1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health. 2 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Welcome into your Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live. Matti 3 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: Glave alongside Steve Tasker. Chris Brown is out for the day. 4 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: He'll be back tomorrow. We were both out yesterday. There 5 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: was no practice yesterday. The players had an off day. 6 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Today was their first practice back from I wasn't gonna 7 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: say it's their first practice back, but actually they practiced 8 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: here on Sunday. I was going to say it was 9 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: their first practice back at Orchard Park at One Bill's 10 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: Drive here, but it was actually their second practice back 11 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: because they had a light kind of jogg through practice 12 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: on Sunday afternoon. Yesterday was an off day. Today they 13 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: were back on and man ottle Man. When I say 14 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: they were back on, they the boys were buzzing. It 15 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: was intense out there. These guys are sick of seeing 16 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: each other, they're sick of playing against each other, and 17 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: it was getting heated out there. 18 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: There was a yes, big scuffle, probably the biggest fighting camp. 19 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: Spencer Brown, Tyrrel Dotson got into it, and plus forty 20 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: of their closest friends jumped in on that one too. 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean everybody on the field was in this scuffle 22 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: finally ended up going down the ground swinging helmet the 23 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: whole thing. He didn't get much on it because there 24 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: were like too many guys crowded around, but they every 25 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: when he swung that hell, everybody was mad at him then, 26 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: because you know, you just don't do that. Goddam he was. 27 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: He stormed off Lineberry coach brought him back. You know. 28 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Then that period finally ended. They started on another period 29 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: where it's you know, they're doing some other stuff and 30 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: they were getting vocal and like, you know, they were 31 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: it was kind of like down and distant stuff. Situational. 32 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: The whole practice is a little bit of situational football, 33 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: and they were bickering about what was you know, what 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: was allowed, what was going on and on. Then you know, 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: this guy does that. And then there was like one 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: little thing that looked one little minutia thing like an 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: off sides or something that happened and McDermott stopped everything 38 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: and brought him and it was weal because the music 39 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: stopped and everybody got and they came they came running 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: up and it was like it seemed like it was 41 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: a church. I mean, it was dead silence. So and 42 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: McDermott was giving him what for out in the field 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: and you can hear some of it, and he was like, 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: you know, just basically knock it off. 45 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes you need a little reset. Sometimes you need to 46 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: come together, reset the practice, get back going in the 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: right direction, right head station and all of that. And 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: and we spoke to Josh Allen after practice. We'll hear 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: from him later in the show, but he was asked about, 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, the intensity of practice. Some are way more 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: intense than others. Today happened to be an intense practice. 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Maybe it was the fact that they were coming off 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: of an off day yesterday and we're bringing the heat 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: as we get closer and closer to cuts coming up 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: on August twenty ninth. But Josh basically said, hey, whatever 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: happens in between those lines, we know when we walk 57 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: out of those lines, we know when practice ends. We 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: are brothers, We love each other. This competition is good 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: for us. We appreciate the intensity because every guy is 60 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: fighting for their job. Every guy is fighting to be 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: the best player they can be on this roster, and 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: sometimes things get heated. Sometimes things get intense, especially this 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: was training camp practice number fourteen. We're over two weeks 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: into training camp here, and it's like waking up and 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: being with your sibling for the entire day. Sometimes it's 66 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: just like get off my back, mane. 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: And Also, I think there's a little something that happens 68 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: to the mindset when you moved from training camp back 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: to Orchard Park and you're in your kind of game day, 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: game week environment, particularly for the veterans. Steph was chirping today. 71 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: He got into a chirping match with Sara and Neil. Saran, Neil, 72 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: Tredavious White and Steph got into a chirping match or no, no, 73 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: it was Gabe Davis caught a tot nice catch on 74 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: to Davious and the offense went crazy to Davious wasn't 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: having it. He was that stuck away. He was bummed 76 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: because it was nice. Fire's great catch. 77 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, question, Jay Davis, I think that was one of 78 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: the best catches I've seen all camp. Josh Allen had 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: it on a rope to him in the corner of 80 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: the end zone. I mean Trey White was right on 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: him as well. 82 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a fifty to fifty football and Gabe 83 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: came down with it. But there's no question it was 84 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: a very serious practice. The players took it very seriously. 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: They were a higher level of intensity throughout the entire day. 86 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: They had a lot of drills. I don't know if 87 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: you noticed this, Maddie, that there were a lot of 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: competitive drills going on offense against defense. You know, they 89 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: were all thud They weren't taking anybody to the ground, 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: but they were competing. So they started, you know, then 91 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: the team they started chirping about who was winning and 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: who won each rep. And that was I think the 93 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: impetus for Sean bringing them up, you know and saying, hey, 94 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: you know, quiet, because they were they when you're competing, 95 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: these guys are competitors. They're when you go into the 96 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: locker room, they compete about everything. Who can make their 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: ball of tape into the furthest waste basket and you can. 98 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: They they have like all kinds of competitions, you know, 99 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: all of it. They compete at every moment of their day. 100 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: And so when they get out on the practice field, 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: they start they start taking the details a little too seriously, 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: like down in distance, he should have been spotted a 103 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: half a yard back, or that guy should have been 104 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: here and that guy and Sean just said, I shut up, 105 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: you know, basically, shut up, do your job, let's go. 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 107 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: Because they were because the intensity I think they were. 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: You know, there's a little hostility out there that we 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: hadn't seen in a regular training camp over at Saint 110 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: John Fisher. And I don't know whether, and I know 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: that I can remember back we're talking about this. I 112 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: can remember back it feeling different when you got back 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: in the building after training camp. 114 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: This is a time point where you come back from 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: training camp, you've been at Saint John Fisher for two 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: and a half weeks, you're back in Orchard Park. It 117 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: signals that the season is coming closer and closer, and 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: it feels closer and at and at some point within 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: camp you gotta you gotta ramp it up. And this 120 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: might be the ramp up time for this team where 121 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: where you're dialed in on things, where you're you're focusing 122 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: in on your assignment and your job. Knowing that I 123 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: saw Adam Schefter tweet yesterday it was four weeks from 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: yesterday is Buffalo's Week one game against the Jets. It 125 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: has come, It is coming soon, and we're gonna blink 126 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be here for Week one of football 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, they've got a new running 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: back on their roster that the Bill's defense is going 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: to have to be ready for. Uh. In fact, the 130 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: AFC East has two new big running backs that this 131 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: team is going to have to be ready for. That's 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: gonna be our question of the day, our Twitter topic. 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: How do dalln Cook and Ezekiel Elliott signings change your 134 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: thoughts on the division? You guys can tweet at us 135 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: at Steve Tasker, Maddi glab or One Bills Live where 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: you can give us called eighth, three five fifty. We'll 137 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: be discussing that throughout the entire show. But before we 138 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: hop into that, I want to kind of go back 139 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: to the first preseason game. We haven't had a chance 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: to break it down yet on One Bill's Live since 141 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: we weren't a part of yesterday's show, and you know, 142 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: the Bills beat the Colts twenty three to nineteen. We 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: saw a little bit of Kyle Allen, a little bit 144 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: of Matt Barkley. I think the big storyline, of course, 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: come out of that game is Damar Hamlin playing in 146 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: his first game back since that cardiac arrest, that he 147 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: suffered on January second against the Cincinnati Bengals. He talked 148 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: about so many different milestones that he's passed. Being able 149 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: to come back onto the football field full pads for 150 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: the first time, your first practice back at high Mark Stadium, 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: your first preseason game back at high Mark Stadium, and 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: this was another big milestone for not just him, but 153 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: his family members, the entire team, the coaching staff. Sean 154 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: McDermott after the game was asked about it, and he said, 155 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, I was I was talking to our athletic 156 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: training staff and I said, are you guys gonna Are 157 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: you guys going to pay close attention to him today? 158 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: You've got to have eyes on this guy today as 159 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: he suits up for his first game back, and and 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: Damar said, you know, it was great to be back 161 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: out there with the guys. 162 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 5: It was. 163 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: It was great to be in on a couple of plays. 164 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: He had that fourth and that big fourth and one 165 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: stop he said, where where the jitters kind of fall 166 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,119 Speaker 2: off after you have your first taste of live contact. 167 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: So that was probably the biggest storyline coming out of 168 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: that preseason game. But another big storyline I think is 169 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: looking at that backup quarterback spot for the Bills. Sean 170 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: McDermott was asked about it after the game and he said, 171 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: it's an open competition now. Kyle Allen was eight of 172 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: fifteen in the game against the Colts for one hundred 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: and twenty two passing yards through one interception, had a 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: fifty two point six passer rating, and Matt Barkley was 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen for one hundred and sev seventy two 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: yards to two passing touchdowns and a one fifty four 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: passer rating. Matt Barkley also spoke to the media after 178 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: the game as well as Kyle Allen and Matt Barkley 179 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: was kind of asked about you know, you go out 180 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: there and you have a game. Kyle had some good throws, 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: but on other plays he struggled, what do you see 182 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: with this? And Matt Barkley said, you know, I've been 183 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: in this offense for years. Kyle is still learning this offense. 184 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't pretty for me the first game that I 185 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: stepped in there in this new offense when I was 186 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: first about he. 187 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: Says that, but he hung forty one points on the 188 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: Jets off the street. 189 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 6: That's that's that's true. That's true. 190 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: But a first preseason game, you're your first your first 191 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: taste of a game with a new team and a 192 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: new offense. It might take a little bit of time. 193 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: But Sean mcderrant did say this is an open competition. Self, 194 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: what did you make of that? 195 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: Here's the way I say it, and I don't want 196 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: to oversimplify it, although that's it's kind of what you 197 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: have to do because we're not in the ins and 198 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: outs and nuts and bolts of and Josh was calling 199 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: plays for goodness sake, and right, I mean, I mean 200 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: it was this preseason game, and we all tend to 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: over exaggerate every bit of information. But I'll say this 202 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: one one And if I can generalize about the two quarterbacks, 203 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: Kyle Allen, you watch him out in practice. He plays well, 204 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: he's he looks good, he's got, he looks good in practice, 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: and and Matt Barkley looks he doesn't look like that 206 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: in priy. Kyle all looks better. But we've seen Matt 207 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: Barkley in games on in preseason games and in regular 208 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: season games, and Barkley shows up big when the lights 209 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: are on. He's a little bit like Josh in that 210 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: when Josh we always tend to think in those primetime games, 211 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: Josh turns it up a notch. Matt Barkley is that 212 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: guy to me. He comes in off the street four 213 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: years ago or five years ago and hangs forty one 214 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 3: points on the Jets. He gets in a Week seventeen 215 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen, I believe, or maybe twenty twenty where 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: the Jets can win, and I mean against the Dolphins, 217 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: the Dolphins can win and get in and he beats 218 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: him by himself in the second half. Josh plays the 219 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: first half of Week eighteen, and Barkley takes over for him, 220 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: and he beats him. When the lights come on, Barkley 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: plays his best. He doesn't look like it in practice. 