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Speaker 1: and welcome to Season one, eight seven, Episode one of

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zi Case. It's a production of My Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and it's the podcast where we take a deep

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Speaker 1: it's pretty June. My name is Miles Gray a k

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Speaker 1: an saying, oh maybe I like the grawl. Yeah baby,

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Speaker 1: from the Home of the Dodgers too squad. Okay, there

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Speaker 1: it was that shout out to my boy in out

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Speaker 1: you so much for that. Without further ado, let me

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Speaker 1: just get to the main fan here, the guest co

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Speaker 1: So first, allow me to introduce our honorable co host

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Speaker 1: any fucking introductions anymore. It's Jamie Loftus. Oh a, kay a, well,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jamie Loftus, A frequent podcast guest. Am I,

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Speaker 1: but I host the dailys I Guess with Miles from

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Speaker 1: time to dame. If I could get rich hosting a

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Speaker 1: A Kings And right on the zamboon that wasn't what

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Speaker 1: I think is one of my favorites of all time.

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Speaker 1: That they from Chilton Bloomstone, which is a very rich

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Speaker 1: sounding name. Sorry, that's a name, Chiltern Bloomstone, Bloomstone of course,

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Speaker 1: of course children Bloomstone the fourth actually if you remember,

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Speaker 1: thank you child Bloomstone. Thank you Chilkee. And we must

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Speaker 1: go on. We must introduce our guests today, someone who

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce our guests today, the wonderful, the talented,

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Speaker 1: my fellow Bruin who will leave you an emotional ruin.

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Speaker 1: It is blair sake, daily zy guy, You're fucking boy Blair.

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Speaker 1: Back to fucking hang with my pals. I'm yet to

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Speaker 1: going to happen. I see. So you you happen you

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Speaker 1: Miles Jesus seriously so serious that I think Blair could

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Speaker 1: do an ak as herself. Yeah, thank you, Jamie, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I was just exploring that I saw that

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Speaker 1: first of all, as a former resident of Orange County,

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Speaker 1: But first Blair hit us with something from your search

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Speaker 1: and it don't. It's it's truly one of like the

424
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: multiple absurdities that we have happening concurrently in like global society,

425
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: where we're like we're just like setting ourselves on fire.

426
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just can't go on Twitter because there's like

427
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: at least one tweet a day where someone's like, good

428
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: luck enjoying your day when the earth is going to

429
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: be on fired four years. I sort of God, that's like, seriously,

430
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: just like what Twitter is like distilled down to me

431
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: for today, I'm like, do I want to go on

432
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: there and see that? Because it does feel like there

433
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: consideration for climate change feels like something that people are

434
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: just now thinking about, like in the last few years,

435
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: like critically and seriously. I wonder if it's like because

436
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: like there's this thing where like the old people who

437
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: have been in charge of like a lot of these corporations,

438
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: like they're hearing maybe like they're their own grandkids, like Hey,

439
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do you do you know whatever?

440
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Just cut? Does there money on my credit card? All right? By?

441
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know like if they're seeing more pressure because

442
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: I remember when I went to Alaska a few years ago,

443
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: I was like I visited a glacier and there was

444
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: like this whole thing about being like, look how significant

445
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: this glacier was and how it's receded over the years.

446
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: And there was this older couple who were there, Like

447
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: the woman was like, oh my god, it's so horrible,

448
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: and her husband was like, you believe in this stuff?

449
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: And she's like, Bill, it's melting, Like it's what do

450
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: you mean we're seeing like up and and he was like,

451
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like but think about our grandkids.

452
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know. It's like I don't really

453
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: have time for that. Like they just kept going and

454
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what a moment to just see,

455
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Like I guess yeah, everyone has their own indifference for

456
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: things like that or can't fathom what their future is

457
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: going to look like. So well, in general, it's easier

458
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: to not think or not feel feelings than to feel

459
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: the way and truth of the feelings in your soul. Yeah,

460
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: Bills just like, not not for me, but it's melting

461
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: it the way it was said melting like I don't

462
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: believe in that was like it's ice cube melting though, Bill, No, no, No,

463
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: too many things I've already we'll see. We'll see how

464
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: bears that for the end of the planet today, come

465
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: on our beer tastings in forty minutes. I do agree

466
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: player that, Like, yeah, logging into Twitter every day is

467
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: like it kind of becomes the like remember you will

468
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 1: Die zone, just like full on Memento Maria, anytime you're like, oh,

469
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I just was hoping to see a couple a little jokes.

470
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: I just like a couple of little jokes this morning.

471
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: But you're right, I will die. And and sometimes I

472
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: feel guilt, And I mean, I know this is a

473
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: shadow aspect of myself, but I feel guilt for posting

474
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: a joke when I'll see twenty tweets about like the

475
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: all the crisis of today, and and then I forget, like,

476
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: oh great, now I've come on to a place where

477
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: I feel guilt of being myself and what I feel

478
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: my purpose to spread in the world is, which is

479
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: jokes and laughter, you know whatever. Yeah, it's a very

480
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: bizarre place to exist, Yeah for sure. But I think

481
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: that's just sort of like the surreal and fucked up

482
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: nature of like social media is like when you're like,

483
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: there are these things where people contribute their words too.

484
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: It begins to just look as like your existence is

485
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: sort of distilled to whatever is posted there. When it's

486
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: like I saw how sad I was in person. Guys,

487
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: you would I started. I started. I don't do it

488
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but on my Instagram. I used to be like,

489
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't wanna write like sincere stuff on there, and

490
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: now I like write sincere stuff all the time. And

491
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: sometimes I have that thought in my head where it's like, oh,

492
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: like that like comedians who are like Earnest, Oh my god,

493
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, fuck you. I give you, guys,

494
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: so many jokes and stuff. I can be sincere and

495
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: my real, true sensitive soul whenever I want. But you're

496
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: reminding me that I'm not being votable. Yeah, now I

497
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: feel guilty. Their epic fail of a post your Instagram

498
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: is is such good vibes player. That's so sweet. Thank you.

