WEBVTT - When It’s Time To Leave with Callie Brownson

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent Pym's Cup and fifty percent Purple Drink, but we

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<v Speaker 1>still haven't gotten our hands on a ben yet. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>February seventh, and on today's show, we'll be kicking it

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<v Speaker 1>with Callie Bronson, former Cleveland Brown's assistant coach now senior

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<v Speaker 1>director of High Performance and USA National Football Operations. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about getting the US ready for flag football in

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, getting to contribute to a global movement, what

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<v Speaker 1>she learned from the NFL, and how she handled being

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<v Speaker 1>on a staff with a problematic, high profile player, plus

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<v Speaker 1>how not to celebrate National Girls and Women in Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Day and NWSL WNBA crossover in the Rose City, and

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<v Speaker 1>bracket season is back, Baby, It's all coming up right

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<v Speaker 1>after this Welcome back slices, Happy Friday. Here's what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know today in idiotic news. Trump signed an

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<v Speaker 1>executive order on Wednesday banning transgender athletes from participating in

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<v Speaker 1>Girls in Women's sports. The quote keeping Men Out of

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<v Speaker 1>Women's Sports order mandates that schools and institutions receiving federal

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<v Speaker 1>funding must abide by the new administration's interpretation of Title

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<v Speaker 1>nin where quote unquote, sex is defined as the gender

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<v Speaker 1>a person is assigned at birth, worth noting. On his

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<v Speaker 1>first day in office, Trump issued an executive order declaring

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<v Speaker 1>that the US government would only recognize two sexes, limiting

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<v Speaker 1>the definition of a male or female to a person's

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<v Speaker 1>reproductive cells at conception, and requiring that the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>used the term sex instead of gender. Trump will allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>lean on the Department of Education to help investigate and

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<v Speaker 1>enforce this new executive order, presumably the same Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Education he's seeking to dismantle. Also no word yet on

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<v Speaker 1>how they plan to investigate whether someone is a girl

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<v Speaker 1>or a boy and how to enforce that. In a

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<v Speaker 1>statement about the executive order, NCAA President Charlie Baker said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we strongly believe that clear, consistent, and uniform eligibility standards

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<v Speaker 1>would best serve today's student athletes instead of a patchwork

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<v Speaker 1>of conflicting state laws and court decisions. To that end,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump's order provides a clear national standard.

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<v Speaker 2>Baker continued.

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<v Speaker 1>The NCAA Board of Governors is reviewing the executive order

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<v Speaker 1>and will take necessary steps to align NCAA policy in

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<v Speaker 1>the coming days. Subject to further guidance from the administration,

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<v Speaker 1>the Association will continue to help foster welcoming environments on

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<v Speaker 1>campuses for all student athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>We stand ready to assist.

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<v Speaker 1>Schools as they look for ways to support any student

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<v Speaker 1>athletes affected by changes in the policy.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not lost on us, y'all that Trump announced this

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<v Speaker 1>executive order on National Girls and Women in Sports Day.

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<v Speaker 2>The cruelty is the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though we had a feeling this was coming, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we dreaded that this might be coming, it is

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<v Speaker 1>still extremely upsetting. We're sending love to all the athletes

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<v Speaker 1>and all the families affected, and we will certainly still

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<v Speaker 1>be covering this issue more in the future. Trans Girls

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<v Speaker 1>and Women in Sport are girls and women in Sport.

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<v Speaker 1>In NWSL news, the Denver expansion franchise has become the

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<v Speaker 1>fastest new side in league history to reach five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>season ticket deposits. Denver received fifty two hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>deposits only three days after being named the NWSL's sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>team on January thirtieth. That's a huge show of support

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<v Speaker 1>and further proof that fans in the Mile High City

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<v Speaker 1>were eager for their first women's pro sports team in

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<v Speaker 1>a major national league.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you live in the Denver area?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to the site where you can sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for season tickets in our show notes in NWSL and

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA news, it was announced on Thursday that the Portland

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<v Speaker 1>Thorns and the Cities yet to be named WNBA expansion

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<v Speaker 1>team will train together at a brand new seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar training facility that's expected to open ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty six WNBA season, part of a larger

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty million dollar project. Both teams are

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<v Speaker 1>owned by the Bethal family, who purchased the Thorns in

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<v Speaker 1>January of twenty twenty four and then won the bid

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<v Speaker 1>for the WNBA's fifteenth team in September of the same year.

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<v Speaker 1>Struction will take place in stages, with the training facility

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<v Speaker 1>coming first, but eventually the family hopes to build out

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<v Speaker 1>a broader campus that will function as a dedicated center

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<v Speaker 1>for women's sports performance and recovery. Per Thorn's release, the

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<v Speaker 1>completed twelve acre campus will include a sixty three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>square foot training facility, a seventeen thousand square foot practice

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<v Speaker 1>gym with two full sized basketball courts, two full sized

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<v Speaker 1>soccer pitches with an outdoor training zone, a five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>square foot strength and training facility with top of the

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<v Speaker 1>line equipment, an outdoor turf zone and a yoga pilate's room.

