WEBVTT - The Bay To LA 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.400 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Rexie 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.720 Reich Jr. And Alex A. Mansell on the Digital Soapbox 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:12.360 Network material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.120 hang gun and um they believe this might be in 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:21.599 retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of The 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.599 Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso. You may be 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.280 aware of my platform, Street Gangs dot Com a k a. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.680 Street TV, where I interview gang members, rappers, hip hop artists, authors, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.280 entertainers and other influencers. And I'm here. I'm usually heard 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.519 my two co hosts, but I'm only here with who today? Right? 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.760 Reggie Right? Because James McDonald is still in Australia, living 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:47.200 it up, living it up. So um. But don't don't worry. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.960 We got a guest in the house. 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Alright, Reggie, I'm gonna let you 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.759 introduce who we got in the house today, because, uh, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.880 this is a legendary rapper that goes back to the nineties. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.480 He actually goes back to my college days. I remember 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.360 where I was when when when of his hits came out. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.600 It was the fall that it was the spring of nine, 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.400 I believe when one of his songs came out, we 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.800 were playing that song. Now everybody knows who we got. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.039 We got a young house, he had a part of 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.480 he'st Oakland's in the house. He's fourteen Street. How close 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:57.120 did you live? Fourteen fourteen? The bill is on these 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.600 That's also a ghost town. They call that sixty five 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.640 s nine. That's where Philis Mitchell was from, Little d 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.960 Little pottings on from that same neighborhood. And our ship 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.200 is basically like from East fourteenth to Damn Nea San 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.639 Angel Boulevard by the College sum and that's one of 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.160 the roughest places in Oakland to go to. Now, I'm 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.280 sure gentrification has the gentrification creeped up on the East 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.600 Oakland part um. Hell yeah, definitely. It ain't the same, 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.600 But now it's still the village. Is still the village, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.080 you know what I mean? Um Like, we've been having Vietnamese, Mexican, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.000 Cambodians and ship. Now you see a little sprinkle white 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.120 people up in there. But they changed the ship like 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.600 it looked like luxury town houses and ship don't look 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.560 like the projects used to look when I used to 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.280 live there, So they definitely switched it up for gentrification. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.600 You know, Before we get into our show with yuck Mouth, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.760 I want to reminder everybody he has a podcast as 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.079 well on the same network as us called Smoke a 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.480 Lot Radio. And what day does your show come out? 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.760 Thursday nights man, every Thursday night at midnight fucking one 0:02:54.760 --> 0:03:01.960 o'clock at night. You mean Thursday early early Thursday? Okay, 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.280 same time times come out? We come out. We come 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.800 out Wednesday. No, we come out Thursday morning. One day. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:12.120 M is Thursday morning about Thursday morning Thursday night? All right? 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.959 So Smoke a Lot Radio premier day episodes on the 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.920 same day as The Gangster Chronicles, so you can get 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.240 a two for right there. We're on the same network, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.880 the Soapbox Network and just Box, and just make sure 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.640 you go there and also listen to Uh Smoke a lot. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.639 Radio co host is Cato from l A and Simone 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:38.440 Taylor X Triple X star cod I gotta ask you 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.520 about that. What's that like having a porn star co host? 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.040 Kind of freaking we can't work, We can't forget a boy. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:53.680 Gonzo is not here on Instagram? Why okay, Well, Gonzo 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.640 got another podcast. He's got a podcast called The Gonzo Show, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.840 and that's also on the digital soap Box Network, So 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.600 go ahead and listen to that one. But we got 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.600 yuck Mouthfit. So we're here to talk about Young Yeah. Man. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.800 I've been knowing her for a long time. She used 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.200 to actually rap with us and being a rage. Her 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.520 name was Lady Ice before she started doing point three points. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.000 So you guys were shocked in surprise when she went 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.680 that railway because like point stars, no disrespect, but most 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.720 of them do that ship when they broke down and out, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.600 you know what I mean. On some somebody pimping and 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.640 ship out of him. Simone comes from a no, she's 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.760 from out here, but she comes from a very you know, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.960 not wealthy, but her family is set. She an't gotta 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.680 do the ship since I met her, and she'd been 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.520 in college driving outies and ship all the latest cars 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.800 because her parents keep it right. So she ain't got 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.080 to do that ship. She was just somebody who wanted 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.360 to do it, you know what, I don't know what. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.440 Somebody just wanted to do it, man and experienced it. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.120 But then she's still with the college, got all the 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.280 degrees and she's still in Colls getting another degree. So 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.680 she's very intelligent. So she bringing out intelligence sexy to 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.800 the you know what I mean. Though, So she had 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.559 like a short career in porn. She took a taste 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.599 of it, and you know why she decided to stop 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:13.279 because ship it's not lucrative like that, especially with the Internet. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:14.920 The end of that pretty much changed the game with 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.200 African American women. Yeah, that ship dry out quick is 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:19.720 like a good two years and then they on to 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.200 the next you know, you don't last like that. You know, 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.160 the Hispanics, you know what I mean, that Cuban or 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.240 the you know, white porn artists, you know what I mean, 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.280 they last to their old women. You can still see 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.960 them in porne, I mean old like you know what 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.160 I mean, old ones. So black black people don't have 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.800 that career and portant. That's interesting. So yeah, that's a 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.719 great little cash you got there because I know Kato. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.920 I actually just interviewed Kato for Street TV, I say that, 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.360 and he's got an incredible story. Especially this dude has 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.279 been shot three different times, I ain't know, three different 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.520 three different times. And one time, the second time he 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.800 got shot in the thigh and he almost died from 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.279 a thigh because he almost bled out and he actually 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.840 went into a coma from getting shot in the thigh. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.240 Then the third time he got shot, it's just surprising 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.280 that he survived it all through the lungs, all through 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.640 the chest, you know. So, I mean I've known Kato 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.080 for I don't know, over a decade, and um, it's 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.880 a blessing that he was alive to survive those shootings. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.800 And you got him as a co host, and he 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.840 actually told me that you looked out for him more 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.400 than any of his l A connections, A brother from 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.760 the Bear area, a brother for me, the Oakland looking 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.960 out for me more than anybody else. Just talked a 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:37.000 little bit about your relationship with Kato Uma. That's his 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:42.200 little girl. Shout out my homie, um my homie. Michaelo 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.680 Lo he from out here man. He used to hang 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.640 with Spice one. So I was trying to do a 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.920 podcast out here, you know what I mean in l A. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.479 You know what I mean, because I had already had 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.960 smoke Al Radio on Blag Talk Radio, but it was 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:55.840 just over the fun. Want to do a film podcast. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.680 So I'm like, yo, uh, you know, Michaelo, why don't 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.480 you be my co host? Because he cool, He's snappy 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.719 and he got a cool sense of him. He like, nah, nigga, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.720 you need my nigga Cato Man, this comedian nigger, the 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.320 craziest motherfucker mate. So he bought him to one of 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.480 my shows. Man, I met him backstage. Man, instantly we clicked. Man, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.080 I nigga had me dying and I mean periods. So 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.040 since then, I think that was like them there in 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.800 two thousand ten, two thousand eleven, something like that. We've 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.920 been rocking every since, you know, I mean. Then we 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.280 did end up doing Smoke Radio on be Real TV. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.440 We was there from two thousand and fourteen and two 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.560 thousand sixteen, so we already had a little formula going 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.520 before we even came over here, you know what I mean. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.920 It's like the re launch it, but we already have 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:36.640 going at be Real TV, you know what I mean. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.680 So we've been working this ship many moons. Man. I 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.640 admire his dedication, his loyal this, you know what I mean, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.080 his work ethic, you know what I mean. And in 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.680 the game you know what I mean, in the sense 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.240 of humor that he brings to the table when we 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.000 all together. You know, no, it is be Real TV 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.640 connected to Be Real from cypress him. Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.440 And I've heard you speak on on it not working 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:56.960 out over there? Can you tell us a little bit 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.720 about how you got the podcast going from would be 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.080 Real you being? And what was the falling out over 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.080 it was? Basically I got its fired. I ain't gonna 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.600 loud be really don't care, he'd be really don't care 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:15.080 about you smoking b I gave me an opportunity, you 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.640 know what I mean. We did a smoke by. She 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.760 like my personality to you know what I mean. Let 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.480 me interrupt you there that's one thing I like. I 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.360 watched a lot of people want to You know, I 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.960 been having a lot of time on my hands lately 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.200 because I got my asks in trouble. But I love 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.000 your energy. Man. You know, I watched Gonzo on them, 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.040 and I watched my boy Bosco and everybody. But man, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.120 one thing come across you. The energy that you project 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.400 out there. It's just like a positive thing. And a 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.600 lot of black men don't don't put it out there. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.040 We all try to be so tough and and but 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.040 you just put it out there. But a nice energy 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.720 man to make me watch exactly, you know what I mean, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.120 even my boy Spider. Look, everybody come off professional. You 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.199 just come up with that high energy. And you know 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.720 if you're clowning or whatever, you your something you're talking about, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.720 it's high energy. Thank you man, keep that up, bro, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:10.520 Thank you. I respect you because you your big mouthful yours. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.800 You can let Coldes ball with you. Bro. You are 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.080 not playing down. You keep your flot motherfucking neck. Man. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.000 I'll be on your ship first subscribe. When your boy 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.360 be going in. I see y'all go in on. Oh boy, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.840 I ain't gonna touched that. I ain't gonna say no names. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:38.240 I had to go down. Yeah, man quiet lately basically 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.200 the man they the first person that we ran off 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:46.120 the internet though. Hell of a job, jail man. But yeah, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.839 get back to the just be real TV situations I 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.960 flashed on TV. It was it was like a gang 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.000 of stuff that was happening behind the scenes. You know 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.040 what I mean that I thought was going on purposely. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.680 You know what I mean, like sabotage. You know, because 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.560 once you start getting into the analyt tis of things, 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.160 and when shows are raided and your shows like up 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.640 there with the top shows and probably be top show, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.800 you know what I mean, and you're getting offers, but 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.880 you want this other show to be on top of 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.080 it so the offer be right and that show would 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.160 get all the praise. They has sabotage, you Like, we 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.920 went through a season of where, uh, the whole ship 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.400 was set down for a month. Now you shut your 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.640 your ship down for a month, your honest is gone. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.599 But they kept that channel going that they wanted to 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.520 get to the top. That one channel could film every 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.360 week all through the week, but nobody else. And then 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.160 when we came back, that one channel was number one. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.040 You know what I mean, so it was just like 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.000 all types of ship. We haven't top people top NFL, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.640 like big Motherfucker's Man, Like we haven't. We had the 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.000 Westbrooks come through. No, we had the Wound Tank come 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.880 through the day. I when crazy. It was fucking ghost 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.360 Face Killer coming through and Killer Priests. They had some 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.040 ship called the wool Gloo. So they promote their little 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.160 marijuana venture thing. Now we're a marijuana show. Yeah, I 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.560 mean we smoked weed all day all this, so they 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.520 want to moote their ship. So they had the products 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.280 on the table whatnot. I'm getting phone calls like they 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.200 can't promote their ship. That's a that's a sponsorship. Now 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.280 if we mentioned them, okay, that's a sponsorship. But they said, 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.800 well you gotta take their ship off the table, and 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.199 you can't do that, it's a sponsor. This is the 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.440 one time ghost Face said I ain't coming. He got 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.040 the call from from Killer Priests, like I ain't even 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.440 come to that mother because they wouldn't allow the guest 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:29.000 tote they're there to promote their ship. Yeah, that's how 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.520 you get guests calls. They know they can't promote it, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.000 and then like they can't sit in this chair, this 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.880 is be real chair and that you guys gotta get 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.560 up and stand like, whoa this we live, we're filming, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.640 and they're telling me all this ship. You know, I 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.200 flashed on air period flashed and ship. We couldn't continue 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:47.920 after that period. But they were doing a lot of 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.880 sucker ship. I'm talking about the production people that was there, 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.120 not be real, but this ship going down be real, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.360 probably overseas somewhere doing this thing. He's never there. So 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.679 this is the people that's there running the cameras and 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.360 ship running the microphone. Them ships ain't working, the camera 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.240 ain't working, but doing too much all day it's been 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.040 working perfectly. Where we get there, the ship don't work. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.120 So it's just like a lot of ship piled up 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:11.640 and I got sick. But you could have got been 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.440 real on the phone if you really wanted to to say, hey, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.240 what's going on over here? Now? It was too much 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.960 because I already did that. I did that a thousand times. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.160 I said, Man, what's going on, what's going on? What's 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.480 going on? What's going on? What's going on? We'll check 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.080 on it. We check on and check on it. Man, 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.160 Why this person doing this? Why this person doing that. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.599 If I got a sponsorship and it's paying for you, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.960 I mean it's giving you your half of the sponsorship 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.720 or your part that should pay for the cameras and ship. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.640 I started getting this like, oh well you gotta pay 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.520 the camera cool to work there, Like, no, they don't. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.760 I pay for the services with my sponsorships. That ain't 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.640 what what the sponsorship going towards? Yeah? Have you had 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.880 Have you been able to talk to be real after everything? 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.679 You know, after everything was over, I was just like, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.520 I need to be in the smoke box all that 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.079 ship interviews here we still funk with each other. You 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.319 know that it was his staff that was sucking with 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.319 me heavy. You know, half the mothercker's don't even work 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.800 there no more. So he guy that he's seeing what 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.000 I was saying, you know, okay, well other than I 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.240 always seeing he see you here every week? Uh. In 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.559 two thousand seventeen, year was at the premiere for Who 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.719 Killed Tupac? Which was a four six episode I know 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.760 you was at the He was at the premiere at 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.520 the red carpet premiere for Who Killed Tupac? Which was 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.360 a six episode show on Annie. I'm sure you already 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:26.439 watched it. You weren't in that one, and so I 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.480 wanted to ask you, did you know Tupac and you 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.360 have a relationship with him, because obviously you were there 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.400 because of some connection to park Nah affiliation Okay, I 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.959 mean association, but not the homeboy. He was an older nigger. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.800 He was like with my cousin, the girl, you know 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.800 what I mean, in his homie Richie rich and what 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.800 I mean. So they was because he spent time in 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.839 the Bear and so I thought, you guys crossed paths. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.520 He was out with my cousin, you know what I mean, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.599 if he wasn't with Digital Underground and Ray Love and 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.400 then Mountain Marian when he came to Oakland, he was 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.079 with my cousin, the girl Nigga's in a seminary, you 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.240 know what I mean. So that's how I know about him. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.000 For my cousin and period. They was older. But far 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.120 as working with him, numb and Jude don't got to 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.640 work with him, you know what I mean. I was 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.439 locked up and the twin tiles Drew Down bumped into 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.640 him at the mom you know, Drew Down bumped into 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.880 him at the hotel when when Faith was there, Drew 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.080 was there when Faith, and he sent him up, gave 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.800 him a town car and he went up there, and 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.320 I remember he standing up there at the at the 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.200 lobby came in and he came in and laid it down. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.320 That's the that's the next day after that. But he 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.680 was there when Faith came to the room because it 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.000 was a big site. At seeing Drew down in the lobby, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.800 I knew that and said pop upstairs and took Drew 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.000 down up there. So but Drew was a witness to 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.640 Faith coming to the room that night, you know what 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.560 I mean. So that's why he was on the song. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.880 That's why he called me call on thet Now I'm 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.960 got got on um one nation. You know he's doing 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.240 the one So now I've got on one nation. Yeah, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.360 didn't make that session. Be gonna be doing an interview 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.000 that Uh, we're gonna be doing it probably tomorrow, hopefully 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.720 tomorrow night. But when the one Nation out, one thing, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:07.880 I think you won't keep me. They just give me 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:14.320 a check to stay away from. Now. I know you've 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.760 been asked this question a thousand times, but the I 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:25.080 got five on this song. Take me through that through 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.200 the creation of that monster hit Man. Because I was 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.800 at us. I was a senior, and you had every 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.040 college kid in my circle that here in l A. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.360 It was a combination everybody man. Everybody played their position. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.920 Man came up with the idea that's my rap partner 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.640 and the louts. He came up with the idea to 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.800 make a song about what it takes to buy the 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.200 weed and said that, you know, everybody had songs about 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.240 getting high, but we're in the era where now we 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.480 buy pounds and ship all that ship ounces and ship buying, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.800 buying five sacks, ten sacks, Tony sack you with the mayor, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.320 you were found the twenty sack. That's why that's what 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.120 I got five. I used that nigger. I was like 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.280 buying the ounce back then as far as a little nigger. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.320 So it took, like, you know, everybody to pitch in five. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.680 Rather it was a ten sack or dub sack. Four 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.840 people put in five. So none came up with the concept. Um. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.720 I came up with the idea to use the club 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.840 new vote Uh song that white You treat Me So 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.160 bad CNH exactly. Producer came with the idea to use 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.240 Tone Capone the producer to remake it. And when I 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.720 said that I made the hook and it sound right. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.480 I mean it sounded cool, but just rapping it was 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.160 like a tone Capone knew Mike Marshall from the time 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.640 Max Social Club that actually was part of the club 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.360 New Vote, you know what I mean, the actual originators, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.000 you know what I mean? So he got help the 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.840 senor hook and ship. The rest is hitting. Do you 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.680 ever get tired of hearing people say that I got 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.120 five on it? I guess you want to slap somebody sometime. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.200 Never the hell, It's become like part of our culture 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.960 now people say that, hey, I'm about to go to 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.560 the store, got I got five on it? You know, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.400 it's just it's probably said every days, hundreds of times 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.920 in this country, right right. So how that publishing deal 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.480 work out for you? Nice? Nice? Nice? How that's what 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.920 people don't know? That's what you're making this money from. Yeah, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.800 when they're publishing deal. Now, we we recoop that already, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.480 Big John, know what's up? We been recoop that. Yeah, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.320 but we we got we put us in position. We 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.240 got a lot of money. Mandall, did you win in 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.000 you know and the awards from not from mascot um 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.040 we got uh, we actually got a Grammy nominated, not 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.600 for five on it, but from working with Quincy Jokes 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.040 for what get on his back on the block too. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.640 I think it's five on. It was too too get 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.760 old for him. Then, No, no Grammy's none of that 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:50.280 ship So no soul Train, none of that ship man. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.360 We gotta we got nominated for the Source Awards. We're 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.359 just there with Sugar and them to ship up that 0:17:55.480 --> 0:18:01.600 year New York. Yeah, nominated was it was the lonely Outcast, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.919 myb deep and who else I wanted? It was groups 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:12.200 little groups, dog pound and dogs and dog pounds and outcasts. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:19.479 Remember I was there. That was when we got nominated. Now, 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.840 when you came out with that album, the Internet was 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.520 just starting. The Internet was brand new. Did you guys 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.879 ever like think about the internet back then in ninety 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.080 five or that wasn't even a thought in your minds? 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.800 And now about download that's what Drake soon and on 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.600 about to get all this ship back. Now, nobody knew 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:47.080 about downloads. It wasn't contrast my little little digital because 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.360 two thousands they just started mentioning them contracts about two 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.280 thou that's crazy because I was at I was at 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.760 school in ninety five computers, and we had When I'm 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.879 on the Internet, I'm hyping up Looney's on the computer. 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.520 And six because we're at school, I would tell people, Hey, 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.800 go to the internet. What's the internet? Remember you Tube 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.800 didn't come out to what like YouTube came out of five? 