1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: Spreading the corn. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Ten seconds remaining. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 4: We just go throw it up to the basket. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: Under the basket, it's the group for the wind God. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: A miracle up water hid that one from. 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 5: The parking lot. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast, presented by 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Bett MGM. I'm your host, Jim Root. I'm joined by 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the three man. We've Kay McEwan and 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Matt Cox. Every Wednesday, we'll be coming to your airwaves 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: dropping a new BBOC episode talking all things betting in 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: the world of college hoops. Of course, we will stick 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: to our normal cadence here if you're familiar with it. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: We talk live dogs of the week, we talk blowouts 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: of the week. We talk some power conference games, some 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: big showdowns, some mid major showdowns. In the end, will 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: zero in on a little bit of a trend, some 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: some spotlight section is what we call it. Matt Kai, 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: let's just get right into it, fellas. Let's talk live 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: Dog of the week. And I'm excited about this one 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: because I think there's a ton of options here. I 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: think you can go through Wednesday and Thursday Slate and 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: even Friday and find a billion of them. 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 6: Where's mine? 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 6: Where's mine? Une? 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: But we're gonna try to focus in. We'll start with Wednesday, 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: matt I'm going right to you for your alma mater. 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: They are hosting UNC the preseason number one, but Kenpom 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: has this as a six point line in favor of 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: your Hoosiers. That give the Heels some value there. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 5: Have you seen you and see play any defense this 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 5: year that gives you hope or evidence that they're going 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: to actually defend any especially upfront, especially away from the ball. 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: My goodness, they're off All defense is terrible. I know 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: it's a high line, at least on paper. If the 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 5: opener does align with kem pom KaiA at min six, 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: I mean it's probably a little bit lower, but not much. Man. 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: UNC's got some real issues and going on the road 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: to Assembly Hall and a Ruckus, we need to prove 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: it to everyone that we're going to be elite this year. 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: Indiana home crowd, I would stay way away from UNC. 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 7: I'm taking them. I'm taking you and see here's why, 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 7: Matthew and I love your Hoosiers, I really really do. 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 7: But UNC is still among the most talented teams in 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 7: the country, and they can absolutely win this game. I 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 7: saw them live in Portland. Yeah, there's a lot of 51 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 7: question marks, but also they probably should have been three 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 7: and oh the Iowa State game, they were up by 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 7: seven with under five to play, looked in control, blew 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 7: it down the stretch. The Alabama game, they had multiple 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 7: chances to win that game. 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: It was just poor execution. Jim. 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 7: The problem is Caleb Love. The guy is crazy. He 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 7: makes terrible decisions. Hubert Davis frankly not a great end 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 7: game coach right now. For me, he's not making the 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 7: right calls. He's given the ball the wrong people. But 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 7: I think that gets ironed out, and I think there's 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 7: always a chance with this much talent to pull an upset. 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 7: It would make too much much sense for you and 64 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 7: c to win here. 65 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, these teams are way too close to equals for 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: six points. For me, I'm taking you and see if 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: it's six, I'll take the spread it. I will take 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: the value on the money line. Love and R. J. 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Davis are shooting twenty six percent combined from three. I 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: don't think that continues. I know Love takes some terrible shots, 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: but part of that is taking a billion awful ones 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: in a four overtime game against Alabama, And I also 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: think losing both of those games, going one and two 74 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: in Portland can serves kind of a wake up call 75 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: for them. They've clearly been below their potential that everybody 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: thought coming in, and maybe they were too lofty in 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: preseason rankings, including our own we didn't have the number one. 78 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: But I just I don't think this team is hopeless, 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: a total disaster like Kaysa. I think the one and 80 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: two is a little rude or cruel reflection on how 81 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: they actually played out in Portland. So Matt, I'm taking them. Sorry, 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm taking your heels. I'm taking the heels against your 83 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: Hoosiers as well, losers both you So all right? A 84 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: couple others that I want to circle on Wednesday, and 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Kyle'll let you pick the one you like the most. 86 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: Here we've got Providence going to TCU, and again tc 87 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: will get Mike Miles back, but Providence has been awesome 88 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: as an underdog under Ed Cooley, so potentially something there. 89 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Sanford is heading to DePaul a Sanmford team we were 90 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: kind of high on coming to the preseason. They're coming 91 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: off a weird D two loss without their two best players. 92 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: But we think those two, Ques Glover and Jermaine Marshall 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: will be back in the lineup, and De Paul has injuries. 94 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: And then also South Alabama plus ten headed to FAU, 95 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: really talented Jaguars team and FAU has some injury questions. 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Lurking switch one of these really jumps out to you. 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, so the three, it's got to be Sanford, But 98 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 7: you have to know that Glover and Marshall in the lineup. 99 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 7: They literally just lost to an Naia team without the 100 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 7: two in the lineup. Now, part of that is because 101 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 7: Bucky McMillan's style is so variant, it's very prone to 102 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 7: weird results. He does play so fast and that makes 103 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 7: a good live dog here Matt against DePaul. If those 104 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 7: two guys are in the lineup, I can absolutely see 105 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 7: Sanford winning. It's not like the Paul is a world beater. 106 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 7: Binding Matt Streatch to the imagination Providence worries me a 107 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 7: little bit. I think TC might have woken up with 108 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 7: the Iowa win, not looking to fade them many times soon, 109 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 7: especially outright in South Alabama. Kind Of the same thing 110 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 7: for Atlanta kind of scares me. 111 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 5: Met Uh, yeah, but they have a high variance upside. Man, 112 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 5: I might arrive with the Jags here. I just think 113 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: it's a good, high variance team, and I know if 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: I U's been awesome, I think you're going to get 115 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: pretty good value there. To Paul, I think it's actually 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 5: a good bed to take Sanford too, But you got 117 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 5: to make sure those bigs are Backford, or you got to 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: make sure the bigs. 119 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: Are out for De Paul. 120 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 5: They've been a different team without Agenda and an A upfront. 