Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp at Cambridge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod. But as you know, because we are recapping
Speaker 2: Orange County, it's one tea in an a because I'm
Speaker 2: here with Alexia. How are you? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm good. I'm getting homesick. I'm going back to
Speaker 3: Miami tomorrow. I've had a beautiful trip. I've had so
Speaker 3: many friends out here in Europe. I visited Madrid and Paris, London,
Speaker 3: Montenegro and Croatia, which I you recommend. It was just breathtaking.
Speaker 3: And now I went back to Madrid and I'll be
Speaker 3: going home tomorrow. I miss Frankie so much. Sometime to
Speaker 3: get home Frankie and Peter my dog.
Speaker 2: When you're gone. Who who is with Frankie?
Speaker 3: My housekeeper, Gamata and Peter also Peter on the weekends
Speaker 3: has been staying with him, so Peter stays with you know,
Speaker 3: with the housekeeper too, And no, I mean they're good,
Speaker 3: you know, but it's already been like fifteen days so
Speaker 3: that you start really missing each other. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: need to get back home to Frankie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean fifteen days. Like I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: good for about four nights on a trip and then
Speaker 2: I start to come unhinge. But I mean going across
Speaker 2: the country, like going to other countries is different. Obviously
Speaker 2: you can't do that for a couple of days. But
Speaker 2: I start to like want to be in my own
Speaker 2: setting and my own situation. Like right now, I've had
Speaker 2: I dropped my daughter off at her horse show this
Speaker 2: morning because she shows at seven thirty in the morning
Speaker 2: and we're in Orange County, and so I just checked
Speaker 2: into this like VRBO. And the reason you guys can't
Speaker 2: see me right now, it's just audio because apparently in
Speaker 2: the spot that I currently am, my WiFi is not
Speaker 2: good enough to actually see my face.
Speaker 3: Well, I missed your beautiful face. But we have the
Speaker 3: most valuable thing, which is your mouth and your words.
Speaker 2: Some may say valuable, some may say problematic.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's good. It's good. It's good for
Speaker 3: them to be both. And you know, for this for
Speaker 3: a podcast, we definitely need your words and your face.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So, speaking of the I saw on social
Speaker 3: media that we're celebrated her birthday party and to read
Speaker 3: with er Kyle, Erica and I was wonder reading where
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the amount of people that have sent
Speaker 2: me this message, like, oh, Teddy, were you out? Like
Speaker 2: you were ousted? Nobody wanted you there. We see the
Speaker 2: Fox Force five has gotten rid of you. No, guys,
Speaker 2: I didn't feel good. It was supposed to be a
Speaker 2: celebratory birthday dinner for me Rna dury Erica, and then
Speaker 2: Kyle put it all together, but I have been traveling
Speaker 2: NonStop and I had more cancer stuff coming up, and
Speaker 2: I just really didn't feel up to it. And there
Speaker 2: was like that part of me that was you know
Speaker 2: when you get fomo, Like I'm like, I knew this
Speaker 2: would happen, Like I knew they would go out, there'd
Speaker 2: be pictures, and then the social media salooths would be
Speaker 2: like they didn't want Teddy there.
Speaker 3: Especially not there, my friend. As long as you know
Speaker 3: the truth, my friend, that's you know, it's all good.
Speaker 3: But I get it. You know, you do have that
Speaker 3: fomo and then you start thinking, you know, that's what's
Speaker 3: really like not nice. You know, when you're in a
Speaker 3: platform like this and everybody kind of knows about your life,
Speaker 3: so they just see a picture and they go with it.
Speaker 3: And obviously everybody always expects, you know, the worst, like
Speaker 3: you got to run a fight, or you didn't invite
Speaker 3: you or whatnot. But that's why I want to hear
Speaker 3: it from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry, We're all good. I was supposed to
Speaker 2: be there, I had I bailed out last minute, just
Speaker 2: like I don't feel up to it. I've been traveling,
Speaker 2: I miss my kids. I don't feel great. I had
Speaker 2: two additional spots on my back that had to be biopsied,
Speaker 2: and I just you know, sometimes sometimes you have to
Speaker 2: say no, I agree, but they said we're going to
Speaker 2: celebrate another time.
Speaker 3: Yeah no. I mean, I feel like as we get older,
Speaker 3: we also learn to say no, you know, and pick
Speaker 3: our priorities and if we're not feeling it, yes, you know,
Speaker 3: we want to have one with our friends and we
Speaker 3: want to be there for them and celebrate, but you
Speaker 3: also have to think about yourself and put yourself first
Speaker 3: and your family.
Speaker 2: And we also know when we're going to I do,
Speaker 2: at this stage in my life, know when I'm going
Speaker 2: to go somewhere and then not be one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: and then I don't want to bring it down, you know,
Speaker 2: Like if everybody's feeling good and they're excited and they're happy,
Speaker 2: and I'm not feeling great. I'm anxious. I'm like, why
Speaker 2: go and put them through my hell when they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be having a fun night, Like we can do
Speaker 2: it again next month.
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, you can do it again another day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and which we by the way, which we always do.
Speaker 2: But this is the first time a restaurant and you
Speaker 2: know how this works. A restaurant was picked because it's,
Speaker 2: you know, a yummy, delicious restaurant that we all love.
Speaker 2: But that paparazzi is at the last time, we went
Speaker 2: to the Ballet Hotel, so nobody saw us. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why.
Speaker 3: That was a good picture to get. You know, if
Speaker 3: you go to a place like that, it's just like
Speaker 3: in Miami, you know, like where the pops are going
Speaker 3: to be and you're going to get that picture. And
Speaker 3: you know, of course everybody always a house picture, you know, and.
Speaker 2: They all looked good. But then I started to get pissed.
Speaker 2: I said, did you guys, because we're all in a
Speaker 2: group text, you know, the Foxes, did you guys text
Speaker 2: about that we should all wear black? What if I
Speaker 2: didn't wear all black? Because they were all like in
Speaker 2: the uniform.
Speaker 3: Girls usually were like black at night. But yeah, that
Speaker 3: was that was cute. It was a great picture.
Speaker 2: And to meet with them again, yeah, no, everybody had
Speaker 2: so much fun and I was sad not to be there,
Speaker 2: but there will be another time. So have you gotten
Speaker 2: more addicted to Orange County because I actually had.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to share that with you. So I
Speaker 3: saw the second episode this morning, and and first of all,
Speaker 3: it's really really great. I mean these women are really
Speaker 3: like pouring like their their life and just putting your
Speaker 3: life out there. So you know, like Jennifer. I was
Speaker 3: like really shocked with Jennifer's story and you know her
Speaker 3: eviction and you know, just her being like so real
Speaker 3: and raw, and you know Shannon's story. So you have
Speaker 3: like really good stories that a lot of viewers can
Speaker 3: relate to and and you know, and mothers and and
Speaker 3: just women in general.
Speaker 2: So did you see the gen came after me a
Speaker 2: little bit after our last part?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I didn't see that. I'm on vacatione so
Speaker 3: I'm not least I'm really following social media or any
Speaker 3: of that stuff. So you have to fill me in
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we both talked about, you know, during episode one,
Speaker 2: about her fiction and blah blah, and I don't think
Speaker 2: really either of us said anything terrible, but I guess
Speaker 2: people were messaging her that we did. So then she
Speaker 2: did an insta story without listening to the podcast and
Speaker 2: tagged me like I always thought Teddy was great but
Speaker 2: apparently not. Blah blah blah. I'm like, what, Here's here's
Speaker 2: what pissed me off. When people read a headline only one.
Speaker 3: Hundred That's what I was gonna say. When they don't
Speaker 3: even listen to the actual podcast and they just go
Speaker 3: by a headline that Warber picked up and decided to
Speaker 3: write about it, and then they start messaging and making
Speaker 3: the whole thing about it, It's just crazy.
Speaker 2: But the problem is it's it's gonna be worse this episode.
