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Speaker 1: Did you know he's a classmate William and Mary of

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Speaker 1: gotten a way more punishment than he did. The Cleveland

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Speaker 1: player who came in and hit Mason Rudolph from behind

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Speaker 1: after it was all over should have gotten more punishment

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Speaker 1: than he did. Di Castro should have gotten worse than

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Speaker 1: he did. All of the things I think you really

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Speaker 1: as a league and as a commissioner, I think he

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Speaker 1: really missed an opportunity to send to have a real

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Speaker 1: chilling effect on the rest of the league. An ugly

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Speaker 1: incident like that cannot and should not and should not

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Speaker 1: be tolerated. And I think the punishments that was meet

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Speaker 1: that were meeted out by the league to everybody involved

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Speaker 1: except Miles Garrett. I think he got what he deserved

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Speaker 1: six games and the rest of what eventually was the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season, and he was left in limbo

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Speaker 1: until way after the Super Bowl before he ever heard

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Speaker 1: how it was going to come down. I think that's fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with what happened to him, but I think

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Speaker 1: everybody else should have been painted with the almost the

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Speaker 1: same brush, not not the whole rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: but multiple games and big time fines. I think it

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Speaker 1: was ugly, and I think those players should have paid

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Speaker 1: the price for their role in it, whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: As varied as it was, it should have all come

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Speaker 1: down a lot harder and a lot more severe than

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Speaker 1: it did. There were price That's just my opinion. Fines

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Speaker 1: fad I just looked it up, finds totaling seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty two thousand dollars issued nine days after them.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was a Thursday night game, not

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Speaker 1: a Monday night game. Last year, Mason Rudolph got a

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars fine for his role. Pittsburgh center Marquis

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Speaker 1: Pouncy got a thirty five thousand dollars fine for his role.

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Speaker 1: Brown's defensive tackle Larry Ogan Job suspended for one game,

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Speaker 1: got a ten thousand dollars find It was rescinded upon appeal.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think finds all over the place to

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Speaker 1: Marius Randall, find twenty eight thousand Steelers receiver, he was

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Speaker 1: ejected to Marius Randall was there were a ton of fines,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fines on that, and but the biggest price,

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Speaker 1: you're right, was paid by Miles Garrett forty five thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars fine and as it turns out, a six game

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Speaker 1: suspension of both the Steelers and the Browns fine two

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand dollars. As a team, it was a mess.

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Speaker 1: It was a bad look for the team. Does that

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Speaker 1: prevent that from ever happening again? Do you think no?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I can't imagine Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: will get invoved and something like that again. But well,

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Speaker 1: the others, I think the others will because they didn't

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Speaker 1: get punished as harshly as Miles Garrett did. I think

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Speaker 1: that's six games, that's the message. That's the message you

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Speaker 1: got to send. Six games is thirty plus percent of

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Speaker 1: your paychecks too. Yeah, so if you're if you're making

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Speaker 1: six million bucks, it cost you two million bucks. Forget

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Speaker 1: a fifty thousand dollars. Fine, you're talking to a couple

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Speaker 1: of million bucks for guys who lose almost a half

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Speaker 1: a season. That's big time chilling effect. Guys aren't going

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Speaker 1: to do that. The rest of them. The teams Brown Steelers,

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Speaker 1: I can imagine another chippy game between them after this

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Speaker 1: one left. Well they played after this one, Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, and it was it was event free.

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Speaker 1: I ain't Mason Rudolph. It should have sent a message.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he was there, the last guy

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Speaker 1: on their roster, you know which he was at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, remember the Steelers were going through it with

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Speaker 1: the injuries of their quarterbacks. That's too bad. You got

488
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Speaker 1: to sit down for a while. If you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a part of that and do what you did. He

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Speaker 1: tried to end the thing that he tried to rip

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Speaker 1: Myles Garrett's helmet off, And maybe maybe not, he probably

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Speaker 1: said something to Garrett. Even if it wasn't racially charged,

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Speaker 1: it was certainly charged with emotion. It wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a hey, man, I'm gonna try and take your helmet off.

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Speaker 1: It was like, hey, you know, make your own fill

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Speaker 1: in the blank. Sure he wasn't wishing the guy a

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Speaker 1: nice day, no matter what he said. Uh, pouncey, there's

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Speaker 1: no excuse for that swinging a couple of times, standing

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Speaker 1: up and kicking a guy in the head. Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: no way, man, You're done for a while. Uh. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, it's just a hugely ugly incident.

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Speaker 1: And I think you need to you need to sweep

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Speaker 1: the deck almost, you know. And I think the league

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Speaker 1: should have swept the deck. And you know they like

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Speaker 1: right now, I mean a cooler heads. And I think,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett at the end, that's enough for half six games,

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Speaker 1: is okay? I agree, But man, just fines one guy

508
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Speaker 1: got one game suspended. Other than that, that's not enough

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Speaker 1: to me. All right to me? But I inclined to agree.

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Speaker 1: I think Garrett paid the stiffest price, was obviously the

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Speaker 1: most visible offender, but there was other stuff going on

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Speaker 1: there that we can't hear and didn't see everything right.

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Speaker 1: We were limited to just what we see on TV.

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Speaker 1: It was bad. Miles Garrett reinstated following his six game

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Speaker 1: suspension last year. It was a suspension that was not unlimited.

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Speaker 1: When we're trying to say there was no time point

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Speaker 1: on it when he got suspended in November tenth and

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Speaker 1: he comes back at the start of the season. All right,

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Speaker 1: Twitter question today, This is interesting. I think see how

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Speaker 1: it works out. Love to hear your phone line. Hearing

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Speaker 1: on the phone line. We didn't get a ton of

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Speaker 1: calls the last few days. I think we're missing the

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Speaker 1: point when it comes to engaging Bills fans. We had

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Speaker 1: a couple of questions about NFL issues in opposition to

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Speaker 1: Bill stuff. But here's the for you. As the Bills

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Speaker 1: get ready for this off season, they made their move

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Speaker 1: with Lotula yesterday. It's simple, finish the sentence. The bold

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Speaker 1: move I want to see the Bills make this offseason

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Speaker 1: is what I would you like to see the Bills do?

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Speaker 1: A bold move? Not you know, resigned Quentin Spain or whatever,

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Speaker 1: not something simple like that. What's a bold move you're

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Speaker 1: looking to see the Bills make this offseason? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight h three h five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You

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Speaker 1: can send in a tweet on our tweet sheet. Not

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Speaker 1: taking a poll here today, but just asking the question.

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Speaker 1: The bold move I want to see the Bills from

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Speaker 1: the Bills this offseason is what sending a tweet to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. Let's read a few of them. The

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. Let's start with this one

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Speaker 1: from John bold move, I want to see the Bills

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Speaker 1: make is file a lawsuit against the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: for reasons Why Steve Tasker is there? I'll effective you

545
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Speaker 1: think that might be we're suing to get our guy

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Your turn. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen yet. No, No, it's not. Uh, Tiffany says,

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Speaker 1: trade up in the first round selected dynamic playmaker A

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Speaker 1: player A defensive coordinator lays awake at night trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to stop, preferably a guy that can

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Speaker 1: take some pressure off. Josh Lamb and Swift are two

552
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Speaker 1: offensive studs. So starting right there, trading up in the

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Speaker 1: first round. They did it to get Josh Allen. They

554
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Speaker 1: were pretty aggressive in doing it. It paid off. They

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Speaker 1: got a guy. Um they traded up to get Did

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Speaker 1: they trade up to get Tremaine? I think they did,

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Speaker 1: didn't they? Yeah? Yeah, I mean that they have not

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Speaker 1: been averse to doing that kind of stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's always fun when they do. Oh my gosh, um,

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Speaker 1: because it's always traded up last year to get Aliber, right,

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Speaker 1: didn't they They might have? No? Maybe not, No, he

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Speaker 1: was not I think they know because Oliver we were

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Speaker 1: all shocked that he fell and they were they were

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Speaker 1: really happy to get trade it down two years, three

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Speaker 1: years ago now to take a tradevious White. Right. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could trade up. I mean people tell you what

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Speaker 1: they look they have nine draft picks and they're all

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Speaker 1: in the not all, but many of them are fifth

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Speaker 1: and sixth rounds. So that's time. If you've got a

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Speaker 1: player who can be a difference maker is, as Tiffany says,

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Speaker 1: a dynamic playmaker. Yeah, use some of those picks and

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Speaker 1: trade up get the guy you want. They don't need

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Speaker 1: bodies this offseason. They don't need to fill positions and

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Speaker 1: get bodies. They need a dynamic playmaker. She points out.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to and I guess that's the philosophy. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to see him get better at the top

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Speaker 1: of the roster, because I think that's what you're trying.

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Speaker 1: You're always trying to add the biggest and best players

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Speaker 1: you can possibly get. And what it does it the

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Speaker 1: whole roster shifts down by one level and the bottom

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Speaker 1: guys are the ones you lose. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: try and you're trying to fill in. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: always you can always churn the bottom of the roster

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Speaker 1: by like on Tuesday's they bring these guys in and

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Speaker 1: work him out. And if he's a better athlete than

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Speaker 1: this guy, hey he can cover kicks. You know, let's

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00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: let's bring him in. But if you want to bring

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Speaker 1: in a play you want to get better, bring guys

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Speaker 1: into the top of the roster. Bring a guy in

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Speaker 1: that's better than all your wide receivers. Bring a guy

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Speaker 1: in this better then you're running backs. Bring a guy

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Speaker 1: and that's better than all your offensive linemen. Get those

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Speaker 1: guys and that's when you get better. You get these

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Speaker 1: guys that are difference makers. And I think that's uh,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what most people will, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of plug into at this this Twitter question. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: focus a little bit today on the offensive line and

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00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: what the picture looks like on the offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: what you'd like to see the picture look like, and

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Speaker 1: the state of the Bills at the on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with Chris Brown, Bills Insider from Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot com about that. Also get Chris's thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: post he put up on Buffalo bills dot com today

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Speaker 1: about reasons to be optimistic for the Bills in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Brownie's coming up in studio with us. Chris Brown, come

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Speaker 1: on back, one Bills Live coming to you from the

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Speaker 1: Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. Steve's got new glasses. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: is with us. It's up of those glasses. By the way, Steve,

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Speaker 1: they're tiny. They are well, the tinier the better for me,

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Speaker 1: you know. Real. Yeah, I want him to disappear but

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Speaker 1: they're they're nice because I I can the cheaters so

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Speaker 1: I don't need them all the time, so I can

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Speaker 1: put them on to still use them without using them.

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Speaker 1: We see, use him with that. I won't put them up.

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Speaker 1: Can you? What could you see better with these? I

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Speaker 1: can wear them without using them. See what I'm saying? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess. So you're gonna lose those and I'll give him.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him eight days a week. Yeah, the over

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Speaker 1: under four days. Get a good look at them today

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Speaker 1: under Friday. Chris Brown is with US Bills Insider from

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Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com. Good afternoon, Chris, what's up with you?

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Speaker 1: And see when the red stuff we're gonna have Moses

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Speaker 1: come in. He's gonna sit right here and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: part both of us. It's exactly, absolutely identical. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a nice look. Yeah, pretty too. It's good to have

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Speaker 1: you here, Chris. You're a good Brownie. Thank you, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Good to have you here. Let me get you in

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Speaker 1: on a Twitter poll today. Finish it's a simple and

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Speaker 1: finish this sentence. The bold move I want to see

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Speaker 1: the bills make is You're not a bold guy. You're

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Speaker 1: not looking well it's not that I think that more

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Speaker 1: often than not, we do not see bold strokes by

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Speaker 1: the front office, at least with respect to free agency.

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Speaker 1: There are exceptions. Mitch Morrise was won last year. That

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Speaker 1: was probably largely unanticipated, seeing that kind of money being

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Speaker 1: thrown around for a center. But I think they saw

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Speaker 1: the void that you know, the the untimely retirement of

639
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: Eric Wood and what that did to that offensive line.

640
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: It was one of a couple of dominoes that fell

641
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: there and they could not do anything offensively in twenty

642
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Speaker 1: eighteen because of it. So it prompted a bold move?

643
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: Is there? So that maybe maybe the follow up question

644
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: to your question, to answer a question with a question,

645
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Speaker 1: is is there an area on this team right now

646
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: that requires a bold move? What about receiver? You could

647
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: argue that, I think you could. I hesitate to think

648
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: that one is going to be made in free agency,

649
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: and the reason why is because right now you have

650
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: the let me think I want to get this right,

651
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: third and sixth highest cap figures on this team going

652
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: to John Brown and Cole Beasley already. Do they think

653
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: it's fiscally responsible to take a third player and put

654
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: him into that top five category? I don't know that

655
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: they do. So with that in mind, that leads you

656
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: to believe they either go affordable route at the receiver

657
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: position in free agency and then back it up with

658
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: a high draft choice somewhere in the first two days.

659
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that I could see them

660
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: doing at the defensive end position as well. Yeah, I could.

661
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're gonna go break the bank

662
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: on a pass rusher in free agency unless they make

663
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: other moves with their salary cap right now, because including

664
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Speaker 1: you know, renegotiating a deal with UM. Yeah, even though

665
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: they've done that, three of the top five cap figures

666
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: on this roster go to defensive alignment right now. Trent

667
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Murphy's number two, Jerry Hughes is number three or four,

668
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: and Star is five. So even with that, three of

669
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: your top five cap figures on your roster are going

670
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: to defensive alignemen. So you either make a very difficult

671
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: decision and then go break the bank for somebody on

672
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: the free agent market. Yeah, and I can gock Way

673
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: whoever you want to go chase after and you probably

674
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: draft one two so that those are so I here

675
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: you a bold move could happen. But I think some

676
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: other dominoes may have to fall for it to happen.

677
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: Let me get you seven on this and Brownie. Um,

678
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: are they in need of a bold move? I think

679
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: they might be. We talked about a half hour ago

680
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: when we started the show. They need to take the

681
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: next step. Um, they're they're they're pretty good team. They

682
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: need to be a really good team, and they need

683
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: to be that really good team soon like they here

684
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: or next. Sure, why not make a bold move now? Well,

685
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: if it's a responsible move, I don't think it's a problem.

686
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: They won't have a problem making it, no question about it.

687
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: But it's got to be in line with their finances

688
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: and it can't set them. It can't put them in

689
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: a hole. Here's the problem. You want to make those moves.

690
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: Everybody will make those moves. But if the move doesn't work,

691
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: it can't put you in a hole it'll take you

692
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: two years to get out of, especially knowing that you've

693
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: got people like Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano, Frey White. I mean,

694
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Speaker 1: run down the list of guys that you know this

695
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: franchise wants to retain. Sure, and we'll have to probably

696
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: pay a pretty penny for each one of those players

697
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: to keep them here. That's the that's the thing. So

698
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: if you make that move that you're saying and you miss, yeah,

699
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Hamstring yourself. If you miss, it can't

700
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: crush you going forward. And that's where they've stayed away from.

701
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: They've taken some swings and you can make. You can

702
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: make whatever analogy you want. If people don't like the

703
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: way Starlo to Le has played, or Mitch Morrise has played,

704
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: or or Trent Murphy has played, it didn't kill him.

705
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they get kick one of those guys at

706
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: the curb or all three of them, and yeah, it's

707
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: a bummer because you have to replace him a lot,

708
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: but it's you still got eighty million in cap space,

709
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: right and more if you make moves like you're saying. Right,

710
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: But that's my point is you can make those moves

711
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: and even if they don't work. Even if if Trent

712
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Murphy say, well I was a complete bust, Well he's okay,

713
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: but he's not. You're not paying him fifty two million bucks,

714
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. That's my point. Any

715
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: of these moves that they've made so far, even even

716
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: though they you know, have maybe not hit a home

717
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: run or maybe they have hit home run. What if

718
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: they go belly up and the movie isn't working, it's

719
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: not going to kill him. So if you can find

720
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: a deal like that out there, and say, for instance,

721
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: you you trade for Khalil Macmouth two years into the

722
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: deal in Chicago, you get him on his third year

723
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: with two years left. Okay, what do you got to

724
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: give up to get him? And if you have to

725
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: give up, you're willing to take. Well, I'll try and

726
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: get him for twenty five million a year with only

727
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: one year guaranteed. If it doesn't work, yeah, okay, you

728
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: saved that money next year. Right. That is a blockbuster move.