121 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: So without them, I think I like Sanford and I 122 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 5: think I'm definitely going to take USA. 123 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Matt, I like them both too. 124 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: The big thing for De Paul, like you said, the 125 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: Biggs as of their last game against Texas A and 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: m nick on Genda was still in a cast on 127 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: his wrist. You Orna, the other big man was still 128 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: in a walking boot. I have a hard time believing 129 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: either or back. Potentially in no way, both are back, 130 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: I would think, and probably not full strength. Even if 131 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: a NA gets out there gets out of the walking boot. 132 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: So I'll take Sanford. It reads like the the two 133 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: key pieces out for them. Marshall and Glover were a 134 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: little bit disciplinary and kind of bucky getting getting his 135 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: ducks in a row in the locker room. So I 136 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: think they'll be out there and I like that one. 137 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: And then South Alabama talent I think can play up 138 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: as an underdog, so I think at least they cover 139 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: and we'll see about an actual outright win. 140 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 7: I believe South Alabama is five and hour or six 141 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 7: and ozer against the spread. They are one of the 142 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 7: best ATS teams in the country right now. 143 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Keep it rolling, Jags, of course, go USA. We're recording 144 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: this before USA plays, Yes, so we'll see if this 145 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: age is well or poorly. Let's go to Thursday. I'm 146 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: going to go back to you because I think you 147 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: have stronger feelings. On Thursday Slate, We've got Arizona headed 148 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: to Elevation to take on Utah Creighton as a surprising 149 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: plus eight dog at Texas in the new Moody Center, 150 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: Oakland plus seven at Cleveland State, a team we've thought 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: about kicking down the well. Plenty of other options at 152 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: Pacific plus seven at UC Davis, Chicago State plus seven 153 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: and Petune Cookman. I love the outright dog Slate this week. 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: What are you zeroing in on here. 155 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 7: Jim, I'm gonna agree with Oakland here against Cleveland State. 156 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 7: I know Oakland sucks. We've probably been documented talking about 157 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 7: that in shows. They've been terrible this year, but this 158 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 7: is a big spread. Cleveland State, you know, a solid 159 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 7: team map, but not a team that's gonna run out 160 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 7: the score on you by any imagination. Oakland can score. 161 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 7: That's that's without a doubt. So a team that can 162 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 7: score as a live dog. 163 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: I like that. 164 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 7: There's a lot of points. This feels like a game 165 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 7: they win after having some weird results early on. 166 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: In Chicago State. I like them as well. 167 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 7: Matt Petune Cookman has been terrible, been way worse than 168 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 7: we expected this season, relatively speaking in Chicago State has 169 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 7: actually won some games. So I'm going with jerld Gillion 170 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 7: there and the Cougars. 171 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: I like Oakland a lot, and I've said that pretty 172 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: much every game this year as I've hemorrhaged money backing them. 173 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's jumping the gun. 174 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: They might be a team you want to look to 175 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: back more in conference play, but plus seven, it's Cleveland State. 176 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Like I don't know. 177 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: I think Oakan's some more talented team. I don't think 178 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: they're outcome coach. I don't think they're out manned up front. 179 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: And while they are a little banged up and it's 180 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: why they've played poorly, I guess is probably the right spitte. 181 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: You know, a great bi low spot if you're looking 182 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: for stock trading parallels here. 183 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not like Cleveland State as a favorite 184 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: this year. I think that is like a mucket up 185 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: defensive squad that's going to be pretty solid as an underdog. 186 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: I just can't get on board with a world where 187 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: they're that much better than Oakland this year, considering the 188 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: talent Oakland has. I know Rocket Watts might be a 189 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: net negative everywhere he goes, but man, Oakland should be 190 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: competing at the very least and winning that game in 191 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: my mind, so I'm adding both Oakland and Chicago State. 192 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm in agreeance with you guys there. I'm not brave 193 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: enough to do the Utah one, Matt, even though we 194 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: do love our utes, don't. 195 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: We eats all the way? Kyler good, trust us, trust us. 196 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, Arizona Arizona elevation, that's probably too much. 197 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: Still on the fence, Matt. I know you've got one 198 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: last last week. 199 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: And then just to reiterate the baby Blue Jays of 200 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Creighton a big darling for people out on the island 201 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: into Maui. But maybe there's some island hangover going to 202 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: play that intense ball pressure of Texas and there's still 203 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: a very young squad that Creighton team a little bit 204 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: prone to turnover so far, especially Arthur Kaluma. I don't 205 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't love that spot for Creighton. I think I 206 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: think Texas would be my look that I don't think 207 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: Crayighton win's outright maybe covers. But all right, let's recap 208 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: everything we took here in the section. I was very aggressive, 209 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: so I went with North Carolina, Sanmford, South Alabama. Those 210 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: are all Wednesday, and then Oakland and Chicago State on Thursday. KI, 211 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: would you take? 212 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, you and c Oakland and Chicago State. So three 213 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 7: of your five there, Jim, I'm with you on board. 214 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: That's right, Jim and Kai, and that's probably not what 215 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: do you have? 216 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna go with Sanford Oakland in USA. 217 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 5: Done lock it in? 218 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: All right there, we got a lot of agreement out 219 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: of us. Quick recap on last week, just so people 220 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: can feel either confident or ready to fade us. I 221 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: took Butler against Tennessee. They covered, they did not cover. 222 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: They got blown out. Matt also did the same Soulo 223 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: loser for both of us. But Kai and Jim both 224 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: took Siena against Florida State. They won outright. They were 225 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: indeed a live dog. Down in Orlando. Army covered against Princeton. 