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<v Speaker 1>Dedicated dressing rooms for THORNSFC and WNBA Portland, a dining

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<v Speaker 1>room with a full time chef and nutritionist, dedicated rooms

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<v Speaker 1>for players, families and team meeting rooms and social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Content rooms, and more.

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<v Speaker 1>One other cool tidbit, the Bethals are working with Workspace

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<v Speaker 1>Property Trust to repurpose a former Nike office complex west

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<v Speaker 1>of Portland in order to minimize environmental impact While building

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<v Speaker 1>out this vision, We'll link to the Thorns release and

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<v Speaker 1>mockups for the facility in our show notes. We love

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<v Speaker 1>these facility wars. Y'all keep battling to be the best teams.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to see it more. WNBA News free agent

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Hayes is headed to the Golden State Valkyries. The

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four to sixth Woman of the Year signed

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<v Speaker 1>with the WNBA's thirteenth team and will rock Valkyrie Violet

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<v Speaker 1>this upcoming season. After coming out of WNBA retirement last

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<v Speaker 1>year to join the Las Vegas Aces. She's a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>year vet and is currently hooping in the Unrivaled Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>three on three League with former Aces teammate Kate Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>who also moved from Vegas to the Bay this offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Hayes brings flat out scoring ability and a veteran presence

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<v Speaker 1>to a team that's mostly composed of youngsters and some

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<v Speaker 1>excellent glue players, led by first time WNBA head coach

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<v Speaker 1>Natalie Nicasse. In Unrivaled News, the bracket for the league's

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<v Speaker 1>Won on one tournament dropped, and mile my, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some intriguing matchups coming our way. Kaylea McBride versus d

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<v Speaker 1>Jna Carrington, Jackie Young versus Rakia Jackson, Tiffany Hayes versus

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Williams, and those are all just the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait to see where this tournament goes. It

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<v Speaker 1>starts on Monday, and while originally it was billed as

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<v Speaker 1>a winner take all, the site now reads that the

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<v Speaker 1>winner will earn two hundred thousand dollars for them sols

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<v Speaker 1>and ten thousand dollars for each player on their basketball club,

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<v Speaker 1>plus runner up gets fifty k and semi finalists get

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand. Of course, because the folks behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes know we welcome the possibility of maximum chaos. Co

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<v Speaker 1>founders Defisa Collier and Brianna Stewart are on opposite sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the bracket. And get this, there's even a bracket challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>just like in college hoops, but with a twist. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>link to the instructions on how to fill yours out

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<v Speaker 1>in our show notes. We happen to notice that the

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<v Speaker 1>version on the Unrivaled website has a super dark background,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you print it out, you're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see what you write. But thankfully, super Slice

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Maldonado saves the day again. He independently of the

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<v Speaker 1>Unrivaled one being posted, made one himself and it has

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<v Speaker 1>a white background, So if you go to My Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Sky you'll find it, or we'll put the link in

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<v Speaker 1>my show notes. That's an easier one to print and

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<v Speaker 1>fill out and share. Some Unrivaled games tonight two. We

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<v Speaker 1>love these Friday night faceoffs. First up, it's the six

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<v Speaker 1>and zero Lunar Owls versus My Phantom BC at seven

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen pm Eastern, followed by roseby C versus Miss BC.

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<v Speaker 1>More games Saturday too, we'll link to the schedule in

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<v Speaker 1>our show notes. The college softball season kicked off yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>so there are a bunch of teams ranked and unranked

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the diamond today. Too many to preview, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>link to the day's full schedule. You guessed it in

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<v Speaker 1>our show notes to pro Vibes. League one Volleyball is

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<v Speaker 1>back tonight. Love Atlanta faces Love Salt Lake at nine

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern at Maverick Center in Salt Lake City. You

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<v Speaker 1>can watch that live on Love dot com and Dezone.

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<v Speaker 1>Love's got two other games tomorrow as well. We'll link

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<v Speaker 1>to the schedule in our show notes. And don't forget

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<v Speaker 1>it's Love with the BLOVB. Don't be don't be googling

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<v Speaker 1>Love dot com. I don't know what's on that site.

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<v Speaker 1>More vibes. The Pro Volleyball Federation's got two games tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>First up is Grand Rapids Rise versus Club is Fury

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<v Speaker 1>at seven Eastern, streaming live on YouTube. Then it's Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>Thrill at San Diego Mojo, starting at ten oh five

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern on Volleyball World TV.

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<v Speaker 2>PVF has two other games tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to the schedule in our show notes elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the sport adjacent sphere, The met Gala's reviving its

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<v Speaker 1>host committee tradition this year, and a few of our

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<v Speaker 1>faves were tapped to service members. Team USA gymnasts Simone Biles,

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<v Speaker 1>wnba U, Unrivaled player Angel Reese, and Team USA sprinter

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<v Speaker 1>Shkari Richardson all made the list, which also includes folks

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<v Speaker 1>like mister Biles, Regina King, Jenell Money and Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James is the honorary chair.