Speaker 2: So now she's probably gonna tag both of us, So
Speaker 2: get ready.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Jen, I mean I just don't well, well,
Speaker 3: as we get into it, you know you'll see. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm actually really getting more into it because you know,
Speaker 3: I feel that, you know, you just really can't say
Speaker 3: a lot in your first episode. It's just like a
Speaker 3: little introduction about everyone and By the way, I was
Speaker 3: a little shocked that Tam was not so much in
Speaker 3: the seas in this episode, and I think she was
Speaker 3: so involved in the first episode either.
Speaker 2: Well, you want to know why this is. This is
Speaker 2: a juicy little nugget. So the reason we don't see
Speaker 2: Tamar that much this episode is she was with me
Speaker 2: at the Emily's not a ton in this episode either,
Speaker 2: and it's because we were at our live show in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Oh okay, Yeah, So we had a two
Speaker 2: teas and a pod live show and it was me,
Speaker 2: Emily Andree from Salt Lake City, Cynthia from Atlanta. We
Speaker 2: were all working that. So we were gone for a
Speaker 2: couple of days. And you know how much happens and
Speaker 2: housewife World in a couple of.
Speaker 3: Days, correct, It's a lot. Yeah, especially vo scenes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's get into the headlines. So the first
Speaker 2: housewife headline for as Jin Pedronci was awarded a six
Speaker 2: figure lump sum child support and for settlement. Uh, she
Speaker 2: settled her this isn't bitter divorced from her ex husband
Speaker 2: William and we'll receive a modest amount and monthly support.
Speaker 2: William will pay Jennifer four th six and seventy four
Speaker 2: dollars per month and child support for the four kids.
Speaker 2: That is not meitty, That is.
Speaker 3: So little money after all the years that she was married.
Speaker 3: She was married Timson to what two thousand and four,
Speaker 3: I think I read eighteen years and four months and
Speaker 3: she yeah, that one thousand hundred and thirty five dollars
Speaker 3: per month and four thousand and six seventy four kidrin
Speaker 3: four children. I mean, I don't know his financial William's financial,
Speaker 3: so you know, I really can't give you know, it's
Speaker 3: really based off of their income. But I can't even
Speaker 3: imagine that.
Speaker 2: I mean, even back in the day, like one bajillion year,
Speaker 2: my parents got, you know, separate of my mom lumps
Speaker 2: and then I remember being considered not a ton because
Speaker 2: my mom got twenty five hundred per child, but that
Speaker 2: it was she also got a very large lump sum
Speaker 2: getting I do wonder like maybe William, because remember William
Speaker 2: used to work for Jen's dad, So maybe William. I
Speaker 2: I'm just guessing maybe William doesn't have a job right now,
Speaker 2: or maybe William isn't in a job where he's making money.
Speaker 3: Well obviously, I mean they do basic on basic on
Speaker 3: the current on his current assets and any go. So
Speaker 3: you know, apparently he's you know, he's not very well
Speaker 3: off when this is all she's going to get. And
Speaker 3: they actually sold whatever assets they had and had a
Speaker 3: total over five hundred thousand, and I think that's why
Speaker 3: she gets that lump sum half of it, which is
Speaker 3: to sixty seven. I mean she should be able to
Speaker 3: pay for rent now and right, I mean with that
Speaker 3: and like her salary, I feel like she can, you
Speaker 3: know totally.
Speaker 2: But second season Housewife, and especially if you're paying for glam,
Speaker 2: you're buying all these clothes, you're doing all these things.
Speaker 2: You're not making a ton of money. But we'll dig
Speaker 2: into this more in the recap because the next one
Speaker 2: is Shannon Badour fires back at ex John Jansen over
Speaker 2: fraud accusation and facelift lawsuit. Shannon Badour said, according to
Speaker 2: court documents that are obtained by in Touch magazine, Shannon
Speaker 2: said John had failed to provide any evidence to back
Speaker 2: up his claim a fraud against her. She said his
Speaker 2: request repunitive damn should be thrown out if the judge
Speaker 2: agrees the fraud claim was standing. Her lawyer wrote, John
Speaker 2: has not alleged sufficient facts to state fraud cause of
Speaker 2: action and therefore has not alleged sufficient frauds for punitive damages.
Speaker 2: They added, John's allegations do not include facts that support
Speaker 2: a claim that Shannon did not intend to perform the
Speaker 2: time she entered into the alleged contract of the loan.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Here's the thing. I personally don't loan money.
Speaker 2: I don't do you.
Speaker 3: Have have I have loaned money. But I think this
Speaker 3: makes it a little different when you're in a relationship
Speaker 3: with the person. So I don't know if you're referring
Speaker 3: to a friend, a family member, you know, your children.
Speaker 3: I mean it depends. In this case, she was with
Speaker 3: her boyfriend of three and a half years, and maybe
Speaker 3: they did have that relationship where they felt comfortable, at
Speaker 3: least at the moment lending each other money. Again, I mean,
Speaker 3: I wasn't there first of all. Can we talk about
Speaker 3: how good Shannon looks is was definitely worth the money.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that she did do her face lifts
Speaker 3: and she's great. But you know, I don't know. You know,
Speaker 3: when you're like lovey dovey and romantic and the guy
Speaker 3: promises everything to you, it's like fake promises, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, that's what I call it. It's like
Speaker 3: the guy's fake promise. So you know, he probably said,
Speaker 3: you know what, I know, how bad you want want,
Speaker 3: you know, to do your surgery. You may not have
Speaker 3: the money now, like don't worry, like when you have it,
Speaker 3: you'll pay me back, blah blah blah. And then they
Speaker 3: broke up. So it's like a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just like assuming that this is
Speaker 3: like how it happened. I think that he at the
Speaker 3: time that he offered the money and gave her the money,
Speaker 3: they were like in love and getting along and he
Speaker 3: wanted her to be happy and he gave her the money,
Speaker 3: and then afterwards they weren't in such a great place.
Speaker 3: But now he wants money back, which is too bad.
Speaker 2: But also in history showing you know, John had originally
Speaker 2: made comments about how she looked, so I think that
Speaker 2: you know, as a woman, if you're with somebody and
Speaker 2: they are dogging you out a little bit about how
Speaker 2: you physically look, of course you know, yes there's different ways,
Speaker 2: but like maybe she wanted to do it for him,
Speaker 2: Oh that too.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I think he had what to do with it,
Speaker 3: and he made her feel insecure and whatnot, and so
Speaker 3: it was something she always wanted to do. And I
Speaker 3: obviously I'm thinking that he also was encouraging it because
Speaker 3: he thought that she could use it because she could
Speaker 3: look better. So it was like a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3: But you know, when you're in love and everything is
Speaker 3: going great, they probably see the world both sides. You know.
Speaker 3: I'm not just saying that the man does it. The
Speaker 3: woman might do it as well. But then afterwards, when
Speaker 3: things are back, it's like, oh, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I want my money back.
Speaker 2: I have a question if you were to get engaged
Speaker 2: tomorrow to somebody else and they gave you a ring
Speaker 2: and then you decided to end it, would you give
Speaker 2: the ring back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for an engagement, I probably would, you know. I
Speaker 3: think it's different like after divorce. You know, I don't
Speaker 3: think the man you're going to give, you know, your
Speaker 3: husband and ring back, But.
Speaker 2: I think it's whoever ends it.
Speaker 3: Engagement rings that I have been engaged before, and I
Speaker 3: I've given back to ring. If you know, it depends,
Speaker 3: I mean, if you accept the engagement. I kind of
Speaker 3: like haven't accepted the engagement. So I'm like, okay, no, sorry,
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to get married giving back to ring.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it's weird to keep an
Speaker 3: engagement ring because you know, it does have a significance
Speaker 3: and it's you know, with the promise or of seeing
Speaker 3: the future that you are going to have a life
Speaker 3: with this person and get married. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: I would think it was weird. I would definitely give
Speaker 3: it back, and I don't care how much.