499
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh God, I would say to all people, you know,

500
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: we're again. We're facing omni crises all over in many

501
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: different turns. Um Unfortunately, like apathy around climate change is

502
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: the is the thing that is probably the biggest problem.

503
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: But at the same level, it's like I think it's

504
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: about figuring out how I think you know whether it's

505
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: more people can't just symbolically do shit anymore, and we

506
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: need like real answers, real regulation. And as much as

507
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: they want to be like whoa or your fucking lightbulbs twisty,

508
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, your straw's paper, I'm like, hey, asshole, I

509
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: don't generate the fucking power. Oh my god. When that

510
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: like the straw thing came out, it was hard for

511
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: me to accept because I love a straw. But also

512
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, great the straws, but why

513
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: aren't we getting rid of dodge rams? You know he

514
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: first since first straws over here because someone drives past you.

515
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: When the hummer is like, excuse me that straw is

516
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: it slams the brakes hold on. Yeah. It's like I

517
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: I am concerned about the turtles and it's like good,

518
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: I want their turtles to live. But like we do

519
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: also have to reckon with humankind as well. Um well,

520
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: speaking of reckoning with humankind, I just want to talk

521
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: about vaccine incentives. It's been you know, just all the rage.

522
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, we know in Ohio they're doing vax Similion

523
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: where you know a few people could If you're vaccinated,

524
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: you are eligible to win a huge million dollar cash prize,

525
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: and last week they picked their first winner and it

526
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: was twenty two year old Abbe Bulginski from Cincinnati, who

527
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: when two year old, got a million dollars. She was

528
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: on her way to buy a used car when she

529
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: got the call from the governor to be like, hey

530
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: you want It's like, are you fucking what is this joke? Dude,

531
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: I gotta go buy a used car. And they're like, no, no, no, seriously, seriously,

532
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: you know that you won the vax Similian thing. She

533
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: says she doesn't know how she plans to spend the money,

534
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: but some will be donated and some will go to

535
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: the new car she's been wanting, and the rest will

536
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: probably be invested. So god, what a levelheaded, incredible young woman.

537
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, yeah, what a sensible what

538
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: a sensible gal? Or she knows how to just say

539
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: the right things. She's like, yeah, donated to my baller

540
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: fund and then the wrest will go to my new

541
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: asthma sick as Mercedes. I'm gonna pull up in. But yeah,

542
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: she won, and now many other states have realized, yes,

543
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: the thing that America does in American culture, like we

544
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: incentivize shit to get people to do things. That's like

545
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: how everything's built. Really, what do I get? Yeah? What

546
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: do I get? So because of that, California is gonna

547
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: be doing something where they're we've got like over a

548
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen million for certain incentives. I don't know

549
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: what that's going to turn out to be. There's the

550
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: governor of West Virginia. He did a thing with like

551
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: his little dog, who's like this bulldog, and he's like,

552
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: look at, look at little baby dog. How are you

553
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna say no to my dog? And it's just like this,

554
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: look at And they're doing things they know how to incentivice,

555
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: ship over their cash prizes, college scholarships, intend pickup trucks. Okay,

556
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: so everybody's got their version. Now. I feel like that's

557
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bleak way of looking at it.

558
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: But it's also like, I don't know, I mean, we

559
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: we should have been paid to fucking stay home last year.

560
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the reason that people

561
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: are so like would would be down to get vaccinated

562
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: for a chance at a million dollars is because of

563
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: all these other failures. So I don't know, I'm like, yeah, sure,

564
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: like whatever vaccine lottery, let's go do what you gotta.

565
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look as the numbers stall out and they're like,

566
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: there's you know, who knows what else is going to

567
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: come around the bend in terms of variances and things

568
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: like that, that like, we want to be able to

569
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: get some semblance of normalcy back. Obviously never the same,

570
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: but sometimes like well, no one's been incentivized to deal

571
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: with the pandemic for well, like by the government at least,

572
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, because if everything was hey, we

573
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: get it. We had to shut businesses down. Therefore, we're

574
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: stopping your bills because how the funk could you pay

575
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: them if you're not working. We're not animals or months.

576
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no we are. So they're gonna have to

577
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: figure it out. You're gonna face a huge bill in

578
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: about two years. Good fucking luck. I love the idea

579
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: of like one of these like quing on people that's

580
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: like no, not no, what you're not getting the back

581
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: seeing and then he's like, wait a minute, pickup truck. Okay,

582
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: cap me in, I'm getting me a new truck. Forget

583
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: everything I said, Because for a lot of people it's

584
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: just like a take that you're on the side of

585
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: or you're just sort of uninformed. So some people might

586
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: feel like, at the end of the day, you're like

587
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: my weird like own the lips ideology isn't as great

588
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: as my passion for a dodge ram. Yeah, own the lips.

589
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: But give me these truck nuts. Yeah, oh god, wait

590
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: truck nuts. If you get vaccinated, hold on, Okay, I'll

591
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: take the prick shot. But I think you know, it

592
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: all depends because some people they want money, some people

593
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: want trucks, some people want hugs. But at the end

594
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: of the day, what we do know is the anti

595
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: vax rout is very angry about this because the legislators

596
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: over there have introduced a fucking bill that is like,

597
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: dick there, you can't make anyone get a vaccine. You

598
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: can't even say the word vaccine. You can't even like

599
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: ask someone to get one. Like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?