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: They did not win outright, but they did cover. I 227 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: think all no, just Kay and Matt were able to 228 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: get a winner there. And then I said, I Awowa 229 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: State would beat Villanova. I think that game ended up 230 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: being like a one and a half two point spread, 231 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: so it was not really an outright dog. But Cyclones 232 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: did take care of business. I think that that was 233 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: that was at least a live dog against public perception 234 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: on how good on how good Nova is. Let's move 235 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: into our next section, blowout city. Last week, only only 236 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: one out of four of our bloods got there. That 237 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: was Uckey wiping out North Florida. We had we had 238 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: some bad luck Kai with Indiana not having trace Jackson Davis, 239 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: something we did not know when we recorded. Baylor did 240 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: not quite cover despite winning by twenty nine, and Matt 241 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: your Dukies kind of took a Dukie against Oregon State 242 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: had no chance of covering that game. You kind of 243 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: called that. You thought Tinkle would turn it into a 244 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: bit of a slog, so credit to you. 245 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: Thank you, but did not think Duke would carry forth 246 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: their struggles. I mean, my god, against Perdue, they couldn't 247 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: score for what felt like thirty minutes. But I don't 248 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 5: this is one where you could argue Duke is like 249 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 5: a bounce back spot and I'm just looking to put 250 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: Duke on the back burner until I see some sort 251 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 5: of consistency on offense. 252 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 7: I don't know, Kyle, what are you looking to hear? Well, 253 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 7: that's a recap, Matthew. I'm not looking at Duke this week. 254 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 7: Jim is getting us the options though. I will give 255 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 7: you the options now, Matthew. That was simply looking. 256 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: I'm right options, I'm excited. I'm sorry, I'm jumping into 257 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 5: the outline. I'm dropping the my flall Fells. 258 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: One of the teams that embarrassed Duke at PK eighty five, Matthew, 259 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: that was Purdue. They kind of demolished everybody, not really 260 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: a competition in any of their games. They're going to 261 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Florida State. Matt, tell me why this isn't a slaughter? 262 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Why should this not be a slaughter considering how both 263 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: of these teams looked so far this year. 264 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 5: Because name any of the prior seven foot Florida State 265 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: guys that have tried. They're all going to come back 266 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: and band together. And just like mal Zach ed up front, 267 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: Christ what's the biggest seven foot six glogy, Yeah, he's 268 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 5: going to come back to No, Jen, there's no chance 269 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: here for Florida State. I really don't see one. Purdue 270 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 5: is humming on all cylinders. You could argue their guard 271 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: play is the weakness of that team, but they operate 272 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 5: so well in Painters system. 273 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Brain Smith has been a revelation. The point guard Spy 274 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: is a. 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 5: Rookie, and they're all getting Zachie the ball and Matt 276 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: Painters actually playing Zachi more than ten minutes a game. 277 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 5: So Purduy looks really good and I think Florida State 278 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: has no chance here. 279 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, ka I mentioned on Twitter, I took zach e 280 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: d twenty five to one for Wooden Award during PK 281 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: eighty five and that those odds have shortened. But man, 282 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: he looks sensational. And Florida State's is so easy to 283 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: play against. Do you see this one as a blow out? 284 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? I literally just took nine to one today on 285 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: eaty Gym. 286 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 7: I missed the boat as I was in Portland and 287 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 7: couldn't bet in Illinois. Yeah, he's basically a favorite now 288 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 7: to win the award. I think he's kind of a 289 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 7: shoe in man. There's like very little chance he doesn't 290 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 7: at this point. But this is not going to be 291 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 7: a thirteen point spread, unfortunately. Maryland's literally Maryland is favored 292 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 7: by thirteen right now at Florida State today, we have 293 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 7: not seen the game yet. At Louisville at Louville at Louisville, Oh, 294 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 7: that's Louisville. I'm sorry, wrong team, you know what. I 295 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 7: still think it's to be haigher than thirteen, but I'm 296 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 7: probably gonna take Purdue. They literally beat Duke and Gonzaga 297 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 7: by eighteen nineteen points. Obviously, you can't base everything on 298 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 7: one or two games, but this florist A team is 299 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 7: not good, and gosh, you just blindly fade them this year. 300 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 7: You're up by a lot of money right now. They 301 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 7: got crushed by Nebraska. 302 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: Jym. 303 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched entirely too much of that Nebraska game, 304 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: and it was Nebraska was zero to two, and that 305 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: two tournament has not looked good this year, and it 306 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: was a walk in the park for them. Like legitimately, 307 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: Florida State is so easy to play against. They make 308 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: nothing difficult for your offense. Their offense is a lot 309 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: of Kala Mills throwing up mid range Garbaggio Matthew Cleveland 310 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: doing the same thing. Like they don't produce good shots. 311 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: We have not seen the floor for Florida State, like 312 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: they could be seven and twenty three bad this year 313 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: and potentially worse. 314 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 315 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: The a SEC's just it's bad, all right. The other one, 316 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: the other two actually I circled here North Alabama headed 317 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: to Memphis. This is also Wednesday, Memphis twenty six point 318 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: favorite per Kenpom. Again, the real lines are not out. 319 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: That is why we are going with the Kenpom line 320 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: at this point. And then Thursday, Utah Tech headed to 321 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: Utah State. Utah State has been just nuclear offensively so 322 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: far this year. U Tah Tech your saw us by 323 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: fifteen to North Dakota. Who is bad? Matt Do you 324 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: prefer either one of those or do you hate both? 325 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: Do you like both? What do you think it is? 326 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: North Dakota and not as bad as we thought? 327 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 5: I meant to ask you as this in a sort 328 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: of offline discussion for them kind of decent efforts to 329 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: be a little bit better than a little bit. They 330 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 5: found their bottom, right, They're not in the free fall anymore. 331 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 5: They've kind of found their bottom. I've been fitting Utah State. 332 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: I'm sorry U taw Tech a lot this season, unprofitably. 