Speaker 2: You can't give back a facelift, Yeah, you can't get
Speaker 2: back a facelift. But she looks good.
Speaker 3: Oh no, she did good. Better than the ring. Oh
Speaker 3: she did way better than I was very pretty. But
Speaker 3: I'm very happy she got to do that, especially now
Speaker 3: she's going to you know what I mean. At least
Speaker 3: she looks good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the next one is Gina's boyfriend Travis Mullen
Speaker 2: settles restraining order battle with ex wife. You know, we
Speaker 2: see this season that the two of that Gina and
Speaker 2: Travis move out of the place together because the involvement
Speaker 2: of the ex wife. But here we see that Travis's
Speaker 2: ex wife reached an agreement in their bitter court war.
Speaker 2: This is also from In Touch. She agreed to drop
Speaker 2: the temporary restraining order he was granted against his ex.
Speaker 2: The ex'es agreed neither party will will be under the
Speaker 2: influence of any non prescription medications or legal drugs while
Speaker 2: having physical custody of the minor children. That's the part
Speaker 2: that's confusing to me. Travis and Megan agreed that they
Speaker 2: will submit to a drug screening test within six hours
Speaker 2: of a request by Travis. Travis degrees to advance the
Speaker 2: cost of the screening. So my assumption, which I don't know,
Speaker 2: is that he said she was under the influence of something.
Speaker 2: Who knows what it could be. It could be alcohol,
Speaker 2: it could be.
Speaker 3: Why are we even talking about Travis's girlfriend? Is she
Speaker 3: even involved in the show? First of all, can we
Speaker 3: talk about how much we see Gina of this episode?
Speaker 3: She was like all over the place.
Speaker 2: She was all over this episode. But I would assume
Speaker 2: that that happened because we have.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: He probably because of Gina's past with her ex and
Speaker 2: all that that went down. I would assume whatever's going
Speaker 2: on with his ex involves you know, I don't know her,
Speaker 2: but substance or alcohol abuse or something like that. So
Speaker 2: that's why I.
Speaker 3: Don't know why why they're dragging. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 3: seeing it in a different way. I mean, she doesn't participate,
Speaker 3: you know, I get it if it was Gina, but
Speaker 3: like Travis's ex wife and like the kids and you know,
Speaker 3: talking about their drug screening and why she even like
Speaker 3: she's not even involved in the show. But why is
Speaker 3: she important in this whole thing?
Speaker 2: Well, I think because they're moving out from one another.
Speaker 2: And I think because now they're talking about how they
Speaker 2: can only speak through a court approved app which I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever had done that.
Speaker 3: But that's his ex wife, it's not Gina. So how
Speaker 3: is this likevan.
Speaker 2: Because if you're living with somebody and you're trying to
Speaker 2: co parent and start this new life together, and you
Speaker 2: have one person like Gina, even though she had a
Speaker 2: very traumatic breakup and you know, cops were involved and
Speaker 2: all kinds of things with her ex, they've been able
Speaker 2: to mend it. And Travis until to until yesterday or
Speaker 2: whenever this was released, was not you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: There is a lot a lot of these women have
Speaker 3: really complex lives. You know, it's like really raw and
Speaker 3: and really eve of them honestly, to share these to
Speaker 3: share these things, you know, when there's children involved.
Speaker 2: And especially like their mind these are little kids. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if you know your kids were little
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're on a TV show
Speaker 2: with somebody like I had to at My stepdaughter was
Speaker 2: never shown on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because it
Speaker 2: wasn't something her mom was comfortable with, right right, And
Speaker 2: I think we have to respect that. Like when you
Speaker 2: are bringing.
Speaker 3: In too, I think so too. Yes, that's why I'm
Speaker 3: because I haven't watched this. I don't know why we're
Speaker 3: even talking about, like Travis's ex wife and like this
Speaker 3: drug problem and drug testing and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just wish Gina good luck because
Speaker 3: this just looks like a big mess.
Speaker 2: But also they aren't even divorced yet. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: Well no, no, I mean it's just like I mean,
Speaker 3: I hope she's really in love with him, because it's
Speaker 3: going to take more than love to get through this.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like a big.
Speaker 2: My guess is that these two are probably not going
Speaker 2: to make it. It's not settled. I don't think they're
Speaker 2: in a position where they financially or mentally can deal
Speaker 2: with this. You know, sometimes when.
Speaker 3: You break up with somebody, you just want.
Speaker 2: To you don't want to be alone. And I think
Speaker 2: that's normal, especially when you have young kids. You don't
Speaker 2: want to feel like you're doing it all by yourself.
Speaker 2: But I do think this relationship will run its course.
Speaker 2: You can feel that Gina has confidence right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and together Travis and Gina.
Speaker 2: I mean it's been a couple of years, but I
Speaker 2: mean they got together and like pretty much immediately they
Speaker 2: are moving in together and with like eighty seven kids
Speaker 2: and like a three bedroom place with like three bunk
Speaker 2: beds that kind of thing per room. Yeah, but now
Speaker 2: let's get into taglines. Do you think we could do
Speaker 2: a dramatic reading of each tagline? Okay? Do you want
Speaker 2: to take Heather and then I'll take Shannon and we'll go.
Speaker 3: From there so I can see how you how you
Speaker 3: doing it?
Speaker 2: Okay, just because I drink from a flute doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you can play me. That's how they do bros.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, Shannon Bador. Even in the harshest of times,
Speaker 3: the storms will always weather.
Speaker 2: It's family. Simpson. I used to question people for a living.
Speaker 2: Now I just do it for fun.
Speaker 3: Gina, like the properties I represent, I know.
Speaker 2: My worth, Haiti. When you live your life on the green,
Speaker 2: envy is just par for the course, Jennifer.
Speaker 3: People bent over backwards to get me, and their form
Speaker 3: is terrible.
Speaker 2: Camera. The only thing stuck up about me is my
Speaker 2: middle thing. Okay, my first comment about these I My
Speaker 2: first comment is listen. In regards to Katie, who I
Speaker 2: liked more of this episode, is I'm really fucking sick
Speaker 2: of hearing about golf. I don't like golf. There's we
Speaker 2: were already talked about her. Whole house is filled with
Speaker 2: golf artwork, and now her tagline being about golf makes
Speaker 2: me a little bit worried about her future on the
Speaker 2: show because everybody else's tag kind of.
Speaker 3: What he generic because you can't we don't know her yet.
Speaker 3: We don't know Katie yet. All the other ones we
Speaker 3: can relate to because we know their character and we
Speaker 3: know them, but Katie's just kind of like just there now.
Speaker 3: I like her. I like her character, like how she is.
Speaker 3: I think she's like really cute. I freaked out that
Speaker 3: she had all those kids twenty and then she she
Speaker 3: has She's lived her life definitely so what.
Speaker 2: I need to know? How many baby daddies are we
Speaker 2: working with?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought that I could keep up with It
Speaker 3: was like the first one that was nineteen, the other
Speaker 3: one three. I think she's four. It's either like three
Speaker 3: or four.
Speaker 2: Her daughter Carly is nineteen. She wants to learn more
Speaker 2: about her Korean route. She had Kylie and two other
Speaker 2: kids in her first marriage, Gavin seventeen and Max fourteen,
Speaker 2: who lives in Atlanta with his dad. And then Katie
Speaker 2: and her current husband Matt have one son together, Brandon six.