729
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: That is not happening. Right. But even if it does

730
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work out, you're only on the hook

731
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: for this year. Right. So that's the kind of move

732
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: you can't. You say, Okay, that could happen, but you're

733
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: not going to sign a guy to a five year deal,

734
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars deal, and if it goes belly

735
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: up sixteen months into it, now you're stuck. And the

736
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: boldest move this team might make is signing one of

737
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: their members of the twenty seventeen draft class to a

738
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: big long term contract or extension. That could be the

739
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: bold move that it's not that bold. It is if

740
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. If they make Tradevious White

741
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: the top paid corner in the league, that's bold. That's

742
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: kind of bold. Um. Chris Brown is with US Bills

743
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: inside a Buffalo Bills dot com. You've got a post

744
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: up on the website this morning. Four early signs of

745
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: optimism for the twenty twenty Bills. And look we all

746
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: come across them now. We had Jeremy Fowler on last week.

747
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: He picks the Bills in Seattle in the playoffs. We got,

748
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: we got. We got a guess coming up at twelve

749
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: noon or at one o'clock today. Nate Davis from USA today,

750
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: who is very nice things to say about the Bills,

751
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: picks them to have a great season next year. You've

752
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: got signs of optimism. Can I play Devil's advocate? Sure?

753
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: These are not that critical things. It's better to get

754
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: good players if you're looking for the next step. You've

755
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: got player development. The young core that they have. These

756
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: are all true offseason decision making that's been solid stability,

757
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: returning roster, coaching staff or any of those gonna get

758
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: you from ten wins to thirteen wins next year. Well,

759
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: if you expect the young core to take a next

760
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: step and you expect the offseason decision making to continue

761
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: to be solid. Yes, those are probably the two primary ones,

762
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: because I think you're looking at Tremaine Edmonds in year three,

763
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in year three, that can get you two

764
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: more wins. And then if you have offseason decision making

765
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: continuing on the track that it's been on. I mean,

766
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: you have the potential for the twenty eighteen draft class

767
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: to be a front to back draft class that contributes.

768
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: If Vashon Joseph comes off ir from last year and

769
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: can be a top six linebacker on your roster year

770
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: and Jaquan Johnson can make a step and and and

771
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: push to be the first safety drafts yeah yeah, sorry

772
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and push to be the third safety on

773
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: this roster, or convinced the coaching staff he's your third safety.

774
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: You know you've you've got something with this with this

775
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft class. And then if they make the

776
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: right decisions upstairs as they have been the last two years, Yeah,

777
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: you can add more wins to this roster. If all

778
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: of those things. If all the things you listed keep

779
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: on keeping on, Yeah, they got to continue with it.

780
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: And we and Murph and I said this in the

781
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: first segment of the show Brownie, that they're gonna weigh

782
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: different spot now than they were two years ago or

783
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: even last year, because now it's roster maintenance plus trying

784
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: to plug in some pieces that are home runs, and

785
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: it's a much different atmosphere for the front office than

786
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: it was two years ago when they had to, you know,

787
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: get their financial house in order and then draft guys.

788
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: And I think you know we mentioned wide receiver, when

789
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: we mentioned pass rusher, those are either or scenarios. I

790
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: think the offensive line is a more complex issue because

791
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: you have a decision to make on a player in

792
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: Cody Ford in terms of where he is going to

793
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: start for you, be a tackle or guard. If he

794
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: starts at guard, that largely takes care of your guard hole.

795
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: But the fact remains that you have John Feliciano in

796
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract as your other starting guard,

797
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: and by default, with Ford moving to guard, you have

798
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Tie and Secky, the projected starter right tackle in the

799
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: last year of his contract in thirty five years of age.

800
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Or thirty four years of age. So that doesn't mean

801
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: all right, we're good. You better get some quality depth

802
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: that can play. Knowing in Secky's situation and how you know,

803
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: uncertain it was last year in terms of is he

804
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna be ready this week or can he not play?

805
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: So that has to be addressed. There has to be

806
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: a viable option there behind him if he is your starter.

807
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: So you're either drafting relatively high with someone you can

808
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: count on in year one, or you're signing an affordable

809
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: free agent. Maybe you're resigning Adrian Waddle who never got

810
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: a chance to play here last year and went on

811
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: ir rather early in the game. So there are multiple

812
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: decisions with some moving parts on this offensive line that

813
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: have to be addressed, along with when is it time

814
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: to pay Deon Dawkers? All right, we got we're gonna

815
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: get into offensive lineman. Chris is gonna stick for another segment,

816
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: our State of the Bills segment on offensive line coming up.

817
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: We'll go right down the roster and talk about what

818
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: they have, what they need. We're coming back One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalana Health from the Seneca Studio in

820
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio One goes live.

821
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: Jamber be Chris Brown is with us, with me and

822
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Steve Tansker. You gotta get through this quickly, boys. The

823
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: state of the Bills offensive line. Let's go through it.

824
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Speaker 1: Offensive line currently under contract tackles Dion Dawkins, Cody Ford,

825
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: Tye and Sky Ryan Bates vic the sulaco um. Okay,

826
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm calling Ryan Bates a tackle

827
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: strictly right. He's kind of your jack of all trades

828
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: and let me get Let's let me start with the

829
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Speaker 1: top of that list, Dion Dawkins and Cody Ford. I

830
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: think Ford belongs inside as a guard. I think I

831
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: would consider moving Dion Dawkins inside as a guard. To

832
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I really would. Yeah, I don't

833
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: see it happening, because what's your answer at left tackle.

834
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: You need to find one, you need to draft one.

835
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Speaker 1: That's a big thing to go find, I know, and

836
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: a big thing to count on. I think to get better,

837
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Speaker 1: let's talk about bold moves. That's a bold move. Yeah, yeah,

838
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: it better work? Well, sure it better word afraid of,

839
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: don't be afraid. I think I think bird in the

840
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: hand versus two in the bulls. I think they're taking

841
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: the bird in the hand there. I think they are.

842
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: I think they want to address other parts of this line,

843
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: and they might do it with people in houses. We

844
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: mentioned with Cody Ford. If they want to fill the

845
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: left guard hole with Cody Ford or the right guard hole,

846
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: whichever way you want to shuffle the deck, I think

847
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: they're more inclined to do that. I think in Dion

848
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Dawkins they feel they know what they have. Do they

849
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: feel it's good enough? Well, maybe that's another debate that

850
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: they're having up there. Who knows. I'm not ruling it out,

851
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: not saying it couldn't happen. Um, there are three to

852
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: four tackles that are expected to go in the first

853
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: round this year, and after that the drop off is

854
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: like you know the cliff in the Roadrunner Wiley Coyote cartoons,

855
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: and there's a long drop before you get to the

856
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: next viable tackle prospect. And so, believe me, the draft

857
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: class does have an impact on what teams decide to

858
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: do with the players they have in house. They really do,

859
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: along with your cap room and what's on the free

860
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: agent market. I think I'm not completely enamored with what's

861
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: on the free, free improvement in the offensive line, not

862
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: just plug in here, plug in there. I think, yeah,

863
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: get better. I not just for Josh, for Singletary, for everybody. Yeah.

864
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: I think getting more athletic guard to guard is something

865
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: that needs to happen. I think Feliciano's athletic enough. Mitch

866
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Morris is athletic. I think Quentin Spain where he was

867
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: lacking was in athleticism, and I think it was one

868
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: of the reasons this team had trouble running screenplays. So

869
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I think they want to get more athletic off guard.

870
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: And Dion Dawkins, if you don't like him a tackle,

871
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: he is athletic. The one thing you can't deny is

872
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: he is athletic. Um where does he fit best man?

873
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to make I don't

874
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: know if they want to create two holes to fill one.

875
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that they want to do that. What

876
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: do you think, mister Tasker? I agree with you they

877
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: do need to shore up the offensive linel. But we

878
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: got a little bit. I think some fans got a

879
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: little bit complacent because the offensive line was so bad

880
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: two years ago that you think, wow, we're way better now.

881
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna we got you know, we can run the

882
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: ball effectively, we can kind of pick our spots. We

883
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: can run and pass. They can do both, but I

884
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: think you do need to bolster it up. For me,

885
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: it always starts up front on both sides of the ball.

886
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: That's why I think Spain Shack Lawson and the other

887
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: UH and UH, Jordan Phillips, Jordan Phillips, those are all

888
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: key elements that you got to think about whether you

889
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: want to come back or not. But no question, you're

890
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: trying to upgrade up front on both sides of them.

891
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: I think if you want to go from good to

892
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: very good, potentially great offensive line and stay fiscally responsible

893
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: at the same time, those are two two difficult things

894
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: to do simultaneously. But I think one way you can

895
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: do it is you take Cody Forward, you make them

896
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: your left guard, You resign Adrian Waddle, you let him

897
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: platoon with Inseci at right tackle, and then if you

898
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: still feel like you want to take another swing, then

899
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: maybe yes, you draft a tackle somewhere on the first

900
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: two days of the draft, and that's probably the way

901
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: you do it in a fiscally responsible way. How do

902
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I feel pretty good about well

903
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: the first if the first and second day, and then

904
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 1: if that guys that are at the top level of tackle.

905
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna get one of those guys that

906
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: can't make your team, you know, I mean you've got

907
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: If you're gonna draft a guy and he's you draft

908
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: and offensive tackle in the second round, he's making your team.

909
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: He better be making your team. Is this draft that deep, well,

910
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd have to take a look at it.

911
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I really haven't much pass first round anyway,

912
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: said there was a couple there was a huge drop off.

913
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: So if that's that's what the draft knicks are saying,

914
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I want to take a look at it myself. I mean,

915
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people you can get in the second,

916
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: third round enough to play on your football A couple

917
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: of guys who were here last year. I just wondered

918
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: what you both feel their futures where their futures like

919
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: Ty and Secky going into the final year of a

920
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: two year deal that he signed. He just said, trouble

921
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: being healthy on a week to week basis, But there's

922
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: a role for him on this offense. There's a role

923
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: for him on this offense this year. I believe there

924
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: is Yeah, probably is a swing tackle or a platoon tackle.

925
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I kind of disagree. You got to have a guy

926
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: you can depend on. It's gonna be there. I mean

927
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: he disappeared for big stretches. Well, he had a high

928
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: ankle spring. I mean, that's gonna send it sideline anybody

929
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: for six We also had the right after he came back,

930
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: he knee, but he was he was dressed for the

931
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: last game. He came back the next week. He was

932
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: dressed a bunch of games where he was he wasn't.

933
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, just to me and and you know this too.

934
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: We're here every day. We know they're multiple weeks in

935
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: a row. He didn't take a snap in practice, So

936
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: to me, that's not a guy you can depend on. Um.

937
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: If you I'm kind of with Murph, I like Cody

938
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: Ford moving down to guard, I'm not Feliciano or the

939
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: other side to the other guard. If Spain walks, I

940
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: get it. But you can live with time with Dion

941
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: and left tackle. But you're trying to upgrade all those spots.

942
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: You're trying to get a guy draft to tackle and

943
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: see if he can eventually compete with dark yeah, or

944
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: Larder and Water plays right, good tackle, or Ryan Bates

945
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: takes a step forward. I don't know what they think

946
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: of it. That's a fiscally responsible plan that I presented.

947
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: So but I also think too, you forget when you

948
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: get close to draft, we'll all remember that. You know

949
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign all these guys in free agency, and

950
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, Okay, Now, they're at a spot where

951
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: they can take the best player available on the board

952
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: that they think is at his position. So they may

953
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: be taking a corner at twenty two, I don't know,

954
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: but they're going to take the best, the guy they

955
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: know that can step on the field play for him,

956
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: or at least has a really good shot at a

957
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: better shot than anybody else on their board. Sure, and

958
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: that's what it's going to be, whether it's a corner

959
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: or you know, or tight rush, whatever, pass rusher, defensive

960
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: tack or whatever. The guy they pick at twenty two,

961
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: if indeed they stay there and pick at twenty two,

962
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy on their board, no

963
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: matter what position they think can get on the field play. Yeah,

964
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: Because I mean, look at the last three drafts, you know, Yeah,

965
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Trey White, Josh Allen, Jermaine Edmonds, you know, and at

966
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: Oliver and at Oliver another guy I want to ask

967
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: you about upfront. Quentin Spain started every game last year. Guard.

968
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: Are you both walking away from him? You sound like

969
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: you both. I am because of the athleticism factory. That

970
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: was a great road. Greater did his job. But I

971
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: think with what this team is looking for, I think

972
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: they want guards they can get out and pull and

973
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: get out in front of people, and yeah, drive people

974
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: off the ball as well. But I think they're looking

975
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: for a little more athleticism. That's just the sense I get.

976
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: He's a free agent where they have to spend a

977
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: lot of money to keep them here. Do you think

978
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: Probably not. I think they can afford to wait, though,

979
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: Because I think they can afford to wait, seek out

980
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: options that they might deem his upgrades. You can get

981
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: good value, I think on the guard market right now.

982
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I like the Joe Hay kid from Indianapolis played right

983
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: guard for them last year. That's a good offensive line.

984
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing what his market value is if

985
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: you want to sign a free agent at guard. But

986
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: I think you're better off. I think what we have

987
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: to Remember is this is a front office and a

988
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff that puts a premium on position flexibility. So

989
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't see them going out and spending big money

990
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: on a guy that can just play guard, you know

991
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, and you already have center guard

992
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: options in Feliciano and in Spencer Long, who's a veteran backup.

993
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know that they swing big at the

994
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: guard position in free agency. Maybe if you have a

995
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: tackle who can also play guard, all right, now, that's

996
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: an investment worth making. And so maybe if in free agency,

997
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: if you do spend money, you do it at a

998
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: tackle guard, not a guard center. And the philosophy is

999
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: always get the best guys you can and then you

1000
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: put the best five on the field, no matter what

1001
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: positions they're in, whether it's right guard, left guard, right tackle,

1002
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: left tackle, center, whatever, you get the best five guys

1003
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: on the field and you expect him to be able

1004
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: to do it. And that's the versatility. And I think

1005
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates, if he continues on the track that he's on,

1006
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: is a guy that could push for the swing guard

1007
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: role next year and be the first guy off the

1008
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: bench if somebody's you know, Feliciano or if Cody Ford

1009
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: who moves to if he moves to guard, if one

1010
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: of those guys goes down, he's the first guy off

1011
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: the bench instead of perhaps Spencer Long. And don't forget

1012
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: Quinn Spain had a really great season for the Bills.

1013
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: I say great, he didn't give up a sack. He

1014
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: played extremely I think he was surprising to a lot

1015
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: of people. Musical residence. He was on the free agent

1016
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: market for two weeks before the Bills signed him. Right,

1017
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was like first day Bills went

1018
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: out got him. He was the guy they targeted. They

1019
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: let him wait for two weeks. But he is coming

1020
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: off a good season up sooner and he made a

1021
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: drive blocking type team. But yeah, but he proved a

1022
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: lot this year. We'll see to what extent stay of

1023
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: the Bills. Talking about the offensive line with Chris Brown, Chris,

1024
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: I think, um, you said it to start that segment off, Steve.

1025
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: There a team that got dramatically better on the offensive

1026
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: line from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, but there's still

1027
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I think great room for improvement up front. Right is that?

