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Speaker 1: Everything else is AI right now, This is not AI,

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Speaker 1: We'll roll with that in a second. But what do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's play our best football here in December. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know this one's interesting. The Chiefs have allowed the

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Speaker 2: The opportunity is there, it's a matter of seizing it.

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Speaker 1: If you can find it, it's archived, check the Odyssey website.

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Speaker 1: But last night in the Chiefs Kingdom Show, a really

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Speaker 1: good discussion with coach Read as we were taping this

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Speaker 2: Got seven for you today? Seven so heard from the

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Speaker 2: Yeah he called it last time. Let's just have that again.

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Speaker 2: Robert is checking in. They drove from Kentucky for the

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Speaker 1: Let's just talk though about attacking December, because the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg's a genius. How old were you when you

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Speaker 1: nick A Bolton. We've talked about December football here, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can talk about all the time. Nobody remembers

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Speaker 1: That one for a while. That being said. In December,

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Speaker 1: the snaps in this four game winning streak. Rookieat of USC,

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Speaker 1: what are you seeing in him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's actually a bigger guy than what you kind

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Speaker 3: of think with his speed and is a jilty and

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Speaker 3: his vision. I was able to make one cut, get

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Speaker 3: to the sideline, use his speed, get to touch the

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Speaker 3: edges on the outside, make Dv's tackle. So yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 3: it definitely doesn't play like a rookie. He's doing a

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Speaker 3: great job of using what he does well and they

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Speaker 3: do a great job giving him runs a compliment of

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Speaker 3: skill set. So it's going to need all the guys

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Speaker 3: to kind of reset the line of skimmage and start

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Speaker 3: with the D line and guys getting off of boxing

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Speaker 3: and perimeter. They do a good job of using that

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Speaker 3: bigger body oide receivers to block.

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Speaker 2: Third down was one of the areas that kind of

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Speaker 2: got us defensively last week. Is that kind of an

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Speaker 2: emphasis this week? Trying to be better on third down

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Speaker 2: against Houston.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. I think there were seven for nine I

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Speaker 3: think on third down. So we got to find a

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Speaker 3: way to get that number down around thirty percent or less.

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Speaker 3: So we've got to find ways of rush working with

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Speaker 3: coverage and find a way to get some some negative

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Speaker 3: plays on first and second down and give us some

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Speaker 3: longer third downs and let our rush got out to

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Speaker 3: the passer.

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Speaker 1: He will be ready to attack December. He always is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so earn it. Attack December and earn it. But this

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Speaker 1: Houston defense, in watching the game, the Colts had to

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Speaker 1: earn every single play you get this team is. We

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Speaker 1: know about the pass rushers, and honestly, they embarrassed Deon

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Speaker 1: Dawkins and Spencer Brown, two guys that we respect a

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Speaker 1: lot of the Buffalo Bills. They just decimated those guys.

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Speaker 1: These guys, when you look at Will and Anderson Junior

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Speaker 1: and Danielle Hunter, they're among the leaders in the league

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Speaker 1: in pressures. Anderson has got two fumble recoveries. These guys

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Speaker 1: have teamed up for twenty two sacks. But they're amazing.

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Speaker 1: There's way more to this team. Good linebackers and I

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Speaker 1: think it's the best secondary one through five in this league.

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Speaker 2: So Hunter and Anderson, like you said, have twenty two

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Speaker 2: sacks between them. Houston's the only team in the league

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Speaker 2: to feature multiple players with double digit sacks. Anderson's second

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Speaker 2: in the NFL in total pressures with sixty nine. Hunter

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Speaker 2: isn't far behind with fifty eight. And Houston's also the

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Speaker 2: only team in the NFL to feature multiple players in

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Speaker 2: the top ten in pressures this year. You mentioned the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo game. Eight sacks in that game. Not a lot

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Speaker 2: of sacks against Indianapolis, but they still created a lot

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Speaker 2: of pressure on Daniel Jones. He was under pressure on

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Speaker 2: sixty percent of his dropbacks. That clearly affected their passing game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, their pass rush is maybe the best in football,

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Speaker 2: really really good. It's similar to Denver's in terms of

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Speaker 2: the production, but Denver kind of does it from everywhere where.

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Speaker 2: Houston just has like this two man wrecking crew, like

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Speaker 2: maybe the two best pass preshers in the NFL. They're

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Speaker 2: just both on this team. Led to a lot of

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Speaker 2: good numbers for these guys. Number one scoring and total

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Speaker 2: defense in the NFL, their top five in the NFL

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Speaker 2: and passing yards allowed and rushing yards allowed. They've allowed

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Speaker 2: twenty or more points just three times all season, easily

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Speaker 2: the most of any team, or easily the fewest of

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Speaker 2: any team in the NFL. I mean, think about that.

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Speaker 2: They're forcing three and outs at the highest rate in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, allowed the fewest first downs in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: number two, third down defense, fifth, and takeaways. Could go

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Speaker 2: on and on. It all begins with that pass rush.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, their secondary is really impressive as well. They

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Speaker 2: have four players in this secondary with multiple interceptions, tied

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Speaker 2: for the most of any team in the league. We

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Speaker 2: know about Derek Stingley, but Callan Bullock is really good too.

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Speaker 2: Lassider is a good player. Just playmakers everywhere won't be easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even Reid, their fifth guy, is a stud. But Bullock.

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Speaker 1: You look, he's tied for fifth with his four interceptions

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Speaker 1: in the league. But last year he was number one

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Speaker 1: in the league among any dbs on the percentage catch

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Speaker 1: rate against him was lower, just under forty percent. This

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Speaker 1: year it's even better. He's given up a thirty four

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Speaker 1: percent passer rating. So the fact that they will play

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Speaker 1: zone man, they'll stick right on you. They're just aggressive.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs are going to have to be at the

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Speaker 1: top of their game and earn it. It's got to

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Speaker 1: be every single play in this game, Matt, every single snap.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs have have got to feel like, got to

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Speaker 1: earn it against this defense because hard to score on.

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Speaker 1: The one stat that the defense doesn't have is red

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Speaker 1: zone defense. But it's tricky. Yeah, it's tricky because you

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Speaker 1: don't even get down there. New England's the only team

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Speaker 1: that has allowed fewer red zone penetrations than these guys.

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Speaker 1: So if you get there, the numbers aren't great, but

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Speaker 1: nobody's getting there. They can't get to the red zone

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Speaker 1: on this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I was doing the same thing where

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Speaker 2: you know, whenever you're trying to kind of figure out

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Speaker 2: a defense, you look at third down, you look at

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Speaker 2: red zone, you look at these different areas, and I

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Speaker 2: saw the red zone. They're eighteenth and red zone defense,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, that's interesting. They're allowing touchdowns at

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Speaker 2: almost a sixty percent clip. Well, I wonder how many

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Speaker 2: red zone drives they've allowed, only twenty nine all season.