333 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: I think going to altitude won't be a big issue 334 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 5: for them because they they play in altitude themselves already, 335 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: and you Tostate kind of feast on teams that aren't 336 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 5: used to that in the non conference. All that said, 337 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: I think you toa state's offense is just such an 338 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: absent juggernaut right now. I don't know if you taw 339 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: Tech has the personnel to prep for it. 340 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 341 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: I think you tossed date once by twenty five here. 342 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: So that's the one I like the most. 343 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I kind of like them both. Jim, North Alabama 344 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 7: was terrible this year. 345 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: But they I knew you had a little. U North 346 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: Alabama stinks angle coming in. 347 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 7: I do because they didn't cover against Georgia Tech fifteen points. 348 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 7: If you can't do that, what can you do? They're awful, 349 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 7: bottom ten team in the country. Probably Utah State has 350 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 7: been nuclear at home as well. Besides just offense, they've 351 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 7: been good at home, and that's airy team to fade 352 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 7: at the Spectrum Center Spectrum. 353 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I lean towards both, Jim. 354 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 7: I'm not sure I'm gonna take either one of these, 355 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 7: just for reasons that I can't explain right now, but 356 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 7: I like that they're options for you, Jim. 357 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: I support you. 358 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, these these are not like huge numeric 359 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: edges for me. They are just like bad team playing 360 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: angry good team most of the time here. I mean, 361 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: maybe Produce not angry because they're so happy and resting 362 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: on their laurels, and they have a long way to 363 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: go from Portland down to Tallahassee. But Memphis probably not 364 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: thrilled with the way their tournament went in Orlando with 365 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: the buzzer beating loss of seat in Hall in the 366 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: opening round. Had to play on the loser side, and 367 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: that team is just built to demolish bad squads at home. 368 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: They're athletic rangeye defense. I think they forced one hundred 369 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: turnovers against North Alabama and blow out the Lions. So 370 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: I like all three of those. 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Promotional offers not available in 407 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: Nevada and New York. 408 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: All right, now we're talking power Game of the week. 409 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: That's right. This is power conferences, huge, huge teams, huge spots, 410 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: the ones that you're going to be watching on TV, 411 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: most likely on ESPN or FS one. What have you? Oh, 412 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: I could feel it. And now we're starting with your dookies. 413 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: You were already so excited to talk about them this week. 414 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: They're back from Portland after some down performances. They lost 415 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: on the road at Ohio State last year in the 416 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: Aen Challenge. 417 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: Meltdown, absolute meltdown Late. 418 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: Not a lot of similarities between the two teams other 419 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: than Jeremy Roach. But is there some anger coming into 420 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 2: this one? Do we see Duke with a better effort 421 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: back home and Cameron Indoor? 422 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: I think we do. 423 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: It's funny like we're going to see a very big 424 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 5: ten type of game here. I mean, Ryan Young has 425 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: become such a critical part of this Duke puzzle, which 426 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: is a little bit concerning looking at Duke's long term prognosis. 427 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 5: So he goes back against his old Big ten brethren 428 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: in the beastly front line of Ohio's Deaykai. So I 429 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 5: think this game actually is a pretty physical, low scoring 430 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: game actually kind of like the total under. But from 431 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: Duke's perspective, I just can't bet them right now because 432 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: I'm so unsure of what John Shier wants to do 433 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: with his rotations, and especially when we're looking at Derek 434 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: Lively via Shell himself, you kind of go down the line. 435 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 5: It's like, man, what does his team? What does the 436 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: Duke team really have? Like Philip Housei's been great, but 437 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: beyond that, the consistency with the talent has not been there. 438 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, and Derek Whitehead is not without shame here. He's 439 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 7: an a two OER rating this year. Guys, I know 440 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 7: he's off inch on right. The guy's played in six 441 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 7: or seven games. When does that excuse go away? He's 442 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 7: not starting, he shouldn't start. He's been terrible this season. 443 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 7: And Lively is not the number one recruit in the country. 444 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 7: That's a ridiculous rating. Having seen Duke live, I'm a 445 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 7: little bit worried about them here. Ohio looked really good 446 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 7: in the Maui Jim Maui Jim, but three seems like 447 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 7: a short spread. My number will probably say, Hey, man, 448 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 7: bet Duke. We'll see if I actually do TVD. I 449 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 7: don't really trust this team yet. 450 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, their offense terrible. I mean they scored I think 451 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: zero points in the final seven and a half minutes 452 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: against Purdue. That zero, That is no points none, not 453 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: a scored fifty four against Oregon States defense. It's just 454 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: not great right now. They don't know what they are 455 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: other than please help us Filipowski and Jeremy Roach taking 456 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: mid range elbow jumpers, which that's not a prescription for 457 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: a very efficient offense. All that said, though, if it's three, 458 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: I'll probably end upon the Blue Devils because that's low 459 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: for them back home in a nice spot, maybe a 460 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: little island hangover for Ohiose State, although this is a 461 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: full week after they finished up in Maui. We'll see 462 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: how that bears out for him, but would have to 463 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: lean towards the Blue Devils there. Whether whether I end 464 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: up taking him or not, we'll see what the ultimate 465 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: spread is on that game. You and c Indiana another 466 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: huge one in the ACC Big Ten Challenge. We talked 467 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: about that in Live Dog, though, Kai and Jim definitely 468 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: leaning towards UNC. Matt says, stay away. He loves the Suoziers, 469 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: Trace Jackson, Davis Dunk Slamo all over these these deeply 470 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: unserious tar heels so far this year. And then Thursday 471 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: also mentioned a little bit about Creighton and Texas. Matt, 472 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: I want to get a little more opinion from you 473 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: on this one, because you didn't touch on it too 474 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: much in Live Dog the Baby Blue Jays at Texas. 