1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: I said, I need to be the one hit pople 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: that all right. It wasn't a chip out of we're 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: loving the game of football anymore. It was a chip 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: out of patriot and anger. Even as I messed my 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: knee up, I was, I was, I'll be flying. Coach, 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: I start trying to jog on his highline. And then 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I walked home after the game and everything, I'm like, 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: what what what am I doing? Welcome into the lounge. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: We are nine days away from the regular season opener 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: against the Cleveland Browns. The countdown is on, Garrett. Oh, 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: it's definitely on. It's definitely on, and I'm ready. I 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: can't wait. I had a chance to go to the 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: stadium yesterday for their uh kind of a walkthrough practice, 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: and like, just seeing the guys at the stadium on 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: the field, it gets you fired up about football. And 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be different and all that, but 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing football in nine days and I 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. Nice. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: it's real, man. You know, it's been weird offseason because 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: you just didn't know even if we were going to 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: have football, you know, all all season you've just been 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, or at least I can speak for myself. 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: I've been just holding my breath, you know, with everything 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: that's been going on. Uh, and now that we're like 25 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: on the cusp of it and things are going really 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: well as far as the testing and all that stuff, 27 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: like I'm like, oh my gosh, it's really happening. It's 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: really happened, right. You. You almost like over the past 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: a few months, like you didn't want to get too excited, 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: you didn't want your heart exactly. You're like, you have 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: to wait. You it's kind of you know, make sure 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: this relationship is a real deal. You don't want to 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: get your heartbroken. And and now it feels like we're 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: ready to put a ring on it. Ready to put 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: a ring on it, Garrett. How many times did you 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: have your heartbroken? In love? My heart has never been broken, 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: rind is fully fully So you're a heartbreaker. How many 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: women's how many women's lives did you ruin? Garrett? We 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: don't need we don't need to get into this. We're 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna keep this conversation wrong. We're focused on football here anyway. 41 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: We're really excited today because we have one of my 42 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: favorite guys who I've I've had my eye on for 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: a little while now, and that's safety to Shawan Elliott, 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: who's gonna be a huge piece of this team. And 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: when you talk about the Ravens defense, you know he's 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the new guy now other than Clays Campbell and Derek 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: Wolf obviously we've known for a while are going to 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: be the new guys. But he's kind of stepping in now. 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Uh and and it's gonna be there's gonna be a 50 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: lot of eyes on him to see, all right, is 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: this Ravens secondary just as good with Deshaan Elliott in 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: there as it as it was last year with Eartle Thomason. 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: I got confidence in my guy, So we're gonna we're 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna talk to him about that. Yeah, definitely, he's got 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: confidence in himself as well. So we're gonna take a 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: quick break and we when we come back, we'll be 57 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: joined by safety DeShawn Elliott. 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We gotta start up there with you. 67 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: We gotta start with the Joker because you you fully 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: embraced the nickname. Can you just tell listeners how it 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: started and why you're the Joker? I started back in college. 70 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Um my first we had we had a previous coaching 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: staff and they got fired. And when I first met 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: my dB coach, I had got a fresh with tattoo 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: of Keith Wedger's Joker on my arm. And he's seen that. 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: In that coach he's kind of like a rowdy guy. 75 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: He brings a lot of energy to everything he does, 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: and so he's seen He was like, excuse on the 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: language he see. He was like, oh, that's badass. And 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I said your tattoo. He was like okay, 79 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: but I appreciate you. Coach. He was like all right 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: at that conversation, Like as I was leaving his office, 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I see you later, Joker. And 82 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: after that I kind of like, all right, my first 83 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: game year, I made a play against Maryland and I 84 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: did my Joker celebration, and I just kind of stuck 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: with me. And then I got on a big stage 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: against USC and I scored a touchdown. That's when it 87 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: really kind of like went off because Saturday Night Football, 88 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: all cameras on this like it was it was really fun. 89 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Every ever since then, I just kind of stuck with me. 