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Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater only on the Jubile Show.

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Speaker 2: Gwinn is on the phone today for to Catch a

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Speaker 2: Cheater and she's been married to her husband John for

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Speaker 2: two years, but now she thinks something might be going on,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see if we can help her out.

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Speaker 3: Gwinn, what's going on? Why do you think your husbands cheating?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's been you know, a good two years so far,

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Speaker 4: and I've got.

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Speaker 1: A clothing business that's really just taken off, so I

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Speaker 1: can spend.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of time at home.

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Speaker 1: And my husband, John, he just started culinary school and

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Speaker 1: he's working his butt off and he's always had.

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Speaker 5: A drive for it. He's totally excited about it, and

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Speaker 5: I want to be there to support him in any

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Speaker 5: way I can.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also really glad that I can support him

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Speaker 1: while he finishes school.

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Speaker 5: You know. So again, things have been pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's just that ever since he started these classes in school,

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Speaker 1: she hasn't been necessarily absent when it comes to us,

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Speaker 1: but like a little bit more standoffish, you know, like

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Speaker 1: he's super focused and wants a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: just finishing the school.

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Speaker 5: He wants to just knock it out of.

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Speaker 1: The park and he's just focused on everything other than us,

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Speaker 1: you know. And there's also this you know, other dynamic

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Speaker 1: where there's this girl in this class named April.

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Speaker 5: She's cute, mousey and sort.

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Speaker 4: Of the arts, you know, and I know he likes her.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: She actually came over one night, you know, so they

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Speaker 1: could work on a project for school together, and they

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Speaker 1: made this amazing seared fish and you know.

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Speaker 4: It was really good, so hard to be mad, but

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: While they were cooking together, they seemed a little cozy,

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Speaker 5: It just it's sort of sent off some alarms in

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, that's a little bit too cozy

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Speaker 1: for my taste, you know, get your hands off, my mate.

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Speaker 1: So I let it go, you know, but just decided

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Speaker 1: it's a good idea to.

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Speaker 5: Maybe keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 1: And then I started to notice that he was getting

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Speaker 1: these weird texts at like all hours, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: even late at night. And I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: the jealous type and like immediately jump to conclusion, but

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Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm like, I know

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Speaker 1: it's that girl.

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Speaker 4: I know it is.

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Speaker 5: Oh. So I asked him one night, like where are

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Speaker 5: these texts coming from? Who is this? You know? We

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Speaker 5: were watching a movie and I was like, I can't

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Speaker 5: take it anymore. I just need to know. And he

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Speaker 5: got really annoyed, like she you know.

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Speaker 1: When I asked, he you know, and he's like, look,

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Speaker 1: it's this April. She's got some school stuff she sent

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Speaker 1: me and you know, it's nothing, no big deal. So

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you know again, I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to start a random fight. Didn't want to be like

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Speaker 1: the total jealous type, not just two years into the marriage.

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Speaker 1: But it bothers me so much. And I know him

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Speaker 1: and he loves me, and I don't feel like she

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Speaker 1: would cheat on me. But ever since he started these

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Speaker 5: He's turned into almost a different guy, you know.

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Speaker 6: I just wonder if this is one of those situations

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Speaker 6: and is just kind of trying to make her way in,

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Speaker 6: and maybe she is actually flirting with your man, like

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Speaker 6: your read probably was right. I just I mean, what

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Speaker 6: are the chances you think that your man actually would

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Speaker 6: cross that line? And he probably feels good getting attention

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Speaker 6: from somebody I mean, jubil doesn't it always feel good

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Speaker 6: regardless if you're in a relationship. If somebody's crushing on you.

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Speaker 3: I'm different with that. I don't like it. If they

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Speaker 3: know I'm in a relationship, I don't like it. That's true.

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Speaker 3: It's disrespectful. Okay. I could see that he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't bothered him very much, you know, I mean honestly,

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Speaker 1: like I was just like a wallpaper, I should say.

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Speaker 2: I'm also very unaware if people are flirting with me too,

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Speaker 2: so I wouldn't even probably know.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that your man would know if somebody

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Speaker 6: was flirting with him, Gwen, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't know what I'm flirting with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I'm the same way.