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Speaker 2: I will say though, that if you look at a

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Speaker 2: couple of games this year where they have struggled in

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Speaker 2: terms of the scoreboard, I think about the game against

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Speaker 2: Seattle earlier this year in the game against the Jags

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Speaker 2: earlier this season. Two of the few games all season

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Speaker 2: they've allowed twenty or more points to an opponent. It's

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Speaker 2: often because of short fields. So we'll talk about the

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Speaker 2: Houston offense here in a minute, but Houston has turned

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Speaker 2: the ball over at times this year. They've allowed some

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Speaker 2: big plays on special teams. Like if you have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to score on a short field, that's how you

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Speaker 2: beat this Houston team, and that's how they've lost some

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Speaker 2: games this year as good as their defense is. So

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the mandate for the Chiefs here in

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Speaker 2: this one. And again, one positive coming out of the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys game was the red zone offense. So we were

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Speaker 2: two for ten in terms of scoring touchdowns in the

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Speaker 2: red zone. Are two games prior to the game last

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Speaker 2: week against the Cowboys three for three and really the

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Speaker 2: first touchdown was just outside the red zone, so almost

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Speaker 2: four for four in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 2: Got to do that against these guys because if you

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Speaker 2: have a chance to have a short field, you have

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Speaker 2: a big punt return that gets you down to like

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Speaker 2: the Houston forty five, or you have an interception on

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Speaker 2: their side of the field. You got to finish it

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Speaker 2: with a touchdown because your chance is to score on

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Speaker 2: these guys when it's like actually a full drive down

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Speaker 2: the field, it's difficult. So yeah, short fields are kind

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Speaker 2: of the key for me in this game. Try to

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Speaker 2: create some of those and make them pay for it.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said special teams is key here to

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Speaker 1: try to flip the field or shift the field against

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Speaker 1: these guys, because it's hard to make a living driving

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Speaker 1: the ball seventy five and eighty yards against this defense.

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Speaker 1: One guy who is making living, though, and we put

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Speaker 1: him on this on the case every week. I don't

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Speaker 1: even think he took Thanksgiving off because he was just

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Speaker 1: watching ball and being under the radar, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: on his spy movements. And that is Ari wolf Let's

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Speaker 1: check in with our spy versus spy Ari.

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Speaker 4: Hello to everyone, and welcome to this edition of Out

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Speaker 4: West with Ry Wolfe. Excited as always to be joined

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Speaker 4: by Matt McMullen. It is week fourteen, if you can believe,

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Speaker 4: the season is flying by. There's lots of discuss on

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Speaker 4: this portion of the podcast. We focus on the APC West.

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Speaker 4: Let's start at the top. The Denver. Broncos find a

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Speaker 4: way to win yet again. It is now nine straight wins.

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Speaker 4: They win it. It was a great football game on

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Speaker 4: Sunday and night, a game that you peg is seeing,

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Speaker 4: maybe because it's Sunday night. Washington will play inspired football.

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Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota look like a legit NFL starting quarterback. They

589
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Speaker 4: were right there. Nicks was pretty good. Both played well

590
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Speaker 4: this I was impressed by. He made completions to ten

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Speaker 4: different receivers in the game. They've now won eight one

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Speaker 4: score games. It comes down to Washington gets the touchdown

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Speaker 4: and overtime they elect to go for two. They have

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Speaker 4: the perfect play call, Nick Benito, that big outstretch right

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Speaker 4: Paul of his knocks it down. Had Mariota put a

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Speaker 4: little more loft on it, we might be talking about

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Speaker 4: the Broncos coming off a loss, but there they stand

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Speaker 4: in a battle a half game behind the Patriots for

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Speaker 4: the number one seed. I feel like we've spent the

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Speaker 4: whole podcast all you're talking about. Are the Broncos for real?

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Speaker 4: Are they not for real? What's the deal? They keep

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Speaker 4: finding ways to win? What do you think, Matt? At

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Speaker 4: this point, we got to give them credit where credit's due.

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Speaker 4: I mean, ten wins and two losses is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: I think they've won four straight games by a field goal.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this right now. Yeah, so against the

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Speaker 2: Texans they won eighteen to fifteen, and then against the

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Speaker 2: Raiders they won ten to seven. Then against US of

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Speaker 2: course twenty two to nineteen, and then against the Commanders

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Speaker 2: twenty seven twenty six. So four straight games by a

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Speaker 2: field goal or less. You know, I've been saying all

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Speaker 2: year that the Broncos shouldn't apologize for winning. That's a

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Speaker 2: pretty slim margin right there. That's also where football can

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Speaker 2: just break your heart if you're on the Commanders, because

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Speaker 2: you do so many things, well, so many things, right,

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Speaker 2: you find a way to force overtime against a really

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Speaker 2: good defense when you have to have it. You go

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Speaker 2: down there on fourth and goal and throw a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: and then, yeah, you had the perfect play call drawn up,

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Speaker 2: like it would have worked on the two point conversion

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Speaker 2: if Mariota maybe moves to his left a little bit

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Speaker 2: or just lost it a little bit. More credit to

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Speaker 2: the Broncos. They found a way. But yeah, I really

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Speaker 2: thought the Commanders were going to do it. I went

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Speaker 2: to sleep upset. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I just it just seems in Denver,

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Speaker 4: it's just their year. Just you know, just things seem

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Speaker 4: to work out in their favorite It's been pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go next. We had the Los Angeles

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Speaker 4: Chargers taking on the Las Vegas Raiders. This game basically

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Speaker 4: to me, turned out exactly how I expected it to be,

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Speaker 4: with the exception. The lead story is justin Herbert breaks

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Speaker 4: a small bone in his non throwing hand. He had

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Speaker 4: surgery yesterday. Today is Tuesday. He's considered day to day.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know what that means. I expect him

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Speaker 4: to come out Monday night with like a heavy pad

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Speaker 4: over his hand, kind of like what he did in

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Speaker 4: the game the other day. The Chargers, to me, have

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Speaker 4: proven almost nothing at eight and four. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: go into detail on that in the Wildcard. Given the

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Speaker 4: quality of their schedule, they can't do anything about that.

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Speaker 4: But they're not inspiring me right now and how they're playing. Yes,

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Speaker 4: they're eight and four, but what was your takeaway from

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Speaker 4: their performance against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Well, for what it's worth, they did bounce back from that,

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Speaker 2: like really bad showing against the Jags. A couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: It was a close game for a while, though I

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Speaker 2: don't feel like the scoreboard here really tells full story,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, tied up at seven points a piece

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Speaker 2: going into halftime. Then the Chargers just kind of ran

651
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Speaker 2: away with it. I think we saw a lot of

652
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: the things that have caused the Raiders to struggle this

653
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: year in the second half. I was glad to see

654
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: they got Brock Bauers more involved. He finishes with four

655
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: catches for sixty three yards two touchdowns, including like one

656
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: of the best touchdowns I've seen all year. So, I mean,

657
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: good things happen when that guy gets involved with the offense,

658
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: but just not enough. I mean, the Raiders just can't

659
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: protect their offensive line really struggled once again. Gino sacked

660
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: on a bunch of big third downs and they've turned

661
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: the ball over. Credit to the Chargers defense. I think

662
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: they showed up after again kind of a lackluster showing

663
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: against the Jags a few weeks ago. But the Herbert

664
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Speaker 2: things interesting. I do wonder, with it being a non

665
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: throwing hand, how much it really matters. I mean, I

666
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: guess when you're receiving the ball it matters in that way,

667
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: and if you get hit. Can opponents kind of take

668
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: advantage of that. I mean they're playing the Eagles on

669
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Monday Night football, pretty good pass rush, and then US

670
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. Yeah, does that change anything?

671
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see. I'd be surprised if he didn't play,

672
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: all right.

673
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: I think he at least tries to play, and then

674
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: if it realizes it's not going well, then you think

675
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: about making a change. But I can't see any scenario

676
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: where he doesn't at least try it out right. I

677
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: mean every game is a must win in the AFC,

678
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: all right. I know you guys talk about the Chiefs.