1028
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: Would you guys both agree with that? Yeah? They were

1029
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: more they were. I mean, there was nowhere to go

1030
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: but up from eighteen to nineteen, and I think they

1031
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: took a giant leap forward in their performance, but there

1032
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: were still weeks where they didn't win. Yeah, enough of

1033
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 1: the battle of the line of scrimmage, right, The question

1034
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: is were they a team that were they an offensive

1035
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: line that around the league you say, wow, that Buffalo

1036
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: offensive lines dominant? They weren't. They couldn't do much against

1037
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: that Philly defensive line, which is a pretty darn good

1038
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: That's an elite defensive line in the league. But if

1039
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: you can't beat the elite defensive lines in the league,

1040
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: you're probably not going too far in the playoffs. Right,

1041
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not against upgrading for sure. I just wonder

1042
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: how they're going to accomplish that and stay cap strong

1043
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: and fiscally responsible, as Brandon being is indicated. Okay, Chris,

1044
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: thanks watch for Chris's post on Bills dot com. Four

1045
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: early signs of optimism for the twenty twenty Bills. We'll

1046
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: talk more about this. You're going to talk with Nate

1047
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: Davis from USA today. He says the Bills are right

1048
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: behind San Francisco in terms of the teams that are

1049
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: going to end a Super Bowl drought. That's his prediction. Anyway,

1050
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: that's the sign of optimism that Chris writes about. We'll

1051
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: talk about that with Nate Davis or USA today when

1052
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: we return One Bill's Line presented by Kalada Health from

1053
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,120
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1054
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Speaker 1: Nothing comes close. HELLLLS Radio Network Sports update from One

1055
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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Some contract worked for the Bills came late yesterday.

1056
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: The Bills and defensive tackle Star Lotulae have agreed to

1057
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: a restructured contract for the remaining three years of the deal. Reportedly,

1058
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: this is according to ESPN's Field Yates. Originally, lotula had

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Speaker 1: a five year, fifteen million dollar contracts signed in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: He'll now earn a fully guaranteed bass salary of four

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Speaker 1: and a half million next year, up to one million

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Speaker 1: dollars in roster and workout bonuses. The move saves Buffalo

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Speaker 1: about five and a half million over the next three

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Speaker 1: years as its reshapes its defensive line. Around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the league has reinstated Miles Garrett to the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: two days after he met with Commissioner Roger Goodell Garrett

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Speaker 1: was suspended indefinitely after ripping the helmet off Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 1: and hitting the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback in the head back

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Speaker 1: in mid November last year. The number one overall pick

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Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen draft, Garrett had ten sacks before

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Speaker 1: the suspension. Quarterback Cam Newton said during Super Bowl Week

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Speaker 1: he absolutely will return to the Carolina Panthers in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: but the owner of the Panthers, David Tepper, is not

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Speaker 1: yet ready to make that commitment. He said, is he healthy,

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Speaker 1: I've said it a million times. Newton had Liz Frank

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00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: surgery on his left foot in early December. The team

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00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: wants to work him out next month to see where

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Speaker 1: he is with his rehab. Jaguars have added another former

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Speaker 1: head coach of their offensive staff. They hired Ben mcadoo's

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. He was fired as the Giant's head coach

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Speaker 1: late in the twenty seventeen season. He's been out of

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Speaker 1: football for the last two years, and Tonio Brown's apology

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00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: tour continued yesterday morning with an Instagram post directed a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. The former Steelers receiver, posted a picture of

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger smiling and slapping the back of his helmet and said,

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Speaker 1: I never realized how good I had it. Got caught

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Speaker 1: up by my emotion. I really apologized for my actions. Sincerely,

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Speaker 1: Sabers One. Last night, the Sabers came out on top

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Speaker 1: three two over the Detroit Red Wings. Connor Sheery, Marcus Johanson,

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Speaker 1: and Sam Reinhardt scored for Buffalo. Carter Hutton made twenty

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Speaker 1: seven saves in net Tomorrow night, Buffalo host Columbus at

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Speaker 1: key Bank Center and Blues defenseman Jay bowmies they're still

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Speaker 1: in the hospital. Suffered a cardiac episode on the bench

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Speaker 1: in last night's game for the Saint Louis Blues. And

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Speaker 1: that is the update from One Bills Live. John Murphy

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00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker taking your phone calls, talking a little

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00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: bit about the topic of the day. It's a Twitter question,

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00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: not a Twitter poll. The question is finished this sentence.

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Speaker 1: The bold move I want to see from the Bills

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Speaker 1: is what I guess I'd have to go. I think

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00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: it's a bold move to move both Cody Ford and

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins inside. But I really, and I have to say,

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00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed in Chris Brown. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: any really bold, bold moves, and I think it might

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00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: take a bold move to move up the ladder in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, Steve, I really do. I wouldn't be content

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00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: with ten wins next year. And I know the schedule

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00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: is tougher, and I know they caught some breaks this year,

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00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: but they need to take another step this year and

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him make a bold move to

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, And when you're talking about where they

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00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: need to improve, the defense was a top two, top

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00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: three defense this last year, depending on what statistics you

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Speaker 1: look at, what metrics they were hard to score on,

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00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: they were hard to move the football on, they were

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00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: solid all over the field. And so when you do that,

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00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive side of the football, and

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00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: it starts for me, like you, it starts with the

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Speaker 1: O line. If you can run it better, if you

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00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: can run when you want to run, whenever you want

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Speaker 1: to run, and be successful doing it, that's all. That's

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Speaker 1: all about your offensive line. You can say which you

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Speaker 1: want about hey need a white running back and I

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Speaker 1: get all that, but yeah, I mean that's I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, murf We I think some fans kind of

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00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: kind of got off their radar because of the lack

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00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: of success they had two years ago, and then to

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Speaker 1: see them do so well going from six to ten

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Speaker 1: and ten and six this in the two years, you

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00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: kind of forget about the offensive line, the groundwork. It's

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00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: always fun to talk about these big time wide receivers

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00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: and the pass rushers and all that stuff. It starts

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00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: and ends for me with the O line. If they

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Speaker 1: can get those guys dominant up front, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a better football team and win more

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Speaker 1: games with a tougher schedule. Bring it up, let us.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think we'll get your phone calls in a moment?

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00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty finished this sentence.

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Speaker 1: The bold move I want to see from the Bills

1141
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: is what give us a call to discuss. Got a

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: guy on the line to discuss Bills and other NFL

1143
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: issues right now. He's a sports writer for USA Today

1144
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: covers in the NFL. He's covered the league since two

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: thousand and five. Nate Davis on the line with us.

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00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: Although Nate, John Murphy and Steam Tasker here in Buffalo

1147
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: thanks coming on. Yeah, give me back with you guys. Thanks.

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00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: I didn't realize so I saw a tweet back in

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00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: mid December. You actually went to Wayne and Mary at

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00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: the same time as Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott. Did

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Speaker 1: you know those two? Did you follow those two when

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00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: they were playing for the what were they the Tribe,

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: the Tribesman, the Tribe? Yeah, yeah, No, Mike was a

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00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: year ahead of me, and I think Sean was yere

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00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: behind me, and they were both on the team, and

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: I was working in the sports information office. You know,

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00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: I was a one hundred eighty pounds left tackle in

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00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: high school, so there was no place for me on

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00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: that team. But but yeah, yeah, I knew, Um, I

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00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: knew of them. I had talked to both of them.

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know them as well some of the other players.

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00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, Sean was you know, I've been telling people

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00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: on that story. I mean you you'd walked into I

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: was an RTC guy too. I spent my first four

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: years after college in the Army, So I would be

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: at breakfast in the morning around sexisode or seven am. Uh,

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00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: and then you would always know if Sean wasn't there too.

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00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: Probably after a morning left or whatever, and usually by

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00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: himself and you can tell he just had a good

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00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: sweat and good workout or whatever. And um, you know,

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00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: he was an eighteen year old kid, you know, super intense,

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00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: super dedicated, um, you know, super smart even then. So

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Speaker 1: his his success has not surprised me. Uh, and Mike

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00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: Hast neither. I don't think anyone, you know, maybe maybe

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: forecast Mike would take coaching around per se coming out

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Speaker 1: of college. Not not because I mean I think his

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: mom actually wanted him to be a lawyer. And I

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00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: talked to you know, the head coach a couple weeks

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00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: ago about the story, and you know, we kind of

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: thought Michael was heading to law school or something. But

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00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: of course he picked them out, he did. Uh and uh,

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00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, not to get too far, I feel this

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00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: William or everything. But now Joe Joe Brady. You know,

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00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: the the LSU was with Joe Burrow and now the

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with Panthers, another women, Marry Mary. Guys, so

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: we are the coaching cradle. You said, you know, it's

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: the week before the Bills played the Steelers in mid December.

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00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: I guess it was. We talked with the coach Jimmy Lacock,

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: who you talked to, and he was he went to

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Speaker 1: that game first time he's ever seen any of his

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00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: old players coach against each other. It's pretty cool story. Yeah, well, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: this is this is Jimmy's first h It was Jimmy's

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Speaker 1: first fall, if you will, twenty nineteen of retirement. I mean,

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: why don't He'd been on the job, will even married

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00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: a coach for thirty nine years previously, But it was

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: it was kind of the first time he's really had

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: an opportunity, uh to do that, and you know, remains

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00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: very close to a lot of guys. And I talked

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Speaker 1: to someone Sean and Mike's former teammates for the piece.

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00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it took definitely the comments threat there that

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy states is touch with quite a few of his

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00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: players were well beyond high profile guys like like Sean

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00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: and Mike. But yeah, he was very excited and told

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00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: me he was he was for Tie that night. So

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00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: obviously kme came out better for Bill fan, but yeah,

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: that's pretty neat for him. Yeah, I was. I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask you too. You had some nice things

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: to say about the Buffalo Bills and what you see

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Speaker 1: in the what they've built here over the last three years.

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00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: Stability is one of the things that has been for

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00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: teams that struggle to get the playoffs Toabilly is one

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: of the things they struggle to get. Now, the Bills

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00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: seem to be right in the in the wheelhouse of that.

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00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: How do you think that what do they have to

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00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: do going forward to maybe be one of those teams

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00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: that represents the conference in the Super Bowl? Yeah? I

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00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: think well, I think you'd like to to see him

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: maybe get one or two more playmakers there on office

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: to help out Josh Allen, those guys. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I and I think I try not to be biased,

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00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: but knowing Sean, you know, I am, I am. I

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00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: have admired the way they built this team, you know,

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00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Sean a man, Brandon bean Uh and the fact that

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00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: they've drafted well and that they've been you know, I

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00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: want to stay selective and free agency kind of getting

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00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: guys like like maybe Cole Beasley and Mitch Morris and

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: those kind of guys that aren't necessarily the top tier.

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: You wander now with that you know, eighty million plus

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00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: the cap space that they're due to have, do they

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00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: try to lure more more high profile guy. You know,

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00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: obviously Greg Olsen's a guy that they're they're talking to

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: about about bringing there. But um again, I like to

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Speaker 1: focus on the foundation and the focus on the culture

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00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: of the focus on continuity, because I think those are all,

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, underrated aspects in the NFL. And then we

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00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: get sometimes a little um you know, distracted or effatuated

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: with with the high profile draft pick or the high

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: profile free agent. But um, I really admire the slow bill.

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: The Bills are done here, and I think that they're

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00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: definitely a position to maybe you know, move into an

1241
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: AFC's power vacuum. If it's Patriots too, indeed, you know,

1242
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: go go over the cliff here soon. I've with Nate Davis,

1243
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: sportswriter for USA Today covers the NFL. You've written a

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: piece talking about which teams are in line to break

1245
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl drout. Yeah. Have the San Francisco forty

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: nine ers the number one candidate to break a Super

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: Bowl drout and then the Bills are number two. You

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00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: expect big things from the Bills this year? Huh? I

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00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: think so? I mean, I you know, I thought I

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00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: Suppo a lot of things winning right for them. A

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, when in the playoffs, obviously a

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01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: big you know, Andy Dalton beating Ravens, whichever one in

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo remembers, I thought, I thought this year might might

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01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: be kind of closer to eight and eight, nine and seven, um,

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01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: and it was better than that. Uh. And I think

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: I think the arrow is pointing up for this team.

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01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 1: You know, like hopefully you hope to see Josh Allen

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01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: continue to develop as a passer. I mean, he's obviously

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of become Cam Newton as a running quarterback, but again,

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean you want to see him improve. I mean,

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01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: he still makes some decisions I think, or a little

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: bit head scratching, but I'd like to see kind of

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: one more I don't know if you guys think, but

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01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: I think kind of a nice six foot three, kind

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01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: of two hundred and twenty pound receiver might be the

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: perfect compliment to John Brown and Cole Beasley in that offense.

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to see him get one more weapon.

1268
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: You kind of hope the Devin Singletary takes the next

1269
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: step next year, and you know the defense is gonna

1270
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: be good. So I think I think the outlook for

1271
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: this team should be solid for twenty twenty. Yeah, when

1272
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: you say that about the wide receiver six three two twenty, guy,

1273
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: you're joining the chorus of thousands of Bills fans we

1274
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: talked to in a week to week basis, and uh,

1275
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: we've also we're entrenched in all things Bills. We're talking

1276
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: a little bit ago about the Bill's offensive line. It

1277
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: was so bad in two thousand eighteen. Um, the way

1278
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: it played in two thou nineteen was better. But to

1279
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: be dominant, they need to do a couple more things

1280
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: as well. And you talk about what's available in this draft,

1281
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: I certainly it's a wide receiver deep draft. There's some

1282
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: tackles that are good in this draft. What are your

1283
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: thoughts about guys up front for a team who's looking

1284
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: just maybe to get a guy who can step right

1285
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: on the field. Well, I mean there are there are

1286
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: a good amount of tackles I think in this draft too,

1287
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: And you know those are those are hard guys to

1288
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: find sometimes and I think, you know, I think the

1289
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: last of my craft I did, I had maybe three

1290
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: coming off the board in the top top eleven or

1291
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: top twelve, um, And you know, I would be the

1292
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: interesting thing Uh, for the Bills, they pick a twenty two.

1293
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, in the wide receiver discussion, I think I

1294
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: had to be taking Tea Eggins out of Clemson a

1295
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: twenty two. But um, you know that that's kind of

1296
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: the rub I mean, Doude. Do they try to go

1297
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: up and target a guy obviously took Cody Ford last year? Um?

1298
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that the kind of player, you know,

1299
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: if you're looking to further fortify that line, it's going

1300
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: to be there that you wanted twenty two. Uh. And

1301
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: it's this is a draft that you know, we're kind

1302
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: of thinking it's going to be full of a lot

1303
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: of receiver options. Maybe you can get a guy uh

1304
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: that's you know, nearly as good in round two or

1305
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: around three. So um, you know, Brandon and Sean are

1306
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: going to have to kind of kind of weigh their

1307
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: options on that. Do they want to go up to

1308
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: maybe you know, nine or eight or something and try

1309
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: to get a Thomas or Wills or one of those guys? Um?

1310
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Or do they do they let the board come to them,

1311
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: so we'll see what they choose to do it. Does

1312
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: it seem like they builds or trteam that usually you

1313
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: know reaches. So with Nate Davis, sports writer covers the

1314
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: NFL for USA Today, you do have them metch up

1315
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: with T Higgins in your mock draft so far anyway,

1316
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: and most it seems like mostly you look at T.

1317
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: Higgins is sort of a counterpoint to Cole Beasley and

1318
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: John Brown, just a different type, different size receiver. Maybe

1319
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: that's a good fit for Buffalo. Huh, Well, we talked

1320
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: about earlier. You know, Higgins is that six four six

1321
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: four two fifteen, So he's kind of exactly what you're

1322
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: talking about in terms of of the uh, the bigger guy.

