1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to save a productive of iHeartRadio. I'm 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Annie Rethel and I'm. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we have an episode for you 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: about stroop Waffles. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a fun one. It's a fun one. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: It is fun to say, fun all around. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: And there is a fun reason for why we are 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: talking about this. Yes. Uh, it was just life Day. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Happy Life Day, everyone, Happy Life Day. If you're unaware, 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: that's a Star Wars holiday for wookies. 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Yes, but now it's for all of us. 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: Oh, now, it's for all of us. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Okay, good. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: It takes place on November seventeenth, and it is based 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: on the Star Wars Holiday special, which I believe you still. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Haven't seen, Laura, I have not. I have seen b 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Arthur's number are now. 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: But oh good, that's one of the best parts. It 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: is difficult to explain and wild and in my personal opinion, 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: worth experiencing at least once. But if you hate me afterwards, 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you for it. It's notoriously bad. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. This was a mid seventies television holiday special. 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: That was It was a variety show. 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: It was interestingly put together. 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: I watched it for a life day as always, and 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: even so after all these years, I was struck by 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: how how bizarre and strange it really is. 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: That's great, yeah or something? 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I actually didn't watch it. I knew, I 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: knew about the reputation of it for a long time, 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't watch it until the pandemic, and I 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: have to say. 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: Exceeded exceeded expectations. 35 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yep, I knew it was going to be strange, 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: and it was even stranger than I could have imagined 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: could ever been to words. Also, this is kind of 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: where you get Boba fet. He appeared previously in a parade, 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: but this is where most found about Boba fet. And 40 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: the really funny thing is you can't get it anywhere. 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, this is not what Disney wants you 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: to be watching. 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: No, they've only released certain segments of it, but you 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: can still find it on YouTube. And trust me, I 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: saved a copy, so no one will be taking this 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: from me physical media forever. Yes, yes, And if you 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: want to go listen to over on stuff. When I 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: told you, we've done several episodes about what happened here. 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: But it was a really interesting time for Star Wars 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: because it was kind of the wild West. 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: They were like, let's try this. People like this the studio. 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: The studio's not giving us money, No one's giving us support. 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: What if we try all of these things. It's a 54 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: fascinating history of how it happened, and it's a fascinating 55 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: thing to watch. 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: Well, I look forward to doing that someday. 57 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: I You're welcome, and I'm sorry. I personally loved it. 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: But one of the reasons, one of the reasons we 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: chose our food topic for today. It's basically Star Wars Christmas, 60 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: and so there's a some cooking scenes in it, and 61 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: we were trying to pick a topic for Life Day 62 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: and I was thinking of a couple of things we 63 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: haven't covered yet, and there's there's wookie cookies or wookie 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: cookies as they kind of say, but so we were 65 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: looking for a cookie. 66 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a striop waffle has been on our list 67 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: for a while. I believe a few of you have 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: suggested it and I didn't right in the top here 69 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: who that was, So if it was you, thank you. Also, 70 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Oh heck, they're so delicious. I love a stroop waffle. Annie, 71 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: you dislike caramel? 72 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but. 73 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: How do you, how do you feel like? I like, 74 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: I think that you said that you have consumed at 75 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: least one like because you used to be really big 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: into running and like distance running. 77 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Yes, so I do. I have had the energy cookie 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: as they're often called, that you athletes consume for long 79 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: distance are hard workouts. To be honest, most of the 80 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: things I eat during that period, I just don't. 81 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: You're not thinking about them as food at all. You're 82 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: just like, this is literally a calorie to consume so 83 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: that I can continue doing this thing that I am doing. 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very it's been one hour. You need 85 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: this much energy and it doesn't taste like anything to me. 86 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: It's just can I swallow it? Not tope while I'm 87 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: still running. But I have had When I was in Belgium, 88 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: I had stoop waffle. I don't recall hating it. 89 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, I'm glad. 90 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I kind of didn't even know Kramel 91 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: was involved. Makes me wonder if I got some kind 92 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: of different variety. But it's quite possible I had it 93 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and it just was minimal or who knows. 94 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: I still think that your problem with caramel is like 95 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: the fake caramel flavor that Yeah, that like inexpensive candy 96 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: bars put into that kind of thing, but that that 97 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: that is that is just this is not backed by 98 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: any kind of scientific study. 99 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: More research is necessary. I believe that that is a 100 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: strong possibility. I don't remember strongly disliking it, but I 101 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: also didn't seek it out. I think I had it 102 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: like the one incident. Yeah, h well, maybe future research 103 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: is needed, but for now, you can see our past 104 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: cookie episodes, of which we do have many pizzelle I 105 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: would say specifically relates to this one. Absolutely waffles. 106 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we haven't done a full waffle episode, but 107 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: we did do one about Ego brand and it does 108 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: go into the history of waffles and waffle machines a 109 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: decent thing. 110 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was a headache inducing rabbit 111 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: hole for me. I have to say on this one. 112 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I guess that brings us to our 113 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: question absolutely stop waffles. What are they? 114 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: Well, strip waffles are a type of sandwich cookie made 115 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: from a thin, crispy waffle cut in half the long 116 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: way or to extra thin waffles, with a also thin feeling 117 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: of chewy, soft caramel in the middle. The waffle batter 118 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: and or the caramel. Are typically flavored with vanilla and 119 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of cinnamon, giving you this like simple 120 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: but really rich, buttery, toasty, warm flavor and in a 121 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: really craveable, like crisp, tender, chewy sort of texture. They're 122 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: typically round, super thin, like maybe maybe half a centimeter 123 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: like a quarter of an inch thick, and about the 124 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: diameter of the top of a coffee mug, maybe like 125 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: three inches across, that's about eight centimeters or so, though 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: they can come in jumbo or mini sizes. And I 127 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: used a coffee mug as a reference here because they 128 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: are often eaten as a snack alongside coffee or tea, 129 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: and a popular thing to do is to heat them 130 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: up a little bit by by balancing the cookie on 131 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: top of your cup for a minute or two and 132 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: thus letting the caramel soften before you eat it. And oh, 133 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: they're so they're so nice. They're so nice. They're just 134 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: this like crispy, chewy, melty with like a with like 135 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: a nice sweet, rich flavor, without feeling heavy, almost more 136 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: like a like a candy bar, like a delicate candy 137 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: bar than a cookie. They're like they're like putting on 138 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: a sweatshirt warm from the dryer. 139 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 4: Oh. 140 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Now, see, this is something that some companies who make 141 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: stup waffle have been very outspoken about, is this is 142 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: how you eat it. And I definitely know the streep 143 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: waffle I had. I didn't do this, I didn't put 144 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: it on the coffee mug or whatever. But it sounds 145 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: delightful like that kind of melty. 146 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah I haven't, I haven't even tried doing that, but 147 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: but still like, I don't know, but I also adore caramel. 148 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 5: So. 149 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of Tim Tims. You remember the 150 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: Tim Tims. Yeah, sure, having this alternate this is how 151 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: you eat it warmed up. People have really strong opinions 152 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: about that. 153 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Oh my goodness they do. Huh well, okay, 154 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: so so waffles, in case you weren't aware, are a 155 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: type of baked good made by cooking a batter super 156 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: briefly between two hot plates and strip waffle batter is 157 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: usually rich with eggs and butter and sugar. Usually includes 158 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: a yeast rising as well for airiness. It's a fairly 159 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: thick dough, more and more like a cookie dough. The 160 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: plates for stroop waffles typically have a three dimensional crosshatch pattern, 161 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: forming little sunken squares in the final waffle. The hot 162 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: plates give them a good golden brown on the outside, 163 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: and the brief cooking time lets the inside stay soft. 164 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: The waffles used for stroop waffles are on the thin side. 165 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: If you're using two for the sandwich, you are looking 166 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: at a waffle iron that produces the thickness of a pizzelle. 167 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: If you're splitting a single waffle to make the cookie, 168 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: you got to make that horizontal cut as soon as 169 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: it comes off the iron so that the waffle is 170 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: still soft and pliable. And it does help, I understand 171 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: to use a round cookie cutter to punch out and 172 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: even circle even if you already have a circular waffle, 173 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: just to give you like an edge to work with 174 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: as you cut. Yeah anyway, Soft caramel on the same hand, 175 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: it's on the same cookie. 176 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 177 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: Sure is a candy that's made by cooking sugar and 178 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: some kind of fatty dairy or dairy substitute together until 179 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: the mixture reaches the soft ball stage, meaning that it'll 180 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: have thickened up and developed like lovely toasty flavors, but 181 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: will still be chewy, not not hard. When it cools 182 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: to room temperature. The dairy in question can be cream, milk, butter, 183 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: or a combination of the three. The heat will also 184 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: develop some toasty flavors in the dairy. Sugars too. Substitutes 185 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: like coconut products will lend a bit of a different flavor, 186 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: which might be what you're going for. I don't know. 187 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: The striup waffle literally means syrup waffle in Dutch and 188 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: syrup because the carnal will be a syrupy liquid when 189 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: it's hot, which is the state that you want it 190 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: in when you pour it over your waffles to make 191 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: sandwich cookie. 192 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 193 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: Some classic recipes for this do call for things like 194 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: honey or molasses in the caramel, which add a bit 195 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 2: of flavoring but also help the caramel syrup stay stable. 196 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Like sugar kind of wants to be a crystal and 197 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: you have to be real careful when you're cooking it 198 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: or it will recrystallize in the pan. These days, corn 199 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: syrup is a cheaper and more neutrally flavored substitute for 200 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: those things. In the Netherlands, which is where striop waffles 201 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: are from, I think that that original vanilla cinnamon flavor 202 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: is the go to option, but these days and definitely 203 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: around the US, there are all kinds of flavors made 204 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: by adding ingredients to often the waffle, sometimes the filling, 205 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: sometimes both. I've seen yes, honey coffee or espresso, fig maple, chocolate, peanut, butter, 206 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: strawberry cookies, and cream snickerdoodle birthday cake. You can also 207 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: dip or half dip a stop waffle in chocolate and 208 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: add crumbles of candy or other cookies, cookies on cookies, 209 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: I love it, and yeah. A stoop waffle can be 210 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: purchased from bakeries and street vendors in specifically in the Netherlands, 211 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: served up in just like a paper napkin, but are 212 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: also manufactured and packaged both singly and in like stacks. 213 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: Manufacturers also make mini sizes that come in bags and 214 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: yeah yeah. They are often served as a cafe snack 215 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 2: around the Netherlands, but can be eaten anytime or incorporated 216 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: into other desserts, like as a topping for ice cream, 217 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: or chopped up as an ingredient in cakes or like 218 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: layered puddings or what have you. And as we alluded 219 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: to earlier, they have also been picked up endurance workout 220 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: communities in the US and maybe elsewhere y'all write in 221 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: as like a mid exercise snack. Some companies do specifically 222 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: produce like lower sugar or higher fiber or whatever, stoop 223 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: waffles for that purpose. 224 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, future episode, not for today. But what 225 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: about the nutrition. 226 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Ah that depends can be pretty sugary, you can be 227 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: pretty fatty. Cookies, generally speaking, are treats, and treats are nice. 228 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Treats are nice, and we all deserve a treat sometimes. 229 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Oh we do, yes, well, we do have some numbers 230 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: for you. 231 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: We do so. In the Netherlands, twenty two million packets 232 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: of stroop waffles are sold every year, which works out 233 00:14:54,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: to about twenty stroop waffles per capita. Companies that make 234 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: stroop waffle manufacturing equipment, which is a thing, say that 235 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: this equipment is capable of producing up to twenty five 236 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: thousand stroop waffles per hour. September thirtieth is World stroop 237 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: Waffle Day, which is a thing that I think was 238 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: started by the famous Dutch producer Dolmonds and the Guinness 239 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: record for the largest stroop waffle was achieved in Guda 240 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: in the Netherlands in twenty thirteen. It measured two point 241 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: four to seven meters across, which is eight point one feet, 242 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: and involved sixty kilos of dough, fifteen kilos of caramel, 243 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: and a baking iron that weighed three thousand kilos and 244 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: had to be hoisted by a crane. I didn't I 245 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: didn't translate that into pounds. You can imagine it's heavy. 246 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: The team planned for a year and a half to 247 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: pull this off. 248 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: That is both impressive and, as I've said before, a 249 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: lot of these records make me nervous. Actually, I don't 250 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: know why specifically. 251 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: I think I think both of us are like like 252 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: run towards nervousness and chet. Yeah, and there's like a 253 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: lot of safety concerns that I have. And I'm just 254 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: like Adgie's Adgie's watch out guys, Like there's like my 255 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: little that's very nice. 256 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm more like the what if the cookie came to 257 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: life and now I've got to deal with an eight 258 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: foot whatever cookie. 259 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: I mean, both both of these are you know, we're 260 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: just we're just looking out. We're we're just looking out 261 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: for everyone. 262 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: More research is needed. 263 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, well, okay, we don't spoiler alert. We don't 264 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: have any cookies coming to life here in the history section. 265 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: But we do have quite a history for you, and 266 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: we are going to get into that as soon as 267 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: we get back from a quick break for a word 268 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: from our sponsors, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 269 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: thank you. Okay, So you can see our ego episode 270 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: for more about this. But briefly, waffles in general, meaning 271 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: thin cakes formed and cooked between metal plates, go back 272 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: to ancient Greece at least they developed during medieval times 273 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: into wafers with religious iconography produced by the Catholic Church, 274 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: then in the thirteen hundreds or so, into recipes that 275 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: we would like more or less recognize today. In the Netherlands. 276 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: Around that time, bakers started using rectangular plates forged with 277 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: a grid pattern, although historians aren't sure whether this was 278 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: like a decorative choice or a practical matter for the blacksmiths, 279 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: or like a practical request from the baker's for a 280 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: design with a greater surface area, like letting the waffles 281 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: get more crisper faster. But at any rate, yet they 282 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: had like a waffle baker's guild and everything by around 283 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: the thirteen hundreds. 284 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and according to sources, stoop waffle were a Dutch 285 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: creation cir the late seventeen hundreds or early eighteen hundreds. 286 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: They were created in the Dutch town of Howda or 287 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: an American Guda and yes, the namesake of the cheese Guda, 288 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: and were originally called Gudha's waffle. They were fairly cheap 289 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: and popular at events like festivals, and Dutch Waffle Company 290 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: reports that one hundred bakers in Gouda were making them 291 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: by the end of the eighteen hundreds, and they soon 292 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: spread to neighboring cities, in part because of these festivals, 293 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: where people would visit have one. 294 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: And they'd be like, oh, yeah, that thing. 295 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: There is of course a popular story that stroop waffle 296 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: were created thanks to bakers not wanting to waste leftover 297 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: crumbs from their baking. So these crumbs were really dry. 298 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: How did the bakers get them to stick together? Syrup 299 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: and so the resulting cookies were pretty cheap and easy 300 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: to make it first, but over time bakers added in flour, sugar, 301 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: and butter. Some sources specifically credit baker Girard Campuisen and 302 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: say that he originally sold these very cheaply. His original 303 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: attempts of coalescing these leftover bakery bits didn't work out, 304 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: he added syrup and molasses. His bakery first opened in 305 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: eighteen ten. In The first known written recipe for stoup 306 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: roffel dates back to eighteen forty, so it is possible, 307 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: depending on which version of the story you read, this 308 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: might have been the result of an accident or failed 309 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: attempt to make a wafer with a waffle iron. The 310 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: wafer crumbled into pieces, so he got the idea to 311 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: use a thick sweetener like sugar beet molasses to keep 312 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: the crumbs together. Mystery's history. Modern waffle and pizzelle irons 313 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: were invented in the eighteen hundreds. 314 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: Yes and yeah, right, mystery's history. But certainly once stoup 315 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: waffles started catching on, they were helped out by this 316 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: particular type of flour. This Dutch cake flour made from 317 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: a soft wheat grown in regions along the North Sea 318 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: called zeus bloom. Apologies from my Dutch throughout this episode, 319 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: but yes, it's a little lower in proteins including gluten 320 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: than many other flowers, which means that it bakes up 321 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: more crispy than chewy, which helps give you that final 322 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: texture in a strip waffle. 323 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: Yes, and that brings us to another big name in 324 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the stroop waffle story. Hermanus Dolmonds opened a small family 325 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: bakery selling stroopwaffle in nineteen oh four, and nowadays Damons 326 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest names of stroop waffle, perhaps 327 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: particularly abroad because they were one of the first to 328 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: start exporting their products. According to the company website, Dowmond's 329 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: motto the person was when you indulge. 330 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: Do it right, ooh, all right, yeah. 331 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: Stroopwaffle commercial prediction really got underway in the twentieth century. 332 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: There were multiple factories churning them out of how To 333 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: or Guda by nineteen sixty. 334 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I read as many as seventeen around that time, 335 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: though those have since consolidated to around four I think. 336 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: And speaking of more recent times, a Dutch astronaut and 337 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: physician by the name of Andre Kuiper's took stroop waffles 338 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: with him on at least one of his two missions 339 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: to the International Space Station in the early two thousands. 340 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: His first mission was eleven days in two thousand and four, 341 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: his second was five months, launching in December of twenty eleven, 342 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: and during that second one he definitely brought stroop waffles, 343 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: and also negotiated to bring ten kilos of Guda, specifically 344 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: Old Amsterdam brand to share with his colleagues there. He 345 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: wrote in an ESA blog, a European Space agency blog, 346 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: that they were so well fed with like snacks and 347 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: desserts and hot meals every day that everyone had to 348 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: watch their weight to avoid like throwing off station movement 349 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: calculations while they were up there. And I am not 350 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: sure exactly how much of this was a joke, but 351 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: I love it. That's fantastic. We got a space fact 352 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: in the Stroop Boffle episode. You know we love space 353 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: bag oh every time, every time. 354 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh my, I would love to hear from an astronaut 355 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: that would oh wow, remarkable. 356 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: That would make my entire life. 357 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: I think. 358 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: So. 359 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: In the early twenty tens, a handful of American based 360 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: companies selling stroop Waffle launched. Some of them A lot 361 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: of them were people from like Belgium or the Netherlands 362 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: who had moved to America, but they were American based. 363 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: This is also when these cookies started appearing on more 364 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: and more American grocery shelves, and sometime around here is 365 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: when the stroop waffle was adopted by the cycling community 366 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: as an energy booster at large, because Dutch athletes had 367 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: been snacking out stroopwaffle for a while and they're a 368 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: big cycling country. From what I can understand, various companies 369 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: like Honey Singer now offer energy waffles, and yeah, I 370 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: did used to use them on long runs, mostly because 371 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: my mom gave them to me. Okay, I've got no 372 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: preference for or against. I was much more of a 373 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: gummy person, but I do still have some things. So 374 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: it was a big thing. Yeah. Oh, speaking of a 375 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: big thing, I love this. Okay. So streop waffle was 376 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: a technical challenge on The Great British Bakeoff in twenty seventeen, 377 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: and apparently it was a bit of a disaster. One 378 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: of the hosts said, did none of you get the carmel? Right? 379 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: And you can read other quotes from that episode. Honestly, 380 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: this whole thing, I've just been me quoting what I 381 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: read about it. But it wasn't good. They essentially the 382 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: hosts at the end were like, I don't even know 383 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: how we're going to judge this. It was also bad. 384 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: Wow, oh no, oh no. And they're the polite they're 385 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 2: the flight making competition. 386 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I know, Oh, I have some friends who really love 387 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: this show, and I'll just hear about these disasters. 388 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and. 389 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm always so curious. I couldn't do it. 390 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: I could absolutely not do it. That I would be 391 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: physically incapable, even after having read about this for a 392 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: couple of days. 393 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: I know, tried to make ring several times and I 394 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: knew how it should work, and it didn't really work 395 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: out for me. So yeah, sometimes especially without a recipe, man, 396 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: yeah mm hmm. And then in twenty eighteen, United Airlines 397 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: caused some anger online when they temporarily stopped offering stoopwoffle 398 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: after nine thirty to nine forty five AM for US 399 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: domestic flights. There press rely said it was in part 400 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: to quote appeal to a broad palate. Oh well. They 401 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: first started serving stoop waffle in partnership with Dolmans as 402 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: a free breakfast snack on domestic and Latin American flights. 403 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, they resumed offering them and twenty nineteen 404 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: with all day availability. But when I tell you this 405 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: was a it was they had opinions. They were so. 406 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 2: Angry, They're like, how dare you take away our stop waffle. Yeah. 407 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all this research kind of went into it. 408 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of it's fascinating to me, honestly about how 409 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: to get Americans into it, and then they got into 410 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: it and were really mad I took it away. 411 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think that since then, stroop 412 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: waffles and pretzels have been the two like free snack 413 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: options on United flights. 414 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: The free part was key. Yeah, the free part was key. 415 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: They also, as a way to drum up excitement about 416 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: the stroop waffle, United shared a video about how to 417 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: eat it and it was with hot coffee or tea. 418 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, social media because I think somebody who worked with 419 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: Dolmonds was trying to get it into the US and 420 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 4: they said, you're not even eating it correctly, tell them 421 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 4: how to eat it. 422 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: I love this. That's great, that's great. Yes. And then 423 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: American McDonald's offered a Dowmond's strip waffle mcflurry in twenty nineteen. 424 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: It was first market tested in Florida and was popular 425 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: enough that it soon was offered across the US. And 426 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: though it was pretty popular, it was only available for 427 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: a limited time. 428 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this was a vanilla soft serve with strip 429 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: waffle pieces and caramel sauce, and it was part of 430 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: like a larger marketing push at the time where McDonald's 431 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: was offering international menu items at US locations. The strip 432 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: waffle mcfluury was perhaps obviously originally from the Netherlands. And 433 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: speaking of Netherlands, McDonald's in twenty twenty four they offered 434 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: this limited time chicken and waffle sandwich made with a 435 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: crispy chicken filet, bacon stroop, waffle pieces, and caramel sauce 436 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: on on a bun. 437 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: My brain just had them. I was just trying to 438 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: figure out Okay, yeah, sure, that sounds good. 439 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it was like a lot. 440 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like a lot. It sounds like a breakfast 441 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: sandwich to me. 442 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 443 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: And I feel like I wouldn't eat for a solid 444 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: ten hours after I'd be like, well, I'm done here. 445 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: I have to lay down after a couple of bites 446 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: of that. 447 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: It's kind of breakfast where you're like, okay, and now 448 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: nap exactly. 449 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Don't eat that on a day where you have to 450 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: get stuff done. 451 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, And then I have another science note 452 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: for y'all. And I had to I had to include 453 00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: this so also so in twenty nine, a group of 454 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: astrophysics researchers led by a team out of Amsterdam presented 455 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: this new computational algorithm that they named stroopwaffle, which stands 456 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: for simulating the rare outcomes of populations with AIS for 457 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: efficient learning. Let me break that down for you, because 458 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: and like, okay, like I am not an astrophysicist, but 459 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: from what I understand, this algorithm helps select simulations that 460 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: researchers run to try to better understand big interactions among 461 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: objects in space, Like like, you know, you only have 462 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: so much time on the computer, right, so you want 463 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: to run the simulations that are going to be most 464 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: useful to you. And they were specifically trying to hone 465 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: in on simulations of binary star systems that die, you know, 466 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the star's life and develop into 467 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: more compact objects and then merge, giving off gravitational waves 468 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: and visible light. And so yeah, they developed this algorithm. 469 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: They described it as working essentially like battleship, Like the 470 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: algorithm makes random guesses but then hones in on surrounding 471 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: data once it gets a hit. 472 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: Stroop waffle. I love how many times we've run into 473 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: this that they named. Scientists have named something after a food, Yeah, 474 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: just this beloved food. 475 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: They were like, well, it's a little bit of a reach, 476 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: but isn't it funny if we don't make it work? 477 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: Isn't it dear and funny if we make it work? 478 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: And it is, and indeed was. I learned more about 479 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: astrophysics in order to tell you all about it, which 480 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: is no, no skin off my nose. That's a great 481 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: day for me. Also, yes, the Oxford English Dictionary added 482 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: stroop waffle in its December twenty twenty four update. It 483 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: says that the first attestation of streep waffle and English 484 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: happened in nineteen seventy four in an advertisement for streep 485 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: waffles in an Ohio newspaper. Yeah, officially part of the 486 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: English Dictionary as of now, oh or an English Dictionary 487 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: kind of a big one. 488 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, they're choosing all their end of 489 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: the year words and I'm just baffled by Oh. 490 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: I love it. 491 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: It makes me so happy. Dictionary shenanigans are like, are 492 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: really exciting to me. 493 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about who we are. Yeah, yes, 494 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: but we would love I think that's what we have 495 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: to save now, but we would love to hear from 496 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: listeners about streep waffle. 497 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, I can't even remember exactly when I 498 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: first encountered them. It was some time since I have 499 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: been in Atlanta, but that has been for like twenty 500 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: years now, so it's a bit of a span. Yeah. 501 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Oh, they're so good. 502 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: Cravings, the cravings, mm hmm. But yes, we would love 503 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: to hear from all of you. Uh, and we do 504 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: already have some listener mail for you, which we are 505 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: going to get into as soon as we get back 506 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: from one more quick break for a word from our sponsors. 507 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, And 508 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: we are back with a listener. 509 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 5: May oh I hope, I hope you listeners write in 510 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 5: about street flufful. 511 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah he Do you have a recipe for 512 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: the oh heck, go ahead a favorite? Yes? 513 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Oh. In the meantime, though, we have several 514 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: more messages from Halloween to get through. I get through 515 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: is wrong, because I oh, yeah, this is fantastic. Yes, 516 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: but here is one Jane wrote, I just had to 517 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: write in and tell you about the weirdest thing that 518 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: one of my kids got in their trick or treat bag. 519 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: This was in Canada between twenty five and thirty years ago. 520 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: It was weirder than the tiny New Testaments and the 521 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: tracks explaining the satanic evil of Halloween, and less welcome 522 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: than a toothbrush. Two veggie burger patties storebaught still and 523 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: vacuum sealed package. That kid did eventually become vegetarian. Perhaps 524 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: the treat giver had a premonition. However, at the time, 525 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: neither he nor his brother would eat the patties, so 526 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: eventually I did. They were fine if you like veggie burgers. 527 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: In honor of the season, I include pumpkin tas Pumpkin 528 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: carving is my absolute favorite thing about Halloween artistic expression, 529 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: followed by pumpkin pie. What's not to like? Hope you 530 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: have or had by the time you read this a 531 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: great Halloween. Okay, So these pumpkins are amazing. 532 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: They're glorious. 533 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh they're so good. 534 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: They're really cool. There's one with a portrait on it, 535 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: and then two face pumpkins, and one of the faces 536 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: is kind of made of bubbles in a weird, creepy 537 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: way that I've never seen on a pumpkin before. 538 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: Yes, and then the other one has creepy long tea. 539 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that we're in some way constructed and attached separately, 540 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: I believe. And also a little nose, Yeah, I intruding nose. 541 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pumpkin carving is great. I do think it's a 542 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: really fun, fantastic artistic expression. Yes. Oh, man, I usually 543 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: do the same too, So I'm I like looking at 544 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: other people. 545 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never planned mine out, and then mine are 546 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: really structurally on sound, but this is yeah, I just 547 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 2: like get anxious and then just kind of do something 548 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, it's a pumpkin. Don't look at me. 549 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, these are beautiful. And also yeah, the veggie 550 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: burger thing absolutely sounds like someone who is like I 551 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: didn't I've run out of I don't have any treats. 552 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: What do you want here? Literally have something? 553 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes. The only other thing I can think of 554 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: is that it's somebody who is a big crusader for oh, 555 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: you should be a vegetarian here or some maybe, but 556 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard of it. That is the first I 557 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: have heard of receiving a veggie broker on Halloween. 558 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: Same same, Yeah, no, I can't say that I've and 559 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: especially yeah, like like that was a minute ago too, 560 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: like that was a relatively rare item for someone to 561 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: have in their pantry refrigerator. 562 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. You're lying less welcome than a toothbrush. 563 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 564 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's something you got to figure out what 565 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: to do with, for sure. But but hey, one of 566 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: one of the kids speaking vegetarians. 567 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they didn't need it. 568 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're influenced, but I don't know, someone aw something yes, 569 00:37:51,560 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: h uh unrelated. Christie wrote, once again, your dunge of 570 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 2: this crab episode was serendipitous timing. Earlier that day, I 571 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: had been watching video of the annual Christmas Island red 572 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 2: Crab migration, and that got me wondering about the Christmas 573 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: Island red crabs. That got me wondering about crab recipes 574 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: in general, and I was reading about Uncle Robbie's crab 575 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: curry when the episode popped up on my feed. I 576 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: don't have much experience with crab. My mother is allergic 577 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 2: to shellfish, and my father wasn't interested in shellfish beyond 578 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: prawns shrimp, so they just didn't come up on my radar. 579 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: I've decided I need to rectify this. As for the 580 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: Christmas Island red crabs. They are large red land crabs 581 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: found only on Christmas Island, which is off the northwest 582 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 2: coast of Australia. Because of its isolation, there are several 583 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: animals found only there, but of course Europeans had to 584 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: bring in feral animals. The crabs live primarily on land, 585 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: but they still spawn their eggs in the sea, so 586 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: every year, after the first monsoon rains, literally millions of 587 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: crabs leave the rainforest and hills where they live, march 588 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: across the island to the sea and spawn. While some 589 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: crabs are lost each year to vehicles, rangers on the 590 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 2: island work to manage the migrations, so crabs only crossroads 591 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: in designated zones and close roads when the number of 592 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: crabs becomes too many. In any case, running over a 593 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: crab is not recommended. Their carapaces are tough and sharp, 594 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: so they will puncture tires and sometimes even damage the undercarriage. 595 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: And while they technically won't kill you, the crabs aren't edible. 596 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 2: There's very little meat for the size, and what meat 597 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 2: there is is very mushy and tastes like swamp water, 598 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: so they get to continue their annual migrations untroubled. By 599 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: the thought of being eaten. I doubt even Uncle Robbie 600 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: could make them taste good. He is a man of 601 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: the Uaija nation who was a very popular contestant on 602 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: Master Chef. You can follow him on Uncle Robbie cooks 603 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: on Instagram for spectacular scenery, hunting and fishing, and of 604 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: course recipes. 605 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: I love this. 606 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 2: I had never thought to look into whether you could 607 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: eat the migrating crabs. Thank you, thank you for looking 608 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: into this. 609 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: Fort yes, because I have seen this. 610 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 2: Oh it's horrifying as a human who's a little bit 611 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: horrified by crabs. There's so many, and they're creepy krawley, 612 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: and there's boo boo booping, and they're just so many 613 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: of them and they're all boot booping, and it's a lot. 614 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: It's just a lot, it is. I do kind of 615 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: love though, that there are like here are there designated walkways. 616 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, and the amazing work of the rangers to 617 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: get a bunch of crabs to use the designated crab ways. 618 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, sure, that's great. I think it's fantastic. 619 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: But there's just so many interesting ways that we interact 620 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: with nature that. 621 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, yeah, please use this grabble. Yeah, we 622 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: need to let you do your thing. We have built 623 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: a human civilization here, but please continue. Yeah yeah, yeah, 624 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 2: and I do hope to hear from you more now 625 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 2: because Australia does have a lot of good seafood. 626 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: So if you haven't had a lot. 627 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: Of experience, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you can find some, yeah, 628 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: let us know, let us know what you wind up thinking. 629 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 1: Yes, oh please. 630 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: Oh and thanks for a recommendation for a schef to follow. 631 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, always always, Well. Thank you to these two listeners 632 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: for writing in. 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