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: And plus, I mean, I like the way he carries 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: himself and every movie in Coming book I've read in cartoon, 92 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: I've seen he carries stuff the way I wouldn't want 93 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: to carry myself as a as a cartoon. So I 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: just kind of with him kind of like the like 95 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs, I feel like it was a great villain, 96 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, like like when we go with the Pittsburgh 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: and he'd be like like kind of walking around and 98 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: like kind of taunting the Pittsburgh fans like this is 99 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: fantastic villain. Like are you like the next Ravens villain? 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: It's like they love to hate you, and I mean 101 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: if they want to hit you, know what I'm saying, 102 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: something you have someone hated, you have some people that 103 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: I love you, But I mean, hey, um, okay, it's 104 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: been the villaining. Sometimes it's okay to be the villain 105 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: for the opposite team, not for your team. Of course, 106 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: the team was okay toil. Is that why you got 107 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: the tattoo to begin with? Yeah, look, yeah I got 108 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: it because I used to watch a lot of comics 109 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: when I was joking and he was He's my favorite 110 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: villain because yeah Batman, yeah he's a good he's a 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: good superhero. But for me, Joker, he just kind of 112 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: did what he wanted to do. He did what he 113 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: did he wanted to do, and he didn't care what 114 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: people thought about him, and he did it his ways. 115 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: No matter what. He always had smile on his face, 116 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: no matter what happened, what was going on in life. 117 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: He always made sure he had he kept a positive 118 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: at too for his life. So I felt like that 119 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: kind of like her references me, and also like I 120 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: also take that and just say, with everything that's happened 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to me, like I've always had a positive ath look 122 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: on life, you know what I'm saying, and believing in God, 123 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: so you know, do that. So a couple more Joker 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: questions here, which Joker, which Joker version is your favorite? 125 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: You got the Heath, no question, no, no question. I 126 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: like Jack Nigilson also, but I think Heath the wetterer. 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: He just the way he portrayed the Joker and are 128 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: repeat to him, but the way he just kind of 129 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: really took on that full moniker of the Joker. I 130 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: feel like he brought it to life. And I truly 131 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: don't believe anyone else would ever do a better job 132 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: than him, no matter what they how much they try, 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they will. You impressed me on the 134 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson's reference because I was like, I assume that 135 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: if your nickname is a Joker, you know the Jack 136 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Nicholson piece. But I was like, that's the way before 137 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: your I'm young, but listen, look I do. I've watched 138 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: his movies. I do. I didn't watch a lot of 139 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: things that my favorite thing to do, and my favorite 140 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: hobby is to watch movies. And just like literally I 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: do nothing goes, I go home. I watched movies. I 142 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: really don't eat the house that much. So well, man, 143 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: we we're we're really fired up for your opportunity that's 144 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: coming up this year. I'm Tony and Garrett can attest 145 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: to this. I've been talking about you for a couple 146 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: of years now. I saw so I would just I'm 147 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: just saying that now for all the listeners out there. 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I've been on the Deshean Elliott bandwagon for a couple 149 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: of years, Okay, so much. I'm very rarely give make credit, 150 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: but i will say that he's telling the truth. He 151 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: has been. He hasn't on the bandwagon for the past 152 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: couple of years, and I appreciate, I appreciate the day 153 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: were unfair, and I appreciate you. It's a it's a blessing. 154 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, being able to finally, hopefully God say the 155 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: saying I can take, I can take still further in 156 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: my career. Um, I've had the battle to injuries, but 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: after that, I feel like at this point in my career, 158 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: I flight mentally and physically, I'll be fine. Like I'll 159 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: do great things in this league. Always in my book, 160 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna standing out book. As long as you 161 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: play for your teammates, I mean, the football guys always 162 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: answer as long as you do the right thing. So 163 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm continue doing the right things because you're 164 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: working my butt off and just hopefully from there we 165 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: can be great as a whole. And so when you 166 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: be great as a whole and work towards your in 167 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: gold and eventually, um, those individual goals to show up. 168 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: So you know, what are the emotions for you right now? 169 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, are you starting to get butterflies already thinking 170 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: about your first start against the Browns? Well, actually, yesterday 171 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: we were doing walkthroughs like at the stadium, and I 172 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: was like, life, you didn't feel really, I don't know 173 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: what I thought I had. I had at about an 174 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: out of body experience and I was like, okay, um, 175 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is about. But then I 176 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: go home and I was on my phone. I was 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: on the phone my dad and I was like, Pops, like, 178 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: my first career start is next week. He was like yeah. 179 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, Like that's that's crazy, that's exciting. 