475 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: I know that maybe is scary, but is this number 476 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: just too big? 477 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't feel vague like eight, especially when you 478 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 5: when you look at Calc up front what I think 479 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: he can present real issues. I know Dylan DCU was 480 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 5: banged up last game or suffered a mini setback. I 481 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 5: don't know how serious that is, but I think you 482 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 5: look at this Texas revelation this year. They're already really 483 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: good to eventually last season, but this year they've just 484 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: gone from really good to Chris Beard ultra elite level. 485 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: I think dc upfront has been a big part of that, right. 486 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 5: The weakness upfront last year was weakness last year was upfront. 487 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: I think he kind of plugs that gap. And then 488 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 5: the vaunted perimeter defense is what makes everything else fall 489 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 5: into place. Without dcre with the banged up DCU Kai 490 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 5: and just put the generally undersized Texas front line. Creighton 491 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 5: can't exploit them upfront. Now I exploit them, but at 492 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: least put some pressure on the Texas defense by going 493 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: inside out if they can handle the ball, and that 494 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 5: against that initial wave. 495 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: Of pressure on the primter. 496 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's just so many things here in this game. 497 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 7: It's like, hey, Texas looks awesome, but Texas has only 498 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 7: played one real team it's Gonzaga. They look great still, 499 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 7: their schedule has been really really bad. And Creighton they 500 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 7: looked awesome. But this is Creton's first true road game, 501 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 7: and we saw that atmosphere in Texas looked amazing against Gonzaga. 502 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 7: That would affect any team, even Creighton has looked great 503 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 7: this year. Eight points, though, feels like a lot. I 504 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 7: would probably going towards Creighton here. I'm sure my number 505 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 7: will suggest I take it. I'll give it a couple thoughts, Jim, 506 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 7: because Texas at home right now could be scary. There 507 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 7: are number one and Kimpum that could be that good. 508 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 7: There's a lot to think about this game. Big defensive battle. 509 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 7: Surprisingly yep, big time Matt. 510 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: One angle you've particularly loved this year is the revenge 511 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: game against old School. You think Christian Bishop goes for 512 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: twenty five and twelve here. 513 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: That's right, another boomerang revenge type of game. I guess 514 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 5: if the pattern holds and yes, you can basically bet 515 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: on every over in the prop market for Christian Bishop, points, rebounds, blocks, 516 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: assist who knows. 517 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the motivated man. But I will probably end up 518 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: staying away because the matchup scares me. With Creighton's youth, 519 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: handling the ball against the pressure does feel a tat high. 520 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: Last one to touch on here in Power Conference Game 521 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: of the week, Seton Hall headed to Kansas. Maybe this 522 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: is stretching it after Seton Hall just lost to Sienna 523 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 2: down in down in Orlando. Not a great performance. But 524 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 2: Shaheen Holloway as an underdog is really impressive. I mean, 525 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: look what he did the Saint Peter's through the run 526 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament last year. Great defensive team. I 527 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: think they can kind of shut down a Kansas offense 528 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: that's been Jalen Wilson please get us a basket and 529 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: hopefully create Grady Dick shows up. Ken Pum has this 530 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: game at nine. Kansas has won and six against the spread. 531 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: Kevin mccullor missed last game against Texas Southern, Bobby Pettiford 532 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: likely still out to the hero of their win against 533 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 2: Wisconsin Ky. Does this set up for a by low 534 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: a little bit on the Pirates. 535 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it might, especially mcculler's out. I think 536 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 7: he's so important to what Kansas does, especially on the 537 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 7: defensive end. And yeah, their offense man hasn't been that potent. 538 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: They're thirty third right now in the country offensively. Can't 539 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 7: remember the last time Bill Self, a Bill Self team 540 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 7: has finished that low. They would be wise Matt to 541 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 7: get the ball to Grady Dick a little bit more 542 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 7: besides just catch and shoot. But I think Seaton Hall 543 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 7: can can stay within double digits here. We'll see if 544 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 7: it's actually nine TVD, hey might get that up, considering 545 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 7: Siena just beat Seaton Hall. So maybe you wait for 546 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 7: a little ted action if the markets will allow you. 547 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of lean Seatonhall. I'm with Kai. 548 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 5: I know they've had major issues with injuries and illness, 549 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 5: and they haven't had like cohesive practices and all aways 550 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: been talking about how that's kind of prevented the you know, 551 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 5: the improvement trajectory he was hoping to see. I still 552 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: think they could be a feisty dog at FAG just 553 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: as you guys mentioned. 554 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: How brittle Kay you looks this year. 555 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: A lot of injuries, very young, relying heavily, heavily on 556 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 5: the color and Dwan Harris a very good point guard, 557 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: great game managemer, but like not a guy that you 558 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 5: need to rely on for point production. And unfortunately that's 559 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: kind of where this KU offense is at right now. 560 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Holloway is a dog thing I think is big. 561 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I also like the under Kay you mentioned. Kansas offensive 562 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: rankings actually really bad in twenty twenty one. The team 563 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: that crashed out against USC early in the NCAA tournament 564 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: couldn't couldn't find a way to score that year. I 565 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: think under is a decent look because both teams can 566 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: kind of shut down the other offense. Seaton All's offensive 567 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: plan was confusing, slash nonexistent during their tournament Orlando, and 568 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: with the way Kansas has been playing defense this year, 569 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: I think they can limit it seton. Hall will probably 570 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: try to keep the game a little slower given their 571 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: situation as a road dog, but they've been willing to 572 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: run on offense, so that's more an efficiency based under angle. 