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<v Speaker 1>The committee will support the evening's festivities and help set

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<v Speaker 1>the tone for this year's dress code. Tailored for You

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<v Speaker 1>a nod to the museum's super fine tailoring Black Style

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<v Speaker 1>Costume Institute exhibit. Can't wait to see what looks they

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<v Speaker 1>put together. Finally, in college hoops, a couple of big matchups

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<v Speaker 1>going down this weekend. On Saturday, number eight Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>tries to bounce back from a sixty five fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>loss to.

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<v Speaker 2>Top ranked UCLA the other night.

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<v Speaker 1>They traveled just a few more miles to play number

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<v Speaker 1>seven USC and then on Sunday, Number four Texas host

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<v Speaker 1>number two South Carolina for an SEC showdown. We'll link

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<v Speaker 1>to the full weekend schedule in our show notes finished

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<v Speaker 1>up Day two of Radio Row Slices, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say I'm leaving the ick behind and finding just joy.

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<v Speaker 1>So many old friends and colleagues, athletes that I've covered

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, and people that I am so glad

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<v Speaker 1>to finally meet in person. As long as I steer

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<v Speaker 1>clear of that outkickstage, just joy the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>way out. Also, I got to quickly chat with Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>and Escu. We talked unrivaled in Phantom BC as she

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<v Speaker 1>hustled between interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to get her. We'll be sure to grab.

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<v Speaker 1>Her for the show soon when she's not hawking products

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<v Speaker 1>and overscheduled. As for last night, I continued to take

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<v Speaker 1>all the res and bop around the French Quarter, heading

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<v Speaker 1>back to see my guy at Aaron Rose for another

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<v Speaker 1>frozen Irish coffee, then off to the Davenport Lounge at

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<v Speaker 1>the Ritz for a Pims cup that's a New Orleans specialty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the spot where the chiefs are stay in this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to some jazz from local legend trumpeter Jeremy Davenport.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it was off to hear some live piano at

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<v Speaker 1>Lafitte's blacksmith's shop built in nearly seventeen hundreds. It's alleged

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<v Speaker 1>to be the oldest structure used as a bar in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. Good times always there. I took a risk.

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<v Speaker 1>I ordered the frozen foodoo Dackery, which is called Purple Drink.

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<v Speaker 1>It is made with bourbon and ever Clear, but somehow

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<v Speaker 1>just tastes like a purple jolly rancher.

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<v Speaker 2>Very dangerous. Just had one.

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<v Speaker 1>I did some sightseeing on Bourbon Street. Always some good

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<v Speaker 1>people watching there, grab some food, hung out with some friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoyed the scene and things are only going to get

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<v Speaker 1>hotter and busier and crazier as we get closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend and the big game.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of the big game, quick props.

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<v Speaker 1>Two former Cornell football players are facing off on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Nours out of the Chiefs and Jalx Hunt of

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, both in their rookie NFL season. So either

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<v Speaker 1>way this weekend Cornell wins. Hope y'all enjoyed the game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a quick break and when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Callie Bronson joined me on Radio Row to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what she learned from the NFL that she's

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<v Speaker 1>brought with her to the world of women's flag football.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining US now.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a barrier breaking coach at the college and professional

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<v Speaker 1>levels who just joined USA Football as the Senior Director

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<v Speaker 1>of High Performance and National Team Operations after spending five

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<v Speaker 1>seasons with the Cleveland Browns in the NFL, acting as

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<v Speaker 1>chief of staff and assistant wide receivers coach. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>first woman ever to coach an NFL position group in

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<v Speaker 1>a regular season game. She was a two time champion

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<v Speaker 1>with the DC Divas in the Women's Football Alliance as

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<v Speaker 1>a free safety and running back, and a two time

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<v Speaker 1>gold medalist with the US women's National American Football team.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Calie Bronson. What's up, Callie?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a lot DC Divas. Yeah, how'd you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Name?

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<v Speaker 3>Was favorite?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's just say I wasn't on a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the advertisements. I didn't fit the Diva mold, but I

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<v Speaker 4>still repped when I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Is that the same league that had the

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Lady Bells.

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<v Speaker 4>Or that Yeah, a long time for two years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and now they're the fansoms I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, shout out to my sister. Katie always weasel

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<v Speaker 1>it in. I don't think she talks enough about how

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<v Speaker 1>cool it was that she played professional football for two years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to first start with this new gig because

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<v Speaker 1>you're overseeing USA Football's US national team program.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, so obviously the big news that came out

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<v Speaker 4>was flag footballs in the Olympics. I think to preface

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<v Speaker 4>that and rewind like there's always been We've always had

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<v Speaker 4>national teams. I played for the women's sacle national team,

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously in the past few years we fielded flag

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<v Speaker 4>national teams both men and women, adult and junior national teams. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously now it's in the Olympics. Everybody's talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Big deal. Men and women adult national teams are in

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<v Speaker 3>the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 4>So with that happening, we're seeing such a shift and

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<v Speaker 4>a growth in the sport. So really my job is

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out our process, both player evaluations, to player selection,

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<v Speaker 4>to coach selection, to how we practice, how we train.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're really kind of taking our operation and souping

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<v Speaker 4>it up to get to the point where over the

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<v Speaker 4>next few years we're putting together the perfect operation for

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<v Speaker 4>our national teams.

