WEBVTT - The Audible Ep. 77 | Michael Deiter 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:07.680 All right here we are. It seems like these these 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.239 editions of the audible are coming like rapid fire. It is, 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:12.520 it's still one week away, but it seems like the 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.319 weeks are getting stand up and clogged up with all 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.080 kinds of crap going on. And man, I tell you that, Johnny, 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.520 we we've been around at around a lot of training camps. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.200 By the way, this is the Audible, John kN Jimmy 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.880 kimbocamper with you, and we've been around a lot of 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.600 training camps. And whether this has been a this has 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.280 been a funny and strange and interesting training camp. You know, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.519 starts out with the quarterback situation, and then you you're 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.560 kind of watching that offensive line and and now here 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.760 you you roll in and and all of a sudden, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.519 you know you've got cut down day coming. I think 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.720 if they gotta be at I believe they gotta be 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.560 a fifty three by four o'clock on Saturday. I believe 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.880 that's the timing of it. And this team has already 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.159 jumped a gun. I think cutdown days already started. I 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.040 think I'll tell you if i'm if I'm in that 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.000 locker room right now, I've got my head on the swivel. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.880 How many reps did get today? You know, Turk told 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.840 Bet any moment because you look at the you know, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.040 in surprising to me that you know t J McDonald 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.000 earlier in the week. You know, a bit of a surprise, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.320 but it doesn't doesn't shock me. Hasn't been playing that much. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.679 And and and I think he was. I think I 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.200 think when I look at t J in this defense, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.480 I don't know that he had a spot. I don't know. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.880 It wasn't a linebacker, you know. And I don't think that, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.559 you know, I think his coverage skills weren't quite what 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.080 what you know, what what this team is looking for 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.160 right now. So I think he was kind of a 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.199 man without a position. Uh And the fact that he's 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.679 hasn't been practicing a little bit, so he becomes a 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.759 casualty early on will hold in the the offensive tackle. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.800 Not a surprise there whatsoever. Jordan's Mills. They let go 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.000 Clive Walford, they let go Chase Allimett, they let go 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.480 No surprises there because I think they put a flyer on. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.320 Walford comes in really really didn't do anything to set 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.800 himself apart in that room. And you got the young 0:01:55.800 --> 0:02:01.920 guys Gasecki uh and you got uh Durham Smart Uh. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.800 You know those guys in there. And and so there's 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.600 a lot of a lot of youth in there working 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.640 and working through the way and everything. Who's really has 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.920 been the most He's been the most perfecsistent and most 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.040 productive guy that you've got in that room. So that 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.040 doesn't surprise me. The one that kind of surprised me 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.440 was a Keem Spence. You know, a Keem is a 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.480 guy that you know, not a not a not an 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.560 old guy. I say that because when you start looking 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.919 at start looking at the roster and the guys that 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.000 are leaving the roster, you know, you look at a 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.400 Chems Spence and I ken, I think he was you know, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.680 six years in seven years and maybe something like that. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.360 They let him go. And here was a guy that 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.320 you know, he wasn't gonna be your starter, but he 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.360 was a good rotation guy. And I always thought when 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.600 he played, he played hard and he made plays. And 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.320 then so they decided to let him go. And you 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.600 look in that defensive tackle position. Now you talk about 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.880 a youth movement. The oldest vet in there is going 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.400 into his fourth year in the lead. So you've got 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.239 guys going in their third year, second year and rookies 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.120 going in there. That that is a young, young I'm 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.760 gonna say young, but certainly talented. When you got got 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.640 Shaw and you have Vincent Taylor and you've got Christian Wilkins, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.720 those three, you know, any one of those three could 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.040 be a Pro Bowl guy for you down the road. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.800 And Wilkins you would expect to be a Pro Bowler 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.280 multiple times during his career. But but you but you 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.360 take numbers out of there, John, I just thought it 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.000 was strange, you know, uh with a Keem Spence in 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.799 terms of we saw a lot of them, and he 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.560 was productive and he was been He was able to 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.520 move around that defensive line and and be able to 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.560 give you what you expect out of a guy. You know, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.960 he's seen a lot of football, He's been around a 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.680 lot of football, and I just thought it was shocking. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.200 I thought he was gonna be a guy that you 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.320 could count on in that rotation for the Miami Dolphins. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.240 Now there is a youth movement on this team, not 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.280 only a defensive tackle, it's it's all across the board 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.280 in terms of where you're looking at and that takes 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.200 me back to t J McDonald. Here's the guy that's 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.920 seen a lot of football. He's played free safety's played 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.680 strong safeties, played close to the line of scrimmage, he's 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.000 he's played man coverage against tight ends. He's done a 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.120 little bit of everything. But when you look at the 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.880 way that Patrick Graham, the defensive coordinator, wants to play 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.600 on defense, and you look at the way the head 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:19.120 coach and Brian Flores, what his what he accentuates its speed, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.839 it's trigger, it's tenacity, it's it's things that are moving 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.640 at a rapid pace. And I think that the way 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.679 that they are using those guys in the defensive secondary, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.320 especially Minka Fitzpatrick, I think that was probably the key. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.640 Jamal Wilts those types of guys, when they're moving him 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.200 in and out of position. What I mean by that 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.599 is back off the line of scrimmage and then towards 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.080 the line of scrimmage. You've got quicker, more agile bodies 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.440 that they're using in multiple defensive sets. I think t 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.800 J was kind of caught in between of a scheme 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.719 change because there's no doubt this guy can play football. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.880 There's no doubt in my mind that he's going to 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.160 contribute somewhere in the national but he's got a lay 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.240 in a more traditional defense where you've got a strong 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.320 safety of free safety, and you're not. It's like a 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.400 merry go round in there. You I mean guy, And 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.680 I'm not saying that in a derogatory fashion. It's just 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.360 guys are gonna be in different spots depending And I 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.479 think a lot of this John reflects on the way 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.640 the game is being played right now, the emphasis, the 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.880 emphasis on offense, and John, I've been watching, whether it's 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.640 high school football, college football now that started in NFL 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.560 preseason games. Well, I'll tell you what. I'm throwing the 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.520 ball around because you know there's every time you put 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:39.919 the ball up in the air, now, there's a fifty 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.600 fifty chance you're gonna get a past interference call, right, 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.880 So why not keep the ball near and But but 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.400 if that's gonna be the case, then you better have 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.279 a lot of a lot of coverage guys, speed guys, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.240 guys that can get to place, guys that can cover ergo. 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.400 You look at you look at the linebacker Ray Kwon 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.200 McMillan and Kiko both of those guys, you know, good, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.960 good overall players. But their strength, their strength isn't in coverage. Now. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.479 I think maybe at one point you could probably said 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.440 about Kiko. I'm not sure if that's the case now, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.760 But you look at Jerome Baker, you look at Sam maguaffin. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.520 You know, those are two guys that can play the 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.080 run with their speed and and they're big enough and 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.000 strong enough to do it. But they've got skills to cover. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.720 They can cover it tight end, they can cover back 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.559 out of the backfield, they can play in the slot. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.200 They can do a lot of different things. So you know, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.280 I'm watching this team and and and I see you know, 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:35.159 Keiko's not there, and and Ray Kwan's not But from 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.200 just from a linebacker standpoint, you know this nine times, well, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.440 I would say eight out of ten snaps, this team's 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.080 only running a two linebackers. You know, you're not seeing 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.520 three linebackers. What's seeing four lineback And you have the 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.719 emergence of a guy like Nick de Luca. You can 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.440 play a couple of different spots. That is maybe you know, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.440 the good coachings have saying, hey, we we got a 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.240 guy that's a one year linebacker. We can mold him 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.800 into what we want to be and we project him 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.600 three years or two years, or eight games or twelve 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.280 games whatever they're that mindset is how their evaluation is 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.440 going on a player like that that if somebody went down, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.880 he could play three different spots for me and and 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.920 and not have the trepidation of going, well, he can't 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.840 do this, and he can't do that. He can do 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.320 a little bit of everything, which makes him fit into 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.240 this scheme a little bit. And you know, when I 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.240 look at a guy like Nick DeLuca, it and it's 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.080 kind of in a reverse situation. You know, we had 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.720 Rob Nickovic here. Rob was a good player, but he 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.119 was just you know, he just didn't fit the scheme here. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.800 And and so the Dolphins released him in the last 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.600 cut of his first year. New England picks him up 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.480 and he probably has another has an eight or nine 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.160 really productive years up in New England doing just what 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.840 you're talking about. Guy can do a number of different things. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.560 They used him to rush, he was good against the run, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.800 he was good on special teams, special teams. But and 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.240 and so you know that maybe the Nick DeLuca role 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.280 to be that third lineback that comes in and does 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.040 some different things for it. Because a little bit bigger, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.680 a little more stout and stuff like that. But this 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.880 is going to be it's gonna be Jerome Baker and 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:14.000 it's gonna be Samaguavins defense. That's their linebackers. Those guys 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.160 are gonna play almost every play and then they may 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.920 pepper in the line another linebacker here and then. But 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.280 but if you're starting to see this defense and and 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.760 and kind of scheme wise, where it's going, we've seen 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.000 it so far, and it's, uh, it's gonna be a 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.760 defense that I think it's gonna it's gonna morph as 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.040 the season goes on and they get to know more 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.440 about what the guys that remain on the roster come 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.560 come after Saturday, Uh, more that they can do. You know, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.360 you you may have some guys on defense that are 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.120 gonna play twenty or thirties specially. I don't know how 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.400 many special teams players there are a game, but twenty 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.000 five special teams plays and maybe five or six plays 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.160 on defense, right especially the way the fourth preseason games 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.720 and notoriously go it's three plays and out or you're punning. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.600 You know, it's three players and now back to you. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.199 You're back on the on the field if you're a 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.959 special teams guy, so you may get equal snaps early 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.240 in the game if there's not a team that gets 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.400 on a ten play, you know, a d R drive 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.680 or whatever whatever the case may be. So you're gonna 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.319 see a lot of different bodies. Even though there was 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.760 a lot of exit early exits off of this roster, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.760 you're still gonna see guys like a Trey Watson, you know, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.960 come in and play a lot of snaps. You're gonna 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.800 see a Darrell Hanks play a lot at linebacker, and 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.319 a lot of special teams So you'll and those defensive 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.760 backs that are the nickel guys or the dime guys, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.840 they're all gonna be in there playing a lot of snaps. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.719 The other thing to John is you look at it. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:42.679 I'm thinking here with this team undrafted free agents, you're 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.520 gonna have three start. Sam's gonna start, uh cal who 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:53.360 uh is gonna start? And then you may have Preston Williams. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.280 You know, if he if he if you can catch 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.600 the ball this week, if he can show gets back 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.960 and he needs to get the confidence from the coaches 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.840 back to day, I'm that guy that can go up 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.520 and catch balls, you know, he if he's not a starter, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.400 he's gonna play down. Yes, So those those are three guys, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.360 three undrafted free agents that could affect your starting lineup 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.440 and or give you a lot of plays. There may 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:19.280 be another five undrafted free agents that may not be 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.200 every down players, maybe special teams guys. But but I 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.440 don't know that I've been around or seen a team 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.640 John where there have been that many undrafted He's usually 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.920 one or two guys that kind of they sprinkle in, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.200 sprinkle can become like you know, Chase Allen, Mike Hall, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.199 those guys they came at his free agents, well look 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.640 at look at you know, Monterrey Hartage and Nick need Hum. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.880 Those guys are gonna play a lot of snaps in 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.320 the secondary for the Miami Dolphins in this game. They 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.839 played a lot of snaps in the preseason. They like 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.520 something about that quick twitch. And you add a you 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.360 know a couple of guys that might have been drafted 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.960 in a corner Armstrong. You know, those are the types 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.360 of guys that have really flashed on special teams, that 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.120 have played fairly solidly after the first preseason game maybe 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.360 and got their feet underneath them and got used to 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.720 the accustomed to the speed of the game. But you're 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.840 gonna see a lot of those guys this week, you know. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.640 And then uh, you know, and you had that we 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.840 talked about the undrafted free agents, and then you got 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.760 a rookie like Michael Dieter. You know, he's gonna be 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.040 a line up playing there. Christians gonna be lining up 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.360 there playing a lot of snaps for you. So it's 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.120 gonna be. It's gonna this this, this is gonna be 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.440 an interesting roster when all is said and done. And 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.360 let's not forget they can go out and pick up 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.000 some guys and I'm not I wouldn't be I would 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.680 be shocked if they didn't pick up three to four, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.680 maybe five guys off of the off the scrapp heat. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.719 And you come come to draft and you got to 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.320 remember too, on that defensive front, we we still have 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.160 in the background Robert Kim d Jay who who's having 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.679 seen rounding himself into shape so he can contribute somewhere 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.400 down the line. Because I think when you look at 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.800 a former first round draft choice and a guy that 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.839 is kind of burnt, burned his opportunity one spot he 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.800 might fit in down the road where he's a guy 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.840 that all of a sudden, he's another young guy that 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.280 you had to this roster that can contribute at a 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.439 high level. And you know, you roll the dice and 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.880 a guy like that because he's got such immense downside 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.640 and you can get if you can get him to 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.320 be the guy he should be both as a player 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.360 and both as a guy a person. Um, then you've 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.840 got you hit a home run, you know, And look, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.080 you know, Randy Moss was a tough guy to deal with. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.400 He went to New England and flourish that everybody flourished everywhere. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:34.720 He was got pretty much talent, a lot of time 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.880 stretching stretch. But anyway, messing Michael Dieter because I think 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.800 we're gonna get to get a chance to sit down 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.240 with with Michael, and uh, it'll be interesting to talk 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.800 to him just because what he's gone through. I mean, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.280 walking in while you're in and you're gonna get You're 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.439 you're gonna swim, but you're gonna you're gonna get a 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.400 lot of you're gonna be swimming. You're gonna be swimming 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.800 all season long. So the faster you learned. So him 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.440 and and the guy we didn't expect show Calhoun pops 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.880 up and and and and kind of lands that job. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.280 Opposite him on the other side, he has been doing 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.120 the same thing. And so he got another two young 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.960 guys on that offensive line that are gonna gonna play. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.000 You know, those guys are those guys are gonna play 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.199 every every snap. You know when you watch, you watch 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.960 him plays a tannem and you've got Daniel Kilgour in 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.560 the middle, uh, you know when we haven't seen him 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.640 with tonsil that much, which helps, right, And that's gonna 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.120 help out a lot too with Michael on that side. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.600 But you watch him play, and the mistakes were numerous 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.320 in preseason game number one, but then they fought back 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.679 a little bit and and they got they trimm those 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.600 you know, they corrected to some of those. Now, not 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.800 saying that they played perfect, but they trimmed their mistakes 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.680 and physics, they're getting better at both at both the 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.120 mental side of the game and the physical side of 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.360 the game each and every day. And but for an 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.880 offensive linement, you need to gotta play. I mean, I 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.839 remember walking, you know, early on you see him kind 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.319 of leaning one way or another duck and there you know, 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.719 their heads, dropping their heads, and you know, defensive line 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.280 would take advantage of yes of those things. And and 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.000 and now you see them a little more, a little 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.480 more squared up, keeping their heads up, and you know, 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.400 and they're look there. They played as many they played 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.320 more downs. Those two guys have played more downs I 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.320 would guess than anybody on this team since since since 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.480 the starting and you can throw in the inter squad 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.840 scrimmage or whatever else, and the practices against Tampa Bay, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.800 they've taken as much snaps as anybody on this football team. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.000 And they're going to continue to tell I wouldn't be 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.040 surprised if the game in New Orleans that they're they're 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.400 not there. They're they're not playing at least half of 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.840 that football game. And who knows, maybe more, you don't know. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.120 And and and I think that's the great unknown about 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.120 going into a preseason game number four, because it isn't 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.840 the last opportunity, not particularly for those two guys, but 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.760 for other guys on the roster to have a chance. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.720 I mean, you lose a guy like Jordan Mills, who 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.640 was a seven year veteran, you release him, who's the 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.800 next guy up? You know, you have to kind of 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.600 look through and see who's gonna get that playing time? 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.400 Is it Jones Smith? You know, is it Isaiah Prince 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.280 who has drafted? You know, are they going to get 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.520 the majority of those snaps at tackle to prove if 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.520 they can sink or swim or be counted on if 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.880 something were to happen in the regular season. Heck, those 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.000 guys might have to play and start a number of games. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.160 You're typically you go into this this fourth preseason game, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.280 and usually I could probably pick out and say, you 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.680 know what, there's maybe two jobs available going into this game. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.320 I don't know and that, but this one numbers, I 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.480 mean that that number, that number could be you could 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.120 you have number could be as high as four or 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:38.080 five guys that that right now maybe have one foot in, 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.160 one foot out. All they gonna do is make enough 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.440 players to get that other foot in the door or 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.720 not make plays and get that other foot out the door. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.200 But I think there'll be more more of these guys. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.200 There's more opportunity I think to find a roster spot 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.080 in this fourth game, John, than than I've seen in 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.880 a long long time. You know, It's funny, Bow because 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.160 with the early releases of some of the guys that 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.680 the Dolphins have let go. You know, those guys are 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.080 out on the streets, so there's a vacancy hanging, you know, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.280 when you look at the Miami Dolphins roster, it'll be 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.920 interesting to see who gets released around the league and 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.920 who the Miami Dolphins feel like they can take a 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.720 shot at too to add either depth or continue that 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.320 that young uh player that they see an upside to 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.800 that they kind of stick on the practice roster. That 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.320 that's at offensive tackle or defensive tackle, or at linebacker 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.880 or at you know, or at wide receiver, depending on 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.280 how the chips fall. To continue to stockpile this because 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.840 with the releases, you know, there's a lot of money, 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.240 and there's a lot of dead money, but there's a 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.600 lot of money that the Miami Dolphins are kind of 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.960 stockpiling as they look forward to the future of this 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.400 plan of trying to get this roster where it needs 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.160 to be not only this year, but in year two 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.640 and year three. For Brian Flores, well, if you're if 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:58.040 you're in this roster, rent don't buy that. If you're 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.760 thirty eight to forty, you know, a few can we 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.320 can we just stay in at the hotel and you're 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.920 putting the bill force we just rate stay there for 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.800 long because you know, and and and watching you know, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.359 watching Chris Greer over the years and watching these you know, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.520 they they're gonna cheern those last. If there's if there's 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.160 a guy that's one step better than someone else that's 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.440 thirty five to fifty three, then that guy's gone and 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.200 you're gonna pick up that guy that you think is 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.080 a little a little more juice and tank a little more, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.560 a little more something, a little more potential, or a 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:36.280 little younger or you know, I think all become factors 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.919 now in the body. And man, I'll tell you what 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.320 I want to I gotta get up to thirty. Man, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.439 I get up to the thirty because any even below that, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.760 it's boy, it's a slippery slope. It's gonna be a 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.600 slippery slope all year long. I believe it'll it'll be 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.840 a work in progress. You know, this is a team 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.239 that obviously is looking for talent, and they're gonna find it, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.840 you know, within the National Football League. When cut day comes, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.000 I think they may be there may be a few 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.800 additions you know that would surprises. This is the surprise 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.399 has left the roster and kind of go wow, t 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.160 J McDonald or Keem Spencer, Chase Allen. Now you're gonna 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.400 find some guys that you may not be so familiar 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.320 with their names, but they could play a role on 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.840 this team. Well, and you know, we've seen enough of 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.600 this defense to understand that it's gonna be a multi 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.399 look defense. I mean, well, you've you've seen just about 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.960 everything out of him. Three man line, four man lines, 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.240 shift to the strong side, shift to the weeks, standing 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.159 up one, one or two guys with their hand in 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.480 the dirt. You know this, you know, so you're gonna 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.719 see a lot of a lot of different things. And 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.199 so as guys get cut from other teams, Oh that guy, like, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.879 that guy fits our scheme better than this guy does. 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.000 Let's plug him in and do that. But uh, yeah, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.720 it's gonna be uh, this is gonna be an ongoing 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:56.240 um an ongoing process throughout the entire season. Always is, 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.080 but maybe a little more volatile with with this group 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.920 this year. But it's clear to see they want to 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:06.720 get younger. They want younger is cheaper one thing, and 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.640 and I think they want to get guys that are 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.399 younger that they feel are gonna be here for a 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.400 while that they can mold and fit into this particular 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.880 scheme and and where they've seen some skills that they 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.440 have that they know, I can use this guy, whether 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.240 it's for whether it's two or three situations a game 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.560 or ten or twelve situations a game where they can 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.679 plug that guy in and he's gonna do specifically the 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.040 one thing that they feel that he can take advantage 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.280 of of his skills in the course of that game. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.399 Not only is this organization building this team or building 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.520 this roster to try to be competitive in two thousand nineteen, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.080 but when you take a look back at the draft 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.400 choices the Miami Dolphins have had over the past two 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.200 or three seasons, a lot of these guys are playing 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.960 significant roles on this roster. They want to continue to 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.479 stockpile that. They want to continue to do that, and 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.880 not only in free agency, which will be probably very 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.480 active in and select to ven, but with that next 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.080 year's draft, whether it be at quarterback, whether it be 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.080 at linebacker, or whether it be a playmaking wide receiver, 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.320 whether it's a shutdown corner opposite X. If that doesn't 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.840 emerge this year and they have to do it by committee. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.760 I think those are the types of things that this 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.720 organization is trying to put themselves in a in a 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.199 position of strength, not only with dollars, not only with 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.560 money to go out and get resources, but with the 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:29.119 draft to continue to build on the Xavian Howard Laramie Tounsil's, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.720 you know, the Christian Wilkins. Uh those types of players 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.840 that are that are stars, that are guys that are 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.399 going to be good in this team, good for the 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.160 Miami Dolphins for not only this year, but years to come, 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.960 no doubt about it. It's funny we're talking about Nick 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:44.960 de Luca number fifty eight. It always reminds me of 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:46.560 someone because I used to wear fifty eight when I 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.119 was here, and I remember, I remember after my after 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:54.520 my uh after my after I got after I got released. 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.320 You know, I the equipment managers a friend of mine, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.760 and so the first year out he wouldn't give anyone 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:02.840 my name, no one war fifty eight. The next year 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.360 my my first year out football. And then the next 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.720 year they gave fifty eight. I think they gave it 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.080 to Barry krauss Side, Barry krouss Old Alabama. Remember after 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.520 and uh so I remember going to the game. I 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:15.879 went to the game with my wife and then and 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:17.479 she she sees a guy running over the fifty eight. 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.399 Oh oh, the guys were in your your number. I 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.040 thought they were. I thought they were going to retire 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.680 your number. I said, well, if he has ten good years, 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.320 maybe they will. So now my hope for getting my 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.680 number retired. Luca, come on and they can give me, 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.760 give me ten years years retired, then I can claim 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.639 I can claim they retired numbers up in the rafters. 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.760 Come on, Nick, Yeah, Hey, if pedigree means anything, he 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.640 had a hell of a college career at North Dakota. 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.080 I mean North Dakota is funny because I went to 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.480 school with a guy named Nick de Luca, and uh 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.760 but and he was as dumb as a fence post. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.920 And uh but he was one those guys saying, Nick, 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:02.960 I bet you can't run your head through that wall 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:07.600 right now. But I can't. I've got two left. That 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.400 kind of because if not fifty is gonna be, it's 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.760 still gonna be in play for for a long time. 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.560 Number sixty three is an in the the fact that Nick, Yeah, 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.320 here he comes, Michael del Michael Dieter coming in and Uh, 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.800 I'll tell here's a guy that, uh, you know, was 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:29.800 was thrown into the fire giving a challenge. And you know, 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.120 I remember him talking about and I'm sure we'll talk 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.639 about the first time he lined up and saw ninety 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:36.720 three in Dominican sue over. They're going, oh, that's the 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.280 Dominican sux. And I remember after practice someone asked me, said, 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:44.360 that guy's pretty good. Yeah he's big, he's pretty good. 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.720 But uh, but he's been in there and getting, like 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.639 you said, like we talked about earlier, getting better understanding 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.159 the game. And uh, and so here comes let's have 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:59.840 a little talk with Michael. Were here with Michael Dean, 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.080 and Michael has been not kind of a whirlwind for you. 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.199 You get drafted, you come in here and you go 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.399 to O T A S Mini camps and all that, 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.000 and you can write in the season and you kind 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.080 of got thrown into the fire here, didn't you a 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.720 little bit? Yeah, m but it's been fun. Um. The 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:16.920 best way to learn is by being thrown into the fire. 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.600 You're either gonna adapt or or your fall. So it's 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.119 been really cool to just get out there and and 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.520 and play it. It seems like nothing new to you 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.440 went to college. You went to Wisconsin, just got thrown 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.000 in right there and played verst Way every year, every down, 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.240 every snap while you were there. Right, yeah, pretty much. 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.840 Um I did red shirt my freshman year, but after 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.720 that it was it was all going. So yeah, same thing. 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.640 Just get in there and get playing. I mean that's 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.119 the easiest way to learn. Get out there and start 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.560 doing it. Hey, you're you're an Ohio kid. What got 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.720 you to the University of Wisconsin was at the tradition 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.560 of their their offensive line and what they've done. I 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.920 mean you kind of look at Wisconsin and everyone, you know, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:54.080 you talk about the running game and you talk about 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.919 the offensive line. When when you when when I think 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.960 about Wisconsin, Yeah, it was it was definitely the offense 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.200 of line tradition. I mean it was definitely my best 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.640 offer as well. But then when looking at the other 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.439 schools and what do they do offense wise, what do 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.440 they have for an offensive line coach? All that stuff, 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.360 Wisconsin was kind of a no brainer. If you want 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.520 to play on line, go there. You've been an All American, 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.040 you're a second team All American. You started all a 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:22.679 bunch of games at Wisconsin. UM so you obviously had 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.639 a lot of success in college. What's different about the 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.760 game you're in right now than the than the college game. 