180 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it was. It was always mentally happened, 181 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: It's just I never knew when it what happened, and 182 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: in fact that this family happening. And I'd have to 183 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: make sure I can't get high, I can't get too 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: all myself to keep my head leveled and I f like, Shoot, 185 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm go out there and do what I always do, 186 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: run around. So I'm gonna run around and give max effort, 187 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: max effort coming results, So I think I'll be fine. 188 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: What does it mean to you? It sounds like like 189 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: there is a lot of kind of emotion that goes 190 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: into making that first career start and taking stepping into 191 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: a starting lineup on a raven's defense that has such 192 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: a great history, Like do you think about all those 193 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: things as you're preparing to make your first start? How 194 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: does all that play into it? Um? Not really, I 195 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: just feel like being here for three years now, I 196 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: feel like you learned the core values of this organization. 197 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: And if you just know and you learn, I mean 198 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times they bring in guys who could 199 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: potentially be a person who plays like a raven. That's 200 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of something we stick to them, and I feel like, 201 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: after over the time, once you realize how to play 202 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: like a raven, realize preparation is involved in that, and 203 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: so once you are mentally prepared and facebically prepared the 204 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: way you needs to be, then you shouldn't be too 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: nervous and um or think about oh can I do it? 206 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Or it's a possibly possibility to me doing it. You 207 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: should just understand it's you have a standard that you 208 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: have to play at being on this team Boston Raven 209 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Lewis played here and we played here. You just know, 210 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: like this is a defense where mental preparation is one 211 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: of the best, one of the best things that can happen. 212 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: If you don't you don't prepare men to it, then 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't be here. So I think I'll be fine. Yeah, 214 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: can you can you describe how I maybe pain maybe 215 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: painful is not too strong of a word, but how 216 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: how painful it's been to kind of wait your turn, 217 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: Like you've had the injuries, You've had to watch them, 218 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: the sidelines were hiding some really great players. But you 219 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: want to play like your confidence your teammates talk about it, 220 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: You talk about it like you're clearly a confident guy. 221 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: You want to play. How tough has it been to 222 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: wait your turn? Um? Up until this past offseason, it 223 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: was very tough for me because I was I fight mental. 224 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I was kind of a kid. I was. I mean, 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: I came out of score early. Um, I came in 226 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: at twenty one in a week years old, So I 227 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: was a kid, and I just feel like mentally, I 228 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: was like, I'm better than everybody here physically, but mentally 229 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: I know I'm not on the same level as them. 230 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: But I know I can still go out there and play. 231 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: But once I once I got to my theory is 232 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: that past off season, I realized, hey, look, it don't 233 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: matter what you have going on. The NFL is a business. 234 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: So as long as you do the things right at 235 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: all times and you be patient, your time will come. 236 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: Like everyone has an opportunity. Once you get the opportunity, 237 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: you got wrong with it, and so to you what 238 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: you do, what you do with the opportunity. If not, 239 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: then it would be the next guy. So yeah, me, 240 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: I feel like my my second injury, it really helped 241 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: me open my eyes even more then what I have 242 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: ever been like. It was it was a curse also 243 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: the blessing. It was a blessing disguise, and I'm happy 244 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: to say I'm happy to be wearing up now. I'm 245 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: curious how you know your mindset kind of flipped, you know, 246 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: when the team parted ways with Earl Thomas, because you 247 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: know you've been preparing to be a starter for the 248 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: past two years. You know, you've been doing everything you can, 249 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: but still when that moment happens, you know, it has 250 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: to flash through your head. Oh oh I'm next, I'm 251 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: next up, I'm next up. Like, how how did your 252 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: mindset kind of change a little bit or didn't. It 253 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: was kind of like it went from me being a 254 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: role player on this team, you know, I was special 255 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: teams deemon too, finally being like oh wait, bro, like, 256 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: oh eyes on you now, fam like you see to you, 257 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: but you gotta like, yeah, I thinks I know, I 258 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: make plays, but it's like now it's like you're being 259 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: depended on, like footy being depended on. And for me, 260 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: that was a big step because yeah, in college, I 261 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: was a leader of my defense, but now I fight 262 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: and strive to be the leader for our defense, and 263 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: I want to be leader for our day defense. I 264 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: want to I want everybody to know, Okay, the Sean's 265 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna I can depend on the Sean, and I can 266 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: trust the Sean, And honestly, that's the only thing I 267 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: care about is making sure my teammates can trust me 268 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: and can depend on me, and I deserve to play 269 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: for them, deserve to be in the spot that I 270 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: am not just because of the situation. But say this 271 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: is what you didn't happen, I still have They can 272 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: still be like, oh yeah, even if it didn't happen, 273 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I still believe he can get the job done. That's 274 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: already care about knowing it's for them for me to 275 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: know that. They add that they can depend on me. Right. 276 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: You reference your injuries and and you know a lot 277 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: of people always talk about that. You know, well, you know, 278 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: de Shaun's gotta stay on the field. I've always said, 279 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like this is bad luck. I 280 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: mean some injuries, like some players have nagging, recurring injuries 281 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: right where like I don't know, maybe they're not training 282 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: the right way or or something right, but like I 283 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: just feel like you have bad I mean a broken 284 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: forearm and then your first game, your first game and 285 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: like a defensive role last year, you tear your knee, 286 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: and I want to say it was definitely just like 287 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: freak injuries because I mean, I take care of my 288 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: body right away, I do all the right things, um 289 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: from something to sundown, but just things happen and I 290 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: look key, I feel like it was something that something 291 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: I could have prevent it. With both of those injuries. 292 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: I played kind of like I told, like I said, 293 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: maybe like a week and a half and go something 294 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: like that. I was like, sometimes I played kind of 295 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: crazy and sometimes I play when I was, well, I've 296 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: learned now you can't out here, you to be playing 297 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: all while. I got understand body control and I gotta 298 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: know when to fully turn that craziness on. And he 299 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: just playing went to like and dial back and our 300 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: rookie year. I was just actually on that when I 301 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: broke my arm that play, I played through more plays 302 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: on defense I broke. I didn't know my own was broken. 303 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I'm meant to tackle with it broken on 304 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I didn't even know. Yeah, I was. I was out 305 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: of it. I wanted that tackle hurt. And the thing 306 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: is it didn't hurt. It just I love football so much. 307 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: It's just like I'm want to play no matter what. 308 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: And even after I messed my knee up, I was 309 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll be fine, Coach. I start trying 310 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: to jog on the sideline, and then I walked home 311 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: after the game and everything, I'm like, what am I doing? 312 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I just I just I don't know. I just really 313 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: love the game football. Wait, wait, you walked home after 314 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, I can't tell people I stay there 315 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: but a little somewhere because then walking distance and walking 316 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: this is at the stadium and out of the game. Wow, 317 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy. And then on the knee did you find 318 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: out the next day? Basically yeah, I got in the 319 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: next day and that came back after his olds back 320 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, she's here too. Here we go. Wow, 321 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you brought up how the only thing 322 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that matters to you is basically having to trust the 323 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: support of your teammates. And so when the Ravens made 324 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: the decision to part ways with Earle and you stepped 325 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup, the resounding theme in talking with 326 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: your teammates was, well, we trust to Sean, Like, we 327 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: know that he can play. We know that this guy's 328 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: a baller, We've seen him in practice, we know that 329 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: he can be a really good player. What did it 330 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: mean to you to hear that from your teammates. Um, 331 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: it meant a lot. I felt good about it, but 332 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, um, and so what can you do 333 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: for me now? Ue? So, I mean, I just want 334 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: to be consistent. I want to get better every day 335 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: and try to be consistent for them. And if I 336 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: can be consistent, then long away does I mean communication 337 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: is a big thing for defense. I don't want to 338 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: continue to communicate and just continuously oh strives to be 339 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: great just for them. So I appreciate the love I 340 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: get from there, but I gotta be better. I gotta 341 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: do better to be more nice. All right, So I 342 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: want to back up a little bit, go back to 343 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: your early days. You're a Dallas kid, Dallas Texas, your 344 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan growing up. I would as soon, of course, 345 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: and Smith was my player of all time. He was 346 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: he was I played. I started playing football because of him. Uh, well, 347 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: because my dad. But like I started playing running back, 348 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: I always started off as a running back. I was 349 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: around for a long time until one time and like 350 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: I think my last year of pee wee football, I 351 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: was running the ball and I got hit so hard. 