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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: Good news, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Drake May's back.

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Speaker 4: Drake May's back, Drake May's back, Have no fear.

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Speaker 2: We got our quarterback. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 5: Even Rusty, you can tell how smooth he is.

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Speaker 6: Just Mike was like, so that's what it's happening. I

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Speaker 6: gave you a half hour of you know, all the

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Speaker 6: things that were great. I would agree with that. The

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Speaker 6: best stuffn there's Paul.

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Speaker 7: I do have a bone to pick with Evan off

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Speaker 7: about Kendrick Bourne Christian.

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Speaker 8: When did I talk about Kendrick Bourne like it was Randy

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Speaker 8: Mo even't won't shut up a libout Kenneth forrn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Evan, you'd be honest.

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Speaker 7: Every time we talk about Kendrick Bourne, who's the only

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Speaker 7: one that.

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Speaker 2: Defended defending Evan?

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Speaker 5: Are you trolling?

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Speaker 2: Evan? Stop?

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Speaker 7: Everything was Kendrick Bourne comes up? So you are primarily the

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Speaker 7: only one to bending him.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I had a nice practice last week, but

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Speaker 8: I was just evaluating practice.

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Speaker 3: I don't know I'm gonna do some yardwork too wack.

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Speaker 9: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 9: at Gillette Stadium. It's summer has finally come.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be like eighty eight degrees here.

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Speaker 9: In Foxboro today, beautiful, nice and monkeys scorch you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the guys are walking off to practice. It felt

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Speaker 5: like training camp so high. I just feel his heat

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Speaker 5: coming into this.

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Speaker 3: You just want to be outside, not yet, I don't.

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Speaker 3: You just want to I want to be out there

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Speaker 3: side right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe next week we'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait.

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Speaker 9: All right, it's Paul Evan, Alex Deuce, Matt in the

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Speaker 9: booth talking Patriots for the next two hours and whatever

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Speaker 9: else comes up.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So the team's still practicing. We haven't seen a practice

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Speaker 9: since Monday. But next week is a big week because

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Speaker 9: it's mandatory mini camp and we'll be out there on Monday,

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Speaker 9: Tuesday and Wednesday as long as they have practice doing

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Speaker 9: our live shows, uh, starting probably around eleven thirty on

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Speaker 9: both more, you know, on Monday and Tuesday, Rabel will

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Speaker 9: do his press conference. We'll cover that live and then

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Speaker 9: we'll go to practice and we'll cover as much as

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Speaker 9: they allow us to cover with the cameras. When they

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Speaker 9: turn tell them to shut off, we'll shut off. We'll

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Speaker 9: end the show. But we will have a wrap up

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Speaker 9: show after practice, so you know, probably around two fifteen

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Speaker 5: Will we wrap up in here, Fred or are we

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Speaker 5: gonna wrap up it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, we'll wrap up in here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll come down to the studio after practice after

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Speaker 9: player availability.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so big week next week.

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Speaker 5: Huge, I mean things just ramp up during Mini camp.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Paul tell you they jump from OTAs to

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Speaker 4: It's quite The level of intensity is palpable.

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Speaker 5: It goes from about a four to five.

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Speaker 4: They go from just shorts and shorts in mini camp.

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Speaker 8: And the attendance has been really good for the voluntary

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Speaker 8: I know that you're looking forward to its being there

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Speaker 5: Even some of the guys that weren't there on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Of you mentioned yesterday was media Day.

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Speaker 9: That's the day that all the players and as many

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Speaker 9: all those photos that you see, like in NBC when.

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Speaker 2: Somebody says, hey, I'm you know next up?

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Speaker 9: You know, we film all that in the office season

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Speaker 9: And we did all that yesterday. So some pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 9: And I saw a lot of people noticed that they

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Speaker 8: They liked the gray pants though that they like the

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Speaker 3: It's the stripes on.

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Speaker 8: The shoulders that they gotta. You don't like the stripes

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Speaker 8: too big, too much stripe? Really Yeah, it's a big

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the stripes.

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Speaker 9: It's like a lot of the SEC teams like Auburn

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 8: This is a big bone with the fans. The fans

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Speaker 10: So is it that they don't like the stripes or

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Speaker 8: But just these stripes with this color coordination just doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: I think I like to pride myself that I can

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Speaker 2: Remember I fell on the beach.

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Speaker 3: You were talking about when he fell down.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was playing football with my son and I

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Speaker 2: And we were at training camp.

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Speaker 5: A football rolls by my feet and I was like,

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Speaker 5: a terrible throw. So yesterday who walks into my area?

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Speaker 5: We're doing some videos, but my god, Gibril Peppers walks

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Speaker 2: And I was like absolutely.

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Speaker 5: So I'm standing there, Gabril is standing there like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I did I think I did?

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Speaker 5: I felt like I did at least side, So I

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Speaker 5: think I think I think Gabril was disappointed in me.

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Speaker 4: His face to get one chance.

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Speaker 5: I know when I thought I was really gonna pop

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Speaker 11: But I played catch a little with the ball too.

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Speaker 10: It was I mean, granted I got a okay from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dou just threw up his mom's spaghette.

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Speaker 5: I did was because because the other guys were all

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Speaker 6: No, he just was like, well I ran the PP

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Speaker 9: So is it going to be your mission this year,

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Speaker 9: one of these years, on another occasion where you can

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Speaker 9: throw him the football.

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Speaker 5: At least somebody at least somebody. I mean I said

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Speaker 10: And I'm Matthew Slaters, not no longer here as a

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Speaker 10: of when his children would catch the balls at training

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Speaker 9: I always had this fantasy that the Patriots were playing

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Speaker 2: You know had that same rotation.

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Speaker 9: I had a catch with Edelman when we did the

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Speaker 9: do you ever have a catch with Drew Paul?

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Speaker 5: I'd just be curious what it's like to catch a

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Speaker 5: Hurt your hand exactly like I've just hurt Like how

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Speaker 5: I mean, is it just do you feel, you know,

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Speaker 4: And he said no, and I doubt. I agreed.

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Speaker 6: I think coming that fast, I'm not sure because I

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Speaker 4: In Renaissance like skills.

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Speaker 2: Chicken Anatim, she's got it all.

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Speaker 4: So we did we needed you?

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Speaker 6: I believe he's director of football strategy. Marshall homes yeah,

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Speaker 4: Like the Red Sox they have about one hundred.

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Speaker 8: But that's not all that they do. You know, that's

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Speaker 9: Always done that. How does analytics change the way they scout?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all that stuff is good.

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Speaker 8: Like they needed this, They needed to kind of bring

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Speaker 10: I don't think dis guy's your average nerd either. Like

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Speaker 5: My boy's wicked smimt.

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Speaker 11: He's wicked smile and he doesn't look like a nerd.

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Speaker 2: Like no.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, can we get a football fast stat which they're

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Speaker 8: But I think what's cool about where we're going now

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Speaker 8: The chip right, and Barry Sanders so it's an estimate,

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Speaker 8: but they do. There are analytics houses that do things

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Speaker 8: like that that are able to kind of just look

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Speaker 8: and based off them.

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Speaker 2: And so when they do that, do the numbers bear out?

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Speaker 9: Like, yes, the people that were great then would have

455
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Speaker 9: had great numbers.

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Speaker 8: Now I haven't necessarily seen at like Barry Sanders or

457
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Speaker 8: you know, someone like that, but that they do that

458
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Speaker 8: with the current players now, stuff like that.

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Speaker 9: Like Aston what do you know have any idea what

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Speaker 9: his numbers are?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ashton denty.

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Speaker 8: You know, he was more about like you know, I

463
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Speaker 8: was talking about like off the line of scrimmage, Like

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Speaker 8: his speed was more of his burst, like the first

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Speaker 8: ten yards and not necessarily you know, he has breakaway speed,

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Speaker 8: but he's not you know, necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Not worried about that.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, so he was.

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Speaker 8: He graded out pretty well in those types of metrics

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Speaker 8: and things like that. So look, I get it. It's

471
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Speaker 8: you know, not everybody's gonna be on board with it.

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Speaker 8: You know, it has its role. It's not it shouldn't

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Speaker 8: be the entire piece of the puzzle, but it's a

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Speaker 8: piece to the puzzle. And I just think a lot

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Speaker 8: of the teams that are embracing it. Are some of

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Speaker 8: the teams are some of the best scouting teams in

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Speaker 8: the NFL, especially through the draft. You know, the Rams

478
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Speaker 8: are probably the poster child right now success stories like

479
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Speaker 8: the Rams. Do they draft Puka Nakua without player player

480
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Speaker 8: tracking data? Probably not, you know, so like those are

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Speaker 8: the things that you can look at in terms of

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Speaker 8: like when it works out. But you still have to

483
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Speaker 8: you know, football is football. You still have to scout it.

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Speaker 8: You still have to, you know, really do your due

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Speaker 8: diligence and watch the tape. And the tape is king

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Speaker 8: And I don't think anybody's arguing with that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think, you know, it's one thing to

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Speaker 9: get this tracking data when they're in a sterile environment,

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Speaker 9: But what's that tracking data look during a game?

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Speaker 2: To me, that's the most important part.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's what it all is. Yeah, none of us

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Speaker 8: so like that. You know, teams like the Rams and

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Speaker 8: now the Jaguars who are following in the rams footsteps.

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Speaker 8: The Rams don't even go to the combine. They don't

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Speaker 8: pay attention to a single thing that happens at the combine.

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Speaker 8: They don't send anybody, they don't do any of the

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Speaker 8: interviews they don't look at any of the on field

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Speaker 8: drills because all of their data is in game tracking. Right,

499
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Speaker 8: how fast is this guy with pads between the lines?

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Speaker 9: Not?

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Speaker 3: I don't care what he runs in? A forty in spandex.

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Speaker 2: Still sounds stupid to me.

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Speaker 4: I think that's dumb.

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Speaker 6: Just go like, if you want to everything that Evan

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Speaker 6: just said about the data, if you want to accentuate

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Speaker 6: that data, by all means you accentuate that data.

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Speaker 4: That's what I believe in. Why would you not go into.

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Speaker 6: So why would you not utilize all the possible information

509
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Speaker 6: that you can everyone else you want to lean on

510
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Speaker 6: all of the numbers that you get on your own.

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Speaker 4: Fine, but why wouldn't you go and talk to somebody?

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Speaker 6: Why wouldn't you use the opportunity to meet with as

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Speaker 6: many players as you can to get to know who

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Speaker 6: they are.

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Speaker 8: Well, to take it a step further, they don't do

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Speaker 8: thirty visits either, So.

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Speaker 4: Like, I think that's insane, it's kind of arrogant.

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Speaker 6: So it's very ary, and I you know I'm saying this.

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Speaker 4: You know that I'm a believer in McVeigh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's exceptional, But I think that's that's

521
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Speaker 6: closing the door to information. I don't know why you

522
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Speaker 6: would ever do that. I would say the same thing

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Speaker 6: to the football I used to criticize Belichick for completely

524
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Speaker 6: being so anti analytical, even though I am more anti analytical.

525
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Speaker 6: Why would you close the door to information that can

526
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Speaker 6: possibly help you right, use it all and then determine

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Speaker 6: on your own what you think is more important.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 8: So the reason why they don't not not that I

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Speaker 8: necessarily agree with it, but the reason why they don't

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Speaker 8: do interviews is because they don't want to develop bias.

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Speaker 8: H Yes, they don't want get clouded towards the individual players,

533
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Speaker 8: Like they don't want a player that's just a great

534
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Speaker 8: talker to just talk them into drafting him if he's

535
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Speaker 8: not a great football player. So they that's how they

536
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Speaker 8: view it is that when you meet somebody in person

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Speaker 8: and you hit it off with that person, then maybe

538
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Speaker 8: you get clouded in terms of your judgment that we

539
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Speaker 8: just like this kid, so we're just gonna draft him

540
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Speaker 8: over you know, drafting somebody else who's actually got better

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Speaker 8: tape in it, a better football player.

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Speaker 6: My argument against that would be, have you never had

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Speaker 6: a I'm going to leave out my example, but that

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Speaker 6: I just thought of that maybe, chuckle. Have you ever

545
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Speaker 6: had an experience with somebody that was sort of average

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Speaker 6: on paper that was made to look better when you

547
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Speaker 6: got to talk to them and they turned out to Wow? Boy,

548
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Speaker 6: Am I glad I got to know that person because

549
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Speaker 6: they offer so much more than they're quiet.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot right right?

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Speaker 6: You tell me there's no example of a player who

552
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Speaker 6: has average skills but is put over the top because

553
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Speaker 6: he's incredibly prepared and instinctive and you know, leader, you

554
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Speaker 6: know leadership. You can't use a player like that that

555
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Speaker 6: maybe doesn't have the perfect numbers that you're looking for. Again,

556
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Speaker 6: if you want to accentuate the numbers, that's your prerogative.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that that's wrong. You utilize all the

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Speaker 6: all the analytical data that you can. But I don't

559
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Speaker 6: know why you would not want you know, am I

560
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Speaker 6: going to be afraid that I'm going to say, Well,

561
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Speaker 6: this guy flat out can't play, but he was a

562
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Speaker 6: really good guy, so I'm going to draft him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that happens a lot.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting that they came to this though, probably during

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Speaker 5: that period, but they didn't really have a lot of

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Speaker 5: high round picks, but the proof is in the pudding.

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Speaker 5: They've drafted really well the last couple of years.

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Speaker 6: They cannot do with the program, or as I like

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Speaker 6: to said, the program the program. Yeah, and argue with

570
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Speaker 6: their their success rate.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't necessarily agree with their interview process. I

572
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Speaker 8: think they do a great job though, of and they

573
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Speaker 8: show it a lot with some of the Rams behind

574
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Speaker 8: the scenes stuff where it's like less Need and his

575
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Speaker 8: kind of group, less Needs their general manager. He kind

576
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Speaker 8: of brings like that sort of analytical approach, and then

577
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Speaker 8: Sean McVay brings the football right, and so Sean McVay

578
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Speaker 8: will come in and less Need will say, well this guy,

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Speaker 8: we like this guy because of this, this and this,

580
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Speaker 8: and then Sean McVay will come in and say, well

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Speaker 8: I can use them like that, and I'm going to

582
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Speaker 8: use them like this and this is he's gonna be

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Speaker 8: a great fit because of the X, Y and Z and

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Speaker 8: they've that's I think how they kind of put it

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Speaker 8: all together. But you know, the Rams, uh, the the Eagles,

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Speaker 8: the Lions, the Ravens, certainly like these teams all have

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Speaker 8: great strong analytical departments, you know, big staffs, all of it.

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Speaker 3: That have a huge role in what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: The personal department also promoted someone to replace Cam Williams.

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Speaker 2: Did hold police have that name right here? That would

592
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Speaker 2: be Tony K.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: And he was with.

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Speaker 2: So that's a pro personnel.

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Speaker 5: That's the director of college scouting.

597
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Speaker 4: College scouting switched I think from pro to replace Cameron.

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Speaker 2: He's been around a little bit. I think he was

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Speaker 2: with Tampa for a while.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Jack and and Arbor warns us about having a

601
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Speaker 9: catch with a pro quarterback. He says, Stuart Scott, he

602
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Speaker 9: has been an ankerman. Before an NFL game, Scott asked

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Speaker 9: a quarterback to throw him a pass.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The quarterback through the pass aimed directly at his head.

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Speaker 9: Not realizing how hard the QB throws of football, Scott

606
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Speaker 9: couldn't catch it, went through his hands, hit him in

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Speaker 9: the eye, partially blinding him.

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Speaker 4: That is correct. I remember that story. That's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I thought that was just a thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was an accident.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what quarterback it was?

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Speaker 4: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't remember.