679
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: I just want to make one comment about the Thanksgiving

680
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: Day game. You know, Patrick Mahomes was as good as

681
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: you could ask for. I mean, he was money, four

682
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: touchdown passes, no interceptions. I'm a little conflicted. Rah Rice

683
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 4: at times has been literally a Pro Bowl receiver, but

684
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: he's had some critical drops and then drop late in

685
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: the game against Dallas. I felt like, really stung. And

686
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: I don't want that to take away from the block

687
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: of work that Rash has put together because he is

688
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: a sure handed guy. But you know, in a league

689
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: with such tiny margins, your quarterback plays that well. He

690
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: puts it on his number one receiver late in a game,

691
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: you feel like, you know he's gonna make that catch

692
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: ninety nine out of one hundred, but he didn't catch

693
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: it that time where the Chiefs really needed it. So

694
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: that was just like a little takeaway. I just feel

695
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: like Mahomes is played at a really high level, which

696
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: I think is encouraging going down the stretch. I think

697
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: Rice will learn from it. But you know, a really

698
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: another a tough loss, and I'm sure that was a

699
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: challenging trip home from Dallas.

700
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a bummer because again it feels like a

701
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: game the Chiefs could have and maybe should have won.

702
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: And really, despite all the circumstances, taking the lead in

703
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and I'll give Rashik credit with that

704
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: touchdown catch, which really impressive touchdown catch on fourth down,

705
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was you take the lead in

706
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: that moment. You now have a chance, despite all the

707
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: things that happened earlier in the game, to get a

708
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: defensive stop and to hopefully add to your lead and

709
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: get out of there with a win. And you know

710
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: the story of the game was third down defensively and

711
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: penalty is an offense, and the penalties really kind of

712
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: showed themselves during the four middle possessions for the Chiefs

713
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: between the second and third quarter. I'm trying to remember

714
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: that Rashi drop. Was that as part of that four

715
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: possession stretch. I'm trying to find it here.

716
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in the fourth quarter. It was right

717
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: in your midfield. I remember he was like right by

718
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: the logo and it literally it was just I think

719
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: it was a third down play and went right through

720
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: his hands and it made it so the Chiefs had

721
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: to punt. I think that's about as specific ause I

722
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: can get on. But you know, it was a big

723
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: moment in the game, and it was just unlike him.

724
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: It was one of those moments where like you're like,

725
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: you know, you kind of gasp, You're like, I can't

726
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: believe he dropped the ball in that moment. So that

727
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: was a bit of a killer. But they're right there

728
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: and with five games to play in a wild wild

729
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: AFC Wildcard race. We'll break that down more in a bit.

730
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm so very bullish on the Chiefs. I realized that

731
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 4: you have to do a little mental gymnastics to remain bullish,

732
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: but that's part of being a fan, right, That's part

733
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: of caring about an organization is that kind of got

734
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: to convince yourself. But until you're mathematically eliminated, you got

735
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: a shot, right, and that's that's really all you can ask.

736
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wanted to add all right, real quickly

737
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: I found it. It was in the fourth quarter with

738
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: nine minutes left when that drop happened. It's fair to

739
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: criticize the drop. He should have had it, but that

740
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: drive began with a penalty. It was the very first

741
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: play of the drive. There was a holding call and

742
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: that created a first and twenty situation that the Chiefs

743
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: almost got out of. It was third and eight when

744
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: Rashid had that drop. Well, if you don't have the penalty,

745
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: maybe you don't have to make that play, right. So

746
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: I think what it boils down to is the Chiefs

747
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: had opportunities in this game. They had those four drives

748
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: in the middle of the game where they drove into

749
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: Dallas territory on each four different times, didn't get any points,

750
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: largely because of penalties. And this drive that you're talking

751
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: about with Rashi, where the Cowboys had just taken a

752
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 2: slim lead, Well, you have a chance to respond and answer. Instead,

753
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: you have a penalty, you end up punting, Dallas goes down,

754
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: makes it a two score game. And even though the

755
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs still made it interesting at the very end, you

756
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: could never get those points back in this game against

757
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: the Texans, and Mitch and I had been talking about,

758
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: you know how good this Texans defense is and everything.

759
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's about the Chiefs.

760
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: It's about the things that you can control, and one

761
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: of the things that you can control is penalties, and

762
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: penalties have been kind of one of those common denominators

763
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs this year and losses. I look at

764
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: the Jags game as well, where you just consistently shoot

765
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: yourself in the foot against a football team that's playing well.

766
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I mean, the Chiefs have everything

767
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: still in front of them. You go out there and

768
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: beat the Texans. Things are great, and we're going to

769
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: talk about the different scenarios and what's out there for

770
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Like I still fully believe in the Chiefs,

771
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: but you have to go out there. It's hard enough

772
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: to play against a good team. Don't beat yourself, right,

773
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: And I think the Cowboys kind are the Chiefs rather

774
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: kind of beat themselves against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. You

775
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: can't do that here this Sunday.

776
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely all right. I thought the best game from last

777
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: week was a big upset the Panthers, big underdogs at

778
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: home against a Rams team that had won six straight.

779
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: Everyone was talking about Matthew Stafford as the guy to

780
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: win the MVP. Just super impressed with the Panthers. They

781
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: showed so much fight. I loved that they really wanted

782
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: to keep the ball on the ground. But then when

783
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: they asked Bryce Young to throw the ball fifteen to

784
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: twenty two hundred and six yards three touch down passes.

785
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 4: He had two fourth down touchdown passes in the game.

786
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: He was super clutch. He now has eleven game winning

787
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: drives where his team's either tied or behind in the

788
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. I would have taken the under on that number.

789
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: I was surprised that it was eleven. Kind of a

790
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: fun story the Panthers, and I don't think this changes

791
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: the trajectory for the Rams really at all. Sometimes those games,

792
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: so you're traveling all the way across the country in

793
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: an early window, can be really challenging. But the Panthers

794
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: showed me something I thought it was interesting to see

795
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: that Bryce Young out played Matthew Stafford. I mean Stafford

796
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: two interceptions and a lost fumble at the end of

797
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: the game when they were in field goal position, so

798
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: it was not his best game. I think that's why

799
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 4: Drake May as we record this now, is the odds

800
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: on favorite to win the MVP. But one final other note,

801
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: I wanted to Poka Nakua had one of the best

802
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: one handed catches that I've ever seen in the game.

803
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: I still don't really understand how he was able to

804
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: like clutch it and then almost like it was like

805
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: he was dunking a basketball, like turned his wrist so

806
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: that he could hold onto it. But then Treylon Burks

807
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: later on that day had a better one handed catch,

808
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: So this was amazing one handed catches. What was your

809
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: takeaway from the Panthers in the Rams.

810
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Well, it just shows the parody in the NFL. I mean,

811
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: I think we all as a football watching society decided, Okay,

812
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: the Rams are the best team in football, and they

813
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: immediately lose to the Panthers, right, I mean, that's just

814
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: how it goes. That's why the NFL is the best,

815
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: because everybody has a chance every single day. I think

816
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: it was impressive because Carolina people started kind of getting

817
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: excited about them, and they played that primetime game against

818
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and frankly didn't look great. They

819
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: had chances in that game, lots of opportunities early with

820
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: Rock Purty interceptions and really couldn't do anything with them.

821
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: Didn't look great. They lose that game. You go back home,

822
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: you have to play the Rams. Doesn't always seem like

823
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: you're going to turn things around. Well what do you do?

824
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: You go out there and you match the Rams blow

825
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: for blow, and yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I

826
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: kind of was on the train of thinking Stafford was

827
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: the MVP this year. But you cannot fumble the ball

828
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: when you're in field goal range at the end of

829
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: the game like that. I think that's beyond you know,

830
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: my respect for what the Panthers did. That's my biggest

831
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: takeaway is I'm like, wow, Like that was really surprising

832
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: from Stafford to turn the ball over in that moment,

833
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: not to not to protect the football. So yeah, it's interesting.

