, or you have red Zone or have a
Speaker 1: Sunday package where you can watch your team, so you're
Speaker 1: focused on that. On Monday's at the end of the
Speaker 1: fantasy weekend, you might have that still in play, but
Speaker 1: then you're really into the game and maybe you haven't
Speaker 1: been on it, but the amount and then if it's
Speaker 1: at that game, the announcer has become more to the forefront.
Speaker 1: So I think for that reason, guys like Joe Tests
Speaker 1: and Booger McFarlane, Uh, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on that booth, even the games aren't as big.
Speaker 1: So I think you look at the history and the
Speaker 1: I think they've really lacked some success in the Boogermobile.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. It was one of the
Speaker 1: little worst ideas history of ideas um and so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so that's what made it really a fascinating
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning was also a part of this that
Speaker 1: My favorite twist so far, by the way, was Romo
Speaker 1: re ops with CBS and ESPN was hot for Romo,
Speaker 1: but CBS did what they had to do to keep them.
Speaker 1: They pivot at the dream Peyton Manning al Michael's pairing. Uh,
Speaker 1: is what ESPN, according to reports, they had their eye on.
Speaker 1: They got turned down twice. They're right, Like was with
Speaker 1: the al Michael situation, was that ever, something I was
Speaker 1: close to happening where he would jump ship from Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football too and jump networks from NBC to ESPN.
Speaker 1: And this Peyton Manning thing. At what point does someone
Speaker 1: in your position, uh, Andrew, get to stop reporting about
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning being in the booth because Peyton Manning doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be in the booth. It's a couple of
Speaker 1: things there. So ESPN did think there was a path
Speaker 1: to Peyton and al as a combination. I think that
Speaker 1: two al Michael's likely wouldn't go to ESPN unless there
Speaker 1: was a marquee guy next to him, and Payton Manning
Speaker 1: is about as big as you can get, uh in
Speaker 1: terms of names and and potentially you know, developing into
Speaker 1: a big booth. Uh. So the way it could have
Speaker 1: possibly worked is that you know, Al only has two
Speaker 1: more years left on his contract. Mike Terkos already signed there.
Speaker 1: You know, Al Michael is a legend in the in
Speaker 1: the booth. He's gone. He'll be seventy seven after these
Speaker 1: two years, which includes Super Bowl two years from now. Uh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any plans to retire. So you know,
Speaker 1: could there be something worked out where he went to
Speaker 1: ESPN if they had the right analysts. I think that's
Speaker 1: possible history there, you know, of course he was at
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football forever and then as part Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: is concerned. Yeah, you're understanding right, like until proven otherwise
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do it. Uh. The money money,
Speaker 1: I don't think they offered him from what I was
Speaker 1: told money, but it was ten plus million dollars. And
Speaker 1: again Peyton Manning doesn't have to do what He's made
Speaker 1: more than a quarter billion on the field and who
Speaker 1: knows how much off of it, so he doesn't need
Speaker 1: to broadcast, and it is a time commitment for a
Speaker 1: guy like him, you know, for normal people who work
Speaker 1: four months, five months, three days a week, you know,
Speaker 1: including travel and then just doing three r again that's
Speaker 1: not a lot, but that disrupts his life. They can't
Speaker 1: really tell him who the play by play guy is,
Speaker 1: and you guys know the Mannings want everything perfect, and
Speaker 1: so uh, it's hard to believe he's gonna do it
Speaker 1: any point, but he's only gonna do it if it's
Speaker 1: the right thing, Like exactly everything is exactly lines up
Speaker 1: you reported on Breathe and I wonder like, have sp
Speaker 1: I mean, NBC or ESPN when they were involved, been
Speaker 1: given any idea that it's just going to be year
Speaker 1: until he's in the booth because Sean Payton kind of
Speaker 1: hinted maybe he's only back for one year, but the
Speaker 1: contracts for two years. And it's almost like this broadcast
Speaker 1: deal almost makes it seem like they're announcing Drew Brees
Speaker 1: retirement for Drew Brees. Yeah, most people feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one year. And I saw it, Chomp Payton said,