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Speaker 6: Remember our old security guy broke a finger catching a

615
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Speaker 6: pass from from you. The Zolac blood cell right that

616
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Speaker 6: former security guy. Yeah, bro, I think he broke a

617
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Speaker 6: finger catching a pass from either Bloodsoe or right, Frank, Frank,

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Speaker 6: you don't remember that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, maybe I'm just maybe I'm making stuff.

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Speaker 2: Up, my frank.

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Speaker 9: Uh. Uh. Story was we were at Bryant College and

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Speaker 9: uh that's where that happened during training camp. Okay, so

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Speaker 9: another thing happened there. He started riding a bike everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 9: Ye, I don't know what happened, but I think he

627
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Speaker 9: felt Yeah, he went he went after somebody and the

628
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Speaker 9: bike just like did a wheel and he fell off

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Speaker 9: the back of it.

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Speaker 6: He got he got mad at us when we wrote,

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Speaker 6: we wrote about the guy running on the field, right,

632
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Speaker 6: he got home made all right?

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Speaker 8: we put that that story in the newsletter, the off

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Speaker 8: air story. And I went to go pick Jess up

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Speaker 8: from somewhere. She gets in the car and she goes

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Speaker 8: saxophone huh, And I was like, I was like, you

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Speaker 8: knew I played.

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Speaker 3: Played this.

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Speaker 8: I played the saxophone and she was like, I didn't

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Speaker 8: know why. I was like, it was twenty years ago.

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Speaker 8: I think we've moved on.

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Speaker 11: The part that didn't make it in is your rock band?

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Speaker 11: You were in a rock band.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't a rock band ish. I mean, like I

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Speaker 8: like cause played it was of it.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have a name. You have a name, I know,

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Speaker 3: it didn't analytics. We never named it.

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Speaker 9: So when you say you were a rock band, you

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Speaker 9: were a bunch of guys that played together in the

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Speaker 9: garage or did you actually.

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Speaker 3: Have a we know, we only had like one or

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Speaker 3: two gigs.

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Speaker 8: And it was like kind of like an after school

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Speaker 8: program thing, and uh my mom and dad wanted me

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Speaker 8: to do it to keep it on my college resume,

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Speaker 8: and I didn't want to do like high school band anymore.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of over it.

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Speaker 8: And so we were just like jamming this dude's garage

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Speaker 8: that ran this after school program.

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Speaker 2: I did some neither brass on the band or is

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Speaker 2: this what do we Yeah, we had it.

671
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Speaker 3: We had a whole whole horn.

672
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: Second, you were like Parliament.

673
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: We were like we.

674
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 8: Liked to you know, more like Bruce Springsteed in the

675
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 8: EA Street Band. You know that was sort of what

676
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 8: we We thought that ourselves were hard fancy.

677
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 11: That last time we touched the sash man should.

678
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 10: Break it out at your wedding, high school, your reception,

679
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 10: break it out, and I think that'd be a good time.

680
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: That is right there, surprised for j I'm the wedding,

681
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: bust out the sacks and and give her a serenade

682
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: her with sacks.

683
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Right, you're saying sacks sat.

684
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: Not like sacks of the quarterback player. Some sacks. I

685
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 5: think that's a good idea.

686
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: She would love it. What song would you play?

687
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: I can play Sweet Caroline on there. Yeah yeah, yeah,

688
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: Red Sox remember.

689
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: Right now his music is Eric trying to play the piano.

690
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 9: That was funny, yeah, so Eron he insisted. Eric always

691
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 9: told us, oh I can play the piano. So we

692
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 9: were at a super Bowl. It was in Atlanta, and

693
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 9: I had an electric piano there because we're going to

694
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 9: use it for media night for one of the players,

695
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 9: and it was just set up, and so I Eric

696
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 9: go play the piano, keyboard and spot and he just

697
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 9: couldn't play. And then who was it that just jumped

698
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 9: out Jamie Jamie one and just bangs out of it.

699
00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: Was like.

700
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 9: You ever see those those those guys who are like, oh, yeah,

701
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 9: I can play the guitar, So you hand him a

702
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 9: guitar and they spend like twenty minutes and they never

703
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 9: get to anything. That was what everyone was doing.

704
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: It was just like.

705
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 9: It's like, if you really know how to play the piano,

706
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 9: you just you just start playing.

707
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: That was the Atlanta super Bowl, right, Yeah, I remember that.

708
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: You just that was That was what he did.

709
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: That's that's what he did.

710
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: That's what he did.

711
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: That was Yeah, my guy.

712
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: No artistic, no kidding.

713
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: I had training on the saxophone.

714
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

715
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 5: A lot of you played the play of an instrument though,

716
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: and you're like that you have to have a go

717
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: to song of just like here's the one I worked

718
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: on for a year that.

719
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: You know you have to figure Hollins open, right, that.

720
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: Just sounds like he's just like, so, I just I'm

721
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: not literally a bully play I'm not being a bully.

722
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: They were a little bit of a bully.

723
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 9: But he invites them, Like if you if you tell people, oh, yes,

724
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 9: I played a piano in in such a way that

725
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 9: you know, yeah this way? Yeah yeah, like you better

726
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 9: be able to play the piano.

727
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: I can push the keys down.

728
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you I can.

729
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: That's all. That's all he was doing. I can was

730
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: just like randomly hitting keys. He claimed he knew how

731
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: to play right, and he didn't.

732
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: Did he clam up or did he walk over there

733
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: with confidence and was ready to just know?

734
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: I had to coax them to the tails, like yeah right.

735
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: Ferre still has the actual video of it.

736
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's I don't know. It's like if you

737
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 9: tell someone, oh, yes I speak Italian, you better be

738
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 9: able to speak Italian.

739
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: I'm fluent.

740
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, if there's ever a guitar around and you

741
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: want me to pick it up and play an acoustic

742
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: version of Pink Pony Club, I've got that in my repertoire.

743
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 5: Now you can do.

744
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: Clubs, So you're still really.

745
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: I am being serious about the music hall on the side,

746
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 5: the musician or sorry trump.

747
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: Not the trumpet.

748
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 8: Trumpets gross, like to get those all caught in there

749
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 8: objectively cool, thank you.

750
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I picked the trombone. I had no idea what well.

751
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, the sax is cool because you don't look like

752
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 9: weird when you're playing it.

753
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: When you're playing the trumpet, your cheeks around like this.

754
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 9: But I don't know, you can kind of be cool

755
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 9: playing the saxons.

756
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 10: That sounds so good too, Like do you know Joey

757
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 10: Sacks that the Celtics games befriended him just after a

758
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 10: couple of times there when he has like when he

759
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 10: plays outside of TD Garden after a concert or something,

760
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 10: it's electric. Like he did a Celene Dion song after

761
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 10: Selene concert. It went so viral because he was so good.

762
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 8: That's like why I stopped playing in the school band

763
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 8: was because we we were doing all the classical stuff

764
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 8: and it was like, wasn't fun, Like I yeah, I

765
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 8: think nowadays they try to do it a little bit more.

766
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 8: We were actually playing songs, you know, like it's way

767
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 8: more exciting when you're when you're actually playing a song

768
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 8: than it is like when you're like going back and

769
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 8: playing like some like symphony or something, and.

770
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 11: The college marching bands do all of the lights.

771
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, Like I hear that a lot more now

772
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 8: that they do, Like they do actual songs that are

773
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 8: popular and stuff, which is much more fun.

774
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 5: Do you remember, like all the songs that your band

775
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 5: used to play, Like during football games in high school,

776
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 5: there was just like a repertoire of.

777
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: Like, you know, certain field.

778
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 5: You were paying attention to the cheerleaders in the band,

779
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 5: like me, why do you play?

780
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.

781
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 6: I was about quarterback for a while. I had the

782
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 6: baseball hat in the EyeBlack.

783
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 5: I was looking so so our band sometimes they didn't

784
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: this is high school. They didn't travel. But one kid

785
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: was really into it, the trumpet player, and so you

786
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: just had the trumpet guy go and he for like

787
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: away games, he would just trumpet.

788
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 14: You know.

789
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: It was a trumpet guy.

790
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't his name was Cliff.

791
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: It wasn't as exciting, but just a trumpet, you know.

792
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 9: But Jeremiah says, if we're giving suggestions for a song

793
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 9: that Evan should play at his wedding, on his sacks,

794
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 9: I suggest Careless Whispers just sits at the middle of

795
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 9: a dance as he circles.

796
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't pay.

797
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: What's that song?

798
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: It's about cheating?

799
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: Oh it is, Oh.

800
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Caroline, that's not nice, Jeremiah.

801
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: It's a great sacks.

802
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: It's definitely it's a great SAXA my uh, it's cheating.

803
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 8: My grandparents were massive Neil Diamond fans, huge, and so

804
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 8: at their fiftieth wedding or anniversary, I performed Sweet Caroline,

805
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 8: and I practiced for like weeks in advance to nail it,

806
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 8: and they had a little band with me and everything

807
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 8: to fill in.

808
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 14: And of course did they do the oh yeah, yeah,

809
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 14: so good, so good, so good, you know, you know,

810
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 14: and I'm just wailing.

811
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

812
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 15: I know.

813
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 5: Alex said that I don't think saxes are cool. They

814
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 5: just like silly to me, like walking out on it.

815
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: Like who's doing that?

816
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: The Battle of the Fans dancing.

817
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: Do you remember the guy in The Lost Boys who

818
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: played the sacks with like he was like shirtless with

819
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: like a leather pants and like a ponytail.

820
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 11: That was the only wedding there's a sax player. And

821
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 11: then like the after hours at the reception.

822
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: See that's where I'm going out, So I have as

823
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: I played.

824
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: Hockey with a.

825
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 5: I'm just saying this is where it all comes from

826
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: from me. I have an old friend from college who

827
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 5: that's what he does.

828
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: He moved to San Diego.

829
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 5: He plays the sacks at weddings and that's what it is.

830
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: It's like him like getting into it.

831
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: I don't know what this move is. I've never seen

832
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: anybody that plays the sas you know what you.

833
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: Got to hear and.

834
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: I don't.

835
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 6: I don't know what in the USC martching band on

836
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 6: the Tusk video for that would back.

837
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

838
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: You want to be more.

839
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: You want to be slower with it.

840
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: Dude, you're like jerking it like you don't want to

841
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: do that.

842
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you don't want to do that.

843
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what moves you don't.

844
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 14: I don't mean your strim songs, all right, I don't

845
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 14: know honestly.

846
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure I could like charge like five grand

847
00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: in appearance.

848
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 8: I'm sure I could make like I could play it

849
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 8: was in like I still would know the mechanics of

850
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 8: like if I picked one up, I could you know,

851
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 8: make noise and like things like that, But I can't

852
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 8: like actually play anymore.

853
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: I played in Saxon O's like x's and o's with Saxon.

854
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: Oh that's not bad.

855
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: You know your your two favorite things.

856
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: The brass knows all right, that's also very good.

857
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 9: Podcast at Patriots dot Com, Eric from Nashville has a

858
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 9: couple Would you rathers Okay, little football.

859
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: Good games, good job, good job.

860
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 9: Would you rather relive the two thousand and one, two

861
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 9: thousand and five Patriots or the twenty fourteen twenty eighteen Patriots.

862
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: One one one.

863
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 11: Young, so I was too young to truly appreciate game?

864
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 9: Okay? Would you rather relive the seven to twenty eleven

865
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 9: Patriots with the extreme highs and lows? Or the twenty

866
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 9: twenty twenty twenty four Patriots with just the expected lows?

867
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: Even better to have been there and lost than never

868
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: to have been there.

869
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: I would agree, better.

870
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 11: To watch Randy Moss than whatever those years were.

871
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you lose, you lose too soon? I mean, how

872
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: as opposed to not making the playoffs.

873
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: They won more than twelve games, though it's too much,

874
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: too many games he.

875
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: Probably wants to watch now.

876
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just so tired of going twelve.

877
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 9: And lastly, he says, to get Paul a new car

878
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 9: has anyone suggested pimping him out with his new body.

879
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 9: He surely has someone in his family that knows where

880
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 9: to start. Oh that's terrible, man, But I am.

881
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: Very James Street, very popular.

882
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: That's down by Park Plaza. It's notorious.

883
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: What we could do, no crap. You know you don't

884
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 5: have to leave your house anymore.

885
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 15: Though.

886
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 5: I think he just only fans it up. You know

887
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 5: you got good, you got good feet can.

888
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 11: Money to be made.

889
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 10: They just sold for nine billion dollars. It's cheaper to

890
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 10: buy only fans. It's cheaper by the Boston Celtics.

891
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think there's money to be

892
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: made for for me.

893
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 11: You never know, there's some freaks out there.

894
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: There are a lot of You're very popular with the sixteen.

895
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 5: I've seen.

896
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm not.

897
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: I've seen.

898
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: You should see him on game day sometimes the women

899
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: come calling.

900
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: They do that.

901
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: The draft party this year. Really, I think it hurt

902
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 5: you because we were down down here, weren't able to be.

903
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 14: Well.

904
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 11: He signed.

905
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: And that, Oh my god, he is.

906
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 9: Trying to find some football questions. Curtis and Saint Louis,

907
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 9: which positional battle do you think will be more? Have

908
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 9: the more surprising outcome as it comes to making the

909
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 9: roster slash Day one starter the wide receiver room or

910
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 9: the interior offensive line, which will have the more surprising outcome.

911
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: I might go in. I might go guard left guard,

912
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: surprising like a Tyree Robbins.

913
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go guard to.

914
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: I think like I kind of have a sense of

915
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 5: the wide receivers, one or two guys, maybe some questions.

916
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 5: But well, if if.

917
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 4: He doesn't, if he doesn't end up starting at this point,

918
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

919
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: Be surprised he doesn't up to be surprised.

920
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: The way the way it's been written and talked about,

921
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: man hates in the wrong place. There. Do not put

922
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: my don't assign my hate to Chisholm.

923
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: You don't.

924
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 4: You don't because I have. You don't even spoken to

925
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: the man.

926
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 5: You don't like the mold. You don't like this.

927
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 11: No, I don't like the reaction, the manufactured hype.

928
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: Correct, that's doesn't like people who try hard.

929
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, try hard doing this. Do not

930
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: do this about the player. I don't know enough about

931
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 6: the player know if I like him or not. I

932
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 6: haven't really seen him. It's the gross overreaction to everything

933
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: that I sort of pushed back on. Okay, enough, there's

934
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 6: no like, and he doesn't like people who try hard.

935
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys who try hard. Come on,

936
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: all right, don't be like.

937
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 9: Curtis also said that second question, agree or disagree? If

938
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 9: Gonzo has a similar or better season this year, signing

939
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 9: him to an extension next off season is top priority,

940
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 9: the top priority.

941
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: But is the extension eligible?

942
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't think he can.

943
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: That'd be his third season.

944
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: I think, don't you have to wait till the fourth.

945
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 6: I think they would always forget that, dang right, But

946
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 6: then he would be eligible after the third season. Oh wait, no, no, no,

947
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 6: he's right, he's right. Yeah, talk myself out.

948
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: Of that.

949
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 6: Change because Brady did it after his third Well, yeah,

950
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 6: the rules have changed. Okay, but but the emailer is

951
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: right because he's talking after this year. That would be

952
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 6: after the third year. Yes, you can decide on the

953
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 6: fifty year option.

954
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: And you can extend that. Yeah, I got all very well.

955
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: Might be that is very difficult for Paul.

956
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 5: I could see it being the top option and one

957
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: of the top options. I mean, I haven't looked too

958
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: far down the road with the free agents and everything.

959
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: But absolutely, and it seems like from what we've seen

960
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 5: with this regime that that would be on the docket.