222 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: He's a good player in practice, but he's not like 223 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: he is in these games. So and Kyle Allen seems 224 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: to be kind of the reverse of that. He's really solid, 225 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: makes the right moves right down the hat, right down 226 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: the you know, the check marks all the way through practice, 227 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: makes the throes he should make, makes good reads, but 228 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: in the he doesn't rise up during the game, which 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 3: is what Barkley seems to do. Now, there's no question 230 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: you and I both know Kyle Allen's got a bigger arm, 231 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: more physically gifted than Barkley, a little bit better athletically, 232 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: but you know, they're playing quarterback, so most of their 233 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: job is between their ears and when the lights come on, 234 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: Barkley seems to be just a little better than Kyle Allen, 235 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: even though physically and even in practice it seems the 236 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: other way. So I don't know how this is gonna 237 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: shake out. I know Matt and I said this on 238 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: the broadcast when we did the game. The two quarterbacks, 239 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: Kyle Allen and Matt Barkley. I hate to say, I 240 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: don't care if they can play quarterback. What I care 241 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: about is can they help Josh play better at quarterback. 242 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: That's their job as the quarterback room, focus on getting 243 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: the number one guy ready to play. You don't want 244 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: your backup quarterback, whoever it may be, Barkley or Allen, 245 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: Kyle Allen to take half the reps in practice, you know, 246 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: or whatever, because you don't want to get two guys. 247 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: You don't want to get Josh Allen and Kyle Allen 248 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: ready to play. You got to get Josh one hundred 249 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: percent ready to play, and Kyle's got to get himself ready. 250 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: So Matt Barkley, Kyle Allen, you know, and Ken Dorsey 251 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: and everybody in that room is focused on getting Josh 252 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: ready to play. And when you start worrying about wow, 253 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: which backup quarterback listening, there ain't nobody out there who's 254 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: going to replace Josh if he goes down. 255 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: Impossible. 256 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: So just get a guy who's going to help that 257 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: quarterback room, give yourself some some credibility at the position 258 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: when he do have to make a change if you do. 259 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: But it's a really interesting race because, like you said, 260 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: Sean was asked about it because people were talking about it. Wow, 261 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Barkley looks really good. Is this a competition and Shawn 262 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: unequivocally said yes, and today's we'll see there's no difference 263 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: because they're both gonna We're gonna see him for another 264 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. 265 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: Yep. We've got another preseason game coming up on Saturday. 266 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: That's gonna be an away game for the Bills. They 267 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: are heading to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers six thirty 268 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: kick Eastern time. So we'll see as that competition continues 269 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: to go on, there's other competitions going on for the Bills, 270 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: you know, middle linebacker, cornerback, right guard. So what else 271 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: did you make of the preseason game? Is there anything 272 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: else that stood out to you from that game? I 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: know sometimes preseason games it's a preseason game. How much 274 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: can you make of an actual preseason game? But was 275 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: there anything else that you wanted to note on that 276 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: game against the Colts? 277 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: Just I thought Sean McDermott and that I said this 278 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: as well in the open. I don't think they're going 279 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: to struggle as a staff. I don't think Sean McDermott 280 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: and his coaches are going to struggle with him being 281 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: defensive cord down. I don't. That doesn't that's not my 282 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: That's not my concern or my question. My question is 283 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: how is this defense going to look different with him 284 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: doing it? And I think it will. I think it's 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: going to look very different. I think there's a chance 286 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: this defense, while it may be a little bit more 287 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: of a roller coaster than it was under Leslie Frasier, 288 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: I think they're the high end is going to be. 289 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be spectacular for we never 290 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: really saw that with Leslie Fraser's group, and I think 291 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: we're going to get that because they're gonna take some chances, 292 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: a few more chances, and they they may get hit 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: on the back end once in a while. But I 294 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: think this is a defense that has a chance to 295 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: be special at any given moment during a season instead 296 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: of just being that that steady, tough to move the 297 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: ball against, and when the offense makes a mistake, they 298 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: pay the price and that's it. I think this is 299 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: a defense that may force more mistakes than they have 300 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: in the past. 301 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: The defensive line had some nice pressure on the O 302 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: line and on the quarterbacks that were in for the Colts. 303 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: You know, you saw Offe Richardson, Ellen Gerra and Minshew, 304 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: but I thought they did a good job of kind 305 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: of pushing the pocket there and couple got home for sacks. 306 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: And then Dane Jackson had that interception right away. And 307 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Sean mcderm was asked about it really early when we 308 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: found out, you know, he's going to be calling plays 309 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: this season, and he said, every defensive coordinator is different, 310 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, so every DC has their own spice to 311 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: the way they call the game, to the way that 312 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: they operate, to what they like on the field, to 313 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: where they pick their spots and how they blitz and 314 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: and how exotic these blitzes can get. And I think 315 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: we saw a taste of that against the Colts. It's 316 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: gonna be a more vanilla. Look, we're not seeing everything 317 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: right now. You're not gonna reveal everything in preseason football. 318 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: But you talk about time on task for everybody and 319 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: getting these reps, and I love that that coach mcdermot's 320 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: getting these reps ahead of that Week one game against 321 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: the Jets and kind of figuring out is it's not 322 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: just Okay, Sean is down here calling plays. It it's 323 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: who is helping Sean while he is calling plays. You know, 324 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: there's so many things that go on within a game, 325 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: and there's other people that are picking up his duties 326 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: that he would have as a head coach during game. 327 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: So to being able to figure all of that out, 328 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: I think and seeing, Okay, this is gonna work. This 329 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: is nice and sound. We have everything set. Everybody knows 330 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: where they need to be, or everybody knows what their 331 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: job is, you know, when Sean is busy calling the 332 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: place for the defense. So I liked what I saw 333 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: of this first game, and I think a lot of 334 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: the others plays players liked what they saw as well. 335 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: And thought it was a smooth operation. Eric Washington, the 336 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: defensive line coach of the Bills, talked to media this morning. 337 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: Eric and Sean go back to their Carolina Panthers days, 338 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: and Eric was asked of what did you think of 339 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: Sean and in his first taste of live action out 340 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: there for a preseason game, and he said, it was 341 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: like we were back in Carolina, And I don't think 342 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: he had to knock any rust off. And I think 343 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: I think everybody can agree with that. It didn't seem 344 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: like they were struggling at all or trying to struggle 345 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: to get things together. And a lot of it is 346 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: also just getting eleven guys on the field. That's a 347 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: lot when you have a roster as big as they 348 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: have right now, making sure they're getting looks from all 349 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: the players they need to get looks from too. 350 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And there was a couple of guys 351 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: on defense who young guys who well, I say young 352 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: Boogie Basham three tackled, had tackle for loss, a sack, 353 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: and a quarterback hit. And Dorian Williams played well seven tackles. 354 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: He had a team high seven tackles for the Bills. 355 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: It's interesting to see how who of the new faces 356 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: and different faces under a new defensive coordinator and a 357 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: new year, new season are going to come in and 358 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: spread their wings a little bit. Dorian Williams played very 359 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: really well in there has been had been a little 360 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: off the radar during training camp because of the middle 361 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: linebacker thing, and he had moved over and so yeah, 362 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: it was nice to see Dorian Williams have a team 363 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: high seven tackles. And it was also nice to see 364 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: Boogie Basham play as well as he did, I think. 365 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: And it's it's games like that and and stretches like 366 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: we've seen that get guys more and better reps higher 367 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: on the depth chart, like you know, taking reps with 368 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: the ones, taking reps with you know, more reps with 369 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: the ones, getting more time in the preseason game with 370 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: the ones, and either getting more time in the preseason 371 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: or getting protected and pulled out of the game so 372 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: they don't get even taken rep because the coaching says it, no, 373 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: I know what, I know a Dane exactly. That's right, 374 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: You're gonna sit down. All that stuff is It's really 375 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: interesting to see how because for the first time when 376 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: you get into these games where it's a physical risk 377 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: to be in them. You see what the coaches really 378 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: really think of guys and which guys they really hold 379 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: in highest team because they still want to play. 380 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Eric Washington said, Boogie Bashm came to play. He said, 381 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams, you could see his physicality. He's the type 382 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: of player where you can finally see what he can 383 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: offer when you put the pads on and when you 384 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: actually start hitting guys. I also thought it was it 385 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: was notable that Eric Washington said, I was really proud 386 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: of the way that we tackled. I think that sometimes 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: goes by the wayside in the first few preseason games 388 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: because sometimes it can be sloppy. Nowadays, you are you 389 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: are fully thud in training camp practices. There are very 390 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: few times when you go live that means no tackling. 391 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: And so these guys and I think Steve, you and 392 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: I have talked about it this offseason. It's the first 393 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: time they've been actually tackling guys since their last game 394 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: in January. 395 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. They there might have been stretches in 396 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: training camp where they kind of did it and guys 397 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: actually accidentally went down or whatever. But man o, man, 398 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: you and I get it too. Old guys like me. 399 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: You're sitting we're sitting up in the stands or I'm 400 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: sitting in the booth going rally. They they can't guys 401 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: can't tackle anymore, and I'm screaming at clouds. You know. Well, 402 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: the simple truth is they don't tackle as well because 403 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: they can't practice it. It used to be you every 404 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: practice was a tackling drill because it was live. I mean, 405 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: you were taking guys down all the time, and guys 406 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: just did it and did it. Now because of the 407 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 3: wear and tear, and because of the injury risk, and 408 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: because these guys are now they're not no longer rented mules. 409 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: They're prize cows, so they don't they don't put them 410 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: to the chances. Yeah, yeah, you're not mistreating your prized cow. 411 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: You will a rented mule, and none of these guys 412 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: are that. So you know, with the money and the 413 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: value that these guys have to the organization, they don't 414 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: put them at risk. They're not going to have them 415 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: dragged down in practice. They're not gonna have them rolled 416 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: up on in practice. You know, all all the million 417 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: things you can get hurt at, and so as a result, 418 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: guys are a little bad at tackling. They're not and 419 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: plus they can't tackle the same way they used to tackle. 420 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: You can't lead with your head. Me, I may as 421 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: well ben a hammer because you hit me. I hit 422 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: with my head all the time. You know, is the 423 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: way we did it. You go back and look at 424 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 3: my football cards. My shoulder pads are the size of 425 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: a refrigerator right now. These guys you can't even tell 426 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: if they're in shells or in their pads. So yes, 427 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: it is difficult to practice tackling. It's difficult to have 428 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 3: guys do it well. But today and when the pads 429 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 3: go on really finally, I think you said to Maddie, 430 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: they can't hide if they don't like it. It shows 431 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: even in today's NFL if you have I was telling 432 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: some other guys on the sidelines today, if your sense 433 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 3: of self preservation is over developed, you really can't play ball. 434 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: You can't play football. You have to be willing to 435 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: put yourself at risk, and some guys shy away from it, 436 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: even at this level. 437 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: And I think it's good for you know, putting yourself 438 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: at risk. It's good for guys like who have been 439 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: injured it's good for DeMar Hamlin to experience tackling. It's 440 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: good again. It's good for Micah Hyde to get in 441 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: there after his injury. It was his first preseason game back. 442 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: It's good for a guy like Tredevius White who is 443 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: still making his way back to the field. And speaking 444 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: of players who are making their way back to the field, 445 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: the Bill's activated linebacker Tyler Metikevitch from the active pup list, 446 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: So it's good to have him back in the lineup. 