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<v Speaker 3>To go and win gold in LA.

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<v Speaker 1>And You're coming from the NFL, so they want someone

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<v Speaker 1>that knows how things run at the very highest level

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<v Speaker 1>of football and to bring those standards to flag exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, and I always I've already done it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm in week three. So I go back

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<v Speaker 4>to a lot of the stuff I dealt with as

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<v Speaker 4>a chief of staff, you know, putting these processes in place,

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<v Speaker 4>and understanding what's going to be the best and really

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<v Speaker 4>like the role all of us, everybody on the high

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<v Speaker 4>performance team, our job is to just create the best

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<v Speaker 4>possible environment for our players and our coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>That's sick.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about the timing of the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>Because whenever I talk to women athletes, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Sue Bird is like, of course, I'm jealous that right

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<v Speaker 1>now people are making millions of dollars and they have

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<v Speaker 1>the best resources that they're flying charter and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you wish that you would have had a shot

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<v Speaker 1>at it.

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<v Speaker 3>At the Olympics. I think about it all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, just just in general, I think about

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<v Speaker 4>sports for women right now and how amazing it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what an awesome time to be a female athlete,

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<v Speaker 4>Like whether it be Olympic level or even what we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing in a WNBA, Like, it's so cool to see.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I mean, of course those of us who

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<v Speaker 4>are competitors and put our bodies on the line are

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<v Speaker 4>a little jealous, but I'm also so excited. It's so

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<v Speaker 4>cool to see how this has grown. And it's late,

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<v Speaker 4>it's overdue, but it's happening, and we have to keep

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<v Speaker 4>driving that momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm definitely a little bittersweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like to convince myself that if all these

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<v Speaker 1>things had been around when I was a kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have worked harder and then I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>at the level of being in the Olympics, even though yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably isn't true. Okay, tell me about this Champions Rising documentary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so obviously they followed our national teams last year,

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<v Speaker 4>going through the whole process. I love it because it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a great way for the random person

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<v Speaker 4>who wants to learn more about what the national teams

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<v Speaker 4>are because it follows the whole journey from trials to

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<v Speaker 4>training camp all the way through competition, so you get

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<v Speaker 4>such a great view of what it is to be

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<v Speaker 4>a national team player, but also what our process is.

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<v Speaker 4>I get so many questions, especially since I took this job,

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<v Speaker 4>on what our operation is all about, and hey, I

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<v Speaker 4>never heard of this. This like gives such concrete legitimacy

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<v Speaker 4>to what we do and how it works. You watch that,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, this is a full on operation, and it is.

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<v Speaker 4>We're the national team. So I think it's awesome. It's

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<v Speaker 4>coming out. It'll be on the YouTube channel. The trailer

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<v Speaker 4>came out, I encourage everybody to watch the trailer because

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a great little snippet of what it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be about. But when it comes out on

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube channels and through USA Football, I encourage everybody to

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<v Speaker 4>watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you have any.

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<v Speaker 4>Questions about what we're about and what it is, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a great foundation for what the national team is and

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<v Speaker 4>you get to see the sport from some pretty cool

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<v Speaker 4>angles too.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just feels like the ability to film in places and

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<v Speaker 1>have more documentaries of every kind has allowed us to

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<v Speaker 1>see the legitimacy and value of things that previously weren't

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<v Speaker 1>given that treatment because it was primarily focused on men's

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<v Speaker 1>sports and also goes documentary is much rare, and also

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<v Speaker 1>with streaming there's more space to put.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, yep, and I'm looking forward to watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to I want to ask you what

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<v Speaker 1>you find most exciting about the current moment for women's

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<v Speaker 1>slag football.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot, to be honest, I'm excited about a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>But the biggest thing is like where we are and

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<v Speaker 4>how competitive it is, you know, watching these women play

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<v Speaker 4>and even even the girls on the junior national team.

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<v Speaker 4>It's come such a long way and it's it's only growing.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I'm most excited about is being at this

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<v Speaker 4>point and looking back in a couple of years and

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<v Speaker 4>then looking back as we go to LA and being like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>we we just built.

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<v Speaker 3>Something very special.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the other thing that's being that I take as

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<v Speaker 4>a task of mine is yeah, we need to go

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<v Speaker 4>win gold, right, and we need to take it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>a great two great teams to LA, but we want

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<v Speaker 4>to grow this for globally. We want every team that

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<v Speaker 4>shows up in LA to be competitive. We want every

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<v Speaker 4>game to be you know, close and competitive in this

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<v Speaker 4>display of the amazing athletes that are part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So part of our approach these next couple of years

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<v Speaker 4>is to continue to grow the game and help in

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<v Speaker 4>our capacity to do that and help these other countries

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<v Speaker 4>get to a point where when we go to La

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<v Speaker 4>everybody who watches.