834
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the first year I can remember

835
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: in a while where there's no team that everyone agrees

836
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: that's probably the team to beat, right, because as soon

837
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: as we've made that designation this year, whatever week it

838
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: might be, that team then immediately loses.

839
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, because last year felt like the whole

840
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: season was Detroit in the NFC, in Kansas City and

841
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: the AFC there, everyone's like, like, those are the those are

842
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: clearly the best teams. That has not been the case

843
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: this year, you know. I think if you look at

844
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: a lot of different NFL rankings of where teams are,

845
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: it has moved throughout the season. A bunch of different

846
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: teams have gotten into that number one spot, and then

847
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: it seems like almost immediately then lose. But I thought

848
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 4: it was a really fun game. And I don't normally

849
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: think of the Panthers as a fun watch, but I

850
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: really did enjoy it. All right, let's get to the

851
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: AFC West. Coming up this week a rematch of the

852
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: Broncos and Raiders. The first meeting was one of the

853
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: hardest games to watch all season, a ten to seven

854
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: win for the Broncos. This one is in Vegas. Any

855
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: chance here for an upset alert? I mean, I've been

856
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: saying all season the Raiders are going to beat somebody good.

857
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: Is the Broncos? Maybe coming off the emotional high of

858
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 4: their win on Sunday night, and they're having to go

859
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: to Las Vegas again. I'm trying to convince myself with this,

860
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: Is there any chance the Raiders can beat the Broncos

861
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: this week?

862
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you my prediction. Are you ready

863
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: for it? Yes, the Broncos are going to win this

864
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: game by a field goal. That's my prediction.

865
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: Wait to go out on a flight there. Yes, just

866
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: like they always do.

867
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 2: I listen the Raiders. I've been struggling all year. Maybe

868
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers has a crazy day, but I do think

869
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: this game will be kind of close in the first half.

870
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: Broncos will probably pull away in the second half. But

871
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: if the Broncos ended up winning by a field goal

872
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: due to some inexplicable circumstances that took place prior, wouldn't

873
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: be surprised either. But either way, I'd be surprised if

874
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: the Broncos didn't win this game.

875
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: All right, A big one on Monday Night. The Eagles

876
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: and the Chargers two teams that are eight and four.

877
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 4: But why are they different? You know, the Eagles, if

878
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 4: you can step back from how poorly they played, they

879
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: have some of the most quality wins of anybody. Right.

880
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: They've beaten the Rams, They've beaten the Packers, they've beaten

881
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: the Lions, they've beaten the Cheeps, Right, I mean, they

882
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: have some great wins. You cannot say the same thing

883
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 4: about the Chargers. I'm going to get more into that

884
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 4: when we get deeper to the wildcard. But this is

885
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 4: a fascinating game. This Philadelphia team reminds me of the

886
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: team that fell apart two years ago when they were

887
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: ten to one and then just barely got in the

888
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: playoffs and got blown out in the first round. This

889
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: seems like it's happening again in Philadelphia, but they got

890
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: a chance to get right against the team and the

891
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: Chargers I don't think are nearly as good as their

892
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: record indicates. That has a truly banged up offensive line. Again,

893
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: I actually think the primetime game gives the Eagles a

894
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: chance to kind of get their dignity back, get some

895
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: respect after how poorly played against Chicago. What are your

896
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: thoughts on the Chargers hosting the Eagles on Monday night?

897
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hard to imagine the Eagles losing three

898
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: games in a row, right, and look at their last

899
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: couple of games. The Cowboys game was weird because they're

900
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: up three touchdowns and it seems like they're going to

901
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: cruise to a easy win, and then you allow twenty

902
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: four unanswered points to lose that game. And then the

903
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: game against the Bears was bizarre, bizarre, really bizarre. You

904
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: only score fifteen points.

905
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: I get it.

906
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: The Bears have been playing really good football lately, But

907
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just kind of expected more out

908
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: of the Eagles in that game. So I think the

909
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: Chargers are going to get the eagles best shot, that's

910
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: for sure. The Eagles have had a little bit extra

911
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: time to get ready for this one. It being a

912
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: primetime game I think does help the Eagles, but it

913
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: is across the country in Los Angeles. We'll see if

914
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: that affects them at all. But considering the issues for

915
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: the Chargers this year, particularly lately, with their offensive line

916
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: facing the Eagles defensive front, which I still think can

917
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: get after the quarterback and I still think this Eagles

918
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: defense is really good despite how things have gone lately,

919
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: could create a lot of problems for the Chargers. I

920
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: hope it does, because this is one of those games

921
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: that if you're a Chiefs fan, you're circling and we

922
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: need the Chargers to get some losses, right. So this

923
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: is a tough one for the Chargers, tough one for

924
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: Herbert coming off the injury. We'll see, but I think

925
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles got a great shot. They just got to

926
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: go out there and play like we know they can play.

927
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: It also pains me rooting for the Eagles. I'm not

928
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: enjoying saying these weeks.

929
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 4: Every word you said about not you had to say

930
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: something nice about the Eagles. I can feel beforementioned you

931
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: were being tormented.

932
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: I don't like it. But we need the Eagles to

933
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: win this game, and I think they can do it.

934
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: As much as it pains me to say.

935
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: Okay, you guys will have covered the Chiefs and the Texans,

936
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: and I will give it. I give the Texans a

937
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: lot of credits to go from oz and three to

938
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: where they are and winning three games with their backup quarterback.

939
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 4: They've showed me that that's a resilient bunch and they

940
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: are going to be a factor down the stretch. I'll

941
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 4: let you guys have covered that. The best games coming

942
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: up this week, and these have one of them will

943
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: have an effect on the Chiefs Colts and the Jaguars, right,

944
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of crazy to think that a

945
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: few weeks ago, I feel like the Colts were going

946
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: to win the division and run away. They're eight and one. Well, well,

947
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, things don't look quite as

948
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: good for the Colts. The Jaguars feels like they're they're

949
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 4: finding their way at times. They have them in the

950
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: prettiest team to watch, but they've gotten a ton of takeaways.

951
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: It feels like there's way more pressure on the Colts

952
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 4: this week than on the Jaguars. Why do I feel

953
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: that way? I'm curious what your thoughts. It sort of

954
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 4: feels like if the Colts don't get this thing corrected soon,

955
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: they're not going to make the playoffs at all, which

956
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: is kind of unvigling to think when they were one

957
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: of the first teams to eight wins. Who do you

958
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: think this game is more important for as they are

959
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: tied to top the AFC South.

960
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's two teams going in opposite directions right now.

961
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: Have you looked at the Colts schedule the rest of

962
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: the way.

963
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 4: That's why I don't think that they make the playoffs

964
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: unless they have a drastic change.

965
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: So let's run through it for those listening that haven't

966
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: looked at their schedule. So the Colts play at Jacksonville

967
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: this week, then at Seattle they host the Niners, then

968
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: they play the Jags again at home, and then at

969
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: Houston to close out the year. I mean, that's brutal, brutal,

970
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: and yeah, that's where the NFL season is so crazy that.

971
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we were talking about the Colts a couple

972
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: weeks ago, like they were one of the best teams

973
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: in football, like they were competing for the one seed,

974
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 2: and then you lose three of four with the only

975
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: win that was an overtime game against the Falcons in Berlin, right,

976
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: so you're kind of reeling right now. Their offense has

977
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: not been what it was. So they scored twenty points

978
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: against the Steelers, bunch of giveaways, thirty one against the Falcons,

979
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: and Jonathan Taylor goes crazy. That's kind of what we expected.