Speaker 1: and that's what kind of to be exacts think. But then,
Speaker 1: like you just said, he has a two year contract
Speaker 1: they do well, or he wants to play with the year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's anything, um precluding him
Speaker 1: from doing that. So I think this contract will be
Speaker 1: waiting for him whenever he retires from football. So um,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I do think Drew was smart to make
Speaker 1: the deal now because see, the thing is about Tony
Speaker 1: Roman that people maybe don't understand this hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: It's a ridiculous sum. And however you look at it,
Speaker 1: even after I explain all this, you're gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous sum. So I'm not trying to convince you
Speaker 1: a hundred eighty million dollars makes sense. But the reason
Speaker 1: it happens because everything broke right for Tony Romo, especially
Speaker 1: the fact that number one CBS is a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: the year, so it's important to have your booth correct
Speaker 1: go into that. But more importantly, number two is which
Speaker 1: I probably should have put number two number one if
Speaker 1: it is more important. But anyway, um, the huh more
Speaker 1: more is that the NFL deals are up, and so
Speaker 1: uh going into those contract negotiations, all these companies, uh,
Speaker 1: their television is built around the NFL. It's you're looking
Speaker 1: at the top fifty programs, almost every single one of
Speaker 1: them are NFL games, and so they want to have
Speaker 1: the best chance to to to uh continue with the NFL.
Speaker 1: And so that's why Romo everything went exactly right. I
Speaker 1: don't think people are gonna be making eighteen million dollars,
Speaker 1: you know, will they go up a little bit? You know,
Speaker 1: Troy makes about six and a half and seven and
Speaker 1: a half. Will he get the ten eventually, maybe, but
Speaker 1: he's not getting eighteen. I really really don't. ESPN seems
Speaker 1: to be throwing some big numbers around at unproven guys.
Speaker 1: Do you sense this is more about the fact that
Speaker 1: they are not impressed with anybody currently analyzing games on
Speaker 1: Sundays or is it more about just needing the big name. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of a misnomer because
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the role negotiations now,
Speaker 1: they were prepared to all from a hundred forty million
Speaker 1: dollars over ten years, which is a crazy amount. And
Speaker 1: obviously they got uh CBS how higher offered eighty million
Speaker 1: for Manning. I don't you know, I know there's a
Speaker 1: report saying that they're gonna from twenty million. I that's
Speaker 1: from everything I've reported upon, that's not true that they
Speaker 1: were only gonna go maybe twelve to fourteen. I say only,
Speaker 1: but that's still a lot of money. Don't get me
Speaker 1: wrong for Drew Brees. Now you understand what the Brees
Speaker 1: ESPN could have had. Drew Brees. He they his side
Speaker 1: presented ESPN with a contract offer that I believe was
Speaker 1: for ten plus million dollars and they said no because
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is unproven UM and so they were in
Speaker 1: the six and a half million dollar range. So they
Speaker 1: could have this um wrapped up. But you know, we're
Speaker 1: in the middle pandemic I just reported today. You know
Speaker 1: ESPN has some guys like Stephen A. Smith and Scott
Speaker 1: vamp help there, some of their highest earners. They've asked
Speaker 1: them to take pay cuts for the next three months,
Speaker 1: and so you add all that up, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be They're gonna try to be smart
Speaker 1: about it. And I think when you look at it, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like ESPN has gone over four But if
Speaker 1: you look at each circumstance, you can understand why they
Speaker 1: can't get each guy. The only guy you could say no,
Speaker 1: they could have had him was Drew Brees. And again
Speaker 1: to me, yeah, Drew Brees, um could be really good,
Speaker 1: but he's never done it. Uh, And you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. And I've talked to a lot of people
Speaker 1: in TV, you know, do the producers, broadcasters, and some
Speaker 1: think he'll be really good. Some aren't as shure. I
Speaker 1: do think NBC has given him a good game plan.
Speaker 1: Do not what your dame. Do the pregame show. That's
Speaker 1: a big I put on the video. You can't see
Speaker 1: it on the podcast, but um, I'm just putting it
Speaker 1: right in front of the camera right here. Um is that? Uh?