447 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: He's a big special teamer and I know the team 448 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: is happy to have him back and healthy. Also a 449 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: rotational linebacker as well, kind of filling in some of 450 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: that depth. There reports out of practice Brandon Schell was 451 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: not at practice today and reports are saying that he 452 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: intends to retire. He's thirty one years old. The Bills 453 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: just signed him this offseason. He's been a good depth 454 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: right tackle piece for this team. So you wonder where 455 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: this team goes if that is goal. If that is 456 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: the case, this has not happened yet. These are just 457 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: reports out there coming out after practice today when he 458 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: wasn't a part of anything. Reggie Gilliam was back at 459 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: practice today. Let's see who else was out there. Damien 460 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: Harris still not practicing, cam Lewis was still not practicing, 461 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: Torell Bernard also not practicing yet. Sean mcdermoy gave updates 462 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: on these guys and he said that Damian Harris is 463 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: trending in the right direction, so that's good to hear. 464 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: So getting some of these guys back day to day, 465 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: which is what you want to happen as you are 466 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: back in Orchard Park for training camp and you're getting 467 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: closer to that week one game. 468 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this it's interesting because you really have to 469 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: do it every day. I mean, we go out and 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: take attendance at practice because it's so fluid when they 471 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: get in here and they're they're on their feet all day. 472 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: They're practicing in the morning, then they do something in 473 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: the afternoon. Guys will work out in the afternoon or 474 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: lift or whatever, and somebody gets tweaked in the weight 475 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: room all of a sudden, they don't show up at practice, 476 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: and everybody scrambling around to find out how big a 477 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: story it is and how serious. Yeah, exactly. And during 478 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: the regular season, Shawn just usually goes down the list. 479 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: But in training camp, nobody's got time for that. 480 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: Too many people. 481 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's got time to go down that list of 482 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: like yeah, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy this, 483 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: there's like twelve guys who've got some form of limitation, 484 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: if not out and out being out. So they don't 485 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: do that in preseason. So in the regular season, the 486 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: guy we always have a good handle on who's in 487 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: and who's happening, and this is a little bit more fluid. 488 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Tommy Doyle and DJ Dale also had injuries during the 489 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: preseason game. Sean McDermott called more contusions more than anything. 490 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: Tommy and DJA were also back at practice today, so 491 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: I think that does it for the injury updates. Hopefully 492 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: that list gets a little bit smaller as we continue 493 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: on through training camp. We've got Eric Wood. He's going 494 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: to come on the show today at two o'clock help 495 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: us kind of look back at that Colts and Bill's 496 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: preseason game, look ahead to the next preseason game, and 497 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: just talk about where this team is at right now. 498 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: He knows what it's like being in the dog days 499 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: of training camp and trying to you know, stand out, 500 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: make a roster all of that, so we'll talk to 501 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: him about that and we've got our topic. How do 502 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: the signings of dal Cook and Zeke really change your 503 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: thoughts on the division if any are you Are you 504 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: feeling any type of way about this or are you 505 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: just like you know what it is? 506 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 6: What it is. 507 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it impacts us that much, you could 508 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: say for one team, maybe more than the other team. 509 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: And we've actually got a caller hanging on the line. 510 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: It's Tom. He's been hanging online for a few minutes 511 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 2: from the West Side and he's got some comments on 512 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: the subject. So Tom will bring you on right now. Tom. 513 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: How are you doing today? 514 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: Hey, I get them boys. I'm doing okay. I was 515 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: listening to to your question today and I thought about 516 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 5: it for a minute. And Zeke doesn't really scare me 517 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: because one he's going to New England and all they're 518 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 5: going to do is run the ball. Matt Jones can't 519 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 5: throw it, he doesn't have receivers. Yeah, they beat us 520 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 5: last year, but that was the win game. Now the Jets, 521 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 5: they scare me a little bit. But Dalvin Cook now 522 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: realize Zeke and Delvin both have a lot of miles 523 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: on because they've run the ball out of them and 524 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: both those teams previous to their being released, so they 525 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 5: got a lot of miles on and they're both injury. 526 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: They're coming off injuries last year, so the running backs 527 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 5: aren't really And and you got who's the other guy 528 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 5: for the Jets. Yeah, Breis Hall. He's coming off an injury. Now, 529 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: I hear the Jets. They got a few good backups, 530 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 5: but I mean they're like rookies, so they're not really 531 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 5: scaring me. So I mean in the passing game. Oh 532 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 5: and I want to add, the Jets don't have an 533 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: offensive line to protect Aaron Rodgers, and I wonder if 534 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 5: Rogers thought about that before he signed with them. 535 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: All right, thanks, yeah, yeah, a lot in there. Certainly. 536 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers can carefully considered what he 537 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: was doing, and they had long conversations about the offensive 538 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: line and on the weapons especially around him. No question, 539 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: I get it about Zeke. I think Zeke's going to 540 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: a place where, uh, you know that stuff I said 541 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: about being a rented view and I think that's what 542 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: Zeke really is. On a one year deal and Dalvin's 543 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: on a one year deal too, deal too, So they 544 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: have the Jets and the Patriots have no should have 545 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: no qualms about handing those guys the ball a lot, 546 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: a lot, because they don't have any future with those teams, 547 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: or at least not in writing. 548 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dalvin and Zeke both were up to eight point 549 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: six million dollars. Were you surprised to see that number? 550 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: I know it's up to So when you hear those words, 551 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: it's an incentives based salary. 552 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: I bet they're getting at least six And you know, 553 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: for those of us sitting at home, Yeah, that's it's 554 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: almost three hundred grand a game. 555 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: Which how much? Yeah, with how much we've talked about 556 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: running backs this off season and running backs not being 557 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: happy with what they're being paid or thinking that they're 558 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: worth more than the NFL is saying they're worth. And 559 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: the Zeke is Zeke deal is worth up to six million, 560 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: Delon Cook deal is worth up to eight point six 561 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: million dollars? Do you think that's fair pricing? Do you 562 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: think it's it's crazy? After we've we've spent some shows 563 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: talking about, well, running backs are deserve this now in 564 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: the NFL, the ten question what scheme you're in? 565 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: I think that's a I think that's kind of the 566 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: going rate for a quality NFL. It's in fact, it 567 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: may be a slightly low. If Dalvin gets the eight, 568 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: that's a good deal on a one year deal for 569 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: a proven player at other positions. Uh. Leonard Floyd got 570 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: just around that for a one year deal with Buffalo. 571 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: I think that's what you're looking at in one year deals. 572 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: It's it's excellent money for the rest of us, uh, 573 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: and it gives them a chance to, you know, have 574 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: some life changing money on a one year deal. And 575 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: what the club gets out of it, to me is 576 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 3: that they're gonna be guys that are gonna give him 577 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: a good effort because he wants to sign another one, 578 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: right So there's you know, he doesn't have to sit 579 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: back and then wait for a contract. 580 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: Here. 581 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: Everything's a contract here for these carriers, and I think 582 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: that there's something in that for the club as well. 583 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: So I do think these prices are I think it's 584 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: the going rate. Maybe Zeke's a little less, which is 585 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: New England's way of doing business, But maybe New England 586 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: made him some assurances and said, hey, we'll we'll give 587 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: you a chance. We're gonna we're gonna hand you the rock, 588 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: so you're gonna have a chance to have a really 589 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: good year this year, and you can hit it out 590 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: of the park next year. Although next year he's gonna 591 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: be a year older and have that many more carries 592 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: on his on his odometers, So I don't know if 593 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: it makes much sense as a running back. 594 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: We'll share our thoughts on that later in the show. 595 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: Coming up at too, we've got Eric Wood joining us, 596 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: and next we're gonna hear from Josh Allen. He talked 597 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: to the media after practice and had some things to say, 598 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: So stick with us here on one. Bills will be 599 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: right back. This is when Bill's Live, presented by Collide 600 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. All Right, we talked about 601 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: the intensity of today's practice. It was training camp practice 602 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: number fourteen, so this team has been at it for 603 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: a while now, and Josh Allen spoke about that intensity 604 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: of today's practice. So let's go right over to Josh 605 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: Allen to hear what he had to say after practice today. 606 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 7: See, we're just working to compete and get better, and 607 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 7: you know, we want to be great. Sometimes you go 608 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 7: through practice like that where both sides want it really badly, 609 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 7: both guys, both sides are storming to the ball, just 610 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 7: trying to make some plays and you need those practices 611 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 7: that makes your team better. Was that one a little 612 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 7: bit more, I guess intense than usual. I mean, I 613 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 7: think all of our practice have their moments. I think 614 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 7: this one maybe the most constant. You know, and and 615 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 7: again it's, uh, it's expected, it's it's it's deserved. 616 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: Exactly. 617 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 8: Hey, could it ever times when you maybe see stuff 618 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 8: back on tape after something like that that you feel 619 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 8: like you've got to go say something to one of 620 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 8: the guys or is it ever get to that point? 621 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 8: I mean, because in the heat of the moment, guys 622 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 8: say things. Just do you ever feel like you got 623 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 8: to say something back to him later? 624 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 7: I think it's it's well understood on this team that 625 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 7: everything that happens in between the white line stage within 626 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 7: the white lines, we love each other as a team 627 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 7: that gets along extremely well. Our locker rooms fantastic. We 628 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 7: spend a lot of time outside the facility together. At 629 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 7: the same time, we're grown men and we want to win. 630 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 7: You know, we don't want to give the defense anything. 631 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 7: The defense doesn't want to give us anything. So I'd 632 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 7: be worried if it was the opposite. 633 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: To be honest, it seemed at one point like you're also. 634 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 7: Wait, actually, I don't know he's been asked. 635 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 5: Never mind. 636 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 7: Every time I walk past him in the locker room, 637 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 7: he's got his playbook open, he's writing stuff down. He's 638 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 7: trying to learn our offense as well as he can. 639 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 7: He's been making some plays. I think he played extremely 640 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 7: well in the preseason game. And you know, he's he's 641 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 7: he's got good body language. He's been easy to throw to, 642 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 7: and uh, I know that he's he's impressed a lot 643 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 7: of people guys on the team, you know, they they 644 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 7: love having around. Doesn't really say much. He just goes 645 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 7: out there and he wants to get better. So I 646 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 7: know he's had a few stops around the league, and 647 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 7: you know, he's he's he's a few years into this league, 648 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 7: so he knows the business side of it by now. 649 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 7: But he's just coming here and he's been a professional 650 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 7: about how he's handled things, and it's been it's been 651 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 7: really fun to fun. 652 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 9: To watch, Like get a chance to call a couple 653 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 9: of plays on Saturday, told you that it was fun, 654 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 9: you know, and just to go out there and call 655 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 9: some some plays for Bark And I don't know if 656 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 9: that continues or not, but it was it was fun. 657 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 7: It felt like you were playing playing Madden out there 658 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 7: was it was a it was a lot of fun. 659 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 8: Those plays to see how they won. 660 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 661 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 7: When a game on the quarterback room, I parked up 662 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 7: a little bit and the bark This is the reason 663 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 7: why I called this play, right, I saw the so 664 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 7: I got my my coaches hat on at that point. 665 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 7: During the meeting. As soon as those plays are down, 666 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 7: was like, a these are all dorses plays. It's fine. 667 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 5: So it's funny. 