980
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: But then twenty points against US, sixteen points against the

981
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: Texans last week. Yeah, that's a team that I think

982
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: has a lot of pressure on him right now. And

983
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is dealing with the injury. Now, I still

984
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: don't really know what to make of the Jags. To

985
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: be honest with you, they're like a different team every

986
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: single week. But that's a team playing with momentum. And

987
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: I think as Chiefs fans, we are now on board

988
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: the train of we want the Jags to win that

989
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: division because all year we've talked about how the Chiefs

990
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: don't have these tie breakers in the wildcard chase. Well,

991
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: the Jags that division and if we can find a

992
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: way to beat Houston this weekend, you and now have

993
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: not one but two tie breakers over teams that you're

994
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: competing with in the wildcard race. So, uh yeah, we

995
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: want the Colts, I think, to kind of fall out

996
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: of this thing, and we want the Jags to win

997
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: that division. So we've gone from I think rooting against

998
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: Jacksonville all year, so I think we're rooting for the

999
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: Jags now in this game.

1000
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: We want them to basically win out and win all there.

1001
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: Because there are a lot of AFC South games remaining.

1002
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: The schedule makers this year nailed it. There are going

1003
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: to be so many critical games. You know, Jacksonville and

1004
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: the Colts haven't played yet, right, They've got two games up,

1005
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: so there's just I just think that division shockingly is

1006
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: going to be one of the most watched division races

1007
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 4: down the stretch. And yeah, I think if you're a

1008
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: Chiefs fan, I think it's pretty obvious you want up

1009
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: the Jags to run away with the division, win all

1010
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 4: of their division games, and that would give the Chiefs,

1011
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 4: if they can get hot, you know, a really really

1012
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: strong chance of making the postseason.

1013
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1014
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: The other great game is in the NFC the Bears

1015
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: that the Packers will play twice in a couple of weeks.

1016
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: The Bears are the one seed, which still I'm having

1017
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: our time wrapping my head around that. But you know,

1018
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: there's such a long standing rivalry. The Packers owned the

1019
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: Bears for the longest time and then it sort of

1020
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: a meaningless game for the Bears. The last game of

1021
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: last season, they went to Lambeau and they beat the Packers. Now,

1022
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 4: the Packers weren't going to win the NFC North anyway,

1023
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: but for the Bears, it felt like it was an

1024
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: important moment to head into their offseason and now they've

1025
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: got it right the table set. It's one of the

1026
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: oldest rivalries in the National FOOTBA Leaguey've been playing forever.

1027
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 4: I think it's fun that Chicago is good. I think

1028
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: it's good for the NFL that the Bears are at

1029
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: least interesting. What's your take on the Bears and the

1030
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 4: Packers game one of two coming up over the next

1031
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: few weeks.

1032
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: Well, that tie against the Cowboys is really coming back

1033
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: to bite the Packers right now, isn't it. But still

1034
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: despite that huge game, huge swing game in the NFC North,

1035
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: similar to Jacksonville, I'm still quite not sure what to

1036
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: make of Chicago, but I think that went over the

1037
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: Eagles to me kind of proves that they might be

1038
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: for real. This tart to two and they got annihilated

1039
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: by the Lions in Week two. Ever since then, they've

1040
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: just been finding ways to win games. The only loss

1041
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: we talked about it a few weeks ago, but the

1042
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: only loss being to Baltimore, but not Lamar Jackson. I

1043
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: think it's Snoop Puntley in that game. But yeah, they're

1044
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: just winning games and finding ways. It Being at Lambeau

1045
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: makes me think that the Packers are still going to

1046
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: have the edge in this game. And even though the

1047
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: Bears have played such great football this year, I have

1048
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: to imagine there's a certain amount of pressure you feel,

1049
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: kind of like the aura when you go into Lambeau

1050
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: and you're the Bears, you're trying to knock these guys off.

1051
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 2: I don't know, but the Bears have proven me wrong

1052
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: a lot this year, so we'll see. I'm fired up

1053
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: for this game. I'm curious to see how it turns out.

1054
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a really good one.

1055
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: All right.

1056
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: So now let's get into our AFC wild Card update.

1057
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: So three teams are at eight and four. It's the

1058
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: Chargers than the Colts, than the Bills. Then you've got

1059
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: Houston at seven and five, Pittsburgh at six and six,

1060
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: and Kansas City at six and six. Let me first

1061
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: state that the AFC North is only going to get

1062
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: one team in. I'm not even sure if that team's gonna,

1063
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: you know, be more than a game over five hundred.

1064
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: I'm not at all worried about the Steelers in the

1065
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 4: wildcard or the Ravens of the wildcard. I just I

1066
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: can't believe how bad the Ravens were last week. So

1067
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: the win the Bengals beat them was pretty stunning. So

1068
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm not at all worried about the Pittsburgh Baltimore, the

1069
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 4: non division winner being in the wildcard race. That's just

1070
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: my take, so I'm not sweating them at all. So

1071
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: now let's get to the Chargers. This is my sort

1072
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: of like strongest take of the week. So you look

1073
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: at who they've beaten since Week three, it's embarrassing like

1074
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: they look like they can't control who's on their schedule, right,

1075
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: but they haven't beaten team with a winning record since

1076
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: they beat the Broncos in Week three. They have bad

1077
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: losses against the Giants, against the Commanders, the terrible loss

1078
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: against the Jaguars. You could make a case that the

1079
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: Chargers will be underdogs in their last five games, right, Yeah,

1080
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: that's up to the odds makers, But I think you

1081
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: can make a case, do you if you had to

1082
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: say right now, are the Chargers going to make the playoffs?

1083
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: Are you in or out on the Chargers in the postseason?

1084
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: Well, I am a Chiefs fan, so I certainly want

1085
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: the Chargers to miss the playoffs because that would do

1086
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: us a big favor. That's why I think, well, the

1087
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: chief situation right now is not ideal. If you look

1088
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: at the Chargers schedule, which I'll run through here in

1089
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 2: a minute, and the cold schedule, which we just talked about.

1090
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: That's why if the Chiefs just take care of their

1091
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: own business. We're going to be okay. Just a matter

1092
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: of going out there and winning, right. And because the

1093
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: Chargers schedule the rest of the way, they play the

1094
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: Eagles in prime time and then they have to travel

1095
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: here and play us, so we control that one. Then

1096
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: to Dallas to play the Cowboys, and I do think

1097
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are a different team at home.

1098
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 4: Than Yeah, no question, that's no question.

1099
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Like the way the Cowboys offense is playing right now,

1100
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: like they're playing with renewed momentum, and just being at

1101
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: home I think is a big deal. So that's a

1102
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: tough game that maybe a month ago you look at

1103
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: that and say the Chargers are going to have that one.

1104
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. Then against Houston, which same thing a

1105
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: month ago you might say, ah, that's a gummy not anymore.

1106
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: Especially get what.

1107
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: Houston did to them in the playoffs lash year. They

1108
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: absolutely threw four picks. Like I'm sure that it's a

1109
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 4: game that you know, the Chargers they're circling on their calendar,

1110
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: but maybe now they regret circle. I think the Texans

1111
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 4: and that defense they're going to give their Chargers a

1112
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: ton of problems getting to that late the season and

1113
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: then they end at Denver in a game where Denver's

1114
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: probably still likely fighting for playoff positioning. So it's it's

1115
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: not going to be like last year where Kansas City

1116
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: goes to Denver doesn't play their starters. So I mean,

1117
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 4: I'm just curious. Even if you're a bullish on the Chargers,

1118
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 4: like can they get to eleven wins, I don't know.