1323
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes Jock Allen is the most accurate thrower,

1324
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: So I think it helps to have a guy out

1325
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: there that's got a beer catch radius. I mean, maybe

1326
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: a race is some of those quote unquote mistake throws

1327
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: or arrant throws and maybe maybe saved saves you there.

1328
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: But kind of with that that part of the board,

1329
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think Higgins, you know, he's got he's

1330
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: got very good upside. And I think most people are

1331
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: looking at Jerry's Uti and ceedee Lamb. It's kind of

1332
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: one and one A in terms of receivers in this draft.

1333
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: But you know, Higgins, it might be the one if

1334
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: it's seemed better. We'll see. Yeah, it'll be interesting to

1335
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: see where they go in and there. And even if

1336
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: the Bills stay at twenty two or go later in

1337
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: the draft, there's gonna be some good wide receivers still

1338
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: on the board. Is that draft? Is this draft deep

1339
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: in in anything other than wide receivers? Well, yeah, I

1340
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: think I think it's fairly he uh in running backs.

1341
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, a kid from from Ohio State, Taylor from

1342
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. You know, they're they're I think quality guys

1343
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: that you could probably get in round two or around three.

1344
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: I think DeAndre Swift is probably the guy you're looking

1345
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: at going around one. But I mean that's kind of

1346
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: been you know, the sort of opposition recently is that

1347
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: nobody wants to over invest really in running back. So

1348
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: I think you're probably gonna see the same thing this year.

1349
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: You maybe see one or two go on the first night,

1350
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: but um, you could certainly get depth there. And you know,

1351
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: if you don't want Devin Singletary to be shouldering the

1352
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: loaded by himself, and I would expect, you know, the

1353
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: Bills would like to have you know, a little bit

1354
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: of of a rotation back there that I think you

1355
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: can probably get a really good one of those on

1356
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: Friday or even Nay Davis is their guests. Hey Ny,

1357
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: you wrote recently on USA Today in the last couple

1358
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: of days about options for a landing spot for Philip Rivers.

1359
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: What do you see there? Where's he gonna wind up?

1360
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: Is it? I mean we were talking about the Colts.

1361
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Is a logical place You've got them in your list

1362
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: of what have a dozen place where he could fit in?

1363
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: I guess huh. I think the three to really look at,

1364
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Colts you mentioned or one, and I

1365
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: think the obvious connection there is that, you know, Frank

1366
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: Reich coach of Philip and San Diego from twenty thirteen

1367
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, you know, when it was still San Diego.

1368
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: So so those guys have have an immediate bond, uh.

1369
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: And so that's one to look at. And also a

1370
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: place where you know it's not California, but you've got

1371
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: perfect passing conditions in there, and you've got an offensive

1372
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: line that's very good, which Philip has not had the

1373
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: benefit of, you know, certainly last year. Uh with LA.

1374
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: The other two teams to me that are that are

1375
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: kind of intriguing. Are are the Buccaneers? Uh? Number one

1376
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: being because you know, Phillips moved his family to Florida,

1377
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: and obviously that's that's a huge priority with with the

1378
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: nine kids. Uh and Bruce Arians you know, is a

1379
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: guy that's done well with veteran quarterbacks and he's certainly

1380
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: is sending the signals that he's not committed to bringing

1381
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: James Jameis Winston back this year. So I think I

1382
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: think you look at that, um and certainly with Godwin

1383
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: and Evans two great receivers for Philip's row too. And

1384
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: then last week Tennessee, Um, you know they're going to

1385
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: have probably gonna have a decision to make here soon

1386
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: or whether they want to tag Derreck Henry or Ryan Tannehill.

1387
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: And if it turns out that they go with Henry,

1388
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: which I think is probably the direction you would think

1389
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: that they would go after after everything he did last season.

1390
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: Of course tanneh Hill is great too, but um, it's

1391
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: a tag Henry. You know they might be looking for

1392
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback because that tanne Hill is a free agent,

1393
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: even Marcus Mario was a free agent. Although obviously you

1394
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: think they're riding on the wall for him. But for

1395
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: a team that sell one game shore of the Super Bowl,

1396
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: h you know, if you want to bring in a

1397
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: veteran and then maybe you trapped the young guy to

1398
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: develop behind him. If Tanne Hill gills elsewhere, I think

1399
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: that that would be a pretty pretty good option for

1400
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers to. Yeah, there's a bunch of other quarterbacks,

1401
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: most notably, of course, Drew Brees and Tom Brady. There's

1402
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: a lot of For the first time really in a

1403
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: long time, you've got some real guys with some some

1404
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: pelts on the wall. I guess you'd say that are

1405
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: they're available or could be. And certainly Drew Brees has

1406
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: made it clear he doesn't want to leave New in

1407
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: New Orleans, and if he does, he's not gonna play.

1408
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: But Tom Brady there's a little bit more intrigue there.

1409
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: How do you see that playing? Its hard for me

1410
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: to see him going anywhere, but but in New England.

1411
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he at least

1412
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: drags us out and shops and maybe talks to some Chargers. Uh,

1413
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, the California connection with them, and it's certainly

1414
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: a good team and you can see the Chargers wanting

1415
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: to you know, a team that that's really struggled to

1416
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: get a foothold in LA market. You know, if you're

1417
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: moving into a new stadium and you need a gay attraction,

1418
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: um and you got a good team mine as your

1419
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: question quarterbacks, certainly you'd have to take a look at

1420
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady for that because I think he might be

1421
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: willing to at least dance with you. And we've kind

1422
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: of heard about about the Raiders possibly making a run

1423
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: at him. But um, yeah, I think at the end

1424
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, when when when Tom, you know,

1425
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm sure tom My guest is Tom is

1426
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: going to do a due diligence kind of see what's

1427
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: out there. But I think when all of a sudden done,

1428
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: you kind of have to wonder if he's gonna he's

1429
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna think, you know, maybe maybe the grass isn't greener.

1430
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: And at least I've I've taken the opportunity to go

1431
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: to go check out some of the yards. Needst I'm sorry. Need.

1432
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to ask you about us

1433
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: the draft, And at the top of the draft we

1434
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: talked about downward Buffalo is twenty two. At the top

1435
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: you're pretty much going with a chalk. How do you

1436
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: think the Bengals are gonna go with Joe Burrow number

1437
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: one pick overall? Well, it's early. I mean that that

1438
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: was my first mock draft, and I think he's kind

1439
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: of the logical pick. You know, they've been Sandy Dalton

1440
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: last year. I think he got one year left on

1441
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: his contract, So there there's a good case for Burrow

1442
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: on merit obviously the great season you know from Ohio.

1443
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting. You know, the two things

1444
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta been looking up to the side

1445
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: or three things. I mean, they're at the one assess

1446
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: Burrow two is two attacked by the better player, and

1447
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: will he be healthy enough? And you know he's Are

1448
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: you better off taking a player maybe with more upside

1449
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: knowing that he can sit behind Andy Dalton for a

1450
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: year since you've still got Dalton's rights for twenty twenty

1451
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: And then you know, most people think that Chase Young

1452
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: and the old House State defensive end, it's probably the

1453
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: best player. So you just stick with Andy Dalton or

1454
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: maybe draft a different guy to room for later and

1455
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: put Chase Young on your on your your pass rush.

1456
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: You know, von von Miller won Super Bowl too, so

1457
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: there's a case to be amazing. You could do this

1458
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: other way. Do you do you see any teams that

1459
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: are kind of wild cards in the top five, six

1460
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: ten picks of the draft? Any teams that you see

1461
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: could you know, make a big move to get out

1462
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: of or other teams that would make a move big

1463
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: move to get into the top five or ten. I mean,

1464
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean to me right now, I mean at this point,

1465
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: obviously we're two weeks away from the combine. Still, I

1466
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: think you had to say, you know, on February twelfth,

1467
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: and remember we are then the draft kind of starts

1468
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: at number three with the Lions, and do they take

1469
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: best player there? Um? You know, would they possibly look

1470
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: at the twa and say, hey, you know, Matt Staffords

1471
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: only got a couple of years left. Or do they

1472
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: trade out of there and then try to create kind

1473
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: of a bitting war at number three maybe four of

1474
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: the team that kind of wants to move up for two.

1475
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all kind of got his slotted I

1476
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Speaker 1: think right now to the to the Golfins at five,

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Speaker 1: but um, you know, do the Chargers want to move

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Speaker 1: up there from six and try to get them. So

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's kind of the at this

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Speaker 1: point in time. I think the Lions number three are

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Speaker 1: kind of your flex point. Good stuff. Hey, Nate, thanks

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: coming on with us. We appreciate it, all right. Thanks.

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: Nate Davis cover the NFL since two thousand and five.

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01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: USA Today sportswriter covers the NFL for them for USA Today.

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: Got the Bills as one of his uh his second

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Speaker 1: team to end a Super Bowl drought next year. So

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Speaker 1: many positive vibe about so much positive publicity about the

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Speaker 1: Bills in the what first month of the offseason. I

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Speaker 1: hate that. Well, I'm not used to it, that's for sure.

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01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: We're getting I'm getting used to it. I'm not. And

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Speaker 1: you kind of look, you look, And that's why I

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: asked them right off the bat, what do you see there?

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: And look, you guys have jobs to do and colin

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: inches to fill and time to fill and they need

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01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: to say something. But I get it why people would

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: look at the Bills. They made a four game improvement

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Speaker 1: for win improvement from a year ago. They're mostly a

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: young team, but there's just a lot of questions about

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: this Bills team that need to be answered, and many

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01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: of them are going to be answering the next five

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Speaker 1: six weeks or Yeah. And they forget too that the

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01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: Bills played one of the easiest schedules, as it turns

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: out in the NFL. Didn't We didn't know that at

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01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: the time, but certainly it turned out that way. And

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: now they're that doesn't look that way at all. They've

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Speaker 1: got to go through the NFC in the AFC West

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Speaker 1: next year along with Pittsburgh, and that's a tough road

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01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. That's a tough road to hoe. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that looks like a much more difficult schedule than

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Speaker 1: this year has turned out to be. And and you know,

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: you got to think that's gonna take its toll on

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Speaker 1: this team. And it's win loss record, so you do

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: have to get better, and you may have to get

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01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: better just to win the same amount of games you

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01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: won last year. Yeah, So, but not that that notwithstanding,

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01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: certainly the Bills did a lot of good things to

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: get to where they're at at this point in history.

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Speaker 1: And and if that continues, it's going to be a

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01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch this team take shape in

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: the in the summer, in the early fall. We are

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Speaker 1: asking you to finish this sentence. The bold move I

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01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: want to see from the bills is what what bold

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: move do you want to see? Finish the sentence? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call. We got phone lines wide open. We

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Speaker 1: got time to do it in just a minute here

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Speaker 1: a call on that. Anything else in the NFL got

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Speaker 1: an open segment coming up with your turn for phone calls.

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Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker brand new grandparents from last week. How's

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Speaker 1: that calling? Everybody good? Everybody happy? Everybody so far so good,

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Speaker 1: good good. It's great being grandparent. Yeah, it is kind

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Speaker 1: of well. Got one. Steve's got five now four now

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Speaker 1: two to come. Yeah. Two more on the way. Granddad, Yeah, Pappy, Grandpa,

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Speaker 1: Grandpa Steve Tasker, Grandpa Steve Tasker. We put that up

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Speaker 1: on the Wall of Fame right next to your name. No,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't. Yeah, with the number of grandkids, I have

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Speaker 1: to sit in my jersey number. Well, maybe look at

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Speaker 1: each other people. Get the eighty nine. Now, let's love

1545
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: to get your phone calls on this topic of the day.

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01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: The bold finish the sentence, Come on the bold move

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 1: I want to see the Bills make? Is what bold

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: move in this offseason they are and the first steps

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: of the offseason. They just redid the contract for Starlotulalay

1550
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: ready to make some moves. What do you think? What's

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: the bold move you want to see the Bills finish

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: off this year? Eighth three fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Got some more

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Speaker 1: tweet sheets? More tweets on the tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Take it away, Stevie. What do you got

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Speaker 1: on your tweet sheet there? Broddie Nikki says sign Amari Cooper.

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: He's talented, yo old and could provide us with a

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: physical wide receiver. He'd be expensive, but we'd have a

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01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: ton of We have a ton of cap space, and

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: with our wide receiver problem addressed, we could use the

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01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: early part of the draft to fill our other needs

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: so we don't need to sign another big name free agents.

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: That's a bold move. He'd be an expensive player. He's

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: a good player. I don't I don't know if I

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: see it, but I understand it. What do you think. Yeah,

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,440
Speaker 1: he's a good player, and he's theoretically going to be available,

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: So if he is, you can certainly bet that the

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01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: Bills are going to ask about him. But there's probably

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: a number they've got in mind for that position, and

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: given their history, they won't budge. Here's a tweet sent

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Speaker 1: in from Jack sign Or trading for a marquee pass rusher.

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: I do not want to trade our first, but I

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: do it for a second or a third and spend

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: the money in free agency. They need to get a

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01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: guy opposite Jerry Hughes to get after quarterbacks in the

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: passing league. Gets your quarterback, the next most important guy

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01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: who sacks the quarterback in the passing league, get your quarterback,

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 1: and then the next posting guy who sacks the quarterback. Okay,

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01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty good defense last year. I don't know if

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01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: that would be the move that I would make. But okay, okay, yeah,

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean we've had this debate, I'm going since last offseason.

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: Where is it more important to have coverage in the

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: back end or pass rushers? I mean they're both important, question,

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: but most a lot of teams in the Bills one

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: of them for a long, big stretch of this last season,

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: and they didn't have very many sacks, but they had

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: really good coverage in the back end of their defense

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01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: and they were a really good defense. So you can

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: make the case that if you, you know, they might

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01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: draft another corner instead of another get another pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: But be that as it made. That wouldn't be a

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01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: bold move with it. Okay, No, I don't know drafting

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: a corner would be a bold move. Well, I don't

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: know would it, wouldn't it? You know, I hate to

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01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: sound I hate to repeat the old saw, but you

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01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: really can never have enough good corners. Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't have too many. So maybe that'll be the guy.

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Speaker 1: All right? One way from Bill's dynasty, spend money on

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Speaker 1: offensive weapons. We need to finally get aggressive. While we

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01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: have Josh Allen on a rookie contract. It's time for

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: it to go for it. Eagles, Rams, and Chiefs were

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: all aggressive while their quarterback was on a rookie deal.

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: All three made it to the super Bowl and two

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01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: of them won it. The interesting and it's an interesting

1606
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: observation is true teams are having success with their quarter

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: back who's on their rookie deal, and you go over

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: to another team that won a super Bowl with their

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: quarterback on a rookie deal, Russell Wilson. Now that they've

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: evolved into this other team, there's still a competitor, still

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: kind of in the conversation for getting to the super

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01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: Bowl every year. But they haven't gone back since he

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: signed his big deal. They're not doing it that way.

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Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to put the Eagles in that group. I

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: get it they did it, but Carson Wentz was not

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: their quarterback in the super Bowl right right, or the

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01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: playoff run. But I get it. I understand that, Hey,

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't having an MVP. He was having an MVP

1619
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: type season before he was injured. A caller on the

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: line says essentially the same thing, And I like this topic.

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: Walt in Rochester, Go ahead, Walt, you're on the air. Yeah,

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: So I think in order to be bold, I think

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: they have to act like the next two years it's

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or bust, so to say, like, you know,

1625
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: not to spend so they're not in trouble and years

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01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: to come. I just feel like now it's the time

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01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: to strike. Their offense has been together for three years,

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: the defense has you know, the coaching staff, everything is

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 1: right there. I think they need to be bold and

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 1: free agency and spend more than they have to if it,

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, if it comes down to it, because I

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: don't think they're as far away as people think. I

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: think with it, maybe two new additions to the offense

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01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: and defense, whether it's draft or free agency, I think

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: they could they could make a run for it. What

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: do you guys think, Well, I kind of agree with

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Speaker 1: you all, but I don't think they need to mortgage

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Speaker 1: the future to do that. I think they've done it

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01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: without doing that so far, and there's no reason I

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01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: think they can't continue to do that going into the future.