668 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 7: I mean, I think I think Barkley was six for 669 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 7: six during those plays, but in fairness, he was at 670 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 7: seven of eight or eight of six or whatever it 671 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 7: was seven or eight or eight or nine with Dorsey 672 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 7: calling the place too, So you could have called a 673 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 7: bunch of stuff for Barkley that game. He was he 674 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 7: was feeling it. One said, one of the biggest adjustments 675 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 7: is just learning a new offense. What are some of 676 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 7: the ways you've helped him kind of adapt and adjust? Yeah, 677 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 7: I mean, just if he's got questions, just trying to 678 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 7: have that open communication, the open line of communication. He 679 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 7: does such a good job. He's a he's a smart, 680 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 7: smart player. Obviously, he's been around the league for the 681 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 7: last few years, one of my my best buddies, so 682 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 7: we can talk about literally anything. So to have him 683 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 7: in the room and learning things and seeing things, and 684 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 7: obviously me and Bark we've known the system for for 685 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 7: a lot a lot longer time. There is an adjustment 686 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 7: period with this this system. There's a lot of stuff 687 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 7: that goes in, but once you get it, it's it's 688 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 7: a fun offense to play in. And he's he's starting 689 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 7: to get to that point where it's coming kind of 690 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 7: comes second nature to him, which is fun to see 691 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 7: when he'sut there in the practice field. In years past, 692 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 7: when you've gotten snaps in preseason games, what are you 693 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 7: trying to accomplish with those snaps that you're getting making 694 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 7: sure that I'm seeing the defense, you know, pre snap 695 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 7: post snap reads. Alously, you want to go out there 696 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 7: and you want to play well, you know, because I 697 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 7: think they give you gives confidence to to every everyone 698 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 7: around you. At the same time, it's it's pre season, 699 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 7: you know, you you hope there's no mistakes, but you'd 700 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 7: rather have him now than during the season. So you 701 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 7: can kind of go back and talk about them and 702 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 7: correct them. So I'm not sure what the plan is 703 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 7: the next week or next two weeks, but I'm I'm 704 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 7: ready to go at any point. 705 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 8: Today after he's just a little bit of time. 706 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 5: What was that like? 707 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 7: It was great and throwing to the tight ends, got 708 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 7: an extra guy guy back there, and you know, he's 709 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 7: kind of our full back, he's our second or third 710 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 7: tight end. Sometimes he's our running back. You know, he's 711 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 7: a big special teams guy, just a Swiss army knife. 712 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 7: So it's good to try to get him back into 713 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 7: the flow of things and just kind of plugging him 714 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 7: in and out again. A guy that's worked so hard. Uh, 715 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 7: he deserves everything that he's gotten in his career so far. 716 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 7: And you know, he doesn't doesn't talk, he just goes 717 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 7: to work. And you know, it's inspiring the guys. 718 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 8: It sicks for you. 719 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: You and Sean obviously closed him now as a defensive coordinator. 720 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 9: It's a little bit of John a little chirping out there, 721 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 9: just kind of how much fun is that and and 722 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 9: kind of ramps up the intensity. 723 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 7: It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. 724 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 7: I think again that we're we're competitive guys, you know, 725 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 7: by nature this is this is our job, this is 726 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 7: what we do. It's who we are to go out 727 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 7: there and put our best foot forward each and every day. 728 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 7: And you know, it's it's it makes practice so much 729 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 7: more fun, competitive, and I think it gives us an edge, 730 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 7: and I think that's something that again we need on 731 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 7: this team. And these practices they tell you a lot 732 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 7: about certain guys and and how your team is going 733 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 7: to react to certain things. And uh, you know, it's 734 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 7: it's fun to be a part of that competitive ed. 735 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: I know you never want to throw an interception, but 736 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: is there someone that is most annoying. 737 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 4: When that happens? 738 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 7: Mika, just because I love them so much. That's that's 739 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 7: my guy. We we talk, We talk a lot, talk 740 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 7: a lot of trash too, so you might could go 741 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 7: at it, but it's it's a lot of fun. 742 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: See that throw. You head over to the game to Gabe. 743 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: That catch that Gabe made overall strain White for a 744 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: touchdowns a. 745 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 7: Good, good, good catch, you know, went over the top, 746 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 7: tray was in a good position. Gabe was able to 747 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 7: come down with it, and I think it was fourth day. 748 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 7: So we need it as an offense. We needed it 749 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 7: as an offense and we got it. You know, we 750 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 7: can rely on Gabe to make those types of catches. 751 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: You the best trash talker, and your name has come 752 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: up quite a lot. 753 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: Do you have a response to that? 754 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: Would you call out Bill's. 755 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 5: On the healthware? 756 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 7: I agree to disagree with that. I don't talk trash Steph. 757 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 7: Steph's a good trash talker. I like the he talks trash. 758 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 7: I think Jordan Phillips can talk some good trash too. 759 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 7: Those are my two guys. Yeah, Gabe's constant, you know. 760 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 7: I think maybe that's why it picked him, just because 761 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 7: it's it's just kind of him. You know, he doesn't 762 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 7: really have a switch. It's just always on trash talk. 763 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 8: To you, is it quality or quantity? 764 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 7: It's the quantity of the quality. 765 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: You don't agree with that? 766 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 8: Do you think what you say is not? 767 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 7: Is that the way you look at him? I'm just messing. 768 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 7: I just yeah, we're just having fun. 769 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh, Josh Allen messing with the media after a practice. 770 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: Tell me I haven't heard that before. I definitely have. 771 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: He likes to give those responses where you kind of 772 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: scratch your head and you're like, Josh, are you joking 773 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: or you being serious right now. He was asked of 774 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: being a trash talker and he said, I agree to disagree. 775 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: He did say that Steph Diggs and Jordan Phillips are 776 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: good trash talkers as well as Gabe Davis said, Gabe 777 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: Davis never stops trash talking. Trash talker Steve Tasker, who 778 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: was the best a part of the years that you 779 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: were a part of the bills. 780 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 3: We I don't know if we. 781 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 2: Had do you remember do you remember any any incredible 782 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: trash talkers that you had, really. 783 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: Deeric Moles was really good even as a young guy. 784 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 3: He was pretty good because he was really smart and 785 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: he had some grits. So yeah, probably Eric Moles was 786 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: really good. Thurman was good because he was He always 787 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: had this huge chip on his shoulder too, so you know, 788 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 3: you get you get guys that have a feisty competitive 789 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 3: nature about him and they just can't be quiet. You know, 790 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: they got to talk about it. So Thuram was like 791 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: that and Eric Moles was like that. The offensive guys defense, 792 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's every corner you ever. 793 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: Talked to everybody on part of the job description. 794 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 3: So Mark Kels was probably the least talkative guy out 795 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: there in that respect. But yeah, every NFL cornerback and 796 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 3: most receivers. 797 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: Steph has some good one liners. I will I will 798 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: say that he's he's creative with how he he uses 799 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: his words. Before we go to break, let's go quick 800 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: around the NFL is presented by Kaleida Health, and we 801 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: covered the deals with Dalvin Cook and Zeke Elliott already. 802 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: But some other running back news here out of the 803 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 2: AFC East So Jets running back Breist Hall he had 804 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: that ACL injury. He's coming off the pup list. He 805 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: was limited at today's practice, and Robert Salad, the head 806 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: coach of the Jets, that they expect him to be 807 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 2: ready for Week one. So the Bills don't have to 808 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: just prepare for Dalvin Cook, they'll also have to prepare 809 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 2: for bris Hall. I think that's big for the Jets 810 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: to be able to get him back at this time 811 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, you know, a month before the 812 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 2: Bills are going to face the Jets in Week one. 813 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 2: Some other news out of Jets practice, maybe not crazy 814 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: news right now. There was a report out of practice 815 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 2: today that Aaron Rodgers was kind of limping around on 816 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 2: the field. We remember that he injured that. I think 817 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: it was the right calf during OTAs he was clutching 818 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: his left calf during practice. He never came off the field. 819 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 2: He stayed in for the next play. So probably, at 820 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: least for the Jets side of things, no news is 821 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 2: good news for them. So we'll kind of monitor that 822 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: and see if anything comes out of that. Other AFC 823 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 2: East news, Patriots tied in. Mike Sicki suffered a mild 824 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: dislocated shoulder during myy's practice. The hope is that he's 825 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: back for Week one. Finally, the Cowboys and Zach Martin 826 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 2: have agreed to reworking a deal he returns to the team. 827 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: Other news and notes for the Colts, You know, we 828 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: got to see a little bit of Anthony richardson on Saturday. 829 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: He was seven of twelve for sixty seven yards one interception. 830 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: You could see that athleticism on display. I want to 831 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: say when we saw him on Saturday, he was According 832 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: to Shane Steiken, he is the starter for the team 833 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: this season. 834 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: I was impressed with him, and Buffalo fans probably have 835 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 3: a skewed view of maybe what the reality is for 836 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: everybody because we saw Josh Allen go from Anthony Richardson 837 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 3: to Josh Allen. And when Josh came in, he was 838 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: he was the most controversial political subject in football. I 839 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 3: mean you either loved him or hated it. I mean 840 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: he was that polarizing. And now, of course everything's changed. 841 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 3: He's an elite quarterback and he's in the conversation for 842 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 3: MVP every year. Anthony Richardson reminds me of where Josh was. 843 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 3: Even more so. He's strong armed, great athlete, finished a 844 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: nice run Josh made. Josh was like that when he 845 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: was young, and that's why I'm kind of like, Wow, 846 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: I'd like to hear what Indianapolis Colt fans think about 847 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, because to me, it seems like he's the 848 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 3: upside's unbelievable and he's got so far to go. He's 849 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 3: going to improve vastly, really quickly, because he's starting from 850 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: so close to no experience, just thirteen college games. That's 851 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: pretty amazing. 852 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Other news, Jonathan Taylor is back with the Colts, 853 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: but he still wants to be traded and remains on 854 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: the pew P list. Chiefs wide receiver Justin Ross left 855 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: today's practice on a cart. I think it was a 856 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 2: leg injury on that, but I'm also already seeing reports 857 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: that it's not as bad as people thought it to be. 858 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: And then some terrible news. Raven's running back, former Ravens 859 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: and Seahawks running backs Eric Alex Collins died as a 860 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: result of a motorcycle crash. He was twenty eight years old. 861 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: You hate to see that somebody who played in the 862 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: NFL for a few years, especially at a result of 863 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: a motorcycle crash. So terrible news out of out of 864 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 2: that area where people have cheered for the Seahawks and 865 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 2: the Ravens. Somebody that a lot of fans probably love. 866 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 2: When we return, we are going to dip into the 867 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: tweet sheet, talk about what do you guys think about 868 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 2: this Dalvin Cook and Zeke Elliott deal? Are you in 869 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: I Do you think it's gonna be harder for the Bills? 870 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 6: Is it no big deal? 871 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: We want to hear your thoughts next on One Bill's Live, 872 00:44:49,120 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: or presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, 873 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: we're back here on One Bill's Live. We're discussing what 874 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: we think about the Dalvin Cook and Zeke Elliott additions 875 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: to the AFC East does it worry you or you like, 876 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 2: no big deal? What about the Patriots? What about the Jets? 877 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 2: Is it different for depending on what team you're talking about. Well, 878 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: we've got Kevin from Hamburg. He's been hanging on the line, 879 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 2: so Kevin will go right over to you. What do 880 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 2: you think about the additions to the Jets and the Patriots? 881 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: Are you worried at all? 882 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm more worried about the Jets Dalvin Cook than I 883 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: am the Patriots. Zeke Elliott seems to be on the 884 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: decline a little bit compared to if you had picked 885 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: him up in twenty nineteen. Dalvin Cook worried me much more, 886 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: just because while you saw the Minnesota nightmare, how that 887 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: big touchdown run one of the things that took the 888 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: air right out of our stadium. Well, Matt and the 889 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: fumbles and interceptions and stuff like that. So I'm much 890 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: more worried about Dalvin. And with Breach Hall coming back, 891 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be kind of like, I don't know how 892 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: much more. I'm not as much worried about Zeke as 893 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: I am Dalvin after the Minnesota nightmare. 