600
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: What is this? So let me just read the description

601
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: the legislation with band vaccine requirements on customers, employees, or

602
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: students from business as, hospitals, and nursing homes, k through

603
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: twelve schools, colleges, daycares, or others. It would also prevent governments, insurers,

604
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: or businesses from offering incentives for people to get vaccinated,

605
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: or even requesting that people get vaccinated. Under the bill,

606
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: of small business owned by asthmatics or cancer survivors, both

607
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: of whom are at higher risk of serious COVID nineteen complications,

608
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: would have no legal right to require even requests that

609
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: employees or customers who come inside be vaccinated. You know,

610
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: people love to if you have a business, aren't thought

611
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: you can tell everybody? You could do what you please.

612
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: But I guess this is very I guess logic because

613
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: sometimes you hear anti vacs people say, well, it's about

614
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: personal choice too, but like to then completely vilify the

615
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: vaccine that isn't gonna work, That's not that's I don't

616
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure what that outcome you're looking

617
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: for is, aside from just being like stop it. People

618
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: are agreeing with this. That logic is so interesting though,

619
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: and like I do understand that it's I I know,

620
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say that it's about

621
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: the idea of being forced in the loss of freedom,

622
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, what about like all of those

623
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: vaccines that we all had to get to go to

624
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: school when we were three or four, Like what about

625
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: those you know, Well, I never had them and I

626
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: never take flu shots and I never get sick. So

627
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: because that's the other ideology too, which is main character syndrome,

628
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: where you think every single person has the same immune

629
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: system you do. And maybe because you've not met people

630
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: who've had complications. We've had guests on this show who

631
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: have dealt with COVID complications in the past, like you know, candidly,

632
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh God, that's awful. It's not the

633
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: same for anyone, and to have that like singular mindset

634
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: is so awful. Meanwhile, there are millions of people dying

635
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: all over the world. And if you look at even

636
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: just generally, right, I think as Americans, people don't realize

637
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: the benefit of the decades of your genetics being like

638
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: having an American infrastructure behind it, what that does for

639
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: your health outcomes over the years, because it's very clear

640
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: in America the people who don't have easy access to healthcare,

641
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: especially people of color, their health outcomes are much different

642
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: than people who have grown up generationally you know, middle

643
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: class or just in just out of poverty. Um. And

644
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: to think that that would apply to other places is

645
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: like totally absurd and takes for granted, like the process

646
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: to which you even become something here. Yeah. And on

647
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: top of that, like the dissonance of people saying like, oh,

648
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: well I didn't get vaccinated and I never got like

649
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: the momps, And it's like, well, yeah, because everyone around

650
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: you got fucking vaccinated, Like what are you talking about?

651
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: What I thought we had to get those like for school,

652
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: like vaccines. Yeah. And there's a thing that always makes

653
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: me cry. And I remember Dr Carter. He would always

654
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: give me a lollipop that he would I remember this

655
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: as a kid. He would take the thing off for

656
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: me and then give it to me, and I was like,

657
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to eat this at home, and now you

658
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: give me an unwrapped lollipop And what a loss of

659
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: your freedoms? Yeah, and that's why I'm anti VAXX. Yeah.

660
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: I just the only reason I got vaccinated so I

661
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: can go to the Laker game philosophically though, you know,

662
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: y'all know where I stand and for the free truck nuts. Okay,

663
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back

664
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about Cruella and Instagram Okay,

665
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: let's uh, we're back. Sorry. I didn't mean to just

666
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: say okay, we are back, just like okay, sorry, I'm sorry,

667
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Sorry for apological the apology apology accepted, sorry

668
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: for saying sorry. So you know, in I don't know

669
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: if everyone remembers. Remember, there's like the discussion of like,

670
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: does should Instagram have likes? Any likes? Are likes poison?

671
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Are they poisoning everyone's minds? And like, what are we

672
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna do about it? Well, for the last two years,

673
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Instagram has been doing, I guess a lot of research

674
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: and testing to figure out like what the best outcome is.

675
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: And it's a little anticlimactic. This is from a post

676
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: that they just put out. It says, quote, what we

677
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: heard from people and experts was that not seeing light

678
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: counts was beneficial for some and annoying to others, particularly

679
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: because people use the light counts to get a sense

680
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: of what's trending or popular. So we're going to give

681
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: you the choice, meaning as a user, if you for you,

682
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: it's better to be like yo, I don't give a

683
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: funk and I don't Actually I'll be more free if

684
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: I can just post and not be tethered to like

685
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: this idea of a numerical like count based on what

686
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: I've submitted to the earth from my own brain and soul.

687
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: You can turn the light counts off, and then for

688
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: others if you if you just have to know and

689
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: you've got to know what's popular, you can keep them on.

690
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: But it turns out like when this is announced, it

691
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: was super polarizing, like from people really being like talk

692
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I thought I think I would. I

693
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: will probably turn it off. I mean I haven't posted

694
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: to my grid in like a year or something, but

695
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I probably would do that because I've always just had

696
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: I think my relationship social media is like morphed in

697
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: a weird way over time where I'm like, let's like,

698
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been hearing rumors about the likes

699
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: disappearing for the past five years. I've never seen it happen,

700
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it's something that's still coming,

701
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: this mythological thing that would happen. I have now adopted,

702
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: probably in my geriatric age, the idea, the very very

703
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: clear idea that Instagram and social media is so bad

704
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: for our mental health and our hearts and our souls

705
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: and you know, after watching that movie The Social Dilemma

706
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: that everyonet you know talks about the idea of like

707
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: children getting because like kids get Instagram at like ten

708
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: in ship now, and you know, they're sort of value

709
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: and currency is so visually measured at a tender age

710
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: where everyone is so ugly and uncomfortable and like just

711
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: feeling so already that way, and to have it just

712
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it's really sad. It made

713
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: me really sad and worried for kids that like even