961
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 5: With Bill, I don't feel like there will be any

962
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 5: way that they're going to up him until you know,

963
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 5: last minute. But with Wolf, I mean, they certainly seem

964
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: to have the cap space and all that stuff to

965
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: be able to handle it handle a big contract like

966
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 5: that at that point, and who else is it going

967
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 5: to go to? So yeah, I think it's definitely something

968
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 5: to watch out for.

969
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 9: Okay, Steven and Ireland A quick question, will we ever

970
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 9: see a Patriots Unfiltered Slash Cash twenty two crossover show

971
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 9: where Barth comes on? Love those shows for their different styles,

972
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 9: but just to see once a mashup of both of

973
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 9: you at the table.

974
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: Also, Alex had on a Wednesday during the season we had.

975
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: Barth come in.

976
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: He did well.

977
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 5: I remember Fred like waving Barth in. I think to

978
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 5: like talk about something.

979
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: I think it was Kickers.

980
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 9: I think I might also Alex name dropping Isaiah Rashad

981
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 9: last week as the great last great music to come

982
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 9: out was so on the money.

983
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: Kudos Alex, thank.

984
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: You for that.

985
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: Who's that?

986
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 11: I don't know, I don't know You're very good hip

987
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 11: hop artists.

988
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, Jeff in Canada. A couple off season conversation starters. One,

989
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 9: what is the best Patriots team from any era that

990
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 9: didn't advance to play in a Super.

991
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: Bowl, AFC Championship lost in any era?

992
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: Seventy six, seventy six?

993
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, they were loaded.

994
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 4: I don't know what did what did we actually asked

995
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: Steve Nelson that question?

996
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: Did we not what was better?

997
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: Who was better seventy six or seventy eight? And what

998
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 4: did he say? Did he say seventy eight was better?

999
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 9: Don Brocher, the late great equipment manager here, he said

1000
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 9: seventy eight was a better team.

1001
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: Okay, So I would say seventy eight.

1002
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: Then, yeah, that was the rushing team, right, that was

1003
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 5: the scene that said the rushing record over two thousand

1004
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 5: rushing arts. Yeah, I would say I would.

1005
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 9: Say either of those teams, seventy six or seventy eight,

1006
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 9: relatively speaking, a loaded team.

1007
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 6: Because I think the teams in recent and you know,

1008
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 6: the recent past that fell short of the Super Bowl

1009
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 6: probably got as far as they should have got. Like

1010
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 6: I don't really remember them getting upset in a conference change,

1011
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 6: like maybe the.

1012
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: Baltimore Universe they would have that they had they.

1013
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: Were That team was overachieving like crazy, right, I'm just saying.

1014
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 8: I would say the twenty fifteen team, probably when Baltimore

1015
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 8: won the Super Bowl.

1016
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: That's a twenty fifteen team. That's a good Edelman got hurt.

1017
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: Was that the year that Manning was.

1018
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: They lost, And.

1019
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: That's a really good one. I think rock instead of

1020
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: I think that's the answer.

1021
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that team was a wagon until they people started

1022
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: getting hurt.

1023
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 6: I would say the seventy six and seventy eight teams

1024
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 6: were better than that personally, but in their era.

1025
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

1026
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 5: One of them had Tom Brady fifteen teams.

1027
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not comparing talent on teams. I'm comparing like that.

1028
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 4: Fred said, yeah, yeah.

1029
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: The other one, I would say.

1030
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: So just like the seventy six team. This, you know,

1031
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 4: and a good friend g.

1032
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 6: Matt Jerry told me to make sure you explain when

1033
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 6: you do, like the little cart into the history way

1034
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 6: back machine. Yeah, so seventy six, just let everybody know

1035
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 6: the Oakland Raiders won the Super Bowl that year. They

1036
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 6: lost one game all year, they went thirteen and one,

1037
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 6: They went through the playoffs, they rolled to a super Bowl.

1038
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 6: They really weren't tested. The one loss was a forty

1039
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 6: eight to seventeen loss to the Patriots here in Foxborough

1040
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 6: and the playoff, the one close playoff game was a

1041
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 6: game that a lot of people think was stolen away

1042
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 6: from the Patriots fan and wild card game. Yeah that

1043
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 6: was rough in the passer Yeah, rough in the passer game.

1044
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: So that tells you how good that Patriots team was

1045
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 6: relative to the rest of the league. No one else

1046
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: could play with Oakland. The Patriots pounded them once and

1047
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 6: was We're up twenty one to ten in the fourth

1048
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 6: quarter of the playoff game in Oakland and couldn't hold on.

1049
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1050
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 5: That was part of my conversation with Steve Nelson. I

1051
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: asked him if beating the Raiders in eighty five still

1052
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 5: had some meaning after what had happened previously, and you know,

1053
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 5: he said yes, And that's something I think that gets

1054
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: lost now we're so used to free agency and teams

1055
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: changing so much that he kept playing into you know,

1056
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 5: ten plus twelve years because they had been with all

1057
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 5: those guys like it just it felt like that was

1058
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: a continuation all through the early eighties, that it was

1059
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: kind of the same team, the same players. You know,

1060
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 5: a couple guys would changed here and there, but he

1061
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: still felt that in eighty five, like we're the same

1062
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: team where we have all the pieces. We just they

1063
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: think eighty one eighty two, those seasons they had winning records,

1064
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 5: they just didn't make the playoffs. They were an okay team.

1065
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 5: So I think that gets lost. But it's it's so

1066
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 5: different watching those teams and looking at the teams around them.

1067
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: There was no turnover.

1068
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 5: It's pretty much the same who that's your team.

1069
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, draft want to say in that era, you know,

1070
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 6: so seventy eight was really good. They won eleven games.

1071
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 6: Seventy nine I think they fell off a little bit

1072
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 6: because that was the year that you know, Fairbanks had

1073
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 6: gone ron Orheart took go over. Eighty I think they

1074
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 6: won ten games, didn't make the playoffs. Eighty one they

1075
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 6: fell apart. Yeah, they went two and fourteen in eighty one,

1076
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 6: but then they recycled and went to the playoffs in

1077
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 6: the strike year of eighty two. Ron Meyer, you know,

1078
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 6: came in sort of built them up. Then he left

1079
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: and Barry got them to the super Bowl in eighty five,

1080
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 6: went to they won the division in eighty six, so

1081
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 6: they would they did. I know, everybody just thinks that

1082
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 6: always sucked in the eighties, but they did have some

1083
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 6: good teams.

1084
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: They did.

1085
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 5: That defense was outstanding. I mean watching it now, I

1086
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 5: have a whole new perspective on how good they were

1087
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: across the board, and not only.

1088
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 9: What do you think was parcels here as a line

1089
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 9: in eineteen eighty eighty and Nelson said, I think they

1090
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 9: went ten and six that year and didn't make the playoffs.

1091
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Nelson that year he had been I

1092
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: think seven years pro That was his first Pro Bowl.

1093
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: I think he was fifth place in Defensive Player of

1094
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 5: the Year voting. You know, he said Bill Parcells was

1095
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: was the best coach. But that eighty five defense was stacked,

1096
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 5: and they also had guys that just played great that

1097
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 5: season two like Fred Marion came on and had so

1098
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 5: many cut, clutch interceptions. I have such a new perspective

1099
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 5: on it after kind of watching those games.

1100
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 9: It's a Jeff saying, sir, is the twenty ten team

1101
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 9: that was fourteen and two.

1102
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 6: I was a good but that's a good addition. I

1103
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 6: think that's another team that overachieved like crazy.

1104
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 8: I would say out of the dynasty teams, like six

1105
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 8: twenty fifteen, would like qualify for that.

1106
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good addition to it.

1107
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 8: They had they still had no business losing to the Jets,

1108
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 8: like they killed the Jets in the regular season.

1109
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: Shouldn't have watched the Jets. I just didn't think they

1110
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: were They weren't a fourteen and two team. Yeah.

1111
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they would have won it all,

1112
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: but they should not have lost the guests.

1113
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: Second question, what is different right now?

1114
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 9: If Rabel was hired last January when he was available

1115
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 9: after Bill and Robert parted ways, good question.

1116
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: We have varied now, it would be a very different

1117
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: gone differently I think.

1118
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I think this is kind of a pall thing,

1119
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: but I don't think he would have run it back

1120
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 5: with all the Patriot players probably.

1121
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

1122
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 6: I think that's that's the biggest thing, is how many

1123
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 6: guys would have gotten rid of last.

1124
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 5: Year declined to resign.

1125
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think that's a good one.

1126
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 5: You know, mre to tension a year early. I mean

1127
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 5: that's a question maybe, but there's a lot of things

1128
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 5: they did last year that I think he probably would

1129
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 5: have come in and wanted to put his own stand.

1130
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, Jeffrey says, I think for Vrabel, the male year

1131
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 9: is the best thing ever because it removes the pressure

1132
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 9: of being the guy who followed bets.

1133
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: So but we might have signed Derrick Henry so Deuce

1134
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: miss that I didn't even think of that, and thank

1135
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: you good email, Jeff Good.

1136
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 5: I think it was a shoke brought that point. I'm

1137
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 5: sure I was talking to him about. I mean, unfortunately

1138
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 5: for Mayo, he kind of became the buffer year and

1139
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 5: there's no real comparisons now to Rabel and and Belichick.

1140
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 5: He kind of has carte blanche.

1141
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Now that's true.

1142
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 8: I mean like they tried that with Cam though, and

1143
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 8: then like you kind of you were trying to clear

1144
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 8: the decks for Mac, but like it still felt like

1145
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 8: Mac was the successor to Brady because and I wonder

1146
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 8: if it ends up feeling that way with this will

1147
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 8: be like the.

1148
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: Trivia thing they're like who coached in between?

1149
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 8: It will be if if, especially if it works well

1150
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 8: to bring it to some other local Boston sports news.

1151
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 8: You know, the Bruins hiring Marco Sturm now are just

1152
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 8: like on this trend of every hire as a former

1153
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 8: player who played for the team that hired them, and

1154
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 8: so yeah, it was like the only one, right, but

1155
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 8: the you know, the Celtics have Sam Cassel on the

1156
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 8: staff who played for them, so like they it's they

1157
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 8: have like every team now has a guy that has

1158
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 8: a connection to to the team as a player. And

1159
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 8: all three Bruins, Red Sox, Patriots, they all played in

1160
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 8: the same era in Boston as well, you know, and

1161
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 8: their respect team.

1162
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: So it's cool.

1163
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: It's so funny by talking about this with my hockey

1164
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: buddies this weekend about just how different the public and

1165
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 5: sports fans view football coaches who are geniuses and the

1166
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: ones who make it work and hockey coaches who get

1167
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: fired left and right. They're just kind of there for

1168
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 5: a little while to see if they can motivate guys.

1169
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: But there's no you don't the way you hold up

1170
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: you know, the.

1171
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 5: Like the greatest football coaches of all time, Vince Lombardi,

1172
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 5: Like you don't look at Scotty Bowman and say like

1173
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 5: he was a genius, like he was a great coach.

1174
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: But there's not that pressure on football coaches where they've

1175
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 5: got this secret playbook, they've got all the answers, and

1176
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: I don't know where you guys, find Basketball falls in that,

1177
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: but it's such a different perspective, Like how many teams

1178
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 5: is Peter Laviolette my cousin Pete coached or you know,

1179
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: Mike Sullivan's got another job, Like they just go from

1180
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 5: place to place. Football, you get maybe two chances and

1181
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 5: then that's it.

1182
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 2: You're out.

1183
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 5: It's weird.

1184
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 8: I would say basketball has it's it's fair share, like

1185
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 8: Red Hour back off the triangle offense with Phil Jackson

1186
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 8: pat Riley, Like those guys are.

1187
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 5: How smaller guys you do set up plays Hockey it's

1188
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: their plays, and there's defenses and offenses, but it's so

1189
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 5: much more fluid that you're more training guys to react

1190
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 5: on the fly rather than get in position and go

1191
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: to these exact spots. It's not like that.

1192
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 11: The more basketball evolves to the less that becomes.

1193
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean current coaches like Rick Carlisle now taking

1194
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 8: the Pacers to the finals is like one of the

1195
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 8: best coaching jobs I've seen in a long time in

1196
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 8: the NBA, And that's pretty rare that you say that.

1197
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 8: Don't really say that too often, but basketball too, you

1198
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 8: have all the college coaches, you know, John Wooden and

1199
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 8: coach k and you know, uh rupped from Kentucky and

1200
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 8: like all like those guys like that's also a big

1201
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 8: part of it in basketball too, because those guys coach

1202
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 8: in college basketball for like twenty thirty years.

1203
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: Some of them stay at the same school. So it's baseball's.

1204
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 5: Weirsi too because you're kind of like part of the game,

1205
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 5: but you have to you know, you're controlling the flow

1206
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 5: a lot more in baseball, I would say than maybe

1207
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 5: other sports. You're able to you know, it's it's you're

1208
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 5: constantly chiming in with what are we doing in this situation?

1209
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: What guy am I going to hit here? They're this matchup?

1210
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 8: You know.

1211
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: All reprimanded me the other day for talking baseball.

1212
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 5: Oh, it's a sport.

1213
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: He's a hall of reprimanded.

1214
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 9: I was talking about Brian Bao, Say I look good.

1215
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 9: I said he was getting stronger as the night. When

1216
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 9: I said, he's at his best when that fastball has

1217
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 9: that late.

1218
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: Paul's like, okay, I don't know. I don't one gets

1219
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: to baseball.

1220
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: No, no, I wouldn't.

1221
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 6: I certainly wouldn't say that any pitcher for the Red

1222
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: Sox is better when that fastball like that was the

1223
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 6: part that made me last it's true.

1224
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm an observer of sports.

1225
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 6: I would I would say that in general terms, coaches

1226
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 6: all four sports are vastly overrated in their like tactical approach,

1227
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 6: like the x's and o's not football, I think I

1228
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 6: think it's I think they all run virtually the same stuff.

1229
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 6: It's all about feel and when you're calling plays and

1230
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 6: how you're exploiting mismatches and what I'm going to call

1231
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 6: this play against this defense because I know it's gonna work.

1232
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 6: Like they're all running the same place, like the same

1233
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 6: kind of concepts. In general, I think that what separates

1234
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 6: guys is their ability to connect and motivate and lead.

1235
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 6: And that's why to Evan's point, like Mike Krzyzewski and

1236
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 6: all these guys like, it's not because Mike Krzyzewski's running

1237
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 6: a different offense than Rick Patino is running, right, No,

1238
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 6: it's they all have their different philosophies and systems.

1239
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: College.

1240
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 9: It's the more success you have, the more obviously stability

1241
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 9: you have, the more the school needs you to stay

1242
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 9: because for recruiting.

1243
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 6: It builds on it, you know, it builds on itself,

1244
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 6: it sustains itself. And I do think in basketball because

1245
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: there are a fewer players, it's less important as.

1246
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 9: To what you see, Well, the player is the less

1247
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 9: correct if you're if Lebron's on your team, right, you

1248
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 9: have less of an impact than Rick Carlisle has because

1249
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 9: Halli Burton is probably their best player, but he's not

1250
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 9: really a superstar.

1251
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1252
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 8: Well, I think that's the cool part about what's happening

1253
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 8: in the NBA now is that it's really everybody's calling

1254
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 8: it like the weak Link era, because like, really it's

1255
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 8: like you need to have five really good guys and

1256
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 8: it's not so much about it. It's not like a

1257
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 8: Lebron dominating the league anymore. It's like which team has

1258
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 8: the best one through five in the league, Like Oklahoma seven,

1259
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 8: Oklahoma City is gonna win and there they have the

1260
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: best starting lineup and really the best like top five

1261
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 8: or six guys out of any team.

1262
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: Now they also have the MVP of the league.