894 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 7: So. 895 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Zeke has kind of a I 896 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 3: think he's feeling most people feel like Zeke was on 897 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: the decline even in Dallas, because Tony Pollard took over 898 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 3: his spot. Anyway in Dallas, he couldn't hang in there 899 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 3: with Dallas. And and I've thought most people think the 900 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 3: Dallas has got a really good roster always always has 901 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 3: some talent. And to not be able to run behind 902 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: the offensive line of Dallas Cowboys, you something's wrong. Tony 903 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: Pollard could do it. So Zeke, I don't know what 904 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 3: he's got to give. It'll be interesting. See, I'm kind 905 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 3: of with Kevin from Hamburg. I'm Dalvin. Can you plug 906 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 3: him into where Breece Hall's vacancy was, even though Breece 907 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 3: Hall now is off the pup list, they got two 908 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 3: really good backs. You gotta feel like the Bills feel 909 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: like they've got a strong stable of backs. You only 910 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 3: most teams only play one of them at a time. 911 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: Now you can put both of them out there. Somebody's 912 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 3: got to sit down. So okay, great, and I told 913 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 3: you this. Good players make you better. But you gotta 914 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 3: find a way to get him on the field too. 915 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: You gotta make room for Yeah, I think Dalvin Cook 916 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 2: does have a little bit more left in the Tank 917 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 2: compared to Zeke Elliott. 918 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 6: But we will see. 919 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: Zeke Gelly might have a bigger opportunity there With the Patriots. 920 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 2: I know they have Rmandrie Stevenson, but Damien Harris is 921 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 2: no longer a part of that roster as he's now. 922 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 6: A Buffalo Bill. 923 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 2: You've got a crowded room there. Over at the Jets. 924 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook is a very talented running back, but so 925 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: is Breece Hall. How do they use those two? I 926 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 2: think that's a big question mark, as well as all 927 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: the other options that they have on that offense. It's 928 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: gonna become a very crowded offense to be a part of. 929 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: With the wide receivers that they brought in and now 930 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 2: with Dalvin Cook. I guess it's a good problem to 931 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 2: have if you're the Jets. But how does it all work, 932 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: how does it come together? And does it really make 933 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: a difference. We will see. But coming up next, we're 934 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: gonna have Eric Wood on the show, former Center and 935 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 2: the Bill's Radio color analysts. He's joining us joining us 936 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: next on One Bill's Live, So stay with us here. 937 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: We're presented by Coaleida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. 938 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 3: It's one Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health. 939 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of one Bill's Live. Mattie 940 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: Glab alongside Steve Tasker today. Chris Brown will be back tomorrow. 941 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: The guys had their second practice back in Orchard Park today. 942 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 2: As they turn the page, kind of halfway through training camp, 943 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 2: I would say even more than halfway through training camp, 944 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: as we move on to closed ish practices. Now the 945 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: media can still watch all of practice, but fans are 946 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 2: no longer in attendance morning practices for the rest of 947 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 2: the week. They're going about nine thirty to eleven thirty 948 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 2: every day, and each with each week, we'll get closer 949 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 2: and closer to an in season schedule. At some point 950 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 2: they'll shift gears to having afternoon practices mid afternoon, not 951 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: really late. It's more like lunchtime practices, which is what 952 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 2: the guys do while we're in season. So they're gonna start, 953 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: I would say, turning the page even more to being 954 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: like an in season team with roster cuts coming up 955 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: on August twenty ninth. But for our number two of 956 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 2: the show, we've got a friend of the show, Eric 957 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 2: Wood is joining us. He's the Bills radio color analyst, 958 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 2: and a former Bills center, and Eric, we want to 959 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 2: start off from the preseason game with you. We haven't 960 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: had a chance at least on this show to break 961 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 2: down what you saw from that preseason show show, I 962 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 2: mean game. It was a show for the people watching though. 963 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 2: So what did you think of the preseason game against 964 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 2: the colt What stood out to you? I know you 965 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 2: were calling the game with Chris brown so it was 966 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: fun to hear you guys back in action mid season form. 967 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 2: I would say. 968 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 10: There was a few blunders on my end. I felt 969 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 10: like I might have been in a little bit of 970 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 10: preseason mode as well. But it was a lot of 971 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 10: fun being back with Brownie in the booth. South Crushes 972 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 10: always from the field, and John Murphy was in the 973 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 10: broadcast booth with us in attendance, so it was great 974 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 10: to have John back there as well. It was fun 975 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 10: to get back in the swing of things and see 976 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 10: the start of the twenty twenty three season, and the 977 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 10: Bills came out and looked sharp, you know, offensively, they 978 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 10: came out, got the touchdown early, very short field, but 979 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 10: Cook gets four touches early, gets the touchdown, and I 980 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 10: thought that first unit mainly running the football with Kyle 981 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 10: Allen under center, they looked sharp. Bill start off in 982 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 10: twelve personnel. It was last year, I believe we started 983 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 10: the season in five wides, and it just seems like 984 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 10: this year it's gonna be a different tune with Dolon 985 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 10: Kincate and Tuson Knox being out there and seeing more 986 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 10: twelve personnel this year. Kyle Allen, Josh Edit and his 987 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 10: media availability today, you know, he's he's continuing to make 988 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 10: progress in learning this offense and there's a lot of 989 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 10: different nuances that he's still learning. So as the preseason 990 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 10: goes on, I think we should see progression from him. 991 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 10: Matt Barkley has been in the system for a while 992 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 10: and and that showed fourteen for fifteen in the game. 993 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 10: Barkley looked incredible out there, and that's a good sign 994 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 10: for some of these good young receivers and then also 995 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 10: providing some protection in front of him with some of 996 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 10: the younger offensive linemen out there. Defensively, you know, the 997 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 10: focus was on you know, that middle linebacker spot and there, 998 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 10: and then the cornerback competition and Jackson gets an early interception. 999 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 3: In the game. 1000 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 10: Elam and Ben for both with a penalty of piece. 1001 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 10: But you know that's that's still an open competition, and 1002 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 10: you know Bill's got a luxury having four great cornerbacks, 1003 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 10: four good cornerbacks on this roster, Troy White setting Stone 1004 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 10: over there. But that three way competition at corner is 1005 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 10: gonna be a good one. It's gonna be something we 1006 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 10: got to monitor up into the regular season. It wouldn't 1007 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 10: surprise me to see them platooning guys to win the 1008 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 10: every two series rotation like we've seen in the past 1009 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 10: from this Bill's defense at that cornerback two spot. 1010 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 3: What did you think think about the offensive line's performance 1011 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 3: in the rotation. I know there's a ton of guys 1012 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 3: that played. What do you think about Osiris Torrance and 1013 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 3: the competition at right guard? 1014 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 10: You know, I thought Osiris looked smooth and so they 1015 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 10: wanted to play him. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's 1016 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 10: number one ahead of Ryan Bates right now. It's still 1017 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 10: a competition, but they've seen Ryan Bates play against NFL 1018 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 10: starters on Sunday before, so they wanted to get Osiris 1019 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 10: some action against the guys playing for the Colts. And 1020 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 10: DeForest Buckner, the really talented All Pro defensive tackle. He 1021 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 10: didn't play for the Colts in the game, but he 1022 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 10: got to play against some experienced NFL guys and I 1023 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 10: think maybe the best thing was, you know, we didn't 1024 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 10: talk about him on air, We didn't notice him, and 1025 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 10: a lot of times with an offensive line, when you're 1026 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 10: evaluating offensive line, when you don't notice him, that's a 1027 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 10: good sign. So I thought he looked smooth in his 1028 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 10: first action out there, and that's going to be another 1029 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 10: competition we have to monitor and Ryan Bates having the 1030 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 10: flexibility that he does, being able to play every spot 1031 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 10: along the offensive line, that makes him just so valuable 1032 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 10: in that sixth man role that you know, as this 1033 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 10: plays out, I think internally the Bills are probably rooting 1034 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 10: for Osiris to kind of take that step. And yes, 1035 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 10: he's a second round pick, and you want your second 1036 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 10: round picks to be playing as early as possible, but 1037 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 10: you know, Bates is just so valuable as a swing 1038 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 10: guy being able to back those guys up. And I 1039 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 10: thought it was a strong showing from Osiris Torrents in 1040 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 10: a number of guys on the offensive line. 1041 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got an a They do have a guy 1042 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 3: like Bates who can play all five spots. Both tackles 1043 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 3: both guards, and he obviously played some center this last week. 1044 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,720 Speaker 3: They're also and one of the things that Brownie always 1045 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 3: chimes in about is how they player development department of 1046 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 3: the Bills really gets these guys to play. They're trying 1047 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 3: to duplicate Ryan bates versatility with guys like Alec Anderson, 1048 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 3: with got you know, all these other offensive linemen they've 1049 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 3: got down the down the pipe, Greg Manz. David Edwards 1050 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 3: of course is a wiley veteran who could be a 1051 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 3: swing guard of but that is so huge having a 1052 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 3: guy like that and you don't And I guess the 1053 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 3: thing is, even if he's a better right guard than 1054 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 3: Osiris Torrance is at the moment, you know Torrance's upside 1055 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 3: is going to be there and baits. You don't want 1056 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 3: to unplug him from right guard or get him into 1057 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 3: right guard where he can't play him you know, it 1058 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: hampers his ability to stay sharp at the other positions. 1059 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 3: It's Almos He's almost more valuable as the next guy 1060 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: in right. 1061 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree with that, because you're going to have 1062 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 10: injuries throughout a season and having a guy that has 1063 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 10: NFL starting experience, a guy who's been in this offense, 1064 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 10: and a guy that has experienced at a number of positions, 1065 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 10: he just becomes so valuable in that backup role. And 1066 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 10: and so yeah, that's that's a great point what you made, Steve. 1067 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,439 Speaker 10: The only thing that scares you a little bit about 1068 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 10: playing a rookie at that right guard spot is you 1069 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 10: start off the season at New York on the road 1070 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 10: on Monday Night football against a very talented Jets defensive line. 1071 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 10: So it's one of those situations where, yes, you're looking 1072 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 10: at the upside of the potential in us you want 1073 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 10: him to be the starter so that you could get 1074 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 10: you know, Ryan Bates in that six man role, but 1075 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 10: not at the expense of getting your quarterback blown up. 1076 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 2: In Week one, right, I want to ask you about 1077 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 2: the running backs. We saw a little bit of James 1078 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: Cook against the Colts. He was He had four carries 1079 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 2: for twenty yards, so averaged five yards per attempt, which 1080 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 2: is a great stat to have. And we saw Latavius 1081 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 2: Murray catch a couple of passes. He had a big 1082 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: gain for I think over fifteen yards for a first 1083 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 2: down there in a needed type of situation. I think 1084 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 2: he showed up. What did you see out of Latavius 1085 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 2: and James. We didn't see Damien Harris because he is 1086 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 2: injured right now. But this running back room looks a 1087 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 2: little bit different because Nahim Hines will not be a 1088 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 2: part of the team this year with his injury. Hopefully 1089 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,280 Speaker 2: Damien Harris comes back within the next couple of practices. 1090 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: Sean mcdermertt said, he's trending in the right direction. But 1091 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: where do you see Latavius a part of this lineup? 1092 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: And then James Cook in the upside that he does 1093 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 2: have in year number two with this team. 1094 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been really impressed with how much spark, just 1095 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 10: the suddenness and the quickness and the speed that Latavius 1096 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 10: Murray at thirty three years old, and the size that 1097 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 10: he has that he still has in the tank. And 1098 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 10: this is a guy that you know has taken care 1099 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 10: of himself throughout his career, true pro's pro, and he 1100 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 10: gives them a different dimension. Last year with Singletary and 1101 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 10: Cook and even Hines, just all those guys are kind 1102 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 10: of a speed a quicker game, smaller running backs. 1103 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 3: With Harris and Murray, you kind. 1104 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 10: Of get that duo where you get a little bit 1105 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 10: different games from those guys. 1106 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 3: You get more power there. 