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01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: Certainly when you get into the into the playoffs like

1642
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: the Bills did, it comes let's face of the Bills

1643
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: were good enough to win the first game they played.

1644
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 1: They didn't, no question, and the guy makes a phenomenal

1645
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: play to get out of that sad or whatever however

1646
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: you want to play. We went down the list of

1647
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: twenty plays. If they'd gone differently, the game's different. So

1648
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: once you get into the playoffs, you know, you gotta

1649
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: feel like you're good enough to win it if you

1650
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: can get it together. So I don't think you need

1651
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: to overhaul or do anything outside of what you have

1652
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: done to get yourself into that conversation. Certainly need to

1653
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: do some things better than you've been able to, but

1654
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you need to go off the rails

1655
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: and overspend or put yourself into you know, make a

1656
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: big move, because what happens is a lot of times

1657
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: those big moves are okay for a minute, but they're

1658
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: the next minute they're not, and then you're caught, and

1659
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: then you got to go backwards again to start crying

1660
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: to get forward. I don't think this organization is ready

1661
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: to do that. So I think I like what Walt

1662
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: saying though, And look, I think this is what we

1663
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: talked about in the first segment of the show, the

1664
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: fine line that the Bill's decision makers walk this offseason.

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01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: We know they want to be good and sustain that

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01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: success for a while. They don't want to mortgage the future.

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01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: They want to have draft picks. They don't want CAF issues.

1668
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: But there's a Super Bowl window and it usually falls

1669
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks, a rookie contract. Just a couple of

1670
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: years left for that, for Josh Allen, if you're not

1671
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: going to do it, now, what are you waiting for?

1672
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: What are you gonna wait till Tom Brady's out? No,

1673
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: you can't wait for that. We'll wait until things clear

1674
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: up around the league. No, you can't do that. I

1675
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: just think they need there needs to be a sense

1676
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: of urgency, and as I tried to say when Brownie

1677
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: was here, an urgency to get better, not break the bank,

1678
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: not you know, break your cap situation. But they have

1679
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: to have a sense of urgency, at least a little

1680
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: bit of a sense of urgency to make moves that

1681
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: are going to take them to the next level, to

1682
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: get more than ten wins, to get twelve wins, thirteen wins,

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Speaker 1: to go deep in the playoffs. They have to. They

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01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: have to be bold, is what I think. That's what

1685
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: Walt saying, and I agree with it. Well, yeah, okay,

1686
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: I think they were bold enough when they when they

1687
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: jettison contracts that they weren't doing, weren't getting any perfect

1688
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: production perfectly two years ago. I don't think you need to. Certainly,

1689
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing too, I don't think you're gonna do

1690
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: it in a year where you're not pretty close to

1691
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: the cap. I don't think you can go into this

1692
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: offseason or this next regular season and be sixty five

1693
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: million bucks under the cap and have enough talent on

1694
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: this roster to win unless you hit some home runs

1695
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: unexpectedly in the draft. With that kind of thing, I you,

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01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: you don't do it when you're not right up against

1697
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: the cap. So I think they've got to have enough talent.

1698
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: They've got to spend what their cap allows them to spend,

1699
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: either in the draft and free agency. But they've got

1700
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 1: to find and those guys they get have to contribute,

1701
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: meaning some guys that were here and did a nice

1702
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: job for the team last year that just aren't good

1703
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: enough this year. That's what I think. I don't think

1704
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: you need to go out and trade the farmer do that,

1705
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: but I do think you need to get some guys

1706
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: and replace some guys that are good but not good

1707
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: enough to get some great guys that are great on

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01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: this roster, but I don't think they need to I

1709
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: don't think it need to be bold to get it done.

1710
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: But if they can be in, I don't think they'll

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01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: hesitate to do it. Call here from Dan and Erie, Pennsylvania.

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dan, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Obviously,

1713
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to resign Shack Lawson, and I think

1714
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: a bold move would be to maybe sign them Marii

1715
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: Cooker or maybe if you need move up a couple

1716
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: of spots in the exact you get to talk wide receiver,

1717
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: but to one thing. And I know a lot of

1718
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: Steve would disagree with me, but I think a lot

1719
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: of other bill Spans would agree with me. A new

1720
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: offense should coordinator I would disagree with that too. Who

1721
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: are you gonna get somebody that doesn't go conservative in

1722
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: the second half of the game and then just play

1723
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: not to lose, but to keep keep your foot on

1724
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: the pedal. Yeah, I disagree. What do you think, Steve?

1725
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: I disagree? He knew i'd disagree. I don't have to

1726
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: say here. I got you, Dan, I understand, And I

1727
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 1: know everybody has their opinions about play calls and all that,

1728
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: and let's face it, it sounds like and I'm sure

1729
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: you'll agree with me here, Dan, it sounds like the

1730
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: funnest part of football of all time. You get to

1731
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: call the plays. But there's nothing more difficult, I think

1732
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: than calling plays in the NFL, both on offense and

1733
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: a defense. It's a huge responsibility. You gotta be good

1734
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: at it, and I because not only if you're good

1735
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: at it, you're still going to take criticism. If you're

1736
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: bad at it, you're gonna get fired. So um, it's

1737
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: a it's a hard job to do. It's one that

1738
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: everybody thinks they can do and should be able to do.

1739
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: But it's not as easy as to look. So everybody's

1740
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: gonna disagree or agree on play calling, whether it's too

1741
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: conservative or not good enough or not creative enough, whatever.

1742
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: So I'm you can say whatever you want about the

1743
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: offensive Cordner, I don't know this. They're not getting rid

1744
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: of Brian Dable. Thanks for calling. Let's go to Rocco

1745
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, New York. Helo Rocco, Hi, guys, thanks for

1746
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: taking my call. First off, I just want to say

1747
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: Murph tasker and loved the show. But Tasker, I am

1748
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: all for you making the Hall of Fame. All right, thanks, thanks, Rocker,

1749
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. What else you gonna be? But you're

1750
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: dead wrong. That's what I thought he was gonna say.

1751
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: You're covering up waiting for the punch. Go ahead, Rocko.

1752
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I grew up at you know,

1753
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: my my prime time with the Bills, you know, eighties, nineties.

1754
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: There ain't nobody who paid the position better than Steve Tasker,

1755
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: period of the story. I appreciate it. Reason might call, though,

1756
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: reason might call the bold move that I want to

1757
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: see the Bills make, and people disagree, whatever the case

1758
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: may be. I would love to see them get out

1759
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: of their position, move up to number two, give up

1760
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: their first, maybe a third, and maybe even a second

1761
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: for next year, and take Chase Young. Wow, he's that good. Listen,

1762
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: this guy's a stud. Yeah, I agree. I think he's

1763
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. If you get him

1764
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: at number two, you're getting the best player in the

1765
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: draft in any position. I think. I agree with you,

1766
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 1: bold move. Make that move for this year's one, this

1767
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 1: year's two, and the three next year. No, next year's one, right, Roco,

1768
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: and this year's you'd flip this year and next year's two.

1769
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: Oh well, you wouldn't be able to get there giving

1770
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: that up. So you give up next year's two and

1771
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: a third round here this year to move up twenty

1772
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: one spaces? What planet are you living on, Rocco? Is

1773
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: that what you're saying? No? No, no, no, I'm sorry.

1774
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: Did we give up our Obviously we give up our one,

1775
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: and then we give up a second round this year? Okay,

1776
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: so the team gets a one or two and then

1777
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: next year either a two or three. You wouldn't you?

1778
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: No way, you move up? Yeah, that's not that's not enough.

1779
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's enough next year's What about this?

1780
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: What if you gave up this year's one and number

1781
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: two and next year's number one? Would you do it then? Right? Yeah? Okay, okay,

1782
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: that's a bold move. Rocko changer. He's a game changer anyway.

1783
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: All right, all right, don't wait a minute, Roco, wait

1784
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: a minute. Wait we're still air, Yeah, I'm still here.

1785
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: All right? What if you gave up this year's one,

1786
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: this year's two, next year's one, and next year's two. Honestly, okay,

1787
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: all right, that's good because that's you know, that's what

1788
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: kind of you're talking about. You're talking about a steep

1789
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: price to get from number twenty two in this draft

1790
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: up to number two in this draft. It's gonna take,

1791
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt. Do you want to win now or

1792
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: do you want to win in four years? Yeah? And

1793
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: and yeah, and you know and I get it. We're

1794
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: all hypothetical here. Um you want to win now and

1795
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: in four years. I mean that's the truth of the matter. Um,

1796
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: So I get it. That's a big that's that's a

1797
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: bold move. Good for you, Thanks Rocco. I'm gonna get

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01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: some more calls up when we return. It's one Bill's Live,

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01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: presented by a Lot of Health from the Seneca Studio

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01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hey, coming up

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01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: at two o'clock today, we are gonna be talking with

1802
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Greg mclbary. Remember him, former Alabama quarterback drafted by the Jets.

1803
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: Played a little bit there, but now he's making his

1804
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: mark as a broadcaster. He's a color analysts on some

1805
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: XFL football this past weekend, and he's got some thoughts

1806
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: on that and some thoughts on the upcoming draft. He

1807
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: does college football and series second time an ESPN Greg

1808
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: McElroy coming up at two o'clock. He in the meantime

1809
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: our Twitter question today for finish this sentence. The bold

1810
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: move I wanted to see the Bills make is what

1811
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: what do you think? Eighth three fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty David Florida, Hello, Dave,

1813
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, Yeah, how you doing? Guys? Great?

1814
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: I listen. This is maybe not bold, but I would

1815
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: like to see someone alla Bubba Bratch. Today's a fullback,

1816
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: a fullback that can block and a fullback tick lead

1817
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: to sweep and a fullback tick can protect our quarterback. Interesting,

1818
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: you'd like to see the entire league go back to

1819
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. It's a different league. Now they're starting

1820
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: to Yeah, they're starting to make it. They're making a

1821
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a comeback. We've got Pat DeMarco on

1822
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: our team. And of course the San Francisco forty nine

1823
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: ers in the Super Bowl had you use check on

1824
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: their squad as well. So some teams find a use

1825
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: for them. Ten teams have fullbacks. Now maybe I don't know,

1826
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: I think maybe eight. I'm sorry, what did you say, Dave?

1827
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: I said, why not? Why not they run the capacit

1828
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: protecting up Josh Allen out Lee sweep for singletary. Yeah,

1829
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'll tell you one problem, Dave. And

1830
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but there

1831
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: aren't that many guys like that around to colleges don't

1832
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: use them very much. They're all spread out wide formations.

1833
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: You don't have kids coming up through the college ranks

1834
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: playing fullback. You could probably carve a guy out if

1835
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: you could find them, but you're teaching, just like drafting

1836
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: a guy or bringing a guy in to teach him

1837
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: a new position. That's kind of a dicey proposition at

1838
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: this level. I see your point. If you got a

1839
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: good one, you could use them in different ways and

1840
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: it gives you some creative license. But those they're hard

1841
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: to find and they don't really exist because nobody's feeding

1842
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: you at fullbacks, you know, from this college ranks. This morning,

1843
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, former Bills receiver, really good Yeah, analysts for

1844
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: NFL work. He wrote a post that went up last Friday.

1845
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: It was about quarterbacks, but he also had a segment

1846
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: in there. Did you read that? It's really you should

1847
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: read it segment in there about wingbacks, not fullbacks. Wingbacks

1848
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 1: are kind of a wave of the future in smart

1849
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: cutting NFL offenses. Wingbacks make a difference. Guys who can

1850
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: go out and get pass these guys who can run

1851
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: the football, guys who are pass protectors a little bit smaller,

1852
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: I guess in a fullback. I just think that might

1853
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: be the direction the league is going, as opposed to

1854
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: a Bubba Brackson type who was a great fullback. But

1855
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 1: this forty five years ago. It was a long time ago.

1856
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: Forty year Yah, the game is different than it was,

1857
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: But there's also nothing new under the sun either, you know.

1858
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of smart guys coaching

1859
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: football for a lot of years now. One thing, one

1860
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: reason you're seeing things changed the way they are now

1861
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: is because the game has changed, not because there are

1862
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: smarter guys now or better ways of doing things the

1863
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: game because of the rule changes in the opening up

1864
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: of it has made it possible to keep guys on

1865
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: your roster that you couldn't do before, or some allows

1866
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: you to do some things with your offense and your

1867
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: defenses that weren't legal before, or made things possible that

1868
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: we're unsafe or unreliable before and the you know, when

1869
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: the officiating and the rules changed to a certain point,

1870
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: everybody jumps on with that trend and you can do

1871
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: things that we've never seen before, like these whip screens

1872
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: and these jet sweeps. Those are a thing of the

1873
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: two thousands, not of the eighties and nineties in the NFL.

1874
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: So that's what you're seeing now, and that's you know,

1875
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: you see also once you do go out in those

1876
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: realms and do all this creative and all this fun

1877
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: stuff that's spread out and everything, teams are making. Hey

1878
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: going the direct opposite of the spectrum of that, like Baltimore.

1879
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: When you've got a guy who can play quarterback like

1880
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, you can look completely different than everybody else.

1881
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: So that's where we're sitting at this point in the

1882
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 1: history in the NFL. You have fullbacks kind of have

1883
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 1: their spot in something places if they've got the guys

1884
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: that can do it. But because of the way the

1885
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: game is officiated and structured these days with the rule book,

1886
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: you can do a lot more things with whoever you

1887
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: have on your roster. That's why teams look so different

1888
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Speaker 1: from from one organization to the other. Back in the

1889
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, they all kind of look the same,

1890
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so now you can

1891
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: you've got teams that look vastly different within the same league.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Let's take your call here from

1893
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Speaker 1: Jose in Buffalo. Jose, you're on the air of this.

1894
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Hey, guys, how are you doing? Okay? I'm

1895
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: great tasker. You know you're one of my favorite players

1896
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Bill's organization. Hand down. But thanks man. I

1897
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: have to disagree with you on something, all right. You

1898
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: can disagree with about everything. Yeah, you want this. You

1899
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: seem to have this this kind of no just this

1900
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: demeanor as you know, you want to get the second

1901
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: best player. That's almost like you know, you know, kissing

1902
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: your sister, and you know I don't want that. I

1903
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: want to swing for the home run. Can I ask

1904
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: you a serious questions team on the nineties that Bill

1905
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Polian was he was he one of those type of

1906
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: gems or did he swing for defenses? Did he go

1907
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: for the bold moves? Well? He did both. I mean

1908
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: he yeah, he was the executive of the year with

1909
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: three different organizations, So yeah, he did both. But I

1910
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: see your point. Go ahead, he's bold. So I want

1911
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: to see somebody I want to see I want to

1912
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: see being go out and do something. But we need

1913
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: something bold here. We need Alshon Jeffrey hur Amari Cooper

1914
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: or or swing for Defenses for for young and in

1915
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Speaker 1: the draft or something like that. We need something bold

1916
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: here now because we see the talent is here. We

1917
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: see it now, I mean not the talent, we see

1918
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: the culture is here. Being and McDermott have brought the

1919
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Speaker 1: culture and they've gotten by with the talent guys, the

1920
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Speaker 1: guys that are that are cast aways, that that nobody wanted,

1921
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Speaker 1: that our second best, you know, like Beasley, like Brown,

1922
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: that nobody wanted. Now we need a stud and now

1923
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: we need somebody who's going to come in and sell

1924
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: some thickets with some MutS in them seats. That's that's

1925
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: why that's where I'm coming with that here. Yeah, I

1926
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: get you, Jose, and I appreciate it. Here's here's what

1927
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,600
Speaker 1: I what I would caution you and some of the

1928
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: other callers we've had about, you know, going out and

1929
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 1: swing for the fence and getting go out and pay

1930
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Speaker 1: for a guy that that we think or know is

1931
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Speaker 1: a difference maker and one of the things that I'd

1932
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Speaker 1: caution you against is this, there's nothing says some of

1933
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: the guys that you're talking about aren't even on our

1934
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: own team already, like Josh Allen and Devin Singletary and

1935
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds and Turdavious White some of those guys like that.