Speaker 2: And you know what, Oh sorry Kaylee and ban Don. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, then we get We start the episode right
Speaker 2: off where we're back at Heather's party. Alexis tells Heather
Speaker 2: and Tama that Shannon only wants to talk about the lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Tamar tells Alexis she's not gonna lie. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: hard for Shannon. We see a text sent to Shannon
Speaker 2: when Alexis went public with John. Hi, Shannon, I know
Speaker 2: things aren't great between us, but I just wanted you
Speaker 2: to know that I'm thinking about you. With all these
Speaker 2: pictures of John and Alexis going around, and I know
Speaker 2: how hurtful this must be for you, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I hope you're able to enjoy this holiday season. Shannon
Speaker 2: responds that Tarmah liked Alexis's photo but also put applause
Speaker 2: emojis as a comment. Shannon's text, not sure what is
Speaker 2: going on, but I can say, without a doubt, I
Speaker 2: would never ever see me posting applause emojis to a
Speaker 2: girl who's pr rep saying that Alexis and John have
Speaker 2: a lot in common, to which Tarma replied, throw the
Speaker 2: fuck up. I think Shannon is handling herself very well
Speaker 2: so far, but I will say getting upset over Tamra
Speaker 2: commenting applause emojis proves the lawsuit isn't really what she's
Speaker 2: upset about with Alexis. But also I think the applause
Speaker 2: photo was not actually one of her and John. I
Speaker 2: think it was just one of her by herself, because
Speaker 2: you see how they saw that show. She just showed
Speaker 2: that photo alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, But I mean Shannon has every right
Speaker 3: to feel the way that she does and to be
Speaker 3: upset about it. You wouldn't like it if you'rre best
Speaker 3: friend like Tamera, and you know how close you girls are.
Speaker 3: If you know she would do that to one of
Speaker 3: your exes that has moved on, and you know, put
Speaker 3: an emoji, not only liked it, and you know wrote
Speaker 3: you that kind of like text. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: mean I would like it for sure, Like I would
Speaker 3: be so pissed at Marathon she would do something like this, like, oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, you and Marisol would be giving each other
Speaker 2: death glares on the couch. I can already. I saw
Speaker 2: it last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look how connected I am with Marisol. She literally
Speaker 3: is just calling me right now.
Speaker 2: I'm miss Marasol.
Speaker 3: And let me tell her him Marossol. Maybe by my podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm on the podcast. But I was just talking about you.
Speaker 3: How funny, and then the phone rings. Okay, I love you.
Speaker 3: I said that you would never I said that you
Speaker 3: would never like one of my exes new girlfriend's pictures
Speaker 3: and believe a clappy emoji on it. I know exactly exactly. Okay, bye, Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2: She's so cute. I pour before. Make sure you guys
Speaker 2: are tuning into that, by the way, because they have
Speaker 2: such an amazing pot.
Speaker 3: Thank you. So yeah, I mean, Jannon has a lot
Speaker 3: of things going on. She's super upset about Camroan like
Speaker 3: their friendship like falling out and then like her new friendship,
Speaker 3: you know, tameras with Alexis, and you know, I know
Speaker 3: Tamra's just trying to be kind of neutral and whatnot,
Speaker 3: but like her feelings are all over the place. You know,
Speaker 3: camor been too hard on Shannon.
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's something that we all.
Speaker 3: Drinking and all that. I get that. You know, Tamera,
Speaker 3: you can tell like really is concerned for Shannon and
Speaker 3: she loves Shannon and her friendship and all that. So
Speaker 3: I understand all that. But you know, Shan is going
Speaker 3: through a tough time and and is there for her,
Speaker 3: but in a way, she's kind of staying like mixed messages.
Speaker 2: But I think the history with Shannon, and you guys
Speaker 2: listening are gonna say I'm biased because Tama's one of
Speaker 2: my besties and blah blah blah. But I do know
Speaker 2: because I've had a relationship like this where when you
Speaker 2: are best friends with somebody for so many years and
Speaker 2: you're close that you reach a point in a friendship
Speaker 2: when it is sucking the life out of you and
Speaker 2: you just really have zero tolerance for it all. And
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the first time that you
Speaker 2: know Tamra and Shannon. You know, Shannon has Maybe it's
Speaker 2: hard because this episode I'm watching Shannon and I'm my
Speaker 2: empathy is so there for her. But I also have
Speaker 2: watched my friend Tarma throughout the years with Shannon, and
Speaker 2: I know that, Like, think about even when you were
Speaker 2: on girls trip, you got annoyed with Marisol after like
Speaker 2: seven days together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, listen, I can see it happening. That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It wasn't even I was annoyed with Marosolf
Speaker 3: from other stuff, but then obviously seven days together in
Speaker 3: and out just worse than the situation. But at the end,
Speaker 3: you have like that foundation of like real friendship is
Speaker 3: about like sisterhood. You know that you can say certain
Speaker 3: things to each other that you're going to hurt you,
Speaker 3: but you know how to move forward from that, and
Speaker 3: you made it from a good place and you have
Speaker 3: good intentions. But I get it. You know, Tamra's like
Speaker 3: fed up with Shannon because it's like many years of
Speaker 3: you know, this kind of behavior and it's obviously affecting camera.
Speaker 3: So she just is like not, She's not having it anymore.
Speaker 3: She's like protecting herself and protecting her peace.
Speaker 2: And I think that Tama also has a personality type
Speaker 2: where like, if something's wrong, you go and fix it,
Speaker 2: like you handle it. Yeah, And I think both of
Speaker 2: us are that same way as well. And I think
Speaker 2: after years and years, she just was finally like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I can't I can't do it anymore, like
Speaker 2: I and I think that's what we're seeing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think it's a Tamara doesn't believe Shannon,
Speaker 3: that the Shannon like is really giving up drinking and
Speaker 3: you know, really wants to, you know, take a toll
Speaker 3: for life and just you know, change it. I mean
Speaker 3: I think that like Tamara doesn't really believe that, and
Speaker 3: that's why she's you know, not that she's like lying
Speaker 3: to the rest of the girls, but I feel like
Speaker 3: Tamara doesn't really believe it.
Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, I think act I think after all these years,
Speaker 2: I think their trust in each other is gone. I
Speaker 2: think there's been so many times that Tamar has answered
Speaker 2: those phone calls late at night, hearing about whether it
Speaker 2: was David Shannon's ex or you know, with John Jansen,
Speaker 2: all of it. I think she's just exhausted by it,
Speaker 2: and you know, especially now that she's been brought into it.
Speaker 2: I think Tama. And here's the thing about Tamar. She
Speaker 2: gets over things very quickly. But if you wrong her
Speaker 2: in the moment and like you just keep doubling down,
Speaker 2: She's she is going to snap back. That's just her personality.
Speaker 2: Whereas I think you would probably snap back to where
Speaker 2: like I will put it on me figure out a way,
Speaker 2: like I will panic, I will overthink it, I will
Speaker 2: make it my problem. She's able to kind of distance
Speaker 2: herself from it. I am not so great at doing that, right. No,
Speaker 2: I mean we'll see if the go.
Speaker 3: So much more left, we don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: But you know who I loved like that, which I
Speaker 3: was hoping for after episode one, that they would like
Speaker 3: get closervice Gina and Shannon. You know, did you remember
Speaker 3: seeing that scene between Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, because remember the first episode, she really Gina really
Speaker 2: came for Shannon did.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But then I was hoping, and that's like what
Speaker 3: I said, I really hope that, you know, because Gina's
Speaker 3: gone through it and she knows the pain, that she
Speaker 3: recognizes it, and then she softens up a little bit
Speaker 3: with her and it's like there to like hold her
Speaker 3: hand and to like encourage her and to you know,
Speaker 3: to just be friends with each other and be there
Speaker 3: for each other and support each other.
Speaker 2: So that, yeah, me too. But when we get into
Speaker 2: Jen tells Katie about her eviction, Gina tells Heather and
Speaker 2: taram Or how she helped Jen get the house. She
Speaker 2: found out Jen had to leave via Instagram. Jen and
Speaker 2: Gina agree to discuss the situation at a different time. Okay,
Speaker 2: Katie has been in this group all of ten minutes
Speaker 2: and she's already seen two of the women fight over
Speaker 2: a lawsuit and a man and heard about one's eviction.
