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Speaker 8: Well, no time to waste today, but it is Kenny

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Speaker 9: It's like, what your birthday month?

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Speaker 2: I barely celebrate my birthday, let alone the whole month.

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Speaker 8: It is Sunday, May first, as we get Ken Flow's

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Speaker 8: fucking birthday month underway. Here in the year twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 8: Episode three seventy four of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 8: I am back off the Red Eye from Vegas, very

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Speaker 8: excited to talk to my friend. And obviously it's a

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Speaker 8: pay per view week. The bulk of the back end

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Speaker 8: of the show will be devoted to UFC two seventy

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Speaker 8: four oliverra versus Gaechee. But it's not so rare that

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Speaker 8: we have a UFC fight night like this that gives

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Speaker 8: us so goddamn much to talk about, particularly when it

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Speaker 8: comes to this main event. So let us get to it.

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Speaker 8: Marlin Cheito vera first main event for him, and he

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Speaker 8: emerges with flying colors, a monumental victory over Rob font

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Speaker 8: who was about as game as it gets. A lot

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Speaker 8: of layers to this before the fight, during the fight,

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Speaker 8: after the fight, But your thoughts on Cheetoh's performance Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Just really impressed again, a guy who will get a

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Speaker 2: spot on my Nasty Prick twenty twenty two team. He's

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Speaker 2: just again, the continued momentum, the continued improvement is beautiful

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Speaker 2: to watch. And you know, I think when I first

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Speaker 2: started striking or learning the striking game, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: be safe defensively. And what I did is I use

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Speaker 2: that shell, not that Philly shell, but that clamshell type

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Speaker 2: approach that Cheeto used, And you know, as you could see,

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Speaker 2: it nullifies even a lot of the most crisp boxers

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Speaker 2: because the punches skim off, It hits elbows, hits the

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Speaker 2: top of the head. And while it looks like he's

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Speaker 2: landing some combinations, they're not doing any damage. And I

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Speaker 2: hate making this metric or making this comparison, but if

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Speaker 2: you look at the face of Rob Font compared to

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Speaker 2: the face of Cheeto Vera, and you add up all

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Speaker 2: the numbers, and I would say, who do you think

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Speaker 2: is the guy that landed more strikes? You would go, well,

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Speaker 2: obviously Cheeto's the guy landed more strikes. That's not the

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Speaker 2: way it was, right, So defensively, Cheeto really knows how

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Speaker 2: to utilize that clamshell extremely well. It must be used

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Speaker 9: Rob is such a pretty striker to watch, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't doing any damage. And at the end

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Speaker 2: And I was talking to Cody off air before this.

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Speaker 2: It's like you know shit. If I let's say you

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Speaker 2: gunshots the bat. But I go over there and finish

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Speaker 4: Who won?

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Speaker 2: All it took was one shot? So again I felt

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Speaker 2: like that's what Chetah was doing. I thought Rob Font

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Speaker 2: won round one, right, and then rounds two, three, four,

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Speaker 8: exactly almost finished Rob Font in rounds two, three, and four,

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Speaker 8: the last several weeks, shout out, of course to Sean,

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Speaker 8: She and I felt pretty convicted in saying that the

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Speaker 8: Cheek overt. There are a lot of different angles to this,

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Speaker 8: of all certain fighters cut easily, right, Rob Font does

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Speaker 8: to you that Rob Font missed weight and that doesn't

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Speaker 8: don't want to hear that the weight just wasn't coming off.

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Speaker 8: And you know how much respect I have for the

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Speaker 8: New England Cartel and Tyson Chardier, and I think a

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Speaker 9: But I think it does stand to reason and then

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Speaker 8: Uh that if Font does stare death in the face

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Speaker 2: So it's a good point.

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Speaker 9: I mean, is that a crazy thing to say?

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. Every pound matters. It's I

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Speaker 2: marathon and you're asking someone to be like, can you

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Speaker 2: two more miles he just did. You should a marathon?

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Speaker 2: Just do two more It's it's easy, you know. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: it's it's tough. And I agree with you because all

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Speaker 2: that water, okay, it comes out of your body, it

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Speaker 2: those things. And and again Rob font should have made

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Speaker 2: the weight. That's no excuse, it's it's not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: He should have made the weight. But at the same time, John,

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Speaker 2: you're absolutely correct. If he did make that weight, I'm

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Speaker 2: got knocked out so many times during the fight. Sure,

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Speaker 2: So it absolutely has an impact on your body doing

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Speaker 2: a weight cut. Again, Yeah, I hate to, you know,

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Speaker 2: talk about my experience, but I fought and I felt

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Speaker 2: like shit at one hundred and forty five pounds both times.