1936
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Speaker 1: And another thing is this, what got you to this

1937
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: point is working really well, and to do what you're

1938
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: asking is is not I I'm not gonna saying you

1939
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Speaker 1: totally abandon it, but you're asking it kind of go

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Speaker 1: in a different direction. You're trying to take a different

1941
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: mindset to the operation. And I don't think you ever

1942
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: get to a point. We've we've seen it a gazillion

1943
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: times in the NFL where these teams we're a one

1944
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: piece away. We're one piece away. When you go out

1945
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: and you take a big swing for the fence, you

1946
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: get that one piece and you look at the look

1947
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: at the teams around As the Jacksonville Jaguars went to

1948
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: the championship game a couple of years ago, they were

1949
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 1: just a quarterback away. They go out and get Nick Foles.

1950
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: Not so much. Now they're further away, and you go

1951
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: and look at that and there are other examples of

1952
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: that as well. So I you're a good team, now

1953
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: stay good and get better. You don't have to. There's

1954
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: no magic potion or magic wand of one guy out

1955
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: there that's gonna make the big difference for the Bills. Now,

1956
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: there's some guys that that'll help, no question, And I've

1957
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: always said better players will make you better, But you

1958
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: don't have to go outside of what you're doing to

1959
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: make that happen. You're gonna get nine picks in this draft,

1960
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: any one of which could turn out in twenty years

1961
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer. You don't know. That's

1962
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: just that's just the unknown of it. You don't have

1963
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: to do anything other than what you're doing now that

1964
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: got you to this point to keep moving forward. It

1965
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 1: may be in small steps, it may be in big steps,

1966
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: but you don't want to take an enormous step backwards

1967
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: by swinging for the fence and striking out. Can I

1968
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 1: just say this, and I know we're up against the time,

1969
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: wise I would look. I love the moves the Bills

1970
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 1: have made being a McDermott in their two or three year,

1971
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: ten year here three years, and I love the culture

1972
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: they built, and I love the focus they have on

1973
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: getting the good players here. But it's time to apply

1974
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: that culture and apply their same decision making to a

1975
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: different kind of player, like a difference making player. I'd

1976
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 1: love to see what kind of receiver they could get,

1977
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: for instance, in free agency, if they're looking to get

1978
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: somebody who can make plays, who maybe is a good

1979
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: guy and fits into the culture, kind of like John Brown.

1980
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: He was a really good addition and fit right into

1981
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: the culture. Get another guy like that. Is that bold enough?

1982
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't you can label the bold

1983
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: or not, but I just because of they're such good

1984
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: decision makers, I eagerly anticipate the moves that are coming

1985
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: here in the next six weeks. Yeah, and don't forget,

1986
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: just by the nature of the roster, the way it's

1987
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: built now, and the draft picks and all the things

1988
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: that have to happen before next training camp opens, there's

1989
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of players that these guys picked,

1990
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: who have picked really good players already. So trust him

1991
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: to continue that. Trust him, all right, Greg McElroy. When

1992
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: we return, we're coming back for one more hour One

1993
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health from the

1994
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: Seneca studio at One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills

1995
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: Radio fo Bills Radio Network stories soft update from One

1996
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. The Bills have worked out as a restructured

1997
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: contract for Starlo Tulay, defensive tackle for the remaining three

1998
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: years of his deal. He'll now earn a fully guaranteed

1999
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: base salary of four and a half billion dollars in

2000
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, with up to one million in roster and

2001
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: workout bonuses. Originally, he signed a five year, fifty million

2002
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: dollars contract in twenty eighteen. Bill save about five and

2003
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: a half million dollars over the next three years as

2004
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: they take advantage of Starlo Tulay's contract to have a

2005
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: little flexibility of a look and now focused on its

2006
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: goal up extending some of their cornerstone players, maybe for

2007
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: Davious White, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano among them. The NFL

2008
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: has reinstated Cleveland Brown's defensive end Miles Garrett two days

2009
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: after he met with Roger Goodell. He was suspended indefinitely

2010
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: after ripping the helmet off Mason Rudolph and hitting the

2011
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback down the head back in mid November last year,

2012
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: he appealed at Garrett accused Rudolf of and signing him

2013
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 1: with a racial slur. The suspension was up held. Garrett

2014
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: missed the final six games last season. Cam Newton said

2015
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: last week Super Bowl week or two weeks ago, he

2016
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: absolutely will return to the Carolina Panthers, his owner, though

2017
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: not ready to make that commitment. He says he's waiting

2018
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: to see if he is healthy. Newton had list frank

2019
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: surgery on his left foot in early December. The team

2020
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: wants to work him out next month to see where

2021
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: he is with his rehab. Jaguars have added another former

2022
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: head coach to their offensive staff. They've hired Ben McAdoo

2023
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: as quarterbacks coach. McAdoo, fired as the Giant's head coach

2024
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 1: late in the twenty seventeen season, had been out of

2025
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: football for the last couple of years. Perhaps the door

2026
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: not completely closed for Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric

2027
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 1: the Enemy. He's a Colorado Grant and NFL insider Ian

2028
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Rappaport says, University of Colorado is expected to reach out

2029
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: to the Enemy to talk about their head coaching position.

2030
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: The Enemy of Colorado alumba school's all time leader in

2031
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Russia Savers last night beat the De Trent Red Wings

2032
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: three to two. Jack Eichel, with an assist, became the

2033
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: fourteen player ever to record seventy points in consecutive seasons,

2034
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: at least once as a member of the Sabers. Tomorrow

2035
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Night two thousands Night Savers host Columbus and Saint Louis

2036
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: defenseman Jay Bullmeester is conscious and alert in the hospital

2037
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: who suffered a cardiac episode on the Blues bench in

2038
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: last night's game at Anaheim. And that's the update from

2039
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our

2040
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: one Buffalo studio joined right now on the line by

2041
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: color analyst on ESPN and ABC for the XFL, former

2042
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: Jets quarterback two eleven two and twelve college football analyst

2043
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,759
Speaker 1: on SIRIES, XM and ESPN. Happy to have Greg McElroy

2044
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: on the line with this. We'll call this weekend's Guardians

2045
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: Defenders x XFL game Saturday at two pm with Steve Levee,

2046
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 1: Tim Lucan, Bill and Dana Rassini on ABC. Greg McElroy,

2047
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker, thanks for coming on with

2048
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: us today. We appreciate it. Hey, thanks for having me guys.

2049
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: Good to be with Bill's mafia. Yeah, they all fired up.

2050
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: All my boys go wait to Saint Bonaventure and they're

2051
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: all Bills fans, so they're all watching. They're all fired up. Man,

2052
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate a few minutes. That's awesome. Thanks, Thanks for

2053
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: coming on. Greg. I gotta ask you, in your first

2054
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: weekend to the XFL, what are your first impressions. There

2055
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of unknowns when the weekend started, but

2056
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: what have we found out this early stage. Well, we

2057
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: know that the quality of plays actually a little better

2058
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: than I think many of us had anticipated. I think

2059
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 1: a lot of us were really intrigued by the players

2060
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: and only I mean, how good were they going to be?

2061
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: For instance, former Buffalo Bill Cardal Jones, how would he fair?

2062
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: And he's the poster child for what the XFL is

2063
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be. A guy that started eleven games eleven

2064
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 1: games in his college career and now all of a

2065
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,759
Speaker 1: sudden is trying to make a roster against a veteran

2066
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: like Tyrod Taylor or someone like that. It's going to

2067
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: be difficult. So I think one thing that's been really

2068
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: interesting in watching the XFL is it's not that these

2069
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: guys have a lack of talent in many instances, they

2070
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: have a lack of experience, they have a lack of

2071
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: professional acumen. Matt Elam is another guy played for the

2072
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. It was a first round pick, had an

2073
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: incredible rookie year, and then all of a sudden thought

2074
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: that he could just do it without doing what it

2075
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: takes to be successful, just going through the motions, and

2076
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 1: all of a sudden his career slips away from can

2077
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: never regain that traction after his rookie year where he

2078
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: was dominant. So guys like Cardale Jones, guys like Matt Elam,

2079
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: those are name brand guys that should absolutely be in

2080
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: the NFL if it was exclusively about talent, But sometimes

2081
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: it's about a little more than that, about circumstances, about

2082
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: injury history, It's about other things as well. So I

2083
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: think the quality of play was shockingly good, and the

2084
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: different changes and nuanced to dish that we've made to

2085
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: the game by way of rule and the way we

2086
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: cover it, I think have attracted a pretty interesting audience. Greg.

2087
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: Do you are the organizers of the XFL. Did they

2088
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: view it as a developmental league? Is it designed to

2089
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: get players another chance in the NFL. What do you think, Well,

2090
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not viewed as a developmental league,

2091
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: but in some way, shape or form, you have to

2092
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: recognize that there's a lot of development that's going on

2093
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: in these ten weeks. So to say that it's a

2094
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: developmental league, you don't want to feel as though it's

2095
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: the miners, you know, I don't think that's necessarily fair

2096
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: because there's plenty of guys in this league, especially at quarterback,

2097
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: that could be on NFL rosters, or they could have

2098
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: signed NFL futures deals, but instead they opted to go

2099
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: to the XFL route. Take the bird in the hand

2100
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I can make three fifty four hundred,

2101
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: maybe five hundred in the XFL actually playing games, or

2102
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: I can be on a futures contract and sit there

2103
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: and not give any reps in training camp, Like which

2104
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 1: one's better for me to progress as a player. And

2105
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: I can tell you as a guy that was one

2106
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: of those fringe roster players, a guy that was probably

2107
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: somewhere between forty six and fifty three every single week

2108
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: in my three years in the NFL, I know I

2109
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: was probably in that vicinity. Now, what would I have done. Honestly,

2110
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: the best thing for me would have been to play,

2111
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: and I would have been benefited by playing in the

2112
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: XFL as opposed to sitting there as a third string

2113
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: quarterback of the New York Jets or sitting there as

2114
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: a third string quarterback in since Dati Bengals. So I

2115
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: would have played, And I think this league is for

2116
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: a guy like me. After the CBA twenty eleven, when

2117
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: they did ray with two to day practices, when they

2118
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: did away with long physical practices, and they did away

2119
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: with the forty six player rule far as third string

2120
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks concerned, it's hindered the development of that position. And

2121
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 1: I think this league is really designed to get those

2122
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: guys back going and have to get them some opportunities

2123
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,759
Speaker 1: to advance their career and for the development. It's interesting

2124
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: to think about this league in a couple of different ways.

2125
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: One there's the fact that this league is kind of

2126
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: fully embraced the gambling aspect of sports. They've also got

2127
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 1: the a management that is it's the bank roll is

2128
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 1: one guy who is, you know, ultimately looking to turn

2129
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: the whole thing into a profitable, ongoing business. The players

2130
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: are looking to further their careers, play one league against

2131
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: the other, trying to maximize financially what the what their

2132
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 1: talents can give them. And then there's the fans as well,

2133
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: who are just kind of trying to get a foothold

2134
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: on about what this thing is all about, and from

2135
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 1: all of them, for all those entities, from the gambling

2136
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,679
Speaker 1: community to the management of the league, to the players

2137
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: and the fans, even though they all come at it

2138
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: from a different thing and want to get something different

2139
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: out of it, at this early going, it seems like

2140
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 1: they're all being satisfied enough to let's roll with this

2141
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: thing and see where it takes us. Well. I think

2142
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: that's the interesting thing too, is this is not going

2143
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: to be like turning on CBS, right ESPN or Fox

2144
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 1: and watching the NFL game. It's not. We have to

2145
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: approach it differently, and what we try to do as

2146
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 1: a broadcast community is we've tried to do things that

2147
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: we wouldn't see on Sunday because if we're just going

2148
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: on quality of play, all we can't stand. We don't

2149
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: say a chance against I guess the NFL. We don't.

2150
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: It's the reality, but we don't really necessarily have the

2151
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: historical significance of college, so we have to do things differently.

2152
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: How have we done things differently embracing gambling and what

2153
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: does gambling bring a younger audience? It's the reality people

2154
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: between the ages of eighteen and thirty or in some

2155
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: cases twenty one and thirty, depending on where you live

2156
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: and what your interest level may be. That's the type

2157
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: of people that this game is going to attract, especially

2158
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: when you just are trying to generate a casual audience.

2159
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: So look, I'm thirty one years old and I know

2160
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: my friends that are in their twenties. They don't view

2161
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: gambling as taboo. Now you ask my parents, and you

2162
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: asked him about gambling, they think it's the worst thing ever.

2163
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: So I think that there's different ends of the spectrum there.

2164
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: But what my parents are drawn into is when we

2165
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: actually take the microphone. We put a microphone on the

2166
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: OC and they have direct line of communication to the

2167
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: quarterback and you can hear that interaction on the field.

2168
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: That's something my parents had never heard before in their life.

2169
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 1: So they're watching the game thinking, oh, my goodness, look

2170
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: at how cool that is. Listen to pet Hamilton call

2171
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: to play for DC and Cardale Jones listening to it

2172
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: and then regurgitating it in the huddle and then you

2173
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: know we're going up to the play and executing it.

2174
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: They've ever heard that, So we're kind of trying to

2175
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: captivate an entire audience, the hardcorees that have always been

2176
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: fascinated by that coach to player communication, and those that

2177
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: might not necessarily have a real rooting interest, but they

2178
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: have an interest because they bet on the game. So

2179
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: I think that that's kind of what we're trying to do,

2180
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: and hopefully with increased access which we're trying to get

2181
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: and which we participate getting this week, it'll only further

2182
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: the product and will know how to tighten it up

2183
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: and present it a little bit more more consistent here

2184
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 1: in the weeks to come. Talking with Greg McElroy, former

2185
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,879
Speaker 1: Jets quarterback at NFL or an x F color analysts

2186
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 1: on ABC's Got a Game This Weekend, New York Guardians

2187
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 1: and the DC Defenders Saturday at two on ABC. How

2188
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: do you embrace gambling in your broadcast? Greig? What what

2189
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: do you do to as you said, embracing gambling? Well,

2190
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: it's it's funny because it's it's like you don't do

2191
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: it in college, right, we in college games all the time.

2192
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: You don't do in the NFL like you just don't

2193
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: do it. It's almost as if if you start to

2194
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: mention gambling and talking about gambling outwardly without dropping subtle

2195
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Brent Musburger was the king of

2196
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: little hints throughout the course of a broadcast. Oh hey,

2197
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: this this extra point might mean more to some than others.

2198
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, that was always widely accepted. But when you're

2199
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: openly having a discussion about, oh man, hey a field

2200
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: goal here, if they go for two and that will

2201
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: actually hit the over so a lot of people on

2202
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: the edge of their seat for this two point conversion attempt,

2203
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 1: or if they go for three here, which would make

2204
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 1: the most sense strategically, that might put them in situation

2205
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 1: where they cover the spread. I mean, you're openly talking

2206
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 1: about and it's a little uncomfortable, fullest closure. I don't

2207
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,600
Speaker 1: have action on the game, so it's a little uncomfortable

2208
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 1: learning the vernacular and kind of wrapping your head around

2209
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: what is a different way of presenting the score, if

2210
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: you will. But it is something that there's a need

2211
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: for it, and there's there's been obviously a push for this,

2212
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: and with gambling now becoming more than norm when you

2213
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: can sume sports, this might be just the beginning of

2214
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: how games are going to be covered here in the

2215
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: years to come, knowing the gambling has become a real

2216
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: driving force behind the industry and a real driving force

2217
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: as to why people stick around for sixty minutes in

2218
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: the game. One of the things about this this league

2219
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: is also the rule differences they have with the NFL.