1263
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 8: But like SGA is not going to go down as

1264
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 8: like a Lebron James, right, Like he's not going to

1265
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 8: be like an all time great player. But you know,

1266
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 8: the Celtics were kind of the same way last year,

1267
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 8: where Tatum is their best player and it's arguable where

1268
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 8: he ranks and the pantheon, so that it's a different

1269
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 8: kind of era in basketball now.

1270
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 9: Tim our friend from Duncan writes in the Patriots seventy

1271
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 9: sixteen is one of the greatest teams to not reach

1272
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 9: a Super Bowl. I was at the forty eight seventeen

1273
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 9: game the hated Raiders. The roughing, the passer call that

1274
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 9: lost the playoff game was one of the worst in history.

1275
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: That game would have been over. That is why the

1276
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: tuck rule was so satisfying to me.

1277
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 5: The funny thing is is you watch that play now,

1278
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 5: that's a penalty all day, long time, right right back

1279
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: in my seventies.

1280
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 6: But it probably wasn't a penalty in the seventies, right, Fred,

1281
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 6: you hit him in the head?

1282
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you hit him in the head.

1283
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 9: Follow up from last show, Fred, you're thinking about bars

1284
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 9: of soap is all wrong. The soap companies will never

1285
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 9: change the shape or style because they don't care about

1286
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 9: the little nub that you have to deal with at

1287
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 9: the end of the bar. With how much you hate

1288
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 9: that left over piece, you're still giving them your money

1289
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 9: regularly they've won and you've lost. Unfortunately, Also, the rest

1290
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 9: of the Guys that say they're using a loofah are

1291
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 9: probably just using a bath scrub as Loofahs are actually plants.

1292
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 9: They used to be used in its shower, but some

1293
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 9: cultures eat them in soup, stews, et cetera.

1294
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: That's it's not really I just used plastic, not as

1295
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 5: much as I should, but I actually I actually drown

1296
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 5: it in soap every day. So I'm hoping that that

1297
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 5: maybe helps kill things out.

1298
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 11: A lot of bacteria.

1299
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: Well, no problems, Yeah, we'll see.

1300
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1301
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 5: I only use it for my my man bits and

1302
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 5: you know.

1303
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: Information you can't notice.

1304
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta save your soap. You can't wash

1305
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: your hair that much.

1306
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 5: It's something I've discovered later in life.

1307
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: It's it's dries you out right.

1308
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 4: That's my problem, right, It dries you out.

1309
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 9: Soap, Uh Christ and Colfax. The subject line says, Paul

1310
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 9: hates fun. I would love to see how long Paul

1311
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 9: would hold out on hating Julian Edelman if you were

1312
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 9: drafted to the team now exactly how he was out

1313
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 9: of Kent State. Also, Will Campbell is one hundred percent

1314
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 9: the guy Paul was thinking about swaying the coach staff

1315
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 9: in an interview.

1316
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: Well, I can see that.

1317
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 6: I'm you know, yeah, I'm not necessarily saying that. Actually

1318
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 6: he has me confused with Fred and Mike, who were

1319
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 6: both anti fun. You can't celebrate good plays, you can't

1320
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 6: do anything fun. No, but the Edelman comparison is actually

1321
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 6: a good one because the email is right. I was

1322
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 6: very slow to come around on Edelman and Welker, and Welker,

1323
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 6: but I would say, I will do it when you

1324
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 6: give me reason to. But they're both right. I was

1325
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 6: very late to the party on both guys because I

1326
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 6: wanted to see it. Don't just tell me that this

1327
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 6: guy's great, like sight Onseen Julian. Edelman's first training camp

1328
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 6: was a disaster. He couldn't catch the ball in practice,

1329
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 6: he was dropping punts, he was slipping all over the field.

1330
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 6: Then all of a sudden, he goes out in a

1331
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 6: preseason game and electrifies with a punt return for a touchdown.

1332
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 6: You're like, h, maybe this guy's got something. Who you know,

1333
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 6: And I don't sit there for the next seven years

1334
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 6: and say he's not that good. No, that's part of

1335
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 6: like sort of adjusting, admitting you're wrong, admitting this guy's

1336
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 6: got a little bit more to his case and you know,

1337
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 6: maybe learned something at the NFL level.

1338
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in your defense too, how many of

1339
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 5: those guys were billed as the next Welker or the

1340
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 5: next Settlement or the next Troy Brown and your time here,

1341
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: they're probably.

1342
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 6: I'm telling you that this is at least thirty long

1343
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 6: three that did it. Sheky's another one.

1344
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 4: Everybody told me how graat he was, how Mike every

1345
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: single told me, this guy is this, this guy's don'tbelievable.

1346
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 6: He's the next one, you know, Jeremy Eber, Jeremy Gallon,

1347
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 6: TJ Mole like like this is that you fell in

1348
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 6: love with from Miami. Jeff Thomas, Uh Thomas another one.

1349
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,479
Speaker 8: But not in that mold Jeff Thomas was. But Brad

1350
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 8: Barrios ended up having a pretty solid career. He has

1351
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 8: had a pretty solid career.

1352
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: Stiff, so stiff. He's a borderline NFL player.

1353
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,479
Speaker 10: No, everybody said, I feel like if he wasn't dating

1354
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 10: Alex Always.

1355
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: Still I'm not saying around the least.

1356
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 8: I'm not saying he's a Hall of Famer. But but

1357
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 8: Bradson Barrios has carved out an NFL career like.

1358
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: It's not like some of these guys that I'm talking

1359
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: about kicked around.

1360
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 6: Isn't like Austin another one he played for the Saints,

1361
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 6: like you had an NFL career, I think they said.

1362
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: But they all said they were Welker and Edelman, and

1363
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 6: it's so disrespectful to Welker and Edelman, those guys with

1364
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 6: special players, and none of these guys has even approached that.

1365
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 6: But I'm telling you there's at least two dozen that

1366
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 6: I could give you that that everybody told me we're

1367
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 6: going to be.

1368
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: That Matt and for Worth Texas.

1369
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 9: Like so many other loyal listeners of PU, I look

1370
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 9: forward to your show every week, and you guys truly

1371
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 9: help me and so many other listeners get through their day.

1372
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 9: That being said, I feel compelled by a sense of

1373
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 9: duty and responsibility for every other PU listener to call

1374
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 9: out our common enemy.

1375
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: Christian in la oh Man, please waiting now?

1376
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 5: I now I reach it.

1377
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: You're in Hollywood, Mike.

1378
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: You should know now. I recently left the Marine Corps

1379
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: after seven years.

1380
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 9: And the only reason I bring that up is to

1381
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 9: say I've been through many, many situations that are extremely

1382
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 9: mentally and physically demanding, and none of it comes close

1383
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 9: to the pain and suffering I endure whenever a Christian

1384
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 9: in LA decides to pipe in and run his mouth.

1385
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 9: Every single show, I ran the math on how big

1386
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 9: of a problem this specific caller is.

1387
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 2: In a year, there are about one hundred and twenty

1388
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: PU episodes.

1389
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 9: Assuming Christian in La calls in and rambles for two

1390
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 9: to four minutes an episode over the course of one

1391
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 9: year is a time accumulates to four to eight and

1392
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 9: a half hours per year.

1393
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 5: Now, PU is it my show?

1394
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: I think that.

1395
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 9: That this egregious amount of time needs to be curtailed.

1396
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 9: Christian in La. This is semi lighthearted. Please stop with

1397
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 9: so many rambling, dumb questions and so.

1398
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: As in Rebuttal. I have Christian LA on the phone

1399
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: right now. Christian, what say you?

1400
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 7: I say I should ramble and.

1401
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 16: Go on tangents because apparently there are people out there

1402
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 16: in Patriots nations that do not like Patriot fan. I

1403
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 16: am a Patriot fan and whover you are if you

1404
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 16: don't like that? I think about my questions first as

1405
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 16: to not waste the guys I'm at the babe, just

1406
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 16: maybe have another.

1407
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 17: Angle on what our patriots are doing that you and

1408
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 17: my friend should become a death band and be surest

1409
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 17: to the losers.

1410
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 7: That's my rebuttal for that guy.

1411
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 17: Okay, now onto my daily ramble, keeping on, keeping on subject.

1412
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 17: If you guys had to do a karaoke song like

1413
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 17: pictured the Wind the Soup Bowl if he did, what

1414
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 17: would each of your ghost songs be? And part B

1415
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 17: of my rabling questions based on their personality we can

1416
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 17: know about them? What karaoke song do you think, Bill, Tom,

1417
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 17: Julie and Gronk with you? And yes, I'll take it

1418
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 17: off there so I can listen to it. The rest

1419
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 17: of the people hate on Christians.

1420
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: From la good okay, all right, and Christian's defense.

1421
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 8: He called into Cash twenty two and apologized to me yesterday,

1422
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 8: oh for his Kendrick.

1423
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 3: Bourne, who did he?

1424
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 4: Have?

1425
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 5: You mistaken?

1426
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 18: It?

1427
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: Actually your doppelganger, Scott Zolac.

1428
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 8: So he said that it was Zoe, which didn't surprise

1429
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 8: me because he called us we're at noon, and I

1430
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 8: guess is from ten to noon he might have been

1431
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 8: listening to Zoe and Beatle and her dad.

1432
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 6: So he said it was so I respect that I

1433
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 6: do not remember you waxing poetic about Kendrick Bourne. Yes,

1434
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 6: and you guys know me.

1435
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: I remember.

1436
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 9: One thing about Christian is he has the moniker of

1437
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 9: the worst caller.

1438
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: And he owns it. He does, he loves he is

1439
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: the worst call takes.

1440
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 4: It right, proves it right. Just kidding Christians.

1441
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: So what would be your go to karaoke song?

1442
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 11: Alex all Right? I got two?

1443
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 5: She's ready.

1444
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 10: I've won a couple of karaoke contests and Monday.

1445
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 5: I heard her sing the other day. She's a soprano.

1446
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 5: It's she's a wonderful voice.

1447
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 11: I have a good karaoke voice.

1448
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 10: If I I wouldn't actually pursue singing because I would

1449
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 10: be like the tryhard girl.

1450
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 11: But I think I I'm pretty good karaoke. My mom's

1451
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 11: a good singer. I don't know musical household. I want

1452
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 11: to dance with somebody, Whitney Houston. I won a Carrie

1453
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 11: I know. I want a karaoke contest in New Orleans

1454
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 11: at the cast.

1455
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 10: Me out with that song, A number two that's music

1456
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 10: exactly why not?

1457
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 11: Sadly? Number two?

1458
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 10: Dirty Little Secret by the All American Rejects. It's pretty unexpected,

1459
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 10: but it kind of like.

1460
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 11: People get riled up by it. I put a lot

1461
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 11: of thought into this.

1462
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: You've already in Nashville.

1463
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 5: We've done a couple.

1464
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did bust a move in Nashville

1465
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: for for the boys. That was it was.

1466
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 6: It might have been the fact that I had twenty

1467
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 6: seven beers in me at the time, but yeah, I

1468
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 6: thought you did.

1469
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: It well, it was actually for you, it was.

1470
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: We haven't gotten into it yet.

1471
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 5: I used to do the Wanderer a little bit.

1472
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 19: I want to.

1473
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: And I also did a.

1474
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: Big one at the at the at the Woodshed is

1475
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 5: Amy Amy, Peer Prayer, Prairie League, what you want to do?

1476
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 5: So those are the ones I've done before, but I

1477
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 5: don't know.

1478
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: I'd like to.

1479
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: I'd like to do some Neil Diamond. I think I

1480
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 5: could do Crackling Rosie.

1481
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: I could do that one, okay, Evan smash mouthed All Star.

1482
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

1483
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 5: Would you play your sacks with it too?

1484
01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: Or is that one.

1485
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: Very easy?

1486
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1487
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: Like no, not a lot of range on it, you know,

1488
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: and big sax and the verses are the verses are

1489
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: basically rap.

1490
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: So it's like I've been singing a monotone song and

1491
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: I just.

1492
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: Have and I just haven't played whispers.

1493
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 8: So yeah, I have no vocal range whatsoever. I cannot

1494
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 8: sing for my life, so I usually stick to some

1495
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 8: sort of rap. But like you can't play some rap

1496
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 8: is inappropriate, so you have to play, you know, friendly rap.

1497
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Kids Fall roller Coaster by Ohio Players.

1498
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: No, I can't. You guys know how bad I am.

1499
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 4: You guys can't You got to have a go to

1500
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 4: the only song I've ever done ane Fever and karaoke.

1501
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 4: I told you it was like a virgin, like a

1502
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 4: virgin college.

1503
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 6: I don't have a go to karaoke song because I

1504
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 6: am legitimately one of the five worst singers in the

1505
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 6: history of the world.

1506
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I can see that.

1507
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 11: Jackson five, I want you back.

1508
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 5: Oh that's a great song.

1509
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: I think that's what I should do.

1510
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 11: You can take it from me. It was my honorable mention.

1511
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 5: I don't think you can hit those noseball Sorry, No,

1512
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 5: that's Michael Jackson.

1513
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: I love to sing, I just I just can't do it.

1514
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 6: I had Beth very very concerned that I was going

1515
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 6: to sing reasons at our wedding, and I think at

1516
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 6: the like, I just kept saying it, knowing like you know, I.

1517
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: Don't know if you know the song like you talk

1518
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: about range.

1519
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: And notes like you be talking to Kuba Stank right.

1520
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 4: Now, Like I could not.

1521
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 6: I could not have done it, but I think at

1522
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 6: there was a point like I finally I said, no reasons,

1523
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 6: but yeah, okay, it is I just can't, Like there's

1524
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 6: no possible.

1525
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: Way I would be able to sing that a different song.

1526
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: And I finally, like a week before, I was like,

1527
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: you know that, I'm not really going to do that, right,

1528
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 4: And she's like, oh, I didn't think you were going to.

1529
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: But I was kind of getting worried.

1530
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: About it, like no, I can't sing at all ruin

1531
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 6: the wedding, but I sang like a virgin at Teas

1532
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 6: pub been.

1533
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: Like ninety maybe eighty eighty eight eighty nine.

1534
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 5: They still talk about it was that, like it was

1535
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 5: it ironic?

1536
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: Like is that what you were going?

1537
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 4: I was that was a little bit of a slow.

1538
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 2: Did it work?

1539
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 12: You know?

1540
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: It was a message?

1541
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 5: It was more like karaoke is a message to the

1542
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 5: female population of Boston University.

1543
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 4: A few other drunk baseball players doing the same time.

1544
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 9: I was at a bit of I was at a

1545
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 9: bar in the Cage and a friend of mine who

1546
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 9: thought he wasn't good.

1547
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: Singer was up there and he did.

1548
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 9: Carry So I rolled up a cocktail nap and wet

1549
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 9: it and you know, threw it at his head and

1550
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 9: like you know, so he stops and yells at me.

1551
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: The next thing, you know, the whole bar is throwing

1552
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: stuff starting. But the thing is, he keeps singing.

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Speaker 9: He's hiding behind this half wall, and every the whole

1554
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 9: bar is just like the air is full of just

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 9: debris being thrown at him while he's time.

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Speaker 6: Letter a few weeks ago about who would be the best,

1557
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 6: the best, like backstory or.

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Speaker 4: Ever. I was just like Fred Fred has done.

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Speaker 2: Oh I have karaoke.

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 4: BA.

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Speaker 9: When I got arrested in Dallas after I sang karaoke,

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Speaker 9: he broke all the windows.

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Speaker 4: Did not know that one.

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Speaker 11: What's your song? Fred?

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Speaker 9: I would say it's either Mac the knife, Oh that's good,

1566
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 9: or the way you look tonight?

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Speaker 2: Great? Great?

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01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: So I could do I could probably try to do

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Speaker 4: a frank Yeah.

1570
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 5: I was going to say something like that.

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: I feel like that summer wind.

