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Speaker 1: joined the Trump dictatorship already in progress. He has attacked Iran,

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Speaker 1: declared undeclared war on Iran, proposed regime change in Iran

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Speaker 1: done all this because he has lost America. D mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Trump briefed Sean Hannity in advance about starting his war

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Speaker 1: against Iran. He briefed Met and Yahoo in advance about

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Speaker 1: He decided last Wednesday and spent the rest of the

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Speaker 1: He did not brief the nation a nation, which polling

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Speaker 1: He did not brief the only one of his cabinet

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Speaker 1: of the intelligence community that a Iran was nowhere near

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Speaker 1: eradicate their nuclear program and see any bombing of for

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Speaker 1: He ignored reality. He lied to America. He did everything

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Speaker 1: This is a forever war and we are now in it.

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Speaker 1: And he told his pals in advance so they would

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Speaker 1: one person, and one person only himself. So we joined

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Speaker 1: the Trump dictatorship already in progress. Not that any of

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Speaker 1: this should be a surprise. Long term planning for Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has always been about three hours, maybe three and

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Speaker 1: is no doubt he had seen the polling. Most polsters

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Speaker 1: handed attack on Los Angeles using ice Let's call it

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Speaker 1: what it is, isis that that was incredibly unpopular. When

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Speaker 1: even CNN's polster Harry Enton says, I think we can

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Speaker 1: say Trump has lost the political battle when it comes

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Speaker 1: way worse than that. CNN has him fifteen points underwater

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Speaker 1: on the ISIS raids, twenty four underwater on the ISIS raids,

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Speaker 1: approval is underwater in fifteen states that he won last year.

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Speaker 1: Trump attacked Iran because he has lost America. And of course,

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Speaker 1: as I said here Thursday morning, because the baseline reason

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Speaker 1: to waste ordnance, to blow up your own bombs and

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Speaker 1: one political observer wrote on January seventeenth, twenty twelve, quote

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Speaker 1: The same political observer wrote on October ninth, twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: And as the same political observer wrote on September twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: And finally, that same political observer wrote on November tenth,

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Speaker 1: all five cases this was Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump. Case closed.

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Speaker 1: Trump attacked Iran because he's lost American Now to the

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Speaker 1: sequel one, this is not about regime change. They emphasize

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Speaker 1: please everybody. Why don't you go supervise that yourself, Trump

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Speaker 1: move to Iran. You have all the insanity and self

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Speaker 1: time in history, AOC and Congress and Thomas Massey are

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Speaker 1: right at the same time about the same thing. This

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Speaker 1: is unconstitutional, says Massy. It is absolutely and clearly grounds

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Speaker 1: for impeachment, says Okasio Cortes.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Even Bush sought a form of congressional approval, feeble and

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Speaker 1: fraudulently induced as it was, it is impeachable. Impeach the

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Speaker 1: son of a bitch. Three. Trump says the nuclear sites

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Speaker 1: were destroyed. Trump is lying as usual. Even his own

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Speaker 1: generals acknowledged they can have no idea if the bombing

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Speaker 1: Four He's pissed off the Russians. Iran's foreign minister meets

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Speaker 1: Russian ambassador to the UN says he's got deja vu

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Speaker 1: And as usual, the entire event is overflowing like a

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Speaker 1: is actually just a confession. They called this mission Midnight Hammer.

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Speaker 1: of DUI, I'm sorry. The head of DoD heg seth,

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Speaker 1: it will sure do. In his briefing yesterday, Pete hegseeth

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Speaker 1: the world knowing at all? Ah Hell Tehran, downtown Tehran

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Speaker 1: me on the chat later. I'm just here enjoying Operation Midnight.

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Speaker 1: Hammered more Republican admissions. JD. Vance. You know the guy

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Speaker 1: Who's who's a now, all right, Jimmy Vance, Jimmy Donalds,

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Speaker 1: accusations that are actually confession.

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Speaker 1: I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after twenty

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Speaker 1: Now we have a president who actually knows how to

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Speaker 1: accomplish America's national security objective. Well, he's right, except that

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Speaker 1: this accomplished none of our national security objectives. It has

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Speaker 1: Posted this within minutes of the bombing by Stephen Collinson.

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Speaker 1: Analysis US strikes mark a stunning demonstration of military might

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Speaker 1: attack on Iran's nuclear sites is both a stunning demonstration

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Speaker 1: But the Middle East has changed. Israel has dismantled many

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Speaker 1: So Collinson thinks it's in Tehran too. This is with

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Speaker 1: And this man Collinson. You have to compliment him. You

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Speaker 1: for CNN in November twenty twenty two that the election

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Speaker 1: Thomas Massey remarked that Saturday night, and he was mocked

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Speaker 1: What ultimately reverses the course towards self destruction of those

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Speaker 1: already done. It elevated itself. The path is now America

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Speaker 1: thinks God is directing all this, even if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: an omnipotent, an omnipotent individual, You mean me. What's somebody

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Speaker 1: This month you have everything from Cuomo plus twelve to

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Speaker 1: Centrist Democrats are sounding the alarm that are surging Democratic

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, we're going to have oh socialism

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Speaker 1: But we can't have anything outside of what we think

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Speaker 1: The Third Way memo highlights defunding the police, closing jails,

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Speaker 1: panning private healthcare, and operating city owned grocery stores as

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Speaker 1: positions American voters would find beyond the pale Oh, no

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Speaker 1: food America is against food. Mam Danny has repeatedly pushed

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Speaker 1: back against the anti semitism label. I've said at every opportunity,

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Speaker 1: there's no room for anti semitism in this city, in

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Speaker 1: this country. In point of fact, they asked him a

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Speaker 1: question and he did not explode at them, so they

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Speaker 1: called that adjacent to anti Semitism. At a post election

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Speaker 1: retreat for Democrats in Virginia earlier this year, Third Way

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Speaker 1: concluded in a memo that the party needs your own

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Speaker 1: failures of democratic governance in large cities and commit to

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Speaker 1: improving local government, start with the ones in Virginia. It's

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Speaker 1: also a proxy battle political note political notes in this

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Speaker 1: advertisement for the Third Way people, Mamdanny has not just

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Speaker 1: the endorsements of Senator Bernie Sanders and AOC Jim Clyburn

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Speaker 1: back to Cuomo on Friday, It's also a proxy battle

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Speaker 1: in the sense that Israel and anti Semitism have come

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Speaker 1: up again and again, which Cuomo wants to keep in

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Speaker 1: the spotlight on the topic, says their reporter. Cuomo has

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Speaker 1: focused on Mandani's response to a podcast question on whether

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Speaker 1: the phrase globalize the Intifada makes him uncomfortable. Mandani did

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Speaker 1: not reject or condemn the phrase. He has said it

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Speaker 1: means different things to different people, and reiterated that he

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Speaker 1: would protect Jewish New Yorkers and combat anti Semitism. I'm

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Speaker 1: waiting for somebody to get onto the fact that Andrew Cuomo,

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Speaker 1: when asked about whether or not he killed people during

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Speaker 1: COVID or, was found liable for constant sexual pestering while

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Speaker 1: governor and had to resign. If he's condemned any of that,

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Speaker 1: did he condemn it enough? I don't think so. The

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Speaker 1: key issue here is this Third Way is a trojan horse.

