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Speaker 1: It's time to oh, Happy Friday to you diggity donks.

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Speaker 1: It's time for a special edition of m k L Squared.

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Speaker 1: Luke Squared. How you doing, folks. It's the eighteenth of

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Speaker 1: April twenty twenty five here on a Friday edition. My

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo today, joined by my namesake from Bong Island,

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Speaker 1: New York. It's Long Island, Luke. What's up, my friend?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Dude?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm not BC.

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Speaker 4: I know everyone's probably disappointed, but you know we're gonna

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Speaker 4: have a good show here.

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Speaker 3: Luke Squared taken over. Let's go Luke.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, indeed. Now, there is no UFC event this weekend.

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Speaker 1: They're taking a bit of a break after UFC three fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there was a lot of meat on that

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Speaker 1: no less, both of them, so which that's kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about the UFC Island main event. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the UFC Kansas City main event, we'll compare them.

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Speaker 1: But today before we do all of that, it is

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Speaker 1: a mail bag episode, Yes, m ail bag episode of

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Speaker 1: the show. Here we're gonna we solicited all your questions.

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Speaker 1: You send it to us at Morning Combat at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com, and here we are ready to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, if you want to send us any further correspondence,

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Speaker 1: that's the place to do it. You can see it

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Speaker 1: on the screen. A couple of housekeeping notes first and

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Speaker 1: foremost thumbs up. If you're watching on the video now,

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Speaker 1: that'd be so kind if you would do so, as

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Speaker 1: well as please subscribe that would also be awesome. And

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Speaker 1: of course you can see the socials there below. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see you subbed out BC's.

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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't, Mikey did it for me.

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Speaker 4: I mean we got to you see too, So you know,

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Speaker 4: throw that up there if everyone goes subscribe Brian Campbell experience.

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Speaker 1: BC's having a wonderful time on vacation. He has told

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Speaker 1: me exactly that they're in the middle of earthquakes, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the West Coast and all that kind of fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: But he's having an awesome time and I'm sure he'll

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Speaker 1: have some he's back on Monday, right he should be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys are both in studio Monday. I was

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Speaker 4: just laughing with our producer Matt Snyder. I was like,

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Speaker 4: BC sends this beautiful video to us. He's like, I'm

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Speaker 4: loving San Diego. This is great. And then two minutes

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Speaker 4: later we get alerts that there's been a six point

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Speaker 3: So they're doing well, They're okay. So shouts to the

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Speaker 1: I guess the people from San Diego were another day

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Speaker 1: us East Coast people, we get quite literally rattled when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently average Joe didn't even flint. Shout out average Joe.

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Speaker 4: He's like, we experienced this all the time.

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Speaker 1: Any other things you want to say to the docks.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'll be doing this is gonna air

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Speaker 4: on Friday. I'll be doing a full card PFL.

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Speaker 3: Watch along on Friday.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Wow, I know, shocking, Luke, It's Friday, you know,

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Speaker 4: leaving the Saturday open for the girl for you got

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Speaker 4: You know, it's Friday this week, But yeah, so join

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Speaker 3: Minute, me and Gaff?

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Speaker 1: What time does that main card start?

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Speaker 1: It's just not big.

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Speaker 1: need it every day, but every once in a while

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Speaker 1: seems cool, you know, Like didn't they have what was that?

432
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Speaker 1: What was that basketball game they had on the aircraft carrier?

433
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that? The college basketball game?

434
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Speaker 3: No, I don't remember.

435
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 1: It was like it was like Michigan State and somebody

436
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Speaker 1: I forget who it was, and it was on the

437
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Speaker 1: surface of it. It was docked, obviously, it was a

438
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Speaker 1: docked naval aircraft carrier and they put up they put

439
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Speaker 1: a basketball court on top of it and they play

440
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Speaker 1: I mean it might have been like Michigan State versus

441
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Speaker 1: Navy or something. I forget who it was, but that

442
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: was like a cool thing. Now, all the stand all

443
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: the seats on, like the bleachers were on the deck.

444
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of cool. How do you

445
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Speaker 1: feel about the residency for PFL.

446
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Speaker 4: I think it's a smart decision, but I'm a little like,

447
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Speaker 4: I don't know if bummed is the right word.

448
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: But I like when you go to different markets. I like,

449
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Speaker 3: especially someone.

450
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 4: Like PFL, go to a depleted market, like go somewhere

451
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 4: that's UFC starved, UFC hasn't been there in years, because

452
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Speaker 4: that's where you're gonna get your fans. They have their

453
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 4: best success in Europe because the UFC rarely goes to Europe.

454
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Speaker 4: So like, I don't know, I do kind of hate

455
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Speaker 4: the Universal Studios aspect of it.

456
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Speaker 3: But if it's working for them and they're making money,

457
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Speaker 3: I'm more power to them.

458
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Speaker 1: I'm finally my thought was this. My thought was this.

459
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Speaker 1: I didn't think they should have opened the season there.

460
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Speaker 1: I felt like they should, and again they didn't. They're

461
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Speaker 1: the first PFL event of the year. Correct me if

462
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Was the Usman number get made off and

463
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Speaker 1: Paul Hughes fight. Correct, Yeah, it was in January, right,

464
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Speaker 1: so so that was their first fight of the seaton

465
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Speaker 1: of the year. Okay, fine, but that was in cut guitar.

466
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to point out this, and I'll

467
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Speaker 1: be curious to get your response, which is, would it

468
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Speaker 1: have not made a little bit more sense for them

469
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Speaker 1: to the extent possible to start, as you pointed out,

470
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Speaker 1: one of these like mid major markets like a Lincoln,

471
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Speaker 1: Nebraska or you know something even even where I was

472
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Speaker 1: Iowa City, for crying out loud, you know, if you're not,

473
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Speaker 1: like if you're at Universal Studios and you're already not

474
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Speaker 1: selling tickets, are you really that concerned with how much

475
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Speaker 1: money you're generating at the gate versus just kind of

476
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Speaker 1: filling it with fans? Right, having this big sound, I

477
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 1: felt like they should have opened with like a big

478
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Speaker 1: boom kind of event like here where we've arrived, new rules,

479
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Speaker 1: you know, new new look, new angle and everything, rather

480
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Speaker 1: than going like right to a studio to start off

481
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Speaker 1: the season. It just felt like a It was. It

482
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Speaker 1: looked good on TV, it looked like you executed well,

483
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Speaker 1: but it felt a little flat to me.

484
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Speaker 3: I agree. I agree hundred percent.

485
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Speaker 4: Also, like I'm not too familiar with Universal Studios, but like,

486
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: isn't that like at Disney, So like, aren't.

487
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Speaker 3: A majority of the people.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're.

489
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Speaker 4: No, I think those are separate facilities, all right, I'm

490
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 4: so maybe my point is null and void. But like,

491
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Speaker 4: for example, Penn Station Madison Square Gardens right above it,

492
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Speaker 4: half of the ticket sales from Nick's Rangers games whatever

493
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 4: are from tourists just coming through, going, oh, I can

494
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Speaker 4: see a game up here whatever. I kind of feel

495
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Speaker 4: like Universal Studio, at least in my head, has that

496
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Speaker 4: vibe where it's like people on vacation and they're like, oh,

497
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Speaker 4: there's a fight, let's go check it out, rather than

498
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Speaker 4: actual fight fans who are like.

499
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Speaker 1: Universal Studios, you're going with your kids, Like.

500
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like you're and the dad who

501
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 4: had a couple of beers at dinner is like, I'm

502
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Speaker 4: gonna go check out these fights, babe, I'll meet you later,

503
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Speaker 4: you know. Like so I don't think it's like the

504
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Speaker 4: biggest die hard fans being like, oh my god, I

505
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Speaker 4: gotta see Jason Jackson at Universal Studios tonight, Like you know.

506
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Speaker 1: You know what the move was, should have gone to

507
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Speaker 1: Tachi Palace.

508
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: I mean, someone's gotta go their oad.

509
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Speaker 1: By the way, producer's telling me it was Syracuse, San

510
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Diego State that was on that aircraft carrier game, gotcha,

511
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Speaker 1: that's who was there?

512
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Speaker 3: All right?

513
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Speaker 1: We keep it moving, uh from William from William. With

514
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: the UFC investing heavily in grappling, like you know, grappling

515
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: sports events like CJI offering substantial prize money and nil

516
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: deals allowing college wrestlers to earn solid income, what impact

517
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Speaker 1: will this have on the depth of the UFC and

518
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: other MMA organization's rosters. Will fewer high level wrestlers and

519
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Speaker 1: grapplers transition to MMA, and how will this influence the

520
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: sport as a whole? Can I tell you very quickly?

521
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Speaker 1: I would love to get your perspective on this. I

522
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Speaker 1: am terrified of this, terrified. What do you think?

523
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Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent.

524
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Speaker 4: Look at like, who is arguably the biggest stars in

525
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Speaker 4: their discipline in the last you know, ten years, Jordan

526
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: Burrows and wrestling, Gordon Ryan and jiu jitsu.

527
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Speaker 3: There's a reason those guys never win to MMA.

528
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: They were like, I'm getting a shitload of money to

529
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Speaker 4: not get punched in the face and just stick to

530
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Speaker 4: my craft. Why would I do this? They're the outliers.

531
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Speaker 4: They're like the superstars. But if you're telling me, you

532
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: know some guy who is a D one wrestler, but

533
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: you know, maybe never won a college NCAA championship, whatever

534
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: the hell it's called. Like, these are the guys who

535
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: can now get tens of thousands of dollars to compete

536
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Speaker 4: in grappling or wrestling tournaments and not have to go

537
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: to the UFC. Like they're gonna do it, dude, And

538
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: I'm we should all be worried as fans. We're not

539
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: gonna get like elite grapplers or guys from other disciplines

540
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 4: coming over at this point if they're being paid handsomely

541
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Speaker 4: in their own thing.

542
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, good for them, you.

543
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Speaker 1: Know, dude. I interviewed Dan Gable about this. I interviewed

544
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Speaker 1: Jeff Blatnick about this. These are two guys who obviously

545
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Speaker 1: were instrumental, like you know, in the one case in

546
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: the UFC world, but obviously both in the amateur wrestling world,

547
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: and this was I interviewed them at a time. I

548
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: think this was like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, when like

549
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: the peak of crossover wrestling was happening. You know, that's

550
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: what Widman was starting to break through. And you know,

551
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: Mark Munoz was already d one national champion was there,

552
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: and forget about everybody else in Brock and Kane and

553
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Speaker 1: you know, I could just go on down the list

554
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: and up the Cole Conrad and blah blah blah, just

555
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: so many guys and I remember them asking and they

556
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think they were. In the case of Gable,

557
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily, I think, love the idea of wrestlers

558
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: going into m m A, but he definitely was very appreciative, like, hey,

559
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Speaker 1: this is a great chance for these guys to make

560
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Speaker 1: some real money. And obviously, you know, we were living

561
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Speaker 1: with the era of Matt Hughes as well. You know,

562
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Speaker 1: their success was immediate, like it was obvious, you know,

563
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: and Josh Costure and again, the list is endless. Some

564
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Speaker 1: of the names I could I could point out who

565
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: are like relevant during this time, but you know, you

566
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Speaker 1: could tell that, like at least I felt you could

567
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Speaker 1: tell as a strong way to put it. I felt

568
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Speaker 1: like if there was another option, they would have preferred it,

569
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like if there was a

570
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Speaker 1: way to stay in wrestling and there and by the

571
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Speaker 1: way US said, wrestling made a bunch of changes to

572
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Speaker 1: how they paid Olympic athletes, and you know, college programs

573
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Speaker 1: were like, you know, bumping up. This is a short.