1119
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 4: I think ten might be the ceiling, and then, you know,

1120
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: especially if one of those losses is to the Chiefs,

1121
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: I could really see a scenario where the Chargers don't

1122
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: make the playoffs.

1123
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: I also, this sounds sacrilegious saying this, but I think

1124
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: for the sake of that finale against Denver, we want

1125
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: New England to keep winning, and I think we want

1126
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: the Broncos to keep winning because you want them to

1127
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: have a shot at that one seed, because I don't

1128
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: want it to come down to Week eighteen and the

1129
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Broncos a arresting all their starters and we need the

1130
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: Chargers to lose, right, So I think we almost want

1131
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: the Broncos to keep winning, want the Patriots to keep winning.

1132
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: They're fighting for that one seed, and then the Broncos

1133
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: beat the Chargers in Week eighteen. We're getting ahead of ourselves.

1134
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have to take care of their own business here,

1135
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 2: but it is an encouraging thought if you're a Chiefs fan,

1136
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: just looking at the schedules for the Chargers and the

1137
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Colts the rest of the way, because it's not easy

1138
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs, thankfully, you have three home games during

1139
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: this stretch, right and we've played the Chargers close, we've

1140
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: played the Broncos close. I have faith and confidence they

1141
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: can get the job done. You just got to go

1142
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: out there and do it, and you got to win.

1143
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: And if we do that, we're going to be okay.

1144
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, looking at these schedules, pretty interesting.

1145
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 4: Pretty interesting, all right? So I just want to talk

1146
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: about the Texans. Right, So they're at Casey, then they

1147
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: have two super winnable home games against the Cardinals and

1148
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 4: the Raiders, then they go to the Chargers and then

1149
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: home verst the Colts. I think that the Texans, sitting

1150
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: at seven and five, are going to get to ten

1151
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: wins minimum. I actually think that the Texans are more

1152
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 4: likely to get in at this point than the Chargers. Now,

1153
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: obviously the game they play obviously will probably dictate the

1154
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: answer to that question. But I think you can make

1155
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: a reasonable argument, not mental gymnastics or trying to convince yourself,

1156
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: that the Texans are more likely to make the postseason

1157
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: than the Chargers based on remaining schedule.

1158
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: I think that's totally fair and based on how the

1159
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: two teams are playing right now. Yep, the Texans have

1160
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: been playing excellent defense all year, Like, even when they

1161
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: began zero to three, like they weren't allowing their opponents

1162
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: to score a bunch of points. They've allowed twenty or

1163
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: more points three times this season. It's crazy, and most

1164
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: of those were because of like short fields or big

1165
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: punk returns or something. So I mean, the Texans I

1166
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: think definitely have a great shot. And with you mentioning

1167
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: the ten wins, that's why for the Chiefs this game

1168
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: on Sunday is such a big deal because this is

1169
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: like one of those potential tiebreaker games because let's say

1170
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: the Chiefs lose one more game the rest of the

1171
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: way get to ten wins, you want the tiebreaker over

1172
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: a team like Houston. So I'm really looking at this

1173
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: game like a playoff game, right and every game the

1174
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: rest of the way is kind of that way. But

1175
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: this game in particular, just because of how the schedules

1176
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: work out, because of how you're playing a team that's

1177
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: right there with you and is playing really good football.

1178
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: This is a big one, and if the Chiefs can

1179
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: win it, I will be fired up talking to you

1180
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: next week, my friend.

1181
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 4: I'll look forward to that.

1182
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: All right.

1183
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: You mentioned the difficulty of the culturemanning schedules. I won't

1184
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: go into that. So the last one I mentioned is Buffalo,

1185
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: and I've been trying to slowly try to convince myself

1186
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: and you that there's a chance that the Bills won't

1187
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. So just bear with me here. Okay,

1188
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: they're eight and four. Cincinnati looked great last week. Granted

1189
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 4: it was against Baltimore, it wasn't against Buffalo, but I

1190
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 4: thought they looked good. I thought Joe Burrow looked good.

1191
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 4: Cincinnati is still mathematically a part of it. They could

1192
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: get to nine wins. They're probably not gonna make the playoffs,

1193
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: but just bear with me. They win at Buffalo, then

1194
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: Buffalo goes to New England and loses. Okay, I say

1195
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: they win at Cleveland. They could definitely lose to the

1196
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: Eagles at home and then beat the Jets, so in theory,

1197
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: they could go two and three down the stretch, which

1198
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: gets them to ten wins. I realize they have the

1199
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 4: tiebreaker against the Chiefs have been those two, but it's

1200
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: crazy to think that the Bills could be ten and

1201
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: seven right. Nobody had them going ten and seven. I

1202
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: just can't recall a time where the AFC was loaded

1203
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: with so many great teams. But if you go through

1204
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: they all don't have a ton of great wins. They

1205
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 4: all don't have wins over teams with winning records. It's

1206
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: been a very peculiar season. It's setting up for great

1207
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: drama late in the year. But like you said, there

1208
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: are not a bunch of teams in the AFC that

1209
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: you think are clearly the best. Because even New England

1210
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 4: and Denver I think they're having great years, but their

1211
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 4: schedules have been incredible, particularly New England. I think they

1212
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: played two teams with a winning record all season. So

1213
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: I think the Bills will get in. But just to

1214
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: just add to the craziness of the AFC wildcard picture,

1215
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: there is a scenario in my mind where somehow the

1216
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: Bills don't make it. Your thoughts on that.

1217
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: I have a hard time believing the Bills don't make it,

1218
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 2: just because I'm so used to the Bills being there

1219
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 2: and I have so much respect for Josh Allen. Their

1220
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: schedule doesn't make it easy, but I think they will

1221
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: be there in the end. I'm not counting on Buffalo

1222
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: missing the playoffs and that's stealing their spot, right. So

1223
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: that's why I'm kind of fixated on this AFC South

1224
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: plan and the Chargers potentially falling out because I just

1225
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have too much respect for Buffalo

1226
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: and the caliber of game they can play when they

1227
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: need to play well. But you know, looking at the

1228
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: standings right now, it's just funny how the way the

1229
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: NFL is designed, where if you finish in last place,

1230
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: they want you to try to get, you know, into

1231
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: first place, and if you finish in first place, you're

1232
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: going to play tough schedule. They want you to finish lower.

1233
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: This is the first I can remember where it really

1234
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: feels like the standings just kind of flipped on their head.

1235
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look at that, Look at that the standings

1236
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: right now, which I hate seeing the Chiefs in the

1237
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: ten spot. We need to improve this because I mix

1238
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: my eyes hurt. But the Patriots being the one seed,

1239
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: followed by Denver and Jacksonville. What if I told you

1240
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: that at the beginning of the year, you'd be like,

1241
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And the Ravens are the four,

1242
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: but by default there's six and six right there where

1243
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: we are, and the Colts being in this mix. I mean,

1244
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: the fact that the Bills, we're even talking about this

1245
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: about them like having to you know, win a certain

1246
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: number of games to make the playoffs is crazy. The

1247
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: Ravens being where they are is crazy, and the Chiefs

1248
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: being in their situation is totally out of nowhere. So

1249
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure those that enjoy just watching the NFL are

1250
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: having the time of their life watching this season. But

1251
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: my hope is that for us, and the same is

1252
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: true for Buffalo, if I'm being honest in Baltimore as well,

1253
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: you just get in because you never know what can

1254
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: happen if you get in. And that's kind of my

1255
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: whole mindset right now is just get in the playoffs

1256
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: and see what happens, because a lot of teams that

1257
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of playoff experience, we'll have a

1258
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on them, and just get in and

1259
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: see what happens. But again, I keep getting back to

1260
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: this all begins with one game at a time, and

1261
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: we got to beat the Texans on Sunday.