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:17.119 On YouTube? We had Google, always had Google Search. No Google, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.360 Google wasn't even out nine five. It was Yahoo, y'all 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.879 who existed. And there were some other databases that are 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.280 no longer around something um some male like some some 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.359 type of males, but they were still sewing motherfucker's for 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.119 downloads retro actor. You gotta think, by g that's the 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.520 pager days. We got our motherfucking page that's to burn out, 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.119 Like you had to be a boss to have a 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.359 motherucking mobile phone. And that's when motherfucker's had the cold 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.600 and can switch to colds and ship and only the 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.960 d boy the King Pats had that pages colorful seat 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.640 through pages at that So, yeah, we didn't have a mother. 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:58.240 Only know about boots. Like the last time I saw 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.000 spoil about spoil, I had to hit no phone booth, 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.360 keep extra checking into your pocket, call I'll call home 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:11.520 and hang up. I had a dope thing like, but 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.680 maybe at the phone book be the meet up spot 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:20.239 you sell your work, get into a couple of more 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.360 a couple of topics. Now I wanted to just keep 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.040 you The interview was like going viral all over. Then all, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:31.600 what's seventy five parts? It's I think going to be issues. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:36.400 I have interview two and a half hours, he said, 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:38.920 two and a half hours, but he said keep you 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.520 d stopped him about about ten times. I had it 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.640 to go outside with the guy that actually wrote the book, 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:49.879 and so he said, man, it was one of the 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.760 worst interviews he ever. He said, man, I had to 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.879 stop that interview and keep you here, going const with 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.800 with the writer and they didn't come back and that 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.160 and that's answer the questions and stuff. But it's gonna 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.000 be twenty six parts. It's probably his most viewed video 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:11.639 of the year. Yeah. It started off flow, yeah, James, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.080 and was kicking buttah right and then right. But now 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:16.760 he's starting to get the view and I'm sure you 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.040 checked out a couple of parts, y'all. I mean, this 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.880 dude was once a guy that was revered and respected 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.080 in the streets. But I don't know how people are 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.679 feeling about him nowadays. Um I think like personally, um 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:34.360 me just coming from the streets, Um lad asked them 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.560 tricky questions, the tricky street questions. You know what I mean. 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:40.440 That it's on you to answer that ship or avoid it, 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:42.639 you know what I mean. So even with me, like 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.480 he asked me some tricky ship and I had to 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.480 go back about one of my street stories and I 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.720 had to come back to the neighborhood and ask about that, 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.880 you know what I mean, because street tales is supposed 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.760 to stay in your neighborhood, your street. Whoever know that 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.000 you're clothes something that should ain't supposed to be broadcast 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.119 on interviews or on the internet. No ship like that, 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.680 because what happened in the past, all that ship could 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.400 be reignited. People old feelings could become new feelings again 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.000 because the nigger talking about old ship that people don't 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.879 get passed, you know what I mean. So that's the 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.040 same thing I feel about the tv D thing, Like 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:15.080 you know what I mean, You wrote your book, bro, 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:16.840 you know what I mean to tell people, go get 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.720 the book man, try and try to do that. But 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.680 let me and Glad would't let him get away with that. 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.359 But my question to you would be, UM, me, you 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.560 and Alex right now and do something and we start 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:36.639 facing twenty five life. Uh, somebody's dead. That's James. He's 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:42.520 gonna get mad, but James and he and for us 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.560 to get out of this, this twenty five to life. 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.800 And we exposed something that everybody kind of knew that 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:55.400 went down about James and to get us to save 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.760 our butts who are still alive and facing life. Is 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.520 that the true? Hell? Yeah, because at the end of 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:08.280 the day, if and it helped James's he's dead. I say, 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.959 and and you you, you guys have locked up us 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:15.520 three we locked up, are facing it, are facing facing 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.520 and you say something, man, you say something that get 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.240 us clear, get us clear. But you're snitching on him. 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:28.640 But I'm telling the man nagged man. I mean, yeah, 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.679 they got it. Man, that's tricky. That's tricky. That's real tricky. 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:36.800 That's how the tricky bro. And I don't know that 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.639 SA's the position keep I can't even Yeah, that's it, 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.520 that's exactly. Now it gets a little tough because now 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:50.440 it's the two people that he's saving is a Lando's 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.840 mother and uncle. Wow, they got a problem with it though, 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:56.960 they don't. They got a problem with She had a 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.280 stroke when she found out what he did. Her brother, 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:04.399 her brother, her brother did the first son not a 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.800 stroke from it. But his argument or his defense was, hey, 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.639 we were done. I had to save us. They were 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.520 about to take all our ship that we worked for. 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.000 We did all, they were taken all our property. They 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.920 would threaten to the lock us all three away for 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.159 twenty five in life. Now do you believe they that 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.760 the mom would have went to prison as well? Or 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.199 you can keep putting some extras on it. Yea, they 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:31.520 would do with PCP, PCP drow. They treat every black 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:42.800 man drug a lot worse crack cocaine than PCP is life. Yeah, 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.440 black guy could call with that ship goes up. But 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.040 I want your opinion on that kind of I mean 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.040 it's it's kind of dry, sick snitching. Yeah, it's fascination 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.000 at the end of the day, man, because not only 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.760 is this your nephew, Yeah, I mean it's you too, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:01.960 my nigga, Like, yeah, from ship your mouth because I 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:06.840 don't think murder, it's no is it um what you 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:13.679 call murder because you know, no statue of liv take. 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.440 But what he did was he told it all in 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:24.639 he got diplomatical number one. Yeah, but he don't even 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.320 have immunity because number one is still a Vegas case 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:34.200 and SOFA fans, the fans can't even because it's a 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:38.520 municipal Vegas case and so technically they don't have to 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.800 honor it the d A. And yeah, that's y'all thing. 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.240 But the thing is now we can't share this evidence 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.280 that we have against him to you guys. So this 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.240 is what happened, but you can't do nothing with it, 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:56.240 can't do now. So that's that's that's the here's the 0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.400 way I would ask he made the book came after, 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.800 just came out, just came out. He didn't talk on 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:09.520 two different platforms death chronicles and run around. He looked 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.000 better at in the previous interviews, you know. And he's 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.480 supposed to have cancer. What you've been claiming to have 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.760 concer for a while. But he's supposed to have cancer. 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.040 But this is what Greg Gating's in two thousand twelve 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:27.600 came with and hit him with. And um, I don't know, 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.480 I need to be hard to save my The only 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.800 problem is saving yourself. I have a problem with. But 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.600 the same my dad, my my my brother and my 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.240 sister and stuff like that. But the problem will come 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.119 when you're saving yourself and well, here's another way to 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.240 look at it. I don't know. I mean, snitching has 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.159 been defined in so many different ways, right, It's usually 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:52.359 you're providing information to law enforcement to arrest, to charge, 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.000 or to help pursue someone else, to save yourself. In 0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:01.400 this situation, Keifi didn't didn't do any of that, Okay, yeah, 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:07.959 uh he And this is he helped he Well, they 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.840 thought he was going to help with's getting that four 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.320 hunted mellion dollar judgment against the City of Los Angeles 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:17.240 on the Biggie matter dismissed. But he flipped the script 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.920 on him. I said, no, we're not responsible for that one. 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.280 We're responsible for the one in Vegas. And then that's 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.439 when they go whoa and tell us about that one. 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.520 And he had to lay it out. So at the 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.160 end of the day, no one gets arrested from Kifi 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.160 D's confession, no one gets charged, no one goes to prison. 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.720 So who do you snitch on? I know you're gonna 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.920 say jo snitch and yuck. But at the end of 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.880 the day, I think kif E D played the police, 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.399 and and and had a strategic plan to get out 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.280 of this situation and make sure nobody's gonna go to jail. 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.359 He told the truth. Yeah, he told the truth, told 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.560 the truthful. But he knew that if now he make 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.440 sure he had immunity before he told he didn't he 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.000 that's he had the only thing he got. This serm 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.120 case that we got on you, and this cocaine case 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.760 that we got on you. We can't when when we're 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.080 not going to try you or or take this against 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.840 use this against you, to put you in jail for 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:25.240 life forgiving us this information. That's the only thing right 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.200 now today you get the mother to do a bill 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.960 Cosby d A and go run on the platform. I'm 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.399 gonna put kep d in jail for that case for 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.840 doing that. And you can do that. They can't take 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.120 the confession he gave to Cating as evidence to Catings. 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.960 He didn't get confessions to me over the phone. I 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.640 didn't play some tape recording. They got it right there. 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.360 They got different chronicles that he didn't talked on and 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.760 then and then and they got glad in you and 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.640 the case in the book, in the book. But as 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.959 you could tell man I was crazy. I made it up. 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.240 I was just trying to you know, that would be 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:11.239 his defensive I was just attorney. But let's be silent. Man. 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.080 Both murders, the big end of Pack, nobody trying to 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.400 solve them because it's too much corruption, and the Biggie one, 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.120 and that leads to the pack shit. So well, Reggie 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.200 would disagree with you on that one. Well about what 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.760 you just said, it's too much corruption connected to the 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.560 Biggie homicide that happened in that confusion. I don't believe 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.120 the police was involved in the Biggie the bigg matter. 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.280 I believe what what the evidence and murder out uh 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:41.720 reveal z accurate, which it was just one shooter. I 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.080 believe that that's what everybody said. You've never heard him 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.760 say two people sitting in the car. You have never heard, 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.880 never heard that, And in your mind, the homicide of 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.600 Biggie is not corrected to a conspiracy link to any 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.240 law enforcement entities at all. You know, we always say 0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.280 police officers are good assassins or killers and all of that. 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.440 You want us to believe that this man used his 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:11.640 own personal vehicle to commit a homicide. David mac and 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.640 that's the only reason he linked to it is because 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.160 he had a black impollo and he took off work. 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.520 That's not the only theory. The other theory is a 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.840 mere Muhammad ak Harry Billips. Well, that was his friend 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.760 of David Matt who was never a police officer. He 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.080 wasn't a police officer. But no, no, but David Mack 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.600 supposed to use his car. Correct if you believe the 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:36.560 Harry Billips theory. I don't see it being crazy that 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.760 you use your own car, because, like you just said, 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.840 they're not thinking you're gonna use your own car, so 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:46.440 you reverse it nobody. Okay, Well, why would he robbed 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:51.480 the bait he read it a car? Why did he 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.760 walk into a bank on knowing this cameras embe knew 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.640 that was David MG and he was the reason they 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.600 card him. Knew that on leave? What because his woman 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.680 that was working inside of the bank gave him up. Yeah, 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.640 the girlfriend that was the bank teller, she was not 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.600 the bank tellers, was the manager. She don't want to 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.440 order all the money. Yeah, So that's you would think 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.280 to yourself, why would a police officer have a chick 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.800 that works in the bank use this chick to help 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.480 him rob at seven hundred racks, and I think this 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.840 chick's gonna wrap me out when he comes. They'll be 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.440 talking when they laying next to you in the being, 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:36.520 They'll be talking. Yeah, but how many people? Yeah, but 0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.440 how many people are? Then you get in that room, 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:49.320 we are You're gonna say, David Mack wasn't that smart 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.960 because how many interrogations has he done with people knowing 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.720 once the police started interrogating my girl that works in 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.360 the bank, she's going to still the beans because I've 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.480 made people spill the beans. She told me, she's told you. 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.400 We thought, and then I thought, even if she did 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:07.160 give me a she lied. She I don't know what 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:12.760 calling that day. We love females, you know, like how 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.480 they have our back, but they're gonna be the first 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.280 one to crack my Never put them involved anything criminal. Yeah, 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:22.000 you don't. Never bring in especially if she ain't even 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.960 from the street. A lot of them from she wasn't 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.520 from the street. I'm saying, especially even after the stream 0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.360 the streets, they got too much a little, they're gonna 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.040 volte like old Line Strey. They're gonna volde man so 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.440 so David Mack was done for that, thinking, oh, this 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.600 girl's gonna have my back when when the police come, 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.640 that's call the naives that she ordered the money. She 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.560 ordered the money and the amount that they never even 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:51.080 ordered money order. Yeah, biggest she probably did before it 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.280 on even did when you get caught. No, they just 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.760 they said that that amount of money had never been ordered. 0:32:56.240 --> 0:33:00.560 So she ordered a bunch of money and then that 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:05.000 money disappears, and she would have stayed strong. She just 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:10.520 cracked as expected, though as expected, as expected, as expected, 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.400 not by David mcapparently, No, the other detectives got her 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.000 the crack I'm talking about. She cracked as expected, She 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.240 spilled the beans. She ran everybody situations where females hasn't 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.760 cracked this one. Did you got the perfect ship going 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.600 down with Curtis Jackson power? You see what I mean? 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:33.320 Females cracking and that show? What are you talking about? 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:39.800 Hands kind of got She's about the Tasha home Girl, 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.760 They about the Yeah yeah, the most gangster woman in 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:50.040 that show was the d A Angela. Yeah. Yeah, Hey, 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:56.760 spoiler spoiling, We're gonna tell you here here first wait wait, wait, 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.240 are you going to ruin the show for all our Listen, 0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.920 you don't know what this is. Regie is a good 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:06.480 ship to me, and this is this Reggie version. I 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.840 don't know that it's gonna be a whole new season. 