574
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Speaker 1: It's not many guys who could be hired for a

575
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: college coaching program. But I'm told that like their numbers

576
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: went up and like they just they they they pivoted

577
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: in a way to like kind of pull some of

578
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: the wrestlers back, and now with sport jiu jitsu turning

579
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: into something that's real, it's like, dude, you know, look

580
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: at light heavyweight, bro, I make this point all the

581
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: fucking time, but look at light heavyweight. We had, we

582
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: had the top ten almost fully was former D one wrestlers,

583
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Speaker 1: and now there's just.

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Speaker 3: Donks up man. I mean he's not D one, but yeah.

585
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Speaker 1: I mean, look year, he's a good athlete. He's amazing

586
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: to watch. I think, especially that he's cleaning up his defense.

587
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: It's like, really really great. Obviously Poton's Poton uncle's a

588
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: good fighter. I think could have competed in any era.

589
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: And listen, I don't want to crap on Reyes. He's

590
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: turned stuff around, but you know, I not much, just

591
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: like you know, those guys are fine, but like it's

592
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: it's slim pickens after that. And it did not used

593
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: to be that way at all. It did not used

594
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Speaker 1: to be that way.

595
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Speaker 3: Scary future we're in for if they don't broth.

596
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Speaker 1: When I first got back into MMA, I mean I

597
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: watched it for a long time and then kind of

598
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: got out of it during college, then got back into

599
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Speaker 1: it right after. I mean I was watching a little

600
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Speaker 1: bit in college, but not much, but then I got

601
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Speaker 1: back into it a little bit after college. You know,

602
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Speaker 1: this was the era of Tito beating people up and

603
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: then Randy beating people up, and even folks forget about

604
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: this bung Island. Chuck Ledell was a wrestler in college too,

605
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Speaker 1: was it cal State? Polly, I forget the exact university

606
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: he went to. All those fucking guys wrestled, all of

607
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: them wrestled collegiately. So, you know, losing that pipeline kind

608
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Speaker 1: of being slowly turned off, I don't know, making me

609
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: a little nervous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm scared all right with that. In mos Cally,

611
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: by the way, was it cal Polly.

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Speaker 1: All right, question number six from Brandon in terms of

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Speaker 1: the present combat sports communities respect which fighters achievements? Oh,

614
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Speaker 1: this is interesting. Okay, here we go. Which fighters achievements

615
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: are the most underappreciated or overblown in both MMA and boxing?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Long Island, Luke? This to me

617
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: sounds like, well it sounds it sounds like a great

618
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to do shots fired by Cuervo. How about that

619
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Speaker 1: as always brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a good

620
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Big thanks

621
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Speaker 1: to our friends at Cuervo. All Right, what do you think,

622
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Speaker 1: Bong Island, Luke, who's got it the most underappreciated or

623
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Speaker 1: overblown in MMA or boxing?

624
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Speaker 3: What do you think? I feel like overblown? Gotta be

625
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Speaker 3: Triple C man.

626
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Speaker 4: I know he's not the most fan friendly, so to

627
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Speaker 4: call him overblown sounds kind of wild.

628
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Speaker 3: He an Olympic champion.

629
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna knock the guy, but like, let's just

630
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Speaker 4: talk about his UFC championship run for a second. He

631
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: beats Demetrius in a fight that I thought Demetrius won.

632
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: But you know, okay, it's close and he did get

633
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Speaker 4: the w okay, not knocking that. Then he goes on

634
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: to fight tj Epo TJ who literally took one punch

635
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Speaker 4: and crumbled under like a terrible weight cut. You can't

636
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Speaker 4: really count that as like healthy tj Okay. Then he

637
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Speaker 4: goes and fights Marlon Moris for the vacant bandamweight title.

638
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: Marlon Morice has been knocked out in seven of his

639
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: last eight fights since.

640
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Speaker 3: Then, you know, hindsight, probably not a great win. Uh.

641
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Speaker 3: Then he fights Dom Cruise.

642
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Speaker 4: And I'm not knocking Dom Cruise, probably the greatest bandon

643
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Speaker 4: weight of all time, but Tom Cruise was coming off

644
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Speaker 4: a four year layoff and like probably shouldn't have even

645
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Speaker 4: been ranked, and they gave him a title shot against

646
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Speaker 4: the Huto, so Hudo obviously beat the brakes off of him.

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Speaker 4: Then they rematch, Now that probably goes totally different. Then

648
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Speaker 4: you know, he comes back, you lose to al Joe Morab.

649
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Speaker 4: I mean, those are my guys, great losses right there,

650
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Speaker 4: but you're losing a song, you don now you know.

651
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Speaker 3: It's just like Shudo totally overblown, totally.

652
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Speaker 4: He flopped his entire career taking that time off and

653
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Speaker 4: just looking back on it maybe a fluky championship run.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And when you when he was like

655
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Speaker 1: you know, probably like after that cruise fight, right, who

656
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Speaker 1: was he gonna fight? Maybe Pyotr Jan And we missed

657
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Speaker 1: all of that too, you know what I mean. Like,

658
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Speaker 1: so there's the argument like, oh, he sat out during

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Speaker 1: his prime, like and I agree with that, Like to

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Speaker 1: the point you raised, maybe maybe he beats young, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, like that version of him in

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Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty, whenever that was, or you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he beats Young, Maybe he beats those guys. But

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Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't and then sat out during

665
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Speaker 1: that time, you just missed the most relevant possible window,

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Speaker 1: both for financial earning as well as legacy in the end.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he was an Olympic gold medalist

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Speaker 1: out of high school, you know, I mean, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, we're gonna look past that. We're talking about his

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Speaker 3: UFC I run, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I know, I'm just saying he is an he

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Speaker 1: lead athlete. I mean, that is that is But to

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Speaker 1: your point you raised that that men's two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight Olympic team from the previous question, askrin dc him

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Speaker 1: Andy Rovatt, there's a bunch of other guys who were

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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, either either training MMA or

677
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Speaker 1: fighting MMA or training in MMA gyms anyway, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just don't know what's gonna hap. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the subsequent Olympic teams have not turned out to be

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Speaker 1: that relevant. And this sort of goes to show what

681
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Speaker 1: we're talking about here. But all right, that is uh,

682
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Speaker 1: that's our turnout. Shots fired one more time, brought to

683
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Speaker 1: you by Cuervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the

684
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Speaker 1: tequila that invented tequila. Let's keep it moving if we

685
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Speaker 1: can here Long Island. Look can go to question number seven.

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Speaker 1: This is from Double Move MMA. If these fights were

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Speaker 1: to happen today, who would you pick? Okay, here we go,

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Speaker 1: and which fight would you be the most interested in seeing?

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Speaker 1: All right, so I'll you give me your answer first.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, somebody's gonna okay.

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Speaker 4: All right, these are rough. Okay, let's name all for

692
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Speaker 4: first and then we'll okay.

693
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Speaker 1: So here's what this person is riding. The four fights

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Speaker 1: current Jose Aldo versus current Connor McGregor. But at one

695
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Speaker 1: fifty five, that's a weird one prime Ronda Rousi versus.

696
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Speaker 1: They just say, Juliana Panya, I'm assuming her prime too,

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Speaker 1: Mighty Mouse versus A La Chandre Pantosia's that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: And then Sean Brady versus Prime Matt Sarah. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: Bong Island, you're up first.

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Speaker 3: What do you think ranking? I mean, there's a clear

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Speaker 3: number one here.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be Mighty Mouse versus Pantosia eight billion percent. Yeah,

703
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Speaker 4: Like I actually want to see that fight, and that

704
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Speaker 4: fight does seem somewhat attainable. I know DJ retired, but like,

705
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Speaker 4: out of all these, that's kind of on the table. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Prime Rondo versus Juliana is literally just prime Ronda versus anyone?

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Speaker 3: Like I don't.

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Speaker 4: That's basically just like saying, do you want to see

709
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Speaker 4: Ronda Rousey fight again in her prime?

710
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Speaker 3: Like? Sure? Do I want to see her win in

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Speaker 3: two minutes? Great? Yeah? Like all right.

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Speaker 4: Weirdly, I want to say number two to me is

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Speaker 4: current jose aldovers Connor. Not that I'm intrigued by that

714
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Speaker 4: fight really, but I mean their first fight lasted what

715
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Speaker 4: thirteen seconds? I mean it would be nice to see

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Speaker 4: what happens now at lightweight. You were saying that is

717
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Speaker 4: weird because Jose although fights at Phantom wait now, and

718
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Speaker 4: McGregor is probably walking around to you know, two ten.

719
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Speaker 3: But I guess that's an even playing field.

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Speaker 4: You make Connor cut all the way to fifty five

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Speaker 4: and Jose gets to bulk up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Uh, Sean Brady prime Matt Sarah.

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Speaker 4: No disrespect to Matt Sarah, Long Island legend, but that

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Speaker 4: fight does nothing for me.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say also, I mean, you know, Matt Sarah

726
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Speaker 1: is an important figure in the history of MMA and

727
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Speaker 1: as well as American as well as the American jiu

728
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Speaker 1: jitsu scene, But dude, Sean Brady annihilates him, Like, how

729
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Speaker 1: is this even a conversation? And I know it's like, oh,

730
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Speaker 1: he beat Saint Pierre. I was there when he beat

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Speaker 1: Saint Pierre. Believe me, I remember it. But you know,

732
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Speaker 1: we're just talking about a Saint Pierre that took him lightly.

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Speaker 1: I think certainly avenged it in the rematch. And more

734
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Speaker 1: to the point, we're just talking about a guy in

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Speaker 1: Sean Brady who's got, you know, a more modern skill

736
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Speaker 1: set with more modern best practices. I think Sean Brady

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Speaker 1: makes quick work of him. To be perfectly honest, now

738
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Speaker 1: on the feet. I think folks forget Matsara had huge power,

739
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: so it could be kind of fun there. But my

740
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Speaker 1: answer is almost like yours. I'd go Mouse Pantosia, then

741
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Speaker 1: I'd go Rousey Paanya, then I'd go Aldo McGregor, and

742
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Speaker 1: then I'd go Brady Sarah. Yeah, there you go, all right.