714
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: more than it already is in that developmental stage that

715
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: it's like all our value is outsourced and not coming

716
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: from insider. So it really worries me deeply. Well, this

717
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: is the thing. So there have been in the last

718
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: few years a lot of research has gone into this,

719
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: like a lot because that again, I think everyone was

720
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: on some level being like, yeah, I know, I feel

721
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel good all the time. But it turns

722
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: out there was a just at the first thing did

723
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: a thirty year study of teenagers and technology to just

724
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: sort of see like what this intersection of smartphones, social networks,

725
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: and changes in mental health work. And there's another one

726
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: too in the New York Times I was just looking

727
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: at what the effect is on the you know, mental

728
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: health of children when they're interacting with these things, and

729
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: they found that there isn't It doesn't move the needle

730
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: that much. Like there's a lot more factors that affect

731
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: that going into it than the social media itself. Now

732
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: they're not saying relax, it's fine. They're like, it's a

733
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: it is a spectrum of results, but it's they said,

734
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: through their research, very hard to pinpoint like say, oh, yeah,

735
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: there's the connection right there, and I think it's because yeah,

736
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: I think I just don't think that's true. I think

737
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: just I just don't think that's true. And I would

738
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: be very curious to see, like for whoever's outcome that

739
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: was determined by whose results those were, because it's just

740
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: so clear, Like if you just talk to anyone on

741
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: earth and say, Okay, how do you feel when you

742
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: go on Instagram? And then when you get off do

743
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: you feel better having looked at it? No, almost everyone

744
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: would say like, no, I don't feel great after, even

745
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: if it's very low level, you know what I mean,

746
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: there's some so I mean I think that's the truth,

747
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, that's you you know, what I mean.

748
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I think. I also think there's something to the environment

749
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: because poor kids don't have smartphones and their outcomes are

750
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: different to like based on what your emotional socio economic

751
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: environment is like when you're a kid who has a

752
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of an effect on like how you navigate life.

753
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do. But I definitely agree with you

754
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Blair that on some level there is like some slight

755
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: debt I don't know, And I think maybe this is

756
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: this could be generational or just because when you look

757
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: at the world in similar ways that like it does

758
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: have an effect from like it did, I feel like

759
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: a slight deficit sometimes on like on some level. Well,

760
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: it's also always just a thing about even inadvertently without

761
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: realizing it, unconsciously work in almost steady, ceaseless state of

762
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: consuming instead of being in our own like uh, singular

763
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: energy like it's I don't know, I find it. I

764
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: find it alarming. Yeah, but I think that's why I

765
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: think people have over the years you've especially on this show,

766
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: we hear constantly how everyone says social media is overrated

767
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: with some connection to it being like it doesn't do it.

768
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: I used to be so annoyed when I would see

769
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: tweets or like by people like shooting on social media.

770
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: I would be like, just get off it then, But

771
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: then and now, especially after seeing that that movie, it

772
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: really scared me for young girls, and like that two

773
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent increase in suicides or something like that really

774
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: freaked me out. And also I think all those um

775
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: filters for faces are really scary for young kids, Like

776
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: we're all just morphing into like homogenized like Instagram face.

777
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: It's it's scary, I think now that I've bummed out everyone. Yeah,

778
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: I I don't really know. I mean, I I agree

779
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: with you Blair that, especially with body image stuff, it

780
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: is so like pervasive in a way that feels like, well,

781
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: there's like how could you possibly deny that, you know

782
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: where it's whatever, it's the monkeys pop of Like the

783
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: connectivity to the world is so much bigger, but the

784
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: ways to like target people younger and younger is bigger.

785
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, But but then it's like, I

786
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: guess for this decision, as far as this Instagram decision goes,

787
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: it makes sense to me that you could turn it

788
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: on or off. Where I feel for so many of us,

789
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm glad these studies are being done, but

790
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: for for so many of us, unfortunately, I think the

791
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: damage is kind of done, and like some of us

792
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: are going to be able to improve our relationship towards

793
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: social media, but like most people who grew up online,

794
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: like it just does maybe this is a bummer too,

795
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: But it's like, I honestly don't think that my relationship

796
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: with social media is going to get much better for

797
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: as as long as I have the career that I

798
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: do and I like can't not be on it, I

799
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: don't see it improving. And so it's like, yeah, it

800
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: would be nice to shut off likes every once in

801
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: a while, but also it's like I'll probably turn them

802
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: back on I it's you know, for I feel like

803
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: generationally there's been a lot of damage, and what I

804
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: would hope is that there are like options and restrictions

805
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: put on social media that can prevent damage like that

806
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: for kids who are like growing up online inevitably right now.

807
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: And then I feel, yeah, like millennials and gen z,

808
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: it's it's like we were kind of raised in the

809
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: wild West of social media, and I feel we'll just

810
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: continue to see the effects of that as time goes on.

811
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: But honestly, like if all of social media changed overnight

812
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: in a way that is like, oh, this is gonna

813
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: be so much healthier for you, I feel like I

814
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: would panic, Like I don't know what I would do.

815
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: I like it is, so it's like whatever, you know

816
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: you I like, I guess my first social media platform

817
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: was like my Space, And I remember like counting comments

818
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: on my profile pictures when I was like eleven or

819
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and like that's just how you. That's

820
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: and and and it starts with kids younger and younger,

821
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know there's no easy solution for it

822
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: because and I think I think that's what's interesting about

823
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: this function is like rather than trying to as a

824
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: platform determine what's best, they can just say, look, look, dude,

825
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: you can there are options here to like have an

826
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: experience the way you want it, or if you get

827
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: really turned up on seeing the numbers next to the thing,

828
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: then go ahead and knock yourself out. Yeah, to everyone's point,

829
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: I think everyone on some level has been examining their

830
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: own relationships to social media and like what that does

831
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: for their themselves and what that may mean for like

832
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: reinforcing a sense of identity or feeling good about what

833
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: you do, and then you just figure out what maybe

834
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't need it maybe, And I think to your point, Blare,

835
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: like we live off of these fucking screens, man, Like

836
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: we don't live on Twitter, we don't live on Instagram.