Speaker 2: She's probably like hot, damn, I signed up for a
Speaker 2: good season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is let No, but this is like a
Speaker 3: rough This is a tough group that they have really
Speaker 3: like deep storylines. I mean they have with these kind
Speaker 3: of storylines, you know you're gonna have a great season
Speaker 3: and ever watch for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Alexis tells Jen, Katie and Emily that
Speaker 2: she will protect John. Shannon tells her to lower her voice.
Speaker 2: Alexis says she's scolded. Shannon is old enough to be
Speaker 2: her mom. Alexis says, any storm that the Door wants
Speaker 2: to create find a new Tornado. Alexis, there are thirteen
Speaker 2: years between you and Shannon, even if the women on
Speaker 2: Teen Mom are older. Can we not with the bad
Speaker 2: age jokes? Like I I know we liked Alexis. I
Speaker 2: know I probably do like Alexis, But there's just a
Speaker 2: certain amount of things, like.
Speaker 3: You said, what I mean, that age shaming between all
Speaker 3: of us. It's like it's very poor taste, and everybody's
Speaker 3: getting older, you know, if you're looking enough to make
Speaker 3: it to that age. I mean, it's it's just stupid.
Speaker 3: I think it's really immature, and I think it's really
Speaker 3: distasteful to just, you know, age shame like the other
Speaker 3: women when they're older you on the show.
Speaker 2: But we do have to talk about one other thing
Speaker 2: that I really noticed. If nobody's going to talk about
Speaker 2: Shannon bringing her glam girl to apply her lip gloss
Speaker 2: in the middle, Okay, that's also Kyle's glam girl, who
Speaker 2: I love. You are the MVP. You are amazing. She
Speaker 2: does so many howswif she does the best work and
Speaker 2: I love Pam. But like they're in the middle of
Speaker 2: the fight and then all of a sudden, Shannon turns
Speaker 2: her face and Pam applies like another layer of lip gloss,
Speaker 2: and I died.
Speaker 3: Actually, But I think that that was like a good
Speaker 3: strategy or tactic because it's kind of like in the
Speaker 3: middle of the thing, you know, that kind of like
Speaker 3: calms you down, they put lip bloss on your lips,
Speaker 3: You get like a breather. You come back to whatever
Speaker 3: it was you're saying, and you're like, you look good.
Speaker 2: But but but how can only some people like not
Speaker 2: everybody brought a guest? How did she do you think
Speaker 2: she got to bring one? Because she was the Housewives?
Speaker 3: You know that, because to be there, welcome to the
Speaker 3: house to show. You never know who's going to show up.
Speaker 3: You never know what's going to be sitting next to you.
Speaker 3: Some people can bring people. There's always like a tourier motive.
Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know. I don't know. You would
Speaker 3: have to ask Shannon if she really brought her for that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, of course she did. I
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not going unless I can bring a friend.
Speaker 2: And my friend is going to be my glam girl.
Speaker 2: Who's going to make sure I look on point twenty
Speaker 2: four seven?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna copy and do the same thing. I
Speaker 3: think it's brilliant.
Speaker 2: Can I pretend to be your glam girl next season
Speaker 2: on Miami and I'll just sit next to you and
Speaker 2: apply your lip glass. Yes, I won't say a word.
Speaker 2: I'll just touch up your powder and put on some
Speaker 2: lip gloss whenever.
Speaker 3: Yes, you can also give me liners. You can also
Speaker 3: tell me like, oh, say this, do this.
Speaker 2: Or I can be like shit, right, you're actually digging
Speaker 2: yourself in a ginormous hole. Then we get into the
Speaker 2: wish booth, which I thought was money at first. When
Speaker 2: I found out there were wishes, I was pissed.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 2: So Tamara pulls what would you like to have lessa
Speaker 2: this year? Her answer as friends who talked about my
Speaker 2: behind me, behind my back. Shannon says she doesn't. She
Speaker 2: just needs Tamar to fucking calm down. Alexis brings up
Speaker 2: her ring from John. Alexis says it's not a promise ring,
Speaker 2: it's a promised ring, and Alexis says that promised could
Speaker 2: also be promised in the eyes of the Lord.
Speaker 3: Okay, please, well, I didn't know that that she was
Speaker 3: that she was so religious and is John religious like her?
Speaker 2: I don't think John is religious like her. I think
Speaker 2: her ex Jim Bellino, is quite religious. And also Jim
Speaker 2: was very controlling. He didn't want her out of that
Speaker 2: like he wanted like he thought, the woman's job is
Speaker 2: in the home taking care of the man. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But Emily did make me like split up my water
Speaker 2: for a second when she was like, hold up, what's
Speaker 2: the diverse between a promise ring and a promised just
Speaker 2: because there's a fucking d added, right. But and then
Speaker 2: Gina pipes in, you know this is that's a big
Speaker 2: gift for two months, and blah blah blah. Shannon says
Speaker 2: that she this is the other thing that was a
Speaker 2: little confusing. Shannon at the table says she did admit
Speaker 2: that Tamra has an ego, but she didn't actually admit
Speaker 2: that to Sr.
Speaker 3: Vanwa, you say that that's a big gift for two months.
Speaker 3: So if he gave Alexis unexpensive, is that a Van
Speaker 3: Cleef ring? I couldn't see what it was, but is it?
Speaker 2: I think it was Van Cliff. It was either Van
Speaker 2: Cleeve or Cardi I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: So he became Alexis after two months? A Van Cliff Ring.
Speaker 3: He could totally give Shannon a face DFT after three
Speaker 3: and a half years of her putting up with this shit.
Speaker 3: So you don't, We'll call it a day, John, because
Speaker 3: she's not giving you back anything.
Speaker 2: You know what, what is she going to give back
Speaker 2: her next skin?
Speaker 3: You know, her mind? No validity? No, But I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: you know what, like he's really he wants the money
Speaker 3: back after three and a half years from Shannon, and
Speaker 3: then he goes after two months and he gets her
Speaker 3: up you know about cleeve Ring.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, I think it's a little bit intentional.
Speaker 2: He and and and going in and being like we're
Speaker 2: not going to talk about sex.
Speaker 3: But it's been Lexis to get a whole body, I
Speaker 3: mean a whole face, the whole body and hope everything
Speaker 3: and he pays for it.
Speaker 2: Well, what about that?
Speaker 3: I don't like her, but you know, you have to
Speaker 3: be fair.
Speaker 2: But what about she goes, we're not going to talk
Speaker 2: about sex. But it's already been two times today I
Speaker 2: will I fucking poor Fovore, Like you, I feel like
Speaker 2: she's just poking the bear. And I realized that less is.
Speaker 3: Really I realize it. I realize that too teddy. She
Speaker 3: really is, because every time she talks it's about John,
Speaker 3: like that's all she talks about.
Speaker 2: Like if she wanted to show us how her friendships
Speaker 2: with the other women are growing and all the things,
Speaker 2: then I'm cool with Alexis. But like I feel like
Speaker 2: she's doing it intentionally to try to get and listen,
Speaker 2: I've been in situations where I've tried to get at
Speaker 2: my you know, significant other's exes to show them that
Speaker 2: I'm on top. Like I'm not too. I'm not too
Speaker 2: proud to say I've been a dickhead in that way.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's it's coming off. It's it's
Speaker 2: not coming off the way that I think Alexis hoped
Speaker 2: it did it, it's coming off for hurst.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Then Shannon says that she did say during the trace
Speaker 2: Amgas tour everything was done around Tamra's schedule. Tarma was
Speaker 2: going around saying thank me for the show. I know
Speaker 2: that didn't happen, but I do think she did not
Speaker 2: say to Tamra's face that she said she had an ego,
Speaker 2: but she did say to her glam girl, So I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, out of the three Tamborough was the busiest,
Speaker 3: so like it made sense, you know, to plant around
Speaker 3: the time or schedule. And you know, sometimes even though
Speaker 3: there's three and everybody's equal, there's always one one of
Speaker 3: the girls that that just kind of takes more like
Speaker 3: the role, you know, of the leader that puts things together.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the mean one of the three.