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Speaker 1: It has worked on legislation introduced into the Senate by

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham. It was accused of suppressing anything that its

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Speaker 1: own research found suggested that Democratic voters actually are enraged

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Speaker 1: by Trump and maga that this is philosophical, that this

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Speaker 1: is about democratic failure to act. Third Way is accused

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Speaker 1: of deep tized banking. It is this close to being

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Speaker 1: one of those groups that refers to the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: as the Democrat Party. It does not have the motto,

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Speaker 1: but I think it might have considered it remember only

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Speaker 1: support Democrats approved by Republicans. Also of interest hearing this

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Speaker 1: all new edition of Countdown? Who can destroy himself faster?

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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper or Stephen A. Smith. Every time I think

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Speaker 1: we have a clear winner, the other one starts talking again.

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Speaker 1: That's next. This is Countdown. This is Countdown. Thilberman, my

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Speaker 1: crazy friend still ahead on this all new edition of Countdown.

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Speaker 1: I ain't freud exactly, but for an amateur, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: good on the interpretation of dreams, and this subject came

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Speaker 1: up yesterday as I was writing this show on of

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Speaker 1: all things, the Fan Dual Sports Network telecast. That's a

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Speaker 1: plug I work for them now of the Detroit Tigers

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Speaker 1: at the Tampa Bay Rays. What does it mean when

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Speaker 1: a baseball pitcher who pitched his last game in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three keeps having this dream where he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: get onto the mound to pitch the game right now,

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Speaker 1: except the shoelaces on his spikes have been tied together

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Speaker 1: and he can't move. It is the standard old dude

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Speaker 1: stress dream. I have them too, but there is an

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Speaker 1: amazing twist which explains why keep having them. It's nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: It's memories of being young. I'll explain next in Things,

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Speaker 1: I promise not to tell the Dreamscape edition first. Believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about.

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Speaker 1: The roundup of the miscreants, morons and Dunning Krueger effect

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Speaker 1: specimens who constitute today's other worst persons in the world.

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Speaker 1: And this is like Champions week on Jeopardy. These are

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Speaker 1: three of the most frequent worst persons in the world

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Speaker 1: in this incarnation of the program, The Brons. The mayor

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Speaker 1: of New York mister soon to be seventh place finisher,

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams. He has now said he could have done

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Speaker 1: a better job vetting the internet personality known for his

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Speaker 1: anti Semitic views. Sneak O promised he didn't know his

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Speaker 1: history before meeting with him over cigars. Maybe I'm just

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Speaker 1: too optimistic, the mayor said that I believe there's something

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Speaker 1: good in everyone and we should try to find that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should have reached out to the team late

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Speaker 1: at night said hey, can you vet this person? But

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Speaker 1: this is a challenge for me because everyone comes to me.

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Speaker 1: Adams told reporters about sneak O. The mayor, who has

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Speaker 1: made fighting anti Semitism and support for Israel key focuses

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Speaker 1: of his re election effort, said he was sitting on

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Speaker 1: the porch of Gracie Mansion smoking his cigar Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: then other people came and joined me, and they brought

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Speaker 1: people with them, and they started engaging in the conversation,

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Speaker 1: and he was one of the people people that engage

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Speaker 1: in that conversation. Adam said about mister sneak O, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know his history. I don't support anything that is

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Speaker 1: criticizing any group in this city. He's close with Nick

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Speaker 1: Fuentes and Kanye West. Sneak O. But the mayor didn't

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Speaker 1: know anything about him. He just thought he was a

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Speaker 1: guy who liked cigars and sitting on the mayor's porch.

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Speaker 1: Because anybody can just walk up to the mayor's house

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Speaker 1: and go sit on the porch with him, That's not

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Speaker 1: how it works. You have to be invited and you

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Speaker 1: have to get a security check. So somebody looked this

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Speaker 1: guy up and went mayor's running on an anti Semitism campaign. Well,

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Speaker 1: this guy Sneako and the word anti Semitism they come

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Speaker 1: up a lot in our Google search. Come on down here,

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Speaker 1: have a cigar. It would befit this city and all

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Speaker 1: the bad things we've done back when we used to

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Speaker 1: finance the slave trade and other terrible things that we

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Speaker 1: did in the nineteenth century and earlier and later. It

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Speaker 1: would befit this city if we got this idiot Cuomo

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Speaker 1: as our mayor, because we had this idiot Adams is

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Speaker 1: our mayor, who succeeded this idiot Deblasio as our mayor,

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Speaker 1: who is going to get back and deal with the

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Speaker 1: crisis here except he needed a ride to the airport

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Speaker 1: in Iowa and couldn't get one, and he, of course

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Speaker 1: succeeded this idiot. Bloomberg is our mayor, who of course

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Speaker 1: succeeded the original gangster idiot Rudy Giuliani. I think we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have an election. I should stay on as mayor

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Speaker 1: forever because who could possibly replace me anybody, and anybody

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Speaker 1: did replace you moving on the runner up. As I said,

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Speaker 1: some people are satisfied with destroying their careers and others

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Speaker 1: just have to keep on going and making sure it

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Speaker 1: will never move again. It's been dead already for months.

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Speaker 1: Jake hit it again. Wait, I'll do it, Tapper on

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Speaker 1: c Span Now, what do you think he's talking about?

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Speaker 1: As you hear the start of this quote, I feel

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Speaker 1: this way about the weapons of mass destruction on Iraq story.

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Speaker 1: I was a reporter of that was skeptical of the

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Speaker 1: WMD claim, but certainly, in hindsight I wish I had

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Speaker 1: been more skeptical. Was he talking about the build up

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Speaker 1: to Trump's war against Iran? The oh, never go for

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Speaker 1: regime change. Let's have regime change, Lindsey Graham says, what

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Speaker 1: a good idea, Trump, Let's have regime change. Let's just

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Speaker 1: drop bombs on a country with no congressional authorization and

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Speaker 1: tell the nation, We're going to give it another two weeks.

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Speaker 1: This nation, not their nation. Who gives a damn what

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Speaker 1: you told that nation? You think Jake Tapper's talking about that.