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<v Speaker 3>Flag football is like, wow, I have to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>The only flag football name I know men's are women's

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<v Speaker 1>is Deanna Flores.

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<v Speaker 3>Freaking badass. She's a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>We were on the Gatoray Women's Advisory Board together, Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>national team quarterback. Okay, so I'm like, Okay, Mexico's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be great because they've got Tana.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, great, they got a good team and they

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<v Speaker 4>have they have done a great job with the sport

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<v Speaker 4>of football too, because I know when when I both

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<v Speaker 4>coached and played on the on the tackle team, the

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<v Speaker 4>national team have a great women's tackle team too. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they definitely deserve their flowers and their respect in that regard.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's always a pretty competitive matchup anytime the US

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<v Speaker 4>national teams team up with with Team Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's the win, of course. Great. Good to know

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<v Speaker 3>it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of times, when say, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>there's developments in the softball world, softball players are excited,

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<v Speaker 1>but also men who play baseball don't necessarily want to

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<v Speaker 1>be diverted to something if baseball is their love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about flag football being the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's getting pushed for women and what it might mean

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<v Speaker 1>for tackle football for women.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, so one of the things I like to

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<v Speaker 4>say when when when this comes up is they're vastly

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<v Speaker 4>different sports, so I mean vastly tackle versus flag.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not gonna be for everybody, right, there are.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna be plenty of women who currently play in the

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<v Speaker 4>in the tackle leagues around the US and even around

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<v Speaker 4>the world who don't need to venture into the space.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's a feeling because it's in the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're vastly different sports, not going to be for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>But what we're we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking at is the transition of athletes from every sport,

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<v Speaker 4>so men and women, you know, basketball players, Like what

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<v Speaker 4>are the translatable skills that make a successful flag football

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<v Speaker 4>player that exists in other sports? I mean, that's where

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of that talent pool is going to come from.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've we've kind of started looking into all those

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<v Speaker 4>things and it's been really exciting because you know, to

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<v Speaker 4>that point, it's not going to be for everybody, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's okay. You know, well, tackle football have resources still Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, yeah, absolutely, and and and tackle still falls

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<v Speaker 4>under us at USA Football. You know, we are the

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<v Speaker 4>governing body of football in the In the US, it's

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<v Speaker 4>flag and tackle. So we have not forgotten about tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>It's near and dear to my heart, so I certainly

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<v Speaker 4>haven't forgotten about it. But we're very invested in all

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<v Speaker 4>those things.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very small, were you always very small? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>picture you're wrapping someone up and taking him down.

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<v Speaker 4>I have some perfect form, I have some pictures, and

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<v Speaker 4>yes I worked on my form, but I was a

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<v Speaker 4>little beef heer back then, in a good way, like

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<v Speaker 4>I think. I think when I was playing, I was

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<v Speaker 4>one fifty five, one sixty on this frame. I had

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<v Speaker 4>some muscles I've leaned out in my retired years.

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<v Speaker 3>None of the sports I played allowed tackling.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't always stop me, though, and I don't wish

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<v Speaker 1>I'd had more opportunity, don't doubt that.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask how you first got into football. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up loving the game because my dad loved

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<v Speaker 4>the game, so he went to University of Miami, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I grew up watching like the glory days of Miami,

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<v Speaker 4>like Larry Kocher was the head coach, and all those

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<v Speaker 4>guys come through the Hurricane program, and so that's what

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<v Speaker 4>we did on Saturdays. We watched Miami Hurricane football and

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<v Speaker 4>we used to go to games, and we used to

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<v Speaker 4>go down for spring practice because we still he still

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<v Speaker 4>had a house down there in Coral Gables.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was kind of ingrained in me from the

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<v Speaker 3>jump to love football.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, baseball was my first love because I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up watching Cal Ripken in Baltimore and that was hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to shy away from that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But football always like had a different pool on me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you got into soopta because they wouldn't let

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<v Speaker 1>you play fastball, let me play football.

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't have to answer this if it's sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>You were raised by your dad, Yeah, solo dad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how come? Well? My parents got divorced early on.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom was kind of going through some stuff personally,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was just the right decision. And I tip

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<v Speaker 4>my hat to my dad every day for making hard

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<v Speaker 4>decisions like that. But it really made me who I

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<v Speaker 4>am today, and I'm so grateful for him. Tough things

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<v Speaker 4>for families to go through but necessary things and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just I'm so happy to call him dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so you play softball in college, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you get back into football.