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.399 You know, we talked to receivers and running backs and 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.720 different things about it, but the offensive line a lot 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.880 more technical in a lot of ways, and even more 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.720 so I think when you step up to this level 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.840 from the college game. Definitely, I would say the biggest 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.440 difference has been mental stuff like the verbiage of the offense, 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:49.639 and then mentally how smart defensive linemen are in the NFL, 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.600 how smart linebackers are. They know what you're trying to 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.000 do and they know how they need to beat you. 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.320 And in college you don't see that. You see guys 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.879 just playing with effort pretty much and and using their 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.960 athleticism stuff to he plays here smart, well coached, I mean, 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.960 just well rounded players. So there's never a time where 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.359 it seems sort of easy. I mean, guys are too smart, 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.040 they play too hard. It's it's faster, definitely, But I 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.119 think the biggest thing is just how smart the guys 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.040 are that you're playing against. They know how they need 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:17.960 to beat you, and what you're good at and what 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.960 you're bad at. You come out of college you know, 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.399 you're a big guy, You're you're grown. But these are 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.159 grown men, grown men with families and grown men that 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.240 you know that that that are trying to earn a 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.760 living and uh and it's reflected in the way that 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.360 the game's played, I believe. Yeah, definitely, you can definitely 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.760 feel that there's people with kids. I mean cars they 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.040 have to pay off. I mean, it's a lot of 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.680 different It's not just you're going to school and playing 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.000 football at the same time. It's football, and that's it. 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.760 That's your job, that's your life, and that's your livelihood, 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.520 and it's it's cool. It's really fun to just it's 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.720 just kind of a different feeling. It's cool. It's just 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.080 straight football all the time. When you when you got drafted, 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:54.600 you and your family, I don't know where you were, 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:58.080 but what what was the what was the experience when 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.199 when you you finally you got to call all that 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.480 the Dolphins were drafting you, and you knew you're gonna 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:03.600 go int the Enna. You knew you're gonna go in 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.520 the NFL anyway, but you know where are you gonna go? 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.960 Where you're gonna end up? And coming from Wisconsin is 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.000 probably tough you know, giving up that that that freezing 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.000 cold weather and coming down to tropical South Floria super tough, 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.400 no snow anymore. That was the biggest thing right away, 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.040 as everyone was like, Oh, we can't wait to come 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.320 just have vacations at your house. Hey, why not. I'm 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.160 gonna be in Miami, so come on down. But I'll 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.000 miss the snow a little bit. Honestly. I like the 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.720 snow meal stuff like that. So in the off seasons 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.239 I'll definitely go back to ride snow bills and and 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.520 do all that. But then once I get cold, I'll 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.800 be able to come right back from a from a 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:41.679 from a on field. Um. I don't know what it 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.520 was like in Wisconsin during the summertime, but the humidity here, 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.080 the heat, the environment's got to be different. For how 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.600 difficult has it been for you to uh, to get 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.680 yourself acclimated to the while we stay down here. It's 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.160 it's you know that you go up to the cold 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.439 and you don't get tired, used to get cold. You 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.399 come down here and you get tired, and it's you 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.359 maybe you'll take your legs right out from under if 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.719 you're not prepared for definitely, And it was it's been 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.400 a work in progress. I'm still on there. I'm getting there. 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.520 It's just it's just getting used to being and he 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.959 it's kind of getting used to just being tired. Like 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.479 you gotta dig deep and and know that the elements 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.199 are kind of working against you, and digging deep and 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.320 just finding a way to still play with a good technique, 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.520 still play smart, even though you just feel the sun 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.320 beating on you. It's human. You can't really catch your breath. 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.600 It feels like you're just breathing in water some days. 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.200 But a lot different than being up in Wisconsin and 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.960 never got near it does here. Hey, So so here 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.520 you are. You were two weeks away from opening day. 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.920 Um and and if if all everything stays the same, 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.120 you're gonna be the guy who's lining up there on 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.960 on opening day to to start things off. Um. And 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.360 you've already been through another You've already had two offensive 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.000 line coaches. Pat Flaherty was your your first guy, and 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.520 then you know he, you know he he moved out 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.639 and and now you've got Googles and uh, two different 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.680 kind of guys. But you know, I always say I 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.879 every offensive you you've had off fensive line coaches your 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.680 whole life. They're all the same guy, aren't they. They 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.119 may look different one maybe tall, short, fat, skinny, whatever, 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.760 but they all seem to be the same guy. Are 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.879 you seeing the same thing with death? They all have 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.600 their little quirks and different ways to motivate you. Some 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.199 of them are more soft spoken and try to be 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.960 more encouraged to other guys are just intense. They tell 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:23.720 you what you're doing wrong, and they're blunt about it, 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.480 and it's easy and both of them work and it's 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.000 it's nice. But at the end of the day, they're 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.720 in a line coach, they're gonna be pretty intense. They're 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.360 gonna be stern. They're gonna make sure your techniques flawless, 0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.080 and they're gonna make sure they're gonna hold you accountable. 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.920 They're not gonna let anything slip. So you talked about terminology, 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.160 is it? And I've always been kind of it seems 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.120 like in the last I don't know, decade, maybe not 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.160 a decade, but you know, it used to me when 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.000 I was playing, it was the terminology. You know, it 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.400 was pretty quick. Short terminology gets you in and out 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.200 of the huddle. The verbiage a lot longer now, it's 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.600 now it seems like, you know, it's like a paragraph 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.960 when when when these guys are calling plays, is that 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.200 different than than what you had throughout your college career. Yeah, 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.680 the play calls are definitely longer. And then I would 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.880 say the biggest thing is when we get to the line, 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.880 there's so many different things like versus like I want this, this, this, 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.720 and this, just like I want that, that, this and this, 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:20.200 Whereas in college it was this play, you're gonna run 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.240 this verse any look, just make it work. Now it's 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:24.800 we have this for that and then we have this 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.360 for that, and that's good because we need that. It's 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.520 the NFL. You need to be able to make adjustments. 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.160 And if you can't think and and dissect all that, 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.280 then you don't have to go to school. All you 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.360 have to do is play football so you can learn it. 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.520 But I think the funny thing too, is is as 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.240 a playing a defensive linement in this league and you 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.600 play an offensive line, you know some of those changes 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.240 come like almost almost as the ball is being snapped right, 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.120 someone moves the last last second. Someone moves all of 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.480 a sudden all the time, and you can't say anything. 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:53.840 You've got to go. You've got to learn to adapt. 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.640 And I think for a young offensive linement where that 0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.040 happens a lot, that's got to be one of the 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.000 difficult things for it is you kind of locked in, 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:03.560 like you said in college. You can look like, this 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.800 guy's my guy. I gotta hook him. He's on my 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.840 outside shoulder. Okay, maybe I gotta get a little deeper 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.680 and get it. You gotta figure it out where. But 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.800 now it's this guy is here, and now someone moved here, 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.760 and then a linebacker came up in here, and all 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.360 this is happening within two seconds of the time they're 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.600 snapping the football. And you gotta make those decisions some 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.280 a lot of times on the move without even being 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.160 able to communicate it. So you gotta make sure. You 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.080 gotta trust that the guys around you see it. No 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.680 it can think of it and boom and it's it's 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.640 beautiful and it all comes in like that. But it's 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.120 a mess when it doesn't feel like you. You you know, 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.320 it's pretty unique here, Uh, they got you and Shaq 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.440 Calhoun looks like you guys are both gonna be two 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.320 rookie starting uh and and it's pretty unusual in the NFL. 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.720 But I think the thing that help has helped you out, 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.640 I would assume has been the fact that they made 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.960 this decision early on. And you guys, between the two 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:52.480 of you, man, you guys have gotten a lot of 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.560 snaps at practice. You've got a lot of snaps up 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.440 in Tampa during the UH, during the practices with with 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.080 the Bucks, and then in the preseason games, you've been 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.120 getting plenty of snaps. So you you've put probably uh, 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.840 compared to your college you you probably put half of 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.440 a college season in already in in in snaps since 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.720 you've been here. Ye, And it's it's been good. I mean, 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.760 being a rookie and me and Shock like we need 0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.719 the reps. Just every rep is more confidence. Even if 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.680 you lose. It's why I lose, what I do wrong, 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.800 fix it. So it's nice that, like you said, made 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.920 a decision early, get a lot of reps. So just 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:32.560 every rep confidence, getting smarter mentally, thinking faster, And for 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.840 both of us it's been huge and we're getting better. 