1107 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 10: And you can just do different things to dictate how 1108 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 10: the defense is going to play you. So I'm excited 1109 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 10: about that. James Cook has looked great all through training camp. 1110 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 10: He looked sharpened in the action that we got to 1111 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 10: see him in and look, we know he can make 1112 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 10: plays with the ball in his hands. The issue last 1113 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 10: year at times was past protection. Okay, if you have 1114 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 10: him in there on third down, if they send a blitz, 1115 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 10: you don't necessary you didn't necessarily have the confidence in 1116 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 10: him last year to get a job get the job 1117 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 10: done in pass protection consistently well. Sean McDermott told us 1118 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 10: in the production meeting Friday, when when Steve was in 1119 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 10: there as well, he has been so impressed with how 1120 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 10: James Cook has approached pass protection throughout training camp, his 1121 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 10: mentality with it to where he's a true three down 1122 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 10: back in this league, and he's a guy that I'm 1123 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 10: really excited for this season. 1124 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 3: One of the other things about this coming into this 1125 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 3: first game, and I said in the open of our 1126 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 3: broadcast on the TV side, I'm not really worried about 1127 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott and the staff making the adjustment to him 1128 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 3: as defensive coordinated. I think they're gonna have their their 1129 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 3: t's crossing, their eyes dotted. I think the what I'm 1130 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 3: looking for is what it's going to be, how it's 1131 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 3: going to be different with him calling, and not the 1132 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 3: fact that he can't get it done. But what's going 1133 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 3: to look different about this defense? What are the early 1134 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 3: signs for you that may be a little different. 1135 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 10: Well, Sean Cape kept the game plan pretty vanilla for 1136 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 10: this one one. He wants the guys to be able 1137 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 10: to play fast and not think too much so you 1138 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 10: can truly evaluate those guys that are out there playing 1139 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 10: in the game last week against the Colts. But we 1140 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 10: did see some edge pressure, which is kind of standard. 1141 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 10: We've seen that in the past from Sean mcturmot and 1142 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 10: Leslie Frasier's defense. I don't think we're gonna see all 1143 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 10: the different nuances until Week one where they're unveiling some 1144 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 10: stuff for Aaron Rodgers and do them no good to 1145 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 10: give away any company secrets here throughout the preseason. But 1146 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 10: I think you're gonna see a little bit more aggressiveness, 1147 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 10: maybe some different blitz packages. I remember going against Sean's 1148 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 10: defenses down in Carolina, there was a lot of those 1149 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 10: double A gap looks on third downs with both linebackers 1150 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 10: lined up in the A gaps and the four defensive 1151 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 10: linemen around them, which is it puts a lot of 1152 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 10: pressure on the offensive line when you have six guys 1153 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 10: up in the line of scrimmage like that. I think 1154 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 10: we'll see some of that. I think you'll see a 1155 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 10: little bit more I don't want to say press coverage, 1156 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 10: but more up in your face action on cornerback on 1157 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 10: the outside for a couple of reasons. One, you get 1158 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 10: Trey White fully back and healthy, and then also just 1159 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 10: looking at what affected them especially in the playoffs last year, 1160 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 10: was just some two free access throws on the outside. 1161 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 10: So and then the personnel of this defense with them 1162 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 10: having essentially ten defensive linemen that they can roll in 1163 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 10: and out of there. Taylor Rap having starting experience as 1164 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 10: a third safety, do you bring him in a little 1165 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 10: bit more? You know, you got Taron Johnson who's played 1166 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 10: great throughout his career. Is there a situations where maybe 1167 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 10: Rap and tarn are on there and it's a it's 1168 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 10: more of a dime defense with six dbs, but you 1169 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 10: have size and physicality in Rap and Taron Johnson It's 1170 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 10: going to be interesting to see how all that shakes out. 1171 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 2: Eric, You're talking about all these possibilities that this team 1172 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 2: has on defense, and you think about all the possibilities 1173 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: on offense as well. Do you think it's being overlooked? 1174 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: How how deep this team is this season? Some of 1175 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 2: the offseason moves that Brandon bed made, maybe toward the 1176 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 2: end of free agency and when it wasn't such big news. 1177 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: You know, the Leonard Floyd signing comes to mind, and 1178 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: I think moves like that really show what type of 1179 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 2: team this is. Do you think it's being overlooked a 1180 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 2: little bit? The depth that this team is going to 1181 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 2: have going into Week one? 1182 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's fair to say that it's been overlooked. 1183 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 10: And you know, this is an organization that has had 1184 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 10: incredible stability with Sean McDermott in his seventh year, Brandon 1185 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 10: been there for six and a half years of those, 1186 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 10: they're completely aligned. They're drafting towards the same schemes year 1187 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 10: after year and through the draft, through free agency, and 1188 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 10: even not having any big ticket free agents like a 1189 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 10: von Miller last year, they've been able to have some 1190 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 10: really good signings like McGovern and Leonard Floyd and Taylor 1191 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 10: rap where they've just continued to add depth throughout this team. 1192 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 10: And I said it on the broadcast on Saturday, the 1193 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 10: Bills are tough in the preseason because you know their backups. 1194 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 10: I'm not saying all their backups could be starting elsewhere 1195 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 10: all around the league, but man, they have a lot 1196 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 10: of guys with experience in this scheme and a lot 1197 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 10: of guys with playing experience on Sundays to where you 1198 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 10: know in the preseason you go out and you got 1199 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 10: a guy like Matt Barkley as your third quarterback and 1200 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 10: he can really work the ball around the field very 1201 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 10: comfortable in this offense. You see it on the defensive 1202 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 10: side of the ball as well, where you have guys 1203 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 10: like Aasham and Epanessa who have played a lot of 1204 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 10: meaningful minutes for this Bill's defense. Well, they're playing in 1205 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 10: the second half in these preseason games and really putting 1206 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 10: a step forward out there. 1207 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 3: What do you think is the next step here towards 1208 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 3: I know they got a long wait a couple of 1209 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 3: weeks ago before they ever think about releasing anybody. You 1210 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 3: got a couple you got the Steelers coming up on Saturday. 1211 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 3: The Bears after that the next week, they don't make 1212 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 3: any cuts until then. What would you expect to see? 1213 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 3: Would this be the game? And I'm kind of thinking 1214 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 3: it might be this game, might see a couple of 1215 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: series from Josh on the road in Pittsburgh kind. 1216 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 2: Of things here. The second preseason game was when. 1217 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 3: We saw Yeah, I think it was last year. What 1218 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the rest of the preseason and 1219 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 3: how it's going to play out? 1220 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you would be fair to say that 1221 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 10: we could see Josh Allen this week for a couple 1222 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 10: of series, probably a bunch of handoffs like we saw 1223 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 10: at the early start of the Colts game. Get the 1224 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 10: ball out of his hands quickly, Maybe get some throws 1225 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 10: to guys he hasn't thrown to in a game before, 1226 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 10: a hardy Dalton, Kincaid, Isabella, you know, get those guys 1227 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 10: some action where you know, in a real uniform, in 1228 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 10: a in a real setting. You know he can he 1229 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 10: can operate throwing the ball to those guys, But you're 1230 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 10: gonna see the ball come out of his hands quickly 1231 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 10: if he's out there. They don't want Josh taking any 1232 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 10: shots out there in a preseason game, but you know, 1233 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 10: you you want to get him some action. Sean mcturbott 1234 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 10: said last week in his press conference that yeah, he 1235 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 10: wants to play Josh in the preseason a little bit, 1236 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 10: so i'd expect to see him out there this week. 1237 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 10: And then, you know, you have some position battles that 1238 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 10: we've talked about, middle linebacker, cornerback, right guard. But then 1239 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 10: you know the back end of the roster that wide receiver, 1240 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 10: six backup, safeties and corners, this defensive line. There's a 1241 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 10: lot of position battles out there and guys that could 1242 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 10: have a role in this team that that they're out 1243 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 10: there competing for their job each day. 1244 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 2: So the Bills open up in twelve personnel. You talk 1245 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: about it when during our first question and answer to you, 1246 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 2: we got to see don kin Cad out there. He 1247 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 2: didn't catch a pass in the preseason game, but I 1248 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 2: know you've been you've been seeing some of the highlights 1249 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 2: at practice and you got to see him on the 1250 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 2: field in a Bill's uniform. What do you think about 1251 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 2: this kid, don Kin Cad and the ability that don't 1252 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 2: gives this offense to truly be a twelve personnel team 1253 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 2: where defenses have to think about the who about who 1254 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 2: they're putting on the field. When daln kin Caid lines up, 1255 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 2: whether it's in the slot out why as a blogger, 1256 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 2: he can do a lot for this team. 1257 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, he puts a lot of pressure on a defense 1258 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 10: because of how athletic and big he is. And then 1259 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 10: he can also block. He's got the size to do it. 1260 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 10: And then you know he's a force in the passing game. 1261 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 10: And that's because he's got great hands, he's got good speed, 1262 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 10: and he's smart. He sits in zones well. And that's 1263 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 10: what has given Sean the confidence to say, look, where 1264 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 10: generally we bring rookies along pretty slow, he trusts Dalton 1265 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 10: to be out there on the field because of how 1266 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 10: quickly he picked up the offense, how how quickly he's 1267 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 10: adjusted to being able to sit in NFL coverages which 1268 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 10: get pretty complicated out there. He's he's got a great 1269 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 10: feel for that and he's a guy that I have 1270 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 10: big expectations for this season. And look, first game of 1271 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 10: the preseason they start him out right away, and good 1272 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 10: sign for their first two draft picks as well, that 1273 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 10: both those guys were starting out there on that Bill's 1274 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 10: offense in the in the Colts game. 1275 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen Kincaid and I've made the comparison. If 1276 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, he looks like he's done this before at 1277 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 3: the pro level. You know, he looks smooth, he looks 1278 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 3: unfazed by it. He looks like he's seen all of 1279 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 3: this before. Certainly, Josh and I know you you probably 1280 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 3: understand what I'm talking about when the receivers. When quarterbacks 1281 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 3: like a receiver, it's because they can read his body 1282 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 3: language really easy and they know where he wants the 1283 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 3: ball when he's ready for what he's going to do 1284 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 3: with very few reps. And that's where Dalton Kincaid seemed 1285 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 3: to be right when he came in. He just thinks 1286 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 3: like a quarterback. When he comes out of the break, 1287 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 3: the quarterback says, oh, I see what you're doing, boom 1288 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 3: and throws them the football that goes miles towards. That 1289 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 3: is chemistry and some guys have the ability to get 1290 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 3: that really quickly, and Kincaid seems to be all about that. 1291 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was from the start of camp. Josh was 1292 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 10: looking early and often at Kincaid, which when you have 1293 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 10: the talent that they have at receiver with Davis and Diggs, 1294 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 10: for him to be looking at Kincaid as often as 1295 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 10: he is. I know he's trying to get developed chemistry 1296 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,919 Speaker 10: there as well with it being Kikaid's first year. But yes, 1297 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 10: he's smart, he's athletic. He separates in man coverage, but 1298 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 10: against zone defenses, when you have a guy that when 1299 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 10: you have a tight end that's as big as he is, 1300 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 10: and when you have that big of a target, but 1301 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 10: he can also get open and find those open spots, 1302 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 10: that's very friendly for a quarterback. 1303 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, I think the spacing 1304 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 2: of it all for rookie to understand space within playing 1305 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 2: against zone and where to be in the right pockets 1306 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 2: to be into catch a ball, I think says a 1307 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 2: lot about a guy who's been on an NFL team 1308 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 2: for only a few months already. Can't wait to see 1309 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 2: what he's going to look like in Week one. All right, Eric, 1310 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 2: the Jets the Patriots. They've added a running back to 1311 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 2: their roster, Dalvin Cook heading to the Jets and Zeke 1312 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Elliott heading to the Patriots. What do you make of 1313 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 2: these moves? And I'll start first with the Patriots. Zeke 1314 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 2: heading to the New England Patriots. How do you think 1315 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: this helps their team. Do you think as a Bills 1316 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 2: fan they should be worried at all about something like this? 1317 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 2: What do you make of it? 1318 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know how much Elliot's still got left 1319 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 10: in the tank. Obviously, the Patriots did their homework before 1320 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 10: signing him, and they gave him a nice contract for 1321 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 10: a running back. Over six million can make up to 1322 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 10: six million bucks or a little over it. 1323 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 3: So they did their homework. 