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Speaker 2: So I've been in situations like that before, Like they're

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Speaker 2: flirting with I'm like, what just having a conversation out?

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Speaker 3: Taking my shirt off? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: The woman always know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll see if we can figure it

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Speaker 2: out for you. You told us what grocery store you

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Speaker 2: guys are awards card members at, So we'll play a song,

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Speaker 2: come back and then call him and pretend to be

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Speaker 2: from the grocery store and say that every single month,

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Speaker 2: one random reward card winner gets the free flowers delivered

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Speaker 2: from our flooral department.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if he sends us to you or to April, okay,

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Speaker 3: or to somebody else. Okay, play us.

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Speaker 2: Song, come back, get your to Catch a Cheater next.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of to Catch a Cheater, if

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Speaker 2: you're just joining us, Gwinn is on the phone and

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Speaker 2: she thinks that her husband of two years named John

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Speaker 2: might be cheating. So in a second, we're going to

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Speaker 2: call him and pretend to be from the grocery store

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Speaker 2: that they are awards card members at and say that

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Speaker 2: he's this month's lucky winner of thirty six long stimber

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Speaker 2: red roses to be delivered to anybody that he wants.

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Speaker 2: Will see if he sends him to Gwin, his wife,

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Speaker 2: or to somebody else. But before we do that, Gwinn,

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Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So he started culinary school and he's really into it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's just sort of become a different person,

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Speaker 1: super focused on that, and you know, a little less

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Speaker 1: absence from me and the marriage, so to speak. And

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Speaker 1: there's always a third dynamic. You know, her name is

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Speaker 1: April and she's killed and our say she actually came

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Speaker 1: over one night and they were cooking together, and they

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Speaker 1: were super like communicative with each other, you know, almost physically,

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Speaker 1: to the point where I was like, this could be

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Speaker 1: a problem for me. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: he starts getting these texts at all hours of the night,

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Speaker 1: you know, NonStop.

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Speaker 5: And when I asked him.

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Speaker 1: About it, he got super defensive and like was like,

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Speaker 1: it's no big deal, It's just April blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like he's a different guy and

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Speaker 1: it's sort of suspect.

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Speaker 3: Well, are you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is Jorable calling from I was looking for

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Speaker 2: our Rewards card member name John.

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Speaker 5: I guess this is Hee. What can I do for John?

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Speaker 2: Please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually calling with some good news. Congratulations. Here this

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Speaker 2: month's big winner.

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Speaker 5: Okay, big winner of what?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Every single month you might not know.

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Speaker 2: Every single month, we choose one Rewards Card member at

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Speaker 2: random to say thank you very much for shopping with

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Speaker 2: us and thank you for being such a loyal customer

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Speaker 2: by gifting you thirty six long, slim red roses to

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Speaker 2: fifty United States, and a card to be delivered to

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Speaker 2: anybody that you want.

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Speaker 5: That's great, okay, So, like, do I have to come

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Speaker 5: in or like?

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Speaker 2: That is one option. The other options are if you

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Speaker 2: know who you want to send them to. I can

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Speaker 2: also take the information over the phone.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I absolutely know who I'm going to send

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Speaker 2: Oh great, I've got my form pulled up here. First,

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Speaker 2: I would need the first and last name of the

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Speaker 5: It's going to be cool when.

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Speaker 2: And is there anything you would like to put on

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Speaker 2: a card? Would like to send a card with it?

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Speaker 5: Well, so it's going to my wife.

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Speaker 4: Oh and I.

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Speaker 8: Often describe her to other people as the light of

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Speaker 8: my life for a reason. You know, like she is,

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Speaker 8: she's smart, she's beautiful, she's so supportive of me.

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Speaker 3: You know what happened with me?

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Speaker 2: I was I started taking the culinary school, and then

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Speaker 2: I was this other girl in the class and her

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Speaker 2: and I started getting hot and heavy.

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Speaker 8: Oh goody, I'm actually in culinary school right now.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Ope, her name's not Ah, that's John. This is actually

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Speaker 2: this is actually the Jubil Show. It's a radio show.