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Speaker 1: I was a reporter that was skeptical of the wn

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Speaker 1: D claim, but certainly, in hindsight, I wish I had

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Speaker 1: been more skeptical. I feel this way about the weapons

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Speaker 1: of mass destruction in rack story. Certainly when it comes

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Speaker 1: to President Biden's acuity, I wish I had covered it

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Speaker 1: more aggressively. Jake, Actually, this is my actual belief. At

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Speaker 1: this point, you need a cat scan. You are no

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Speaker 1: longer connected to reality. They're selling a book, selling your

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Speaker 1: soul for a book. And then there's what you're doing now,

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Speaker 1: which is ignoring all the reality when everybody around you

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Speaker 1: is saying stop, lay down, stay down. Dude. You've humiliated

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Speaker 1: yourself and destroyed whatever reputation you had, and you just

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Speaker 1: hear you're doing great, Jake, from invisible men who may

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Speaker 1: live inside your cat scan. Seriously, let's hope it's just

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Speaker 1: like an inner ear problem that can be fixed with medication.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm rooting for, Jake. I don't have anything

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Speaker 1: personally against you. I don't want to see terrible things

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Speaker 1: happen to you. Apparently you do. You're doing them to

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Speaker 1: yourself right now. But the winner, Jake Tapper, is not

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Speaker 1: content with his own self destruct and is now doing

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Speaker 1: it for the seventeenth time. Stephen A. Smith says, hold

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Speaker 1: my anti semitism adjacent beer. That is the new term

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Speaker 1: right that's there using this against Mam Danny. It's anti

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Speaker 1: semitism adjacent. He has come back for a second helping

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Speaker 1: of let me tell you how great Candace Owens is.

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Speaker 1: Smith and I'm reading from Mediaite addressed the recent controversy

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Speaker 1: over his interview with right wing smear merchant Candace Owens

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Speaker 1: on his show on YouTube, insisting that she quote knows

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Speaker 1: what she's talking about. Stop Stephen, stop, unplug everything. Mute

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Speaker 1: the microphone claim it was a glitch. Claim you've been hacked.

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Speaker 1: Stop right there. She knows what she's talking about. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what she's talking about. She's an insane woman

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Speaker 1: who was fired by people who are already insane by themselves.

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Speaker 1: She was fired by Ben Shapiro. Look him up. Owens

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Speaker 1: has been a vocal critic of Israel, going so far

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Speaker 1: as to suggest, in a not so veiled anti Semitic trope,

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Speaker 1: according to media, that the Jewish state is controlling US

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Speaker 1: foreign policy. She posted recently on x this was a

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Speaker 1: week ago recently, our foreign policy is dictated by Israel.

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Speaker 1: Trump will continue to do as he is told by

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Speaker 1: Nettan Yahoo. If you want to know what America will do,

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Speaker 1: spare yourself the fake White House press briefings and start

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Speaker 1: listening to bb We are a colony of Israel. Your

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Speaker 1: politicians are bought and paid for. Candace Owens, she knows

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Speaker 1: what she's talking about, says Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith.

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Speaker 1: I know this is the whole Stephen A. Smith rant.

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Speaker 1: I will not do my Stephen A. Smith impression. It's

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Speaker 1: bad enough that Stephen A. Smith does a Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith impression. I know that some of you out there

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Speaker 1: may not have wanted to hear a damn thing that

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Speaker 1: Candace Owens had to say, but four plus millions subscribed

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Speaker 1: to her listen to every chance they get. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of cannibals in the world too.

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Speaker 1: You could say that we need to listen to the

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Speaker 1: cannibals as well. Not everybody in America or this world

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Speaker 1: for that matter, can say that what she says matters.

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Speaker 1: And a lot more often than not, she seems to

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Speaker 1: know what the hell she's talking about. It's very rare

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Speaker 1: you hear somebody says she's clueless. She doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: she's saying. She's clueless, Steve, she doesn't know what she's saying.

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Speaker 1: She could not. I would not bet on her passing

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Speaker 1: a Saturday test. She does not. You do not have

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Speaker 1: to hand it to her to borrow the wind expression.

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Speaker 1: She seems to know what the hell she's talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's very rare you hear somebody says she's clueless, she

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Speaker 1: don't know what she's saying. You don't hear that about her.

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Speaker 1: You want to refute what she has to say and

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Speaker 1: defy her positions. You better know what you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: because she certainly does usually, if not always. That's why

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Speaker 1: I had on the show, Stephen, this is who you

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Speaker 1: keep endorsing the time. She discussed Adolf Hitler's nationalism at

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Speaker 1: the Turning Point USA event in London in February twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen and said quote, I actually don't have any problems

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Speaker 1: at all with the word nationalism. I think that the

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Speaker 1: definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism

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Speaker 1: is what I don't want. Whenever we say nationalism, the

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Speaker 1: first thing people think about, at least in America is Hitler.

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Speaker 1: This is the woman Stephen A. Smith what says knows

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Speaker 1: what she's talking about. Owens went on Hitler was a

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Speaker 1: national socialist, adding quote, but if Hitler just wanted to

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Speaker 1: make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that he wanted he had dreams outside

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Speaker 1: of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to

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Speaker 1: be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look

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Speaker 1: a different way. To me, that's not nationalism, simple, I

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Speaker 1: think acceptable admittable translation. Owens thought that whatever Hitler did

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Speaker 1: inside Germany was great. The word she was great. Just

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Speaker 1: wanted to make Germany great by killing everybody. Well, ok, fine, ok, fine,

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Speaker 1: she said. Last March, Candace Owens liked a post on

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Speaker 1: x in which a user asked a rabbi if he

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Speaker 1: was quote drunk on Christian blood. This is who stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith says. She seems to know what the hell she's

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Speaker 1: talking about. In fact, she does not seem to know

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Speaker 1: what the hell she's talking about. It's the exact opposite,

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Speaker 1: stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith.

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Speaker 1: You are aligning yourself with a woman who was fired

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Speaker 1: by some of the worst people in the Fascist rite

657
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Speaker 1: for but they called her disgraceful language about Jewish people.

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Speaker 1: Even the Anti Defamation League said she has been pushing

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Speaker 1: a quote anti Semitic agenda. This, Steven, is who you

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Speaker 1: are gradually gluing yourself to. Candace Owens will destroy your career,

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Speaker 1: not just your political aspirations or your political commentary aspirations,

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Speaker 1: or your idea that there should be a Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith's store in every city or whatever is next. This

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Speaker 1: is going to destroy what you already have. Flee, Please flee,

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Speaker 1: get away from Candace Owens. Get away from politics. You

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Speaker 1: have an innate instinct as strong as your instinct for

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Speaker 1: what makes good TV sports. You have an innate instinct

668
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Speaker 1: for picking exactly the wrong person to sidle up to

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Speaker 1: and to join yourself to glue to at your hip.