Speaker 1: You that it's it's a it's a nice ramp they've
Speaker 1: given him that he can improve and notre dame and
Speaker 1: then also do the pregame show and then possibly be
Speaker 1: ready to do Sunday night football and potentially a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I was doing a little bit of homework on you,
Speaker 1: Andrew and um, uh, not that you would remember this,
Speaker 1: but we crossed paths briefly at Ithaca College in when
Speaker 1: I was there for three months at the Park School.
Speaker 1: And um, that's journalism school if you're wondering. And my
Speaker 1: lack of ability to stay there for more than three months.
Speaker 1: Definitely shows on on this show itself. But uh, I
Speaker 1: would ask you this because like, looking at what you've
Speaker 1: been through in your own career, what Dan would love this.
Speaker 1: You've had uh minor run ins with Don Imus, who
Speaker 1: called you a moron and a mental patient. You've clashed
Speaker 1: with Mike and the Mad Dog, and in speaking of
Speaker 1: al Michael's, I read that you were in a bit
Speaker 1: of a feud with al Michael's for a bit there.
Speaker 1: You're a man after our own heart. Yeah, those are
Speaker 1: all true. Although I likes me now, I just it's
Speaker 1: kind of funny. Uh yeah, there was a long time
Speaker 1: where I really apparently now apparently like we gotta face
Speaker 1: to face, did not like me. I report a lot
Speaker 1: about when he was going when he first went to
Speaker 1: NBC contract of Monday and Football he kind of backed
Speaker 1: out of and then you want to pipe a jet Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know, should keep it so anyways, recently I
Speaker 1: just did a big article about the forty anniversary of
Speaker 1: Doublie Miracles and now it was nice enough to give
Speaker 1: me an hour and fifteen minutes of a time, And
Speaker 1: afterward he sent me an email saying he's never gotten
Speaker 1: such a great reaction to a story and his daughter
Speaker 1: was crying, and I emailed him back, become a long
Speaker 1: way uh back on the good list, and then you
Speaker 1: know we Yeah, no, I was just gonna say that
Speaker 1: me being on this podcast, and I think Mark same thing.
Speaker 1: Mike and the Mad Dog were so important growing up
Speaker 1: in the Northeast. To us, it was I felt like, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I was torn in two directions when
Speaker 1: you were reporting on Francessa's failed app and you're hitting
Speaker 1: all the beats on the reporting and you were accurate
Speaker 1: in it. And then you were clearly hurting the big
Speaker 1: man and you were you were taking him down. It
Speaker 1: was like watching Godzilla get shot down at the end
Speaker 1: of the movie. Um So I want to commend you
Speaker 1: for the reporting on Francessa despite him getting upset, but
Speaker 1: also it does hurt because was something of an idol
Speaker 1: growing up. Mixed emotions on this side of the mic. Well,
Speaker 1: you and I listened to Mike and Chris grown up too.