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Speaker 11: That's a good key. That's an easy key for the

1573
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 11: voice to sing.

1574
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I could do summer wind.

1575
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: Could I could?

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 5: I tell the mccallen's story real quick with great songs.

1577
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 5: Just a quick story from Media DA yesterday. So they

1578
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 5: play music for all the stuff that we do, and

1579
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 5: guys come in and they want their different songs and stuff,

1580
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 5: and you know, try to be accommodating and getting them

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 5: in the mood and stuff. And and so finally mac

1582
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 5: collins comes in here the end of the day and

1583
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 5: they're like, listen off all the stuff they've been playing

1584
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 5: for his teammates, and he was like, oh, man, I

1585
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 5: hear that stuff a practice all the time. Put on

1586
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 5: some Frank Sinatra. So he's got like that first song.

1587
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 5: It's a duet, let's say I love you, I forget.

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01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 5: I don't know what the title was. But then as

1590
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 5: he was walking, I make sure you lead that on

1591
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 5: for all the rookies too. So it's just kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: He's a cool dude. I like, I like my car.

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Speaker 4: I thought you shoes on, yea, he toal, I thought

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Speaker 18: I think you have to have a starting point, so

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Speaker 18: there's going to be a way to speak, a learning

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Speaker 18: of the language. We talked about that, you know, maybe

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Speaker 18: a couple months ago, and then really it's just going

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 18: to be about giving them some things to go out

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 18: and do on the practice field and then learning what

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01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 18: they do well, how much they can process what style

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01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 18: we should play, And I've always kind of believe that

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,480
Speaker 18: the players.

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Speaker 1: Will dictate what that ends up being. We don't know

1648
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: that today. I can tell you that right now, there's

1649
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot we still haven't done.

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 18: For the first time, we're just getting into third now,

1651
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 18: we haven't got into the red zone. I mean, there's

1652
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 18: so many other situational things that we haven't even touched

1653
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 18: on yet. So we're still in the learning phase of

1654
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 18: our of our offense. Guys getting great opportunities to go

1655
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 18: out and I feel like at this time of the year, Uh,

1656
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 18: it's either a good play or we're gonna learn from it.

1657
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 18: So there's a positive result either direction. And that's the

1658
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 18: kind of mindset that we're taking. How long do you

1659
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 18: take to Josh A long time? You know, we we

1660
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 18: know when the games start. Look if if it could

1661
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 18: be done by now, you know, we would snap our

1662
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 18: fingers and have it be finished.

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: But I would I would say that's been true.

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01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 18: But for every season that I've ever been a part

1665
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 18: of a team and an offense, it's just whether you're

1666
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 18: coming back with a bunch of guys that are returning

1667
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 18: and they kind of know it or you're not. There's

1668
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 18: always a period of relearning and recommitting yourself to the

1669
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 18: little things, the details that it takes to run a

1670
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 18: good play, let alone a good you know, drive, or

1671
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 18: a good practice or a good game. There's so many

1672
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 18: little things that everybody needs to do. There's a trust

1673
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 18: that's being built right now on the field. The more

1674
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 18: we do well, the more guys can trust each other.

1675
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 18: And uh, we're continuing to focus on those things and

1676
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 18: emphasize the kind of identity that we want to create here.

1677
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 17: Hell eons has been different thing as you guys have thought,

1678
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 17: how concerned you about that missed the time?

1679
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: And what is he missing right now?

1680
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 3: You just mentioned you know this is it's an important

1681
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 3: time to kind of developed that together news.

1682
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1683
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: I again, it's a voluntary part of the year.

1684
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 12: We know that.

1685
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 18: I don't I don't know if we've ever had perfect

1686
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 18: attendance at these things in general. As a coach, selfishly

1687
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 18: love you love it when they're all here because you

1688
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 18: feel like you got them all in the classroom and

1689
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 18: all on the field and all the rest of it. Uh,

1690
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 18: he's here today, and we're excited to have an opportunity

1691
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 18: to work with the guys that are out here and

1692
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 18: available to us. So I know he's staying up on

1693
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 18: the information and the material, and there's so many, so

1694
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 18: many things and opportunities for us to teach all our

1695
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 18: guys going forward between the rest of the practices here

1696
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 18: in the spring and then going into the summer, and

1697
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 18: and you know, the many days we have before we

1698
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 18: actually kicked the ball off in September.

1699
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: So I'm not concerned about Steph in that regard.

1700
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: Josh, how was a drake ack commanding to your system

1701
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: thus far? And we'll spend sort of your biggest pitching

1702
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: on the point with.

1703
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 16: Him in the spring.

1704
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 18: I mean, he's doing really well. He's very smart, works

1705
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 18: really hard. I think the quarterback room in general is

1706
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 18: really really good in terms of putting the time and

1707
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 18: effort in at this point in time of the year,

1708
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 18: you know, And and like I said, we either make

1709
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 18: a good play or we learn from the result. And

1710
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 18: so sometimes as a coach, and nobody wants to hear this,

1711
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 18: but sometimes as a coach, the negative results can actually

1712
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 18: be your best teachers because you have a play where

1713
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 18: something didn't necessarily go your way or the right way,

1714
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 18: and then you learn from it. And then the biggest

1715
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 18: key for us as we go forward is when we

1716
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 18: learn from a mistake, is can we go out there

1717
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 18: the next day and not repeat the same error. And

1718
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 18: so I think he's doing a really good job of

1719
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 18: digesting the information, processing the corrections when there is a

1720
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 18: correction to be made, and they go out there with

1721
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 18: a great attitude, mindset the next day and excited.

1722
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm excited for today. Say time time he's been repeating

1723
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: any error? Not many, not many?

1724
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 18: Yeah, he's no, he's you know, he does a generally

1725
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 18: he does a really good job of listening to it,

1726
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 18: and then when you go out there the next time,

1727
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 18: you know, and you see the same kind of look

1728
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 18: or the same problem that the defense present to you

1729
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 18: that was presented previously. Generally speaking, he's a quick study

1730
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 18: on that. And that's a good thing for a young player.

1731
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 4: You've been on this in this league for twenty flast years.

1732
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 23: You know the expectations in May, June, July, August, when

1733
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 23: teams and people Whitecott start saying, this guy's going to

1734
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 23: have a great year, that's going to happen with Brake

1735
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 23: because of the improvements you guys have made on.

1736
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: The field, in the sidelines, etc.

1737
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 23: And because he's a second year player, how do you

1738
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 23: prepare him for what could be extremely lofty expectations that

1739
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 23: people are going to expect a return with.

1740
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 18: I think if I know him very well, which I'm

1741
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 18: learning more and more about him every single day, he's

1742
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 18: going to place high expectations on himself.

1743
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: I know that for sure.

1744
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 18: We're certainly going to want to try to get the

1745
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 18: best result out of our quarterback position every play that

1746
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 18: we can, and I think that's all we can control.

1747
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 18: We can't really control outside expectations. We're certainly going to

1748
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 18: try to do the very best we can with our opportunities.

1749
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 18: And I see a guy that has a great attitude

1750
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 18: and mindset about coming out here and trying to be

1751
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 18: the best version of himself that he can be. And

1752
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 18: I know that that's what he can control. It's what

1753
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 18: we can control as coaches, and hopefully we meet our expectations,

1754
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 18: which will eventually meet yours.

1755
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 17: In terms of the offense overall, how have you films

1756
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 17: about the unit's ability to learn for the mistakes and

1757
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 17: continue to grow and how helpful has it been having

1758
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 17: some veterans who've been in the system maybe.

1759
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: Helps some better invests.

1760
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean it's again, I think the mistakes are

1761
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 18: are opportunities. That's how I look at him at this

1762
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 18: time of the year. You know, if we make them now,

1763
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 18: you hope that we learn from them, grow from them,

1764
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 18: and then eventually don't make them when when they start

1765
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 18: keeping score. So I think the veteran guys that have

1766
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 18: had some experience in our system have have been very helpful.

1767
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: You know, they're working hard.

1768
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 18: They give some little bits of advice here and there

1769
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 18: when when it's necessary or applicable. But everybody's going out

1770
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 18: there trying to do the best they can with their opportunities.

1771
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 18: Everybody's getting reps right now, which is the great part

1772
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 18: about this year, about this time of the year, and

1773
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 18: go out there and make some good plays and if

1774
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 18: we make a mistake, we learn from it and you

1775
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 18: get better.

1776
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

1777
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 5: History.

1778
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 9: That wasn't a trick play, by the way, that's a

1779
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 9: that's a pass to your full back.

1780
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 4: It's a little bit of it, a little bit of it.

1781
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 5: Not a trick, of course, it is.

1782
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: It's a pass to a defensive player. No, just like

1783
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 4: it's a past. Just like the Bills play. It's not

1784
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 4: a trick play through the ball to the tight end,

1785
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: but it was a tackle. It's a trick play.

1786
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 3: Yes, this guy was in the game as a full

1787
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: back and the.

1788
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 4: Tight end, Dawkins was the tight end on that.

1789
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: So if Devlin was, if it was Devil, would that

1790
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: have been a trick He's a.

1791
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 5: Fullback, so is the land and Roberts.

1792
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so the so the Bills to play it

1793
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: wasn't was it was a tight end.

1794
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a trick of.

1795
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 4: Course it was, of course, But that was that was

1796
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 4: the guy playing out of position.

1797
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 5: That you're through Rob's place all the time as a

1798
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 5: full back, and you don't think the guy in my

1799
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 5: buffalo is the extra tackle all the time.

1800
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: This is not a trick play. It's not a trick play.

1801
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 5: So no answer the question. The guy in buffalo is

1802
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 5: not the extra tackle.

1803
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: They had too eligible tackles on that play. That was

1804
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 2: a trick play.

1805
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: Of course.

1806
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 4: It was a trick play, just like this one was.

1807
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 5: Yes, this was your fullback.

1808
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: He's always eligible.

1809
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 5: Okay, So he has to wait a minute, he has

1810
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 5: to report is eligible because of his number. What is

1811
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 5: the definition of his number?

1812
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 4: What is the definition of a trick play to you?

1813
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: Yes, razzle dazzle, you know that type of thing.

1814
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 4: There have so many rules I can't eveners.

1815
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 5: That's another great moment from.

1816
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: I know I was right because Eric was on the

1817
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: other side of the park.

1818
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 3: I'm on your side.

1819
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: Landon roberts had been established as a full back.

1820
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 6: Was that the fullback is always always eligible, so was

1821
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 6: the tight end? Yeah, so when a tackle is playing

1822
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 6: tight end, he's.

1823
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 4: Always he's always out.

1824
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 2: I understand.

1825
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: But in this it was a argument or no, this

1826
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 4: is the same thing.

1827
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 2: In this case, a.

1828
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 9: Landon Roberts had been established as a full back. If

1829
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 9: you had scouted in the way.

1830
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 4: In the extra tackle, was a tight end has established his.

1831
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: So maybe that's not trickery either.

1832
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 9: Okay, So if you said scouted the Patriots like, oh,

1833
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 9: if the Landon robertson as a full back, they throwed

1834
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 9: them they you know, that's not a trick once.

1835
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: It's not a trick once.

1836
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 3: Paul is right about that.

1837
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 8: But I agree with Fred because he was playing full

1838
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 8: back regularly and it wasn't like a tricky formation or

1839
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 8: anything like that it was. He leaked out in the flat,

1840
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 8: nobody covered him because he was a linebacker playing full

1841
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 8: back and he was wide open.

1842
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 6: My argument was that it's either a trick player or

1843
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 6: it's not. There's no differentiation between like the tackle is

1844
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 6: the third tackle, like like Nate Soldier, was that not

1845
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 6: a trick play when he caught the touchdown and I Championship?

1846
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 4: If if you say no, then I'm fine with saying

1847
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 4: that that this is indeed.

1848
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 8: Them Sure I would say that that's more of a

1849
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 8: trick play, but that was that's mostly because they're going unbalanced,

1850
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 8: and like it's a formation like this was.

1851
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: This was a regular formation.

1852
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of Tricky's three.

1853
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 4: That's what I think. There's similarity.

1854
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: Also, was playing kind of the same position he usually plays.

1855
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 6: Right, doesn't usually play full back. He played like fifteen

1856
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 6: plays a fullback.

1857
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 5: He threw it to him once.

1858
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: That's a lot fifteen plays.

1859
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: He played a lot of sort of tackles.

1860
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 6: But the third tackle with it, you don't think they

1861
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 6: did it fifteen times last year with a third tackle?

1862
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, tackle eligible right right.

1863
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 4: And they throw it to you once, but you're out

1864
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 4: there a lot.

1865
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different.

1866
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: Well, this is one of those times where we agree.

1867
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 8: I I would say that also a Landon Roberts uh

1868
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 8: delivered one of the best quotes of all time for

1869
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 8: any page. Yeah, but he was about to run through

1870
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 8: my m effing face one time because I asked him

1871
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 8: about playing full back and he did not like the

1872
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 8: line of questioning.

1873
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: He did not like, he did not want to I'm

1874
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: a linebacker. Don't ever refer to me as a fallback

1875
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: at so.

1876
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1877
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 3: But I was like, bro, you're doing great at fullback.

1878
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 3: He just kind of touchdown.

1879
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1880
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I had a great.

1881
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 8: Relationship with him, but that I remember being in those

1882
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 8: scrums where he was like my position out literally like

1883
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 8: stopped calling me, like, don't ever refer to me as

1884
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 8: the fullback.

1885
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, you're kind of killing it.

1886
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: They like, what do you mean? You got to touch

1887
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: the ball?

1888
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 4: That's a good thing.

1889
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Funny I missed a lot not being in the

1890
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 6: locker room when we started doing the pre and post games.

1891
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 4: I missed a lot of that.

1892
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 8: Just for the record, Landa. Roberts great guy. I'm not

1893
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 8: I don't want to get the wrong He was great.

1894
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 8: You know, he's from He went to Houston. He what

1895
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 8: an unbelievable rundown. He gave us where to go in Houston.

1896
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know before that Super Bowl he was great, nice,

1897
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 8: really nice guy.

1898
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 3: Marcus Jones does not his and Landa Roberson a tense guy.

1899
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 8: But Marcus Jones also like when you ask him, like

1900
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 8: you ever think about playing receiver full time, He'll immediately

1901
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 8: shut that down too.

1902
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I'm a corner. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

1903
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 2: Shut your mouth. I eight five five pass five hundred

1904
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: is the hotline. Let's go to it. Dominiques in New York.

1905
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: What's up, Dominique, y'all?

1906
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 15: How you doing?

1907
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: All right?

1908
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 12: They're good, all right.

1909
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 19: First and foremost, there's a little bit of soap talk already.

1910
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 19: I got to stay and recommend to anyone if you're

1911
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 19: still using the loofer or body strip or whatever, make

1912
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 19: sure it's silicone. It works perfectly.

1913
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 9: Well.

1914
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 19: I can't get so much in the soaf totate because

1915
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 19: I'm like a body watch guy, so mesa man phenomenal

1916
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 19: doctor Burner's phenomenal phenomenon in.

1917
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 15: That you know that's that?

1918
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Okay silic?

1919
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 19: Yes, I gotta try, but you're just a quick question.

1920
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 19: So but y'all, I know the NFL has a has

1921
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 19: awards for obviously offensive player of the year, defensive player

1922
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 19: of the Year. I think they have the Big Suckets

1923
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 19: Awards for the pros as well. I know they do

1924
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 19: it in college. Would you like to see other awards

1925
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 19: similar to the Big Buckets awards, like applied to the

1926
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 19: sensor backfield, running backs, wide receivers, et cetera, et cetera.

1927
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 19: Or do you think that would like kind of make

1928
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 19: it a little bit too crowded in terms of wards

1929
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 19: giving out the of the year and then just the

1930
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 19: last point, Alex is great. This raised my favorite album

1931
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 19: for the squad, and I'll.