837
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: And I know some people do or think that everything

838
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: that happens there is their life. But realizing like to

839
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: be in your own physical body and like you know,

840
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: enjoying that and finding a way to pivot off of that,

841
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: I think it's been for me personally a fantastic thing,

842
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I could ride a bike and ship

843
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: deep into trying to dive back into my body. Especially

844
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: in Quarantine, I really did renegotiate my entire relationship to

845
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: social media, and you know that's always an ongoing process.

846
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: But like I think in the beginning of Quarantine, I

847
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: took my first two week break in like eight years

848
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: or something, and it was like my brain completely just

849
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: like like regenerated. It was just like it felt like

850
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: it was like gas, like when you come up from underwater.

851
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: It was like getting air for the first time. And um,

852
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: now what I do is I basically only use it

853
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: from my laptop, and I um deleted from my phones,

854
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: but the for the during the day and unless I

855
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: have to repost something that I am forced to download

856
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: the app, but that has been How many times have

857
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: you downloaded and deleted? Redounded? Because oh my, I do

858
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: it every day. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, you're like, alright,

859
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: just one small barrier though, for me to take back

860
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: some of my goddamn freedom because I'm always you know,

861
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: we do it unconsciously. It's like I realized like half

862
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: the time that I'm looking at it, it's just like, um,

863
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: some habit. It's not like I consciously thought, you know,

864
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: what I'd really like to do right now, have a

865
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: look at it Instagram. You know. It was just an

866
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: unconscious action. Yeah. It is such like a individual journey

867
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: of like navigating like how is this going to be

868
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: able to? Like how am I going to have a

869
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: life outside of this? And what are I don't know

870
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: because I know people who love it and aren't like

871
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: based to me, seem completely free of the ills of

872
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: social media, and I'm like, huh, how are you are

873
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: you lying? They could be lying, Yeah, they could be.

874
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you can tell with someone's like

875
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: low key like spooky and sad underneath it all. Yeah,

876
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean if I wasn't a comedian, I would delete

877
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: it today. I would delete it today, babes, I will

878
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: be gone, disappeared, you'd never see me again. But you're

879
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: more than a comedian player, I wouldn't. That's like I

880
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't delete. I don't know. I feel like there are

881
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: some ways where it's like social media has like fucked

882
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: my brain up irrevocably, and then other ways where I'm like,

883
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: there are ways that I communicate better through those channels

884
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: or like talk to people I feel like more cogently

885
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: or like whatever, talk to people you'd never be able

886
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: to meet or talk. I don't know. It's so it's

887
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: so tricky. And then I also feel like there is

888
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: this pressure to like perform having a better relationship with

889
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: social media. Then you actually do, like I know that,

890
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: like anytime someone's like whatever, posting to Instagram about how

891
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: they're not going to be on Instagram as much, and

892
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: then I'm just like, I think you're lying, Like I

893
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's so that's what I think. That's

894
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: why it's so fucked up is because it's this way

895
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: where you think you can read like people can now

896
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: see who you are and derived from that like a truth,

897
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: and then your even questions like is this performative? Is

898
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: it not? Because? And I think that's sort of like

899
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: the thing, the sort of momentum of questioning or inner

900
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: monologue that happens and I'm like, oh my god, I

901
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: kid like I just wanted to look at a picture

902
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, is this person like well we

903
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean the truth is they'll even we like download

904
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: ideas of what is acceptable and unacceptable through our mirror neurons,

905
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: like that's our first access point in psyche, through our

906
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: rentin us. So it's like, I mean, these things do

907
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: have a big impact on us with subconsciously without us

908
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: even realizing it. Like when I see the this is

909
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: just a small example, but when I see women posting

910
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: pictures like with their cellulite and stuff, like, I'm like,

911
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: that is fucking cool. It seems like a really small thing,

912
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: but they're doing it deliberately, and I'm like, oh, that

913
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: makes me feel more comfortable with myself. Then when I'm

914
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: following only airbrushed models, you know what I mean, or

915
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: just I mean, that's just one example of like many, many,

916
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: many different facets of it. But it is a weird,

917
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: very weird thing because I think that's the version, like

918
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: the insidious part is like the manicured version of life

919
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: that is unattainable and really not close to reality. And

920
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: then people who want to like sort of shift the

921
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: paradigm and be like things you need to be more honest,

922
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: like rather than fantasy town because it's okay, let's talk

923
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: about somebody from the Disney first, someone who I don't know,

924
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: I just thought was somebody with a cool haircut and

925
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: wild behind the wheel. But Cruela of Ville, the Cruella

926
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: film came out over the weekend, and yeah, people seem

927
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: to be enjoying it. It's not getting like, you know,

928
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: panned or anything, and it's a It's an interesting moment

929
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: because I think on some level I was like, oh,

930
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: they're doing more origin stories. But you know J M. R.

931
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Writer sort of went down of how this evolution of

932
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: Corrolla Deville went down. You're like, oh, yeah, maybe this

933
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: humanized version is something useful considering how you know, Disney

934
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: has a habit of being like, oh my god, evil

935
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: lady or coded gay evil guy, what are we gonna do?

936
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: So this keeps an opportunity for them to possibly do something. Now,

937
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the film, but I do we do

938
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: know what has happened before. So no spoilers, you don't.

939
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: This is a spoiler free discussion of the Cruella film.