1262
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: Well, one thing, it's interesting to notice when I sent

1263
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: you the rundown, I hadn't filled in yet what my

1264
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: final thought was, and it's actually already come up multiple times.

1265
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 4: And my final thought about the NFL this year is parody.

1266
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: And you nailed it earlier. I can't recall the season

1267
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: where things have been flipped on their head like they

1268
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: have this season. But I also think it's really what

1269
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: makes the NFL great that you can have a new

1270
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: England team that looked like it was going nowhere, but

1271
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: two years ago they draft Drake May so you can

1272
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: get the quarterback right, that's the foundation. Then they got

1273
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: the right coach in Mike Grabel, and they've completely turned

1274
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: this thing around. Think about it. You got in Denver,

1275
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: you got a second year quarterback with the right coach,

1276
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 4: and Sean Payton who had to get rid of Russell

1277
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 4: Wilson go through the draft. So when you get the

1278
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: right marriage of a head coach and a quarterback, like

1279
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: we've had the pleasure of watching in Kansas City for

1280
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: a long stretch. Now, it's just so cool that it

1281
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 4: doesn't matter whether you're in Kansas City, whether you're in

1282
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 4: New York, whether you're in Los Angeles, it doesn't matter

1283
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: what market you're in. Everybody has a chance to have

1284
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: success in the National Footballing That's why it's the best

1285
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: sport and the most beloved sport in America. Everybody's got

1286
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: a fair chance. It's a true meritocracy. It doesn't matter

1287
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys are worth more as a franchise than

1288
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: anybody else. It doesn't help them at all on the field, right,

1289
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: So it's just they have curated a sport that gives

1290
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: every single fan a realistic chance that within his season

1291
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: or two, my team could be contending for the number

1292
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: one seed. My team could be a super Bowl contender.

1293
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: And I harken back, I'm older than you. When the

1294
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: Saint Louis Rams, we're going to have Trent Green is

1295
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: a quarterback, Trent Green gets hurt in the preseason, and

1296
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: a guy named Kurt Warner nobody had ever heard of,

1297
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: and they go on to win the Super Bowl. So

1298
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: it can happen in any year. And that to me

1299
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: is why the NFL is the best. Is that any season,

1300
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: any team in any markets a chance to win. The

1301
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: NFL has nailed that parody is a great thing for

1302
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 4: all the fans, and that is my final thought for

1303
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 4: this week.

1304
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. That's why those that oppose

1305
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: like a salary cap and baseball, I just don't understand

1306
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: it unless you are a major league baseball player. Why

1307
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: would you ever oppose a salary cap in baseball? Because

1308
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: it's exactly what you're saying that football is the best

1309
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: because everybody has a shot every single year. I can

1310
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: tell whoever's picking number one overall in the draft this year,

1311
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: they might have a shot to win the Super Bowl

1312
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: next year. Not super likely, but it's possible, Whereas in

1313
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: other sports, particularly baseball, it's a long grind normally to

1314
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: get back to the top or to even compete. And

1315
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: that's why football is the best. So I'm totally with

1316
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: you on that. My final thought is a bit of

1317
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: a metaphor. So you already know this. I was texting

1318
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: you about it, but for everyone listening, I get to

1319
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: work yesterday on Monday and I sit down going to

1320
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: start knocking out some of my postgame stuff to close

1321
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: the book on that game. And look forward right, and

1322
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm holding a couple of water and I'm kind of

1323
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: resting my arm on my chair and the chair buckles

1324
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: and I dump water all over my laptop. Terrible start

1325
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: to the morning. All right, it's bad because at first

1326
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I think it's gonna be okay.

1327
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 2: I kind of shook it out right, dried it off.

1328
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: I think it'll be all right. None of my like

1329
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: ports work. I can't get any work done. There's like

1330
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: a long streak of water just going across my screen.

1331
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is really bad. I go down to it,

1332
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: and you know, it snowed here in Kansas City, so

1333
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: I already not a lot of people here. I kind

1334
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: of just want to go home. It wants to go home.

1335
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: But they sent me up with a new computer. I

1336
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: really appreciate them because they spent several hours getting this

1337
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: all set up for me. But then finally after all that,

1338
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: I was able to sit down and it got my

1339
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: work done. I'm talking to you on a brand new computer.

1340
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: Everything is great, And it was just a matter of

1341
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: getting through that time right. And it kind of made

1342
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: me think about the ups and downs of the Chief

1343
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 2: season so far, where out of nowhere. I wasn't playing

1344
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: I think on spilling water on my laptop kind of

1345
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: surprised me, but certainly was not the plan when I

1346
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: woke up and when I came to work on Monday morning,

1347
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: and it was a bummer and I had to work

1348
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: through it, and I had to change some things. I

1349
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: was using pen and paper. I have it somewhere over

1350
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,479
Speaker 2: here of my notes and musings from the game, because

1351
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: I had no computer. I had to figure it out right. Well,

1352
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 2: I got through that time. I relied on those around

1353
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: me to help me out. And now it's a new day,

1354
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: a new week, and things are looking better and things

1355
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: are improved. And it's the same thing with this Chiefs

1356
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: team where that Dallas game, at times things were going great.

1357
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: Game couldn't have started better with the interception scoring on

1358
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: like the third offensive snap of our first drive. But

1359
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: some things happened, the penalties, the third down defense, things

1360
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: kind of piled up. We ended up losing a game

1361
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: again that I felt like we could have won our

1362
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: sixth one score loss, fourth loss by a field goal

1363
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: this year. And it'd be easy to just go home

1364
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: and to say I'm not going to work today. This

1365
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: is not my day because I spilled water all over

1366
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: my laptop. But what you can do is you can

1367
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: figure it out. You can look ahead and figure out

1368
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: what can I do right now and who can help

1369
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: me to get back on track and how do I

1370
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: keep my eyes forward and take care of business? And

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, it got me thinking about this game with

1372
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: the Texans, and I'm fired up for it now because

1373
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: being back at home in prime time, this is an

1374
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: awesome opportunity to go out there and to remind everybody

1375
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: that we're still here. And I know the team's going

1376
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: to be fired up to do that. I hope that

1377
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: the stadium is rocking because I still feel like the

1378
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: crowd kind of willed the Chiefs to a victory over

1379
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: the Colts. We need a similar thing against the Texans

1380
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: this week. And you know, I don't know. After spilling

1381
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: water on my laptop, I feel better about it now

1382
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: because it's a matter of just getting back to work.

1383
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: So that is my long winded metaphor trying to find

1384
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: the bright side. Final thought for you today, Ari, Uh.

1385
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well you found the bright side. And my

1386
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: final final thought is, you know, and Andy Reid has

1387
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: spoken since the game, I think he you know, has

1388
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 4: pointed out the penalty's got to go. He's you know,

1389
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 4: but he seems hyper focused on Look, we're gonna come

1390
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 4: and give our best shot against everybody we're gonna play,

1391
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 4: and the way he said it just remind you of

1392
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 4: that confidence that he brings, like he's done it, he's

1393
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: been there. Nothing's going to rattle Big Red. And there's

1394
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: no person I'd rather have leading the Chiefs out on

1395
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: Sunday night than Andy Reid. So I feel like I

1396
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 4: could say what I'm grateful for every week, Andy ree

1397
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 4: would be at the top of it. But given everything

1398
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: that's happened, we've got the exact right guy in charge,

1399
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: and the Chiefs are going to find a way to

1400
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: win on Sunday night. So that is going to do it.