1932
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 9: Take it off, all right, thanks Domini. So expanding the

1933
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 9: award categories in the pros so they added a.

1934
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,959
Speaker 8: Protector of the Year award, but often single individual offensive

1935
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 8: line award, which is I think more than enough.

1936
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: Like I think if we do every position, it's getting

1937
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 3: a little crazy.

1938
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 9: In college when they have like the Dick Buckis Award,

1939
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 9: is there also like a committee and a dinner and

1940
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 9: a way to make money off of that too.

1941
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, And like there's like the Mackie Award for the

1942
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 8: tight ends, right, the Billet and cop for the receivers and.

1943
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: Every position.

1944
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 3: Quarterback one. I forget what it's called.

1945
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 4: Is it Doak Walker or one of those?

1946
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah, it might be probably not.

1947
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 5: I agree with Evan generally, I would say i'd be

1948
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 5: opening like a Kicker award. I think that'd be kind

1949
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 5: of fun.

1950
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 4: Like Kicker, I think there are too many awards.

1951
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: Pull back.

1952
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: What would you pull back on?

1953
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,839
Speaker 5: Offensive and Defensive Player.

1954
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 4: Of the Year. What would I eliminate in the NFL

1955
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 4: come Back the Year?

1956
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you coming back?

1957
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 4: What are you coming back from?

1958
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 5: Well, that one's like war.

1959
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 2: I think.

1960
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 11: I can't say.

1961
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: I can't somebody went.

1962
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 4: Rocky if it's coming back round, right.

1963
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 8: The issue with that award is that it it some

1964
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 8: people get nominated that are really most improved and not

1965
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 8: necessarily comeback. So NBA has the most Improved Player Award,

1966
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 8: which I think might be more what the NFL is

1967
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 8: going for, But they just call it the Comeback Player

1968
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 8: of the Year, and usually it's somebody coming off a

1969
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 8: major injury as bounce back.

1970
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 5: Smith should have got an award came back complete football

1971
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 5: and a mangled deform lower leg like that that almost died.

1972
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, guys, I don't care for offensive and defensive Rookie

1973
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 8: of the Year.

1974
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 3: There's one. To me, there's one Rookie of the Year.

1975
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 8: I like, like, I don't I don't under stand that

1976
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 8: why we differentiate offense defense.

1977
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 3: It's like m v P. Right, there's not offensive m

1978
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: VP and defensive MVP. There's just m v P. Yeah,

1979
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: So like, I don't know why that award is split

1980
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 3: into two.

1981
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 8: But I do like the offensive line award because they're

1982
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 8: never going to win any of these things, So like

1983
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 8: have award that just recognizes offensive line because they're never

1984
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 8: winning Rookie of the Year.

1985
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 3: They're winning MVP.

1986
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 4: Because they're never going to be in line for any

1987
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 4: of those awards, so give them an award.

1988
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 10: But I think you could also argue that it'd be

1989
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 10: way more rare for a defensive player to win Defensive

1990
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 10: Rookie of the Year if it's not separated.

1991
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 11: That's like it would just go defall to offensive.

1992
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah that's flashy, Yeah you're gonna get all right.

1993
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 4: No, see, I don't know about that.

1994
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: You can get a DePoy without leading.

1995
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: Maybe like a corner if he has like a picks

1996
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:48,759
Speaker 3: and pick sixes.

1997
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 4: Like I think a defensive player could have been the

1998
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year.

1999
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying you would have to agree,

2000
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 5: like m VP would be hard to do.

2001
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: London is in Great Barrington. What's up London?

2002
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 24: He know, guys, Yeah, no, no fight, I mean today,

2003
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 24: you know, I mean, it's too beautiful to be angry.

2004
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 19: So yeah, but I just wanted told you guys a

2005
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 19: little bit about the wide.

2006
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 24: Receiver room, Like how do you guys see that shaken out?

2007
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 24: You know, how many players do you think they're gonna carry?

2008
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 24: Because I don't know Evan. I don't know if you

2009
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 24: followed Pat stuff, but he's a really good follow Like

2010
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 24: he just guys, I don't know if he's a.

2011
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 15: Conned theologist or what, but this guy really gets into

2012
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 15: like the you know, the disp body mechanics of each

2013
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 15: players at that. Yeah, just to shout out another guy

2014
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 15: in the community, you know what I mean.

2015
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gest that, you know, he would be

2016
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: running but.

2017
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 15: But yeah, he said something about Shawn Boobie or whatever that. Yeah,

2018
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 15: he played, but he's like better at leveraging going inside,

2019
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 15: like on flats and stuff, you know, like he's like

2020
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 15: a poor man's landry on the Browns or like Juju

2021
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 15: Smith Schusta, if you will, But as one of the

2022
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 15: how you see that shaking out? Like especially with like

2023
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 15: he had Polk And what's the other guy that we.

2024
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 7: Just picked up, the free agent Holland Bill?

2025
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 15: He had Holland's on the starting off on the pub,

2026
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 15: you know, and could I just wanted to wondering, how'd

2027
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 15: you guys see that shaking out? Kendrick I'm Warris to

2028
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 15: Kendrick Bourne. I think I think he would be good

2029
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 15: because he had a great yield.

2030
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 7: How many is he goes? All right, just curious about

2031
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 7: your opinions.

2032
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 15: On that guy.

2033
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks London and Great Barrington. I think

2034
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 2: it's all on.

2035
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 9: Threw me off because I said, okay, his name is London,

2036
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 9: but it's from Great Barrington, Rhode Island. But then he

2037
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 9: came on and he had like a UK accent, so.

2038
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 11: Could be Great Barrington Mass to.

2039
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 4: Mass.

2040
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 2: How many great great parenton Mass but only one is great?

2041
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: How do you feel the wide receiver room will shake out?

2042
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: I think it starts with Health million dollars.

2043
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I starts with Health with Diggs because I think

2044
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 5: that's a spot that if he starts on pup, they'll

2045
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 5: have an extra spot to carry someone else.

2046
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 9: So you really have to look at like, how will

2047
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 9: it look in November, because I think he'll keep these guys,

2048
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,440
Speaker 9: could start on pup that he mentioned.

2049
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely a possibility.

2050
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 11: Makes a decision a little easier for them, and.

2051
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 6: I feel come off as really disrespect The only thing

2052
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 6: I really concerned myself with is Digs is if he

2053
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 6: is good enough to be their best I don't care

2054
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 6: who the other five are. If he's not, then they

2055
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 6: have trouble. That room is not good enough.

2056
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think there's always a there's a

2057
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 5: place for Pop. I think there's definitely a place for

2058
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 5: for Polk.

2059
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.

2060
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 5: I think he's trending towards being ready.

2061
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that.

2062
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I think Kyle Williams is a lock.

2063
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Kyle Williams and Diggs are going to be on

2064
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 8: the team. Whether Dig starts on Pop will find out.

2065
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 8: But I think everything else is That's what I was

2066
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 8: going to say.

2067
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 6: This is what I like about it is what we

2068
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 6: talked about last week is let them compete and let

2069
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 6: it be survival of the fittest, and if Booty is

2070
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 6: better than Born, then he stays. If he's not, then

2071
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 6: Bowen stays. Or if they're both better than Polk and Baker,

2072
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 6: then those two stay. And like I can make an

2073
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 6: argument for any of those players. And we talked a

2074
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 6: little bit about Douglas and Chisholm last week. If Chisholm's

2075
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 6: better than Douglas, keep Chisholm.

2076
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm a little disappointed in how we've seen limited

2077
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 5: three practices, but just a little bit disappointing Jabon Baker.

2078
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 5: I was hoping that maybe he'd turn a page and that,

2079
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 5: you know, so he's still got some time, but it's

2080
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 5: it's it's tough. They realized there's twelve guys in the room.

2081
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 5: Six probably are going to stay. I think Mac Collins

2082
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 5: is probably more of a lock than than some people think.

2083
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 5: I think they have a specific purpose for him.

2084
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Is it one of your guys, Paul? I think maybe

2085
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 2: Gilardi said that he could be.

2086
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 6: I've had a couple of people tell me that they

2087
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 6: have him as a surprise cut candidate. Mac Collins, I'd

2088
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 6: be I'd be genuinely surprised, and I'm not making fun

2089
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 6: of that. Well, that's the you don't say a surprise

2090
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,879
Speaker 6: cut is you know, John Giles, that's not a surprise cut.

2091
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: Right, But I would just be I'm aduced with Matt Collins.

2092
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 8: He might not be one of the five or six

2093
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 8: best guys, but I think his leadership and his like

2094
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 8: veteran experience is something that they genuinely surprised, right, so

2095
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 8: they if it's close between like him and you know,

2096
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 8: one of the draft picks from last year or something

2097
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 8: like just having the veteran in the room and the

2098
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 8: adult in the room by just I feel like that's

2099
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 8: why he's here. He's kind of here, like no offense

2100
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 8: to his skill set or anything, but he's kind of

2101
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 8: here to to babysit a lot of these.

2102
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 6: So we'll see how it works out. We'll have a

2103
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 6: chance to watch, you know, the entirety of training camp.

2104
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:51,839
Speaker 6: But just spitballing Diggs, Williams, Douglas Booty.

2105
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 5: That's the four.

2106
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 3: I would say, that's you know, that's Matt.

2107
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 6: Collins and has five chishm is six, So no room

2108
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 6: for Baker Baker Born.

2109
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're all okay.

2110
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Now I know I'm going to go.

2111
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 5: I'll go down with a ship on Polk. I think

2112
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 5: he's gonna make it. I think he'll I totally respect

2113
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 5: the debate on that.

2114
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 6: Another thing that I've been hearing a lot, and I

2115
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 6: heard this on my shows as I was driving home

2116
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 6: last week. A lot of people they don't have room

2117
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 6: for Polk on the roster. So I don't know if

2118
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 6: this is coming from inside.

2119
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2120
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 6: People are just like throwing it out there because I

2121
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 6: think it's easy to watch these Ota practices and Polk

2122
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 6: isn't physically ready to play yet, so you put him

2123
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 6: on the back burn and you say he's not going

2124
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 6: to make it.

2125
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 4: That's not fair. He hasn't really practiced yet.

2126
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 6: But I there's too many people telling me that they

2127
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 6: don't think Polk is a lock for the roster for

2128
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 6: me not to think I don't think.

2129
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 5: He's a lot.

2130
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a lock.

2131
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 5: I just my opinion. I think he's going to have

2132
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 5: a good camp and he's going to make the team

2133
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 5: and he's going to contribute.

2134
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 25: I look at it, well, I think if if like

2135
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 25: I'd be, that's coming from it, that he has a

2136
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 25: good camp, it makes these no no that Polk wasn't

2137
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 25: a rabel guy last year, like usually your second round pick,

2138
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 25: you give him a couple of years, and I think

2139
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 25: those people are saying Rabel has no connection to him.

2140
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he'll make the team.

2141
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd be stunned if he's really I don't really

2142
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 6: good he's going to make the team.

2143
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 11: And not only to that point you just made Fred.

2144
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 10: Not only does he have no connection to him, but

2145
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 10: you can go back and see how he kind of

2146
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 10: handled adversity in his rookie year and I mean left

2147
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 10: a lot to be desired in my opinion.

2148
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm giving him a chance again. I I mean,

2149
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 5: I look at it. What skill sets do these guys

2150
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 5: bring to the team, And in a perfect world, I

2151
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 5: think you want Jalen Polk's skill set on this team.

2152
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 5: I think he's one of the bigger, stronger receivers that

2153
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 5: they have. Now, again, he hadn't d Alex's point. He

2154
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 5: didn't live up to that last year. We saw a

2155
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 5: little bit of it in training camp. But I think

2156
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 5: that's a great player to debate about. I mean, you

2157
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 5: can say, I don't think. I'm not saying he's a lock.

2158
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 15: I'm not.

2159
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: You know, I don't.

2160
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 5: I don't other than the four guys you said, But

2161
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 5: I do believe in his skill set, and I think

2162
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 5: he has something to offer.

2163
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 9: This discreper Anthony from Cape Coral right said, player one

2164
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 9: has thirty seven catches, four hundred and eighty one yards,

2165
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 9: two touchdowns. The player is Nico Collins. Player two has

2166
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 9: forty three catches, five hundred and eighty nine yards and

2167
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 9: three touchdowns. The player is Kayshawn Bouody. My point for

2168
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 9: this is all the people that want Booty gone, he

2169
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,919
Speaker 9: has shown progress. Why would we not let him continue competing.

2170
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 9: It's possible he could continue to develop into a more

2171
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 9: productive receiver.

2172
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: Not saying he's Nico Collins or what year with those

2173
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. It doesn't say.

2174
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 8: Nico Collins early on in his career at his slower burn.

2175
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 8: But year two there's there's Dagus Mills quarterback. And there's

2176
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 8: also different compare like the situations in the rooms were different,

2177
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 8: Like kay Kasehon Boody had the opportunity, you know, right

2178
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 8: out of the gate, whereas I don't think that was

2179
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 8: the case for Nico Collins with Houston.

2180
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 3: You know, Nico Collins kind of had.

2181
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 8: To earn a role, whereas last year that's like you

2182
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 8: look around in the wide receiver room and it's not

2183
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 8: much competition, right, So, but I hear what he's saying

2184
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 8: on like, I don't want to give up on Kijan

2185
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 8: Booty either, But I don't necessarily look at Keisean Booty

2186
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 8: and say, well, he's going to take another step and

2187
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 8: all of a sudden he's going to be a thousand guy.

2188
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 3: This is kind of what he is.

2189
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 4: The more I see Booty, the more he grows on me.

2190
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's I think he's really making the most of

2191
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 11: OTA's right now.

2192
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 5: He Yeah.

2193
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 9: I just don't.

2194
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 6: Collins thing to me falls flat. They're not They're not

2195
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 6: similar in any way, like they're not really it's easy to.

2196
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Pull the stats.

2197
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 5: I mean, and Nico Collins had that breakout game here, right,

2198
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 5: was that in the preseason where all of a sudden

2199
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 5: he just seemed like it was really starting to click

2200
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 5: for him like that Maybe that.

2201
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: Was just for me, but that's what we're going on.

2202
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 15: Like c J.

2203
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 6: Stroud came in and all of a sudden he became

2204
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 6: a reson game. I wonder how that works. But Booty

2205
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 6: had Drake May, Yeah, yeah.

2206
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 8: And Booty is the most of the Booty and and

2207
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 8: Drake May I think have developed a pretty nice chemistry,

2208
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 8: which is one thing that's in his favor, you know,

2209
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 8: as a holdover from last year, and they have a

2210
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 8: little bit of a rapport. He runs the routes, Drake

2211
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 8: May likes to throw you know, out on the outside,

2212
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 8: whether it's the go routes or the corners or things

2213
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 8: like that, so they have a nice feel to their

2214
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 8: game together. I'm not ready to give up on Keijh.

2215
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 8: On Booty, I just would say five hundred and six

2216
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 8: hundred yards is kind of where I think his career

2217
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 8: is going to be. Like, I just don't necessarily think

2218
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 8: that there's another step for him, but maybe there will be,

2219
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 8: and I would keep him on the team as of now.

2220
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 8: I just think, you know, with Jalen Polk, it's not

2221
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 8: even health. I just there's just no precedent for having

2222
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 8: the rookie season that he had and then being good.

2223
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's put it this way.

2224
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 9: If if it's Digs and Kyle Williams and Booty has

2225
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 9: five hundred six hundred yards, that's great.

2226
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.

2227
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 9: Right, let me know what Digs and Well, no, then

2228
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 9: you're one and two and they have one and two

2229
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 9: receiver numbers.