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<v Speaker 3>You've always had this like love of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in twenty nineteen, you became the first woman to

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<v Speaker 1>coach full time in Division one college football as an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive quality control coach for Dartmouth. Yep, that was my

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<v Speaker 1>number one choice. I did not get in, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed where I went. Will not hold it

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<v Speaker 1>against them for the rest of my life, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I saw to him. What do you think coach Buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Teven saw in you back then? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when we met. We met at the Manning

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<v Speaker 4>Passing Academy. They're doing a clinic for women and girls

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<v Speaker 4>down in Thibodaux, Louisiana at Nicols State University.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like early August. It was so hot.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I remember that part, and I remember Buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>We just clicked.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>We sat there the night before the camp with a

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<v Speaker 4>whiteboard and he and I went through. He had never

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<v Speaker 4>really done a camp for women and girls before. She

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<v Speaker 4>was like, how advanced did we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever?

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<v Speaker 4>So I sat there in the locker room with him,

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<v Speaker 4>and we were writing everything, all the stations down on

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<v Speaker 4>a whiteboard and it was just one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>that felt so organic and so easy, like we saw

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<v Speaker 4>things the same way, we communicated the same way. He

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<v Speaker 4>was a very like organized I need to know what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I operate.

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<v Speaker 4>And so then the next day at the camp, just

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<v Speaker 4>rolling around, he could see how much fun I was having.

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<v Speaker 4>And a week later I got a call and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is, but I I want

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<v Speaker 4>you to be a part of our football program. Could

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<v Speaker 4>come up in intern for us during camp, and I

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<v Speaker 4>told him, I said, I share the sentence, the sentiment,

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<v Speaker 4>you know I I I was so honored to work

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<v Speaker 4>with you. And even in those two days what I

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<v Speaker 4>learned was incredible. So kind of took off from there

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<v Speaker 4>and even when I left Dartmouth, but he was one

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<v Speaker 4>of my closest friends. We didn't stop talking and we

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<v Speaker 4>were always in touch and somebody had considered a really

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<v Speaker 4>close front.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he tragically passed away in a bike accident, but

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<v Speaker 1>had a great, great resume of helping make the sport

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<v Speaker 1>more safe, yes, and more equitable and divorse absolutely and

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason you were ready for that job is

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<v Speaker 1>you played college softball and then you transferred to George Mason.

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<v Speaker 1>And while at George Mason, that's when you started playing

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<v Speaker 1>with the DCDA. So you're playing alongside women in their

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<v Speaker 1>twenties with full time jobs while you're at college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how much you wanted to get back into football.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you translate playing to being ready for an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity at Dartmouth when that opportunity presented itself.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great question, and I think it's something that

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of former players can can attest to. But

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<v Speaker 4>when I was playing, I was such an analytical I

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<v Speaker 4>saw the game from a way that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>learn every facet of it was as a film study nerd.

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<v Speaker 4>I really wanted to learn the game schematically. And I

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<v Speaker 4>played both sides of the ball, so that really helped me.

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<v Speaker 4>Understanding defense has made me a better wide receiver, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>understanding the wide receiver position and the specifics that going

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<v Speaker 4>too that made me a better defensive back.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just I was like a football junkie. I

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<v Speaker 3>loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>And even on the field, you know, the resources in

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<v Speaker 4>women's stockle are not where they need to be, so

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<v Speaker 4>some of us had to step up and be coaches

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<v Speaker 4>during practice, you know. And I just always had a

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<v Speaker 4>knack for it. I was coaching high school softball at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, trying to make some money while I was

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<v Speaker 4>in school and all so forth, and so I loved

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<v Speaker 4>coaching because coaching is just teaching, And to me, coaching

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<v Speaker 4>is teaching on something that you're like massively passionate about,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's coaching. So I was like, I love football,

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<v Speaker 4>I love the coach, and that's kind of how it intertwined.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's amazing. Yeah, it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you decide when you're with the Browns and

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting a lot of publicity as one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few coaches in the NFL women coaches, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>decide whether to just do the work or to lean

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<v Speaker 1>into what representation means for other women and how you're

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<v Speaker 1>in flos might impact future generations.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important to find the balance because at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, you're not gonna be in

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<v Speaker 4>that position of influence if you're not doing the work

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not doing your job, you know, So so

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a balance. It's like I always say,

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<v Speaker 4>like with some of the women who jump in there,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like finding a way to be passive and aggressive

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>So knowing I'm very passive aggressive as joking, I will

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna that's my follow up. I'll be asking no.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's it's it's one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 4>do need to use your platform. I always tell like

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<v Speaker 4>some of the women who come in, like when you

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<v Speaker 4>get asked a question when you do something, if you

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<v Speaker 4>do a podcast, if you do an event, are you

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<v Speaker 4>doing it for yourself or you're doing it for the

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<v Speaker 4>greater good. If you're going to answer that question you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing it for the greater good, then it's worth your time.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're doing it for yourself and your self promotion,

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<v Speaker 4>go back to work, like pick up something to do,

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<v Speaker 4>because I think that that's that's where you have to

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<v Speaker 4>get really careful. But I think anything you do to

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<v Speaker 4>promote women in football, and it's for the benefit of

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<v Speaker 4>anybody else who wants to get in or who is

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<v Speaker 4>currently in, you should do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely use your platform.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to coach Low about this Lori Locust, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said the problem is like if you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of attention that other people around the same position

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<v Speaker 1>aren't getting. It can isolate you, and it can make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel othered in a way that doesn't bring you

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<v Speaker 1>to the team.