2220
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: There's a lot of it's easy for fans of football,

2221
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 1: particularly NFL fans, to pick and choose the rules they

2222
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: wish the NFL would adapt right away. Obviously, the microphones

2223
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: and the open mic between coaches and players are a

2224
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 1: huge part of what makes it entertaining to watch the game,

2225
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 1: as well as the football itself. But also the kickoffs

2226
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 1: are different, and also one of the things that's different.

2227
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about this broadcast end

2228
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: of it because I did the analyst thing for a

2229
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 1: long time. Twenty five second play clock, you gotta it's

2230
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: not it's nice to have it. A lot to say

2231
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: is an analyst, But you also got to know when

2232
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: to shut up, and you don't have much time between

2233
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: shutting up and speaking. My bosses have said the twenty

2234
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: five second play clock is exclusively for me, right, so

2235
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: I can wrap up a point, right It really it

2236
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:37,719
Speaker 1: is a little bit unique fortunately for us. It's twenty

2237
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 1: five second clock. From a broadcast standpoint, We're used to college,

2238
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: So you want to talk about high octane. I mean,

2239
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: college is rapid fire. So I think if you were

2240
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: to come from the NFL and go to the XFL,

2241
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: it feel like lightning speed. But coming from college and

2242
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: going to the XFL, it feels pretty normal. So it

2243
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: hasn't been hasn't been too challenging in that way. But

2244
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: I like the idea of the twenty five second play clock.

2245
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I also like the idea of putting a radio in

2246
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: every skill position player's helmet. Then I love the idea

2247
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: of a designated ball spotting official. The game feels faster,

2248
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: it feels like there's more plays, it feels like it's

2249
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: more rapid. You can make adjustments on the fly. For instance,

2250
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: if the OC can speak directly to the X receiver,

2251
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 1: he can do that via the headset, and it would

2252
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 1: be a relatively seamless procedure. I mean it would it

2253
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: help the offense, of course, but aren't we in the

2254
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: goal and aren't we trying to help offense in football already?

2255
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,759
Speaker 1: So I think it's something that the NFL should consider

2256
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,839
Speaker 1: as far as just the pace of play is concerned,

2257
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's kind of NonStop action and

2258
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: it only increases the amount of plays that are being run. Well,

2259
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,879
Speaker 1: you mentioned it the XFL. You guys on your broadcast

2260
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 1: feature a lot of behind the scenes and you listen

2261
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: directly to the coaches instructing the players. Could you see

2262
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: that ever happening in the NFL, Because it does I'm

2263
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: your parents' age. Probably it does make it more interesting.

2264
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you hear what these plays sound like when they

2265
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 1: send it in? I don't think so, no chance, right,

2266
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: could you? Hey, coach Belichick, Um, we don't care to

2267
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: put this microphone on, and if you don't mind, a

2268
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 1: coach McDermott and everybody else, they're gonna listen in to

2269
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 1: what play you're calling, and we're gonna have a real

2270
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,719
Speaker 1: understanding of your tendencies. I don't envision it, I really don't.

2271
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 1: I think this is something that's kind of been forced

2272
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: upon the XFL. I also don't think that we're ever

2273
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: going to see a spot where there are sideline reporters

2274
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: that are roaming in and sitting on the benches and

2275
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 1: talking to players immediately after plays and things like that.

2276
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,839
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL, they don't have to do things differently.

2277
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: Why would they? I mean, get in the NFL to

2278
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: move is like turning a cruise ship. I mean, because

2279
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to change. It's already perfect. Now are

2280
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: there things that I might adjust and tweak to maybe

2281
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: make the game better? Yeah? I love the NFL product

2282
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 1: just as it is, so until they are forced to

2283
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: change or until they start to lose ground to some

2284
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: other professional sports league. And as a diehard fan of

2285
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 1: the NFL, I don't ever see that happening. So I

2286
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 1: don't think we're ever going to see them be forced

2287
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 1: to use this access. But I think that makes our

2288
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: broadcast in the XFL a little different and a little

2289
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: more unique. I do think one thing that would benefit

2290
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,719
Speaker 1: the NFL would be the access to the replay official

2291
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,560
Speaker 1: which is something that we've done in the XFL, and

2292
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: that way you can understand the replay review process and

2293
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: the challenge process with a little bit better understanding. If

2294
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 1: you're just a casual fan that's watching the game. So

2295
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: I think that's something they would potentially pursue, but as

2296
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: far as Mike and coaches and players and opening that

2297
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: up in real time, have a tough time envisioning it. Well,

2298
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: we're talking with Greg McElroy, XFL color Analysts on ABC's

2299
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 1: a former Jet quarterback from twenty twenty twelve. He's also

2300
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: a college football analyst on Serious XM. I gotta ask

2301
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: you about some of the quarterbacks that are coming out

2302
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: in this draft this year. There's two attack of Aloa

2303
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: and also Joe Burrow. Those two guys if two attack

2304
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 1: of LA didn't have his hip injured as he did

2305
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 1: during this regular season, with Joe Burrow sitting right there

2306
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: having the year that he did, and also the guy

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01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 1: out Justin Herbert out in West Coast, what are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on these three guys, how good they could be

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Speaker 1: at the next level. What's your you know, what's your

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01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 1: prognostication about their future and maybe where they'll go in

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01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 1: the draft. Well, I think it's amazing when you think

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Speaker 1: about Tah and Joe Burrow, because if you were to

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01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: asking about Joe Burrow last summer, I'd say he's a

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01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:41,759
Speaker 1: fringe NFL player and maybe a sixth round pick, seventh

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Speaker 1: round pick, has a good senior year, maybe gets some momentum.

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01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: But he did an amazing job this year and I

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01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: can't really say anything beyond the fact that he was sensational.

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01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, moving in the pocket, accurate on downfield throws,

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01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: showcase in athleticism that we didn't really know he had.

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Speaker 1: So it's been amazing to see his rise. I've never

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Speaker 1: y'all in my career, and I haven't been doing this

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01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 1: that long six years, but in my career, I've never

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01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 1: even seen anyone close to making the leap that they

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Speaker 1: made from year one to year two that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: made from a junior to his senior year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not even close. So I think he's worthy of

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01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, and knowing that he grew

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01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: up in Ohio, it makes just too much sense the

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01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 1: Bengals would bring him home. I for one, though, if

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01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 1: I could have any quarterback in the draft to be

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01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: too a talk about low. I think this kid's really special,

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01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: and the injuries are concerning. They are I can't sit

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01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 1: here and say that that I wouldn't draft him and

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01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be a at risk pick because he would be.

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01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 1: But all things considered, I think about his injuries. All right,

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01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: he had two ankles, all right, he had problematic ankles.

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01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 1: He had tight rope procedure, which actually makes your ankles

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 1: stronger today than it would have coming out of the wound.

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01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: So his ankles are no longer going to be a problem.

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01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 1: And then he has a freak hip injury that you

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01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 1: only see in car wrex. It's the only time you

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01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 1: ever see it is in a far crash when the

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01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 1: dash actually hits your hip and it knocks it out

2344
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 1: of the back end of fracture that sock. I mean,

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01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: it's it's a really unusual interest. It's not like he

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01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 1: has a throwing shoulder. It's not like he has an elbow.

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01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 1: He had a knee. He had a knee last year,

2348
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 1: but that wasn't kind of a freak thing as well.

2349
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: So he's got to learn how to fall and take

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01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: a hit, and he can't extend plays. But as far

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01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: as just sheer talent's concerned, he's probably my favorite guy

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01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: in the draft. Unbelievable instincts, unbelievable talent, and high character

2353
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 1: as well. A guy that can lead and guys that

2354
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: are naturally gravitated towards him. And as far as justin

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01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 1: Herbert's concerned, I think on paper I love him. I mean,

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01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: big physical guy that can move, strong arm, throws a

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01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: beautiful ball, very accurate with the football when his feet

2358
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: are set. But I need to see kind of that

2359
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: alpha dog mentality come out in him and right now

2360
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,719
Speaker 1: and watching him, I think he's got a lot of gifts,

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01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: but I think he's a little sheltered and grew up

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01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: in Eugene, Ohio. Has never left or Eugene organ never

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01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: left Eugene or again, and I think it's going to

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01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how he relates to the

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01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: players in the locker room, because if you look at

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01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 1: these these franchise quarterbacks, I mean, having great talent is

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01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 1: half the equation. Having the mindset and the intangibles that's

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01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: the other half. And I know he's got the physical skills,

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01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 1: it just does he have the mental ability to captivate

2370
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 1: a locker room? Those are the questions that I would

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01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 1: have for Herbert. But I think he's got a lot

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01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 1: of ability. Gregy Lessing, I have for you with all

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01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 1: the college games you do on ESPN Series XM, are

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01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: there any receiving prospects that might fit the Buffalo Bills

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01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 1: where they are their twenty second bottom third of the

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01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: first round. Anybody gonna drop down then far that might

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01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 1: help the Buffalo Bills at the receiver spot. You know.

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01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: I think there's a real possibility that there's going to

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01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 1: be a bunch of I think it's an excellent receiver draft.

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01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean excellent, really really good. Now, if I were

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01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 1: the Bills, I would hope really really bad that a

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01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 1: receiver I could get and find value at receiver the

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01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 1: second or third round. So I think if you take

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01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: t Higgins at twenty two from Clemson, I think a

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01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of people think that's where he's gonna end. I've

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01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 1: seen all the mock drafts t Higgins going to Buffalo,

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01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 1: or Leaviscus Chenault from Colorado he's going to Buffalo. Or

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01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: maybe Henry Ruggs doesn't run as fast as they anticipate

2389
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: from Alabama he goes to Buffalo. I think all the

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01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: three of those guys are reach right now. I think

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01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 1: it's a really good receiver draft where you can find

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01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: excellent depth and if you can get a guy like

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01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 1: Brian Edwards from South Carolina in the late second round,

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01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 1: early third round. That's as good to me as overdrafting

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: a guy in the first round. See, I think te

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01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: Higgins has a lot of ability, but I don't think

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01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna run really well. And I don't think he's

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01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 1: the most incredible teammate in the world either, So I

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 1: have my own doubts about te Higgins and whether or

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01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: not he's going to be a dude. Now, if you

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01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: can somehow get your hands on Ceedee Lamb or Jerry Judy,

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01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: all right, different story. But I don't see that one

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01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 1: of those guys falling to the early twenties. If I'm Buffalo,

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01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe trading down from twenty two.

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01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: But if I can get my hands on a pass

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01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: rusher potential, maybe aj Epanessa from Iowa, that would be

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01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 1: a guy I'd love to try to get my hands on.

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01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: And if he's for some for whatever reason, falls down

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01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: to say, you know, early twenties, maybe you can slide

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01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 1: up a couple of picks and grab him. Maybe Claivan

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01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: chase On from LSU would be another guy would consider

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01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: who's got a really, really twitchy edge presence that you

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01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: need to keep in mind. So if I'm them, I

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01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 1: think some of the receivers that are beyond the board

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01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: potentially at twenty two would be an overdrafted potential, whereas

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01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: I might try to find value sliding up and grabbing

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01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a pass rusher or just waiting to take a receiver

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01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 1: in the second round. All right, good, good stuff, Greg,

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01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for

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01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 1: having me. Thanks great. Greg McElroy, former Jets quarterback, college

2421
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 1: football analyst on sirius XM and ESPN, NFL XFL color analysts.

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01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: In fact, he's got the game to Saturday on ABC

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01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: two o'clock. Greg McElroy will be on the game with

2424
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Steve Levy, Tom Lucanville, and Diana Rassini on ABC for

2425
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: the New York Guardians and the d C Defenders XFL

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01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: football on ABC. We thank Greg for joining us. We're

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01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: coming back with more One Bills Live presented by Kalida

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01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: Health from the One Bills Drive Studio the Senate CA

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01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Studio on Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: back to the Big Show. Our thanks again to Greg

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01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: McElroy for joining us. He was a really good guest. Um.

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01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to our Twitter question today, but

2433
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of news on the NFL

2434
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: and you know we all talk about the Bengals, what

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01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. They're gonna get Joe Burrow right. Well,

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01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: this comes through that um Ian Rappaport NFL dot Com

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01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: says the Bengals have informed their longtime quarterback Andy Dalton

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01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 1: they are willing to work with him in order to

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01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 1: facilitate a trade. Sounds like the first move for the

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01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: Bengals as they get set to make a move. Let

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01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 1: me see if Rappaport said it on NFL Now Show

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01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: and NFL Network. The Bengals are willing to work with

2443
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton on a trade. Rapp Report says a plan

2444
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: that has been communicated to him that meshes with what

2445
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 1: executive Duke Tobin told him that when decisions happen, I'll

2446
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: be in contact with him. Makes sense. I guess it

2447
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: makes sense for the Bengals start over right, start over

2448
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 1: at quarterback. There there is no future for them. Maybe

2449
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: somebody else can find something to do with Andy Dalton,

2450
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: but there's no future for the Bengals to keep Andy

2451
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Dalton around. I don't even think as a as a

2452
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: caretaker until the new the rookie is ready to go.

2453
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, I don't know that that

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01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals they can certainly, I don't know what they're

2455
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: gonna get for Andy Dalton. He's got one year left

2456
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 1: on his deal at seventeen point five millions now seventeen

2457
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: point five millions a lot of money to you and me.

2458
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I get it, but it's not for an NFL quarterback.

2459
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 1: It's it's almost half of what starting quarterbacks. He's making nothing,

2460
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 1: and it's not guaranteed. All of that stuff. You can

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01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: trade it, but it's only one year. So if you're

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01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: thinking about it in those terms, what are you gonna

2463
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: who's gonna trade for him? And what situation would it

2464
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 1: take for you to say, all right, we got him

2465
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: for one year. Yeah, right, A team like the Bean

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 1: should trade for him. Right, Where's Andy Dalton gonna just

2467
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 1: come here for one year cheap money and show this

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01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 1: guy how to do it. Where's Andy Dalton? Where could

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01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 1: he go and start in the NFL? Tennessee Andy Dalton

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01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: ahead of Tannehill if he comes back there. If he

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01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,839
Speaker 1: comes back, they're not going to franchise him and Tannehill

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01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 1: is not going to settle for seventeen million, is he?

2473
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Why would they rather have Andy Dalton than Ryan Tannehill.

2474
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense just because he's cheaper. And listen,

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01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't know where a playoff and you and I

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01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: think of Andy Ryan Tannehill with you know, disdain because

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01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 1: of his years as a dolphin. Well, they don't think

2478
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 1: about him like that in Tennessee, I guess, so maybe

2479
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 1: they won't make that. I kind of think that way

2480
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton too, to tell you the truth, right,

2481
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 1: I think he's okay at best. That's right. He's okay,

2482
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 1: but he is solid. He's a great locker room guy.

2483
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: But you only got one year on the deal. What

2484
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 1: are the Bengals gonna get out of Andy Dalton in

2485
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 1: the trade market because you're looking for the team that

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01:59:55,960 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 1: you know needs him for one year. Who's that gonna be?

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02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Miami? Are they gonna take a

2488
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft? And I'll have Andy Dalton come

2489
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 1: in and and mentor him. And they got Ryan Fitzpatrick.

2490
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Maybe Dalton's better than Fitzpatrick and then fitz don't think

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02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 1: unless fitz gets magical again, right, yeah, I think fitz Dalton.