Speaker 3: One doesn't mean that you're better, your egos better, you
Speaker 3: think you're better than anybody else. It just means that
Speaker 3: you might be better at doing that.
Speaker 2: And it ebbs and flows, like there are certain times
Speaker 2: where like with me and Tam or me and you,
Speaker 2: or me and whomever, or me and Emily, like where
Speaker 2: one of one week, our schedule is crazy and like
Speaker 2: my particular schedule is crazy and we have to work
Speaker 2: around my schedule, or if there's other weeks where it's
Speaker 2: like okay, and that's part of working together when we're
Speaker 2: all professionals trying to do it all we can. But
Speaker 2: the other thing I'm going to need to say is
Speaker 2: that Heather needs to go back to letting Terry help
Speaker 2: plan her parties because the food at this I loved
Speaker 2: Heather this episode, do not get me wrong, loved her
Speaker 2: this episode, but Gina trying to swallow down whatever the
Speaker 2: agasha musha or whatever the fuck that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, you don't even know. I like to
Speaker 3: know what I'm meaning. I like to see it, I
Speaker 3: know what it is. I like to taste it and
Speaker 3: know what it is. That seemed like a little bushy thing,
Speaker 3: which I would not probably like, but it was. I
Speaker 3: liked Tether a lot too. I feel like she talks,
Speaker 3: she brings the reason, you know, the group.
Speaker 2: She's the voice of reason of the group. And she's
Speaker 2: also funny. She'll get involved in the drama enough, but
Speaker 2: then she's also like, Okay, now it's not at the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, I like that Gina was
Speaker 3: not going to mess up Heather's party because she had
Speaker 3: already done that in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then they do, of course, they do flashbacks.
Speaker 2: Right then, Shannon, Katie, and Jen go for a walk.
Speaker 2: Shannon said she used to do the steps with John
Speaker 2: and he'd lay down on the bench. Jen says she's
Speaker 2: seen picks of John Jansen and he's been turning back time.
Speaker 2: This may have been one of my favorite part of
Speaker 2: the episodes, when Shannon says the reason John has not
Speaker 2: been smiling with his full teeth.
Speaker 3: I thought it was great too, but you see, that's
Speaker 3: what it is like. Now she has a new man.
Speaker 3: Now he did his vinyars, he'll start like dying his hair,
Speaker 3: but get in shape and it's like, okay, you can
Speaker 3: have them. You know, it's like, but that's that's how
Speaker 3: it always is.
Speaker 2: But then, don't be me to go back and look
Speaker 2: at every John Janssen photos and see how wide he's smiling,
Speaker 2: Like I was like, okay, now I gotta go back
Speaker 2: in time. I gotta see how many teeth he was showing.
Speaker 2: But also he didn't have shit teeth to begin with.
Speaker 2: His teeth were fine. His teeth were not ship before,
Speaker 2: like they were fine.
Speaker 3: Now they're just whitening or he got some caps or something.
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly he got veneers. But I still, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's still made me laugh out loud. And then that
Speaker 2: was pretty amazing. And then when Katie asked Jin what
Speaker 2: does Ryan do for a living, and she goes, well, nothing.
Speaker 2: Now he did mortgage. I know, he did mortgage for years,
Speaker 2: and then he's done real estate development since then. There's
Speaker 2: no office, there's no I just feel like he just
Speaker 2: sits around and like plays in the sunshine. He kind
Speaker 2: of just lives a dream life. You know what, I
Speaker 2: hope Rian's wearing fucking sunscreen. What do you mean, what
Speaker 2: is he doing?
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm surprised none of the girls I've
Speaker 3: asked her or no. I mean, it was just very
Speaker 3: you know, it was touched upon. But like maybe in
Speaker 3: the next episodes, don't diag more into that, especially when
Speaker 3: all the other stuff comes out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also allegedly Ryan is a book maker's associate
Speaker 2: to whom and interpreter of somebody that played at the
Speaker 2: Dodgers wired money to pay his gambling debts from the
Speaker 2: money he stole from Dodgers picture. Oh hanni. I don't
Speaker 2: know all of this is true or all of it's
Speaker 2: not true. All I know is putting all of my
Speaker 2: eggs in one basket after already being evicted with all
Speaker 2: of my kids with Wait, but I question.
Speaker 3: Why didn't Ryan pay her for her mortgage? Like why
Speaker 3: didn't Brian pay for her rent instead of her getting
Speaker 3: evicted if you're going out with instead of moving into
Speaker 3: his house and he knows that she's struggling and it's
Speaker 3: just a matter of her divorce wrapping up and her
Speaker 3: getting her settlement. Why couldn't he tell her to listen?
Speaker 3: You know, I know you're you're behind and you're going
Speaker 3: to be settling soon. You know, I can loan you
Speaker 3: this money or even give it to him if he
Speaker 3: has so much money. I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 3: her rent is, but he could have helped her out, Like,
Speaker 3: why didn't he pay for her mortgage or her rent?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the least he could have done.
Speaker 2: Well, my guess is that he wanted her in that
Speaker 2: house for more screen time.
Speaker 3: Oh I haven't see now what man wants more time
Speaker 3: on screen time? Are these why?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry guys, this a housewife show. Okay, go get
Speaker 3: your own show.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, but why else? I mean, granted, if I
Speaker 2: were to start dating somebody new tomorrow, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to ask for rent. But then I got confused
Speaker 2: because then when we get to Jen crying to her dad,
Speaker 2: where she kept being like, dad, you say, why do
Speaker 2: you help her?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 3: I think there's something else there between you and I
Speaker 3: because if you have good parents like she seems to have,
Speaker 3: and a good relationship with them, and then she seems
Speaker 3: to have Ryan is her fiance. It's not even her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: It's like her fiance.
Speaker 2: But at this point he wasn't the fiance. He was
Speaker 2: just the boyfriend. Okay, they get engaged later, but still.
Speaker 3: But still, you know here, I'm sure he knew that
Speaker 3: he You know, when you're in a relationship as boyfriend
Speaker 3: and girlfriend, you know whether it's going to turn it
Speaker 3: into an engagement or not. But regardless, she has she
Speaker 3: has a rich boyfriend, she has very nice parents, and
Speaker 3: she knows that she's getting a settlement. It's only a
Speaker 3: matter of time. She's going to have some kind of money.
Speaker 3: She could have worked something out with the landlord, with
Speaker 3: the owner and with Gina where she can you know,
Speaker 3: play catch up with her old friend and not being evicted.
Speaker 3: To me, that's a little strength between you and I.
Speaker 3: I mean, I lost California, but in Florida you have
Speaker 3: more time.
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, even if I if you moved to
Speaker 2: California tomorrow and I told so Farah Kyle's daughter is
Speaker 2: my real estate agent. If I told her, you know
Speaker 2: what Alexi is good for it get her a place,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, she would still do a check on you.
Speaker 2: I don't understand this, Gina. You know, I do agree
Speaker 2: with Gina being upset about this, But how can you
Speaker 2: say you vowed for somebody and then all of the
Speaker 2: real estate you've been a real estate agent twenty two
Speaker 2: minutes and then they all believe you and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're good. Or is it because they're like she's on
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Orange County.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's that's that's what it is. That's why
Speaker 3: that happened. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: So let's call a spade a spade. And I also
Speaker 2: want to know how much that rent was a month?
Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to know that too. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's that's a very good, fair question. She hasn't talked
Speaker 3: about it or said anything, But I just don't know
Speaker 3: how you get evicted having a family of parents, knowing
Speaker 3: what she was going through, and obviously she already knows
Speaker 3: what she has to count on, so she you know,
Speaker 3: there's no more excuses for her, Like, Okay, I yet,
Speaker 3: before she knw she was going through a divorce and
Speaker 3: her settlement, she didn't know what she was you know,
Speaker 3: what the judge was going to award her or not.