940
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: So a couple of things popped up to jam was

941
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: that first, I think, and this is true for a

942
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of kids that like, even though Cruella seems like

943
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: what why would people like do? Are people really remembering

944
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: Kuella Deville like to be its own character. There's a

945
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: thing though that like kids are attracted to the villains

946
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: like we like like when you're young, there's something interesting

947
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: or you're like, oh, like there's something more energizing when

948
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: the villain comes on. They always have the best songs too.

949
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: That's true actually straight up, the villain songs are always

950
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: the best one. Which who's your favorite villain song? You

951
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: also need polarity to make the good guy good. Absolutely,

952
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: But it's something I think about, like that sort of

953
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: like fuck you sense of power that a super villain

954
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: has or something that's like yeah, cool, like I bet

955
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: they could eat cookie Crisp out the fucking box without problems.

956
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: The second thing interesting and Jamie I know you're loving this.

957
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: The director who's directing Cruella, Jamie Mr Gillespie himself the

958
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: director of Itonia a k my favorite movie ever. And

959
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: uh that's why I was like, damn, I I really

960
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: am going to go see Cruella, aren't I? Because I

961
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: have to support Mr Aitania's work, And you know, it

962
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: seems like this could be a it's similar story, you

963
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: know on some level, like that guy Paul Walter Houser

964
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: who played the what's his name, Sean what's his name

965
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: in Ionia? He's he plays one of the goons in Cruella. Okay,

966
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: there's the Ionia universe is really at play in cruel Yeah. Well,

967
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this movie. I can't wait to see it. Blair,

968
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: What did you did you like Cruella de Villa as

969
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: it like when the animated the animation or the animated

970
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: version came out. Yeah? I loved it. I mean I

971
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: loved all those Disney movies. I was actually just like

972
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: remarking about this the other day on how actually like

973
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: dark and sinister. A lot of those like murderous plot

974
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: lines where like when you think of Bambi, you're like,

975
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: holy sh it, it's just like the heaviest plot line

976
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: to point in the psyche of a child like you

977
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: could ever see. But I I also I'm like, yeah,

978
00:55:54,680 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: these are badass stories. I like ulla Honestly, I'm not lying.

979
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: I saw a bandy fucking once. Okay, we had that

980
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: VHS and that soft ass case you know back in

981
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: the day, and the Disney movies all came in that

982
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: padded case because I guess likes and I remember yo,

983
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: the second the Mango capt I was in tears, shattered

984
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: and like I made my mom turn it off and

985
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: that was it. I couldn't even go past that. I

986
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: was like, I'm off this mom. I think for the

987
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of children, like especially our generation,

988
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: that was that moment was the first moment of realizing

989
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: like parental mortality that in The Lion King. Yeah, we're like, yeah,

990
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: for sure, The Lion King was there's my friends who

991
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: have kids, like I heard. I was like catching up

992
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: with with friends from home the other day and they

993
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: were like trying talking about like, oh, when are you

994
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: going to be comfortable showing your kid The Lion King?

995
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Because of like the whole move Faucel thing where I

996
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: was like Oh, my parents didn't think and twice they're

997
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: just like life is short, watch it now. But I

998
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: used costumes from roller rinks, right right? So I think

999
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: I turned out fine. I think so, I mean, did

1000
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: you stop at the moment you saw it? Because I

1001
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: think there's version I. For whatever reason, the Bamby thing,

1002
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: I could not go on as I just could not

1003
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: go on. But I think maybe because Bamby was my

1004
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: first Disney based trauma. When I saw a lion king,

1005
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: I was a little bit older and had already like

1006
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: had like family members passed away and had dealt with

1007
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: something that I was like, that's sad, but I didn't

1008
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't hit me as hard. The other thing

1009
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: is this whole thing with Corella Deville. It's a derivative

1010
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: work from a book that was written by Dodie Smith.

1011
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: A Hunter one Dalmatians. Oh, and I for the record,

1012
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: I love the animated series. I I My first dog

1013
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: was a Dalmatian that we bought in Simar. That was like,

1014
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: these dogs are so inbred. But that was like that.

1015
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: I remember my dad saying that, And I learned what

1016
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: inbreeding was at six years old because my dad he's

1017
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: like and I'm like what, He's like, they're inbred. And

1018
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean. He's like, it means

1019
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: the brothers and the sisters or the mom they all

1020
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: have to have sex to make the new ones, to

1021
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: keep the dogs looking that way. And let's bring our

1022
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: dog home. And now I'm a guy who hosts a

1023
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: podcast and talks about used costumes. FM roller ranks. In

1024
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: my opinion, honestly, I want to give you a like

1025
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: a kudos, thank you, thank you, thank you. So this

1026
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: book by Dodie Smith. You know, it's been argued that Smith,

1027
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: who herself had no children and it was a successful author,

1028
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: she had adopt a male pseudonym just to get in

1029
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: the business, which I've never heard of. This what someone

1030
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: faking it to get in. I've never heard of this.

1031
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: So she had to use a pseudonym get in and

1032
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: then made Cruella essentially a satire of male paranoia that

1033
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: there could be this independent, wealthy, rebellious woman with no

1034
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: children and therefore must be pure evil, and was sort

1035
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: of like the wink of that character. But you know,

1036
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: the epic Bros of nineteen fifty six, we're not as

1037
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: clear on getting that nuance because once Disney bought the

1038
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: I P and gave it over to a group of

1039
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: guys who like they called like the Nine Old Men,

1040
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: Like not even a joke, like that's what this group

1041
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: was called. That turned the character completely like on its

1042
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: head and made it something completely different and just being like, oh,

1043
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: she's an evil woman and she's wacky and rich. So

1044
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: oh no, kids, you've seen this. Yeah, just like any

1045
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like Disney's full of like villains that

1046
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: are like women over forty that like are not mothers

1047
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: that have just stopped breastfeeding moments before the scene. Like

1048
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: it's so yeah. It is like in the same thing

1049
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: happened in the nineties six remake Glenn Close, Right, isn't that?