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<v Speaker 3>And a huge part of being one of the only women.

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<v Speaker 1>On the staff is to make sure that you can

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the squad and not always on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. And so she was very careful and continues

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<v Speaker 1>to be very careful about what publicity she does do

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<v Speaker 1>and how she uses her platform, and then also not

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<v Speaker 1>othering herself.

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<v Speaker 4>And I agree, and I think you just have to

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<v Speaker 4>be selective in the things you do. You know, at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, you got hired to do

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<v Speaker 4>a job. It's cool that it created this platform for you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually great that it did. But I always found

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<v Speaker 4>too like doing a really good job at what you

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<v Speaker 4>do and then getting promoted, that's a bigger message than

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<v Speaker 4>anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>So always choose job and work first, and it's okay

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<v Speaker 3>to say no to things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>While you're with Cleveland, the team acquired quarterback to Shan

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<v Speaker 1>Watson after he was sued by more than two dozen

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<v Speaker 1>female massage therapists for sexual arrassment and sexual assault. He's

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<v Speaker 1>settled twenty claims of sexual misconduct. I often find that

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<v Speaker 1>marginalized groups are expected to a advocate for themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>their peers, while members of the offending group aren't taken

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<v Speaker 1>to the path for their silence and their complicity. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect you to talk specifically about Watson. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wonder whether you felt a particular burden as a female

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<v Speaker 1>member of that coaching staff, either to speak out or

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<v Speaker 1>express or displeasure or or otherwise. Did people demand something

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<v Speaker 1>of you they didn't demand of others.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say this, I have so much respect for

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin and Andrew Berry already. How they handled that situation

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<v Speaker 4>internally was even more respectable. You know, I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't feel marginalized. I didn't feel like I couldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>say my piece. I didn't, you know, I never felt

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<v Speaker 4>that way. I think between the two of them, internally

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<v Speaker 4>they hand you tell our lesteners who they are. Andrew

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<v Speaker 4>Berry is the general manager of the Cleveland Browns and

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Stefanski's the head coach, and you know, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they really care about the people around them,

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<v Speaker 4>and they understand, you know, certain decisions and there's controversy

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<v Speaker 4>behind them.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say I never felt isolated.

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<v Speaker 4>I never felt not supported, I never felt unheard, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's a credit to them as leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I feel like it's frustrating when I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in the space of speaking out about issues like that,

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>or even when there were issues at ESPN, people would

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<v Speaker 1>come to me and be like, how do you keep working.

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<v Speaker 3>There when this guy did this?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and I'm like, are you asking all the men

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<v Speaker 1>why you're not? And we can't be the ones being

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<v Speaker 1>victimized and also the ones expected to put our next

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, our jobs on the line, and have

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else step.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, so and I will.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say this too about those two I and continue

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<v Speaker 4>to still have so much faith in their leadership and

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<v Speaker 4>what they would do that at the end of it all,

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<v Speaker 4>if they felt it was the right thing for the organization,

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<v Speaker 4>I was with them, you know. And that's how I

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<v Speaker 4>feel about them as individuals and leaders. I would run

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<v Speaker 4>through a brick wall for both of them. So if

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<v Speaker 4>it's a direction they wanted to go, I'm right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. Then why did you know it was

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<v Speaker 3>time to leave?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, this opportunity is what made me start considering it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't really have any you know, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL forever. And you know, other people had expected

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<v Speaker 4>for what the next five to ten years of my

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.239
<v Speaker 4>life were supposed to be in the NFL. When this

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 4>opportunity came up, I just saw this as an incredible

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 4>opportunity that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was once in a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I continue to talk to the people that

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<v Speaker 4>you say football and what they envisioned for this role,

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<v Speaker 4>I had to ask myself, like, if I look back

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<v Speaker 4>in a year or two years or three years and

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<v Speaker 4>pass this up, would I be okay with it? And

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel like I would be. This is something

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<v Speaker 4>really special and it's going to change. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just the Olympics. It's going to change the nature

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<v Speaker 4>of American football in the United States and in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>like American football is in the Olympics, which makes a

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<v Speaker 4>big statement. And we at this point have the opportunity

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 4>to build it how we want it to be, and

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 4>open it up how we want it to be, and

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 4>educate people on how we wanted to be and get

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<v Speaker 4>coaches up to speed. Like it's such a special thing

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<v Speaker 4>that when I do look back in five or ten

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<v Speaker 4>years and we get past the Olympics. It's something that

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<v Speaker 4>you can literally say like, I'm so proud I was