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Speaker 1: You are going to destroy yourself, and if you don't,

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Speaker 1: she will destroy you for you. This ends with ESPN

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Speaker 1: having no choice but to fire you and nobody else

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Speaker 1: being willing to hire you. Flea get away from candae

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Speaker 1: Owns as fast as you possibly can. Steven A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: Today's other God help us, worst person in the world.

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Speaker 2: Please, please please.

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Speaker 1: So let's conclude this all new edition of Countdown on

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Speaker 1: Iran Day with an all new edition of Things I

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Speaker 1: Promised Not to Tell, And I'll give you the background

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Speaker 1: to this first. I was as I prepared this episode,

681
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Speaker 1: listening to a baseball game telecast, an unsurprising event if

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Speaker 1: this is later than the year nineteen sixty seven, and

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00:47:01,835 --> 00:47:05,955
Speaker 1: I just checked the calendar and it is. So this

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00:47:06,115 --> 00:47:07,955
Speaker 1: is what was going on in the background as I

685
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Speaker 1: tried to make some sense of what Trump has done

686
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Speaker 1: in Iran to the number one story on the Countdown

687
00:47:13,595 --> 00:47:16,195
Speaker 1: and Things I Promised Not to Tell, my favorite topic

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Speaker 1: me and general knowledge that it turns out, is not

689
00:47:20,595 --> 00:47:25,195
Speaker 1: general knowledge, but should be about dreams, particularly anxiety dreams.

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Speaker 1: Trust me on this, because I've spent a good deal

691
00:47:28,475 --> 00:47:31,795
Speaker 1: of money on this in the relentless pursuit of what's

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00:47:31,835 --> 00:47:36,635
Speaker 1: going on inside my head between my ears by legions

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Speaker 1: of analysts over the years. They have come up with

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Speaker 1: very few correct answers, or very few answers at all.

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Speaker 1: You can imagine the travails involved in trying to do

696
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Speaker 1: this in any event, one of the things that they

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00:47:49,835 --> 00:47:53,915
Speaker 1: won in particular, and I have come up with something

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00:47:54,075 --> 00:47:59,795
Speaker 1: about these dreams, recurring anxiety dreams. I'm listening to my

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Speaker 1: friend Jason Bennetti, one of the best baseball broadcasters there is,

700
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Speaker 1: doing the Detroit Tigers game with his partner on the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: Dan Petrie. Jason's also very good, apparently among the best

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Speaker 1: in other sports like basketball and football, But I don't

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Speaker 1: get paid to watch basketball or football, and those are

704
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Speaker 1: the only circumstances under which I will watch them. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have to take his word for it

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Speaker 1: that he's good at those two. But I know he's

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Speaker 1: excellent in baseball, and I will always watch again. He

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Speaker 1: is doing, and Dan Petrie is excellent too. And I

709
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Speaker 1: happen to know Dan Petrie since the late seventies when

710
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Speaker 1: he was a pitcher for the Detroit Tigers. Not very well,

711
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Speaker 1: but enough probably that he might remember if I told

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Speaker 1: the story of when we met. And I know of

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Speaker 1: his son, National Hockey League defenseman. He had a niece

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Speaker 1: I knew, who was a swimmer at UCLA, A big

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Speaker 1: athletic family from southern California, and roughly my contemporary. I

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Speaker 1: think Dan is like two months older than I am,

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Speaker 1: So when I met him, I was a fledgling reporter

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Speaker 1: and photographer who posed him for some baseball card photos

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty something like that. In any event, Dan

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Speaker 1: revealed towards the end of his broadcast, as I was

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Speaker 1: preparing this edition of Countdown, he revealed that he has

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Speaker 1: had a recurring dream that he still has even though

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Speaker 1: his last game in the major leagues was more than

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Speaker 1: thirty years ago. And he has this dream in which

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Speaker 1: the anthem is playing. He is at his cubicle, his locker,

726
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Speaker 1: somewhere in the clubhouse. He's not sure where he is.

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Speaker 1: It may be in Detroit. He's not sure he's playing

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Speaker 1: for the Tigers. He's not sure where the stadium is.

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Speaker 1: He's not sure of anything except he is just starting

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Speaker 1: to get dressed and they are playing the anthem, and

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Speaker 1: he is the starting pitcher. You do not have to

732
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Speaker 1: understand anything about baseball to understand that this is the

733
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Speaker 1: standard I'm late dream, and to have it again and

734
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Speaker 1: again and again references one thing in particular, which is

735
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Speaker 1: the number of times that you have had to go

736
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Speaker 1: through one thousand deadlines to get to your job. The

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Speaker 1: first deadline is to be there when your job starts.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a dream in which something keeps

739
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Speaker 1: you from getting to the store part of your job,

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Speaker 1: it is essentially PTSD light. You have had this actual

741
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Speaker 1: experience of worrying. Boy, I hope I get to the

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Speaker 1: ballpark in time, four hours before the game. Boy, I

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Speaker 1: hope I get my bullpen routine done, thirty five minutes

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Speaker 1: before the game. Boy, I hope we get the game

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Speaker 1: started at in time. Boy, I hope I'm out there

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Speaker 1: for the anthem. Boy, I hope I don't have to

747
00:50:27,595 --> 00:50:29,915
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. Boy, I hope I haven't misplaced

748
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Speaker 1: my glove. Well, in the dream, of course, all of

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Speaker 1: these things happen Petrie relates that in the dream, he

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Speaker 1: can't find his spikes. All he has is a shirt

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Speaker 1: and maybe some baseball pants. There's no uniform, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have his glove, he hasn't warmed up there playing the anthem,

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Speaker 1: and there's no way he's going to get onto the

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Speaker 1: field for his first pitch, let alone warm up or

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Speaker 1: any of the other rituals beforehand. It is straight, strict anxiety.

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Speaker 1: But there's a twist to it, as I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: explain to this by text, this whole story about how

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Speaker 1: I have had similar dreams about college graduation. It's college

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Speaker 1: graduation morning, it's five minutes to graduation. I have forgotten

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Speaker 1: an entire course which almost actually happened. So there's a

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Speaker 1: real reason for it. There's a reason it's burned into

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Speaker 1: my mind since nineteen seventy nine. There's a real reason

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Speaker 1: for it. But it doesn't have to have that reason.

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Speaker 1: Most people have a dream just like this. You're going

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Speaker 1: to do something normal or planned, or something you've done

766
00:51:39,355 --> 00:51:42,715
Speaker 1: a thousand times, and for some reason you can't get there.