Speaker 3: But now she really knows what she has to work with,
Speaker 3: so she needs to know that's all she's going to
Speaker 3: get every month and what she's going to have in
Speaker 3: the future. But you know, I think Gina was a
Speaker 3: little bit harder on her between you like telling her.
Speaker 3: You know, she didn't even let her talk. I mean,
Speaker 3: Jen just sat there at lunch and she just got
Speaker 3: it from Gina. And I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 3: Gina was very upset. I don't know that I would
Speaker 3: have been that upset, because.
Speaker 2: I mean, I found I understand why Gina was upset,
Speaker 2: but I think Gina was upset because she was relating it.
Speaker 2: Not I get that we're seeing the real estate angle
Speaker 2: and trying to get the buyers. But what I think
Speaker 2: Gina was actually really upset about was she was comparing
Speaker 2: it to her own life. And when she hit the
Speaker 2: fan and her own life, she fucking figured it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she went to work, she moved into a casida, She
Speaker 2: fucking changed everything. And I think, whether we mean to
Speaker 2: or not, we're going to put that on other people.
Speaker 2: She didn't then look to so and so to figure
Speaker 2: it out for her. And I think there is a
Speaker 2: thing between women, and there was even something that you know,
Speaker 2: Jen's parents said to her, which was like, we are
Speaker 2: just so grateful that you did figure it out, you
Speaker 2: found Ryan. That kind of I said that.
Speaker 3: I hate it. They said that, They're like, you're going
Speaker 3: from one man to another, and this one's even like,
Speaker 3: look at all his problems already that he has. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I was very surprised. I mean, I'm not that kind
Speaker 3: of parent. My parents were not like that, So I
Speaker 3: was very surprised that they would say it's kind of
Speaker 3: like the one like to dumper on him, like Okay,
Speaker 3: thank god you found this man. And by the way,
Speaker 3: where is where was he? Why did he pay the rent?
Speaker 3: Would be so great.
Speaker 2: But also I think there's a difference between like if
Speaker 2: you're in a situation and clearly I get you, guys
Speaker 2: are gonna come to me. Clearly, my dad has a
Speaker 2: good amount of money. He's never given it to me,
Speaker 2: like it's not his thing, he doesn't believe in it.
Speaker 2: But I do think if I were in a situation
Speaker 2: where I let him know in advance I am in
Speaker 2: trouble right now, could you help me in this short
Speaker 2: term let's figure this out, blah blah blah. I think
Speaker 2: he probably would. I would never want to get to
Speaker 2: that situation, but I think he probably would. But letting
Speaker 2: your parents know after the fact, after you've already been evicted,
Speaker 2: that's just a lack of taking care of your fucking self,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 3: I mean that's like, you know, and then putting on
Speaker 3: your story that you're moving out, I mean that you're
Speaker 3: moving It's just that's to me, it is mind boggling,
Speaker 3: like that doesn't work that way. That's why I find
Speaker 3: it a little bit weird. It's like, you have such
Speaker 3: a great communication with your parents and a good relationship.
Speaker 3: Any parent would help on their child if they have
Speaker 3: the means, obviously, and any boyfriend fiance also as well,
Speaker 3: also knowing that she was going through this divorce and
Speaker 3: that it was just a matter of time before she
Speaker 3: got awarded whatever was due to her. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions there. And also how
Speaker 3: much was the rent that nobody wanted to pay it,
Speaker 3: that nobody could pay it? How much was your rent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how do you sign on? Like right now,
Speaker 2: if somebody was like, Teddy, do you want to rent
Speaker 2: this place? It's five hundred thousand dollars. I mean I
Speaker 2: know I'm making this number up, but a number I
Speaker 2: can't afford. It's five hundred thousand dollars for the year,
Speaker 2: I would be like, absolutely not, I cannot afford it.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. And I think that as women,
Speaker 2: we need to speak to the fact of we need
Speaker 2: to know our own finances. Regardless if you're married and
Speaker 2: your job is to be a homemaker, or your job
Speaker 2: is out in an office, whatever it may be, you
Speaker 2: have to learn your finances because you can never count
Speaker 2: on somebody else. And now she's moving into Ryan's house, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, how has he never used his dishwasher?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what kind of lifestyle she
Speaker 3: had before, but never like really did anything. And then
Speaker 3: she was just relying on that. A lot of women
Speaker 3: that are going through like a divorce or separation, they
Speaker 3: are thinking they're gonna get a lot more than what
Speaker 3: they actually end up getting at the end. So they're
Speaker 3: really thinking of that number that's not realistic, and then
Speaker 3: they go and they rent something or whatnot for you know,
Speaker 3: for a certain amount that they really can't afford. And
Speaker 3: then she probably thought, between that and the show and whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll be able to to you know, figure
Speaker 3: it out and to afford it, and then she couldn't.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? So do you think that Ryan's
Speaker 2: paying for her glam and her clothes and stuff?
Speaker 3: But you know, I think that's mean too, Teddy, because
Speaker 3: you know you've been part of this. You know how
Speaker 3: brutal those lights are and when we when and the
Speaker 3: lighting and all that. When we film, we need to
Speaker 3: have glam because you're not gonna sit there. Sometimes we
Speaker 3: have like those workout scenes and these girls come out
Speaker 3: in full lamb, and I'm like, you know what, realistically,
Speaker 3: I don't put on makeup when I go to the gym,
Speaker 3: or I'll wear my pir whatever. But then I'm scared
Speaker 3: not to wear makeup or do my hair because I'm like,
Speaker 3: these girls are gonna go perfect and then I'm gonna
Speaker 3: look like shit in the scene. And then they put
Speaker 3: like the camera in your face and like everybody looks great,
Speaker 3: and You're like, I'll wash that out.
Speaker 2: So you know, she's in that same in that same token,
Speaker 2: Gina did her own glam the last episode.
Speaker 3: Okay, well not all of us do good lamb.
Speaker 2: I've done my I'm terrible lamb.
Speaker 3: I like to do my hair and makeup sometimes too,
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I'm not going to pay for my
Speaker 3: hair and makeup, just so like you know, to you know,
Speaker 3: go to the gym. Like one of the scenes. By
Speaker 3: the way, they do a lot of filming like working out,
Speaker 3: which I loved. I love to see you know, all
Speaker 3: the girls on this season. And then this episode that
Speaker 3: we watched, like almost all the scenes were them working out,
Speaker 3: either on the beach and the gym and whatnot. So
Speaker 3: I thought that was fun. But the other thing is like,
Speaker 3: how do you know that Jen is not like doing
Speaker 3: like barter with one or one of the.
Speaker 2: Could yeah, she could be bartering I'll post for you
Speaker 2: in exchange for.
Speaker 3: What was exactly people are always gonna say. But I
Speaker 3: just thought it was mean, like, Okay, you know how
Speaker 3: money to pay them for you have money to do
Speaker 3: lamb like that. You know you already feel like shit,
Speaker 3: they're being evicted, like you have to throw more, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I definitely did have empathy for Jen,
Speaker 2: But I also.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and besides that, like we know that we're doing
Speaker 3: a show, so I mean, I'm sure if the cameras
Speaker 3: weren't there and she was going to go have lunch
Speaker 3: with the friend. She wasn't gonna do her glam but
Speaker 3: obviously she did it because you know she's part of
Speaker 3: the show. But you know you already feel like shit,
Speaker 3: you want to at least look okay.
Speaker 2: But I can also say this my first season. I mean, granted,
Speaker 2: I did not have that many seasons, but my first
Speaker 2: season on Beverly Hills, I did not glam very often
Speaker 2: because I financially did not have the amount of money
Speaker 2: that I could glam all the time. My second season,
Speaker 2: I made more money. I never wanted to ask Edwin
Speaker 2: for money so I could glamb. So my second season
Speaker 2: I was making more money. I had now ad deals,
Speaker 2: I had sales, I had all these additional incomes. So
Speaker 2: I glammed more second season, and people gave me shit
Speaker 2: for it. They noticed it. They're like, hold, on first season,
Speaker 2: you weren't glam Now you're glammed. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: clearly you make a significant amount more your second season.