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Speaker 2: Energy wise, strength wise, I wasn't the same. I remember

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Speaker 2: I got hit by a shot and I dropped to

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Speaker 2: So that was unfortunate on Rob's side.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's tough because a lot of my dearest friends

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Speaker 8: and you know, for Dominic Cruz's last weightcut, I'm not

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Speaker 8: going to get into the details, but like the weight

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Speaker 2: Still made the weight.

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Speaker 8: But he still made the weight, Righteah, so so much

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Speaker 8: so that when he got to the way and he's

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Speaker 8: you know, he's like, after the fight, he said to me,

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Speaker 8: a record here, right in terms of statistically he landed

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Speaker 8: two hundred and seventy one significant strikes. Marlin chieto Er

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Speaker 8: a UFC decision win, no. One's sort of been outstruck

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Speaker 9: You know, I thought Rob Font obviously did.

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Speaker 8: A lot of good work, but in real time, like

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Speaker 8: and obviously the shell, the Jose Aldo shell is legendary,

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Speaker 8: you know, Cheeto defensively very sound. You know, I do

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Speaker 8: against some liked Cheeto vera. I mean, what do you

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Speaker 8: think of Rob Font's overall approach to be you know,

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Speaker 8: triple digit strike attempts? Like, right, He's going over one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I thought it was impressive his numbers, his

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Speaker 2: He was mixing things up. I would have liked to

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Speaker 2: I would have liked to see Rob maybe throw a

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Speaker 2: I think the only thing I would have seen from

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Speaker 2: mixing up the full mixed martial arts arsenal of trying

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Speaker 2: to take Cheeto down. Getting top position. Because Rob's got

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Speaker 2: some phenomenal grounded pound doesn't mean he has to exchange,

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Speaker 2: you know, jiu jitsu techniques necessarily get position, get your posture,

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I would have liked to see that a little bit

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Speaker 2: he was landing a lot of those strikes again, as

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Speaker 8: I did think this was a good spot to back

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Speaker 2: Fun you bring up a good point. It's way easier, right,

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Speaker 2: That a lot of times is enough fuel to surpass

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Speaker 8: And Tyson Chardier. Chartier could text me later that you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm out of my skull piece. But you know, Marlon

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Speaker 8: Sheido Vera obviously should be the focus here. I want

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Speaker 8: always bet on Cardio shirts already, like I would never

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, yeah, No, I think I think there's definitely something

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 8: It stands to reason that he lost rounds one and

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Speaker 9: But I don't know, man.

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Speaker 8: I think in certain matchups you got to be careful

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Speaker 2: There's no question about it, because if Rob wasn't making

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make him any more, you know, less impressive.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, Funk did land a lot of clean

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Speaker 8: Really just incredible. There's so much to talk about with

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Speaker 8: I mean, Kenny, you and I obviously go way back

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Speaker 9: Man. You know, he has so many different.

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Speaker 2: His focus is impressive. I mean you could see it

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Speaker 8: All right, well, congratulations to Marlon Cheeto Vera and the

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Speaker 8: al Jamaine Sterling is the undisputed champion of this division.

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Speaker 8: He was in the building not totally out of the

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Speaker 8: it'll be a main event. So you have Aljamaine Sterling,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you want to get predictive or

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Speaker 2: I love this division. I love watching these guys are

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Speaker 2: so damn technical and they go for the finish. So

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Speaker 2: I guess you know, for the title I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 2: seeing Aldo and Aljo going going at it. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I would think that the UFC might

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Speaker 2: be leaning in that direction. Who knows, but I would

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Speaker 2: love to see that fight. Now. As far as Cheato Vera,

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Speaker 2: two lanky killers, Corey Sinhagen, Cheeto Vera's.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Might say in Boston,

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Speaker 8: that makes a fucking shit ton of sense. He macked

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Speaker 8: up stan Hagen and Cheeto Vera. And it'll be interesting

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Speaker 8: to see what they do with Domina Cruz. You know,

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Speaker 8: it seems like there are some rumblings that a fight

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Speaker 8: with uh morob Dwallish Willie could materialize, but who knows.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's a lot of different considerations for this

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Speaker 8: SPANDAM weight division. Seemed as though TJ. Dillashaw might have

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Speaker 8: the inside track on a title fight. Josealdo, the King

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Speaker 8: of Rio has now gone public proclaiming that, you know,

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Speaker 8: he's been offered that fight.