1050
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: Isn't that the ninety was that ninety Yeah, that was

1051
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: nineties six. I rewatched that movie not too long ago.

1052
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: It's bizarre, but Glenn Close is really good. It sounds

1053
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Speaker 1: like because in this one it wasn't about being like

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: a wealthy, independent woman who had no children. This version was, oh,

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01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: successful women are fucking dangerous suddenly. Relativeville is like this

1056
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: fashion executive and right, it makes like evil like these

1057
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: speeches that are about quote the talent killing dulness of

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: marriage and child rearing. Oh wow, that's a little on

1059
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: the fucking nose bone. And then even the reviews are like,

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: we're calling the film out is quote for it's pretty

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: retrogressive tone where everyone's like what is what? What happened

1062
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: to this thing? And then there's like the other thing,

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Speaker 1: the road rage. You know, I think a lot of

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: people think remember from the film or the animated version

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: when she's driving around that like dope OUs hot rod

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: and ship and she's got like the demonic face and

1067
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: all this ship going on. So that was the other thing,

1068
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: a huge thing that a lot of people like. This

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: is um, I think this speels like if it's the

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: Nine Old Men. Perhaps this has something to do with

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01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: the anti suffragette movement, where you know, essentially for women

1072
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 1: looking for who are trying to have the right to vote.

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: The arguments were like like after the fact, like these people,

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: these women want to have the right to vote and

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01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: all this only they're The whole idea of women driving

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01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: cars was like a political symbol could even drive. It's like, oh,

1077
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: these brods are hysterical, look at them, Look at him

1078
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: to get behind the wheel. It's wacky. You see what

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01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: happens when a woman is mobile. I remember it's so

1080
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: funny because both the Henchman Goon guys and her. I

1081
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: recall so deeply feeling so much anxiety when both of

1082
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: them were in the driving scenes because they're like semi

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: flying out of the cars the entire time in the cars,

1084
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: like going like that in all the scenes. It was

1085
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: just chaos. I mean, Laurie is one of the guys too,

1086
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: in the nineties one. He's like one of the what's

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01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: from a call it the Bad the Bad Guys? Right, Oh,

1088
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: this is an all star cast. Um. So yeah, I mean,

1089
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: like looking at all this now, I haven't seen it,

1090
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely down to see it because I remember

1091
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: even seeing the trailer when it came. I was like, what,

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01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of like hot topic late adds like aesthetic,

1093
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: but I was I was down with that then and

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01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm down with it now. So stripe Pants, you were, Yeah,

1095
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is a little bit Jack Skellington.

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01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, dude, like dual tone and then it's

1097
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: like all the merch from this movie is says like

1098
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: one hundred percent devil like ship like that. I kind

1099
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: of missed that era of graphic design. They're trying to

1100
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: bring it back. Hell yeah, so you know, we'll see

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01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: what happens. Uh for people have seen it, you know,

1102
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: let us know your thoughts. We've we've heard mixed things,

1103
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: but I'm curious to see what they how they treat

1104
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: this character and the depiction of Cruela. It's time around,

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: so I think of you all right, we'll see though,

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: we'll see see these more reasons to go that. That's

1107
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: another thing I want to do. Go to a movie soon?

1108
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: He too. I haven't gone. And also I'm excited to

1109
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: see m A. Stone and I think she's really talented.

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01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: And I recently watched Crazy Stupid Love, which happens to

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: be one of the movies besides Forgetting Sarah Marshall that

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01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: I have seen the most times, because they just used

1113
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: to like play it over and over. Were you on

1114
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: Tami when we were talking about that, like recently about No,

1115
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: we we just did a Bechtel cost episode of Yeah,

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01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: I think handed they always just talk about that scene

1117
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: or he's like, dude, don't sip from the straw like

1118
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: it looks like you're what do you say, like you're

1119
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: sucking on a tiny pecker or something when he's making

1120
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: it all homophobic to use a straw and a cocktail. Yeah, fellas,

1121
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: is it good to use a straw? Like? All right? Well, Blair,

1122
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us and coming through

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: with again your energy or wonderful sensibility and perspective. Where

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01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: can people find you and follow you? Supports you? My

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: good maas, how do you my best friend, my best

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01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: looking bro dog? Okay, well you can support me if

1127
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: um you also want to be my friend on my

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01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: social media, which, as I have told you, I am

1129
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: a huge fan of and it's at Blair Saki B

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01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: L A I R S O C C I And

1131
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: that's on Twitter and Instagram. And then the other thing

1132
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: that I want to tell you guys about my zy

1133
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: gang that I love. I will be hosting another virtual

1134
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: breathwork event on um June twenty two, and I've done

1135
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: two of them before and they've been really cool. So

1136
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: if you want to have a bodacious time and lose

1137
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: your mind, get your ticket and my LinkedIn bio. There

1138
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: it is. And is there anything from your social media

1139
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: that you would like to shout out as something that

1140
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: gave you a pleasant reaction? That you would like to

1141
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: share with the list. Oh sure, yeah, you know, I

1142
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: brought a tweet for you. This is from my my

1143
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: friend Amy Miller, hilarious comedian and you know, simple but

1144
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: made me laugh. She so she wrote a lady at

1145
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: Target that just looked at me, pointed to her full car,

1146
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: and went, I don't need any of this ship. Some

1147
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: days you meet an icon. I yo, no joke. I

1148
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: called that tweet out yesterday because I love this. Oh

1149
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: my god, we love Amy. That ship just makes me

1150
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: laugh so hard because I just love just just that

1151
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: person too. So we all recognize ourselves. Yeah, I don't

1152
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: need any of this ship. And you're like, I don't

1153
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: know why you're telling me that, but yeah, alright cool,

1154
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Like at okay, Jamie, how about you thank you so

1155
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: much for you know, being around and co hosting and

1156
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: helping right this ship. Hey, listen, I'm glad. I'm gonna

1157
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: let Jack out of my freezer in a minute. Really

1158
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: really nice to trap him in my freezer for the

1159
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: last couple of hours. I hope he had a good break.

1160
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. I'm all the regular places on Instagram

1161
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: and Twitter being very unhealthy. Probably, uh, you can listen

1162
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: to the Bechtel Cast every week. I have a new

1163
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: podcast about Kathy Comics coming out at the end of

1164
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: June that is I don't know. Yeah, I'm finishing it

1165
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: and it's been harder to do than I thought. There's

1166
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot going on with the Kathy Comics. It's gonna

1167
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: be a can't miss series. Like everything you do, and

1168
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: we can prop we prop our lonely butts up by

1169
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: having you on the Jamie coming through and Blair can

1170
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: just cover from my biocrity. Please. I'm so this is

1171
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: such a good crew today. I'm so happy that we

1172
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: all got to like hang out and talk. Yeah, I know,

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01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: it was so great to see you guys. You know,

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01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: I love you both so much and admire you and

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: your work and what you bring to the world in

1176
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: your spirits. Oh you know what, we might have to

1177
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: all link up for a movie. Hell yeah, let's all

1178
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: go see Cruella. Yeah, oh man, that would be dope. Actually, yeah,

1179
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in that, because you know, the

1180
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: thing is, you want to go like I I when

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: I go, I wanted to be with you know, like

1182
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: people who are sort of on a seem like, yeah,

1183
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: we're doing this for the first time too. So you

1184
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: got a city walk, get a hot dog movie, me

1185
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: straight to my North Hollywood heart. You know we're going

1186
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: to city walk. You know we're going. Do you walk? Donut?

1187
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: Little stale? My body responded to the idea of going

1188
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: to city walk with friends. I was like, I know

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01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: what's wild? You know what's tell the look l as

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: I gang. You know, maybe there'll be an epic thing,

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01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: like a crowd of twenty people? Is that city walk

1192
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Bay It's a movement. And also, Jamie, is there a

1193
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: tweet that you like something you can call out for us?

1194
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: I was going to shout out a moon a Myer

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01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: treat she's at muna m u n a underscore meyer

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: Uh tweet is you're gonna love the Friends Reunion if

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01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: you enjoy watching people in their fifties struggle to remember

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: stuff that happened in their twenties for two hours straight,

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01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: which was I had I had The Friends Reunion on

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01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: in the background yesterday, and that was kind of the

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01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: gist of it. It was just like a bunch of Yeah.

1202
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: It was just the friends being like, hey, do you

1203
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: remember this? And then the other person is like, no,

1204
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: but I believe you asked just kind of the whole thing.

1205
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Well, Hey, I'm I'm sure like if

1206
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: you're a hardcore fan like things, I'm really into like

1207
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: merely just seeing the people together say words. I'm like, oh,

1208
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, reunion special vibes are are fun. But

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: what it's been but it's been like twenty years. They're like,

1210
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't really remember that, but it's nice to see you.

1211
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: Some tweets that I'm liking. It's it's really just one

1212
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: and I just thought it was really fun funny, but

1213
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's a very again. This joke is

1214
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: literally a Venn diagram, and it's only going to make

1215
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: sense to this Venn diagram of people, which is you've

1216
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: seen the Sopranos and you know, and you've listened to

1217
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: the Olivia Rodrico album. Um, but it's a Venn diagram

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: with Livia Soprano on one side and Olivia Rodrigo on

1219
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: the other, and Olivia Soprano is Tony's mother who is

1220
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: a very miserable character. And then the the overlap of

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: the Venn diagram says, well, good for you, you look

1222
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: happy and healthy, not me. If you ever care to ask,

1223
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 1: good for you. You're doing great out there without me,

1224
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: like a damn sociopath. And it's just this image of

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01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: Olivia in her bed and you can just see it anyway. Wonderful,

1226
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: wonderful content. You can find me at Miles Gray on

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01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. Also the other podcast for twenty Day Fiance,

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: uh and you can find that on twitch dot tv

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: slash Fiance and uh yeah, Daily Zeitgeist find us on

1230
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: Twitter at daily zeit Caise on Instagram at the Daily

1231
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: zeite Caist. We've got websites, you know, fam pages all that.

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01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: Check us out Daily sit gis dot com. We'll post

1233
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: the episodes and the foot notes, thank you, and that

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: is where we will all sorry, linked off to the

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Speaker 1: song that we will rod add on and our believe Um,

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: let me just get it heat, sorry. One Seeking should

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01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: just be a driver's license for like three weeks in

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01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: a row, just on a loop to it until you

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: listen to it. This is actually a great album from

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: a wonderful combination of musicians. Here. Now, if if you're

1241
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: not into you know, the sixties seventies jazz thing, you

1242
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: might not know about Lonnie Smith, George Benson, Ron Carter,

1243
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: Joe Lovano, but this is an album called Acrodesia, and

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: this track is called apex Um and it's just you know,

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01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: great easy listening. Just to play break it up a

1246
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I've been playing a lot of remixes, so

1247
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: I want to play something old and like with human beings,

1248
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: blowing wind through instruments U and playing instruments as well.

1249
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: So we'll go out on that, come back in a

1250
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: little bit for trends, and then we'll see you later.

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: Have a great day, be some blest things and we'll

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: talk to you then. Bye bye bye m