573 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: And we'll have to wait and see what the number is. 574 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to midgame, mid mid game. How 575 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: about mid major game of the week. That seems like 576 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: more of a better description. Mid game would be another 577 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: name for the trash man pick of the week, and 578 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: that's coming in a second, but we'll go mid major 579 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: game of the week Wednesday, Richmond at Toledo only minus 580 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: one ken pop. Wow, the rockets the not flying quite 581 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: as high anymore, these rocket ships after a recent run 582 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: of not as great form, Toledo fighters anonymous as having 583 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: a real resurgence, Thank you, Richmond. Kind of impressive so far. 584 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: I thought they looked decent in New York in their 585 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: multi team event against Syracuse and Saint John's. But I 586 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: just I feel like Toledo trends back up here getting 587 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: home even though they don't have or might not have 588 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: Tyler Cochrane, one of their key bench guards. This is 589 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: this number is screaming rocket ships to me. 590 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is to me too, Jim, Toledo had what 591 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 5: a two game funk and I think they snapped out 592 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 5: of it. Would I would be salivating to bet Toledo 593 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 5: here is like the one time you actually get to 594 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: bet Toledo at a reasonable price, not at like the 595 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 5: super premium inflated price which they've been lyned at the 596 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 5: last year and a half two years and still have 597 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: mostly covered those spreads. So I think, great time to 598 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: back Toledo Ki point simple. 599 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: I agree. 600 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 7: They fallen thirty spots in Kimpum last week because the 601 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 7: UMKC and East Carolina just took them to the woodshed. 602 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: Really weird results, especially the MKC game. I still really 603 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 7: can't explain that they're back at home. They clearly love 604 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 7: being home. They've taken care of business twice this year 605 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: against the spread at home and Richmond. 606 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've weirdly looked good. Jim. I agree. Their defense 607 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: is a lot more solid than I thought, but still 608 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: not a. 609 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 7: Team that I'm like super concerned about, a team that 610 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 7: I'm expecting to go on the road and get a 611 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 7: win here at Toledo. 612 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Toledo chainser starting lineup last game. They put Dante 613 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: Maddox in and moved EJ. Farmer to the bench, and 614 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: they both played really well. It seemed like it worked 615 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: for both guys. J T. Shuemate, one of Toledo's best guys, 616 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: filed out early in that game, and they still beat 617 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky by thirteen. Admittedly a shorthanded Northern Kentucky team, 618 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: but yeah, that's Toledo for me. I'll be on them. 619 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: And also we have league play starting in the Missouri Valley. 620 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: Fell as a monster one to start league play. We've 621 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: got Drake, the preseason favorite, clear favorite, going on the 622 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: road to Indiana State. A bit of a darling so 623 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: far in the preseason, but Kai, like Toledo, they had 624 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: some mystifying results during their MTE. Now they're a two 625 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: point home dog against Drake. Is that too short? Are 626 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: you fading the form that the Sycamores have showed? What 627 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: do you have with this one? 628 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 7: Gosh, very tough one, A chance to make a statement 629 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 7: here if you're Indiana State after a very disappointing opening 630 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 7: year under shirts, clearly a lot of injuries. I'm not 631 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 7: fading Drake in the Missouri Valley. 632 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm just not. They've looked really good. 633 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 7: This year too, and they appear to be close to 634 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 7: one hundred percent healthy. Rowan Penn has actually been playing 635 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 7: Indiana State without Cameron Henry against the none. 636 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: D one game. 637 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 7: I don't really know if that was actual injury, if 638 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 7: he was just taking arrest, who knows, but he is 639 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 7: somewhat important. This is a really deep team, the Sycamores, Matt, 640 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 7: But Man, I don't think it's profitable fading Drake, especially 641 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 7: in the Valley, So I would not be betting the Sycamores. 642 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is tough for me. That's a lot of 643 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 5: good Missouri Valley games coming up this week here. I 644 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 5: actually would lean Indiana State. I know Drake's gotten healthier, 645 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: but doesn't feel like they're all the way there. Indiana 646 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: State's deeper. I know they had a bad MT. I 647 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: feel like I'm just trying to antotically play this team's 648 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 5: coming off really good mtes, fade them when they come back, 649 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 5: teams coming up really bad mpts, back them when they're 650 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: first game back. Kind of a sort of a oscillation angle, 651 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 5: I suppose, Man. 652 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: I have a question, as a as a big time 653 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: lifelong Valley watcher, does Indiana State and Shirts his style 654 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: of kind of run, launch threes, play fast and offense. 655 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: Is that going to work? Long term in this conference, 656 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like Hoiberg in the Big Ten. I 657 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: don't know, no with you. 658 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 5: I think the conference is kind of changing though, right 659 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: Like Bradley plays a little faster now, the Panthers run 660 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 5: a little bit more. You got Belmont in there. I 661 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 5: just think the conference isn't going to be as stuck 662 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: in the stone ages going for the next two or 663 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: three years. So maybe maybe in the evolution of times, 664 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: I you Blue can come out on top. 665 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: Buy that to go back to this game. It's a 666 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: little short for me, unfortunately. I kind of wanted to 667 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: back Indiana State. But if I'm not getting a full possession, 668 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: I'd love to get three, three and a half, then 669 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: I'll probably stay away. I do think it's a nice 670 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: spot for him, but I'm not anxious to fade Drake. 671 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: I would just need a little bit more value on 672 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: the line. All right, that's it for mid Major game 673 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: of the week. It is now time for the trash 674 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: Man pick of the week. 675 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: The trash man pick of the week. 676 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm the trash man. 677 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it. 678 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 6: Totally unreliable, undependable it that's it. 679 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: You've been told off. 680 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: How do you like that? 681 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Good? 682 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: It is the trashman pick of the week. Oh boy, 683 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: did we nail it last week? Guy, I can't believe you. 684 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: There's no way to find a trash here game. I 685 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: don't think the Air Force Mississippi Valley State game had 686 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: fifty possessions five zero five zero fifty. That is mathematically 687 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: difficult to do in a forty minute game with a 688 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: thirty second shot clock. You need offensive rebounds, you need 689 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: waiting till the shot clock buzzer. Pretty much every time 690 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: it was a mess. And it also wasn't close, so 691 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: like there wasn't any entertaining part of that. It was 692 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: just a gross game all around, the true definition of 693 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: the trash man and pick of the week. I thought 694 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: about letting Air Force make a repeat performance here as 695 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 2: they host Pine Bluff in midweek, but I'm gonna let 696 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: them off the hook. They've been a little bit better lately. 