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Speaker 9: So we'll see what they do. Aljo was looking Dick

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Speaker 9: Octa on side, I'll tell you that, and I don't

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Speaker 9: mean fat. I don't mean fat. Getting's a little fucking

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Speaker 9: backyard shed like a little Latifi all right, comin event

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Speaker 9: ken flow and again if we missed anything on Cheeto

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Speaker 9: and rob font uh except our apologies at Annik Florian

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Speaker 9: pod Oh man, I'm not gonna throw the word robbery

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Speaker 9: out there because Andre Arlovsky lives like five minutes down

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Speaker 9: the road and might fucking come get me. But I

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Speaker 9: really feel bad for Jake Collier because for the rest

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Speaker 9: of us life, he's gonna have to look at a

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Speaker 9: red stripe on his Wikipedia page that says he lost

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Speaker 9: to Andrea Alovsky. And you know, according to me and

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Speaker 9: Andrea Lovskiy's head coach, Mike Brown, you know, Jake Callier

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Speaker 9: won that fight, and you know this would have been

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Speaker 9: a life slash career changing win for the father of

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Speaker 9: three boys, Jake Collier, and I feel for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, you know it's funny my my father

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Speaker 2: in law rarely text me about fights, and I actually

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Speaker 2: had to watch the fights a little bit later, and

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Speaker 2: he he text me, what a robbery you know, so

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Speaker 2: big shout out to Big Rick.

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Speaker 8: But he thought that call youer by the way, you

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Speaker 8: will fuck you up, Rick Gilmer will fucking destroy you anyway.

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Speaker 8: He's maybe he'll like that. But and doctor Gus, you're

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Speaker 8: still the top seed, so you know right, Yeah, man, listen,

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Speaker 8: this was a tough one.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, right because Arlovsky's a guy who's been around forever,

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Speaker 2: uh and he's such a legend, and he's still in

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Speaker 2: this still hungry, still fighting hard. But yeah, I thought

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Speaker 2: Collier was going to get the nod man, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What was everyone's reaction in the in the arena when

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Speaker 2: that happened?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think it was the loudest the apex had

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Speaker 8: ever been in my mind for a single fighter. So

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Speaker 8: it was team Arlovsky in there and Cody. Perhaps you

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Speaker 8: can go to the UFC News Twitter feed, if you'd

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Speaker 8: be so kind and pull up which judges had that

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Speaker 8: fight for Andre Rolovsky, and maybe if the round by

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Speaker 8: round can be offered up to us, that would be great,

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Speaker 8: because I believe the dissenting judge had at thirty to

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Speaker 8: twenty seven for j Collier, which I think you could argue.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Mike Brown has heard audibly on the broadcast

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Speaker 8: saying Kenny that, and I think you guys might have

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Speaker 8: been in commercial break if I'm not mistaken, but said

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Speaker 8: he said he was caught and Mike picked him up

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Speaker 8: saying he thought he had his guy. Rolovsky lost the

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Speaker 8: first two rounds. No, I mean it was a competitive fight.

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Speaker 8: It was back and forth. You know, people are criticizing

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Speaker 8: me for calling it a war. Maybe that was a

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Speaker 8: little bit too strong. I was fucking entertained. But no,

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Speaker 8: I mean I thought Jake Callier strategically fought the right fight,

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Speaker 8: you know. I thought he landed the more damaging strikes

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Speaker 8: with elbows and knees. I thought he had a lot

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Speaker 8: of good Clint situations. And yeah, I don't know, I

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Speaker 8: guess I just feel like he's call your I mean,

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Speaker 8: don't let his frame fool you, don't let his body

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Speaker 8: fat percentage fool you. Like he has put in an

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Speaker 8: insane amount of work. And I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 8: like it's I don't know. It just doesn't sit well

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Speaker 8: with me. You know, when you get the biggest fight

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Speaker 8: of your career, you go win it, according to I

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Speaker 8: don't know, I don't know. It's just I'm I'm a

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Speaker 8: little sour about this, all right. Mike Bell thirty to

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Speaker 8: twenty seven for Jake Callier, Douglas Crosby twenty nine to

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Speaker 8: twenty eight. Arlovsky gave browns two and three to Pitbull

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Speaker 8: and Sal Diamato, who I think is the best judge

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Speaker 8: in the business.

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Speaker 9: Gave two and three to Arlovsky. So there you have it.

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Speaker 9: Kindflow is what it is. I'll have to talk to

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Speaker 9: me all about.

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Speaker 2: That, all right.

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Speaker 8: Joe Anderson Brito, if you saw the knockout against Andre Fiel,

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Speaker 8: you know this is a tough setback for Andre Feeley,

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Speaker 8: but very big moment for Joe Anderson Brito.

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Speaker 9: Grant Dawson and Jared Gordon. Did you see that fight?

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Speaker 2: By chance?

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Speaker 9: I did?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's hard to change camps and.