1324 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 10: They have confidence him and Ramond d Street Stevenson. You 1325 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,439 Speaker 10: know they'll be That's kind of like your were talking 1326 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 10: about earlier with Singletary and Cook last year. You know, 1327 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 10: they have a similar style. They're built on the power game, 1328 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 10: and so I don't know that either of these moves 1329 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 10: are extreme needle movers. When you look at Dalvin Cook, 1330 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,839 Speaker 10: extremely talented, but they had talent at running back already 1331 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 10: with Michael Carter and Breise Hall. You had Dalvin Cook there, 1332 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 10: and yes he's a talented player. He's likely going to 1333 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 10: be the starter there, but I don't know how much 1334 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 10: of an upgrade that is over the other two guys 1335 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 10: that they already got there. But this is a talented 1336 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 10: Jets team, and you know they're kind of the kicker 1337 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 10: to me with them is with this run game and 1338 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 10: even Rogers, you know, can the offensive line get it done? 1339 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 10: And if they can, they're going to be a really, 1340 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 10: really formidable team this year. 1341 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,519 Speaker 3: And if you and you talk about how you know 1342 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 3: these teams, stock pond I said that good players make 1343 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 3: you better. But if you're already full of good players, 1344 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 3: who's gonna sit down so that good player can play 1345 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 3: instead of this good player? And which one's better? I 1346 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 3: mean if? And I think that's a hard call to make. 1347 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 3: And we saw this way back. You probably this is 1348 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 3: before anybody's time except mine. When Daniel Snyder, who just 1349 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 3: sold the Washington Commanders, when he bought that team, he 1350 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 3: went in and paid a ton of money to guys 1351 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 3: like Bruce Smith and Dion Sanders and the really tremendously 1352 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 3: great players, it did not work well. This almost this 1353 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 3: Jet team almost smacks that. And certainly the Rogers thing 1354 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 3: is a difference maker. And the Jets have built a 1355 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 3: little bit more through the draft than that team that 1356 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking about back in the day. But man, oh man, 1357 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 3: it needs to go well, and it needs to go 1358 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 3: well early. I think, yeah, I think I think you're 1359 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 3: spot on it. 1360 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 10: Reminds me of the during my time the Philadelphia team 1361 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 10: that loaded up with Mike Vick, and you know, they 1362 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 10: they had all the big free agent signings and it 1363 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,719 Speaker 10: didn't quite work out. And I know, as Bill's fans 1364 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 10: and employees, we were hoping that it doesn't work out 1365 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 10: over there. But you know, they're they're a fun team 1366 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 10: to track right now. We'll see if it translates to 1367 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 10: the regular season. Hard Knocks did a pretty good job 1368 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 10: week one painting Rogers. Maybe not to be the person 1369 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 10: that we've seen in the media, and I've spent some 1370 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 10: time with Aaron good dude. You know he's gonna be 1371 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 10: well liked in the locker room when he goes there. 1372 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 10: But yeah, we'll see if they can, if they can 1373 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 10: piece it all together. But you know, they had such 1374 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 10: good young talent at that running back spot. Yes, adding 1375 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 10: Dalvin Cook is gonna help out a roster. It's one 1376 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 10: of the best running backs in the NFL. But is 1377 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 10: it at the expense of furthering your development of Breese 1378 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 10: Hall and Michael Carter. 1379 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. Great point, Eric, Thank you 1380 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 2: so much for being with us today. We appreciate your 1381 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 2: thoughts on the first preseason game for the Bills, and 1382 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 2: we know you'll be right back at it on Saturday, 1383 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 2: So will you tasker a game against the Steelers? Six 1384 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:56,799 Speaker 2: point thirty is kickoff. So appreciate you, Eric, Yeah. 1385 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 3: My pleasure always fun. Guys. Alrighty, all right? 1386 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 2: That was Eric Had, former Bills center and current Bills 1387 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 2: radio color analysts love what he adds to the conversation 1388 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 2: and his thoughts and how he's kind of seen this team. 1389 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 2: It's always great to hear a different perspective. I mean, 1390 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 2: we've been talking about this team for a few weeks now, 1391 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 2: at least in training camp, what they've looked like, and 1392 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 2: coming off of their first preseason game, we have a. 1393 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 3: Little more information to speak about now, and it's fun 1394 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 3: to because we're like everybody, even people who aren't invested 1395 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 3: in the team. You have fantasy teams, you know. Now 1396 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 3: you're trying to start to prognosticate the future and it's 1397 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 3: always hard, but every little bit of information, particularly against 1398 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 3: a real NFL team, gives you that much more confidence 1399 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 3: that you're going to be right. 1400 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 2: So next Gen Stats just tweeted a thread of week 1401 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 2: one preseason thoughts after Week one of the NFL preseason 1402 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: is in the book, so they did ten notable performances 1403 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 2: and trends from across the league. The Bills were a 1404 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 2: part of two of those trends. One was shout out 1405 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Matt Barklay for the job that he did at quarterback. 1406 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 2: The other I thought it was interesting because we were 1407 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 2: just talking about twelve personnel, the Bills using twelve personnel, 1408 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,719 Speaker 2: coming out in twelve personnel to start the game against 1409 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 2: the Colts, and this tweet says the Bills used twelve 1410 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 2: personnel on thirty five point six percent of their offensive plays, 1411 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 2: almost ten times as often as their league low three 1412 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 2: point six rate in twenty twenty two. This could signal 1413 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:32,760 Speaker 2: increased usage for starting tight end Dawson Knock Knocks and 1414 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 2: first round pick Dalton kin kaid. I surely think it's 1415 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 2: it's signaling that I don't know if they're going to 1416 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 2: be using it thirty five point six percent of the time, 1417 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 2: but it may. They're definitely going to be up from 1418 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 2: a league low of three point six perce. 1419 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 3: Maybe a smoke screen, you know, where they're giving all 1420 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 3: these teams something to think about. The Bills didn't the 1421 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 3: Bills like three plays out of one hundred, they were 1422 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 3: in twelve personnel ash and then this one was one 1423 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 3: out of three. Yeah, this last week. And of course, 1424 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 3: you know, you pick a guy like Kinkaid and if 1425 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,759 Speaker 3: he's good, you keep doing it. But yeah, I'm with you, Maddie. 1426 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing him doing it thirty 1427 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 3: a third at the time. It's a lot. But nevertheless, 1428 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 3: who knows. We know Dalton Kinkaid's a really good player. 1429 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 3: Dawson Knox is a very good player, and it makes 1430 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 3: a lot of sense to get him on the field. 1431 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 3: So we'll see. I'm we need more information anyway, I 1432 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 3: don't watch you to know the kind of the couple 1433 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 3: games before I start talking about. 1434 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 2: That, before you start talking about that. I thought it 1435 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 2: was an interesting stat though, to see that number next 1436 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 2: to twelve personnel, because when you have a guy like 1437 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid on your roster, you're gonna use it more. 1438 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 2: And I know Brandon Bean has talked about a lot 1439 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 2: he's kind of an eleven and a half personnel type 1440 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,599 Speaker 2: of player because he is gonna do more in terms 1441 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 2: of route running and pass catching than blocking. But to 1442 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 2: think about it that way, if he can truly add 1443 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 2: blocking to his arsenal. That's gonna make it even harder 1444 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 2: for defenses be really truly. 1445 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Twelve person out where you've got two big offensive tackle 1446 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 3: like tight ends that are pushing people around. Then what 1447 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,799 Speaker 3: you're trying to do is get the defense to declare 1448 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 3: their opinion a mismatch. They want to declare their opinion 1449 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 3: about what your offense can do against them, and they 1450 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 3: will match up with their strength on your strength, and 1451 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 3: they will tell you what their opinion is by the 1452 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 3: people they put out there and the coverages that they run, 1453 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 3: and by deducting what they're doing, they're thinking, Okay, they 1454 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 3: don't think we can run out of this formation. Let's 1455 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 3: let's hand it off a couple of times and lump 1456 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 3: them up a little bit. It'll be fun to see 1457 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 3: if the Bills can make teams pay for whatever decision 1458 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 3: they make about their right. 1459 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 2: So I want to see exactly Sean m exactly Ken 1460 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 2: Dorsey going, you just put that guy out there, We're 1461 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 2: going to eat you up. 1462 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 3: That's right to eat you for. That's exactly right, Maddy. 1463 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 3: You've got to make force the other team to decline 1464 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 3: their opinion about your offense and your personnel and then 1465 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 3: make them pay for that and then make them change 1466 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 3: their mind and then make them pay for that too. 1467 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 3: That's when you're really, really good. And that's what the Bills. 1468 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 3: That's where the Bills have been. That's where the Bills 1469 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 3: have been in the last few years. They can be 1470 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 3: a multitude of ways. 1471 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the last season, it 1472 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 2: was tough though, because you had injuries. You only had 1473 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 2: so many things to work with on offense, and I 1474 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 2: think they lost a little bit of that multiplicity that 1475 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 2: they wanted. Yeah, the flexibility that they started off the 1476 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 2: season with. 1477 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 3: The injuries are going to hit everybody. But last year 1478 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 3: they were the Bills were really They had so many 1479 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 3: guys that were either dragging something around, weren't as effective 1480 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 3: as they should have been, or were just flat out 1481 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 3: of the lineup, both offensively and defensively, and they had 1482 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,679 Speaker 3: they had to overcome, and they did for the most 1483 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 3: part all the way up until the divisional round of 1484 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 3: the playoffs and that you know, but they finally caught. 1485 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 2: Up to them and they're still thirteen and three. 1486 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see how they do it this year. 1487 01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 2: Pretty dangerous team. 1488 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 3: When this team one hundred percent healthy, watch out, they 1489 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 3: are one hundred percent difficult to beat. 1490 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree wholeheartedly. All right, we're gonna take 1491 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, we're gonna dip into 1492 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 2: the tweet sheet or should I call it the X sheet? 1493 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what are we calling things these days, guys, 1494 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 2: I have no idea? Or is it just that thing? 1495 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,600 Speaker 2: We're just gonna keep calling it twitter. I'm fine with 1496 01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 2: that too, So come back and join us here on 1497 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. In a few minutes, we're presented by 1498 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 2: Colida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We're back on 1499 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Maddie glib alongside of Steve Tasker or 1500 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 2: Twitter or X question? I don't know. We need to 1501 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 2: ask the crowd, the viewers, what they want us to 1502 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 2: call this now Twitter question? Topic today is Dalvin Cook, 1503 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,720 Speaker 2: Zeke Elliott heading to the AFC East. Do you think 1504 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,479 Speaker 2: it's Do you think it's gonna be tough on the 1505 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 2: teams that are gonna have to face these two twice 1506 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 2: a year? You can tweet at us or call us 1507 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 2: eighth three five point fifty. Speaking of callers, we've got 1508 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 2: JJ who's been hanging on the line. So, JJ, what 1509 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 2: do you have for us? 1510 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not really running back related, but I just 1511 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 4: wanted to give a call and see if you guys 1512 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 4: agree that the wide receiver room needs a little bit 1513 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 4: of a shake out here. 1514 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 2: What do you make of a shake up? What you 1515 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 2: would what kind of shake up do you mean? 1516 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 4: My thought is that right now it's the perfect time 1517 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 4: to sell high on a guy like Gabe Davis because 1518 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,640 Speaker 4: we have a lot of great, confident receivers behind them, 1519 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 4: like Khalil Shakur. You know, you tell high on Gabe Davis, 1520 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 4: get some good capital back and then rely on Jags 1521 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 4: and the guys that you have in house. 1522 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, who do you like in regards to Davis? 1523 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 3: Do you think Khalil Shakir could be the X guy 1524 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 3: where Davis is or should Khalil stay at slot? And 1525 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 3: who goes to Gabe Davis's spot if they go three wide? 1526 01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 4: I like Shakir at the X spot, and then I 1527 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 4: think you can find a slot receiver. I feel like 1528 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,640 Speaker 4: those one of the most replaceable positions in football right now. 1529 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 4: Wide receivers tend to get paid pretty quickly, so I 1530 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 4: know the bills are up against the salary caps here 1531 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 4: coming up soon, So I think it's a perfect time 1532 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 4: to unload Gabe. 1533 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, appreciate it. I think they have. I think 1534 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 3: I think they feel like because just like JJ feels 1535 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 3: like Gabe Davis has a high watermark right now, and 1536 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,760 Speaker 3: I think the Bills feel like he's still got a 1537 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 3: lot more in it. So I don't think they want 1538 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 3: to get rid of him. I think they want to 1539 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 3: have him give that to them. I don't think they're 1540 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 3: ready to give up on Gabe. And I think to 1541 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 3: think back to how Gabe's career began, I think the 1542 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,719 Speaker 3: Bills have a lot more faith in him than Bills 1543 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 3: fans do. After last season when he was injured, I 1544 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 3: think they tend to forget that. I think you're right. 