Speaker 1: You know, my brother, who I mentioned earlier, was a
Speaker 1: college and my dad would be working and come me
Speaker 1: and my mom and I would have dinner and I
Speaker 1: put w F A n on and we listened it
Speaker 1: to it till the whole time, and then I'd say
Speaker 1: to my mom, oh, nice conversation we had so so
Speaker 1: Mike and the Run and I had. I was a
Speaker 1: very dunge guy when that happened. I was like, and
Speaker 1: they got a basically at Sam beg me um kind
Speaker 1: of it worked out. I really wish I had a
Speaker 1: tape of that. Honestly, that would have been because I
Speaker 1: think I held my own but like I was like
Speaker 1: twenty three year old in the middle of the New
Speaker 1: York Post newsroom and They're like screaming at me, and
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I kept my composure pretty well, but
Speaker 1: like someone like one of the women moving from the
Speaker 1: entertainment section like came over, what are you doing? And
Speaker 1: then like this guy Anthony usta Bel was a big
Speaker 1: track guy. I was like he thought Mike and the
Speaker 1: Mad Dog. So it was it was fun. I think
Speaker 1: it's an honor though you know I has called me
Speaker 1: a more on a mental patient. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: that's Is there a higher honor radio than that? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Finally, before we say goodbye, uh Andrew
Speaker 1: marsh end Martian okay, um, how do you think this
Speaker 1: ends up week one. That's a week one. Let's let's
Speaker 1: all hope and pray that football and life is returning
Speaker 1: to normal by September and we're playing what is the
Speaker 1: booth for Monday night football when they have their first game,
Speaker 1: that double header, customary double header on the first Monday
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, I want to give you one
Speaker 1: booth because that's second booth. I mean, come on, forget
Speaker 1: about the second booth. Maybe to bring back Greeny and
Speaker 1: goal like which I'm sure you guys love. That was
Speaker 1: another one actually chro I loved when I was a kid. Um,
Speaker 1: But uh well, anyway, I'm not a bad guy, I
Speaker 1: don't think. But I'll go with Steve Levy, Dan Orlovsky
Speaker 1: and Lewis Riddick. I'd probably go just to man booth personally,
Speaker 1: because you keep it simple. I think you're getting a
Speaker 1: mistake of trying to break in a three man crew,
Speaker 1: especially on national TV with the trudy they have, and
Speaker 1: I think two is easier. That's what I would say.
Speaker 1: They're looking at Kurt Warner as well, Nate Burrelson. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at but I doubt you guess
Speaker 1: would let him out of his deal, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure he wants to be like an entertainment guy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he wants a job. Um, so that's
Speaker 1: where I'll go with all right, but I think the
Speaker 1: shoot one or the other. I think you go, Rick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you guys got? You guys, you know you're
Speaker 1: along with you and we just whatever you right, we believe.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of Lewis Riddeck. I also like
Speaker 1: hearing these weird like packages that they're the NBC or
Speaker 1: ESPN or maybe going for and it's like a new
Speaker 1: package in two and then and then then just get
Speaker 1: with some wild booths there, just like throw anyone out there,
Speaker 1: stephen A. Smith? Why not? Oh yeah, if it switches,
Speaker 1: we have it switches like network CBS loses it, it
Speaker 1: goes somebody's else. Are they only have one game? And
Speaker 1: that would be fun. I'd be probably give you guys
Speaker 1: some fodder for me to report on. And you guys
Speaker 1: have talked about I guess my one take then would
Speaker 1: be you as you reported that they had a chance
Speaker 1: to counter offer and get breeze in their building. How
Speaker 1: much money. I know. These are very strange times right now,
Speaker 1: but how much money the difference was compared to what
Speaker 1: ESPN is as this, you know, giant of the industry. Um,
Speaker 1: just do the deal, That's what I'm thinking. And then
Speaker 1: you have your guy and you roll the dice and
Speaker 1: maybe you get a Romo Romo s guy. But I
Speaker 1: understand the other side of two west. I think you
Speaker 1: disagree with me. That you may be throwing just a
Speaker 1: ton of money at a completely unproven guy is a
Speaker 1: recipe for disaster. Well, I was more like thrown off
Speaker 1: by Greg Saint Stephen A. Smith? Why not? How many?
Speaker 1: Why not do you want? I could give you like
Speaker 1: eight one. Don't put Stephen A. Smith in a foot
Speaker 1: all booth first of all, don't put him in any
Speaker 1: booth ever, but definitely not football sport, which he doesn't
Speaker 1: know and thinks Hunter Henry plays a totally different sport.
Speaker 1: Is out of the league or whatever. Give me a
Speaker 1: break on Stephen A. Smith, All right, Andrew, isn't that
Speaker 1: what it's all about? Entertainment At the end. You can
Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter. Get he writes for the New
Speaker 1: York Post, and he's been doing great reporting in this field,
Speaker 1: which we are fascinated by. His friends call him clicker.