697 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: We're going with Delaware State at Saint Francis College, that 698 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: is Saint Francis of Brooklyn. Both teams are bottom twenty 699 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: per Ken Palm nationally. They're both under five hundred against 700 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: the spread. They have one combined win against d one opponents. 701 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: It's ugly, but Manka, it seems like seven points is 702 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: too many for a team that is as bad as 703 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: Saint Francis Is to be lame. 704 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: I would agree, Jim. 705 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 7: They've had a weird good effort that they beat Saint 706 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 7: Peter's this year, which was surprising. I don't really understand 707 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 7: that both teams are terrible. Obviously we saw Delaware stake 708 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: and Pete with Villanova to open the year for a bit. 709 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 7: Villanova looks terrible, but these are both two of the 710 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 7: worst offensive and defensive teams in the country. They're bad 711 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 7: on both ends, so it's going to be kind of 712 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 7: a slap fight, I think, and I leaned towards a 713 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 7: dog in that case, Matthew, but it's definitely worthy of 714 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 7: the trash Man Pick of the Week. 715 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a hard stay away. I mean, just 716 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 5: kind of a game. I'm not looking to watch or 717 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 5: even track by any means. Saint Francis, Jim, have they've 718 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: been better than we think? 719 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: That? 720 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: That's my question to you. Like, I know this line 721 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 5: was insane, I will emphatically say, okay, good that. I 722 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 5: think that's the confidence I needed to back Delaware. 723 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean to uh. 724 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 5: To back Delaware State here, Like, I just think that 725 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: that's that's seven. I hope it's seven. Please odds makers 726 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 5: follow kempom. We'd encourage you to do so from personal benefit, 727 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 5: thank you. 728 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Saint Francis is a little short handed. Rob Higgins 729 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: hasn't played. He did come back last game, but he'd 730 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: been out of lineup. But they've had the benefit of 731 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: playing a bunch of short handed teams. Like Minnesota was 732 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: down jameson battle, Saint Francis still didn't cover, Saint Thomas 733 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: was down a couple people. Saint Francis lost by twenty six. 734 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: South Florida was down a couple of starters Jamiir Chaplin 735 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: and Keisha Gryant. I'll say thirty six thirty six, Wow, 736 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: that's what I get through in mental myth. Yeah, even worse. 737 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: South Florida is down a couple starters. Saint Francis still 738 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: lost by fifteen. This is it's been bleak for them, 739 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: and I'm with with these guys. Delaware State Stan Waterman 740 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: is actually kind of trying to build something here. I 741 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: think the Villanova effort was really impressive, like kept it 742 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 2: close for the entire game. It wasn't like they got 743 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: demolished late, So I think Delaware State trending up a 744 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: little bit there and worth a wager. In the trash 745 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: Men Pick of the Week, I will round it up 746 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: with the spotlight on section, and I opted to go 747 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: with a spotlight on the best and worst against the 748 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: spread coaches from the last three years. This is from 749 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: bet Labs. Thank you to their fine data and the 750 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: game sample I think is a little bit lacking because 751 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, the COVID year, there were less games 752 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: for certain teams. But I think to you guys and 753 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: listeners will be surprised by a couple of names on 754 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: these lists. Let's start with the best coaches. Not surprisingly 755 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: Ty Kowaltchik of TILLI forty six and seventeen the last 756 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: three years. That's with his little wall that he had 757 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: in the MTE this week, that team has been dominant 758 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: against the number and of course Matt That's why we 759 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: hatched Toledo Faders anonymous because that team cover spreads. 760 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, all they do is cover spreads. My god, forty 761 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 5: six to seventeen, Yeah, it's just an insane rate. I'm 762 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 5: curious to see how quickly his Mac competitor, mister Rob 763 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 5: center Off and the Kent State Flashes are on the 764 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 5: overall record ATS record books as well, that's for sure. 765 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: Yes, and what they did recently, those Golden Flashers is 766 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: cover at Houston, who is coached by Calvin Samson. He 767 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: is one of the best ATS coaches. Thirty five and 768 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: eighteen against the number the last two plus years. A 769 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: team just doesn't have down Knights. I did read guy 770 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: that they had a little bit of a flu going 771 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: through the team and they couldn't shoot against Kent State. 772 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: So actually kind of impressive they pulled out the win 773 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: given how poorly they played. 774 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kicking myself. 775 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 7: I was like, Man, eighteen and a half points, that's 776 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 7: a lot for Kent State a team, it's really really good, 777 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 7: but it's like, oh, they're playing Houston, No, thank you, 778 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 7: not ever fading Calvin Samson. Yeah, impressively on both parts. 779 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 7: I mean, even a flu, Houston is a top five 780 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 7: team in the. 781 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: Country, right, yep. 782 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 2: And then a couple other coaches who've kind of drawn 783 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: attention so far this year, Chante Leggins at Eastern Washington 784 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: and Portland. Over those those two games, he was, Yeah, 785 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: the Portland Pilots were a wonderful watch out in the 786 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: PK eighty five. Then Jason Hooton of sam Houston State 787 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: last year got it done with Texas A and m 788 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: transfer Savion Flag. This year they're led by Wichita State 789 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 2: transfer Quaite Grant. They've got some big, outright wins at 790 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: Utah at Oklahoma so far this year. Houghton's been great. 791 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: And then Maddy Dan Earl of VMI and Chattanooga, now 792 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: just a tremendous coach, has elevated every program he's been at. Specifically, 793 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: the VMI thing was unbelievable that team should ever be competitive, 794 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 2: but they were. And now he takes over a team 795 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: with a lot more resources. So NUGA a team you'll 796 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: likely be looking to back in the next year or two. 797 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I got a well to giddy backed them a 798 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 5: couple times early this year, and it's probably jumped the gun, 799 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 5: as I like to do. I was compared to Legans 800 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 5: and Houdin, where they have ready to rock rosters right now, 801 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 5: and if you have any sort of discernible gut feeling 802 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 5: that you should back them, the data says it's probably 803 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 5: a wise to do so. Earl is an exception. I 804 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 5: think this year, with the new roster, he has at 805 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 5: the new destination. 