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.560 But say a long way Togo, you've got some veterans 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.960 in the offensive line, but I would assume that after 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.080 almost every play you and Shot kind of get together 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.800 and and talk Hey what do you say? Hey? What 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.440 this guy? Gee? You wouldn't believe with this guy? Did 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.680 you gotta you know, I mean, you gotta compare notes 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.360 because you're both at that same same spot in your 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.800 career and things that other offensive linemen that have been 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.560 playing for a three, four or five ten years for 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.479 them that may not seem unusual. But you guys like 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.720 did you see this? You know? I mean, so I'm 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.560 assuming you're having a lot of those conversations post play 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.760 when you're on the sideline and all those those those areas. Definitely, 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.120 I'll just lean over Shack and big what do you have? 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.000 Blah blah blah. And then what's nice is since I'm 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.360 doing that, I can get Jesse will hear it and 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.640 go oh that? And then Dan right, oh, no, you 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.280 guys are both wrong because Dan just runs the show back. No, 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.160 we're gonna do this this and it's nice. So any 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.440 concerns that we bounce off on another, if it's not right, 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.040 the guys around us, they're gonna get us right. And 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.520 you know, it's it's this, This offensive line is it's 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:36.040 it's gonna be it's it's it's important to every football team. 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.080 It's very as important as this team as it is 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.960 any other team in the league. And yet you guys 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.400 have gotten reps, but you really haven't had that many, 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.080 that many opportunities to be with You're starting five with 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.840 Laramie in there, with whether it's gonna be Jesse Davis 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.520 on the outside or or whoever, whoever's gonna be that guy. 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.320 You kind of know that you got from from from 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.560 that right guard over to the left. You know what 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.000 your situation. Then where they put it that right tackle, 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.480 I'm assume it's gonna be Jesse Davis. Um, you haven't 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.400 had that much time to work with those guys in 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.520 game days, in game situations as you will once the 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.480 season starts. Is that is that hurt you guys a 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.440 little bit? Um? I don't think so, just because we've 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.760 gotten a ton of work and practice, and we got 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.160 a lot of work and practice at Tampa, which they 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:29.200 were practices, but it's very different, different intensity. Name it. 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.880 That was my that was my next thing. You know, 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:34.680 you know you're in the NFL and you're getting here 0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.040 and then all of a sudden, you you know, the 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.320 first that first practice, at first play, you put your 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.320 hand in the dirt and there's there's ninety three sitting 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.360 acrossing and Dominican sue. That was weird. It was it 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.600 was like being a little bit star struck. Yeah, she's 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.720 just growing up watching the guys dominating. Then you're like, no, 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.000 I gotta not get dominated by. So it was it 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.960 was cool. It was a little scary, but it was 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.680 super cool. Are you a guy that looks at look 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.280 at what when I came out? When I came out 0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.880 of college, you know, I I I remember playing I 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.800 remember playing my first Monday night game. We're playing the 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.600 Buffalo Bills and one of the first players they had 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.000 a full back. I figured it was named John Brockington 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.719 or whatever, big full back that and and I was 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.560 gonna cover. I have to cover him, and um saying, no, 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.640 I got this guy. Guys like two sixty pounds, I 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.879 can run with him. And then they started calling plays 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.160 and all of a sudden they switched the backs. Now 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.520 I got O. J. Simpson and he runs at Larro 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.319 takeoff down the field and I'm trying to chase him 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.719 down the field and I'm trying to chase them, going, damn, 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.359 this is O Jason. You know, there were other piece 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.200 of people have chased O. J. Simpsons since then, but 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.680 I mean in that circumstance. But but I always a 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:38.080 guy that kind of remembered those guys and was always 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.040 not starstruck, but going wow, this is you know, I'm 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.560 playing as Wow, this is just a cool moment. Yeah, yeah, 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.880 it is amazing. I walked into stadiums. I mean, you know, 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.200 walking into a new stadium, you know, you're like, wow, 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.760 this is just pretty cool. You know, it's super cool 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.560 different stadiums, getting a field for how different fan bases 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.960 that it's just to experiences. Hey, googse we talked about 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.719 offensive line coaches, and Googs is a guy that he's 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.160 one of those. He's a little bit of everything. He's 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.200 a screamer, he's a yeller, he's a he's a he's 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.680 a demanding coach. But he also has that that that 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:14.359 little little nap to too that you know that he's 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.440 doing it, he's doing the best for you, he's invested 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.799 in you and and knowing that that's a betterment for 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:22.759 the team. So no matter, he's kind of like your 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.840 dad sometimes where your dad has to discipline you, but 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.239 you know, when when push comes to shove, you know 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.799 he loves you, you know exactly. Yep, you never want 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.200 to coach. This just gonna kind of be mean and 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.000 not really coach. I've had experiences a long time ago 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.400 where it was just yell, yell, yell, not a lot 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.279 of coaching. It was just like they thought the way 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.200 to make an offensive linement was just be mean, whereas 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.680 the Googs, it's both. You know, obviously, if you're wrong, 0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.000 it's didn't get your right. He's gonna let you know 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:50.840 you're wrong. But he's also gonna tell you what he 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.560 wants from you, you know, watching on film, you talk 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.319 about it, and if you still can't get it right, 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.720 it's only gonna get worse for you because he's taken 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.000 time to fix it for you. So if you don't, 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.360 he's gonna just keep getting a little more angry angry, 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.759 and or later you'll get it right. So September eight, 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.279 Baltimore Ravens come to town Opening Day. You folks gonna 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.160 be in the in the stands. They will, Yeah, they'll 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:12.880 be here. They've got to be pretty excited about that. 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.799 I would imagine. YEA. They came down for the first 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.200 Pieceason game against Atlanta, which was cool, but to get 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.400 him for a regular cheas and yeah, they'll they'll love that. 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.960 So I yeah that that's gonna be good night, and 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:24.799 I'm looking for I'm sure you're gonna you're looking forward 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.960 to and that'll be a great day for you. And 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:28.759 I gotta do this. You know, you're a first. We've 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.799 had a lot of people come in here and and 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.279 do the audible for us, but you hold the honor. 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.280 Is the first guy ever to come in in full pads. 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.759 So you know, so you got that, you got no 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.040 one can take no one could take that away from 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.799 I thought I was gonna have to go have someone 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.080 on one pass rushing quick home. Ye quick here you 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.759 got gonna be like, oh you can be like oh 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.560 Ricky Williams. But Ricky Williams get interviews with the Sounding 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.759 Off and Michael wish you the best luck, Mats to 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.640 stay healthy out here. And I know you've been working 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.040 your ass off and you can see the improvement day 0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.120 to day, and uh, you know, there's there's gonna be, 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:00.680 there's gonna be. It's gonna be a good trip for 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.719 you here in the NFL with the Miami Dolphins, and uh, 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.439 enjoy the ride, but go out and and kick some asks. 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:14.560 Well do I appreciate it? Thank you? Alright, So Michael Dieter, 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.840 guys working hard. You got a great attitude, great attitude, 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:19.960 I like, I said, first first guy to come and 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.879 walk in here in full pads, he said, He said, 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.319 if I don't knowing that, I brought my help and 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:28.319 warned that too. I got a mental picture now never 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.200 get out just seeing him. You know, you're a big man, right, 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.760 he's sitting he's sitting in his chair with his shoulder pads, 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.160 and he looked like he was seven. Was fine, He 0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.279 was fine when he sat down, but trying to get 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.440 up with his legs under here. And I thought we 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:42.839 were gonna have to move the whole table to get 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.200 him out, get him out because he had the cleats, 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.920 were bringing in the carpet to the carpet here. But 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.200 you know, hey, he's one of those guys. It's uh, 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.560 you know, and this is gonna take me to the 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.080 next The next thought is which is always next thought, 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.320 but I always the first thought around here and out 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.160 is that quarterback and and whether it's you know, whether 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:10.319 it's it's it's gonna be Jake, whether it's going to 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.680 be Josh, whether it's gonna be Ryan. Um, they're gonna 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:19.640 depend on Michael Dieter and Shot Calhoun and all those 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.799 guys up front to carry the load and and and 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:27.040 they've got to grow up fast. Um, the quarterback competition 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:31.400 is still on, don't. I have no idea, John, no idea. 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.960 What's gonna go on Thursday night? As far as started, 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.320 If I was to guess it, I would guess it 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:42.840 Josh starts. Rosen starts and gets maybe maybe maybe the 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.200 equivalent of first preseason game series maybe two gets out 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.040 and then uh, unless Jake Ruddock to Ruddock take the 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.000 take the reins the rest of the way. That's what 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.360 I would probably be along the exact same lines. But 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.400 I think we're gonna see a lot of Jake rudoc 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.759 and and that's a good thing. He needs to play 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.279 and needs to play. He's played well, he's done a 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.359 good job. But I do think that, you know, with 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.719 the uncertainty with Ryan Fitzpatrick and him not feeling so good, 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.600 you know, throughout the week, I would think that Josh 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:16.160 Rosen would play, might start, uh, maybe play a couple 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.080 series and depending on how many the play count, uh, 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.920 how it's going up front because they're still you know, 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.600 the most important game is September eighth, and how they're 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.680 going to decide to roll with the starting quarterback or 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.359 maybe it's a maybe it's a blended situation to start 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:34.160 the season. I'm not quite sure that I think everything's 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.279 on the table right now because there hasn't been one 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:42.120 guy that, you know, early on, I thought Ryan Fitzpatrick position. 