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Speaker 1: Question number eight Happy Friday to El Squared? What is

744
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Speaker 1: your quote hear me out? Fight? What I mean by

745
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: that is what I fight. Do you love that? It

746
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: seems like no one else does and you have to

747
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Speaker 1: defend it. Mine is is e versus Silva. So many

748
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: people talk negatively about that fight, but I think it

749
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: was a dare I say, technical thriller. Ps. I was

750
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with leukemia back in December. I'm in remission now

751
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Speaker 1: and receiving consolidation chemo once a month. But I want

752
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Speaker 1: to thank you guys were providing some great entertainment during

753
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Speaker 1: the most challenging times of my life. You guys mean

754
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of people. Well, very glad

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Speaker 1: to hear that things are in a improved direction. Keep

756
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Speaker 1: it up. We support you. Long Islan Luke, what do

757
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Speaker 1: you think about this question? To hear me out fight.

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Speaker 3: First of all, shout out to Colin hope you're doing well. Uh.

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Speaker 4: I think it's got to be this fight over my

760
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: shoulder right here, dude. Usman versus Covington. I I don't

761
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Speaker 4: think people really remember that fight. You you read it

762
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Speaker 4: on paper, you go tomorrow, Usman versus Colby Comington.

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Speaker 3: That can't be that great. It was probably boring as shit.

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Speaker 4: They didn't shoot zero takedowns that entire fight. It was

765
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Speaker 4: a back and forth stand up war. I was on

766
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Speaker 4: the edge of my seat the entire time. Kolbe gets

767
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 4: dropped and eventually finished in the fifth round. I mean, dude,

768
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Speaker 4: that was a banger, back and forth fight. I feel

769
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Speaker 4: like no one mentions that fight anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. I don't know if I have

771
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Speaker 1: a hear me out fight in the sense of like

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Speaker 1: one that people like, didn't like or didn't fully appreciate

773
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Speaker 1: in that way. I have more like a bunch of

774
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Speaker 1: forgotten fights that people just don't know about anymore, you know, Yeah,

775
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, Chris Wyman versus Mark Munoz is actually

776
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Contender fights. I just fucking love

777
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: that fight. It was one way traffic, but I just

778
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: loved it. You know, Rampage versus Kevin Randleman is like

779
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: just an amazing, amazing contest. I don't know. I don't

780
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Speaker 1: have a good one for this one. I have more

781
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: just forgotten fights in this particular case, all right, from Hunter.

782
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Speaker 1: I'm a newer UFC fan. My first card I've watched

783
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: was McGregor versus Cowboy. Oh you are very new. Is

784
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Speaker 1: it weird that I actually like keeping up with the

785
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: storylines and the drama more than the actual fights. I

786
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Speaker 1: enjoy watching shows like mk Ariols and just YouTube videos

787
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: in general of the drama in the UFC world and

788
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: predictions of the fights more than like watching the actual fights.

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Speaker 1: Is this a common thing? Or am I on my

790
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Speaker 1: own hair? Long?

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Speaker 2: On?

792
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: Look?

793
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Speaker 1: Isn't this what has happened to the modern NBA? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean I guess, yeah, that's not a bad cal

795
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Speaker 4: I agree with Hunter completely though, dude, Like not that

796
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: I'm not invested if there's not a rivalry, but like

797
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: rivalries and storylines, drama, all that shit make it so

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Speaker 4: much better. I always say, the most hyped I've ever

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Speaker 4: been for a fight was DC Jones two or Jones

800
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: DC two and the build to that was so good.

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Speaker 4: They truly hated each other.

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Speaker 3: You felt it. Go watch that promo.

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Speaker 4: I still say BT Sport put out like the best

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Speaker 4: promo I've ever seen for that fight. It's still like

805
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: it'll give you chills. It's like four minutes long. It's

806
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: so good. Uh yeah, anytime there's a storyline, and I'm

807
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: way more invested.

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Speaker 1: Dude, when they when they traded Luka Doncic from the

809
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks to the LA Lakers. I've seen maybe one

810
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: quarter of the LA Lakers play since then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same look.

812
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Speaker 1: I read every possible think piece and podcast about why

813
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Speaker 1: the Mavericks would do something like that. So to his point,

814
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Speaker 1: there's just a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the Internet age or the

817
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: way we consume media these days. I'm not sure exactly

818
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Speaker 1: what fully explains it, But for I know a lot

819
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: of people are this way about the NBA, and you

820
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: can definitely count me as one of them. For sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch. I mostly watch the Wizards, who are

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Speaker 1: real bad, and then that's really about it. You know,

823
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Speaker 1: I didn't watch hardly. I mean I've seen it again

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Speaker 1: about a quarter of you know, Luca playing for the

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Speaker 1: for the for the Lakers. Here we go from Joseph. Okay,

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Speaker 1: besides pornography and combat sports, what is a topic you

827
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Speaker 1: guys know a lot about but typically keep to yourself.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting one, Long Island. Whyn't you give me one? Yeah,

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00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: that's a hard one, man.

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Speaker 3: I don't really keep a lot to myself as far

831
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Speaker 3: as my interest.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, I know he said besides pornography and

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Speaker 4: combat sports, but I feel like combat sports is one

834
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Speaker 4: of those things when I'm out with people that I like,

835
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Speaker 4: people don't even realize I'm like a big MMA fan,

836
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: and then like they'll mention like, oh, that guy looks

837
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: like he's ready to fight, and I'm like, oh, you

838
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: guys see the fights last night, you know, And I

839
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: start rambling and they're like, what the fuck is this

840
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: guy talking about?

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00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: Something else? Though?

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00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: Like beer, I'm pretty into beer, like brewing it and

843
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: shit like that, and like me and my girlfriend always

844
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: go to breweries, and like, I don't know, I feel

845
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Speaker 4: like I'm that guy who could tell you like, oh,

846
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Speaker 4: you should get this beer if you like this kind

847
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: of thing or that. Yeah, I don't know, so that

848
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Speaker 4: would be something that I feel like I know a

849
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Speaker 4: lot about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't really talk. Yeah, I mean, like as a

851
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Speaker 1: forty five year old dad, you know, I don't know

852
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Speaker 1: how much time I have for stuff like this. But

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Speaker 1: what I would say is.

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Speaker 3: It's bird watching.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about bird watching. That's the thing.

856
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't, I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing, you know, like.

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Speaker 3: What I look at them? I mean, what else is?

859
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: You have to kind of study their habits. You have

860
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to like sit in a place and like see who's there,

861
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: what do they do, who's interacting? You know what? What

862
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: birds show up?

863
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: Just a lot.

864
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, No, I don't, I don't know. I

865
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: don't know hardly what I'm looking at. What I will

866
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: tell you was kind of interesting is and I made

867
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: this pot before and like here I'll show it to you.

868
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: Do you know what this is? No, No, it's not

869
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: a sex toy. It is uh, it's a actually I

870
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: think their logo is on it. These are toe spacers.

871
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, we've heard about your toes.

872
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct toes dot com if you want to get it. Dude,

873
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I have what do I know a lot about? Well? Again,

874
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: what I feel like I know a lot about is

875
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: barefoot shoes because I understand something bro I had to

876
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: worst parents growing up, right, And I never had cool

877
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: shoes growing up, never, just it didn't exist. And then

878
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: I finally, you know, get into my twenties and I

879
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: finally get a little scratch in my thirties, and I'm like,

880
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: you know, man, I want to wear the shoes I

881
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: was never able to wear growing up. That's what I

882
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: want to do, and I was after I got married

883
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: and stuff I was wearing. Oh, I have so many

884
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Jordans sitting in my closet that I just fucking loved.

885
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: They didn't break my feet. But what I realized was

886
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: doing jiu jitsu and doing wrestling, I had a very

887
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: very It was not I didn't have a hard time

888
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: pressing off my big toe on my left foot. I

889
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: could not. I could not accelerate pushing off my big

890
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: toe because it was slanted in like this. And I

891
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: didn't understand what was happening. I didn't know anything about

892
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: like these conditions or bunions or this. I didn't know

893
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: anything about it, and so I just had to look

894
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: into it and look into it and look into it,

895
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: and there is obviously still a lot that is unknown.

896
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: There is some data that you know is undercutting to

897
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: a degree of the barefoot movement. However, getting your toes

898
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: to splay rather than being this or like, you know,

899
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: this one being like ganked over like that, is actually

900
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: very very important for balance. Balance becomes extremely important as

901
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: you get older. There's just a lot of really valuable things.

902
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: And I could I literally could not use it to accelerate,

903
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: and I would always have to tape my big toe

904
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: to my secondary toe, which would kind of pull it

905
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: over into place, and then I could accelerate off of it.

906
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: But you know you have to constantly wrap before class

907
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: if to constantly unwrap, and then you might be wrapping

908
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: your fingers too. It just became I was like, why

909
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: why is everyone else able to like bend their big

910
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: toes like this? How am I the only one who

911
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: can do it? And it led me down this path

912
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: to a place where I'm now getting barefoot shoes. And

913
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: you saw the ones I had in the studio, like

914
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: they're good for your feet, but the fashion sense behind

915
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: them is horrendous. So dude, I have bought barefoot shoes

916
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: from Germany, Switzerland, China, the United States, various parts of

917
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: the United States. All I mean, I have vivo lems

918
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: feel grounds, bear, bear, I mean, I just could go

919
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: on down the list. I have so ultras. I I mean,

920
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: I have I have nothing but this at this point.

921
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: And what I can say is my feet feel a

922
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: lot better. But I would still say that that one

923
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: big toe has gotten better, way better. I can excelerate

924
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: off of it a little bit now, but it's still

925
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: messed up like it is. It's a My wife thinks

926
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I got it from wearing military boots that like, you know,

927
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: that's that scrunch your toes together, you know, I know

928
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: it's it sounds boring, due, But then when you get

929
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: older and you're like, dude, shit starts like not working

930
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: and you have to like actively invest to make parts

931
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: of your biology work that you took for granted. That's

932
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: the part that you don't really appreciate when you're too young.

933
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: You like you you have to be on top of it.

934
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: So barefoot shoes and like, the barefoot movement is something

935
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I've actually read a lot about and spend a lot

936
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: of time experimenting personally. So there you go.

937
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: I was boring.

938
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: That was a great, Luke Thomas answer. There, I'm an

939
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: expert in barefoot shoes. People are gonna love that.

940
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody else like in my orbit who

941
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: wears them, so like it's just a thing that I

942
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: have to kind of like, you know, go down the

943
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: rabbit hole on all right? From Gabe Luke Squared, Favorite

944
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: and least favorite bits from the show and Mima as

945
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: a whole. I feel like you got to answer this

946
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: one favorite and least favorite.

947
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: All right, Well, least favorite. I wrote this down the

948
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: best boyfriend joke.