2492
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 1: That's a real question. Where are they gonna where they

2493
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna send Andy Dalton too, Well, he's gonna be out

2494
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 1: there now. Teams will be free to put in an offer. Hey,

2495
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 1: our Twitter question today finished this sentence. The bold move

2496
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 1: I want to see from the Buffalo Bills is what

2497
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 1: give us a call? Eight three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Got a

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02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: call on the line from marketing Tonawana, go ahead and

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02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 1: mark you around the air. Hey, guys, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. Sure, you bet. I just wanted to uh

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02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 1: the caller just before we went to McElroy. Yeah, just

2503
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 1: before I thought he had a great point of you

2504
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: know what, what's it gonna take to win? Now, Steve?

2505
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills went and they got Cornelius on it.

2506
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 1: They went and they got James Lawson the next year,

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02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: actually got James laston you guys, you guys go to

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02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:09,280
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So, I mean, it's not um far fetched,

2509
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, to believe that one player can make that difference, right,

2510
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,800
Speaker 1: and I think being proved it last year when he

2511
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 1: went in you know those reports with for a bum.

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02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 1: You know that they were kind of all in on

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Speaker 1: ab and then kind of backed out of the deal.

2514
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Speaker 1: Whatever happened with all that, But I'm just encouraged by

2515
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 1: this front office and with stars contract and what they're doing.

2516
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: I just think that there's a big move that being

2517
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: kind of wants to make it. They kind of want

2518
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: to go for the cup here. But I'm gonna happen. Listen.

2519
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 1: Thanks you having me on guys. Okay, thank you, Mark.

2520
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 1: Any any comments, Well, James Lawton is a street free agent.

2521
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: When they signed him, it wasn't a bold move. They

2522
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 1: just signed a guy off the street. We got him

2523
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 1: for the last month of the eighty nine season, and

2524
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 1: there's no doubt he was a difference maker for that team.

2525
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: He was a former starting wide receiver who was at

2526
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: the um and deep end of his career and had

2527
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 1: still a lot to give. His personality and his h

2528
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: and his sense of humor and his abilities all messed

2529
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 1: perfectly with what they brought him in. They picked the

2530
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 1: right guy. He worked out with a couple other guys

2531
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 1: on the day they had him in and they signed him,

2532
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 1: and they did the right thing doing it. Corney's Bennett.

2533
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 1: That's a different thing now that is a bold move,

2534
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 1: a three team trade with number one picks from all

2535
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 1: three teams being involved, former number one picks and future

2536
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 1: number one picks all rotating from from the Rams to

2537
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 1: the it Colts to the Buffalo Bills, and from the

2538
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 1: Bills to the Rams. I mean, all of that stuff

2539
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:40,880
Speaker 1: going around was huge, huge, It was a huge thing.

2540
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 1: And that was at a time when free agency didn't exist.

2541
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: But and that was a blockbuster deal. And yeah, we

2542
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: got a who I think it's a Hall of Fame

2543
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 1: caliber player out of the deal. So yeah, and it

2544
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 1: involved a Hall of Fame caliber player in Corney's Bennett

2545
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 1: and I couldn't even tell you what happened all the

2546
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: number one draft picks that were traded around in that deal.

2547
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 1: So um, that was a huge deal. So I see

2548
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 1: your point there. If that's out there, Okay, make that

2549
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 1: deal because that didn't cost the Bills anything. It was

2550
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 1: a it was a first round draft pick that they got.

2551
02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: He was the first pick of the draft that they got.

2552
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Cost the Bills a one and a player. Uh, And

2553
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 1: you can make a you make an argument about that

2554
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 1: as well, which player you which number one draft pick

2555
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 1: are you willing to give up for that so, um

2556
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 1: two number ones? Right? Was it two ones from us? Yeah?

2557
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 1: Like plus a player that was a number one. Yeah,

2558
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:35,280
Speaker 1: that's big. Yeah. And I guess to the point that

2559
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 1: the caller was making, which I think is a valid point. Yeah,

2560
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: they were they afraid to make a deal. Well, they

2561
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 1: knew there were potential drawbacks and make a deal for

2562
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 1: a Cordney as spannet who had never stepped on in

2563
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 1: an NFL field before. But they pulled the trigger, they

2564
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 1: made the deal. That Look, I'm not advocating that sort

2565
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 1: of a move, but I am saying we can't be

2566
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 1: too close to the vest here, right, if you're the Bills,

2567
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 1: you want to see, Yeah, they should be ready to

2568
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: take a risk. They should be ready to take a

2569
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 1: risk in order to make a deal if they want

2570
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: to get their thirteen wins and contend deep in the playoffs.

2571
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I agree. And let's face it,

2572
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: we've found out kind of behind the curtains in some

2573
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 1: ways that you made them almost you know, embarrassed us

2574
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,400
Speaker 1: because Antonio Brown just out of hand st I don't

2575
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 1: want to go to Buffalo, I mean, blah blah blah. Whatever.

2576
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 1: We've heard that a million times right where players disparage

2577
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: the town. They've never been here, they've only played here,

2578
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 1: they've dropped by. You know, they don't know anything about it.

2579
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 1: So you get that all the time in Buffalo. But

2580
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 1: one of the things about it is we know this

2581
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: front office, the coaching staff, they explore all this stuff.

2582
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 1: If there's something out there that they think will make

2583
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 1: them better, they're gonna do it. They looked into Antonio Brown,

2584
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 1: they looked into other players Khalil Max, they look into

2585
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 1: all these other players that came up and became available

2586
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:55,040
Speaker 1: on the trademark or whatever. They do their due diligence.

2587
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 1: They put their hat in the ring and they say,

2588
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: let's hear this. What are the terms, Let's see and

2589
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 1: they do check it out. So I do. I'm like

2590
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 1: the caller, I mean, he just that Mark just said.

2591
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 1: I hear that. This front office is turning over every

2592
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 1: rock trying to get better. They check out all the

2593
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 1: star players, the superstar players. They're finding out what the

2594
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 1: terms are. Will they fit in here, will they do this?

2595
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Can they make this work? So I know that they

2596
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: check all these from us, all these hair brained ideas

2597
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 1: that we have that everybody thinks of they're thinking about

2598
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: it too, so if But here's the thing, and I'll

2599
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: get back to what I said earlier in the show.

2600
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem to do it with him

2601
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 1: doing anything, as long as the downs if if it

2602
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,480
Speaker 1: blows up in their face and the guy can't play

2603
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:43,200
Speaker 1: or doesn't play or doesn't produce that it doesn't set

2604
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 1: them back for five years or anything close to that.

2605
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 1: That's the only downside I have to any of this.

2606
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 1: There are no guarantees. There are no guarantees. That's right.

2607
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: And if you roll the dice, the dice might go

2608
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 1: wrong for you. I think you gotta be ready to

2609
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: take a risk here. Let's take one more call, Tom

2610
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 1: and Derby is on the line. No time you're on

2611
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 1: the air. Yes, I'll give you my take on the

2612
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:08,920
Speaker 1: x FL. I watch a lot of college football. I

2613
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 1: watch a lot of pro football, maybe three games on

2614
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 1: a Sunday, and now I'm gonna watch XFL. I don't

2615
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 1: know any of the players. I'm saturated with it. That's

2616
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: what comment I'd like to make. And then our friend

2617
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: Caperna that wants twenty million to play. He got cut

2618
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: by San Francisco because his play was substandard and all

2619
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 1: the other shenanigans. So no, I don't need the XFL. Okay,

2620
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,160
Speaker 1: we talked about that. Tom is the embodiment of what

2621
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 1: I talked about about the XFL. I guess a week

2622
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 1: or so ago and even earlier this week Monday, about

2623
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 1: the saturation level. Tom, who sounds as if he's not

2624
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 1: a younger football fan, says he's over Saturay. Is that

2625
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 1: too much? Yeah? I think there's got to be some

2626
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: people like that, right, And plus the fact that they

2627
02:06:57,960 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 1: don't haven't you know, they're not invested in the lead

2628
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 1: get they haven't had to. You know, they don't have to.

2629
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 1: They're not going to sacrifice a weekend to go on

2630
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 1: a road trip with the Defenders, you know, or the Guardians, right.

2631
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not there. None of these teams are

2632
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: there as yet, and certainly they don't have one here

2633
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 1: in this town. So I get it. It's it's too much.

2634
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: And if you if it doesn't catch you for some reason,

2635
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have a hook that's big enough to keep you

2636
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: on the reel, you're gonna get away from them. I

2637
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. I didn't watch I

2638
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 1: watched a little bit of one or two games last weekend.

2639
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 1: But you know what, after talking to a couple of

2640
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 1: people about it this week, I'm gonna try it if

2641
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,560
Speaker 1: I find the time, invest time in the XFL this weekend,

2642
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: just a game or two, you know. I like what

2643
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 1: McElroy said, and also I think mclroy made a good point.

2644
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: Is it a developmental league? You said, Well, of course

2645
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:47,440
Speaker 1: it is, but it's not really right, that was his answer.

2646
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 1: None of these guys are ticketed for an NFL contract

2647
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 1: after this, but it could happen, right, It's it's not

2648
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 1: really a developmental league, is it. No, they don't. And

2649
02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing too that the players think about, you know,

2650
02:07:58,040 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 1: yet it is kind of a development league. They want

2651
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 1: to hit a home run on a contract, and I

2652
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 1: don't think those home runs exist at this point in

2653
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 1: the XFL, you know, right, they don't. They're not signing

2654
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 1: life changing deals in the XFL, not yet. They want

2655
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: to get to a place where they can maybe with

2656
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:16,080
Speaker 1: the NFL for the ownership of the XFL Vince McMahon,

2657
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 1: or they want to make it into an entire entity

2658
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 1: that's profitable, that they can make money and it'll it'll

2659
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 1: sustain itself. You didn't want to keep pouring money into it.

2660
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 1: They certainly have partnerships that will help them do that

2661
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:32,440
Speaker 1: with TV and all that. But it's it's a developmental league,

2662
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's a standalone league on its own

2663
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 1: for now, as long as it can sustain itself and

2664
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:43,240
Speaker 1: stay interesting. But there's so many different ways to look

2665
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: at it. There's it's too early to find out who's

2666
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna win that battle. That's why don't want to watch

2667
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 1: a game. See where I think I might be going.

2668
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: One more call John in Syracuse. Hello, John, you're on

2669
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 1: the air, Hi Follows. Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

2670
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:04,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about the offensive line. Earlier

2671
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,960
Speaker 1: this year, you fellow's head on Brian Baldinger, and he

2672
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 1: talked about our two tackles and he basically said that

2673
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 1: he thought, with Cody Ford and Dawkins that we had

2674
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:22,160
Speaker 1: bookend tackles. And I think Brian Baldinger knows a lot

2675
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 1: more about tackle play than I ever did, so I'm

2676
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 1: not so sure we need to move those two guys inside.

2677
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 1: Cody Ford it was his rookie year. Yeah, he made

2678
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 1: some mistakes, but it was his first year. I think

2679
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 1: he's going to get a lot better. I do too,

2680
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, I haven't one to propose moving

2681
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:44,400
Speaker 1: both inside. Stephen Chris Brown kind of rejected that, but

2682
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 1: that's okay, we disagree on that. I look, I think

2683
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 1: Cody Ford had a pretty good year. I just think

2684
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 1: he might be better suited to play inside, especially if

2685
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,360
Speaker 1: they have another tackle to play. And I kind of

2686
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 1: agree with John on that I thought Cody Ford was

2687
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 1: not ready as a right tackle early in the season.

2688
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,200
Speaker 1: But because and one of the things that even Chris

2689
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: Brown writes about that we talked to him about on

2690
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:07,839
Speaker 1: the show today. One of the reasons to be optimistic

2691
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: about this team is their ability to develop players. And

2692
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 1: there's no question that both Cody Ford and Ed Oliver

2693
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: developed through their rookie season. This is a staff and

2694
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 1: a culture that gets these guys to get better week

2695
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 1: in week out, especially these young players that have so

2696
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:25,760
Speaker 1: much to learn and so much improvement that is there

2697
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 1: to be made. They start biting chunks out of that,

2698
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:33,480
Speaker 1: they start getting better. Cody Ford rotated with ty Niseki

2699
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 1: all through the regular season and got better and better.

2700
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, he had he was

2701
02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 1: playing the lion share the right tackle spots for the

2702
02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:43,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills who won ten games this year. And Ed

2703
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 1: Oliver evolved into a guy that he was on the

2704
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 1: field more and more and more, and finally he was

2705
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 1: taking the line's share the snaps in an eight man

2706
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:55,880
Speaker 1: rotation that was pretty steady. So both those players developed. Now.

2707
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where this coaching staff has Cody Ford

2708
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 1: peg that this point of his development, but I know this,

2709
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:06,160
Speaker 1: they want to get better everywhere. It starts with the

2710
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 1: offensive line. It may not end with the offensive line.

2711
02:11:08,840 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 1: It starts with the wide receiver, it starts with the

2712
02:11:11,080 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 1: d line, It starts with bolstering the guys. They know

2713
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 1: they've got some guys. They may lose some guys who

2714
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 1: contributed in a big way, Spain, Shack Lawson, Philip Jordan Phillips,

2715
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:26,600
Speaker 1: those three guys, especially Kevin Johnson on the outside. They're

2716
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to replace those guys or sign them. But

2717
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 1: they want to get better. They if they resign them,

2718
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:35,840
Speaker 1: they want those guys to get better. So don't think

2719
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 1: they're laying down thinking if they lose one of these guys,

2720
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 1: it's all as fornaught. But if Cody Ford doesn't play

2721
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 1: right tackle, it's because they got somebody who they think

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Speaker 1: is better and take take a great deal of comfort

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Speaker 1: in that you gotta breakcare coming back. One Bill Slide

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalia Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. So what have we learn

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Speaker 1: from today's show? Sponsored by Skyworks, the official construction equipment

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Speaker 1: rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Yet Chris Brown on

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Speaker 1: you Know Him Bills Insigner from Buffalo Bills dot com,

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Speaker 1: and we spent a long time today twelve thirty talking

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Speaker 1: about the state of the Bills offensive line, and Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown had some thoughts on what might happen this offseason

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Speaker 1: with some of those Bills offensive linemen. I think the

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Speaker 1: offensive line is a more complex issue because you have

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Speaker 1: a decision to make on a player in Cody Ford

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Speaker 1: in terms of where he is going to start for you,

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Speaker 1: be a tackle or guard. If he starts at guard,

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Speaker 1: that largely takes care of your guard hole. But the

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Speaker 1: fact remains that you have John Feliciano in the last

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Speaker 1: year of his contract as your other starting guard, and

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Speaker 1: by default, with Forward moving to guard, you have Tie

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Speaker 1: and Secky the projected starter right tackle in the last

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Speaker 1: year of his contract and five years of age or

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Speaker 1: thirty four years of age. So that doesn't mean all right,

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Speaker 1: we're good. You better get some quality depth that can play.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown talking about depth on the offensive mind and

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Speaker 1: what they need a good show today. Chris Brown and

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Speaker 1: Nate Davis USA today and Greg McElroy, all of them

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Speaker 1: solid guests today. I thought, why does it seem well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I know. The reason it seems so hard

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Speaker 1: when you hire a new head coach how long is

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Speaker 1: it's because of the time involved. Three years ago you

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Speaker 1: hire Sean McDermot and they and they are like, how

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Speaker 1: it's going to take us a long time to get

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Speaker 1: out of the cap jail and all add You know,

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Speaker 1: now that they're here, the hard part is, gosh, how

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Speaker 1: do we stay right? Well, you know, how do we

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Speaker 1: stay here? It doesn't get easier, It does not get

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Speaker 1: any stinks challenge for the Bills this offseason. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us today. Thanks for our production assistants, George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Nick Thomas, Honilder, Kelly Rude, j j Rito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Robol, producer Jay Harris. We'll see tomorrow

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Speaker 1: A noon one Bill side presented by Kalida Health. From

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Speaker 1: this like a studio in Orchard Bark that's in Buffalo,

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