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01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 4: For this week's edition About West with Ari Wolf a

1402
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 4: ton of phone with Matt as always, and we hope

1403
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 4: everybody enjoys the game.

1404
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: This week, So thank you Ari. He stays on the

1405
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: case trying to get the Chiefs get pulled in here

1406
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: to make a rush for attacking December and earning it,

1407
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: especially against this Houston defense. Now, the other thing about

1408
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: the Houston team are the local Tians.

1409
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a bunch.

1410
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: First of all, you can't have just one Iowa State receiver.

1411
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: They have three. They have three? Is this the Iowa

1412
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: State Cyclones of the Houston Texans. They have three? And

1413
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Noel we like coming out of the draft. Yeah,

1414
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: he was outstaying in Iowa State park Hill Trojan and

1415
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: now they're left tackle. Remember they traded Laramie Tonsel and

1416
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario's a whole different story here, a good story

1417
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: for them being successful. But they go get Aurante Sray

1418
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,479
Speaker 1: who was from rusk And High School here in Kansas City.

1419
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: Great career at Minnesota. He's their left tackle. Yeah, and

1420
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: it has been ever since Week two. These are local

1421
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: dudes on this Houston team.

1422
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: Ersery reminds me of like whenever do you ever, like

1423
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: in the n c DOAA football game, do you ever

1424
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: like create a player.

1425
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: I have and I feel like I'm cheating, Yeah, because

1426
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: it's always like seven hundred pounds and he runs a

1427
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 1: four to two. Yeah.

1428
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: Or even when you try recruiting a player they might

1429
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: be like a one star, but they're like three hundred

1430
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: and eighty pounds. It's like I can work with that,

1431
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: you know. Ersery is like that kind of guy that

1432
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: I would have recruited with my little digital guys, where

1433
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: he's like a freaking nature. He's like six foot seven,

1434
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty pounds or something. And even though

1435
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: I think at Minnesota he was considered kind of raw,

1436
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: it's like you can work with a player like that.

1437
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: You can't teach his height and his size, and he's

1438
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: been pretty good for him. Their offense overall, like I

1439
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: was mentioning earlier, has picked it up of late. They're

1440
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: the number twenty one scoring offense in the NFL, averaging

1441
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: just under twenty two points per game. I think they're

1442
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: better than that. Lately, they've won four games in a row.

1443
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: Nico Collins is a big reason why. He's near the

1444
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: top of the league and receiving yards during our four

1445
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: game winning streak with three hundred and ninety nine. I

1446
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: believe he's been really good for them. They have good

1447
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: players over the middle, of guys like Dalton Schultz. Of course,

1448
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: Jayden Higgins, another Iowa State receiver, big physical player, kind

1449
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: of presents some matchup issues.

1450
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1451
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: Three hundred and eighty one yards for Collins over the

1452
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: last four games, his third in the NFL, So, yeah,

1453
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: they have some good players. They're running back tandem is

1454
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: interesting as well. But having Stroud back after missing three

1455
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: games did enough to beat the Colts. Still think he

1456
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: is better than he's played at times this season. But

1457
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: he's still ce j stre He's still a really good

1458
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: player and want to be at our best. Got to

1459
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: create pressure on him in this game. That's one thing

1460
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: we couldn't really do against the Cowboys is create pressure consistently.

1461
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: Stroud's numbers are significantly worse under pressure this year. Got

1462
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: to find a way to consistently generate pressure.

1463
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember that playoff win he had against

1464
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers in twenty three. Yeah, last year he was

1465
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: beaten up. Remember we played these guys two times within

1466
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: a month, so we've played him now three times within

1467
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: a calendar year, which is odd in the National Football League.

1468
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: But I think Stroud's a player, and he was talking

1469
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: about blowing the rust off because he came back after

1470
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: his missing three games because of a concussion. And his

1471
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: quarterback rating wasn't great against the Colts, but there was

1472
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: some efficiency there. But the one guy that jumps up

1473
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: to me is Woody Marx. Woody Marks is the rookie

1474
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: running back at a USC He looks like a young JK. Dobbin,

1475
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: same number twenty seven. But Nick Cassario, their GM who's

1476
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: made twenty five trades on Draft Day since twenty twenty

1477
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: one or Draft weekend, I should say, and was able

1478
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: to get drought and Well Anderson Junior in the same draft,

1479
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: but he was able to get Woody Marx last year.

1480
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: He's got a low center of gravity. They're running the

1481
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: ball now when they're own three stint, they're only getting

1482
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: twelve points seven points a game, and they're seven and

1483
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: two stint, including three games with Davis Mills, they're averaging

1484
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: twenty five points a game. We already talked about how

1485
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to get twenty against their defense. But I

1486
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: think Woody Marks here is a little bit of an

1487
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: untold story that in their maturation or their offensive line,

1488
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: and Eseries right in the middle of that as a

1489
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: left tackle, he's got a really good shot at being

1490
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: on the All Rookie team.

1491
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think with their running backs, they've done a

1492
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: good job of kind of bringing Marks along where they

1493
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: had Chubb, and they still do and he'll still play.

1494
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: But Marx has been the guy that's kind of shouldering

1495
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: that load over the second half of the season, where

1496
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: he's carried the ball at least ten times in seven

1497
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: straight games, fresh legs between him and Chubb, where you're

1498
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: not relying on necessarily one of them to just do

1499
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: all of the dirty work. They have two good players.

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: I think Chubb, considering what he had to go through

1501
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 2: with his injury rehab one of the most groose some

1502
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: injuries I've seen in a long time, he's found a

1503
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: way to be a really kind of competent, solid player

1504
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: for them. And Marx has been kind of a revelation.

1505
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: He's been great. So got to start by stopping the

1506
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: running game. The Chiefs did an okay job of that

1507
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: against the Cowboys. Javonte Williams didn't have a crazy game.

1508
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 2: A couple of big explosive runs for the Cowboys, though

1509
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: that in a way we're backbreakers. You can't let Stroud

1510
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: have a really effective running game here in this one, because,

1511
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 2: like we said, they have some receivers that can create

1512
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: some matchup problems, particularly Collins and Higgins and Schultz over

1513
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: the middle. So got to find a way to stop

1514
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: the run and generate some pressure on Stroud. We've seen

1515
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: these guys a lot over the years and we've been

1516
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: able to generate pressure on them. Got to find a

1517
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: way to do that here again here in this game,

1518
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: and don't let them convert on third down consistently like

1519
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: the Cowboys did, because you just can't let a team

1520
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: march down the field, convert on third and ten, and

1521
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: convert on third and nine and then finish in the

1522
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: red zone and then face this really good Texans defense.

1523
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: That's where you have a problem. So for the Chiefs

1524
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: in this game, find a way to shut down what

1525
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: he marks in this running game, create that pressure on Stroud,

1526
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: maybe get a short field here or there, and try

1527
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: to finish in the red zone.

1528
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: And you've got to figure hold him under twenty, yeah,

1529
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be I mean, it's gonna be tough

1530
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: to get to twenty on this defense. That's what you

1531
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of got to think here. And Collins is an

1532
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: Olympic four hundred meter hurdler playing football. That's what he

1533
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: looks like. I mean, just a splendid athlete like him.

1534
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: But every defensive coordinator, if they ask Santa claus Hey,

1535
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: bring me third and long, Yes, third and eight, nine

1536
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: or ten Santa's going, hey, I'm giving it to you.

1537
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with it? And get off

1538
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: the field. And for the Chiefs, what are you going

1539
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: to do with it? Attack December and earn it