949
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, that's this is the least favorite

950
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: skit and in this show from an Australian Man's nutsck

951
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: is a close second.

952
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: I mean that's gotta be up there. Favorite.

953
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, I could go on for days with

954
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: I couldn't even like think of them all but like

955
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: whippets in an RB's parking lot, like Joseph a bank

956
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: O bro you watching Max and Volk forty nine times,

957
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: like Duncan in high school.

958
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: Drinking fifty beers.

959
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: You know, like there's just I could go on for

960
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: days with all the good ones. But uh yeah, I

961
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: just love when you guys poke at each other with

962
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: funny shit.

963
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you get to a point in life

964
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: where you're like, who am I trying to impress?

965
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

966
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: Whom I try to impress? You know, it doesn't matter anymore.

967
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: So that gets from MMA as a whole, though, or

968
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: best bits.

969
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I we never fully fleshed out High Court. We got

970
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: a little close with it, but the whole idea of

971
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: High Court, it was my idea. The whole idea of

972
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: it was.

973
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: Get high as shit.

974
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: No, well yes, but the plan was dress up silly,

975
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: act silly. But take a topic that actually is an

976
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: interesting question, at least in theory, right, Try to find

977
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: an interesting question you could debate, is John Jones are

978
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: greast of all time despite all our ped feelers, something

979
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: like that, right, and then try and actually make a

980
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: good faith argument around it. We never quite fine tuned

981
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: it enough by doing it enough, so I think it

982
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: had like early promise, but I think we were just

983
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: scratching the surface on that. But High Court is one

984
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: to me that I loved if even though I could

985
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: admit it needed much more fine tuning.

986
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: You know, I feel best bits from like MMA characters

987
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: like I feel like Tito doing the the Grave Digger

988
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 4: after he getting like like that's a that's a good

989
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: like bit right, we gotta shout that out at Johnson.

990
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: I know it's recency, but like John Silva barking, I

991
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 4: don't know why I fucking love that shit.

992
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't love that.

993
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: I love it because he doesn't even he does it

994
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 6: when him and his team, like he was on Embedded,

995
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 6: him and his team are like putting their hands in

996
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 6: like on three, let's go, and like they're like, let's go,

997
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: and he just does it in the gym and ship.

998
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, this guy is a wild man. I love it.

999
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I was not into that. I was like, okay, just

1000
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: fight him, please.

1001
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: You Weewi's was good too before they like totally.

1002
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: Over, bro, you missed Paul Bintello. Don't fear me, fear

1003
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: the consequences.

1004
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did miss that.

1005
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: And they used to call Dana Blaf on the internet

1006
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: b l a F. Built like a fighter. You remember that, No, Oh,

1007
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: they used to call him Blaf b l a F. Yeah,

1008
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: built like a fighter. There's been a bunch of these,

1009
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: you know, and also like Sea level Kane, oh true

1010
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: motivated BJ kind of thing.

1011
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: You know, there's a bunch of those R three with

1012
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: a mustache was one one you know before.

1013
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. All right, let's keep this

1014
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: tri Weve got a bunch to get through. Let's get

1015
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: through these I we can, Abraham says. Looking past UFC

1016
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: three fourteen, it's pretty clear that the next true event

1017
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: of note for the UFC is going to be International

1018
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: Fight Week. What those fight nights are good, We'll talk

1019
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: about them at the end of the show. But with

1020
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: that in mind, what would your dream twenty twenty five

1021
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: International Fight Week main card be? Feel free to base

1022
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: this off the potential result of booked fights I e

1023
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: j A M versus Balal and then Defense versus Islam.

1024
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna say main event Islam to Pooria.

1025
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Now again, I would say John versus Tom, but I

1026
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: just don't think that's in the cards for International Fight

1027
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: Week at the mist MSG. Yeah yeah, so so I

1028
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: don't think it's in the cards for this. So I'll

1029
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: say Ilia versus uh uh uh is Islam. Then we'll do.

1030
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: I saw Kobe covingson leak this.

1031
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: I have the same nin and comine because of the.

1032
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: DDP versus Hamzat, which is, by the way, if they

1033
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: put those two fights together on a card that is

1034
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: that is sick. Yeah, that is sick to do something

1035
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: like that. But beyond that, I don't know who they

1036
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: would even make available to be honest with you, or.

1037
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: Like, I got three more for you. Okay, all right?

1038
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: Third title fight Pantosia KKF because it doesn't have the

1039
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: most hype around it, so you just throw it as

1040
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 4: the third title fight on this stack dass card. Uh

1041
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 4: fight below that, I'm going the winner of Ian Gary

1042
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: Carlos protest versus Sean Brady. Maybe we're killing a contender there,

1043
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: but like winner of that should get the next title shot.

1044
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: At I don't I don't hate that. I don't hate that.

1045
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: And then opening your card Charles olvera Patti pimblet.

1046
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: Oh right, dude, that is a That's a fantastic card.

1047
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't have one better than that. That is great.

1048
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are some bangers.

1049
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: What's your what's your early thoughts on those two?

1050
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: For the main and Comaine Uh Islam Ili, I'm going Islam.

1051
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 4: You can't bet against Islam. I do think Ilio probably

1052
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: makes it the closest anyone has besides maybe VOLC the

1053
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: first time. But uh yeah, like I see it go

1054
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: in the distance Islam though taking it home, DDP hams

1055
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: out is it's so interesting. I feel like, if Hamzat

1056
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: can finish him in the first two rounds, obviously he'll win.

1057
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: Otherwise that goes past round two. I feel like it's

1058
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: Ddp's fight. Mmm, Like I think if he can survive

1059
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: ten minutes, he can survive fifteen more, you know.

1060
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting is I feel like Ilia

1061
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: versus Islam is an interesting fight, but the co main

1062
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: event is also an interesting fight again, assuming they make

1063
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: it in this way. Yeah, but for like totally different reasons.

1064
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: Like in other words, the thing that makes Islam Ilia

1065
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: interesting as a fight not so much the stakes and

1066
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: like who wins the title, but like just the fight

1067
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: itself is like completely distinct from what makes the comin

1068
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: event interesting. Fight, which is a one is a like

1069
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: super tactical, technical, you know, very careful fight. It has

1070
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: to be fought. I'm sure it would be open up,

1071
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: but like, you know, you like, the consequences of getting

1072
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: it wrong against either guy is quite dire. Whereas I

1073
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like the comine is gonna look

1074
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: like a three Stooges sketch sketch you know what I mean,

1075
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be and and you this is what

1076
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean about MMA. It's like so open in that

1077
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: way where you can get all these like wild ass

1078
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: kinds of different fight complexions, all right, from Abraham. If

1079
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: you had to pick a specific division in period of

1080
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: time as the best all time, what would it be.

1081
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: This would include a combination of both the quality of

1082
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: fighters competing and the fights they produced. For example, twenty ten,

1083
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: twenty eleven light heavyweight, when Jones made his title run,

1084
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good one. Well, what else would

1085
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: you say? Long Island? Look, I mean one of Saint

1086
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Pierre's eras too. He was beaten up tough guys left

1087
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: and right.

1088
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 3: That's a good call.

1089
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like featherweight in like that twenty

1090
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen era where you got like Jose Aldo, Chad Mendez,

1091
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: Frankie eggar connor, Max Pourier, even like Cub Swanson was

1092
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: up there and they're all like kind of fighting each other.

1093
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: So that was fun.

1094
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say heavyweight, but in particular Pride Circle two

1095
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: thousand and three and four and maybe even five, when

1096
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: Fador really began to open up and you know, beating

1097
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: no Garett, but you had no Gara, you had you

1098
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: had cro Cop, you had fad Or you had to

1099
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: an extent, Bob Sap you have. You had a bunch

1100
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: of crazy crazy and more than that, Heath Herring and

1101
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Kazuyuki Fujita and like, you know, again, this is what

1102
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: I mean about like forgotten fights. Have you ever seen

1103
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Fador nogharo one? Yes, like where he like, they're they're

1104
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: amazed at his ground and pound. They'd never even seen

1105
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: ground and pound like that. You know. I remember Stephen

1106
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: Quadras being like, I've never seen ground and pound like this.

1107
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody with submission defense like this. You

1108
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: forget what good heavyweights look like. That kind of thing,

1109
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: to me is kind of lost. But that era, the

1110
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Pride heavyweights, dude, the Pride heavyweights were doing that when

1111
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: Tim Sylvia was fighting Gan McGee. You know what I mean, Like.

1112
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: It's hard to judging era in the last like ten

1113
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: years to or well, let's say like last five years too.

1114
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: Like we might be going through golden eras of divisions

1115
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 4: right now, but until their careers are done, it's hard

1116
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: to like really put it in perspective.

1117
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 3: Of where it stands.

1118
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: In current featherweight is so I'm saying there's a lot

1119
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: of good, believably good.

1120
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, weight weight, They're all good.

1121
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all yeah. I don't know if those are

1122
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: the two. I don't know if current lightweight is like

1123
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Golden Era. We'll see. But to your point, like, all

1124
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: of them are good, yeah, all of them all? Right?

1125
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: From Emilio. Hi, I'm forty one from Peru. I've been

1126
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: a fan of the show since episode one and long

1127
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: time hardcore fan since UFC one. I do find myself,

1128
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: he says, losing a bit of interest in the sport lately,

1129
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: missing some fights, skipping cards even But my main problem

1130
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: is that I keep falling asleep during the main events

1131
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: because they are so fucking late. Do you have any advice,

1132
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: as a fellow forty plus for losers to stay up

1133
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: so late to watch the fights? I get paid to

1134
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: do it, so I just get paffinated, you know what

1135
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know how to answer that question,

1136
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: because here's what I'm guessing. He's drinking or smoking and

1137
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: then he's you know, by the time the main event

1138
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: comes on. I can't help you there, brother, I got

1139
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: to be sober for these you know.

1140
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: You just got to keep drinking through it.

1141
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: You know, if you're like done drinking for the night

1142
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 4: and then plan on watching the fights, you're obviously going

1143
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 4: to fall asleep. I can't answer this because I'm not

1144
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 4: over the age of forty yet. But tune into Main Carmenute,

1145
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: tune into Luke Thomas.

1146
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Watch along. We'll keep you awake, bro, We'll keep you.

1147
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Like people always ask me, like

1148
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: you know, they ask me questions that are relevant to

1149
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: my demo, like age, how long I've been watching the sport,

1150
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, but they ask it from the perspective

1151
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: of a fan, and it's like I have a different

1152
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: relationship to the sport, so the things that happen around

1153
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: me don't happen to fans. Like in other words, I

1154
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: can stay up late and my wife will cover it

1155
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: because it's my job. So we just understand taking turns,

1156
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, in these ways. Whereas you know, I don't

1157
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: know if other marriages would be like listen, I'm not

1158
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: letting you stay up forty plus saturdays a night or

1159
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: a year, and then you know, waking up at noon

1160
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: on Sundays like, I don't know how that flies for

1161
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of families. You know what

1162
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we pull my cherirupol exactly. I'm in the

1163
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: same boat, though.