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: After that, After that, here I say that I don't 353 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: want to play running make anymore. I have to play defense. 354 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: You'd rather be on the You don't want to be 355 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: in the receiving end of this, Yes, I said, I 356 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: need to be the one hitting people that hard. That's 357 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: no joke. Even out there, they'll take your head off 358 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: your at least back then. You know, nowadays a little different, 359 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: but back then it was like boom in the ring 360 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Oklahoma drills at like six years old, and we're like, 361 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: come on, what are we doing? So then so then 362 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: you go to Texas. Then then you dunk on my turps, 363 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: which will just gloss over that part. And then and 364 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: then you decide you're you're coming out early as a junior, 365 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, and and which seems like, hey, that that 366 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: was definitely the right call. You're All American, right with 367 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: Mika Fitzpatrick. You look at Garrett, go back. I'm telling you, Garrett, 368 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: go google the All American team from that year. It's 369 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: an all star squad. I'm telling you. The other safety 370 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: was Minca Fitzpatrick. That's right. Who went like what the 371 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: top ten to top fifteen? Yeah. Man, I'm not gonna 372 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: look at the passing nothing. But I don't want to 373 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: say right now, I feel like, dang, like what who 374 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: said something about me that where I didn't you know 375 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not gonna say nothing than bro, Like, 376 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, God puts you in all position that you'd 377 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: to beat put into, but my role might have been 378 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: taken a little bit longer. But you know, I feel 379 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: like my accolades and things I've done in college couldn't 380 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: credit it there a little bit right right, Well, we'll 381 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: just we'll just say it for you. I mean your 382 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: junior year. Six interceptions, two touchdowns, three force fumbles, and 383 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: a formal recovery. And I still don't say, I know, 384 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: I know it's crazy. And then you go, you go 385 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: sixth round? How big a chip did that put on 386 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: your shoulder? And do you still feel that chip today? 387 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, I feel like, um, that 388 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: chip was not a good chip for me. M It 389 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: wasn't because it wasn't a chip out of loving the 390 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: game of football anymore. It was a chip out of 391 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: hatred and anger that I was cheating, cheated out of. 392 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like now I don't have that anymore. 393 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I feel like now I'm back to just loving the 394 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: game and I love the ball so much, like so 395 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: much without any dress here is I don't I don't 396 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: regret what happened or me coming out early at all. 397 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: Like I'm glad, I am who I am Tuesday? Um? Right, 398 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: I really am? How long did that anger linger for? Uh? 399 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: For two? You like my first two years in the 400 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: week I strived to prove people wrong. Now I'm not 401 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: here to prove anyone wrong. I'm here to just to 402 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: have fun, play for my people, and play for people 403 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: who love me. M hm. When you think back to 404 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: draft weekend, like, is that a miserable memory? Like some 405 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: guys like getting drafted is the is the greatest moment 406 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: of their life. And then other guys are like, I 407 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: hated draft weekend, Like that was terrible. I hated the 408 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: whole process, even like the combine process. I hated the 409 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: training process. I was stressed out every day and I 410 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: don't know why I was. I just I'm just the 411 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: person who, like I started for greatnesside sometimes I can 412 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: stress myself out. So I was just so stressed out 413 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: every day. And then the draft process came around and 414 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: I had a party on day two things I was 415 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: gonna go third, and then that doesn't happen. So I 416 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: have people at my house. My family ever went at 417 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: my house, and that it was kind of embarrassing. And 418 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: then the day three comes around. I'm waiting that morning 419 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: they did, thinking okay, well that's the case, and I'll 420 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: just go early day three. Then after a while, but 421 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: I honestly