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.319 I thought Ryan Fitzpatrick with his experience, the way he's 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.520 through the football, the way he's played at practice and 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.439 in and in the you know, the scrimmages against Tampa Bay, 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.399 I thought he had a little bit of an upper hand. 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.120 But then Josh Rosen comes along, and he plays better. 0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.040 Every time you see more of him, plays a little 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.319 bit better. Uh, you love the arms strang Do you 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.880 love the escapability that he showed out on the football field. 0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.360 You like the demeanor. The more more you know, the 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.840 more confidence, the more success he's had, the more confident 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.120 he's looked like, not only in the huddle, but out 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.040 on the field, eluding pressure, making plays on the run, 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.879 making plays from the pocket. So I think I think 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.920 the decision is still a question mark for this coaching staff, 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.960 and I don't think Thursday night is going to determine 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.640 whether he's gonna start or not. I think that coach 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:30.200 flora is I think they have an idea. Yeah, I 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.480 think unless he comes out and just lights it up. 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.600 But I think that decision. I think that decision is 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.719 made right now, UM, and we'll we'll see what it is. 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.439 But you know, Josh, the one thing about Josh that 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:46.200 that really impressed me in Game three, UM, was just 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.160 that willingness to throw the ball downfield. Willing to drive 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.319 the ball down the field. You know, we we you know, 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.880 we we watched Fitzpatrick. You know those little kind of 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.759 side you know, dump offs here and there, through the 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.239 one down the field to sect and we need to 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.480 see that. And Mike needed to get that for his 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.480 own had a couple that that that really helped out there. 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.759 But I just feel like Josh is a little more 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.640 of that downfield guy guys willing to throw the ball 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.040 deep down field. You know, there's a couple of times 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.080 and out. I think there was one out pattern that 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:19.040 that fits. Ball didn't get there. And so your question 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.759 his age, your question his arms is, you know, how 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.799 did you give you that age? And and oh jeez, 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.799 that ball fellows short. You're thinking, oh, does he still 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.479 have the strength and get that ball? Can you still 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.239 throw that out when you need to throw that out 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.320 and get it there in a hurry? Uh, those questions arise. 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.240 I don't think you see those questions with Josh Rosan. 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.760 Now you may see questions about decision making, decision making 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.160 of why did you throw that ball there? Why didn't 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.120 you go somewhere else? But I don't think it's the 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.640 I don't think that his issue at this point is 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.000 I need he's got the strength and ability make every 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.879 throw that you need to throw during it. We see 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:54.960 him do it on the run, We've seen it, throw 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.040 it back across himself. We've seen a number of things 0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.000 from him that legion believe he can get the ball 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:01.759 where he needs to get it. It's whether he makes 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.440 the right choice, whether he eludes or makes them moves 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.000 in the pocket enough, because you know, you know, certainly 0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.800 with this offensive line's gonna important for that guy to 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.960 be able to maneuver his way in and out of 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.719 that pocket in order to get the ball down. If 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:19.400 it were me, if if I had the ultimate decision 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.279 on who I would play, I don't know this. This 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.360 goes against the grain of the National Football League and 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.560 what you've seen franchise guys, because we're not sure right 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.960 now what we have with Josh rose And I don't 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.040 think I mean, we have an idea, we have an inkling. 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.560 We've seen enough to know he's a good quarterback. He's 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.720 a quality guy. He's had a good head on his shoulders. 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.120 He he looks like he can get the job done. 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.360 But I think i'd have both of those guys like 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.480 up and ready to go. I might name a starter, 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:47.800 but I would say, don't take it as a slight 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.319 if if we start Brian Fitzpatrick this week and Josh 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.640 Rosen the next week, because I just think that whatever 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.040 is going to be the best scenario for Brian Flores 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.600 to make a decision to win that particular killer game 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.920 on that week, I think he's gonna roll the dice 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.200 and I don't think you gotta get your emotion out. 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.080 So so let's talk about that a little bit, John, 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.680 and will you be in a quarterback Let's talk about 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:14.000 the situation where Okay, let's let's assume that Ryan Fitzpatrick 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.319 is your starter against the Baltimore Ravens. When you open 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:21.560 up the season September eight, he comes out four series, 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:25.680 three and out, no product, product productivity. Are we in 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.000 a situation where it might be, hey, Josh, get in there. 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.759 It may be a game by game may be I don't. 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.839 Josh starts and it's the same and he puts two 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.480 gets two balls picked off right by throwing him in 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:42.320 the wrong place. It maybe I think you got a 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.200 clean slate every week if it were me, Because one 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.080 going back to you gotta give yourself, You gotta give 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.080 this team. They've you know, every team in the NFL 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.279 works so hard to get to that first game and 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.520 to try to win and get on a roll, try 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.600 to get that positive vibe going for your season. That's 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.080 why I think that you have to kind of throw 0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.800 all the old kind of you know, things that you 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.120 believe were true about the quarterback position on this particular 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.359 team out the window. How can I win this game? 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.640 Is it? Is it by sticking with this guy that 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.480 maybe went three series of three plays and out or 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.440 didn't get any points in the first half. Does that 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.520 give me the best chance to win in the second half? 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.560 If it does, your role with him, But if if 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.759 your gut tells you it doesn't you can't stick to Well, 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.719 I gave this guy the job, he won the job, 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.320 Let's stick with him no matter who that guy is. 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.680 I think that. I think all options are on the 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.000 table for the Miami Dolphins this year. And I wouldn't 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:36.920 be surprised to see both of you guys play in 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.319 one game. So would you being a quarterback, John, how 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:44.200 do you manage that? Internally? For you? Ignoring that? And look, 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.080 if you're the if you're the guys started the starter 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.640 and you kind of know that, well, you're you're going 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.200 in with some extra out of pressure. You got the 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.040 pressure of lining up against the Baltimore Ravens, playing against 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.279 these guys doing this and that, and also in the 0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.160 back of your mind as well, Ship, if I don't 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.400 if I'm not productive, I'm gonna be sitting over the sidelines. 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.640 You know what They've done that or the same thing 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.880 on the other side. If you're the kid in the sidelines, 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.879 you're going, jeez, I thought I did enough to be out. 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:13.680 You know, it's a you gotta have to two guys 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.759 that are very strong willed and confident, I think to 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:19.880 be able to go through that. I think that the 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.120 one thing that gets you around that is that Ryan 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:28.200 Fitzpatrick hasn't been the guy for X amount of seasons 0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.160 in the National Football League to say like, this is 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.080 my team. I played eight years in Buffalo. I was 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.640 a starter, we had two playoff runs. You know, I 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.400 played X amount of games with this franchise and we 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.359 had you know, great, great teams. And you know, he's 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.440 been a guy that's kind of been that filler, that 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.920 gap stop. You know, you got to come in and 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.160 give you a spark. So I think that allows you 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.520 your mindset and say, hey, I'm open for anything. I 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.879 played every role you can imagine in the National Football League. 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.479 I just want to win. Well, I along that line, 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.160 just just looking at these guys and being around him 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.680 and and looking at age and looking at circumstance. I 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:09.000 think Fitzpatrick would manage that better than Josh Rosen, because 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.200 Josh Rosen, to me, is still a little fragile from 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.080 the standpoint. I was a top ten draft choice. Then boom, 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.840 I get traded after one season. Never happened before he 0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.880 gets moved, and then he's here in a battle for 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.080 his life. And so in the back of his mind 0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:23.000 there's got to be a little bit of that. You know, 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.360 I can't you know where if fits is having a 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:32.160 bad game, gets taken out, he's done that, not happy 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.719 with it, Piste off of himself, but he but he 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.160 has mad at himself. I thought about it, not about 0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.480 the coaches, not me not getting the job done for 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.480 the team. Let me fight back and get it, whereas 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.359 Rosen maybe a little more ship. You know here, here's 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:50.480 another step of you know, the reality sin and you 0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.360 know what, I think that's the way that Brian Flores 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.120 runs this team. If Josh Rosen throws a pick at 0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.359 practice or or fumbles a quarterback center exchange, he's out 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.000 to the wall. Touch the wall. You're out now for 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.120 you lost your opportunity. Next guy's up. So I think 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.800 they've been kind of getting those guys used to that scenario. 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:12.000 No matter what position you're at, make a mistake, next 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.120 guy's up, You're you're in and you're gonna get another chance. 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.880 But at quarterback, I just think that the mentality this 0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.080 year is is going to be different than anything you 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.640 know that that you've seen in the National Football League, 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.360 because not a lot of teams are in a position 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.800 where you know, You're not gonna do that to Ben Roethlisberg. 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.919 You're not gonna do that to you know, Philip Rivers. 