1164
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 4: I mean I could call you the best husband ever

1165
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: with that last quote, though, you know, wasting Saturday night

1166
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: making her do everything, just saying lu.

1167
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I paid my dues. You understand hid All right?

1168
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1203
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: All yeah, all right, let me think here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah sure, Uh, okay, I'm gonna skip sixteen. Oh I

1207
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: like this one. How about number seventeen from Eric b

1208
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: and rock him best food scene on the East Coast?

1209
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: That isn't NYC Okay, we got to go to the

1210
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: New Yorker here rolling his eyes, what do you think?

1211
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to answer this question. I feel

1212
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 3: like you're gonna have a good answer for this.

1213
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I will. I will tell you

1214
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: what my favorites have been. So I mean, listen, first

1215
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: of all, if you go to any major city, it's

1216
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: not that hard to find good food. You know what

1217
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean? Tell that to Iowa and the Mexican Well

1218
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: their Mexican food is I mean, they're just stealing from

1219
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: those people. It's it's Miami. Oh you know what our

1220
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: producer says, Miami. I'm inclined to agree it might be Miami.

1221
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: I found the food in Miami to be outrageously good,

1222
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously it depends on like your culinary preferences,

1223
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, but like I I mean, and obviously you know,

1224
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: from Mexico to Argentina, Hispanic food is wildly different place

1225
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: to place. But in terms of like getting all of

1226
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: that represented in one place and you know, all of

1227
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: it being but some of it's obviously very expensive, but

1228
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: much of it can be quite affordable too. Miami's up there, bro,

1229
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 1: Miami's is good.

1230
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: I really think Carolina barbecue, I feel like that's a

1231
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: big thing.

1232
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I would say, I would say, like Charleston,

1233
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: South Carolina, I'm told has a good scene as well

1234
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: barbecue or in general in general Baltimore you know, listen,

1235
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: are where are you on crab cakes?

1236
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: I'll eat them if yeah, I would eat them. I

1237
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't order them, but I would like they were out

1238
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: on a tray or some people.

1239
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: In Baltimore or they lose their minds over crabticks. I

1240
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: like them. I don't love them, Yeah, that's right, but

1241
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, if you like them. Obviously, Maryland and Baltimore

1242
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: particular is going to be amazing for that. Philly, Philly

1243
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: has surprisingly good food. It does more than that though,

1244
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: like it's got I don't know how good to fine

1245
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: dining is there, but like decent restaurant down I found

1246
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: to be like quite plentiful. DC's has got good food

1247
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: to eat, but I think a lot of it is

1248
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: quite expensive. Yeah, I think Miami's your answer. It's definitely

1249
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: not Atlanta. Atlanta can go suck a dick. I'm not

1250
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: fuck Atlanta. All right, let's see, let me pick one here. Okay,

1251
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: how about question nineteen from Mark? All right, he says,

1252
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: from Mark, I hope this email finds you well. My

1253
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: question is whether Olivera is a good matchup against Patty

1254
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: following three fourteen. I do not know if this would

1255
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: be contingent on to Poria and timing to Poria having

1256
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: not fought since late October and Olivera late November. If

1257
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: one expects Olivera to beat Patty, what factors led to

1258
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: Patty's overwhelming technical knockout over Chandler? Where Olivera went to

1259
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: decision with Chandler last November. So it's kind of asking

1260
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: about MMA math. What is your renal math?

1261
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't love doing MMA math. Also, like.

1262
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: I don't know me and Chuck We're talking about this yesterday,

1263
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: this fight possible fight Charles versus Patty, and like, not

1264
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: that I would favor Patty, but it's certainly winnable for Patty,

1265
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: Like whereas I feel like Arman is not that winnable

1266
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: for Patty.

1267
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 3: I think you disagreed with that.

1268
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: But I I feel like Armand runs right through Patty.

1269
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: But Patty, Charles is pretty intriguing.

1270
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 4: Like we've all seen Charles pre becoming a champion, and

1271
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: I think we all still have that in the back

1272
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: of our mind, and it's like, damn, I could see

1273
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: a world where Patty turns him into the old Charles.

1274
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: I would mostly agree with that analysis. I mean people

1275
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: always ask like, oh, how could it? You know again

1276
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: play an mma math. First of all, remember you leave

1277
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: a piece of yourself every time you go into the octagon.

1278
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: You have like a blood and guts fight, which virtually

1279
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: every chan their fight is he left the piece of

1280
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: himself after that one in against OLIVERA. And I know

1281
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, you know that wasn't the worst

1282
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: beating he's ever taken, but it doesn't matter. Like the

1283
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: accumulative total can be quite bad. So I think that's

1284
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: part of it. The second part is dude, youth. I

1285
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: think people just don't understand what youth does. I mean

1286
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: we do intuitively, but like the feeling of like you

1287
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: can go up against someone who's like real skilled and

1288
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: kind of older and maybe hang or hang around a

1289
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: little bit, and then you go up against someone who's

1290
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: not a skilled but much younger, and the dude, like

1291
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: the physical differences are they can be overwhelming, quite literally.

1292
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: I think that's what you saw. Also, Fucking Patty's good, dude.

1293
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: I you know, when he came to the UFC, I

1294
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: didn't see anything impressive about him. I mean he had

1295
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: good back control stuff like that, but you know, nothing

1296
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: like crazy impressive. Dude. He's good now. He's good now.

1297
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: He's a very good fighter. And that's other part too,

1298
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: those leg kicks and that mount he had, or that

1299
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: high mount where he was high up underneath Chandler's armpits

1300
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: and he's raining down punishment. Dude, he's physical now, and

1301
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: I think that's transformed his game a little bit. Where

1302
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: if you have good back control but you're scrawny like

1303
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Mikey Mussameci, you have to be very technical, and he

1304
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: is technical. To be sure, but you can dial that

1305
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: back a little bit, a little bit to let the

1306
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: braun play out if you've got it. Dude, he's got braun.

1307
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: He's got more braun than Charles Olivera. You can say that.

1308
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's to your point. I'm not saying

1309
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: Patty's more skilled than him. But he's got more braun

1310
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: now he does. Yeah, dude, it mixed up for a lot.

1311
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: Like it mixed up for a lot.

1312
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: There's a lot of tough matchups for him.

1313
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 4: But if they like do match make it right, he

1314
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,479
Speaker 4: could definitely become a champion. But like, I don't see

1315
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: him beating Islam, I don't see him beating Ilia, I

1316
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 4: don't see him beating Arman.

1317
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: So like, if those three are in your way.

1318
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: Dude, the Arman thing. Arman is physically extremely impressive, and

1319
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: his wrestling is impressive. He's only got good ground and

1320
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: pound when the person relents to being on their back,

1321
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: not when they are on their knees or trying to

1322
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: build height. And I don't see how I don't understand

1323
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: how people don't see this. Like that's not enough. That's

1324
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: not enough to win a title. It's not especially not

1325
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: at fifty five. Of course, you know, a big punch

1326
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: can land. Anything can happen. He's got big power. Okay, fine,

1327
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: but like you have to build these other conditions into

1328
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: place in order to win, and he doesn't do that.

1329
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: At least he has it historically very well. Maybe he'll

1330
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: work on that. He's still young, right, he's still young.

1331
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm curious what his next fight is because I don't

1332
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: think they're giving him the title shot.

1333
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: Nor should they don't. I don't think that they should.

1334
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: I know that they did and that they're taking it back,

1335
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: but I actually think it's in his interest to not

1336
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, I believe that, all right. From our

1337
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: friend Daz number twenty aloha L and L. Regarding a

1338
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: Volk's technical mastery and to adjust, how is GSP similar

1339
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: or different? GSP vulk is highly unique. There are not

1340
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: many guys who try to manipulate rhythm and timing and

1341
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: distance standing up in the way that he did. Saint

1342
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: Pierre did it a little bit, or he would faint,

1343
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, get a reaction, jab cut, cut an angle

1344
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: like he's doing all the He's doing all the same

1345
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: things as well, but not as forcefully and not as concertedly.

1346
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: And not as often, right, And and the other part

1347
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: two is after he got walloped by Sarah. You know,

1348
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: after that he turned a bit more into a wrestler,

1349
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: And so it was more about just blending the two,

1350
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: which of course Volk does as well. But to me,

1351
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: Vulk is like who is You know, people always think

1352
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: of the best strikers as the guys who have the

1353
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: best knockouts, and you know, getting great knockouts can obviously

1354
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: be a function of being a great you know, a

1355
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: great striker, but another thing that makes a great striker.

1356
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: I said this before. Dude, he's made weather. He's Mayweather.

1357
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: He's manipulating these guys in ways where they can't get going.

1358
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: They don't know what else to do to pivot out.

1359
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: They are subject to having their timing disrupted, their rhythms

1360
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: and their patterns disrupted. They can't get close. When they

1361
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: do get close, they get cracked, and it just goes

1362
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: on like this. And he never puts them away out never,

1363
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: But you know, he doesn't always put them away. But

1364
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, I guess the guy like Lopez, he's just

1365
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: fighting underwater the entire time. Saint Pierre didn't do that.

1366
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: Saint Pierre was not like that. Saint Pierre were kind

1367
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: of more of a blending of the different parts while

1368
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, while also having fakes and feints and you know,

1369
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: a great job and all that kind of stuff. Does

1370
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: that make sense, I'm explaining myself clearly.

1371
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've pretty much missed the gsp era, you know

1372
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1373
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: So I was gonna let you take the lead on

1374
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: that anyway.

1375
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was glorious, bro.

1376
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: I know, he was.

1377
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Kimorno. He's the

1378
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: second best of all time. It wasn't like Saint Pierre's.

1379
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: Saint Pierre's was something different, you know. Yeah, And also

1380
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 1: he was he was a groundbreaking because it was only

1381
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: relevant to Canada. But when he got the under Armour sponsorship,

1382
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: we were like whoa. And then he got Gatorade and

1383
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: we were like holy shit, you know, and this is

1384
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: when this is when everyone was wearing their T shirts

1385
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: of press conferences and He's showing up in a suit

1386
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: and tie. It was just a different time he was.

1387
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: He was ahead of the curve for sure, you know,

1388
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: all right from Michael, I've noticed that regardless of the sports,

1389
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: so MMA baseball, basketball, et cetera. Anytime there are two

1390
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: brothers who compete in the same sport, there's always one

1391
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: that's significantly better than the other. Why do you guys

1392
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: think that is so? Who would be some brothers in

1393
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: other sports? The the Giannis and his brother in basketball?

1394
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: Just a shitload in basketball, The Lopez twins, the Morris twins, yep,

1395
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: the Three Brothers, the Grants, Jeremy Grant, oh right, the Holidays,

1396
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: Drew Holliday and his brothers. There's a lot, but uh,

1397
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 4: maybe because there's so many in basketball, I feel like

1398
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 4: we could like the Morris twins.