I was turned the draft off. I started 422 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: playing video games, and as i'll playing video games, I 423 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: get a call from Azzie. I mean it was a 424 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: blessing because I definitely cried when I was calling me, 425 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: because I mean, it's still a blessing in regards to 426 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: playing NFL, like I could, I could tell a bright 427 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: now just talking about it, just like havn't. I didn't 428 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: only think about playing football for NFL until college truly, 429 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: because I mean I didn't play football and four to 430 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: go to the until I played. Because I loved it. 431 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: I just loved playing football. I've loved everything about it, competing, 432 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: I just loved it. So finally able to get to 433 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: this point where I am now I want to hear 434 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: as the voice I knew it wasn't when they called 435 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: She's is a life changing moment and I'm going around 436 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: with it. Nice. Who who have you really leaned on, 437 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: like you know, when you were feeling angry and whatnot, 438 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Like what veterans you know on the team kind of 439 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: helped you get past that and helped groom you as 440 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: a young player in this league. I don't really I 441 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't tell him about it about my anger and my 442 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: um my anger for like having that chip on my 443 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: should I sided to the one that Um, I just 444 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: kind of played. I just kind of played with more 445 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: sense of Masters of Urgency was more out of oh 446 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: I need to play right now. I've been that that 447 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: was that was something that you have to get over. 448 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Like that's why I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, Like 449 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: when I said when I was immature, and so I 450 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: was very immature. And so then once I realized that 451 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: after my second injury, realized to listen, God, that's everything 452 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: for a reason. So you can't force anything. You can't 453 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: force a dang thing in life because when you're when 454 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: things happen, it will That's when the time what will 455 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: happen when God wants it to happen. And so, um 456 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: taking that in account. When I finally did get here though, 457 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: um first day here, Eric Wardle took money this way. 458 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: Tony Jepson hit me up on Instagram when I first 459 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: got drafted here, and they both kind of just looked 460 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: out for me. I mean, I've been out to San 461 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: Diego to see both of them, hung out with both 462 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: of them multiple times. Even when what it was gone 463 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: still was able to talk to him and see him, 464 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: and I really do appreciate those two guys like uh 465 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: t J was here last year and Techs like my 466 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: big bro, like like you know, the NFL rosso changes 467 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: every year, but just being able to know, like you've 468 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: got people that you can have and do relationships for 469 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: over the years. It's great because sometimes you go to 470 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: college or high school, you might never talk to those 471 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: guys ever again. But I feel like when you do 472 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: relationships in the NFL, like those are life form relationships. 473 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's really interesting listening to you to Sean 474 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: because here you talk about how you had the anger, 475 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: You kind of played a little bit reckless, you know, 476 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: younger in your first two years. It seems like had 477 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: you been thrust into a starting line up, you may 478 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: not have been set up to succeed your first two years. 479 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have. I think I would 480 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: have been pressing so much. I probably would have failed, 481 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: to be honest, just because like, yeah, I got a 482 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: talent about flat Mentally, I would have failed just because 483 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: I've been trying to force things to happen instead of 484 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: just learning and understanding what's going on. Interesting something I'm 485 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: excited to see what you can do this year. I 486 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: think you're the dark horse to lead the team in interceptions. 487 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I think, oh, you're gonna tell Marcus that to his face, scare. 488 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: That's why I don't think I'm in a dark horse. 489 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. I don't think I can. 490 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: When you when you went to the ball, man, crazy 491 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: things can happen. And hey, I run to the ball 492 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: every play. So we're gonna see what. We're gonna see 493 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: what happens to God bless we'll see. I like it. 494 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: I like that that. Hey, so that confidence, that confidence 495 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: is clearly there. Where does that confidence come from. I'm 496 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: just that's who I am. That's how I would raise 497 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: my passe raising it that way. Um, And I believe 498 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: myself because I know I put the work in like 499 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I would never be out worked. I refused to be 500 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: out working. If I feel like being out worked, and 501 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: work even harder. And anybody ever trains me understands that. 502 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, even in my book, if I feel like smart, 503 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: smarter than me, I'm gonna work my ass off to 504 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: be smarter than my language. But Chuck, Chuck the smartest 505 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: man in the room. But I'm not gonna lie to you. 506 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: I try my best to compete with him, trying to 507 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: be smarter. Yeah, he's my guy's when my really good friends, 508 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: like I do anything for my dog. But I'm trying 509 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: to try to be smarter than Chuck. So it is 510 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I'm a competitive I want to be great. 