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Speaker 2: My name's Jubil. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Nina.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Victoria, and your wife Gwynn is actually on

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show called Got You Cheater?

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Speaker 2: Wherever you think your significant other might be sleeping around,

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Speaker 2: we can try to catch them.

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Speaker 3: So that's what this is.

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Speaker 8: What so you're calling me because do you think my

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Speaker 8: wife is shooting?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I was a little bit nervous because all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you have this friend April.

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Speaker 5: She comes over to the house. You're cozy, cozy all

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Speaker 5: the time, and she sends.

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Speaker 1: You these texts like at weird hours of the night,

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Speaker 1: and you get completely distracted and you're super focused on

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Speaker 5: And I just was a little bit nervous, to be

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Speaker 5: quite honest. Oh sweetie, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 8: I feel real bad that you. I wish you'd come

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Speaker 8: and talk to me about this before we got to it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've asked you about the text before, and

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Speaker 1: I felt like you just kind of were annoyed and

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Speaker 1: blew it off, you know, So, I mean I just

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to think honestly, because we just haven't

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Speaker 1: had much time for each other.

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Speaker 5: And you're, like I said, super focused on school, which

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Speaker 5: is great, but I don't want you to be super

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry if I came across as annoyed when you

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Speaker 8: were asking me about.

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Speaker 5: The text messages.

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Speaker 4: It's embarrassing to admit, but I didn't want you.

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Speaker 8: To feel disappointed in me because I've been throwing behind

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Speaker 8: in class recently, and you know, like you've been so

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Speaker 8: to feel disappointed. So I've been Yeah, I've been talking

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Speaker 8: she's been like a real lifeline.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't be disappointed in you. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: love you, But does April know that she's like a big.

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Speaker 4: Sister I mean beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I mean well, I mean they're gay, so well okay,

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Speaker 5: I mean like like not to put her business out there,

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Speaker 5: but like I'm pretty certain she has no interest in me.

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Speaker 2: Gwyn thought that she was kind of flirting when she

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Speaker 2: saw you guys hanging out.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean like she you know, we've been we're close,

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Speaker 8: but like when you're in the kitchen, like you try

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Speaker 8: to have as much fun as you can, you know,

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Speaker 8: even though it's kind of like an intense environment, you know, so.

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Speaker 5: Like you will get playful, but like we never at

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Speaker 5: least for me, there's never been anything there, is it?

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Speaker 7: John?

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Speaker 3: Your wife, he was really worried.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like again, I feel bad though, because I

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Speaker 8: don't want her to worry about me or with any woman.

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Speaker 5: Oh good, well it sort of changes everything.

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Speaker 1: Knowing you know that apols preferences not men because you know,

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Speaker 1: they just say flirt, but it's not real flirting. So

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Speaker 1: that makes me feel so much better. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's or what's the what's the term I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's not dangerous party platonic. Yeah, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I you know, just doubted you. But the text thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, to like late at night and whatever, and

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Speaker 1: you just get so distracted.

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Speaker 5: It just bothered me.

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Speaker 4: So no, like I.

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Speaker 8: Said, I can, I'll be more than happy to show

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Speaker 8: you the text messages, but they're all just recipes.

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Speaker 5: You know. She's really been to help me carry through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's wrong. Yeah goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if anyone's a danger in the house, it

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Speaker 8: would more likely be you than me.

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Speaker 5: Like she would be a danger because like the girl

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Speaker 5: would come under her and not him.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was saying she was more likely to cheat.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's right, I get it now. It

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Speaker 3: sounds like you guys are going to be.

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Speaker 4: Just fine, I hope.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm sorry, honey.

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Speaker 7: I love you again me to be you know, I

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Speaker 7: didn't want to be that girl, but like I love

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Speaker 7: you and I'm jealous, So yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Love you too.

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Speaker 8: You know, Like I was gonna when I thought this

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Speaker 8: was hard, Flowers, I was going to tell them to

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Speaker 8: write that you're the spice of my life, and I

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Speaker 8: mean that you know, everything about you makes me a

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Speaker 8: better person, make me cry, so you will show to

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Speaker 8: catch a cheater