1399
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: They're they're arguably the same.

1400
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is it? Mark? Mark Heath and Marcus Marcus.

1401
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean they're I'm not saying they were the same,

1402
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: but there's not a huge drop off between them.

1403
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, whereas like Brooke and Robin Lopez, Brooke was always

1404
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 4: way better.

1405
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 3: Kind of thing. Oh pow and Mark Gasol. How could

1406
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: we forget them? They're both pretty they were both All stars.

1407
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: They're both pretty good.

1408
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, I don't know, man, I don't know.

1409
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: Remember do you remember Mark Hughes, Matt Hughes's brother. No, Yeah,

1410
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: he had a twin brother named Mark who was also

1411
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: fucking you know, built like one of these guys, he

1412
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: was really good. He was really good.

1413
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 4: Wayne Gretzky's brother played in the NHL. Like, there's a

1414
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 4: lot of guys that I don't know. I just feel

1415
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: like it's more of, oh, this guy's a spectacle rather

1416
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 4: than we're brothers. One of us has to be better

1417
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 4: than the other kind of thing.

1418
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: But also, like, why would brothers be equally talented? I

1419
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: mean some will be to you.

1420
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: They're different people.

1421
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: They're different people. They might have slightly different work ethics,

1422
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: slightly different focuses, slightly different genetic you know, differences that

1423
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: over time just lead to different results. Also, if like

1424
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: one is older and you know they're good, then the

1425
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: younger one is like way better. The old one might

1426
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, this, oh this is what it looks like.

1427
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: When they're really good, you can kind of just give it,

1428
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: not give up. But like, you know, realize that my

1429
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: path is limited. But also, you know, if you and

1430
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: your brother make it to the NBA, something went right true,

1431
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: Something went right true? All right from Jack, While younger

1432
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: than Chandler, is aspinall similarly at risk of wasting his

1433
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: prime waiting around for a Jones fight that may not happen.

1434
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: Would he be better off fighting someone like God and

1435
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: for the developing his skills and increasing his leverage over

1436
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: Jones in UFC? What do you think?

1437
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: I don't think the answer is fighting more, but I

1438
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 4: somewhat agree with this dude.

1439
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: How old is Tom aspinall like twenty.

1440
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: Eight twenty eight ish? I think?

1441
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 3: Let's see Tom Aspinal is thirty two, all right, a

1442
01:07:58,720 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: little older than I thought.

1443
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so heavyweight, thirtyweight.

1444
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's got he's got ten years easily left. Uh.

1445
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, because the bummer is if it does

1446
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: turn out a Chandler situation and you just waited all

1447
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 4: this time and then John just retires and it's like,

1448
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 4: well you should have fought zero gone and whoever. But

1449
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 4: like there's no clear other can there's no third guy

1450
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:20,520
Speaker 4: at heavyweight.

1451
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: So I think I think, if you're Tom right now,

1452
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: you wait. You have to. Yeah, that's too big to jeopardize.

1453
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: You have to wait. But if it doesn't happen this year.

1454
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 3: You move on.

1455
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to move on, Like you cannot sit

1456
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: on the shelf in your prime like this and waste

1457
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: this kind of time. And I grant to your point,

1458
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: who's he gonna fight? You know? These are these are

1459
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: these are questions for the UFC to figure out, not

1460
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: for you and I. But I give it this year,

1461
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: I give I give Jones every opportunity. There's no reason

1462
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: why they can't fight this year. But if this year

1463
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: falls away, that's it.

1464
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 3: Move on.

1465
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 4: If we get to like July and they still haven't

1466
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 4: announced them for MSG, then I'm kind of losing hope

1467
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 4: at that point.

1468
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, But we'll see, We'll see. I'm

1469
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: still holding out again. I'm fifty to fifty on it.

1470
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, all right? From Max? What do

1471
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: you make of a potential Drickis? Oh, we just talked

1472
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: about this. What do you make of a potential Drinckis

1473
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: versus Hamzad matchup? Is Hamza's ground game too good for Drickis?

1474
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: Or does drikus size give him an advantage? So you

1475
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: mentioned that you thought that if it went past the

1476
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: second it's Drickis's fight to lose. What happens in the

1477
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,480
Speaker 1: first two rounds.

1478
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 4: The same thing that Hamzad does in any fight, or

1479
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 4: he just glove bell rings and he's fucking shooting Anya

1480
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 4: and maybe he doesn't get him down the first time,

1481
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 4: maybe not the second time, but by the third time

1482
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 4: he's getting Drinkis down. And the real question is Hamzad's

1483
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 4: guess tank we saw him go what three rounds with

1484
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 4: uh usman, like, we've never seen him go five. He

1485
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: just can't trust it, you can't. And Drinkis is what

1486
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 4: five rounds? What three fights in a row now or something?

1487
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: So like we're close to it. He finished isy earlier.

1488
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean? Uh, yeah, I don't know.

1489
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: It's it's more of a what it like, I don't know.

1490
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 4: Hamzad's gas tank passed round two, shooting takedowns the entire

1491
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 4: that's pretty fucking tiring.

1492
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, but uh, Drick is probably more

1493
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 3: well rounded.

1494
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 4: I know that feels weird to say because Dricks doesn't

1495
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 4: really look great anywhere, But like, Hamzad is definitely a

1496
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: one dimensional guy. Yeah, flatline GM three But like even

1497
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 4: that was I don't want to say fluky, but it

1498
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: was like the first punch he threw in that fight

1499
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 4: and it connected.

1500
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, what's your take.

1501
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't there's there's

1502
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean amazing that Hamzad has been in the UFC

1503
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: all this time and we still have like deep unknowns.

1504
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: About him, right because he never fights.

1505
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: He never fights, is is aknown quantity. He's unpredictable in

1506
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: certain ways, but he's a known quantity at this point,

1507
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, is he obviously no, I mean fully known

1508
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: quantity like these guys who've got you know, that's the

1509
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: tough parrow of being a champion. We've dicussed there a

1510
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: million times where they put there's so much tape on you,

1511
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: and you've had to go through so many contenders, you

1512
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: would just become a very known and understandable quantity. Hamzad

1513
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: is not that, at least not fully. I mean, somethings

1514
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: are known, right, But that's why this fight fucking rules, bro,

1515
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: This fight rules. I really really hope they make this

1516
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: for Internet. If they, I'm gonna say again, man, if

1517
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: they make Foria Islam, and then this one is your comaine,

1518
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what else fight fans would be expecting

1519
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: at that point.

1520
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 3: To be honest, I'll take one of those as just

1521
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: the main event.

1522
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: I agreed. I'm getting greedy saying I would love you

1523
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: both but I would take.

1524
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: Either yes, yeah, for just one.

1525
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: All right from Daz. Question for Long Island, Luke, here

1526
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: we go, what was your most memorable betting win money

1527
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: one and or fight watching experience? And what was your

1528
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: worst bad beat? Great question?

1529
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 3: All right, so.

1530
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 4: Most memorable win had to be I mentioned this a

1531
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: lot here, Uh dricks duplus see over three and a

1532
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 4: half by submission, over Izzy.

1533
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: I do this thing.

1534
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 4: Called a bet generator my watch alongs where people literally

1535
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 4: just blindly vote for who's gonna win.

1536
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: They don't even know who they're voting for.

1537
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 4: It ended up being dricis, it ended up being submission,

1538
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: It ended up being over three and a half, and.

1539
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: It fucking hit. It was plus twenty eight hundred.

1540
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 4: So like culmination of all those things, like it just

1541
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 4: being randomly generated and it actually hitting and how much

1542
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 4: money we won.

1543
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: It was dope. That was awesome. Worst bad beat?

1544
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: I got a couple for you here, uh Chevchenko Grosso two.

1545
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 4: I can't remember who the underdog was, let's just say

1546
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 4: it was Chefchenko. I had a bet on Chevchenko and

1547
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 4: then I took Grosso by decision. I'm sitting there going

1548
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: as long as this fight goes to the distance, I'm

1549
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 4: cashing one of these and I'm like counting my money already,

1550
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 4: and then it goes the distance and it's a fucking draw.

1551
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 4: And I lost to all the bets. So that was

1552
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: a bummer. And uh Alex Morono Santiago Ponzinibbio, I had

1553
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 4: the over two and a half and Ponzinibbio knocked him

1554
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 4: out with two minutes and thirty one seconds left in

1555
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: round three.

1556
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 3: That was pretty bad.

1557
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 4: And I got to give Gaff a shout out for

1558
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 4: the Holloway g Chie fight. He had fucking Holloway by decision,

1559
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: which Halloway was already an underdog, and he.

1560
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: Took him by decision. He was looking like a genius

1561
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 3: the entire fight.

1562
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 4: We're like, damn, Gaff, you knew Holloway was gonna winnes

1563
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 4: and then he gets knocked out. We all lose our

1564
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 4: minds because that was one of the greatest knockouts in

1565
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 4: UFC history. Gaff sitting there stone faced like probably just

1566
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 4: lost a shitload of money, but that was one of

1567
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: the worst bad beats ever.

1568
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 3: Four minutes, fifty nine second knockout.

1569
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I had no idea. That's amazing.

1570
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: It's pretty funny, but yeah, amazing.

1571
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I went to Vegas with work.

1572
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, not the first time, the first time I

1573
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: went to Vegas in a non Marine Corps context, so

1574
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: for like my like civilian job. And I was like,

1575
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: I'd never gambled, like I've done slot machines and like

1576
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: bullshit stuff. I never sat at a table, you know.

1577
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: So I was like sat at a table and it

1578
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: was like, uh, I think it was like blackjack, and

1579
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I got two hundred and

1580
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 1: fifty bucks. I'm just gonna play it out if however

1581
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: long it lasts is how long it lasts. It lasted

1582
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: ten minutes, Yeah, it's it lasted ten minutes.

1583
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 3: It's usually what happens.

1584
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: And then you're like I was like, okay, well that

1585
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: was that.

1586
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that.

1587
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's do this if we can. Let's talk

1588
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: about there's some upcoming fights that we kind of just

1589
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: want to lean into. So obviously there's no UFC this weekend,

1590
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: and I think there's one the week after that. Let's

1591
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: talk about that if we can for just a second.

1592
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: Here Long Island Luke, which is the UFC Kansas City

1593
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: main event. I want to talk about that relative to

1594
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: another one in just a second. But let's set this

1595
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: up April twenty sixth. It's going to be Ian Gary

1596
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: taking on Carlos Projess Carlos Protest by the way, as

1597
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel. Did you watch that at all?

1598
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: By the way, no, I haven't seen. No.

1599
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: He puts out a lot of training footage on there.