511 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: That's good. What kind of question is that, Garrett? You 512 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: have you ever watched The Joker? The Joker never thinks 513 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be foiled. Okay, all right, He's always got 514 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: the utmost confidence. I'm just saying that I I thought a 515 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: dark horse saying that you're gonna leave the team. I 516 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: thought that was like a compliment, but you didn't even 517 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: take it that way. It's wait, it's Chuck like Batman, Like, 518 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're a Joker, it's Chuck. I feel like it's 519 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of you know, he'd guy. That means they're enemies. 520 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know they shouldn't be enemies, but I'm 521 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: just I don't know who's truck. Then if you ask, 522 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I'll ask check. I'm okay, okay, all right, well, de Sean, 523 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: this has been a pleasure, man, Thank you so much. 524 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Great man. 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Great stuff from the Sean. 534 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Really appreciate him kind of open it up, um and 535 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: talking about where his head was at the past two 536 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: years and where it's a now. Um, you do definitely 537 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: just see a more mature person, you know, and U 538 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm telling you it's It could sound crazy, 539 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: And I know all all respects to the player that 540 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas was and he could be a future Hall 541 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: of Famer man, and I don't take anything away from him, 542 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: but I think that this defense could be just as 543 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: good with the Sean Elliott, if not potentially better. We'll 544 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: tell you what if he leads the team interceptions like 545 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: he thinks he's going to, then that probably means that 546 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: the defense in the second area is even better to 547 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: last year. And that is the thing that I I 548 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: think that DeShawn has some really good skills around the ball. 549 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: He's got a knows for the football, and I think 550 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that like, one of the 551 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: reasons I know that you've been high on him for 552 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: the past couple of years and a lot of people 553 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: who have watched practice during training camp in the offseason 554 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: happened is like he is constantly around the football. He 555 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: has a nose for the football. Uh, he seems to 556 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: have good ball skills and and that you know that 557 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: seems to make a difference. Um. And so I don't 558 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna agree with him that he's gonna 559 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: have more picks than Juice Man, but I do think 560 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: that he's gonna get some. Well, it depends the people 561 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: not even throw Juice Man's way. Well, when did you 562 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: throw it out, Marlin Humphrey all day. No, they're just 563 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna throw out the safeties all day. They're gonna they're 564 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna throw out the sean And that's the case. And 565 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: maybe he gets this yeah, sometimes it's an opportunity. Yeah. 566 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I thought I thought it was 567 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: just it was interesting to hear him just be so 568 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: open talking about being angry, talk about feeling like if 569 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: he had played the last two years he may not 570 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: necessarily have been ready, and that he needed to mature 571 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: in terms of his approach to football and play less crazy, 572 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, play with more stability out there on the field. 573 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I thought those were like pretty reflective, honest statements from him. Um, 574 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: And that to me shows like you don't want to 575 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: talk about a guy who's maturing. He clearly is exuding 576 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: that in the way that he talks um and the 577 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: way that he looks in his first two seasons. So um, 578 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about the sean and 579 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: the approach that he's bringing to this season. Yeah. I 580 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: think opponents are gonna are going to test this. These safeties. 581 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean you look at it. Look at cornerback. You 582 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: have three first round picks, Marlin Humphrey, Marcus Peters, Jimmy Smith. 