1545 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 3: Gabe was not as good as we wanted him to 1546 01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 3: be last year. He was inconsistent, He drops the ball, 1547 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 3: drop the ball too much, all of that, and and 1548 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,760 Speaker 3: I get to the thought that a lot of people 1549 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 3: are like going, you know, I just you don't feel 1550 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,360 Speaker 3: like he's that unique that he can't replace him with 1551 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 3: guys in house, with even with Sherfield or Shorter or 1552 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 3: any of the other guys they've got in camp. They 1553 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 3: feel like I should it's gonna be easier to find 1554 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,560 Speaker 3: somebody like and with who's the other guy I'm thinking of, 1555 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 3: Keshawn Johnson, Terrell Shavers, those guys, they're big bodies, and 1556 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 3: you know, particularly guy like Terrell Shavers who had a 1557 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 3: really wildly up and down game this last Saturday, caught 1558 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,679 Speaker 3: a touchdown, made a block, but had had a drop, 1559 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 3: He drew a penalty down the field, had some really 1560 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 3: good stuff go for his way, and then had some 1561 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 3: stuff go bad. They don't feel Gabe Davis is that 1562 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 3: difficult to replace, and certainly maybe last year's Gabe Davis 1563 01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 3: might have been that way. But I think the club 1564 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 3: and and the coaches feel they like him. I think 1565 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 3: they like him a lot, have more faith in him 1566 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 3: than the average fan does, just because of the way 1567 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 3: the season. 1568 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: I want to see what he has in his tank 1569 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 2: this year. I want to see none in his tank. 1570 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,599 Speaker 2: That's not the right way to say it. I want 1571 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 2: to see what he has to show this year. I 1572 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 2: think he has a lot left in his tank. I 1573 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,639 Speaker 2: want to see what he can do on the field. 1574 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 2: I think Gabe Davis had I could had he had 1575 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 2: a great camp and he continues to have a great camp. 1576 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 2: Him and Stefan Diggs are up there for for and 1577 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,759 Speaker 2: Dolkinkaid are up there for best offensive weapons. In terms 1578 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 2: of the camps that these three have put together, I 1579 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 2: mean the plays that some of them have made. And 1580 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 2: specifically talking about Gabe Davis, he has been so consistent 1581 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 2: during camp and that's the thing that we wanted to 1582 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 2: see from him. He's showing it to us in camp, 1583 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 2: that consistency that he lacked last year because he said, 1584 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 2: I thought I took a step back with that ankle injury. 1585 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to give that up yet. I want 1586 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 2: to see what that means for Bills this year and 1587 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 2: how it works with Stephan Diggs and Don't Kinkaiden, how 1588 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 2: it's all put together. He had a catch today that 1589 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 2: is one of the best catches I've seen during camp, 1590 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Josh said it was on fourth down, so 1591 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,639 Speaker 2: it was the guy to have it play and Josh 1592 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,639 Speaker 2: Allen they were in the red zone and he threw 1593 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,680 Speaker 2: a pass to the corner of the end zone and 1594 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 2: Gabe Davis was there to go up for the grab. 1595 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,639 Speaker 2: It was a fifty to fifty ball against Tradevius White. 1596 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 2: Gabe went up, got some air and came up over Trey, 1597 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 2: so he had better placement of the ball, but to 1598 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 2: haul it in he basically had to catch the ball 1599 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,840 Speaker 2: on the back of Tredevious White. It was a great 1600 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 2: play by Gabe. Trey was right in on the play too, 1601 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 2: but it was an incredible grab. I don't know. We've 1602 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 2: seen I don't want to give up that. 1603 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen. Gabe played a high, high level. He 1604 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 3: fits the offense extremely well. And I get it too. 1605 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 3: Everybody wants, you know, everybody wants their team to have 1606 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 3: a j Jalen Waddle and a Tyreek Hill and a 1607 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 3: Steph Diggs and whoever Julio Jones in his prime. You 1608 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 3: want to And I get it, uh, I just I 1609 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 3: And I'm I'm all for upgrading every spot on the roster. 1610 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 3: I just don't know that they can do it with 1611 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,840 Speaker 3: upgrade Gabe Davis's spot with somebody who's here on the 1612 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 3: roster right now. I don't gave Davis is playing for 1613 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 3: a reason because he's better than most of those guys. 1614 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,559 Speaker 2: And I don't think a player like Khalil Shakir has 1615 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 2: done enough to separate himself from the rest of the pack. 1616 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 3: Khalil, to me, is not the kind of athlete that 1617 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 3: can play an X. He's a smaller He's. 1618 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 2: A smaller body type of guy, and sometimes you see 1619 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 2: that in the way that yeah in the way that 1620 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 2: he plays. I think Khalil has had some some sure 1621 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,519 Speaker 2: gray grabs through camp as well, but I don't think 1622 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 2: he's been as consistent as a Gabe Davis as year. 1623 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,600 Speaker 2: If you're comparing those two in the same position, I 1624 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 2: wouldn't like you said either, because he's a different body 1625 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 2: type and I think he sure can learn different positions, 1626 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's where they would see 1627 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 2: him fitting. We've seen a lot out of Trent Sherfield, 1628 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 2: been impressed by him, been impressed by Deontay Hardy, But 1629 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,679 Speaker 2: I think some of these younger guys, you're still waiting 1630 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 2: to see what is How are you gonna pan out? 1631 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 7: What is it? 1632 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 2: What is it gonna look like for you? For a 1633 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,559 Speaker 2: guy like Justin Shorter, for you know, you say Tyrrell Shavers, 1634 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,560 Speaker 2: he's he's had a great camp, but then in the 1635 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 2: preseason game, you know, you draw a penalty, like you said, 1636 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 2: you were involved in a touchdown pass. Keishawn Johnson has 1637 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 2: had some great catches Isaiah Coulter had some great catches too, 1638 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 2: but then he got injured. I think the bottom of 1639 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,400 Speaker 2: the wide receiver room. When you're talking about how many 1640 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 2: wide receivers are going to be a part of the 1641 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 2: active roster the fifty three, I think six. That's a 1642 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 2: hard room to make. And I think the guys that 1643 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 2: go to the practice squad, I don't even know if 1644 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 2: they're going to go to the practice squad because I 1645 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 2: think some of them are going to get plucked by 1646 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,839 Speaker 2: other teams. That's how well this group has been performing. 1647 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 2: They've all had their days where they've stood out. 1648 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you're talking about that X receiver opposite Steph, 1649 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,720 Speaker 3: who's a Z A guy like Steph, and and they're interchangeable, 1650 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 3: and certainly they are exceptions to what I'm about to say, 1651 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 3: because we've seen it. Steph is not an enormous, big 1652 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 3: time six four and twenty pound four to three guy. 1653 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 3: He is a route runner and a technician who can 1654 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,559 Speaker 3: get open just against any man coverage. The the guy 1655 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 3: opposite Steph, what you ideally, I think would want, would 1656 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 3: be a big six ' two six three six ' 1657 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 3: four guy that is justin she just a physical president 1658 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 3: president right, so you can you can put Steph with 1659 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 3: Justin with Dalton Kincaid, and a slot receiver trips to 1660 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 3: one side, and then have this this other guy who's 1661 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 3: a big physical body against the third or second or 1662 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,960 Speaker 3: third corner on their roster. Because they got three guys 1663 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 3: over here, they're gonna put all their coverage to the 1664 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 3: trip side, and you leave this big X receiver over 1665 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 3: here by himself on an island along with the corner. 1666 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 3: That's kind of the mentality. You have a guy who 1667 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 3: is a you've got to have a corner that's got 1668 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 3: some skills to play against him because he's too big 1669 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,599 Speaker 3: not to put a big body on right. So that's 1670 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 3: the kind of guy you kind of want opposite. A 1671 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 3: guy like Steph who like goes in motion, moves around, 1672 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 3: plays off the line of scrimmage, so you can't really 1673 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 3: get right up in his face and he just avoids you. 1674 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 3: A guy like Gabe step right up on the line 1675 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 3: of scrimmage and you know, slap the taste out of 1676 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 3: your mouth. You gotta physically bear up to play a 1677 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,720 Speaker 3: big dude like that Shorter this season, Yes, like like 1678 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 3: Shorter and Shavers. Those guys are way over six to 1679 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 3: two and they're big. So they give you that. But 1680 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 3: I'm not ready to I'm not ready to deal. I 1681 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,720 Speaker 3: guess neither one of us are ready to deal Gabe 1682 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 3: Davis on the chance that one of these two guys, 1683 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 3: now they've seen now, the coaches know him, they've got 1684 01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 3: more information than we do. Maybe they like these guys 1685 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 3: and they would do it. But man, oh man, Gabe 1686 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 3: Davis is. 1687 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,719 Speaker 2: A guy who is adds to your offense. 1688 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,280 Speaker 3: You can't do that. Some trust with his coaching staff 1689 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,639 Speaker 3: that's hard to earn. 1690 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 2: The staff, the players, they speak volumes of the type 1691 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 2: of guy in the locker room that he is in, 1692 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 2: the type of work that he puts in to perfect 1693 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:21,759 Speaker 2: his craft. 1694 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 3: Coaches and like guys like Brandon Bean, he's paid not 1695 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 3: to get it emotionally attached to guys. They're paid to 1696 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 3: be objective. Like you may love this guy, it's great, 1697 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 3: you're you know, you have him over the house for 1698 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving stuff. I'm sorry he's leaving because we've got a 1699 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 3: better player. You got to have people in your organization 1700 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 3: that are willing. 1701 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 8: To do that. 1702 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 2: And it's not like he's a second round pick that's 1703 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,519 Speaker 2: that's playing like a second round pick. He is a 1704 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 2: he was a fourth round pick. Yeah, no staying. 1705 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 3: I have a hard time. I have Yeah, I'm with you. 1706 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 3: I have a hard time getting to the point where 1707 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know what, we're going to move 1708 01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:00,519 Speaker 3: on from him. I'm just not there yet. I understand. 1709 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 3: You know, JJ is our caller. He's like, it's time 1710 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 3: to sell high on him. We could probably get. No, 1711 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 3: the time to sell high on him was last year 1712 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 3: after he caught four touchdowns in Kansas City. You could 1713 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 3: have gotten you might have gotten a one for the guy. Yeah, well, 1714 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 3: there you go. 1715 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we're gonna wrap up 1716 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 2: shop here, close up shop here. We will maybe answer 1717 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,880 Speaker 2: a couple of tweetsheet comments, read those off and know 1718 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,120 Speaker 2: we haven't really gotten to that yet, so we'll do 1719 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 2: that next Here on one, Bill's ive were presented by 1720 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:30,800 Speaker 2: Clyde Hell. 1721 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:43,959 Speaker 6: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, it's official. 1722 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,360 Speaker 2: The Bills have announced that offensive tackle Brandon Shell has 1723 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 2: officially been placed on the reserve slash retired list. So 1724 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 2: reports after practice we're correct about Brandon Shell retiring from 1725 01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,120 Speaker 2: the game. That question now for the offensive line depth, 1726 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 2: really at right tackle because he was kind of backing 1727 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,479 Speaker 2: up Spencer Brown, at least what we saw from the 1728 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 2: training camp portions that were open to media and fans 1729 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,599 Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher University. So we'll see what happens 1730 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 2: with the rotation out there. We know offensive line depth 1731 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 2: is really important, not just to the Bills but to 1732 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 2: any team in the NFL. 1733 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be guys. Well, Tommy Doyle will move up, 1734 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 3: kessen Berry will move up, Ryan van der Mark, Alec 1735 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,760 Speaker 3: Anderson has done both tackle and he's working at center now. 1736 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 3: All those guys, Richard Koyaj will also be out there 1737 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:37,720 Speaker 3: as well. Karaj was Karriash I guess he's out there 1738 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 3: working at tackle, left tackle in some spots as well. 1739 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,160 Speaker 3: So they've got guys on the roster that they're giving 1740 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,559 Speaker 3: a chance, and all those guys just kind of move 1741 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,760 Speaker 3: up one tick wherever Brandon Shell was in the pecking order. 1742 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, I wish Brandon Shell a lot 1743 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 3: of best wishes. It's hard to say goodbye to an 1744 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 3: NFL career, and today's no small thing for Brandon Shell. 1745 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 3: He came in, he was a bill for a cup 1746 01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,880 Speaker 3: of coffee in a training camp and decided to have 1747 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 3: it up the best wishes. I hope you're the rest 1748 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 3: of your life is is blessed and prosperous, and you're 1749 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 3: getting out at the right time because it's when you 1750 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 3: get to pick the time. It's the best time. Yep. 1751 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for us. For a 1752 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,400 Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live Tomorrow, Brownie is back 1753 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 2: in this seat and Robert Mays will be joining Chris 1754 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,600 Speaker 2: Brown and Steve Tasker. He's from the athletics, so conversations 1755 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 2: will continue about this team as we move closer to 1756 01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,080 Speaker 2: August twenty ninth. That's that roster cut down day. We 1757 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 2: hope you guys have a good rest of your afternoon 1758 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 2: and we'll see you tomorrow from one to three