Speaker 1: That's interesting and um, if you do follow him on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I just want to mention something. This coronavirus UM tragedy
Speaker 1: is touching. Everybody had hit the New York Post in
Speaker 1: a in a terrible way over the weekend with one
Speaker 1: of your great photographers, Anthony Cauzy, who passed away, uh
Speaker 1: and just tragic as a family. And I saw that
Speaker 1: you had pointed to a go fund me page to
Speaker 1: help support his family, uh, which is obviously a very
Speaker 1: good cause. Uh. Sounds like a really sad moment forevery
Speaker 1: it was one of those guys that seems like Andrew
Speaker 1: that everybody loved. Makes it already even more. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been a heartbreaking day for us. Uh, you know, started
Speaker 1: late last night or early last night. And yeah, Anthony,
Speaker 1: you know what he's if you have that friend who
Speaker 1: kind of always makes you smile, always trying to um
Speaker 1: do something good. He's a photographer. And uh, not only
Speaker 1: with like celebrities like Derek Jeter, which he had great
Speaker 1: relationships with. But you know, we're hearing stories about so
Speaker 1: many people that you know, there's one story about this
Speaker 1: these uh, this couple that got engaged in Central Park
Speaker 1: and he was just walking in there. Sure of them
Speaker 1: took their naves down. I'm not special and he's much
Speaker 1: too young, forty eight with two young children, so it's
Speaker 1: very sad um and you know, like everyone's telling I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys have been preaching this, stay inside because
Speaker 1: you know there are a lot of numbers out there
Speaker 1: and when it doesn't hit home, but this one, obviously
Speaker 1: for all of us, really hits home. Even though New
Speaker 1: York and Tristarium and really hit hard. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: this one for us as a piercing So I appreciate
Speaker 1: you doing on anybody out there and can contribute to
Speaker 1: appreciate it by everybody. Yeah, head over, we'll we'll retweet
Speaker 1: it from the around the NFL handle and you could
Speaker 1: check out Andrew if you want to spot there they
Speaker 1: go fund me link. Thank you for coming on, Andrew,
Speaker 1: is great, have you on, and maybe we could do
Speaker 1: this again as as the world turns now that soap
Speaker 1: operas are drying up, this is like the new one
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed the most. This is my all my children,
Speaker 1: and you are like the you're the script doctor behind
Speaker 1: the scenes in a lot of ways, not that you're
Speaker 1: making up the stories. You're just digging them up. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Thank you very much. I appreciate Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: make up a couple to make more interesting. Alright, cool,
Speaker 1: say how do your brother for us? Andrew marchin thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you? All right, there he goes Andrew marchand I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say his name quickly because I still don't
Speaker 1: really know it for sure. Marchand there you go. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that was interesting and enlightening. I'm excited to see what
Speaker 1: what happens next in the booth. Uh. We have more
Speaker 1: guests coming up, by the way, later this week. I'm
Speaker 1: very excited about this. Kyle Brandt is making his Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast debut, the great Good Morning Football host.
Speaker 1: I think we all have a lot of respect for Kyle.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna come on the show and that will
Speaker 1: be fun, and we might even have another guest. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big week, another big week for the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. In the bunkers, you guys excited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like we should have maybe had Kyle Brandt
Speaker 1: on seven or eight times by now. So, Uh, the
Speaker 1: box needs to be thoroughly checked here. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. He is. He's a very busy man, but
Speaker 1: he's made time for us. His day usually starts before
Speaker 1: the COVID sheltering at what two in the morning our
Speaker 1: time or midnight our time? Yeah, well they've been, uh
Speaker 1: they've been. They're still shut down. Good Morning Football right now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that he's one of those that doing those
Speaker 1: morning shows is absurd the hours. Is that what we want?
Speaker 1: We want a morning show one day? No, we should
Speaker 1: do a late night Joe right. What would our choice
Speaker 1: be but Shift seven at this point, I mean, we
Speaker 1: were doing three episodes a couple of months ago. We're
Speaker 1: now doing five or six. Let's just go when you
Speaker 1: you know, if you have to step out and tend
Speaker 1: to a child for five minutes, that's fine. Just the
Speaker 1: screen stays on. I don't think you should say that
Speaker 1: out loud. You just put the idea into the air,
Speaker 1: all right? Does Dan had to signing off for the
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the mail Man, the old Boss Rick Hollywood
Speaker 1: in her apartment on who Who's that