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Speaker 1: One of the reporters in the Tiger broadcast then related

768
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Speaker 1: that she has the dream in which she's hitting a baseball,

769
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Speaker 1: and then she hits the baseball successfully, but can't move

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Speaker 1: her legs. She can't run. Everybody's had the can't run dream,

771
00:51:57,155 --> 00:52:02,355
Speaker 1: they can't move dream. It's all of the same core

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Speaker 1: with a twist. As I am relating this and Jason

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00:52:07,755 --> 00:52:09,355
Speaker 1: Bennette says, do you mind if I mention this on

774
00:52:09,435 --> 00:52:12,715
Speaker 1: the air to me by text because it'll make Dan

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00:52:12,755 --> 00:52:15,195
Speaker 1: feel a little less shaken by recounting his own dream,

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Speaker 1: I say, sure, go ahead, he says. Frank Tanana, who

777
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Speaker 1: was a contemporary of both mine as a photographer and

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00:52:22,355 --> 00:52:25,715
Speaker 1: reporter and Petres as a pitcher for the Detroit Tigers,

779
00:52:25,715 --> 00:52:27,555
Speaker 1: and was a very famous pitcher in the American League

780
00:52:27,635 --> 00:52:30,635
Speaker 1: for a good long time, possibly the hardest thrower, certainly

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Speaker 1: among left handed pitchers in the American League in the

782
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies. Frank Tanana texts Dan Petrie in the booth

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Speaker 1: and says, I have the same dream, only my shoes.

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00:52:40,075 --> 00:52:42,555
Speaker 1: The shoelaces on my shoes are tied together, and I

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00:52:42,595 --> 00:52:48,395
Speaker 1: can't stand. And I would suspect every athlete has had

786
00:52:48,395 --> 00:52:53,435
Speaker 1: a dream in which something incredibly mundane prevents you from

787
00:52:53,475 --> 00:52:56,435
Speaker 1: starting the game. Never mind the thousand things you have

788
00:52:56,555 --> 00:52:58,955
Speaker 1: to do that only you can do that had propelled

789
00:52:58,995 --> 00:53:03,995
Speaker 1: you to fame and fortune, or at least fortune. Never

790
00:53:04,035 --> 00:53:06,475
Speaker 1: mind those tough things. The easy one, like getting there

791
00:53:06,475 --> 00:53:11,195
Speaker 1: when it's supposed to start, has failed you or you

792
00:53:11,235 --> 00:53:14,395
Speaker 1: have been prevented by by reasons you don't fully understand.

793
00:53:14,635 --> 00:53:17,955
Speaker 1: And you have this dream while you're playing, and then

794
00:53:17,955 --> 00:53:20,435
Speaker 1: in the years afterwards, and it makes perfect sense, because

795
00:53:20,475 --> 00:53:22,875
Speaker 1: these rituals are burned into your mind and they're so

796
00:53:23,755 --> 00:53:29,035
Speaker 1: heart of the structure that deadlines, that rules everybody's life,

797
00:53:29,195 --> 00:53:31,315
Speaker 1: that you don't even think of them anymore, and they

798
00:53:31,355 --> 00:53:34,995
Speaker 1: come out in dreams because you worry. You worry unconsciously,

799
00:53:35,075 --> 00:53:37,075
Speaker 1: which is what a dream is, after all. You worry

800
00:53:37,155 --> 00:53:43,555
Speaker 1: unconsciously about not getting it done on time. So now

801
00:53:43,595 --> 00:53:47,355
Speaker 1: we have two Detroit Tigers pictures of the nineteen eighties

802
00:53:47,755 --> 00:53:51,395
Speaker 1: telling essentially of the same dream that they've had, and

803
00:53:51,555 --> 00:53:53,915
Speaker 1: me with the I'm not going to graduate on time

804
00:53:54,035 --> 00:53:58,595
Speaker 1: or the more recent version which I had two days

805
00:53:58,635 --> 00:54:02,035
Speaker 1: before this broadcast that I'm hearing. When they're talking about

806
00:54:02,115 --> 00:54:04,955
Speaker 1: Dan Petrie not being able to find his shoes, they're

807
00:54:04,955 --> 00:54:09,835
Speaker 1: playing the anthem I had. The Sports Center is starting

808
00:54:09,875 --> 00:54:12,475
Speaker 1: in five minutes. Dream and you have at least half

809
00:54:12,555 --> 00:54:14,595
Speaker 1: an hour worth of writing to do, and you're not

810
00:54:14,715 --> 00:54:18,035
Speaker 1: in the studio, or you have a stage manager from

811
00:54:18,075 --> 00:54:21,035
Speaker 1: any one of a million different broadcasts, and in the dream,

812
00:54:21,035 --> 00:54:25,795
Speaker 1: it's always the real person. It's Jackie from MSNBC. It's

813
00:54:25,875 --> 00:54:28,235
Speaker 1: one of the guys from Fox. It's one of the

814
00:54:28,275 --> 00:54:31,835
Speaker 1: guys from ESPN, it's one of the guys from Channel

815
00:54:31,875 --> 00:54:33,635
Speaker 1: two in Los Angeles, it's one of the guys from

816
00:54:33,715 --> 00:54:36,755
Speaker 1: Channel five in Boston. And suddenly they point at you

817
00:54:36,835 --> 00:54:39,475
Speaker 1: and go five four three, two one, and you don't

818
00:54:39,475 --> 00:54:42,995
Speaker 1: even know what the broadcast is. I once had the dream,

819
00:54:43,155 --> 00:54:46,475
Speaker 1: and it was the inauguration of President Obama in the dream,

820
00:54:47,035 --> 00:54:49,675
Speaker 1: and I didn't know where I was, what network I

821
00:54:49,795 --> 00:54:53,315
Speaker 1: was on, And only because I saw the graphic over

822
00:54:53,355 --> 00:54:55,595
Speaker 1: this guy's shoulder did I know it was the inauguration

823
00:54:55,635 --> 00:54:57,475
Speaker 1: of a president. And I was not prepared. It is

824
00:54:57,515 --> 00:55:01,395
Speaker 1: the you're late, You're being prevented, You're not prepared. It's

825
00:55:01,475 --> 00:55:04,715
Speaker 1: all of the standard issue anxieties that you actually we

826
00:55:04,915 --> 00:55:08,795
Speaker 1: go through and try to prevent with an ordinary checklist

827
00:55:08,835 --> 00:55:11,675
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind every time you do

828
00:55:11,795 --> 00:55:14,475
Speaker 1: whatever you do, every time you ever did it, even

829
00:55:14,515 --> 00:55:16,875
Speaker 1: if you're not doing it anymore, even if you're thirty

830
00:55:16,955 --> 00:55:19,915
Speaker 1: years removed from having done it the last time. But

831
00:55:19,995 --> 00:55:22,435
Speaker 1: there's a twist to it, which I tried to convey

832
00:55:22,475 --> 00:55:26,275
Speaker 1: to mister Petrie and through him to mister Tanana, who,

833
00:55:26,275 --> 00:55:29,315
Speaker 1: by the way, Frank Tanana was probably the nicest guy

834
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Speaker 1: to the Scrubini reporters and photographers of nineteen seventy six

835
00:55:34,395 --> 00:55:38,235
Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty two that we ever knew. Everybody said

836
00:55:38,235 --> 00:55:40,755
Speaker 1: the same thing. Didn't matter if he was pitching that day,

837
00:55:40,795 --> 00:55:46,075
Speaker 1: when most pitchers just go into this semi psychotic state.