1600
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: I want to lean into the future here a little bit,

1601
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: so let's let's look ahead if we can. And by

1602
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,320
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1603
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1605
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Speaker 1: We thank them for their patronage. Here, let's talk about

1606
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. What would you say is what has

1607
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: you most hyped about that fight?

1608
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

1609
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 4: Hopefully proving everyone wrong because if you guys remember before

1610
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 4: this fight was even booked, I said, ooh, Ian Gary

1611
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 4: versus Carlos practice. I think Ian Gary runs right through

1612
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 4: Carlos practice, and everyone gave me a shift for it.

1613
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: And sure, maybe runs.

1614
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 4: Right through was a little harsh on my end, but

1615
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 4: I do favor Ian Gary in this fight, and I

1616
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 4: feel like.

1617
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: It let me play Devil's advocate. Why are you so

1618
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: high on Ian Gary? Like what is it about him

1619
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: that gives you confidence? I'm not saying you're wrong. I

1620
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: just want to hear it.

1621
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 3: It's not that I'm necessarily so high on him.

1622
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 4: You know, BC likes to say his best win was

1623
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: the loss to Shavkat, Like, obviously, obviously he's half joking

1624
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: when he says that, but like somewhat agree, Like Ian

1625
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 4: Gary stock went up for me personally after that fight, Like,

1626
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 4: did I ever think Ian Gary was championed material?

1627
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: No, But after seeing.

1628
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 4: That fight, I said, you know what, maybe one day,

1629
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 4: Like he looked pretty damn good. Carlos protest similar to

1630
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 4: John Silva this past weekend, Like I just feel like

1631
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 4: you're getting all these quick knockouts. I haven't really seen

1632
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 4: you tested in your full game. I haven't seen you

1633
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: taken down. I haven't seen that. Like, Ian Gary's smart,

1634
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 4: He's going to game plan smart. He's going to get

1635
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: this fight to the ground if he needs to. I say,

1636
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: if he needs to, because for all you know, he's

1637
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 4: gonna have success on the feet.

1638
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1639
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: Obviously, there's always the threat of the knockout. Gary's never

1640
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 4: been knocked out, though, I just I don't know. I

1641
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 4: favorite Ian Gary in this fight a lot.

1642
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: Do you think if Ian Gary runs through process do

1643
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: you think he'll become a fan favorite at that point?

1644
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: If he runs through to the point you read bea

1645
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: not beat him, not straight by him, smoke him.

1646
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1647
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: I kind of think this is a lose lose from

1648
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 4: a fan standpoint for Ian Gary, because you're giving me

1649
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: that look. I mean, Ian Gary's already not very liked,

1650
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 4: and Carlos Protess is like loved by everyone just for

1651
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 4: the fact that he smokes cigarettes.

1652
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: Like that's how that's how you become liked. Is you

1653
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: beat heroes? People think people? Yeah, I know carl S

1654
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: Potch is school. Like the fact that he smokes you know,

1655
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: Menthols or whatever is fucking awesome. But like, this is

1656
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: the same thing with Supportia, Like, oh, he beat Vulcan,

1657
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: everyone hated him. Then he beat Max, another beloved fighter,

1658
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: and then you notice the worm begin to turn a

1659
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: little bit. It's when you destroy the things that people

1660
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: hold deer. If you do it enough, then you become

1661
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: the thing that they hold dear. I've seen it too

1662
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: many times to think otherwise.

1663
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 4: I think the best arc for Ian would be it

1664
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 4: won't be in this fight as far as being beloved,

1665
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 4: Like he'll beat Protest, but if he beats ballall fans

1666
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 4: are gonna love him because people really just hate ballall

1667
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 4: at that point, you know what I mean.

1668
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: Like also, like it's one of those things with Vulcan,

1669
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: the same where he's talking about, you know, adversity, which

1670
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: is it. I agree that, Like, if he beats Prochess,

1671
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: that won't be the deciding factor by any stretch. But

1672
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: if he does beat Prochess and then let's say, wins

1673
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: the title after that, I'm just making something up. People

1674
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: will see him, you know, having had to eat all

1675
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: that shit and get you know, destroyed in the media

1676
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: and then come back and take on tough challenges and

1677
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: overcome them and then achieve at the highest level, and

1678
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: they'll be like, wow, he persevered, he showed all those people,

1679
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, that's gonna I mean,

1680
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: people will still make jokes about him or whatever, but

1681
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of at a bare minimum,

1682
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: you'll see a massive drop off in the negativity, a

1683
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: massive drop that.

1684
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 4: But it would have to be a finish I think

1685
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 4: if he skates by on a decision, people are just

1686
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 4: gonna go, oh, he didn't even win that far.

1687
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 3: Protest is still whatever, you know?

1688
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there is a risk there now. If Protest

1689
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: is to win, it has to be on the feet,

1690
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: and it has to be because he has more dynamic

1691
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: punching power, right, Like, I don't even know what else

1692
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: it would be at that point.

1693
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like again, is there a world where he knocks

1694
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 4: eing Gary out? Sure, but I don't see that. I

1695
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 4: think he just yeah outstrikes him through twenty five minutes.

1696
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 4: But like, even that sounds hard when I say that

1697
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 4: out loud, I'm like, I don't know if he can

1698
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 4: do that.

1699
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 3: Dude.

1700
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: Let me, Uh, do you have any betting on this one?

1701
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: All ready to go? Not yet?

1702
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 4: I mean we're still what two weeks out, So you know,

1703
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 4: I gotta money in the.

1704
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: I've got it. Our friends at DraftKings ready, Yeah, hit me,

1705
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: Carlos Procas minus one o eight, it's Ian Gary minus

1706
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: one twelve. They've got it. As a Pickham brother, how

1707
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: do you bet pick thems? You just stay away from

1708
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: them or you just parlay them.

1709
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 4: No, I mean normally I would just something like this,

1710
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 4: where we're two weeks out and I see it's a

1711
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 4: pick them. I'm waiting this out until someone becomes plus

1712
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: money because the lines are gonna fluctuate. I do have

1713
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 4: the opening. So Ian Gary opened at minus one forty

1714
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 4: whole Protest opened at plus one twenty five.

1715
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: Oh, so they're kind of coming together, maybe switching l.

1716
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 4: Moneys come in on Protest, Yeah, which I'm into because

1717
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 4: I would take Ian Gary as a dog in this

1718
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 4: fight for sure.

1719
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1720
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 4: Otherwise, if it stays a pick them like this, I

1721
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 4: probably stay away from money line and do like an

1722
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 4: over under all.

1723
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: Right, if he ekes out a decision here, you don't

1724
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: give him a title shot, right, There's just no way.

1725
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 4: No, because you got Sean Brady sitting there, you got

1726
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 4: Shavcots sitting there, like no.

1727
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. You can't jump them.

1728
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 4: That's why I like that Sean Brady winner of this

1729
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: fight fight because Shavcott's waiting in the wings. Anyway, we

1730
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 4: don't know what's gonna happen with JDM. For all we know,

1731
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 4: Bllall loses and now Islam's coming up. Like there's way

1732
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 4: too much going on up top where it makes sense

1733
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: to kind of kill off one of the contenders with

1734
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 4: this versus Brady.

1735
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It's a bit of a bottlenet going

1736
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: like kind of kind of calling a little bit of

1737
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: the herd, at least temporarily. Anyway, I think it makes

1738
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Dude, I love this freaking fight.

1739
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: There's sometimes I've said this before and I'll say it again,

1740
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: there are times, Okay, your mileage may vary. Obviously, everyone's

1741
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: mileage is going to vary, But for me formative experiences

1742
01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: in my fandom, where watching Jones as a content or

1743
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: surging watching Connor as a content. I didn't like Connor's personality.

1744
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,919
Speaker 1: In fact, I found it. Really I feel very vindicated

1745
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: that he's turned out to be like a horrible person

1746
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: because I hated his personality from the word go but

1747
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: to But but the point is is how magical was

1748
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: his rise. It was one of the most insane things

1749
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. Same thing with to an extent, not

1750
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: not as quickly but Rona Rousey. But Habib would be

1751
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: another one. I always joke about this. I did a

1752
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: sports radio show and I this was after the sale

1753
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: of the UFC, and they're like, who's the next big thing?

1754
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, Habib number get made off. And

1755
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: then I went back on the show like two years

1756
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: later when he was you know, like or maybe maybe

1757
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: was like right after the Connor fight, like three years later,

1758
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: and they're like, man, you really called it back then,

1759
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, it wasn't hard. It was

1760
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: not hard. It was not hard to figure that out.

1761
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: Because one of the most interesting times in a fighter's

1762
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: life is when they're a contender and you just don't

1763
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: know exactly how good they are, and each fight is like, well,

1764
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: can they beat They can't beat this guy, can they

1765
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: And then they do it, and then they do it,

1766
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: and then they do it. Now, obviously he lost to Rockmanov,

1767
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: but I still feel like he's young enough and he

1768
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: performed ably enough in that fight where if he wins

1769
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: this one, you know, I'm not gonna put him on

1770
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: the level of Habiver, Jones or' connor. But I'm saying

1771
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: I like this part of a fighter's career, the exciting

1772
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: surge up, the contendership que It's it's really fun for me.

1773
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 4: That's such a good call too, Like you don't know,

1774
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: I remember like Whitakers rise and like he's fighting Jock

1775
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 4: Ray and he was like a huge underdog and everyone's like,

1776
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 4: he's not beaten fucking Jockeray he knocks him out. Then

1777
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 4: he's fighting Yoel Romera. Everyone's like, all right, but he's

1778
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 4: not beating Yoel. And then he beats you twice. You know,

1779
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 4: like I love that shit.

1780
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: It's so fun. It's so funny. Everyone always thinks, oh,

1781
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: it's not fun until they get to the title and yeah,

1782
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: like the title reign, if they can have one, is

1783
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: obviously you know, like these are the biggest fights they'll have.

1784
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: But when you're discovering someone's magic piece by piece, I

1785
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know. That's to me, that's what that's what. That's

1786
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: when I get hooked on a fighter, that's how I

1787
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: same thing with support you. I was like, oh, he's

1788
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Yeah, even when he even when he got

1789
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 1: his ship rocked by Ji Herbert, I was like, oh,

1790
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: this guy is this this one's different, this one's different.

1791
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: You know.

1792
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: Now let me ask a question, because let's compare it. So,

1793
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: what we've got with the UFC is we got a

1794
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: week off coming up, and then we're back at it

1795
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: with this fight. Here at this Ian Gary Carlos protest fight.

1796
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,879
Speaker 1: But the week after the UFC is going back to Minnesota.

1797
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: They're going to go to Des Moines. I believe Minnesota.

1798
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: So again you said Minnesota, Noai Moin. Yeah, you said Minnesota,

1799
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: and then you before that, Oh sorry sorry Iowa, Iowa,

1800
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: but Midwest you know Iowa. Yeah, it's just flyover country.