2230
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 4: So you think Williams and rookie Year is going to

2231
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 4: be more than six hundred yards.

2232
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe, Yeah, I don't know.

2233
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 8: If it'll be that good, But like I always think

2234
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 8: about it, like you know, with Booty, you know, can

2235
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 8: he be Dante's stall Worth to you know the rest

2236
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 8: of the group, like in the seven right where he's

2237
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 8: really he's truly the third or fourth guy, but he's

2238
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 8: out there and when he's open, he gets.

2239
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 3: The ball and he makes plays, makes them plays like that.

2240
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,480
Speaker 4: That's how I view Booty, Gaffney Stalwart.

2241
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he might even be the better one.

2242
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 4: Those guys were good value.

2243
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Digson Williams. Digson Williams are the only two that

2244
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 5: I think are one hundred percent absolute locks. And I

2245
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 5: would hear other comments on any of the other receivers.

2246
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 5: Doesn't mean I don't like Booty. I think I grew

2247
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 5: with Paul. He's really came on in this cam. Like

2248
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 5: Paul said, let him compete, Yeah, no, survive be injury

2249
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 5: you don't see coming.

2250
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 11: Let him say, have any inclinations. What Polk's even dealing

2251
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 11: with right now?

2252
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 3: It's his shoulder and.

2253
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 5: He got in a little bit with a yellow pinion

2254
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 5: into one of the team periods.

2255
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: So I think he's trending towards being ready.

2256
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not even like I said, it's not the

2257
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 8: injury like I think he'll be. He'll have his opportunity

2258
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 8: to try to make the team and make.

2259
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 3: A push and and all that.

2260
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 8: I just, you know, just I've looked at the numbers

2261
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 8: and like a guy that catches twelve passes.

2262
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 5: And a.

2263
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 9: Last year was an abject failure for him, but it

2264
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 9: was there was something going on and maybe he can

2265
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 9: turn it around.

2266
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can't.

2267
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 8: I'm just saying he would be an absolute anomaly to

2268
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 8: go from the production he had last year to a

2269
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 8: productive NFL player.

2270
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 3: And I don't know if they have the time, but

2271
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 3: along those.

2272
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 5: Lines, like he's an absolute anomaly already for me, in

2273
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 5: the production he had in camp to absolutely doing nothing.

2274
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 5: So I don't know, it's just it's weird.

2275
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 6: I watched the Taekwon Thornton. Yeah, I watched the same

2276
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 6: thing with Tyekwon Thornton when he was a rookie. He

2277
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 6: he was very productive campressed with.

2278
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 2: So hard running, but he didn't catch a lot of

2279
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 2: balls in camp.

2280
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, caught everything thrown his way.

2281
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 6: He didn't catch the four yard passes that Polpe did,

2282
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 6: but he went down the field and car I wasn't.

2283
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 11: Impressed that taekwon to It's like a thing of physics, like,

2284
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 11: how can you be that skinny?

2285
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2286
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just telling you. As a rookie in

2287
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 4: training camp, he looked a part.

2288
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 6: I did not call him a bust based on his

2289
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 6: rookie year, and I just I wasn't overly impressed with

2290
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 6: Pop's training camp. Last year was another one that I was,

2291
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 6: you know, off in the ether, the old guy yelling

2292
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 6: into the you know, the.

2293
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 4: Wilderness that no one was listening to.

2294
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 6: I would agree with Evan. I'm not telling I don't

2295
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 6: predict the future. I can't tell you what's going to happen.

2296
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you based on what I've seen, I

2297
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 6: don't see the ability. That's why i'd be surprised if

2298
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 6: he was overly productive. I don't see like, not to

2299
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 6: go all analytic, I don't see a plus skill set.

2300
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: What is it?

2301
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 4: What is it that he does?

2302
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 2: Really?

2303
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 4: What It's like the Red Sox right now? What did

2304
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 4: a Red Sox do well?

2305
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 12: Nothing?

2306
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 4: They do nothing? But what.

2307
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 6: I thought he was gonna be sort of like a

2308
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 6: physical possession kind of receiver. He started dropping the ball

2309
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 6: all the time, so I'm not even sure he does

2310
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 6: that well. I don't think he runs away from people.

2311
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 6: I don't think he runs great routes, and I don't

2312
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 6: think he has a great attitude. So I'd be very,

2313
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 6: very surprised if he turns out to be a productive player.

2314
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 8: The separation stuff in college was the big question if

2315
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 8: he was gonna his success or failure was going to

2316
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 8: hang on whether he could get open at this level,

2317
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 8: you know, with his speed and with his athleticism, and

2318
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 8: that that piece of it didn't necessarily translate. So now

2319
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 8: everything is finishing through contact at the catch point, right,

2320
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 8: He's going to be in crowds, he's going to have

2321
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 8: coverage on him, and can that skill set translate the

2322
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 8: hands and the play strength at the catchpoint, And when

2323
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 8: it didn't as a rookie, like to Paul's point, that

2324
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 8: was just worrisome. So if that's not going to be

2325
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 8: his calling card is the strong hands and the ability

2326
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 8: to box guys out and things like that, and he's

2327
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 8: not going to separate, you know, then how is he

2328
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 8: going to be ultra productive in the NFL. I'm not

2329
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 8: trying like I'm not trying to bury the guy.

2330
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 4: But I just.

2331
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 5: Right. But last year they said to themselves that they're

2332
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 5: thrusting him into being like the guy, and he couldn't

2333
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 5: handle it, so it mentally fell apart. I think Fred's thing.

2334
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 5: If Diggs and Williams are productive, you don't have to

2335
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 5: worry about him running away from guys. He can work underneath.

2336
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 5: I like him in a call implementary role more than

2337
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 5: I like Booie.

2338
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 6: I would I would worry about his mentality if he

2339
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 6: was that. I think he thinks he's much better than that.

2340
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 6: I worry about him, But.

2341
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 5: I also think you're basing that. I think you're basing

2342
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 5: that on him, saying I think I have the best

2343
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 5: hands in the NFL, and and that you catch a

2344
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 5: rookie in a bad moment, trying to stay confident, and

2345
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 5: I believe in myself and I can do what I

2346
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 5: want and you want, and you can take that as that,

2347
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 5: or you can take it out. This guy's head's in

2348
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 5: the clouds and he has no idea what he's doing.

2349
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 5: I took it that now, this is a rookie kid

2350
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 5: who's not who isn't quite polished. He's having tough times

2351
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 5: right now.

2352
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 2: And he misspoke a little bit.

2353
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 5: I'm not holding that against Parabot.

2354
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 4: Was like a one time thing that he misspoke a

2355
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 4: little bit.

2356
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 6: I think he had had his feet down, he said

2357
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 6: I I never even put on a game uniform. He

2358
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 6: told the media that he didn't need the fans with

2359
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 6: them because they're not with them. If you're not with them,

2360
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 6: we don't need you, Like he rubbed me the wrong

2361
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 6: way before.

2362
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 2: Before.

2363
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 10: The first thing for me was when he undermined the

2364
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 10: head coach. When the head coach was trying to smooth

2365
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 10: over take the pressure off him. There was some undermined

2366
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 10: mayo and it's like your coach is trying to keep

2367
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 10: you a foot here with the media.

2368
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 11: Just go along with it, don't.

2369
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 6: And I also want to be fair because there are

2370
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 6: things that worry me about Booty in that regard too.

2371
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 4: And he had another one.

2372
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 6: That I thought showed a lack of sort of awareness

2373
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 6: last week in the aftermath of the Digs thing. I

2374
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 6: think he spoke that day and he told us all, yeah,

2375
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 6: Diggs hasn't been around much. I don't think that he

2376
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,759
Speaker 6: should have said that, like something I just I worry

2377
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 6: a little bit about the mentality.

2378
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 2: Now.

2379
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 6: The reason I'm okay with Booty it is because I

2380
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 6: think he's produced. Yea, so he might not always talk

2381
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 6: the way I think that the maybe it's I've been

2382
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 6: ingrained and listening to Patriots talk over the years. Well,

2383
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 6: Polk has sort of put his foot in his mouth

2384
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:55,560
Speaker 6: a few times, and he hasn't produced. You know, he

2385
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 6: insisted that he caught the ball in San Francisco, he didn't.

2386
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 6: He insisted that he caught the touchdown in my against Miami,

2387
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 6: he didn't. I think Alex brings up a great point

2388
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 6: about Gerard sort of saying, you know, you're kind of

2389
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 6: like mentally he's fighting it a little bit.

2390
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 4: No, not like I don't. I don't have mental problems.

2391
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 4: Like there were a lot of examples.

2392
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 6: Of him showing the lack of awareness and maturity last year,

2393
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 6: not just the one time where where he claims he

2394
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 6: had the best hands in the league.

2395
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 10: And it goes back to you, this is part of

2396
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 10: why mac collins is here this year. Like, maybe with

2397
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 10: better leadership, none of these issues maturity.

2398
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 8: But I don't think that you know that none of

2399
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 8: the reasons why I am concerned about Polka's foot, Paul

2400
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 8: is necessarily saying, I just we knew coming into the

2401
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 8: league that he wasn't going to be a great separator.

2402
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 8: And if his hands are not what's carrying him and

2403
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 8: his play strength and his physicality is and what carrying.

2404
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 3: Him, then what's carrying him?

2405
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 12: Right?

2406
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 8: And like that, that would any player that you have

2407
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 8: to have a carrying trade, like what's the one thing

2408
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 8: that you do better than everybody else that makes you

2409
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 8: can hang your hat on and say that this is

2410
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 8: how I'm going to succeed in the league. And if

2411
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 8: that comes back around, if he goes back to playing

2412
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 8: the way he was at Washington in terms of the

2413
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 8: physicality and the hands and all that good stuff, then

2414
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 8: he could definitely start to come on.

2415
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 3: I just I haven't seen that yet as well.

2416
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just to be clear, the other stuff that

2417
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 6: worries me is in the scenario that Mike sort of unfolded,

2418
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 6: if all these guys come in at the top and

2419
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 6: they push him down, I don't know if he's a

2420
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 6: guy that would, like Matt Collins, is perfectly content to

2421
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 6: go out there and catch the one target he gets

2422
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 6: a game. Yeah, I'm not sure. Polk fits that kind

2423
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 6: of mold. I think he thinks he's more than that,

2424
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 6: and I would worry about him. If he's the fourth

2425
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 6: or fifth receiver and you're not asking him to do much,

2426
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:44,719
Speaker 6: does he go in the tank?

2427
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2428
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 6: Well it's interesting because when the off field stuff, would

2429
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 6: he learned humility.

2430
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 8: Because he was he was in a crowded room at Washington.

2431
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 8: So that's like what makes it interesting, Like he clearly

2432
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 8: was not the number one at Washington, like real Madoonese

2433
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 8: was the number one.

2434
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 6: And Jalen McMillan was the number two into we got hurt, right,

2435
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 6: Otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about.

2436
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I find that part interesting because he has

2437
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 8: been sort of not necessarily complimentary, is probably a little strong,

2438
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 8: but he has been part of a group instead of

2439
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 8: just being the guy like a lot of guys like Jalen,

2440
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 8: you're at a different something, if you're at a different school,

2441
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 8: then Jalen Polk is the number one receiver in college,

2442
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 8: but he wasn't, so I don't know a bad school.

2443
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 2: I'd be curious.

2444
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 5: I'd be curious what Josh thinks of him as a

2445
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 5: player and how Josh thinks he could use him. But

2446
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 5: I think an element we're not talking about is the

2447
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 5: fact that they had a terrible offense last year with

2448
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 5: not great coaching as well. So you know, those weren't

2449
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 5: the guys to pull him out of a funk, and

2450
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 5: clearly they pushed the wrong buttons to get him.

2451
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 9: Let's go back to what Elliott Wolfe said at the

2452
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 9: end of the season. You know, we were counting on it,

2453
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 9: and he was talking about the coaching.

2454
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 5: No and he's primably sample and everything Paul said is right,

2455
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 5: Like I mean, you know, you can read into it.

2456
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 5: I think I air sometimes more on the side of

2457
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 5: these are young kids all of a sudden thrust in

2458
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 5: the spotlight, and they're trying to project confidence in themselves

2459
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 5: and their team, and you know, we were doing this

2460
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 5: together and they have that mindset, and it comes across poorly.

2461
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 5: Sometimes rookies are best seen and not heard less is more,

2462
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 5: those things are always going to be true for the rookies.

2463
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 5: So it's it's a fascinating player. I mean, I think

2464
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 5: it's really fun to watch him this year because he

2465
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 5: did catch a lot of balls last summer. Does he

2466
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 5: not do it again or does he Let's go to.

2467
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 2: Dave in Toronto. What's up, Dave? Wendy up there?

2468
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 5: Huh No, you're on top of the ctower fining go

2469
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 5: on the road.

2470
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 15: That might be it.

2471
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 26: Okay, I've been listening for seventeen eighteen years, half of

2472
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 26: my life.

2473
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 12: I'm thirty four years old.

2474
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 26: It's a long time.

2475
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 2: First time, Wow, where you been?

2476
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 7: I couldn't get through for.

2477
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,480
Speaker 12: The first couple of times I tried, and I figured.

2478
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 16: Listening is just easier afterwards.

2479
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 26: Okay, A couple of questions for you guys, Evan. Do

2480
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 26: you guys have access to the tracking data for the

2481
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 26: college receivers. Is that something you guys you know see

2482
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 26: before pre draft in terms of you know, speed and

2483
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 26: and you know how fast you're going on the field,

2484
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 26: or is that just NFL.

2485
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 3: Teams some of it?

2486
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, some of it trickles out through different

2487
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 8: resources and things like that. But not like a database

2488
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 8: where I could pull up any player anytime.

2489
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 24: No.

2490
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's not something that's publicly available data. But that

2491
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 26: is something that is out there in the ether somewhere right.

2492
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, that's true. This is like real analytics or

2493
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 8: Zebra or whatever.

2494
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 27: Yeah, m okay, I'm just like backing up you know,

2495
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 27: you see the speed times, but then you see the

2496
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 27: real field of speed times that sometimes there's a big

2497
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 27: discrepency between those two things. And then I have another

2498
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 27: question about the defense if you don't mind, and what

2499
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 27: Babel wants to do. I think is really standing a

2500
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 27: lot of pressure, especially down to the middle through Million

2501
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 27: Williams and that middle of the middle of the field

2502
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 27: or the middle of the defensive line.

2503
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 26: Does that mean that ends are going to be pulled

2504
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 26: back a little from really getting after the quarterback? Just

2505
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 26: kind of secure those ends?

2506
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 27: Are all four of those guys really getting after that

2507
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 27: quarterback and that linebackers left to kind.

2508
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 2: Of clean up with me?

2509
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 3: B Yeah, second one for sure.

2510
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Dave.

2511
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think all the defensive linemen they're going to

2512
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 8: be four down and they're gonna be attacking. They played

2513
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 8: a lot of like you know, unbalanced lines where they

2514
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 8: had like three guys on one side of the center

2515
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 8: and then just one guy on the arm side of

2516
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 8: the quarterback. And they're running games and stunts and things

2517
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 8: like that, and they like to get after.

2518
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:29,839
Speaker 2: It to get creative.

2519
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 5: But I still think it's going to be a totally

2520
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 5: total departure from what we're kind of used to, especially

2521
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 5: on early downs where it's stop the run on the

2522
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 5: way to the quarterback, get off the snap.

2523
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 9: Well, I'm excited because with Carlton Davis and Gonzalez, how

2524
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 9: that opens things up other people.

2525
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the four down stuff's exciting.

2526
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 8: Like we haven't really experienced the defense that plays four down,

2527
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 8: defensive line and hand in the dirt, teeing off like

2528
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 8: that's not really a Bill thing, So we haven't really

2529
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 8: seen that in a while around here.