838
00:55:46,395 --> 00:55:49,155
Speaker 1: This fugue, don't talk to me, don't look at me.

839
00:55:49,435 --> 00:55:52,275
Speaker 1: You're interrupting my rituals. If you don't get out of

840
00:55:52,315 --> 00:55:54,755
Speaker 1: my way, I'll be stuck in my locker and they'll be

841
00:55:54,755 --> 00:55:57,315
Speaker 1: playing the anthem and my shoes will be tied together.

842
00:55:57,555 --> 00:55:59,955
Speaker 1: They gave off that kind of vibe. Frank Tanana never

843
00:55:59,995 --> 00:56:04,075
Speaker 1: did that. Frank Tanana once asked me about the camera

844
00:56:04,115 --> 00:56:06,475
Speaker 1: I was using, and I looked at him, and it

845
00:56:06,515 --> 00:56:08,315
Speaker 1: was half an hour before the game was supposed to

846
00:56:08,355 --> 00:56:10,235
Speaker 1: start at Yankee Stadium, and he was pitching for the

847
00:56:10,235 --> 00:56:13,275
Speaker 1: California Angels, and I said, aren't you pitching today. He went, yeah,

848
00:56:13,355 --> 00:56:15,635
Speaker 1: half an hour or so. I said, what about He goes, Oh,

849
00:56:15,635 --> 00:56:17,035
Speaker 1: I don't go for any of that. Don't talk to

850
00:56:17,075 --> 00:56:19,075
Speaker 1: the pitcherer thing. He asked me about the camera and

851
00:56:19,075 --> 00:56:20,955
Speaker 1: then he posed for me and he went out and

852
00:56:20,995 --> 00:56:25,955
Speaker 1: he threw eight innings of two hit baseball against Catfish

853
00:56:25,995 --> 00:56:29,795
Speaker 1: Hunter and the Yankees same day. So that's another psychological issue.

854
00:56:29,795 --> 00:56:34,475
Speaker 1: But the thing that twists this. Frank Tanana is about

855
00:56:34,475 --> 00:56:38,635
Speaker 1: five years my elder. Dan Petrie is about two months

856
00:56:38,635 --> 00:56:41,075
Speaker 1: my elder. We are more or less, although it would

857
00:56:41,115 --> 00:56:43,355
Speaker 1: have been different then because they were Major League baseball

858
00:56:43,355 --> 00:56:46,235
Speaker 1: players and I was a rookie radio reporter or a

859
00:56:46,355 --> 00:56:52,995
Speaker 1: trivial figure in sportscasting, or a photographer completely fungible those days.

860
00:56:52,995 --> 00:56:55,155
Speaker 1: There was a big difference then. Now we are all

861
00:56:55,275 --> 00:57:00,235
Speaker 1: in the same demographic. We are contemporaries, and I wanted

862
00:57:00,275 --> 00:57:02,835
Speaker 1: to explain to them and to anybody else who has

863
00:57:02,915 --> 00:57:05,995
Speaker 1: this dream or a dream like it, the I can't

864
00:57:06,035 --> 00:57:08,235
Speaker 1: get to what I'm supposed to do dream, Even though

865
00:57:08,275 --> 00:57:10,755
Speaker 1: I haven't had to do this for thirty years or

866
00:57:10,835 --> 00:57:14,195
Speaker 1: ten years or whatever. I have an added bit of insight,

867
00:57:15,835 --> 00:57:24,195
Speaker 1: particularly the dream about not graduating on time lingered with

868
00:57:24,235 --> 00:57:28,795
Speaker 1: me on at best a once a month basis till

869
00:57:28,835 --> 00:57:32,155
Speaker 1: about a year and a half two years ago. It

870
00:57:32,195 --> 00:57:35,595
Speaker 1: would always be updated. I would have to quit whatever

871
00:57:35,675 --> 00:57:38,555
Speaker 1: job I had and go back to school because I

872
00:57:38,595 --> 00:57:40,995
Speaker 1: had forgotten a course. I didn't make it to graduation.

873
00:57:42,035 --> 00:57:46,715
Speaker 1: Something something, something happened. Under the worst pressure and stress

874
00:57:46,755 --> 00:57:49,915
Speaker 1: of my career, I had this dream and I was

875
00:57:49,995 --> 00:57:53,275
Speaker 1: sent back, not to start college all over again, or

876
00:57:53,355 --> 00:57:55,515
Speaker 1: high school. I was sent back to the fourth grade.

877
00:57:55,595 --> 00:57:58,395
Speaker 1: I was now going to have to do eight years

878
00:57:58,755 --> 00:58:01,715
Speaker 1: of grammar and high school and then go back to college.

879
00:58:01,755 --> 00:58:05,675
Speaker 1: I had sixteen years penalty against me. I was being

880
00:58:05,675 --> 00:58:08,155
Speaker 1: sent back to the fourth grade as an adult. I

881
00:58:08,195 --> 00:58:10,155
Speaker 1: went into the classroom and had to sit in one

882
00:58:10,155 --> 00:58:12,835
Speaker 1: of the little kids chairs, and I didn't fit into

883
00:58:12,835 --> 00:58:17,515
Speaker 1: the little kids chairs. When I was in the fourth grade,

884
00:58:17,675 --> 00:58:21,635
Speaker 1: I finally thought when I had this dream, and I

885
00:58:21,675 --> 00:58:28,435
Speaker 1: suggested to my therapist, wait a minute, this dream doesn't

886
00:58:28,595 --> 00:58:30,915
Speaker 1: bother me the way it used to. It used to

887
00:58:30,955 --> 00:58:33,195
Speaker 1: really upset me and wake me, and I'd say, why

888
00:58:33,235 --> 00:58:37,795
Speaker 1: am I still having this dream. I graduated and in

889
00:58:37,835 --> 00:58:40,115
Speaker 1: the one dream, this one time when it didn't bother me,

890
00:58:40,195 --> 00:58:42,915
Speaker 1: I went back to the registrar's office and said, no,

891
00:58:42,995 --> 00:58:46,955
Speaker 1: I graduated, what's wrong with you people? And then I