583 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: Then you go to safety and your two starters are 584 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: six rounders. And I think there's a lot of respect 585 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: for Chuck obviously around the league, just because they've seen, 586 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: but the Shawn's the unknown and so it's pretty cool. 587 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty unique to have two six round picks 588 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: as you're starting safeties, and that that tandem of the 589 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: the Sean the Joker and Chuck tb D. On the nickname, 590 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Chucky. Can we can he just be 591 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: like Chucky like the doll? I mean, it's not like 592 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: a mark, it's not a dzy comics thing. But right 593 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: now you're just mixing movies. Now you just yeah, but 594 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: Chucky is still like a villain. Yeah, but let's be honest, 595 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: not great imagination on your part by just to make 596 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: his nickname his name. His name is Chuck and he 597 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: just added a y that his nick names Chuck. I'm 598 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: just saying it just fits with the villain theme. I 599 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: guess it also fits. But the fact that it's actually 600 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: his name. Yeah. You know. Something I really do like 601 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: about these two is I think that the Ravens do 602 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: all sorts of different stuff with their safeties, but I 603 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: do think that they are well equipped to be the 604 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: high low safeties if the Ravens choose to play that way, 605 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Like like like DeShawn is a rangy center fielder. He 606 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: can play that role really well. And then Chuck Lark 607 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: can come down and hit guys with the line of 608 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: scrimmage and be right there in the action and be 609 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: the green dot and all that. Like. I think that 610 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: they are a great tandem for those you know, in 611 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: terms of what they do well fitting together with each other. 612 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. You know what, right now, I'm 613 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: feeling bold some of the confidence from the Shawan is 614 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: a rubbed off on me. I'm going one of Okay, 615 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: DeShawn or Chuck one of the safeties. They're getting to 616 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: pick week one, They're picking off Baker. They're they're gonna do. 617 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there right now, all right, I 618 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: could I could see that and now that. Yeah, I 619 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: I could see that Baker through a lot of picks 620 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: last year. So if you if you're gonna say someone's 621 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: gonna get one, who's gonna be I think that they 622 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: there's merit to your idea too, that they're going to challenge. 623 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, teams are gonna challenge. The Browns have two 624 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: good tight ends to in the Joku and Austin Hooper, 625 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: so they could try to go work in the middle 626 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: of the field. I was getting one, alright, Alright, I 627 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: could I could totally see that. I can totally see 628 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: that who's who's gonna is Deshan gonna lead the team 629 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: and interceptions this year. We're gonna do our Wow, We're 630 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna do our full season predictions podcast next week. Um um, 631 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: so I actually reserved my real answer till them. I gotta, 632 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta tinker a little bit. I gotta 633 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: do some binkering. You know, there's some last minute changes 634 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: I gotta make to my my projections. And if you 635 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: if fans are wondering, we're not doing the fifty three 636 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: man roster prediction this year and this weird year. We 637 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: can't be given away secrets. You know. We can't be 638 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: letting the Browns know. We can't be letting the Browns 639 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: know who's gonna make the team, because they would clearly 640 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: listen to the podcast and know that who I take 641 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: is who's gonna be on the team. They would they 642 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: would listen to you and throw that out the window. 643 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we I was gonna go. I'm not. 644 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not. But if you can still the clocks of 645 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: chicken uh to enter in the contests. Are you picked 646 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: the team contest? You gotta get that done asap, um, 647 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: So go ahead and do that if you haven't done 648 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: so already. But just in case you were wondering if 649 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: you were waiting for the two man roster production podcast 650 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: before entering, we're not gonna do that this year. We're 651 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna do it too between us. We still should do 652 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: it between us, and then next week we can share 653 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: who came out on top. Can we do a little 654 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: real talk? I mean the reason for that is there's 655 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: no preseason this year, right, Teams haven't seen other teams players, right, 656 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: and so all the secrets stay. Yeah, and I'll tell 657 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: us one last thing out before we sign off. I 658 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: had a dream last night Garrett Ravens in the playoffs 659 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: and they went with a win. Jimmy Smith with a 660 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: pick six. Oh yeah, against the team the opponent, the 661 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Okay, okay, whose quarterbacks? It's Patrick or Toua. 662 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: I didn't it didn't get that far. I didn't see 663 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: you through the pick. I just saw you got the pick, alight. 664 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: I woke up in a great mood this morning. I 665 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: was like, it felt really good. I like that. Yeah, 666 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: I think Jim is gonna have a really good year 667 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: by the way. Side note, but we'll we'll talk about 668 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: that next week and I see the Predictions podcast, so um, 669 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much to everyone for listening. Thanks you 670 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: to the Sean for some great insight and talking about 671 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: this season. So uh we will be back with you 672 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: next week and the countdown is on. We can't wait 673 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: for football. Thanks so much, talk you guys to