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<v Speaker 4>a part of that. So it was hard for me

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 4>to say no, like honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got the talent that if you change your

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 1>mind on the NFL it's calling again, you can always

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>go back. Of course, what was the biggest lesson you

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<v Speaker 1>learn from your time in Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 4>I learned a lot, But I would say one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things I really respected about coach Stefanski is he's

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<v Speaker 4>so cool, calm and collected through everything. And I said

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 4>this to him he or two when I was the

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<v Speaker 4>chief of staff. I was like, I need to learn

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 4>composure from you because as chief of staff, you have

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 4>so much going on, and I always, you know, I

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 4>would let myself. Biggest thing I took away was that

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 4>part you got overwhelmed a lot. It was it was

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 4>just a lot, you know, and you didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>always react to things.

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like in the game when the.

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<v Speaker 4>Quarterback throws an interception and they immediately zoom in on

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 4>the head coach, yeah, you know, And I was like, Okay,

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 4>who would I be in that situation?

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 3>And so I literally I told him, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Year two, I was like, that's what I'm gonna work

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<v Speaker 4>on this year because I think in order to lead people,

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<v Speaker 4>they need to see that, even in times of trial,

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<v Speaker 4>you're unshaken.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's who he is.

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<v Speaker 4>So I really worked on that with him, and I

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<v Speaker 4>mean we saw it all the way through I mean

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three season.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything, We went.

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<v Speaker 4>Through four or five quarterbacks, all this stuff, and Kevin

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<v Speaker 4>every meeting, even behind closed doors, unshaken. So I've really

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<v Speaker 4>tasked myself with that. That's the biggest thing I took away.

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<v Speaker 4>It is like, how can I be a leader that

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<v Speaker 4>went things go awry and the boat starts to rock.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's looking like she's cool, So I'm cool. Yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Final two questions honest answer, no bias. Who will win

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<v Speaker 1>the first Olympics and women's flag football the US?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Who will win a Super Bowl? First? The Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>Bears or the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cleveland Browns, God damn it bias that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of bias. Clean honest answer, y'all don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback situation figured out.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cleveland Browns figured out, oh we do dog pound.

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<v Speaker 1>The Leeland Browns figure out is what the fans have

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<v Speaker 1>been saying for literally decade, and they'll do it again

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<v Speaker 1>this year. It's fine. They've been telling the Bears that too. Callie,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for the time. We're looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to take another quick break. When we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We celebrate Black History Month by introducing you to a

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<v Speaker 1>pioneering softball player.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Slices.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Black History Month, and throughout February, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>shine a spotlight on some black women's sports pioneers you

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<v Speaker 1>might not know about. Since college softball season just got underway, feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Fitting to start there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're certain you've heard of Jackie Robinson, the man who

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<v Speaker 1>broke Major League Baseball's color.

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<v Speaker 2>Barrier, but who led the way in softball.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the women who took the field first was

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Harris. If you've seen a League of their Own,

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<v Speaker 1>Harris as one of the real life players that inspired

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<v Speaker 1>some of the show's characters. According to an excellent article

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<v Speaker 1>by Veronica Wells in Essence magazine, Harris discovered softball through

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<v Speaker 1>a piece she read about a couple of local Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>softball teams back in nineteen forty seven. From there, she

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<v Speaker 1>started working on her skills. As she practiced on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road. One day, a stranger came up

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<v Speaker 1>to her and asked if she'd like to try out

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<v Speaker 1>for a team called the Sunshine Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>She made the team and the rest was history.

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<v Speaker 1>In her long career, which lasted until she was seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four years old, she threw seventy no hitters, pitched four

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<v Speaker 1>perfect games, and scored one hundred and twenty three runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Some folks even called her the Jackie Robinson of softball.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it wasn't all peaches and cream.

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<v Speaker 1>During the time she played, she was often the only

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<v Speaker 1>black woman on her team. Segregation meant she was mistreated

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<v Speaker 1>commared to her white teammates, and sometimes her teammates were

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<v Speaker 1>the ones being racist and showing hostility toward her. Despite

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<v Speaker 1>that and so much more, she went on to become

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<v Speaker 1>the first African American woman inducted into the USA Softball

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. Fast forward to present day, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got so many talented black softballers to cheer on, like Ottissi, Alexander,

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<v Speaker 1>Nijerie Kennedy, and MICHAELA.

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<v Speaker 2>Edenfield, just to name a few.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's still work to be done to ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>young black kids are welcomed in the sport, believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not, In the year twenty twenty four, Olivia Madkins,

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<v Speaker 1>Columbia Softball's first ever black softball player, took the field. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean Columbia softball has been intentionally biased since

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<v Speaker 1>the program's first team was formed in nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily, but it just goes to show that there

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<v Speaker 1>have always been opportunities that.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have gone to black players and didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So hats off to Billy forgetting in the game back

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<v Speaker 1>in the late forties, and more power to Olivia and

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<v Speaker 1>other athletes still breaking down barrier today. We always love

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