892
00:58:46,995 --> 00:58:49,075
Speaker 1: had the dream again and it was kind of kind

893
00:58:49,115 --> 00:58:52,075
Speaker 1: of nostalgic and pleasant. And that's when it dawned on

894
00:58:52,115 --> 00:58:55,235
Speaker 1: me when I almost didn't graduate on time. And in

895
00:58:55,275 --> 00:58:58,755
Speaker 1: the dreams, every one of the dreams, I'm twenty years old,

896
00:58:59,315 --> 00:59:02,475
Speaker 1: or at worse, it's I'm forty years old, and for

897
00:59:02,555 --> 00:59:06,835
Speaker 1: some reason we're replaying graduation day. And the point ultimately

898
00:59:07,035 --> 00:59:09,115
Speaker 1: is this, and it may be the point for every

899
00:59:09,235 --> 00:59:12,355
Speaker 1: Dan Petrie and Frank Tanana out there who's having the

900
00:59:12,755 --> 00:59:16,315
Speaker 1: My shoelaces are tied. Oh good, in your dream, you

901
00:59:16,395 --> 00:59:19,155
Speaker 1: have shoelaces. In my dream, I can't find my shoes

902
00:59:19,195 --> 00:59:24,155
Speaker 1: at all. I don't know what broadcast I'm doing. I

903
00:59:24,195 --> 00:59:26,435
Speaker 1: don't know how I'm going to get to graduation. The

904
00:59:26,515 --> 00:59:29,835
Speaker 1: point is when you did this, when it actually happened

905
00:59:29,835 --> 00:59:32,355
Speaker 1: in real life, when this pressure was on you, you

906
00:59:32,435 --> 00:59:37,195
Speaker 1: were thirty years old, twenty five years old, twenty years old.

907
00:59:38,195 --> 00:59:42,475
Speaker 1: If you comb down into the baseline of your life, yes,

908
00:59:43,035 --> 00:59:46,035
Speaker 1: there are things that have been accomplished in the ensuing

909
00:59:46,315 --> 00:59:50,555
Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty years since the occasion of the reality

910
00:59:50,555 --> 00:59:53,835
Speaker 1: that is at the heart of this dream. There are

911
00:59:53,835 --> 00:59:56,275
Speaker 1: many things you would never trade for anything in the world,

912
00:59:56,635 --> 01:00:00,195
Speaker 1: or anything impossible in the world. You would not trade

913
01:00:00,235 --> 01:00:05,235
Speaker 1: these things for eternal life, family experiences, loved ones, whatever.

914
01:00:06,715 --> 01:00:10,435
Speaker 1: On the other hand, if you had a dream, and

915
01:00:10,635 --> 01:00:13,355
Speaker 1: in that dream you were offered the opportunity to be

916
01:00:14,035 --> 01:00:17,635
Speaker 1: twenty years old again, or thirty years old again, or hell,

917
01:00:17,675 --> 01:00:20,035
Speaker 1: by the time you get to my age, fifty years

918
01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:24,955
Speaker 1: old again, guess what you'd take it, especially if you

919
01:00:24,955 --> 01:00:27,395
Speaker 1: could bring all the good stuff of today with you

920
01:00:27,755 --> 01:00:30,675
Speaker 1: back to your new second shot at twenty years old.

921
01:00:30,795 --> 01:00:34,475
Speaker 1: A very simple reason, you're now no longer that close.

922
01:00:34,595 --> 01:00:38,995
Speaker 1: You are thirty years less close to the end. It's

923
01:00:38,995 --> 01:00:41,995
Speaker 1: not more complicated than that. At some point, the dream

924
01:00:42,115 --> 01:00:47,355
Speaker 1: stops being a terror dream full of life's ordinary, poisonous,

925
01:00:47,675 --> 01:00:55,275
Speaker 1: mind blowing, disastrous, terrifying, mundane deadlines. At some point it

926
01:00:55,355 --> 01:01:01,035
Speaker 1: becomes a nostalgic dream. Oh, I'd love to go back

927
01:01:01,035 --> 01:01:04,555
Speaker 1: to Cornell and spend another semester there and be twenty.

928
01:01:05,435 --> 01:01:07,715
Speaker 1: I'd go to the worst college in the world and

929
01:01:07,795 --> 01:01:11,875
Speaker 1: be twenty. I wouldn't be in college at all, I'd

930
01:01:11,995 --> 01:01:15,835
Speaker 1: be in high school at twenty and be twenty. It's

931
01:01:15,875 --> 01:01:16,715
Speaker 1: not complicated.

932
01:01:17,075 --> 01:01:17,635
Speaker 2: It's not an.

933
01:01:17,595 --> 01:01:22,235
Speaker 1: Indictment of your current life. It's part of that hope

934
01:01:22,275 --> 01:01:25,355
Speaker 1: and survival instinct we all need to keep going every day,

935
01:01:25,595 --> 01:01:31,475
Speaker 1: especially now. So if you have this dream, you know,

936
01:01:32,635 --> 01:01:35,435
Speaker 1: just roll with it. Enjoy the idea that you're twenty

937
01:01:35,475 --> 01:01:38,075
Speaker 1: again or thirty, or you're still pitching in the major

938
01:01:38,155 --> 01:01:40,835
Speaker 1: leagues and you can't find your shoes, because trust me,

939
01:01:41,075 --> 01:01:43,195
Speaker 1: pitching in the major leagues without being able to find

940
01:01:43,195 --> 01:01:46,635
Speaker 1: your shoes or finding your shoelaces tied together is better

941
01:01:47,515 --> 01:01:50,235
Speaker 1: than A never pitching in the major leagues or b

942
01:01:50,715 --> 01:01:54,195
Speaker 1: having pitched in the major leagues thirty five years ago.

943
01:01:56,315 --> 01:02:00,635
Speaker 1: Just as not graduating on time but coming close today

944
01:02:01,115 --> 01:02:03,915
Speaker 1: is better than not graduating on time but coming close.

945
01:02:03,955 --> 01:02:10,955
Speaker 1: Oh you did grad wait on time? Whoa fifty years ago?

946
01:02:12,355 --> 01:02:15,435
Speaker 1: And I have one PostScript to this. Frank Tanana, the

947
01:02:15,515 --> 01:02:19,195
Speaker 1: second baseball pitcher, as I said, did not go in

948
01:02:19,235 --> 01:02:20,955
Speaker 1: for any of you. Do not talk to the pitcher

949
01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:26,995
Speaker 1: the day that I talked to him now twenty minutes

950
01:02:27,035 --> 01:02:29,555
Speaker 1: before his start, and he's just sitting there tossing the

951
01:02:29,555 --> 01:02:31,755
Speaker 1: baseball in the air, and said, sure, I'll pose for you.