806 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: All right, Now, this is where it gets a little 807 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: whoa surprising. The worst ATS coaches in the last two 808 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: plus three seasons, these are ones that are still employed. 809 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: I'll throw that caveat in there. Guys that have been 810 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: fired for their terrible performance against expectations. That's not helpful, 811 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: that's not actionable, and we are the action networks, big 812 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: bets on campus. All right, the worst, the worst coach 813 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: against the number recently Paul Sather of North Dakota. The 814 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: team has been bad, has been racked by injuries last 815 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: year especially, got off to a poor start this year. 816 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: But Matt thinks they're not as bad, right, you don't 817 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: think they're as bad as we thought they were. 818 00:37:59,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 819 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 5: I was hoping you Gus would answered this one for me. 820 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 5: They've I guess, played two good games. Maybe we shouldn't 821 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 5: crown them ATS kings yet. And I think a lot 822 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 5: of the North Dakota fans, if you scour through the 823 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 5: depths of their fan forums, are not Paul Sather fans. 824 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: So take that for what it's worth. 825 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 7: Fair also to North Dakota and don't have to make 826 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 7: a big thing about it, but they their best player 827 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 7: is transferred. 828 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: The last like three or four years. 829 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, bafter the season got crushed by Paula, poor Paula. 830 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's at least two years in a row. They 831 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: had the freshman of the year in the league and 832 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: he left, so ultimate insult to injury. This year he 833 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: left to go to South Dakota. They're one of their 834 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: biggest rivals, So bummer for the Fighting Hawks. A couple 835 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: other guys that have been really crushed by injuries in 836 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: recent past, Dan Dantoni at Marshall. Last year's team was weird, 837 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 2: certainly had some injury issues, but also couldn't shoot the ball. 838 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: Several guys had big time slumps. They lacked a point guard. 839 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: Thundering Herd. We're poor, Travis to cure a coach that 840 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm actually a pretty big fan of it Montana, or 841 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 2: used to be. They've been really poor against the spread. 842 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 2: I remember two years ago they couldn't win a single 843 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: close game down the stretch. It was maddening. And then 844 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: Leonard Hamilton Florida State. Last year I lost four starters 845 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: the injury, complete wreck of a roster and this year, 846 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: it has gotten worse, only worse this season, but the 847 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: last one. Fella is the third worst coach against the 848 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: number of the last three years, Chris Beard. Can that 849 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: be right? Kay? 850 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: McEwan? 851 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: Is that right? 852 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: This is surprising. 853 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 7: I'd be curious to know if it was mostly last 854 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 7: season when Texas was vaulted pretty highly in the markets. 855 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 7: Obviously they didn't quite live up the expectations last season. 856 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 7: I'd be curious that it was mostly driven by that. 857 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 7: But also Chris Beard had a really high expectations in 858 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 7: twenty twenty one with Texas Tech, kind of following a 859 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 7: couple of years after that Final four run, and they 860 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 7: they did well, but there were still a sixth seed 861 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 7: in the tournament. Perhaps we should be looking more to 862 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 7: fade Chris Beard, which is definitely not what I expected 863 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 7: going in. 864 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 2: Or maybe not fear fading him as. 865 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: Much like oh, ok basically plus eight this weekend? 866 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, the number I'm seeing, I don't agree with it. 867 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: I'll fade him obviously. That bit us Kai when we 868 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: backed Gonzag a little bit down in Austin, but man, 869 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: that was the opening of a new building, huge, huge 870 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: home game. Maybe that was the wrong spot to do it, Matthew, 871 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: are you surprised by this? 872 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 5: Uh? No, I just think after the Texas Tech run, 873 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 5: the value went through the roof too quickly, when maybe 874 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 5: he probably should have been given a pass or at least 875 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 5: a discount for the new roster assembly, that kind of stuff. 876 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: You know. 877 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 5: I'm curious how like, for example, Tony Bennett might compare 878 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 5: at a similar point in time in his coaching career, 879 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 5: the early parts of his Virginia ascension, which is kind 880 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 5: of where Beard is right now with his Texas two 881 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 5: step Texas Tech to Texas where Bennett's been a profab 882 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 5: background pretty sure for most of that time. I don't 883 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 5: know if that's like condensed to fifty percent where you know, 884 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 5: Beard kind of overinflated. Maybe the market kind of adjust down, 885 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: and if he really is a good coach, he should 886 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 5: probably be a profitable back the next three to five years. 887 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: Who knows. 888 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: Yep, that's it for Spotlight on. We're surprised to see 889 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: Chris Beard there, but perhaps he SNDS this year. This 890 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 2: is the one where the expectations were a little more 891 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 2: properly aligned. Quick recap on final bets. We did mention 892 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: all the different live dogs were taking. We think it's 893 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: a big week for them in some combination. We've got 894 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: North Carolina, Sanford, South Alabama, Oakland, Chicago State, multiple of 895 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: us on a couple of those power games of the week. 896 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: Nothing super strong, but we did maybe talk ourselves into 897 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: Creighton plus eight there with the Chris Beard spotlight and 898 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: a few blowout games we think produce smashes Florida State. 899 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 2: But the number might take off if it opens thirteen. 900 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: I bet it closes sixteen. People are wise to how 901 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: bad the bottom of the acc is. Potentially Memphis boiling 902 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: out North Alabama, potentially Utah State crushing Utah Tech as well. 903 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 2: Mid major game of the week. I think we all 904 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: liked Toledo. That was a potential pick there. Delaware State 905 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: getting seven in the trash Man Pick of the week, 906 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: keep an eye on that one. We'll see where the 907 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: number lands. But that is it. That would be our 908 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: bet recap for this week Wednesday and Thursday. We'll be 909 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: back again next week with more big bets on campus. 910 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: Thank you to our sponsor at bet MGM. But until 911 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: next time, good luck with your bets.