Speaker 2: But I also wasn't being evicted, and I also wasn't
Speaker 2: like it's just it's all shit. It's all shit, right then.
Speaker 3: I just think that it's like me because obviously we
Speaker 3: know the war, she's doing her glam. Like. Granted, if
Speaker 3: she was just gonna have lunch with us and she
Speaker 3: shows up in glam, then we have every right so
Speaker 3: like call her up and say, wait, you're like doing
Speaker 3: your glam to have lunch with us when you should,
Speaker 3: you know, be saving all your money to pay your
Speaker 3: rent or whatever. But in this case, you know that
Speaker 3: she's showing up to film, you know, on a show
Speaker 3: that's on national TV that everybody's watching, and you know,
Speaker 3: you just have to play the part and spend the
Speaker 3: money and what you know, maybe she does have a
Speaker 3: deal with a friend of hers that's a makeup artist
Speaker 3: that's giving her a good deal, and you know, maybe
Speaker 3: posting or whatnot. But you know, we you know, we
Speaker 3: were super critical. We always have something to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Then Shannon and Gina and Emily meet your train
Speaker 2: for their football game. Gina says she sympathizes with Shannon.
Speaker 2: Shanna apologizes to g for how she acted. Gina says,
Speaker 2: Shannon is being honest for the first time ever, which
Speaker 2: I do think we're getting more honesty from Shannon. But
Speaker 2: then we get to Tamar and Eddie eating after a
Speaker 2: bike ride. Tamara bought a house and big Bear Eddie
Speaker 2: wants to live there permanently. Tamar does not. Tamar gets
Speaker 2: upset because Shannon is lying to everybody. Eddie says, not
Speaker 2: to take it. This was I think a very good
Speaker 2: scene between a husband and wife.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I did love it. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Because Eddie is like, listen, you can't take it personally,
Speaker 2: and Tamar says she cares about Shannon and will be
Speaker 2: there if she reaches out in a heartbeat, but she's
Speaker 2: choosing herself in the moment. And then granted, they had
Speaker 2: to order a lot of food because they didn't get
Speaker 2: to eat at Heather's parties, so then they were like,
Speaker 2: let's order all the friends.
Speaker 3: Really good advice. I really, I really enjoyed that scene.
Speaker 3: It was a good husband and wife scene.
Speaker 2: I thought so too. Then Shannon and Heather meet. Heather
Speaker 2: wanted to see how she was because somebody was talking
Speaker 2: about the inappropriateness of the editor's flashback to Alexis saying
Speaker 2: let's not talk about her sex life. Heather asked if
Speaker 2: Shannon said to Tarmra before the union they need to
Speaker 2: take Heather down. Shannon says no, that she was angry
Speaker 2: with Heather, but no, to me, that means yes, I
Speaker 2: did say that, but I'm over it. And then we
Speaker 2: kind of then we finish out. We finished out with Gina.
Speaker 2: And if you right now in the moment had to pick,
Speaker 2: are you siding with Gina or Jen in this last episode,
Speaker 2: where I do find it.
Speaker 3: About picking sides honestly, between Gen and Gina, I don't
Speaker 3: know we're picking sides. I understand Gina's point of view
Speaker 3: and where she's coming from. I think she's a little
Speaker 3: bit too tough, you know, with Jen, but I mean
Speaker 3: it's hard to pick sides. I mean I understand Gina,
Speaker 3: and like I said, Gina was a very strong character
Speaker 3: in this episode, Like she was like all over the place,
Speaker 3: so many good stuff. So I was really happy with
Speaker 3: her and Jen. I mean I just need like more answers,
Speaker 3: you know, I really want to know how much your
Speaker 3: rent was and then why didn't she talk to like
Speaker 3: her parents and why didn't her fiance. I mean, I
Speaker 3: get it that they're engaged now, so maybe that's why
Speaker 3: he wanted to move her over, but I think that
Speaker 3: there's like a lot of pieces missing, you know, in
Speaker 3: her story. I mean maybe it's too soon. But I
Speaker 3: feel like there's so many, so much more missing.
Speaker 2: But I also think there's there's a moment where maybe
Speaker 2: Gina could have said to and listen. I agree. I
Speaker 2: agree with Gina, like when we look at like just
Speaker 2: you know, we put it in black and white. I
Speaker 2: agree with all with all the things that Gina saying,
Speaker 2: But I wish there was a moment where Gina said
Speaker 2: to Jen, listen, I've been where you've been, and I
Speaker 2: climbed out of and I figured it out and I
Speaker 2: did the following things. And it really concerns me that
Speaker 2: you're putting all of your eggs into Ryan's basket, because
Speaker 2: what is going to happen if that doesn't work out?
Speaker 2: Because of study was my friend and they were going
Speaker 2: through the same situation. That's what I would want, not
Speaker 2: just to shame me because gen.
Speaker 3: Didn't tell Gina, because maybe that's why she kept it
Speaker 3: from her, because she was afraid, because like are real friends,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're frindly with the person you tell
Speaker 3: your friend lies and listen, I'm in this situation. I
Speaker 3: know you've rented the house for me in the apartment,
Speaker 3: and I can't afford it. This is what's going on.
Speaker 3: And my only option right now that I see is
Speaker 3: maybe moving in with Ryan, But I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: you know, you can help me, Like that's what friends do, right,
Speaker 3: You ask your friends for advice, You help each other
Speaker 3: and support each other. But I think that Gina might
Speaker 3: be even a little bit more mad because gent didn't
Speaker 3: confide in her and didn't.
Speaker 2: And she found out on the Instagram exactly.
Speaker 3: So I think that they still have a lot more
Speaker 3: obviously to talk about and things, you know, that they
Speaker 3: need to settle before. So that's why I think Gina's
Speaker 3: like just so angry with her because you know, it's
Speaker 3: not cool, like to find out in Instagram, not only
Speaker 3: because it was her client, but just because when you're
Speaker 3: your friend, you don't expect that from your friend. Even
Speaker 3: if it's like bad news, you want to know about
Speaker 3: it and you want to try to help them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it's like, listen, I'm so sorry, I
Speaker 2: fucked up. I'm a hot mess express and I can't
Speaker 2: pay my rent. I appreciate you for doing that favor
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: But Gina has an influence. Gina could have talked to
Speaker 3: the landlord, to the owner of the property, and said, listen,
Speaker 3: my client is going to do this, but she's suddenly
Speaker 3: her divorce in sixty days and she's gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: catch up with on her rent, you know, by this date.
Speaker 3: I mean there's things I mean. To get Vista from
Speaker 3: a house, it has to.
Speaker 2: Be like I mean, But that means that she really
Speaker 2: was not confiding in Gina, which really makes me question,
Speaker 2: like who is Jen close with and who is she
Speaker 2: really confiding in? And if the only person is Ryan,
Speaker 2: there is going to be problems mm hmm.
Speaker 3: But that's especially with a guy like him that there's
Speaker 3: already so many things being said about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that brings us through this episode. I'm excited for
Speaker 2: the season. I think it's back. I'm excited every single
Speaker 2: person is giving us a little bit and I'm appreciative
Speaker 2: to it, and I'm enjoying watching the show. I watch
Speaker 2: all of the shows for as you guys know, for
Speaker 2: to Teas and a Pod and Orange County. I actually
Speaker 2: watched it twice to make sure that I was like
Speaker 2: on point with what I was talking about. So I
Speaker 2: hope you guys have enjoyed, and thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining me from Madrid to recap and I look
Speaker 2: forward to talking to you next week.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Seddi, you are same. Thank you, Bye, guys,
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening.