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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three

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Speaker 1: Now podcast, How Are We Doing? I did a little

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Speaker 1: reaction to Ohio State, who beats Texas and is going

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Speaker 1: to the Natty playing their former player, actually Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 1: in the Notre Dame fighting Irish. What an excellent just

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Speaker 1: in terms of the brands on TV, I thought tonight

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Speaker 1: was just it looks sweet Texan Ohio State. But so

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Speaker 1: we get Ohio State against Notre Dame Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: think I saw it was gonna be like eight and

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Speaker 1: a half point favorite, so big, big favorite, even bigger

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Speaker 1: than they were against Texas.

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Speaker 2: So we'll dive in a little to the game.

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Speaker 1: We just saw Sarkeisi and Chip Kelly, Jack Sawyer, Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: It's fun game.

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Speaker 1: Actually really second half was was riveting, really was really good.

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Speaker 1: Both games. Great Final four, fantastic final four, year one

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Speaker 1: of the college football playoffs. Also did a little mailbag.

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Speaker 1: We just had so many questions, so I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bang out a mail bag. That will be in there

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Speaker 1: as well. And yeah, other than that, make sure you

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast. Also, everything's on YouTube, go check

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Speaker 1: that out. And let's just dive into the game. I

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Speaker 1: got to start with, Listen, you lose that Michigan game,

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Speaker 1: the vitriol, the anger from Ohio State fans in Herb Street,

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Speaker 1: and you know, all the guys taking shots at the

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Speaker 1: fan base. It's kind of laughable given how bad that

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Speaker 1: loss was, like in a vacuum, that loss separate, no

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Speaker 1: one knew what was gonna happen. Was really really bad,

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Speaker 1: like there's no way around it. But they have really responded,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't get to go to the conference championship games.

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Speaker 1: They got an extra week. They kicked the crap out

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee, they kicked the crap out of Oregon, and tonight,

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Speaker 1: even that first drive, you're like, they kind of looked

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Speaker 1: that first drive of the game. I almost put money

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Speaker 1: on Texas. I was like, I'm not gonna Chase. I

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Speaker 1: just felt like ninety percent or something I saw of

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Speaker 1: the money was on Ohio State. Money line, the spread

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Usually when that happens, and then the first drive of

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Speaker 1: the game happens, I'm like, I'm glad I didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State just looked excellent. You're like, this is the

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Speaker 1: best team in the country. They're gonna roll and then

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Speaker 1: for the majority of the first half at seven.

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Speaker 2: To nothing and you're just like, Okay, game's gonna be weird.

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Speaker 1: Texas is really good on defense, and Texas has one of,

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Speaker 1: if not the best defensive.

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Speaker 2: Coordinators in all of the country.

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Speaker 1: And clearly whatever he did tonight, bracketing, double coveraging, throwing

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Speaker 1: different looks at Jeremiah Smith neutralized that player and that

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Speaker 1: part of their passing game. Now Ohio State, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Henderson is such an explosive running back. Their third wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Tait was dominated tonight. Abuka is obviously a really

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Speaker 1: good player and Will Howard as listen, he's a solid player.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his future looks like at the

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Speaker 1: next level. Has some beautiful passes, obviously he's an excellent

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Speaker 1: runner and just made some plays. But to me, this game,

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Speaker 1: like this specific game, came down to play calling. It

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Speaker 1: came down to Chip Kelly and Steve Sarkisian. And in

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Speaker 1: the second half, when it's fourteen to fourteen and Texas

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Speaker 1: but it felt a little wider than that. Then they

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Speaker 1: score toward the end of the half where Sark makes

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Speaker 1: a great play call on fourth down, bringing in Arch

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go to halftime, seven to seven, and then boom,

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly calls the screen. Henderson looks like he's going

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Speaker 1: just like, that's kind of a gut punch from Texas.

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Speaker 1: But they came out in the second half. They kept

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Speaker 1: playing unreal defense. They tied the game. It's fourteen to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: You're going, you know, middle of the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 2: Drive to go up twenty one to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, like, I'm not a huge quinn

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Speaker 1: There was another play where he just schemes these wide

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Speaker 1: so fourth and two, Chip Kelly calls the play and

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Speaker 1: then listen Sark and they drive right down the field

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Speaker 1: I got no problem on a first in goal trying

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Speaker 1: no problem doing it again. The problem is Sark through

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Speaker 1: a pitch play that got lateral that ended up losing

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Speaker 1: that situation where you have been a tough, physical team,

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Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, one thing Ohio

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Speaker 1: Like Michigan's tougher than you. You just have to acknowledge it.

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Speaker 1: You could be a great boxer. If you get in

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Speaker 1: the ring with Mike Tyson, you're probably gonna lose, right,

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Speaker 1: So when you're Ohio State, your greatest advantage is passing

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Speaker 1: to stop Jeremiah Smith. They treated him like Jerry Rice

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Speaker 1: him every look, and Chip Kelly's like, Okay, what else

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Speaker 1: do we have to do? We gotta throw two other guys.

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Speaker 1: We got to run the football, we gotta throw screen passes,

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Speaker 1: we gotta run our quarterback. And you look at Sark

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Speaker 1: it's like, listen, you've kind of bullied them, like you've

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Speaker 1: Especially with a team with that much team speed on defense,

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Speaker 1: like the likelihood that he's gonna be out in space

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Speaker 1: And then third down, obviously Viewers gets the ball tipped,

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Speaker 1: He gets sacked by his former college roommate, who sometimes

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Speaker 1: in football, you have no clue how the ball's gonna bounce.

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Speaker 1: For Jack Sawyer bounced literally right back into his lap

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Speaker 1: and he took into the house.

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Speaker 2: And that was the game.

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Speaker 1: But the game didn't happen on fourth down. The game

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Speaker 1: happened on second down when he ran a lateral toss

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Speaker 1: I have pretty good confidence that if they ran three

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Speaker 1: definitely not gonna lose seven yards, and your quarterback definitely

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Speaker 1: won't get sacked fumbled, and they'll score. So Sark, who

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Speaker 1: someone texts me tonight In the NFL, they're like Texas

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Speaker 1: has one of the best coaching staffs in the league

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Speaker 1: and Sark is an excellent play caller.

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Speaker 1: Incredibly well coached. And listen tonight, while they were a

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Speaker 1: six point underdog, and we've talked and most people have

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Speaker 1: the twenty million dollar roster, I don't know if Texas

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Speaker 1: their roster is pretty unreal. It is very very highly paid.

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Speaker 1: They have some big time guys, so you were going

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Speaker 2: So what happened to Night.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens in the NFL playoffs comes down

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Speaker 1: to coaching, comes down to play calling, and Chip made

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Speaker 1: some huge play calls to night. Even that play at

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Speaker 1: you could argue the second biggest play of the night

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Speaker 1: had such a good season he's had. He's done such

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Speaker 1: a good job of building this team like they were.

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Speaker 1: You just watch from a talent perspective, there isn't any difference.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some games in the playoffs where we're all like,

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Speaker 1: how is Arizona State going toe to toe with Texas.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't have. They don't have the talent. We saw

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame play Indiana. It wasn't a fair fight. Tonight

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Speaker 1: this field. I think I heard someone say or someone

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Speaker 1: forward me a tweet of the forty four starters tonight,

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Speaker 1: I think it's twenty six or twenty seven of them

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Speaker 1: are NFL prospects, and obviously a ton of them are

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Speaker 1: these freshmen and sophomores that probably don't play that much.

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Speaker 1: The amount of NFL players on this field tonight was outrageous,

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Speaker 1: I mean simply outrageous. And you felt that the team

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Speaker 1: speed the tackling, so which is cool about.

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Speaker 2: Moments like this?

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Speaker 1: This is why Ryan Day and Steve Sarkis and they

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Speaker 1: make a combine over twenty million dollars. Chip Kelly's making

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Speaker 1: two and a half. I don't want to screw up

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Speaker 1: his name. Boise State Sarks defensive coordinator Kawai Kowski might

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Speaker 1: have mispronounced that Bowler awesome defensive coordinator. These guys are

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Speaker 1: all making huge money and like they have highly paid rosters,

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Speaker 1: and it came down to two or three plays. Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly got it done, Stark did not. And I think

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Speaker 1: or baseball or basketball where you I don't know, had

436
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Speaker 1: to win in the playoffs. She's like, oh, yeah, they're

437
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: the best team, and they go and sometimes it worked

438
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it did not. So Marcus Freeman just beat

439
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Speaker 1: Georgia as a dog and then beat Penn State and

440
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: the final line ended up he was a dog as

441
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: well with a bunch of injuries. That is more impressive

442
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: to the route to getting there than Brian Kelly just

443
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: getting put there when they can just fudge their own schedule.

444
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not some Brian Kelly hater, but it's more

445
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Speaker 1: impressive winning playoff games, three of them, even if one's

446
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Speaker 1: a home game, especially against Georgia and Penn State. Then

447
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly just playing a regular season, no championship game

448
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: and be like, oh yeah, go play Alabama. Hope you're

449
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: doing well. If you were the Raiders, would you hire

450
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll at seventy three? He would be the oldest

451
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Speaker 1: coach in NFL history? How many years would he realistically

452
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Speaker 1: be able to coach five? So you know you're gonna

453
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: need another guy soon. You bring him in, You get

454
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Speaker 1: a sure thing and a winner to change the culture,

455
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Speaker 1: and then maybe let him pick the guy who's next

456
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Speaker 1: as he moves into a front office role. I was

457
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: actually thinking about this the other day. One I don't

458
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Speaker 1: think Pete Carroll aspires to be a front office guy.

459
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Speaker 1: He wants to coach, He wants to be on the field.

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Speaker 1: He for a seventy three year old, has more of

461
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Speaker 1: like a fifty five year old.

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Speaker 4: Five.

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Speaker 1: You see some of these guys we all know them

464
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Speaker 1: that you know we're in their sixties that feel like

465
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Speaker 1: they're eighty or vice versa. You're like, how old are you?

466
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Speaker 1: We met a l walking the dogs the other day

467
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: who's kind of lived in our neighborhood for decades and

468
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: turns out like her and her husband owned very successful businesses,

469
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Speaker 1: and Murray really liked her that they were talking while

470
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: the dogs were kind of playing. I was kind of

471
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: off to the side, but then Maria briefed me on it.

472
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Speaker 1: She's like, do you know how old that lady was?

473
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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, sixty six. She's like,

474
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Speaker 1: she was eighty two years old. I mean, she looks fantastic,

475
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: and there's something about and this lady still works to

476
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Speaker 1: this day. Now, businesses she had are pumping out cash,

477
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Speaker 1: but they like to work. And Pete Carroll started making big,

478
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Speaker 1: big money early on at USC. And obviously he had

479
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: coached in the NFL in the nineties, but I mean

480
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: he started to becoming like a true true millionaire. When

481
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: USC was humming, he was print in cash. Then he

482
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: got a ton of money to go to Seattle and

483
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: got countless contract extensions there. Pete Carroll is filthy rich.

484
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Speaker 1: And I try to say this to any human being

485
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Speaker 1: that ever asked for an advice, because you go, Pee

486
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Carroll's seventy three years old, He's worth millions upon millions.

487
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: He's actually already accomplished everything literally humanly possible in his profession.

488
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: He coached in college one to Natty, won multiple he

489
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Speaker 1: coached in the NFL, won a Super Bowl, and went

490
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Speaker 1: to another one. It's like he literally has checked all

491
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Speaker 1: the boxes. He's coached Hall of famers, He's helped guys

492
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Speaker 1: make a ton of money. He's helped coaches go on

493
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: to make a lot of money. It's like he's literally

494
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: checked every box professionally. He could given his what he

495
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: does for a living, Yet he still wants to coach really,

496
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: really bad. If he gets offered any of these jobs,

497
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: he is one hundred percent going to take it. You

498
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: know why. He loves coaching football. He loves football, and

499
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: he got into it back in the day when you

500
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Speaker 1: made no money. He didn't get into this profession for

501
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: the money. Now he you know, rode the wave of

502
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: being a part of it when it took off. But

503
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: when you find what you like to do, retirement sounds

504
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: like death. It really does. And I got no issue

505
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: with anyone that wants to retire or is retired. But

506
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that you couldn't pay

507
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: them to go into retirement. And it's not because you know,

508
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with money. They just they

509
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: like to work because they really really like what they do.

510
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll is clearly addicted to football. Addicted to football.

511
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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. There hasn't been a guy older

512
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Speaker 1: in seventy three being a head coach. I thought there

513
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: was no chance him becoming a head coach because I

514
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: just thought people would discriminate against his age. I do

515
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: think he's got a pretty young vibe. Now. His downfall

516
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: is like, who's his offensive coordinator. He's run through a

517
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: lot of coordinators in the past. Part of that's Russell,

518
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's a pretty unique old guy.

519
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: I would say the same for Belichick. When you're around

520
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: old coaches, they don't feel that old. And part of

521
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: it is when you coach, you're mainly coaching guys in

522
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: their twenties, and if you're a college coach, you're coaching

523
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Speaker 1: guys in their teens. Kind of keeps you young. I'm

524
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: a miserable Raider fan. I expect them to make poor

525
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: decisions every single year. I was curious what you think

526
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: about the Raiders going after Joe Milton with the Patriots.

527
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: He played well when he's on the field, He's big

528
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: and physical. I think his upside is huge and this

529
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: draft doesn't look promising when it comes to quarterbacks. Just

530
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: get another weapon in the first round. You know what's

531
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: funny is I read an article the other day after

532
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: Telesco got fired, and it's just talking about all the dynamics,

533
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, Tom didn't have a

534
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: great plane at quarterback. What were his options? Like, seriously,

535
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: what were his options? They didn't have a high draft pick.

536
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Now.

537
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: Could he got really aggressive and traded up. Maybe, but

538
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Speaker 1: it feels like it would have been hard to jump

539
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: all these teams that wanted quarterbacks. Could he have signed

540
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Sam Donald? Okay, he could have. Would Sam Donald probably

541
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Speaker 1: have looked like he did in Minnesota for Luke Getzy

542
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: and Antonio Pierce? Doubtful? He signed Gardner Minshew, who actually

543
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: was just a solid kind of bridge guy when Anthony

544
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Speaker 1: Richardson got hurt and theyde O'Connell. Like, I just don't

545
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: see what his options were. I'm not disputing that it

546
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a good situation with the two quarterbacks, but I

547
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: think his options are pretty limited. Like if you go

548
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Speaker 1: into the offseason and you don't have a quarterback typically,

549
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: and you're not drafting really really high to get one

550
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Speaker 1: of the guys you want. For sure, it can be

551
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: pretty difficult. I will defend coaches slash gms Dick sometimes

552
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: fall into a predicament. Even this offseason. There's more options,

553
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: are there?

554
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Speaker 2: Really?

555
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: What you got a forty one year old Aaron Rodgers?

556
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: You have a thirty seven, thirty eight year old Kirk

557
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Cousins who looks terrible. Sam Darnold is not going to

558
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: be available to me. It would take like a four

559
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: interception game against the Rams for them just to let

560
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: him walk, even if he had the same game he

561
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: had against the Lions. I think they're franchising. So who

562
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: you signing, Jimmy Garoppolo, Carson Wentz? What are your options?

563
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Speaker 1: My name is Brandon and I'm twenty four about to

564
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: be twenty five. Jealous you're in the prime of your life.

565
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Well not really, but you're just in the prime of

566
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Speaker 1: your youth. Just great times, no worries. I didn't go

567
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: to college right out of high school and I went

568
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: to work instead. But I realize now that having a

569
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: degree can open as well as I think it could

570
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: be insanely cool to be an NFL Scout. I have

571
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: a couple questions. I love if you answered, but even

572
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: if you didn't, I still want to say love watch

573
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Speaker 1: the podcast. My questions are, is a degree necessary to

574
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Speaker 1: be an NFL scout? If so, which field should I

575
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: look to study. That's a good question. I I don't

576
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Speaker 1: know the answer to that because I was coming like,

577
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I obviously have a an undergraduate degree, and then when

578
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Speaker 1: I got hired with the Eagles, I was going to

579
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Speaker 1: graduate school and I guess, yeah, I got a graduate

580
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: degree at Fresno State. But if I hadn't, I guess

581
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: they saw my resume. I would imagine it would be

582
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: pretty difficult to become a scout without a degree. I

583
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Speaker 1: would imagine if you went around the NFL and just

584
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: looked at every guy that works in a front office,

585
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: the only guys that might not have a degree would

586
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: be former players that played in the NFL that never

587
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: actually quote unquote graduated college, but had attended college playing football,

588
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: and then just after their playing career got into coaching

589
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: or scout. But two that there are no fields.

590
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Speaker 2: The fields.

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Speaker 1: No one asks you if you're meeting with like Belichick

592
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: or Kyle Shanahan, like tell me about what you studied

593
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: in college. Nobody cares. It's one of those professions. It's

594
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: not like a doctor or architecture or engineering. It's there's

595
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: nothing you can learn in school that can help you

596
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: do what your job is going to be. Scouting players

597
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: or front office. They'll teach everything you need to know.

598
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm a cheese fan, but after listening to your Antonio

599
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Pierce pod, I can't help but think how great of

600
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: a move it would be for the Raiders to trade

601
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: for Mike Tomlin any reason they shouldn't in your mind,

602
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, crazy at all. I would trade

603
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: for Mike tom and I fire them for sure. Now

604
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: do I think they're gonna do that? I don't, but

605
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm recording this before they play on Saturday Night. But

606
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: if he loses, and obviously he's a big, big underdog

607
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: in that game, I don't see how they just keep

608
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: going on. That's my question. How do you just keep

609
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: going on doing the same thing, doing the same thing

610
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: over and over like except expecting different results. But it

611
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: feels like they're pretty.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They just don't budge. They're just very loyal to him,

614
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: which he's good in this notion, of like, what are they?

615
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes just sometimes you need a change.

616
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: Do you just change for the sake of changing?

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Speaker 2: Of course not.

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Speaker 1: But do you get to the point where Jim Harbaugh

619
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Speaker 1: has won more playoff games than you in the last

620
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Speaker 1: fifteen years when he spent eight years at Michigan. Is

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Speaker 1: that a problem? Yeah, because the knock is always.

622
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Speaker 2: Like, well, who's his quarter back?

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Kenny Pickett, Old Roethlisberger. So yeah, this dude

624
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: was winning playoff games with Alex Smith, lighten people up

625
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: with Kaepernick. So it can be done if your team

626
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: is good, if Miami is willing to part with Tyreek.

627
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: What do you think of Washington acquiring him to help Jaden?

628
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: I could see him filling a role to Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Junior at LSU. You know, I saw God, I love

630
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: this guy. Drew Rosenhaus could sell ice to an Eskima.

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Speaker 1: He is so good and so captivating when he just

632
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: is on television and has a mic in front of

633
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Speaker 1: his hand and he was just able to sell me.

634
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I got Tyreek hurtis wrist in training camp.

635
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Speaker 1: I think it was against the Washington Commanders in a

636
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: joint practice, played all season injured when a lot of

637
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: people said he should have got surgery. So you know,

638
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: you can say he had.

639
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Speaker 2: A down year.

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Speaker 1: They're missing a quarterback. I mean, Tyreek's shittiest of the

641
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: year out of his career. You know, in nineteen he

642
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: had a down year, but he was injured. He had

643
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: eighty one catches, lowest average per per catch, you know,

644
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: in his basically in his entire career, beside his rookie season,

645
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: still had six touchdowns, no rushing touchdowns. I'm not opposed

646
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Speaker 1: if I'm of a team like Washington to acquire him.

647
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: But he's got a lot of wear and tear. I mean,

648
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's been in the league

649
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Speaker 1: one two three, four, five six, seven, eight nine. So

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Speaker 1: next year's gonna be his tenth season. And he's a

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Speaker 1: speed guy. So if we just do let's just look

652
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Speaker 1: Randy Moss year ten, what that looked like, because that

653
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Speaker 1: would make me a little nervous. One two three, four,

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Speaker 1: five six, seven eight nine ten. I mean year ten

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Speaker 1: was actually seven with the Pats. He had fifteen hundred

656
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Speaker 1: yards and twenty three touchdowns. No big deal. Yeah, I

657
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed I would say the highest I would

658
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Speaker 1: go would be like a third round pick, because you

659
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Speaker 1: do have to attempt to kind of mitigate, you know,

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Speaker 1: your problems, because or mitigate and just have contingency plans

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out. You know, obviously the Patriots

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss, they hit a home run year ten. They

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Speaker 1: got him for a fourth round pick. Found you in

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Speaker 1: Collins podcast, like you, I just want you to look

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Speaker 1: up something called the Paretto distribution, also known as the

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Speaker 1: Matthew principle by some economists. I think it kind of

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Speaker 1: depicts the reality you talk about a lot regarding the

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00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: incompetence of the owners, the coaches, and the players. To

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Speaker 1: make this more of a question, I'll ask this, do

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Speaker 1: you think it's possible, given the statistical reality, for there

671
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Speaker 1: to be an abundance of highly confident and successful teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL where all the teams are beaten up

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Speaker 1: on each other? Well, just based on like you said,

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Speaker 1: they all play each other. Right, if you just use

675
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Speaker 1: like use the setup of the sport, not everyone like

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Speaker 1: twenty teams couldn't win eleven games, right, you are gonna

677
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Speaker 1: have winners and losers a lot like society. Our society now,

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Speaker 1: because not everyone's in the same industry, we can have

679
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Speaker 1: a lot of winners, but for capitalism to truly work,

680
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Speaker 1: there has to be losers.

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Speaker 2: That's just the nature of the beast.

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Speaker 1: Right, you have a building that is I don't know,

683
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Speaker 1: thirty stories high. There's only so many corner offices in

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Speaker 1: the top several floors. Someone has to clean the toilets,

685
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Speaker 1: right unless it turns into a robot, which is probably coming,

686
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Speaker 1: and the robots will clean the toilets. But someone has

687
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Speaker 1: to have the number one overall pick. Someone has to

688
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Some team is just statistically going

689
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Speaker 1: to lose a bunch of close games and have five

690
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: wins instead of having ten or eleven because they were

691
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Speaker 1: awesome in close games. So there is some randomness to

692
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Speaker 1: winning and losing on an individual game. But over the

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Speaker 1: course of a season, over the course of a decade,

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Speaker 1: that is where it's harder to get like the statistical

695
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: anomalies and the cream rises. And I think some people

696
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Speaker 1: are just more talented than others. Like, that's just the

697
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Speaker 1: nature of the beast. In highly competitive industries, some people

698
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Speaker 1: are just better than others. Now, those individuals have some

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Speaker 1: luck along the way, right, is there some element of

700
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Speaker 1: luck and things that go your way that are out

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Speaker 1: of your control. Of course, the Chiefs the way that

702
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Speaker 1: they handled the Mahome situation coming out of college, they

703
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: knew the Saints really liked them, and what if the

704
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Saints would have done some crazy, crazy power play and

705
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: jumped ahead of them and got them. But I think

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Speaker 1: we could play that with a lot of situations in life.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the exact rules or details of the

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Speaker 1: of the theory that you laid out, but I think

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Speaker 1: anytime you're dealing with human beings, one, you could be

710
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Speaker 1: really talented and having a lot of skills that should

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Speaker 1: translate when I hire you to be my coach or

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Speaker 1: my GM or even my quarterback. And there are things

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Speaker 1: that I can't measure that maybe mentally that you break

714
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Speaker 1: down and you weren't meant to be the superstar or

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Speaker 1: the stud head coach or the stud GM, even though

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Speaker 1: you know in a controlled environment as the number two

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Speaker 1: with less pressure, It's like, how can this guy fail?

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Speaker 1: How can this guy not.

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Speaker 4: Be a star?

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Speaker 1: I just add more variables to the equation. When you

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Speaker 1: become you know, from coordinator to head coach, from assistant

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Speaker 1: GM to the GM, from like the college star to

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Speaker 1: the pros. It's just really, really difficult. Luckily, as a player,

724
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Speaker 1: it's not the same as a coach or GM. You

725
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Speaker 1: can still make a lot of money being number twos

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Speaker 1: at those other two roles. Hell, you can make a

727
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Speaker 1: lot of money being the backup quarterback. I mean, how

728
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Speaker 1: long's Mariota going to play for making cash?

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Speaker 2: Same with Wentz.

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Speaker 1: I'm currently living the mountains and I'm a fifty year

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Speaker 1: plus Chiefs fan. I've been the head of security at

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Speaker 1: the Barrett Jackson Auto Auction for many many years, and

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Speaker 1: i also run security at the Birds Nest.

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Speaker 2: Concerts for the Phoenix Open.

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Speaker 1: I'm writing you to invite you to either. If you

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Speaker 1: would like to attend the concerts at the auto Auction,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can afford the tickets. Just thought you

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Speaker 1: might like an easier way to attend.

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Speaker 2: I thought I would.

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Speaker 4: I like this guy.

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Speaker 1: Since the quarterbacks are the most valuable players in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: we should not allow any teams drafting the top ten

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Speaker 1: to be able to select a quarterback. They stink, the

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Speaker 1: record stinks, and they probably don't have the assets at

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Speaker 1: the O line or skill positions to support the development

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Speaker 1: of a rookie quarterback. Teams outside of the top ten

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Speaker 1: can trade up to ten to be able to draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: These are better teams.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback draft pay slide, the quarterback draft pay scale slide. Accordingly,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've had a lot of theories over should

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Speaker 1: there be a lottery, should the worst teams get the

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Speaker 1: best picks?

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Speaker 2: They're fun to.

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Speaker 1: Have these conversations. I don't think the NFL has showed

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Speaker 1: any inclination, and I mean any to make any changes.

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Speaker 1: Did see Belichick earlier this year talking about the lottery.

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Speaker 1: I'd be all for that. So let's say the top

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Speaker 1: five teams of the top five worst records in the

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Speaker 1: NFL all have the statistical the same chance in the lottery.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, the Titans could get the number

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Speaker 1: one pick, or they could have the fourth pick. I'd

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Speaker 1: have no issue with that, But it also just doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like that's happening. Bears fan here, please be brutally

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Speaker 1: honest and rip on my team if needed. To answer

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Speaker 1: the question, do you think the Bears have a chance

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Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl in the next ten years?

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Speaker 1: If not, how about twenty. Diehard Cubs fan, so I

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Speaker 1: know the possibility eventually, but damn it feels like they

770
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Speaker 1: do everything so poorly in an age where the blueprint

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Speaker 1: is there and they do something else. PS, you have

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Speaker 1: a dream job. I love tux Sports. Thanks good, Thanks Nick.

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Speaker 1: I would say let's use the Cubs as an example.

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Speaker 1: The Cubs really really sucked, right, and they am pulling

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Speaker 1: up his Wikipedia right now to find out what year

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Speaker 1: they hired him. They were terrible, and they hired theo

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Speaker 1: Epstein in twenty twelve, and then obviously four or five years.

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Speaker 2: Later they win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: But theo Epstein is one of the most transformative sports

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Speaker 1: executives of my lifetime. Pat Riley, you know Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: It's just a very very short list of guys that

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Speaker 1: have his resume and I'm looking right now. So in

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Speaker 1: October twelfth, twenty eleven, the cub signed Epstein to a

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Speaker 1: five year, basically twenty million dollar contract. So they gave

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Speaker 1: the keys to a guy who held lead the change

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Speaker 1: to end one of the longest curses in the history

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Speaker 1: of our country when it comes to sports, probably the longest, right,

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Speaker 1: definitely the most talked about one at the time when

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox won it and he was just a

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Speaker 1: young hot shot. I mean he kind of felt like,

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Speaker 1: you know, a Steve Jobs an Elon Musk something like

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Speaker 1: that of baseball and what he did to be the

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Speaker 1: GM of the two teams that could never win the

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Speaker 1: World Series. And so you look at the Bears and

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Speaker 1: you go, can they win it?

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Speaker 2: And you use the.

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Speaker 1: Cubs as an example, Well, are they going to hire

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Speaker 1: a theo Epstein? Like are they going to hire a

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Speaker 1: theo Epstein? Because if they don't, then and their theo

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Speaker 1: Epstein to me is the coach's whether it's Frable, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Ben Johnson, whoever it is. If they get the

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Speaker 1: theo right, you could argue it's Vrabel. Just get a

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Speaker 1: Vrabel and I don't know if you'll win a World Series,

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Speaker 1: but at.

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Speaker 4: Least you'll be good.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like they're more likely to hire the

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Speaker 1: ball dude from Arizona. Now. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: necessarily like a theo Epstein sitting out there right now,

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00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: right there's not Ted Thompson of the Packers or John

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Speaker 1: Schneider of Seattle. Go steal one of those guys. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's like the game, because baseball is

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Speaker 1: obviously way different than football, but didn't who was there?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Joe Madden their coach, So they got THEO and

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Speaker 1: Joe Madden. I mean, think about that combination. How long

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Speaker 1: was Joe Madden their coach for? Yeah, from fifteen, so

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Speaker 1: they hired him. Fifteen he won, and sixteen they probably

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Speaker 1: had the best coach GM combination there for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. Even though baseball is different, it still has

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Speaker 1: a lot of similarities in terms of you need the

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Speaker 1: best people to win. Lifelong Cardinals fan here, Why do

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Speaker 1: so many people think Kyler should be traded? Do people

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Speaker 1: not watch all the teams and realize how much worse

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Speaker 1: we can do than Kyler? Has struggled at quarterback for

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Speaker 1: years before Kyler. Our shortcomings as a team are on

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Speaker 1: the defense. We had Buffalo Minnesota beat defense is awful.

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Speaker 2: He's not getting.

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Speaker 4: Traded like you said.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you didn't say it, but I'll say, he's not

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Speaker 1: a perfect player, and he's not even a top ten quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but he's better than fifteen ish guys, and he's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a roller coaster. He could make some

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Speaker 1: bad decisions, you could do way worse, and to me,

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Speaker 1: as you build up this team. You just he's under contract.

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Speaker 1: You just keep playing it out. I'm a Jets fan

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Speaker 1: and in pain, and the question I had for the

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Speaker 1: pod is what is the path forward? Is there a

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Speaker 1: path forward with the roster they currently have with the

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Speaker 1: right head coach and Rogers or should they scrap it

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Speaker 1: and rebuild it? Well, I think you got to remove

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Speaker 1: you gotta or you gotta separate the two things. To me,

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Speaker 1: Rogers is in his own bucket. He's a forty forty

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Speaker 1: one year old guy who had a couple of good

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: games this season. And then you have the roster which

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Speaker 1: has a lot of good pieces Quinn Williams, Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Breis Hall, the Penn State, Ifashanho was at

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Speaker 1: his name, the guy you just drafted in the top

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Speaker 1: whatever fifteen, you got some good pieces on the team.

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Speaker 1: So to me, the roster is intriguing. Could you just

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Speaker 1: play another season with Rogers? I think you could. But

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Speaker 1: if they hired Rex Ryan, Rex Ryan already said he's gone.

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Speaker 1: I bet there are some coaches that are in the

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Speaker 1: interview and go, yeah, we could function with.

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Speaker 2: Him for a year.

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Speaker 1: And I think there are others like get rid of them.

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Speaker 1: But my question is what do you do at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: And I like we talked about with the Raiders. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a great answer, like Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 1: I like Shadoor more than most, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: expect him to be a very good player as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Draft idea that's been floating around on Instagram and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to know your thoughts. Week seventeen was garbage. So

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00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: to make games matter more once you are mathematically eliminated,

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Speaker 1: you get points for each win. Teams with the most

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Speaker 1: points get the top pick. This helps both sides. Players

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Speaker 1: aren't going to be in worst possible situation and force

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Speaker 1: this team to continue to win games for the fans,

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Speaker 1: I don't all these teams are trying to win. All

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Speaker 1: these teams are attempting to win these games, right. We

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Speaker 1: just saw the Giants win the second to last week

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Speaker 1: literally happened. The Patriots won the last game of the season.

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Speaker 1: All these teams are attempting to win. The only time

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Speaker 1: a team doesn't really care, and to me, they got

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Speaker 1: the right is like the Chiefs Week eight team, the

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Speaker 1: Rams Week eight team. It's like, yeah, those teams have

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Speaker 1: already won the division, so every other team tries help.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers were trying just to get a better seat,

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Speaker 1: Same with the Chargers. I don't hate these outside the

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Speaker 1: box ideas, but I also we have to acknowledge they're

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Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. What are your thoughts on Watson's future?

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Speaker 1: Also as a Saints fan? Your thoughts on Rattler's performance, Uh, Deshaun, Well,

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Speaker 1: he tore his achilles again. I think there's a good

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Speaker 1: chance he never plays another snap in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: think that he is His status as an NFL player

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Speaker 1: was in major jeopardy when he tore his achilles. Now

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Speaker 1: that he tears it again in January, and is I

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Speaker 1: mean all science point that he can't play in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. I don't think we ever see him play again. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the toxicity that surrounds him that if he's ever cut,

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Speaker 1: I don't see anyone else messing with him. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: played good football in such a long period of time,

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Speaker 1: So I think Watson's big picture status is in major,

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Speaker 1: major jeopardy. I would say about Rattler, I'd be lying

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Speaker 1: if I said I watched you guys play that much

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Speaker 1: less two or three weeks. Do you think the Browns

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Speaker 1: should try to trade out of their number two overall

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Speaker 1: pick and acquire more picks or should they just stay

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Speaker 1: put and draft the best player available like Travis Hunter. Also,

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Speaker 1: in terms of quarterbacks, do you think it would be

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Speaker 1: wise for them to acquire someone like Fields or JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: We are both still young enough and are both coachable

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Speaker 1: and mouldable to still have an impact in the league. Well,

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Speaker 1: Fields is gonna be a free agent, so obviously he's

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Speaker 1: a backup for the Steelers. I would imagine they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna resign them, so you could just sign Justin Fields. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if that's people are gonna be interested in him,

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Speaker 1: and he won't cost that much. Jj, you'd have to

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Speaker 1: trade for In given that Minnesota hasn't shown any desire

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Speaker 1: to get rid of them. Obviously they're only a year in.

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Speaker 1: But I are you gonna trade your first round pick

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Speaker 1: for him? One problem is gonna be for the Browns

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Speaker 1: like is Denzanders gonna lets Shador Sanders go there if

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Speaker 1: cam Ward goes one. I don't imagine Dion allowing that.

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Speaker 2: Now. I clicked on this.

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Speaker 1: YouTube of Shador talking Shador was like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just God's plan. I'll kind of go wherever it's

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Speaker 1: not my control. Just let whatever happened. Now, that's not

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Speaker 1: how Deon talks. Now, it's Shador's life, but that's something

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Would Dion allow his son

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Speaker 1: to go to the Browns? Okay, last question, I have

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Speaker 1: a question for the mailbag and want your opinion. Who

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Speaker 1: would you say are the top ten to fifteen NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks of all time? Well, I feel the most confident

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Speaker 1: talking about it in my life, so it is hard.

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Speaker 1: Like Johnny Unitas, fran Tarkington, I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if many people would consider Ken Stabler. But like guys

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Speaker 1: that played in the sixties and seventies, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a great feel for them, and the guys that were

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Speaker 1: in the prime in their eighties La Montana, Dan Marino,

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Speaker 1: for example, even Jim Kelly, but I didn't watch them

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Speaker 1: play in their prime. Now we all agree that Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino, and John Elway are all top ten quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: right to me, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Top ten quarterback. So that's five guys I think Rogers, Farv,

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Speaker 1: Steve Young would go in there, and then I just

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Speaker 1: think we start arguing. You know, the guys that are

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Speaker 1: playing right now, I think.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes, Lamar and Josh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see Joe Burrow. I mean, those guys

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Speaker 1: have a lot of career left. Mahomes to me, based

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Speaker 1: on his resume, he's won a couple MVPs, he's won.

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Speaker 2: Three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: How do you not argue that he's already a top

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Speaker 1: ten guy of all time. But guys that aren't still

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Speaker 1: playing Rogers I'll count as of you know, retired, But

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Speaker 1: I would go Brady won. Of the guys that I watched,

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Speaker 1: obviously you include let's just include the guys from the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I'd go Brady one, Montana two. It's some order three

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Speaker 1: through five. I would have Manning, Lway, Marino, Rogers, Farv,

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Speaker 1: kind of that group. I'm sure I'm probably missing someone,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think most people think Troy aikman'

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Speaker 1: is a top ten player. I think Steve Young is

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Speaker 1: a better player. Though Aikman won more Super Bowls as

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. But I think Steve Young's better than

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. I think if you're just looking at the nineties,

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Speaker 1: far to me, clearly the best quarterback of the nineties

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Speaker 1: probably goes Far then Young to the two thousands and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenties. I mean, it's pretty clear Brady Manning, Rogers

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Speaker 1: kind of separated themselves. Now Mahomes has jolted himself in there,

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Speaker 1: and then I think, you know, some people might argue

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I feel like I'm missing someone top ten

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks stallback. It's hard for me to discuss him. Rogers, Marino, Lay, Farv, Manning, Montana.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fair. I think the argument is

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Speaker 1: is the group is Montana, Marino, Elway. I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I'm just talking as true players on a

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Speaker 1: weekly basis. Is that trio better? Like how would you

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Speaker 1: rank the trios eighties, Montana, Lway, Marino, Nineties, Farv Young,

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Speaker 1: Aikman two thousands and I would go tens as well,

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Speaker 1: you would go Brady Manning, Rogers, and now this crew,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely Mahomes, I'd say right now, Mahomes, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Burrow.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good group. Pretty good group.

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Speaker 1: The volume