1801
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm teasing Iowa. I'm teasing, Uh, which main event do

1802
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: you like better? Gary versus Protest or san Haagen versus Figuato,

1803
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Because I gotta tell you for me, both of these

1804
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: main events are freaking awesome.

1805
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no wrong answer here. I guess like you

1806
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 4: have to say Gary versus Protest is the better main

1807
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 4: event just because Protest is undefeated in the UFC four knockouts.

1808
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 4: Ian Gary I think is like eight and one in

1809
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 4: the UFC, the one loss being shov Cut. Like they're

1810
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 4: both on great right, accumulative twelve and one record in

1811
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 4: the UFC. Whereas you go the other side, you got

1812
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 4: Figgie I think is three and one at bantamweight, obviously

1813
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 4: has a longer UFC career, but mostly a flyweight, and

1814
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 4: you got san Haagen, who like is coming off that

1815
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 4: loss to Umar. Sanhagan kind of loses every time he

1816
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 4: steps up to the big name, you know, like that

1817
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 4: top three and not that Figgy's there anymore.

1818
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: I actually favorite Sanhagen in this fight, but.

1819
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 4: It might be a funner fight, it might be a

1820
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: more all action fight, but I don't think it's the

1821
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 4: better fight on paper, Like Ian Gary Carlos protest is.

1822
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: I actually so, I have a weird feeling about it.

1823
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: First of all, I think both fights will be great.

1824
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: I think you agree with that, Like, yeah, yeah, you

1825
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: just got four talented people here, so and one of

1826
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: them former champion. So there's that the fight between san

1827
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: Hagen and Figuredo might actually end up being a better fight.

1828
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: It could end up being a better fight, but the

1829
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: stakes and the intrigue of Gary and protests is significantly

1830
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: higher for me than san Haagen versus Figuredo. So like,

1831
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: I think you get good fights either way. But I

1832
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: could see it that we're midway through, you know, or

1833
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: we're now into May fourth, right the Sunday after, and

1834
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: we're like, you know what, that that last main event

1835
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: was better than the one before, But I didn't care

1836
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: as much because of the other sort of factors involved here.

1837
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: Is that a fair read for you?

1838
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 3: Agree?

1839
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 4: Also, like, I know you're not asking this, but I

1840
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: do think that Iowa card is better on paper than

1841
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 4: the Kansas City card.

1842
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I'd have to really look at them face to face.

1843
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: But just the fights that I remember here, like bo

1844
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 4: Nickel RDRs the Comaine on Iowa, Like that's so good. Yeah,

1845
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 4: there's a lot that I'm looking forward to between both

1846
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 4: of these cards, even if I'm going to side with Garrett.

1847
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm looking up odds for the May third card.

1848
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: Nothing yet for our friends of DraftKings, so we'll have

1849
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: to wait on that one, although they do have odds.

1850
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: DraftKings does have odds for that bo Nickel fight minus

1851
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: forty five bon Nickel plus two hundred RDR. Are you

1852
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna take some cash on RDR No.

1853
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: I actually think that's like a pretty cheap price for

1854
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 4: boon Nickel.

1855
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: I might just throw him in a parlay minus two

1856
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 3: forty five. That's not bad.

1857
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,439
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Speaker 1: luke very quickly. Do you bet on boxing too?

1889
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 3: Right? Yes?

1890
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: Did you bet on the Davis Lamont Roach fight?

1891
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: Yes? I had? What did I have?

1892
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 4: I think I had Dravante by decision, so I did

1893
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 4: not win.

1894
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: How would you bet the rematch? And obviously the odds

1895
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: are going to be dependent, But what would be an

1896
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: enticing bet for you? Given how the first one went?

1897
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1898
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: Again, I gotta see the odds because like, if you're

1899
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 4: given Lamont, Roach is still going to be the underdog.

1900
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 3: Let's be real, Yes you will.

1901
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 4: He'll probably be like pretty cheap, you know, like plus

1902
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:25,839
Speaker 4: three hundred.

1903
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 3: I'm thinking something like that, and.

1904
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: I would I would definitely take the over. It's going

1905
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: to go the distance.

1906
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 4: Well, true, I was gonna say, I'll probably repeat my

1907
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 4: bet and do Gervante by decision. But I'll also probably

1908
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 4: hedge it with just Lamont Roach money line worth a

1909
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 4: flyer on it.

1910
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Now our friends where of course this

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Speaker 1: is an All the Smoke production. Here our friends at

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Speaker 1: Art of War to the andre Ward Show and content

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Speaker 1: over on his YouTube channel. He sat down with Lamont Roach,

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Speaker 1: who of course has now been quite the hit a

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Speaker 1: black people think he won as a result of everything

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Speaker 1: that happened. He sat down with Lamont Roach, and it's

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Speaker 1: on this week's episode of Art of War. Andre Ward,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, sits down with the mott Roach, fresh

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Speaker 1: off of his highly publicized draw with Javonte Tank Davis.

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Speaker 1: The two discussed Roach coming up in the DMV. Let's

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Speaker 1: go alongside Tank, what went right for him on fight

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Speaker 1: night and the potential rematch. Tune into the full interview

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Speaker 1: on the All the Smoke Fight YouTube channel. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a look at this clip.

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Speaker 7: What was your read on Javonte going into the fight

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Speaker 7: him personally? I think he doubted hell hell of a talent,

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Speaker 7: hell of a puncher, super super super good accuracy. I

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Speaker 7: think that's what leads to the most of his knockouts, honestly,

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Speaker 7: but he doubt his health. He'd been doing it since

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Speaker 7: a kid some you know, that's just something I know.

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Speaker 7: So that played a that played a little a little

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Speaker 7: bit into the into the fight. I think when especially

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Speaker 7: when there's not a lot of animosity, because you got

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Speaker 7: to think a lot of people here and fought, they

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Speaker 7: just have differences. They be into it or whatever the

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Speaker 7: case may be. I don't got no problem with him,

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Speaker 7: and he don't got no problem with me. So I

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Speaker 7: think he was trying to find something to boost his

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Speaker 7: morale or get him going, or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 7: And he tried to, like like the betting me that

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Speaker 7: he's gonna knock me out and stuff like that. They

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Speaker 7: didn't go too too well for him. Oh we bet

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Speaker 7: and we sugar on it. He changed his number, got

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Speaker 7: that ship?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Got that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Got that?

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Speaker 7: He changes none of less slim m hm.

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Speaker 3: So you know, but that'd be a conversation for another day. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I went to this guy's Yeah, I went that so

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Speaker 1: funny he changed his number. It's like you ever seen

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Speaker 1: that Chris Rock sketch. It's like when I get bills.

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Speaker 1: I just moved so great, dude. I went to Lamon's gym.

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Speaker 1: I cannot overstate this to you. I was texting with

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Speaker 1: his dad because I interviewed him long before the fight,

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Speaker 1: like October before the so months and months before, and

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Speaker 1: I was texting with his dad, and his dad gave

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Speaker 1: me the address of the gym and I looked it

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Speaker 1: up on map quest and or whatever my quest Google Maps,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, then we plugged this

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Speaker 1: in and we went and it's not far from my

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Speaker 1: house actually, I mean it's like, you know, fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: minute drive. It's pretty it's pretty close. And then we

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Speaker 1: get there and it's just a Baptist church like but

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Speaker 1: not like a huge one, like a real modestly sized one,

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Speaker 1: you know, like very very very modest. And it's on

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Speaker 1: this gigantic like gravel parking lot. And I pull in

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Speaker 1: and there's nobody there. There's like nothing there, and like

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Speaker 1: you know, there's like sheds and stuff with like you know,

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Speaker 1: equipment or you know, just it looked like just detrite us.

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Speaker 1: Like it didn't look like anything. And I texted his

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Speaker 1: dad and I'm like, Yo, where's the gym? He actually

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Speaker 1: texted back, ha ha, And I was like, eventually came

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Speaker 1: out and pulled me in. Dudey it's a shed that

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Speaker 1: has like no heating, it has electricity because they run

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Speaker 1: like a giant power chord from the like like a

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Speaker 1: mile down the thing. And it, you know, like like

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Speaker 1: every amazing and perfect boxing gym. It smells like boxing

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Speaker 1: gloves and sweat and whatever. There's duct tape on everything,

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Speaker 1: everything's dirty. It was perfect. It was perfect. If you

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Speaker 1: go into a boxing gym that's a whole lot nicer

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Speaker 1: than that. Walk the fuck out. You're in the wrong place. Brother,

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Speaker 1: Let me just say that. And do they're producing world

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Speaker 1: champions in this? And I asked him, like, how do

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Speaker 1: you guys stay warm in the in the in the winters.

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Speaker 1: They have a little bit of a heating mechanism in there.

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Speaker 1: But he was like, you know, we just sparred, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just smar and sweatshirts.

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Speaker 4: I was like, fuck, bro, I remember, haf I remember

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Speaker 4: you sharing the picture of that.

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Speaker 3: I think it was on your live chat or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Photo.

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Speaker 4: It's like literally a dirt parking lot, like just warehouse

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Speaker 4: in the back.

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Speaker 1: You would you would drive by it and never in

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Speaker 1: a million years think that world champions were produced there,

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Speaker 1: Like the last thing in your mind would ever be

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Speaker 1: that they're tough, they're tough people, bro tough people. So

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Speaker 1: shouts to him. All right, but that is it for

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Speaker 1: us today. Long on, Luke, one more time. Plug what

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Speaker 1: you're doing for tonight's PFL broadcast.

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Speaker 4: Tonight, I'm doing the full Card watch along. I don't

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Speaker 4: know the time of my head what time it is, guys,

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Speaker 4: but you'll you should know by now. Just go to

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Speaker 4: PFL dot com or PFLMMA dot com, whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, full card watch along.

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Speaker 4: You could subscribe to me main Card minute, follow me

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Speaker 4: on social all that good stuff.

2010
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Speaker 3: Follow Luke to NBC.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I'm gonna be on vacation for a little bit,

2012
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Speaker 1: not too long, maybe four or five days. I'll be back.

2013
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Speaker 1: We'll have a great show for you guys on Monday.

2014
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck we're gonna talk about,

2015
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Speaker 1: but we'll figure something out. We always do.

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Speaker 3: Oh we're recapping PFL.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'll have the mighty have fallen, you

2018
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Speaker 1: know what. But the fight should be good. Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: figure it out just the same. So thanks to everyone

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Speaker 1: who made the show possible here today, thanks to our

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Speaker 1: producer Matt. Thanks to you, Long Island Luke shouts to BC,

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Speaker 1: shouts to all of you who sent questions, and of

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Speaker 1: course you can always reach the show Morningcombat at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. That's the place to go. One more time,

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Speaker 1: Morningcombat at gmail dot com. So thanks to all of

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Speaker 1: you who make today's show possible. Thanks to all of

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Speaker 1: our sponsors, we're out of here. Enjoy your weekend, folks,

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Speaker 1: and until next time, may all of your gains be loyal.