952
01:02:32,595 --> 01:02:35,435
Speaker 1: That day he was facing the future Hall of Famer

953
01:02:35,515 --> 01:02:39,035
Speaker 1: Jim Catfish Hunter the New York Yankees, and he went

954
01:02:39,075 --> 01:02:42,355
Speaker 1: out and threw two hit ball over eight innings and

955
01:02:42,475 --> 01:02:45,635
Speaker 1: totally mesmerized the New York Yankees. There was one out

956
01:02:45,635 --> 01:02:47,195
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the ninth inning. I stayed for

957
01:02:47,235 --> 01:02:50,795
Speaker 1: the game and was watching it. The California Angels, behind

958
01:02:50,795 --> 01:02:54,755
Speaker 1: Frank Tanana's flaw was pitching, were leading eight to nothing,

959
01:02:54,995 --> 01:02:56,835
Speaker 1: eight to nothing with one out in the bottom of

960
01:02:56,875 --> 01:03:00,395
Speaker 1: the ninth inning, Frank Tanana mesmerizing the Yankees. The stadium

961
01:03:00,395 --> 01:03:03,075
Speaker 1: half empty from fans who gave up in disgust, and

962
01:03:03,155 --> 01:03:05,835
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking, boy, oh boy, pictures really don't

963
01:03:05,835 --> 01:03:08,595
Speaker 1: need to be sequestered before a start. He's absolutely right.

964
01:03:09,435 --> 01:03:11,115
Speaker 1: One out in the bottom of the ninth inning, two

965
01:03:11,115 --> 01:03:13,555
Speaker 1: outs to go for a two hit shutout, and Frank

966
01:03:13,555 --> 01:03:19,675
Speaker 1: Tinana proceeded to give up eight runs and did not

967
01:03:20,155 --> 01:03:23,115
Speaker 1: win the ballgame, and the game went to extra innings.

968
01:03:23,155 --> 01:03:27,075
Speaker 1: Because as I always thought thereafter, not only to starting

969
01:03:27,115 --> 01:03:31,235
Speaker 1: pitchers wisely not talk to anybody before the game, but

970
01:03:31,315 --> 01:03:34,355
Speaker 1: certainly if they're really smart, they don't talk to some

971
01:03:34,555 --> 01:03:38,195
Speaker 1: wise ass seventeen year old photographer who asks them to

972
01:03:38,275 --> 01:03:55,915
Speaker 1: pose for bubblegum card pictures. The Angels, by the way,

973
01:03:55,955 --> 01:03:57,915
Speaker 1: won that game and like the eleventh inning anyway, So

974
01:03:57,955 --> 01:04:00,195
Speaker 1: the Yankee comeback came to nought. But boy, oh boy,

975
01:04:00,315 --> 01:04:04,515
Speaker 1: was that an instructional evidence story for me at seven.

976
01:04:05,835 --> 01:04:07,515
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'll be fine. I can talk to you

977
01:04:07,555 --> 01:04:09,275
Speaker 1: before the game. He gave up eight runs in the

978
01:04:09,275 --> 01:04:12,475
Speaker 1: bottom of the ninth inning. For you youngsters, this is

979
01:04:12,475 --> 01:04:14,555
Speaker 1: when a starting pitcher would still be pitching in the

980
01:04:14,555 --> 01:04:19,115
Speaker 1: bottom of the ninth inning. I know it's like before electricity.

981
01:04:20,675 --> 01:04:22,555
Speaker 1: In fact, everything was still in black and white in

982
01:04:22,595 --> 01:04:28,955
Speaker 1: those days nineteen seventy six. So the gist of this is,

983
01:04:29,555 --> 01:04:32,795
Speaker 1: at some point, your worst fears, in your worst dreams

984
01:04:33,075 --> 01:04:36,035
Speaker 1: simply become nostalgia for the idea that it was better

985
01:04:36,075 --> 01:04:39,035
Speaker 1: when you were twenty years old. I've done all the

986
01:04:39,115 --> 01:04:41,115
Speaker 1: damage I can do here. Thank you for listening to

987
01:04:41,155 --> 01:04:44,795
Speaker 1: an old man complaining about being an old man. Most

988
01:04:44,835 --> 01:04:47,395
Speaker 1: of our Countdown music was arranged, produced, and performed by

989
01:04:47,435 --> 01:04:50,675
Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Phillip Shanel, our musical directors of Countdown.

990
01:04:50,995 --> 01:04:54,715
Speaker 1: It was produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Ray on guitars,

991
01:04:54,755 --> 01:04:58,835
Speaker 1: bass and drums, Mister Chaneale handling, orchestration and keyboards. Our

992
01:04:58,955 --> 01:05:02,235
Speaker 1: satirical and pithy musical comments are by the best baseball

993
01:05:02,275 --> 01:05:06,435
Speaker 1: stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. The Olberman theme from ESPN

994
01:05:06,475 --> 01:05:09,955
Speaker 1: two was written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN, Inc.

995
01:05:10,275 --> 01:05:13,715
Speaker 1: That is the sports music. Other music arranged and performed

996
01:05:13,755 --> 01:05:16,635
Speaker 1: by the group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today is

997
01:05:16,675 --> 01:05:21,275
Speaker 1: my friend Tony Kornheiser. The dream sequence was orchestrated by

998
01:05:21,475 --> 01:05:26,075
Speaker 1: Jason Bennetti and Dan Petrie. Everything else was, as always

999
01:05:26,515 --> 01:05:31,315
Speaker 1: my fault. I hope that provided some levity under the circumstances.

1000
01:05:31,475 --> 01:05:33,955
Speaker 1: That's countdown for today, day one hundred and fifty four.

1001
01:05:33,995 --> 01:05:37,675
Speaker 1: If America held hostage just three hundred and ten days

1002
01:05:37,755 --> 01:05:41,315
Speaker 1: until the scheduled end of Trump's lame duck lame brained term,

1003
01:05:41,795 --> 01:05:45,635
Speaker 1: unless Putin or Musk remove him sooner, or the actuarial

1004
01:05:45,675 --> 01:05:49,235
Speaker 1: tables do, or we do. Remember he did it ran

1005
01:05:49,715 --> 01:05:54,555
Speaker 1: because he thinks it will help him politically. Any strategic result,

1006
01:05:54,635 --> 01:05:59,275
Speaker 1: good or bad, is an accident of coincidence. The next

1007
01:05:59,275 --> 01:06:02,555
Speaker 1: scheduled countdown is Thursday. Until the next one. I'm Keith Olberman.

1008
01:06:02,635 --> 01:06:24,355
Speaker 1: Good morning, Good afternoon, good Night, and good Luck. Countdown

1009
01:06:24,435 --> 01:06:28,155
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1010
01:06:28,275 --> 01:06:33,195
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