2530
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 5: I think the part of that is going to be

2531
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 5: there'll probably be some big plays and they're going to

2532
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 5: be from time to time they're gonna get gash, they're

2533
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 5: going in the sky ahead, Yeah, and they'll be there'll

2534
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 5: be seams that they get exploited. But I think you'll hope.

2535
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 5: The hope is you make more place than you give up.

2536
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 2: Chris is in England.

2537
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 12: Hey, Chris, good afternoon, good evening.

2538
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, good evening.

2539
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 12: Yes Da from Toronto stelled my thunder because it's been

2540
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 12: fifteen years. They'll be listening and it's the first time

2541
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 12: I've called I think seventeen. First of all, just wanted

2542
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 12: to say love the show as obviously listening for fifteen years.

2543
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 12: You should to enjoy listening to it. Fortune in Foxborough

2544
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 12: was great, thank you, although everybody, I think it will

2545
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 12: be pulled a bit dirty when he had his part

2546
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 12: and didn't nobody spot the wild hair that was floating

2547
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 12: off the top of them at the point.

2548
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, is what it is.

2549
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 2: A straight here.

2550
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 12: I just wanted to talk about walk on music.

2551
01:49:58,800 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 7: If my name?

2552
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: What's that?

2553
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 12: I wanted to talk about walk on music?

2554
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 2: Walk on music?

2555
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, you were talking last week about walk on music,

2556
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 12: so I thought I would tell you what my English

2557
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 12: football team, Tottenham Hots there recent European champions, come out to.

2558
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 12: And I also have another song which I think will

2559
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 12: make you quite a music Ford. So we come out

2560
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 12: to Duel of Fates and Star Wars.

2561
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 5: Okay, that's like.

2562
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 12: The other song that we have that is sometimes played

2563
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 12: on the PA but also just sometimes the fan sing

2564
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 12: it is from your good friend Barry Manilo mhm me

2565
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 12: and the idea.

2566
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 5: Of what it might be pop. You just saw him

2567
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 5: perform live. Now what'd he come out to?

2568
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 12: So I'm going to have to sing it because we

2569
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 12: have that. We've sort of interjected with the chart of Tottenham,

2570
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 12: so it's you know, small.

2571
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 7: Fantastic.

2572
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2573
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 9: So when you sing it, do you have your arm

2574
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 9: on each other's shoulders and you go back and forth

2575
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 9: a big single yeah along the scarfs yep, the scarfs yep,

2576
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 9: and then you beat the crap out of No. I

2577
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 9: like it.

2578
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 12: I like it, but also the last one doesn't get

2579
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 12: many shouts out, but I'd like to congratulate him. A

2580
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 12: couple of weeks ago you had an irishman and I

2581
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,759
Speaker 12: don't think he was talking much then, and Mac, assuming

2582
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 12: Matt is the person doing it, he cleverly put on

2583
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 12: thanks for nothing from Caddy shot.

2584
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 9: Maybe chuckle everybody, Thanks Chris, Thanks listening for fifteen years.

2585
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,879
Speaker 8: Absolutely a couple of years for Tottenham recently, not exactly

2586
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 8: at the top of the.

2587
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 3: Taste that scouts team.

2588
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 4: No.

2589
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 2: His was Chelsea, wasn't it.

2590
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 3: It's a wagoner I've ever seen one I remember.

2591
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 2: Just tell about the Bundesliga. I'm like, what is that?

2592
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 2: The German leg That's not That's why we were for

2593
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 2: Bayern Munchin although they didn't win last year.

2594
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 3: Was it a Burusha Doorman one?

2595
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah.

2596
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 9: Bill Wright saying if you could go back and watch

2597
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 9: one game live for the first time, which is it one?

2598
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 9: The Patriots Squished the Fish Game eighty six, Conference Finals,

2599
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,839
Speaker 9: the Celtics bird steals the ball versus Detroit. The Bruins

2600
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 9: come back versus Toronto down three goals in Game seven

2601
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 9: twenty thirteen, the Red Sox Game four versus Yankees to

2602
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 9: start the comeback, or BC Flutie Hail Mary versus Miami.

2603
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 4: Definitely the Bruins.

2604
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 11: That Bruins game was unbelievable.

2605
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 8: I'll never forget, Like, I feel like i'd want to

2606
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 8: go back to like squish the Fishers on.

2607
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 10: But do you remember watching that live? Like, yeah, into

2608
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,839
Speaker 10: the late hour. Oh god, I got to break curfew

2609
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 10: that night.

2610
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 5: Mine would be bird Steal Detroit.

2611
01:52:59,200 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

2612
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 6: She was just to make me feel so bad about

2613
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 6: myself that you had to break curfew to watch.

2614
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 11: I was in high school. Yeah, I was eighteen.

2615
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 4: I was in Washington, d C. I actually didn't see

2616
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 4: it live.

2617
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 5: Thirteen.

2618
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah I watched that one.

2619
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely saw that one live. But I've seen

2620
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 8: that one so like I would want to go back

2621
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 8: to the games.

2622
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 4: No, But I mean I get what your point. I'm

2623
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 4: going to go to something.

2624
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 6: I'm going to lean to it something I hadn't seen,

2625
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 6: but he was saying, if you had a chance to

2626
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 6: watch it, as if you had never seen it, I

2627
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 6: live it as if you've.

2628
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 3: But also like the tough part about that one is

2629
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 3: I know they don't go on to win the Cup.

2630
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: So it's just like that was bitter.

2631
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, like if you would enjoy the moment, well, it's

2632
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 5: it's a spoiler, like they didn't win the Super Bowl

2633
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 5: in eighty five either.

2634
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 10: The eleven run where they had a game was it

2635
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 10: also against forget Who, but it went into like it

2636
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 10: felt like seven overtimes.

2637
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 3: They've had in the Cup Final.

2638
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 8: They've had quite a few games run the multiple, So

2639
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 8: thirteen against the Blackhawks, they had a free overtime game.

2640
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 11: It was more than that the one I'm thinking of, I.

2641
01:53:58,560 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 3: Think the Blackhawks it was three.

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01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 6: I think they had a triple overtime game in the

2643
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 6: ninety finals against Edmonton.

2644
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 2: Peter Kleima, Peter Klema.

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01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, lights and the end of the was not the

2646
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 4: lights out wasn't the lights out game? No, the lights

2647
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 4: out game was eighty eight.

2648
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 5: Oh that was two days.

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01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 9: Okay before h Dan and Virginia Michigan, while surprised this

2650
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 9: is for Evan. While surprising your bride with a musical

2651
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 9: performance would generally be a good thing, I would encourage

2652
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 9: Evan to crunch the numbers on this one. If Jess

2653
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 9: associates his saxophone with one of his former girlfriends, she

2654
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 9: might regard Evan breaking out of sacks at the wedding

2655
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 9: as if he thought along, as if he brought along

2656
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 9: the old girlfriend.

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01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 5: No, no, he's writing, he's writing wrong.

2658
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 8: Just for the record, was not an old girlfriend I

2659
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 8: wish was an old your girlfriend?

2660
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 4: Doubling down that girl?

2661
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 3: But amazing because I think what the sacks? Maybe probably

2662
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 3: I said she was she was out of my leaks.

2663
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 3: It was Jess, But like you know that one I

2664
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 3: got lucky dated drummers. Yeah, maybe that was what it was.

2665
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 9: Speaking of Evan's dating life, I suggested on X that

2666
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 9: Paul and Deuce should have a movie date with Evan

2667
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 9: to go see Jaws at fifty, the definitive inside story.

2668
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 9: Then I remember that movies actually aren't the best dates

2669
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 9: because you can't talk to one another. So, as an

2670
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 9: off season conversation topic, what are your ideas for a

2671
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 9: good date or what's the best date you've been on?

2672
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 8: That's a bad take movies are a great date great

2673
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 8: like not like if it's like a first date, but

2674
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 8: like if you if you're great date.

2675
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 5: First date, coffee, get coffee and talk first.

2676
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 6: Date, I think, yeah, something very low key, low pressure,

2677
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 6: like not a full dinner. Yeah, just to sort of

2678
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 6: get to talk and get to know each.

2679
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 5: Trying to myself. Like one time in life before texting

2680
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 5: and stuff, I like walked up to a girl that

2681
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 5: I kind of had been talking to and just asked

2682
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 5: her out on it, like you want to go out

2683
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 5: on a date, And she was not that excited.

2684
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 4: About I have to set before yet this is a

2685
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 4: different girl.

2686
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 5: This is post that was post girlfriend.

2687
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: This is a you know, trying to But then that's

2688
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 2: what we did. We just had coffee.

2689
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 5: We didn't hit it off, it didn't it didn't go anywhere,

2690
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 5: but I was proudly at least one time in my

2691
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 5: life I walked up to a girl in person and

2692
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 5: was like, would you like to go out on a

2693
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 5: date with me? You know, I think it's hard to do.

2694
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 5: I think young guys are terrified.

2695
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 3: I think we need to get out of they don't

2696
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 3: perspect it, they don't do it.

2697
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 5: No, And now it's all easy because you just text

2698
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 5: and you're like, you know, like you don't have to

2699
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 5: ever have thesee they haven't been on an actual date

2700
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 5: a long time.

2701
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 10: Like I like a sports game honestly because you can,

2702
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 10: like if the conversation dies off, you can watch the

2703
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 10: game and tiland.

2704
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 5: For a golf date.

2705
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, golfs like but then you're stuck.

2706
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 11: I'm a whustler for like, I'm a hustler golf.

2707
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 4: It's like I've got made fun of for saying miniature

2708
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 4: golf is a great.

2709
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 5: That's a great.

2710
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 4: People have made fun of me. That's good. I used

2711
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 4: to do that from time.

2712
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 2: So when you did it, did you try to win?

2713
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 21: No?

2714
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 11: You just have it's not too long too. You get

2715
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 11: an ice cream cone after the.

2716
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 4: One for French Richardson's down.

2717
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 10: I used to be like, Okay, if you're you're not

2718
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 10: taking me out to dinner on the first date, you're

2719
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 10: scrub and you're not trying hard enough. But then I

2720
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 10: realized my time is way too valuable to be locked

2721
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 10: into a dinner date.

2722
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 4: That why would do the dinner followed by the miniature

2723
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 4: golf a lot?

2724
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 11: If it goes well, you say, hey, let's scrub dinner

2725
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 11: and if not see.

2726
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 5: I think minister is great for a little flirty back

2727
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 5: and forth like oh you got this one?

2728
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, like.

2729
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot then there is.

2730
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 4: You really are something else. It's supposed to keep us

2731
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 4: out of trouble.

2732
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Well, there's like a lot of.

2733
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 9: Stuff going on with miniature golf. There's holes, there's putters,

2734
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 9: you know, there's.

2735
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 5: All kinds of What was the argument for people saying

2736
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 5: that miniature golf is a bad date because I think

2737
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 5: that's an excellent first.

2738
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 3: Day, you know what they say, stupid, I agree, but

2739
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 3: a good first date.

2740
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad.

2741
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 3: Because it's like an activity.

2742
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 2: What about taking her to a sporting event?

2743
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 4: That's what I said, Thanks for listening.

2744
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 10: And then I get to be like, hey, I'm cool,

2745
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 10: I actually know stuff about the sports.

2746
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 8: Well, I feel like an activity, like you know, it's

2747
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 8: probably best because like if you can't, like the conversation

2748
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 8: dies down and sitting across the table from her, like

2749
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 8: then what are you what next?

2750
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 3: Right now?

2751
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 8: So if you're mini golfing or something like that, then

2752
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 8: that occupies some of the time and maybe gets some

2753
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 8: of the awkwardness out.

2754
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, this is my bar should listen to

2755
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 3: this part of this.

2756
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 4: Travis was the kids thing to do, like, you know,

2757
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 4: adults don't do that, you know.

2758
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 6: I think that was kind of like the pushback and

2759
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 6: it wasn't a lot but what But I had mentioned

2760
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 6: it a couple of times and I was like, minute

2761
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 6: golf the wrong So now I was like, why.

2762
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 11: Would you want to be with someone take them?

2763
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 2: Tis that?

2764
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:38,919
Speaker 11: Seriously?

2765
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 6: I never had a girl say like, no, I'm not

2766
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 6: doing that, even like like my college girlfriend was like

2767
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 6: the least athletic general Nina. Sorry, not all Italian girls

2768
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 6: are the same. And she loved it, like you used

2769
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 6: to go minute a golfing all the time.

2770
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 4: She loved it.

2771
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 2: I used to go with old very at the end,

2772
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 2: what could be better?

2773
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 4: We could be?

2774
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 9: Afterwards, chrissed, I love it this those days, Travis in

2775
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 9: West Virginia, as I want to do, I'm asking a

2776
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 9: non football question today since Alex is there, I figured

2777
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 9: I get a more balanced answer. A co worker of

2778
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 9: mine and for me that she has four best friends.

2779
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 9: I told her that wasn't possible. You can only have

2780
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 9: one best friend.

2781
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

2782
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 4: Girls do this a lot?

2783
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 11: Girls do this I'm guilty. I'm so guilty.

2784
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 9: Actually, freshman year of college, everybody becomes the best friend

2785
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 9: by November.

2786
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 2: They hate each other.

2787
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 10: Well, I have Morgan, we've known each other since first grade,

2788
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 10: and it's college together, my best friend. But then you

2789
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 10: have like your work bestie, your adult bestie, your college bestie,

2790
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 10: Like I don't know, I have, I have a like

2791
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 10: I have a group of four and the four of

2792
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 10: us are super tight. They're my four besties, including Morgan, Morgan,

2793
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 10: and then but then, like I was with all my

2794
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 10: high school friends this past weekend and like, we've all

2795
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 10: known each other twenty years. We were talking about this

2796
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 10: and it's crazy and we're all still pretty tight too.

2797
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 2: I gotta get this out quick.

2798
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 5: We're out of time. But I have such a ran

2799
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 5: on this. I hate when people are like, I want

2800
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 5: my wife to be my best friend. I'm like, you can't.

2801
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 5: Your spouse can't be your best friend. Your best friend

2802
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 5: needs to be somebody different than your spouse. Your spouse

2803
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 5: is your spouse.

2804
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 4: It's another window into the deuce.

2805
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 5: I got, I got Passionate knows my feelings on this.

2806
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 2: Your spouse, you're not your best friend. You have to

2807
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,040
Speaker 2: have a best friend and a spouse.

2808
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 5: Your spouse is your spouse. That's even more special than

2809
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 5: a best friend, So don't try to like combine them

2810
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:31,840
Speaker 5: into two.

2811
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 4: You need a best friend too, Okay, on that note,

2812
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 4: it's a complicated I like the.

2813
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 11: Movie I Love You Man where paul R. Have you

2814
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 11: guys seen it? Paula doesn't have a best that's the

2815
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 11: best one, though, do.

2816
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 2: Your stupid bat's rough wice like?

2817
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 5: And I want someone who's not only my best friend

2818
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 5: but also my soul.

2819
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 4: My best friends every ye, but you missed it. You

2820
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 4: always have to start with foot.

2821
02:00:57,080 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 9: Those of you who don't, All right, well listen, that's

2822
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 9: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I

2823
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:09,160
Speaker 9: hope everyone has a great weekend. I know I'm going to,

2824
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 9: no matter what I am, savor these weekends. They're gonna

2825
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 9: be We're gonna have run out pretty soon.

2826
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 4: Only four grand parties this weekend.

2827
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 2: All right, We will see you next Tuesday.

2828
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 5: Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.

2829
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:26,000
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2830
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:28,600
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2831
02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 5: or Spotify. Also make sure you follow us on the

2832
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 5: new England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and

2833
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 5: everything else that we do here at the Patriots. Thanks

2834
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 5: a lot.