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.160 You're not gonna do that to guys that have established, 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.239 guys that are potential Hall of Famers, guys that have 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.080 won in this league for years. But when you look 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.919 around the league, gosh, maybe some of the teams should 0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.640 have taken that approach because you're trying to do everything 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.200 in your power to win this game today. And I 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.479 think that's why the practices have gone the way they've gone. 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.800 I think that's the way that the coaches have coached 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.520 them hard. This This team has to have some some 0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.680 tough love at certain points, and I think you're gonna 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.719 see that throughout the year. Ultimately, though, the the the 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:04.239 answer that you need to find is is with Josh 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:08.360 Rosen and and and and and there's it's there's one question. 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.600 Is he the guy or isn't he the guy? Both 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.200 of them are important. This is this is important to 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.560 know if he is the guy that we're gonna bank 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.600 the franchise on, because all of a sudden, he he's 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.640 playing like the guy who was the top ten draft pick. 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.360 He's playing like a guy that you know, like Sam Donald. 0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.279 I'll give you a good look at Sam Donald. Last year, 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:31.080 Sam Donald, you know, had a miserable year from a 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:35.200 statistics standpoint, but we watched him played two times and 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.080 no doubt in my mind that this guy is gonna 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.239 be the guy. He's a franchise guy. And look what 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.120 he's doing this year. He's coming out and he's he's 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.920 playing that way, you know, and so you know, you 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.680 need to know at the end of this season, clearly 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:53.480 if Josh Rosen is the guy, that's his important is 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.200 knowing is he not the guy? You know? The one 0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.080 thing that the one thing that that concerns me is 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.400 it is to have a situation where you come to 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.680 the end of the season and you've won I don't 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:08.160 care two, three, six, eight, whatever many games you've won, 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:10.640 and you're going, well, geez, we got this guy Rosen. 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.320 We think he's a guy born on a sure and 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.839 you've got you know, Herbert, you got the kid from 0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.360 You've got to George. You've got the kid from George. 0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.560 You've got five or five guys lined up there. I 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.080 think there are four or five guys that any one 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.800 of them could be franchise guys. That you're gonna have 0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.359 a choice. You're gonna especially if you on the lower 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.040 end of the wind call him, You're gonna have an 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.319 opportunity to grab one of those guys. And you've got 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.600 to know do we need to do it or can 0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:40.960 we go elsewhere because we got our quarterback? That question, 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:45.880 to me is the biggest question of any on this 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.319 in this franchise right now. I think I've seen enough 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.160 of Josh Rosen to to know that he's a quality 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.440 quarterback that has plenty of arm strength, has plenty of 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:59.000 elusiveness within the pocket, has plenty of smarts at the 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.480 position that he can be on a roster for a 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:03.640 long time. Now, can he be the guy that leads 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:05.480 you to the Super Bowl? Can he be a guy 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:12.799 that consistently wins? Okay? Right, okay right? And the hard 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.040 part about the evaluation is going to be playing on 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:21.640 a team that doesn't isn't quite ready to challenge for X, 0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.640 y Z whatever that whatever your goals are, ultimately it's 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.360 a super Bowl's to win a Super Bowl? Is this 0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.000 team gonna be ready with him in two years to 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:33.000 do that? Is he is he good enough to to 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.560 play on a team where he can make guys elevate. 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:39.480 He can bring everybody's game up, and that team that's 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:41.520 a three or four win team now wins six seven, 0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:44.040 eight games, and you go, wow, it was because of 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:45.880 his play. You've got to have the feeling that the 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.200 Jets have with Donald right now then, you know, than 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.680 with what we got right now. Yeah, at the end, 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.359 you guts to say that guy with a lot enough 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.560 not for him to know that that he can get 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:57.120 the job done. We just need to put the pieces 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.960 around him now right. I just hope that the life 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.480 it comes on a little bit sooner. Uh. That gives 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.200 you a clear indication that a lot of heads are 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:07.799 nodding up and down instead of ear to ear going. 0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:09.359 I don't know. One of the things that I've said 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.439 it a couple of times since since last week's game. 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.279 You know, you're looking for that aha moment. You're looking 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.160 at wow that wow did you see that? And if 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:18.719 you don't know that, I don't know that I saw 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.759 the wow did you see that? But I did see 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:23.480 those moments go oh wow, that's a nice that's a 0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.000 nice little you know, deep ball, that's a nice You're 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.439 getting out of pocket running a little bit buying some time. 0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:33.200 All those things. You saw some really good things from him. 0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.960 Some oh that was nice out of him. You just 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.360 need to see that. Man, that's a throw that not 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:40.960 very many guys can make. That's a that's a guy 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.880 that that's a guy's confident that he squeezed the ball somewhere. 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.839 We probably shouldn't have thrown it in there, but had 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.359 enough confidence in getting it there. I saw one throw 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.880 in that game against Jacksonville where he was rolling to 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.600 his left, he turned his hips and shoulders, and he 0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.000 threw a rocket down, you know, close in front of 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.759 in front of the offense bench. For me, I go, 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.480 I I didn't. I wasn't talking to anybody at the time, 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.520 but if I was, I would have said, oh man, 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:10.800 that was that. That was an elite throw. That was 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:13.640 an elite throw. Not many guys can do that or 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:15.800 have the have the body control, in the arm strength 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.560 and the accuracy to make that throw. Yeah, And so 0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.560 it's just for him, it's just you gotta see more 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.000 of those. But that look, that's gonna be an ongoing thing, 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.160 and I think that's in every week. I just I 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:30.120 just don't know why I feel that way, because for me, 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.480 going into this week, I'm linking, I'm thinking about the 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.719 regular season. I'm going, Man, I don't even know if 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.400 it really matters who starts, who starts the game and 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.120 who the one thing we're the one thing we're not 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.160 talking about John because we're not talking about coach Flores. 0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:47.360 And he's still he still wants to win football game. Absolutely, 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.719 Look you, he's gonna look at you. You can't be 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.880 a head coach in this league and look at this 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.440 roster and say, hey, we got a chance to get 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.759 to the super Bowl. Because let's be frank, it's it's 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.799 not it's too young, it's not mature enough. You don't 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:04.320 that you know enough playmakers to say that. Um, but 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.920 he still wants to win games. And so there in 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.520 kind of goes more to what you're talking about. Well, 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.600 you know you can if if you throw Josh Rosen 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.640 to the Wolves and he just is struggling all year 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.359 long and you never take him out, he never gets better. 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.160 You know what's this? What's this bullshit about you wanted 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:23.399 to win games? But if you put if you put 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:25.680 fits in there, I don't like we've seen you put 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.000 Rosen in and then maybe next week you pull him 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.320 out because he's not. Now, you see a coach that 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.759 is trying to win within what he's got, So he's 0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.320 he's he's telling his team that, hey, we're in it 0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.080 to win it, and and I'm doing every move that 0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:43.160 I can to make it to this particular game right now. 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:45.160 Whatever it takes to me for me to do that, 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.879 and if that means pulling my quarterback and putting another 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.280 guy in the third quarter because he hasn't been productive, 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:52.160 That's what I'm gonna do if it gives us a 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.040 chance to win. Exactly. I think everything is on the 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.080 table with this roster. I think especially at the position 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.680 of quarterback. I just think that it's it's gonna go 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.480 against the grain of of of the normal thinking. And 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.799 he has so far with the moves he's made. That's 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:09.440 why I think it lends to even though that position 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.680 is a little bit different. With the psyche, I think 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:14.759 you gotta have a frank conversation, say, guys, get over 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.600 yourself right now, because you know, Fitsy, you're going into 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:19.879 your fifteenth year, Josh, you're going into your second year. 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.319 I want to win games. I want to be here 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:25.200 for a long long time, Okay, And I hope that 0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:26.919 the light bulb goes off for one of you guys 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.080 and you start all sixteen games. We're in the playoffs 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.400 and and things are going great. But I'm gonna do 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.520 I'm not thinking that far ahead. I'm thinking about the 0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.600 Baltimore Ravens. I'm thinking about how we're gonna win this game. 0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:39.480 Both guys. You guys, be ready, because I don't know 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:42.279 how it's gonna go. But you're both up, and you're 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.640 gonna start, and I hope you finish. You know, it's 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.640 funny because the conversations I've had with people as well, 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:48.040 if he starts that guy who means he doesn't care 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:51.320 about winning games something, which I I you know, this 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:58.920 whole this whole concept of tanking. Um, yeah, basketball, but 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.759 I just don't, Uh, I just don't. I don't know how. 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:05.000 I don't know how you do it. Because quite frankly, 0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:07.040 you're not gonna be safe in this league if you're 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.720 not going out and and playing at your maximum effort, 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:13.440 because you're doing you're doing a disservice to you know that, 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.400 and you're probably doing a disservice to you. But be 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.880 blown up by somebody and you'll be sitting the outside 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.319 looking at you know, so they're doing everything they can 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.160 uh to get this team ready because it is I mean, 0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:27.239 when you take a look at the schedule, you better 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:29.759 be good early. You better not beat yourself early to 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.680 have a chance to win. And you know, those first 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:33.799 four games. So as we as we as we wrap 0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.640 up this preseason, it's been, it's been you know a 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.279 lot of some good things, some bad things. It's it's 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.640 for me, it's been as much watching coaches as watching players, 0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:45.200 because you want to see how these coaches are gonna coach. 