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:10.880 Well no, yeah, because you know, I guess who just 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:16.759 got the job. Yeah, but this is what's up with that. 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:21.239 It was a dream, y'all. Watch Angela didn't get shot 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.560 by Tommy. No, it's a dreamy watch there was some 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.800 things that she never told him. Hey, tom Tommy and 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:33.440 Tasha came to the house and and was pushing up 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.040 on me. She didn't say that to him, and that's 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.560 gonna be major if if she got shot by Tommy 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:46.200 and all that. It's a dream, trust me. Remember you're speculating, speculating, 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:52.279 said Reggie. Yeah, but y'all want gonna say, y'all hurt 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.520 here first it was a dream. That's a good theory. 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.800 You might go back and watch the another show. What 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.799 else you want to say about kept before we move? 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.440 I mean, I think at the end of the day, man, 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.400 but Ladder is good at what he's doing. Man, and 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.279 y'all gotta watch you know what I mean? How y'all 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.320 give y'all game to that dude? When he's you know, 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.600 talking about real street ship, not just his platform. You 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.640 checked him at the end of your interview with him, 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.839 told me to interrogation. Yeah, in fact, the only one 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.759 and everybody start trying to file out and they get 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.000 the police all of a sudden. Yeah, he's been check 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.000 a couple of times since what year was that interview? 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:27.440 Seventeen And a few times I kept telling him. I 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.719 was like, your boy, he keep telling your boy. That 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.799 was my way like telling him, you know, you keep 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.200 hating no ship. You know, well, you know I kind 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.640 of asked him. I didn't. I didn't really appreciate his style. 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.160 I brought it up. We have a lad on the 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.160 show about three episodes ago, so if you're seeing him 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.960 that day when when we was exactly so. Yeah, I 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.320 just don't like how you interrogate people man, like like 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.920 give all this, like like the platform to promote their ship. Man, 0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.120 you don't even mention like what they got going with, 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.759 none of that, like no ship about the artists they sell? 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.040 What ventures? Okay, you in the stocks and should ask 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.400 them what type of you know, financial investments house profolio, 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:09.360 try you know what I mean. Yeah, definitely stopped so 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.200 much about his portfolio on the Breakfast Club. I didn't 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.120 even know, Like, damn, you're part of this. That in 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.319 the third shares and it's that in the third other 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.000 situations you can ask niggas about besides crime. You feel me, 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.440 And that's all I'm saying. My big manager from the 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.120 Bay were just like that guy. Man. First guy took 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:30.960 me to Mr Child's Man and the nineties Child's ever since, Man, 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.440 I funk with it. Man, I was just was there 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.279 for my I'll be trying to eat that. I don't 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.239 know what I can eat this foo foo for me? 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.040 Tell me what recommend them for me? Okay, So Felippe 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.279 Child has was doing the salt pepper lobster and salt 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.160 pepper shrimp. So that's the fried lips and the fried shrimp. 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:57.120 So go there for that. That's him salt pepper shrimp 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.399 and the salt pepper lobster. You know they chopped the sauce. 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.600 It ate that sauce as fried as good as fun 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.879 period and you can throw your little fried rice a little. 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.279 I'll still go to the get old spot. I like. 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:11.520 I like that Christaceans even though and let go I 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:16.040 know that I know that's still that still get on. 0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:21.000 You're going to every black chicken for birthday and the 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:27.080 birthday yeah, facts, it used to be the you know, okay, 0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.200 I took me there, him and Banks and ship Man 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.160 managed forty and too short, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:40.960 that's my old joke I heard on town Official Man. 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.080 We actually Drew don first album. We recorded in Dangerous 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.600 Studio and Banks did all the beats, Pimper the year, 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.239 all that ship. So he was all up on a 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.719 one umbrella at one point in time and then you 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.959 know the ship is separated. But shout out, too short, 0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.000 shout out, and he basically gave me a song. He 0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:01.400 made Brian Turner so mad on chronic too thousands and 0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.719 I forget the name, what was it, Drinks on me 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.880 or something, But he was like, they never gave me 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:12.440 a song. This good work, ain't no motherfuck choke on 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.400 the beach man a't know he had too short bang 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.080 and like all the ship that he was behind was 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.760 getting platinum pleux. Facts. When he was behind that short 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.279 him and sucking up what's his name, Shoty b with 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.520 the motherucking good talk play with him, two niggers was 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.680 on it. It was a rap he had all the hits. 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.160 Man shout the funky all that ship you talking about? 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:36.720 You made me thinking about boy l a dre Alright, 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:41.040 go ahead. Fasna also asked about the role that too 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.760 Shortest played and putting Oakland on the map like he's 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:48.200 he's the king up between him and hammer like hammers 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.520 that the king king? Is that right? I put too 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:55.719 Short beforehand. I mean have a raps hammering with mainstream 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.680 and he I'm talking about farest sales far at like impact, 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.880 who sold the most albums ever in the Bay Area 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.440 just ham a period, because it's hell the people that 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.560 came out the Bay You gotta forget the singers, the 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.200 ambos and Tony Tony Tony's is a lot of people 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.680 that came out here that sold just as many of 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.319 more albums. And too Short so you can't just say 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.960 he's the top now far as the rap he's the 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.160 top because he started the independent ship and everybody fouled 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.239 his blueprint and the Bay Area far as the independent game, 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:28.879 so he could say he's the independent king who over 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:36.399 forty forty doing no independence short but I always thought 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.320 how to deal now sure it was always out the 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.359 trunk until he got the drive. You know, my only 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.560 Tepo handon put him out, you know what I mean. 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.040 The seven girls on the first albums, you know what 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:52.600 I mean, they put too short out, came out way back. 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.840 I would always gave forty the trunk and then for 0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.520 he came out the trunk too. Yeah, the like the 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.319 king of that. You know. Hammer came out a lot 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.160 of us here in l A. I wasn't feeling Hammer 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.040 right righte it was. It was a lot of disrespect 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.560 throning in his direction. But I'm I'm guessing up in 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:20.000 Oakland because he's representing Oakland. People loved him regardless. I 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.040 guess I was a weird or something. I remember when 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.840 the came out there threw darts at it at Capitol Records. 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.600 Tell you this, My g got them big ass pads 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.040 he had got there with the crotches. They wearing them 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.720 right now, ain't they with the crotch over the skinny 0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.040 leg Niggs bought them back. All the skinny James dudes 0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.640 got the big crotch joints going pas. Let's let's let's 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.360 do the history now. Y'all wearing Hammer pans right now 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.640 with a big crotches that came from the hammer pans. 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.840 How did you feel about him and buying the helicopter, 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.640 for that's what he always got to be ye put 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.960 that in my son dope man. Yeah, man, we really 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.359 didn't like it. It open because like right he did, 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.640 it was a big sweet that was a ninety one, 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.200 and my whole neighborhood got swept and all our king 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.600 pins got swept. And I was there in the projects 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:12.960 because FBI a t f um uh d e a 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:19.160 um ambalances highway performance cars out there for high speed chases. 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.200 The whole project. They're onwn rules everything, kicking it down 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.240 bile at the same time six am. Everybody should getting 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.840 kicked down all through East Okeland, West Oakland, all the 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.839 ship getting here at one time. And it's right after 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.840 the helicopter was bought, you know what I mean. So 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.759 we all felt some type of way out there and open, 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.120 like come on, bro, like we love you, you know 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.960 what I mean. But god damn helicopters. One thing I 0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:41.880 can say about him when he was hanging around us, 0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.280 I've never seen him and a drink, smoke or curse. 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.880 Im ain't no joke neither like these was trying to 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.799 talk ship man on the third base. Motherfucker shook when 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.600 they came out here. You know what I mean. He 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.520 don't allegedly you know what I mean, His crew ain't playing. 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.560 That's what I'm saying. I gonna say he's like the 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:06.920 real deepm never never believe it enters. It must have 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.400 been real costly too. Yeah, the only problem. That was 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.600 the only problem. At the end of the day. They say, 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:17.080 like ham must broken. Man started Google, he started with 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.960 top shares in Google. Like he get paid man like 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:24.200 uh shack, And Hamble was one of the first people 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.840 they got at the big shareholders in Google. Man. So 0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.399 he's go cheat man. That to be looking at ship 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.040 above the surface like oh it's music ain't popping, so 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.680 he ain't getting a shipload of money. He's go cheat man. 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.040 I think it's when people filed bankruptcy, they think you're broke. 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.040 I think he might file bankruptcy, but I'm not sure. 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.120 But I don't mean you're broke if you file bankruptcy. 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:48.759 Donald Trump filed bankruptcy in his one business. And sometimes 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.400 you have people suing you. So that's the way to 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.480 get out of you file a chapter eleven on your 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.839 LLC or your corporation or whatever, just to get out 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.719 that lawsuit, just to get and that's sometimes ship, you know. 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.239 I mean, come with a new LLC SIMP similar death 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.200 Row Forever and death Row Records, but you're still using 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.320 the same ship and you back at it. And he 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.719 got these record labels do when they saw all these 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.920 artists big money, they switched that mother and foul chap 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.799 that lapping on your ass. So it's a business strategic move. 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.239 But don't mean you broke. Yeah, you know a lot 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.759 of times. Well I don't think two shorters of times, 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:29.800 but sometimes and two shorters actually lasted the test of 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.840 time too. I mean he's still relevant right now. He 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:38.480 always returned and come up with my last album show 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.920 they playing with Motherfucker's or motherfucking forty forty just dropped 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:47.279 the paper man those y'all need to get that show 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.680 together lit though, if you guys opening and forty and 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:55.719 uh and who was just talking about? Yeah, like that's 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.640 the show that you would go to one now when 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.719 you was running death Throw, you never signed any of 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:02.960 these artists from the How many Barry artists did you guys? 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:11.160 You got? Laughing? Let me tell you, let me I'll 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:15.200 tell you what you have, you're gonna allow. This is 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:21.719 what happened to. So I went up to the prison. 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.399 I was like, man, Dance just did the beats because 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.400 we had went up and shot that only in California though, um, 0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.400 the only in California video, right, And so I'm so 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:32.879 Das was doing that. Man. He played me these songs 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:34.200 because I used to live in the Marina and they 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:35.759 used come over my house talking with me at the 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.279 Marina City Club every morning, and Dance is coming there 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.840 and playing me just this is macdude, This is macdude. 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.959 I was like. And so I go to the prison. 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.719 I go, yeah, you know, Dad's got about four or 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.040 five beats already done, songs already done on this dude, 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.560 they Mac and he go mac Drey. I go, yeah, 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.480 I think that's your name. I think that's the thing. 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.480 He said, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Rish get him, get 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.799 him right. I go back up there. Yeah, I got 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.800 you know what he called seventy five dollars and we 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.680 got the fly songs and everything, and so he said 0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.239 he hadn't bring the nigga, you know, haven't filled out 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.799 visiting form. Let me come and meeting. He came walking 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:27.960 in the visiting room. It was shot and what was 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.840 the error? Where everybody there was Max something man, and 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:34.360 y'all got your Max confused. He said, we know signed 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:38.359 somebody from signed this motherfucker from the Bay to pop 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:44.600 motherfucker Marrow Chicot. That's true because that's the hardest. The 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.600 New York rapper, a Baltimore rapper, a Bay Area rapper, 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.719 on l a rapper. I contend to consider him an 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.759 Oakland rapper because he got his game from Oakland. When 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:58.880 he was in Baltimore, Baltimore. He's doing his acting ship Baltimore, 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.640 New Yorker saying when he got to Marin City, he 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.759 started rapping with the digital underground niggers, and then when 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.160 he got to Oakland and starting with the Richie Richard, 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.560 the good real niggers in the streets cutters, cut the motherfucker. 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.520 Because in Oakland we wear ball heads. It's called the 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.680 Louisville you know what I mean. When pimps and Ship 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.480 was wearing all the perms and ship, real street niggas 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.840 went with the ball heads. Bro niggas went doing all 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.279 hot tops. Don that ship, Real street niggas, you know 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.360 what I mean, periods. So Park went to Oakland and 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:33.120 got the ball head. Freeze got the ball head folks. 0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.680 We had ball heads in Oakland and little Caesars and 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:40.240 ship man terms and we did have but it was pimps. 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.160 That really was pips side in the Palms Street nigga 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.040 Hustling nigga had that same ship too, but the real 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.840 killers and hitters on the Black ball Head niggas, So 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.799 they always feel like they were in California. But they 0:46:55.840 --> 0:47:01.960 had a sound mentality, y'all. They have bolted them all 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:06.960 they got Freezing. I was like, you don't know, Like 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.360 I don't know about out here, but a lot of 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.400 us from California family. Our roots is from the South 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:18.880 corrects from New Orleans. It's all that ship. So you 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.640 don't write from down there. So it's only in that stuff, 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.800 you know, it's in our blood. It's like that. I 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.920 always left from that. Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.360 We migrated. You forgot We migrated and slavery ship. We 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.239 migrated when that ship was free in the eighties and 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:49.319 the nineties. We're still doing right. See nugget nuggets, old 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:53.160 school nugget on your pockets. A Bay Area rapper, you know, 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.880 that's that's the general consistency because it got gamed up 0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.239 in oak Marin City was treacherous too because it John 0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.719 Goes ain't no more sucking jail the projects he was 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.320 living in in Marin City. And so a combination of 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.080 both what was digital underground based and just the underground 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.799 is like Berkeley Oakland, combination of of all that ship 0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.440 they didn't have like one spot then based in Oakland 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:15.160 or mainly you know what I mean. But it was 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:20.120 a combination of Maren Berkeley were shot from Oakland, Oakland, Okay, 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.960 from in Florida, and I think, yeah, I think he's 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.680 from Well they put them, they put him on in 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.279 that album. I think it was they gave him one 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.439 line and it was the hardest line of the song 0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:36.960 when same was the song the same song, Yeah, like 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:46.600 two verses. So he was mad at digital us. What 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:51.239 sign oh exclusive and I know what it is. They 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.960 didn't pay me no money when they were signing to 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.200 the group. Why didn't sign him that? The thing was 0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.680 they would never signed him to the group. They treat 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:03.800 him like a roadie. They didn't see the potential. But 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:07.200 his first solo album him as he got it, well, 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.919 he produced, producing a lot of Yeah, that guy would 0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.200 never sign him as a group. So we went back 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.480 to a video shoot that they were doing. Uh it 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:20.680 was in April, April of nineties six, and he wanted 0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:22.960 to go with this to shine on him because he 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.800 was always mad. I was at that video. It was 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.920 the one where he came and took one of the 0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.160 niggas bitches form a video. He came in the drove 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:36.879 and he had he came to shine. I was there 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.680 a video. I was there, and I don't mind speaking 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.600 about I was there. It was called the Regno Floe. 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:46.040 It was like the little It was in in in 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.719 the factory and had all the little set with the 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.200 rocks and ship was still feeling salty even though he 0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:55.480 had already achieved a success. And then he took the 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.040 baddest model that was in the video, left with the 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:03.000 bitch and dropped top and bounce right. Lawyer you know 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:09.520 he was he was, Yeah, he shut the video down. 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.640 I ain't. I ain't because he never never signed him 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.239 in the group, even though did do a lot of 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.960 the Beasts for his album that you know, Interscope eventually. 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:23.960 That's crazy man. He learned something new every day. And 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:25.239 that's a hell of a history. And that's what you 0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.279 get when you listen to the games to chronicles, all 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.600 kind of stuff that you've never heard of before, and uh, 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.360 it gets revealed first here. But before we wrap it up, 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.760 we got to talk about all these conspiracy theorists videos 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:40.480 creating content on the depth of Nipsey Hustle. I know 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.759 you've got something to say about this, man. I said 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:45.600 something on my YouTube, man, and all the motherfucking people 0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:50.239 went crazy. I think Reggie was like, Man, yeah, nah, 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.080 I wasn't talking about people that just talking about it 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.080 in general, you know what I mean. I'm talking about 0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:59.000 people that's falsely accusing people like it's just a dangerous 0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.760 thing to do because you don't got to walk these streets. 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.000 These people gotta walk these streets and deal with your 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.680 false ass acquisations like they're getting death threats, they're getting 0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:09.879 physically threatened, you know what I mean. They gotta walk 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:12.719 around the gross and they put a big you and 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:17.560 telling any facts about that, no facts talking about big You. 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:20.560 You're talking about Cowboy, you're talking about Grandpaul, you're talking 0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.120 about his business partners. Now jay Z has something to 0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:27.959 do it louminaughty, Like this ship is going crazy for views, 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:31.520 for views and subscribers, and you're putting real people life 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:35.160 in danger. Man, that's not cool for sponsorships and views. 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:36.959 That's all I was saying. Now, a lot of people 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:43.760 got and unfortunately a lot of not even from out here, hiding. 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:47.600 They don't even show them. So like people like us, 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:52.279 we're out here. They all know what I'm telling you 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:55.400 out here, bro, come backstage with these people got shows 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.960 with all these motherfuckers. I see the managers everything back. 0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.120 I gotta deal with it. So when I say ate 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.120 something that's gonna be actual and factual and I can 0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:04.560 stand on it. I'm not gonna put nobody in no 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.480 no danger of getting the case, nobody in danger of 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:11.279 getting hurt or harmed or death threats, and none of 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.799 that ship, man, because it's not cool for views. Pair, 0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.800 That's all I was saying. And everybody went and some 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:20.280 of these ridiculous I saw one where is this female 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:24.720 YouTube creator? She put a map of big use office 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:27.759 and then when if she got shot, I'm telling and 0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.200 then she's saying, look how close his office is to 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:35.200 where he got shot? Nothing, And then you see the comments. Oh, 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.000 bab You're making a great point. Like even her, the 0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:42.400 listeners to these channels are Remember, these are little young kids, 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.440 a lot of these people and and and they like 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:47.279 to be talked down to. They like to be talked 0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:48.799 to like they in class because they just got all 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:51.920 of high school and so they used to be talking 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.960 elementary funk out of school. So at the end of 0:52:56.000 --> 0:53:00.239 the day, man Um, not only are they dumb, but 0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.880 when people put the ship out there, they believe in 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:09.840 the ship. And I was about to say something I forgot. 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.640 They're not only believing the ship, but too much weight 0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.880 was believing the ship. But they spreading it, you know 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.000 what I mean. They're spreading. It's going from line to 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.719 line the line. So it's becoming the norm. It's becoming real, 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.520 you know what I mean. So these motherfucker's are aheads. 0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:30.200 It's like this, man, let's be real. Let's put our 0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:34.319 thinking caps on. Magnum p I. Whoever the funk you are? 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:39.200 You super investigators? Who's giving you the secret information? Why 0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.839 are you sing for the police that the police don't 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.160 got the detectives don't got the ship you're talking about 0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.040 the drudge don't got it, But you got it something 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.640 out of town, some bit out of town. You got 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.800 all the secret information? Exactly what happened? Who told you? 0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.440 That's my question? How you get it? And the police 0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.000 and nobody else got it out here in now l 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.160 but you somewhere in the new work at Baltimore, whatever 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.640 the down south you're doing your blogs at. How you 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:05.680 get it? And what makes you so freaking important to 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:10.120 get to exclusive information? It's false. It's actually undermining the 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.680 police's investigations because if any of these people were guilty, 0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:17.239 the police would have already arrested the arrested. My more 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:19.279 the story, and we're gonna end this it on that 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:23.280 man Gates of Chronicles. Yeah, my shit about to start, 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:31.560 all right. Thanks for coming through you, Thank you. I 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:33.960 want to thank the listeners for listening to another episode 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.040 of the Gangs of Chronicles. 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