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.319 And and I like to discipline. I've said it if 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:49.439 I like I like the way they coach the team. 0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:52.560 I like the fact that any coach on that field 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:56.120 doesn't like something, you can stop practice and and and 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:58.680 and have that conversation with the guy and hey, let's 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:00.920 run it again until we get it right. You know, 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:03.880 we've seen that enough. I like the fact that the 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.560 there there's an emphasis on doing the things that you 0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:12.200 can control, not no pre snap penalties, all these types 0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:15.479 of things, mental errors, you know, showing up on time, 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.120 doing all those things that are easy. I like that. 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.880 I like the fact that the coaches are tough on 0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:23.399 their players, I like, they're pulling guys out. And look, 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.320 I've seen guys in time out. I've seen guys in 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:28.359 you know, and go stand over there and I'll tell 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.319 you when you can come back, and no move until 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:31.719 I tell you to come in. I've seen all that 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:34.960 stuff out here, and and all that is going back 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.000 to old school and and and toughening up a young 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:41.920 football team so they're ready for six team major battles. 0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:46.040 Is the season rolls are he set an expectation for 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.040 this football team that you know, from being on time 0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.120 for meetings, being accountable for what you're wearing at practice, 0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:55.320 being accountable for your assignments. You know, from from A 0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.759 to Z, and it's every day it is. It is 0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:01.880 on that meter is pinned because the urgency to do 0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.160 it right and to get out of your own way 0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:06.800 to so this organization has a chance to win on 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.120 a consistent basis. Boy, this staff has has done it 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:12.160 from day one. And they're not put keeping their you know, 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.359 they're keeping their foot on the look they're they're they're 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:19.400 certainly not adverse to pointing a finger at some guy 0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.800 and saying you gotta get better. I mean, look at you, 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:23.560 Look at there, you look no further than last week 0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:25.880 with Kenny Stills. You know, you talk about the jay 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.880 Z songs and I couldn't tell you what they gotta 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.400 play twenty jay Z song and I wouldn't have known, 0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.880 you know, what they were. But but Anyway pulls him 0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.840 out and says, hey, you know, this is about this 0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:41.520 is about you, you focusing on what's important, not that 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:45.320 other noise, including these songs and what people are saying, 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:47.280 and what you've got going on with your own and 0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:51.080 this and that. It's about wrapping your head around what's important, 0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:53.720 and that's doing your best job. Because if you don't 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.600 wrap your head around it, and you don't, you don't 0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.480 show that you you you belong to be here, and 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.400 then then you know, we'll move on and we'll find 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:05.160 somebody else that wants to bring that attitude with them. 0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:07.439 I don't care how many touchdowns you've scored. I don't 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.080 care how long you've been in the league. I don't 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.280 care what you've done. If you're not willing to commit 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.520 acent then and you gotta you're you're gonna you're gonna 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:19.400 give to football and you're gonna spend doing that other 0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:21.120 stuff that's not good enough for us. And you know 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.560 what coach Flores said this week and one of the 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.880 pressers that he had with the with the local media, 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.600 he said, you know what, I've had guys that we've 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.040 had a release that have done everything I've asked. They've 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:35.160 they've studied film, they were accountable, being on time, they 0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:38.360 were giving maximum effort. It just didn't work out, and 0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.200 I had to have hard conversations, you know, with each 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.240 and every one of those guys that thank you for 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:45.640 your effort, thank you for your passion, thank you for everything. 0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:47.960 But it just it's just not gonna happen this year 0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.880 on this roster. And and sometimes it works out that way. 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.240 So you hope that the guys that are hanging around, 0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:55.560 you know, give you that every day that gives you 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.280 a chance to have a team that's that's worth going 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:00.360 out on a Sunday saying, hey, I got a chance 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.880 to win today. Yeah. It's it's the easiest job for 0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:04.640 a coach to when you where he comes to letting 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.840 go our guys that are out there bullshitting around and 0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.120 not not giving you the effort. Those guys you don't 0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:12.600 even you cut without even barely even a thought to 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:14.760 him in my mind, hey, thanks, thanks for the effort. 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:17.120 But but it's those guys like you said that in 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:19.640 especially when you get down to you know, the guys 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:25.720 that's fifty three, those guys that have gone in and 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.680 just done everything, and you've gone out and bled for 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.480 you and you busted ass and you know, volunteered to 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:34.680 do whatever they could do. Though, those are the tough 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.880 cuts for for any coach, because you admire those guys, 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:41.280 you respect them, and you know they gave you everything 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.960 they could give you. They just don't just don't fit, 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:47.640 you know. And so you know he'll make those calls 0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.000 and he'll make those decisions and and and we're gonna 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:51.720 have a football team that I think you did. You're 0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.040 gonna see how every week that this season goes on, 0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:57.560 it's gonna go out and bust their ass and play hard. 0:59:58.080 --> 0:59:59.520 I don't know how many games are gonna win. Don't 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:01.280 if they're gonn win two or twelve. I don't know 1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:03.840 if they're gonna win six or ten. I I don't 1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.320 know what those numbers are, but I do feel this. 1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:08.840 It's gonna be a team that's made up of guys 1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:10.840 that want to be there, Guys want to bust their 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.160 ass and guys that want to win games. No matter 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.600 what the makeup of this roster is going to be. Yeah, 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:17.880 and the and the last test is is Thursday in 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.000 New Orleans where some of these guys, as you said, 1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:22.520 if you're not thirty or above, boy, you better play 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:25.440 hard and make sure you're on your on your assignments 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:27.560 and and try to limit the mental mistakes and and 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.640 find a way to flash uh to hang on and 1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:32.520 be a member of the Miami Dolphins that get ready 1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:34.760 for September eight to play the Balton all right, if 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:36.240 their minds are on that right now, because I know 1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:38.400 my mind on going to New Orleans is where we 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:43.400 go eat. Well, you're focused. I mean a lot for 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.960 that based on that, you know, Molly problems. I got 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.560 a place stay away from the hurricane drinks. I've got 1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:50.520 a place that have been going since the first time 1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:53.560 I went where there's a place called Mr Bees be Stro. 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.120 The Brennan's have a bunch of restaurants in New Orleans. 1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:59.680 They have one called Mr Bes Bistro. Then I ran 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.160 a somehow well the first time I went to New 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:05.520 Orleans with the team, and I've gone there every every 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.680 every time, since we may have to drag me along. Well, barbecue, 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:10.960 they have a little barbecue, shrimp and grits, and it's like, 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:16.320 I was, man, just my arm, I'm man. You think 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:18.800 Jeff and Logan those guys want to tag along with us? Yeah, 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.680 they come, they come, all right? Chance, you know, look, 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:25.840 we won't well, we'll we'll, we'll, we'll pay everything. We'll 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:28.080 we'll give them. We'll pay one percent of every one 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:31.080 of their checks. All right, how about that? That's up 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:34.800 from a half. They've been pretty good this during this priest. 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:36.800 Maybe we'll go to two percent. We'll stretch it to 1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:39.240 two percent. We'll pick up two percent of the check. 1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:42.880 I'm in unlet's they screw up between now and then, 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:45.640 we're on their own. They may be on their own. 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:48.640 I know that track record? All right, that's gonna do 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:51.640 for the audible. For this week, it's the uh New 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:54.880 Orleans Saints to wrap up the preseason, and then UH 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:57.240 and then we strap it up and uh next a 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.960 week from ten days later, eleven days later, how many 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:02.600 days later, it's the Baltimore Ravens come to town. You 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:04.680 do it for real and uh and then this season 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:06.960 really really gets interesting. John has been a it's been 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.440 a good time being around here for the preseason. Uh 1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:11.680 been a lot of stuff going on. It's been interesting, 1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:15.680 it's been it's been surprising. Uh we It's been a 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:20.520 very very different training camp. But I've enjoyed everything, and 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:23.240 I've enjoyed being around the coaches. I like the staff, 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.840 I like the head coach, Um, I like the way 1:02:25.880 --> 1:02:28.800 they're going. And like I said, I don't know what 1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:30.760 the don't know how many wins are gonna have, but 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:32.720 I'm confident this is gonna be a football team that 1:02:32.960 --> 1:02:35.000 Uh then if if you look at the effort that 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:37.080 they give, you can be pretty proud of it. It's 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:39.280 a season, yeah, and these guys have worked hard, and 1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:42.160 it's I just can't wait to see, you know, who's 1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:44.480 on the roster, who's starting at quarterback, who's playing at 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:46.640 wide receiver, who's starting at running back, who's the guy 1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:48.720 at linebacker, who's the you know the nickels. Maybe every 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:51.520 week you're looking at that, but it's okay, that's okay 1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:53.920 as long as it gives us the best opportunity to win. 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.320 I'm all in man, all right for John Kim, Jimmy, 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:58.360 I'm Kim bocabra that's gonna do it for the audible 1:02:58.680 --> 1:03:01.520 this week. We'll catch it next week. This regular season 1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:02.120 rolls around