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Speaker 8: To produce right away, you know, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 8: know how many weeks, six or seven weeks, maybe the

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Speaker 8: grand Dawson had an American top team in South Florida.

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Speaker 8: Florida sort of left Glory MM and Fitness unceremoniously. But man,

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Speaker 8: Grant Dawson is I agree with him, like he's the

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Speaker 8: lightweight that needs a little bit more respect on his name.

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Speaker 2: He did great, you know. I think that's where I

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Speaker 2: thought he was going to get the better of Gordon.

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Speaker 2: You know, Gordon's so tough, and he's he's very consistent,

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Speaker 2: He's good all all the way around. I just thought

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Speaker 2: Dawson's athleticism was going to give him an edge, and

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Speaker 2: he was clearly the faster guy out there, and he

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Speaker 2: was cleaner on the ground as well. Jared tends to

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Speaker 2: give his back some times during fights, unfortunately, and and

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Speaker 2: that's where Grant really took advantage. And he did a

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Speaker 2: good job of mixing things up with his strikes. You know,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't singular, you know, minded in just trying to

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Speaker 2: go for the choke orjustling for ground palties, mixing things up,

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Speaker 2: keeping Jared guessing, and ultimately got that root naked choke,

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Speaker 2: you know, for the win at the end of that

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Speaker 2: round there. So yeah, good, you know, good win for Grant.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think this is gonna give him a

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Speaker 2: lot of momentum and a lot of confidence in his

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Speaker 2: camp and his team and his approach. Uh So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a pretty solid win.

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Speaker 8: So when you're training for al Jermaine Sterling, or you're

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Speaker 8: training for Damian Maya, or you're training for Kenny Florey,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of that training camp is super fucking annoying, right,

563
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Speaker 8: having ideally Brazilian jiu jitsu black belts operating off of

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Speaker 8: your back, and then right you get them off your

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Speaker 8: back and then you assume the bad position again. I

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Speaker 8: hear coach Nick Lentz in sort of a simple way

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Speaker 8: say to Jared, just if he takes you down, just

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Speaker 8: don't let him get on your back. So when a

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Speaker 8: whole training camp essentially is rooted and not letting the

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Speaker 8: elite back taker take your back, and then your coach

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Speaker 8: says if he takes you down to so Jared acknowledged

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Speaker 8: the mistake publicly. But why why is that so much

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Speaker 8: easier said than done?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think there's this idea, and this is

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Speaker 2: this is what you're kind of dealing with. You're dealing

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Speaker 2: with a dilemma in that in going to your back

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Speaker 2: or you know, I mean getting to your back, going

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Speaker 2: to your guard position, you don't allow them to take

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Speaker 2: your back, right, you have that, you have that floor

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Speaker 2: behind you. But now you're dealing with someone putting pressure

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Speaker 2: and weight on you and risking grounded pound and losing

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Speaker 2: the round. And there's always that what if, well, what

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Speaker 2: if I just get back to my feet. What if

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Speaker 2: I scrambled to my feet real quick and I turned

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Speaker 2: my back for just a second.

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Speaker 9: He's on the bright right right, So.

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Speaker 2: That that's what kept happening he was turning away, but

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Speaker 2: he didn't have that cage behind him. He was turning

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Speaker 2: into space in the middle of the octagon, which allowed

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Speaker 2: Grant to transition to his back. So that's where the

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Speaker 2: mistake was happening. And I think he was he didn't

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Speaker 2: want to lose that round. He wanted to scramble back

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Speaker 2: to his feet, and he was hoping that Grant wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be as quick as he was. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: kind of where where that tactic failed. And obviously kudos

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Speaker 2: to Grant for taking advantage of it, but it was tough.

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Speaker 2: That was a That was a tough loss for Jared Man,

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Speaker 2: a great guy, and.

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Speaker 9: I really like seeing, excuse the voice crack, Grant Dawson

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Speaker 9: at one hundred and fifty five pounds. Man, you know,

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Speaker 9: former featherweight, you know used to deal with that awful cut.

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Speaker 9: And I do think Grant Dawson's going to get a

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Speaker 9: top fifteen opponent, but this was a good test for

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Speaker 9: him to pass against definitel Garrett Gordon. All right, so

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Speaker 9: you got the cap slice of the PROVI your neck tie,

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Speaker 9: spinning backfist. There are tons of ways to come out

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Speaker 4: Now time for the Ray Longo minutes. I'm going a

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Speaker 6: And this what you man? You came out guns blazing.

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Speaker 9: You just a lot of recreation fucking coffee in my system.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: I loved good, good, good good. Who had who will

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Speaker 6: go over the picks? Who did I pick last week? Oh?

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Speaker 9: I haven't the faintest idea it was a Cheeto?

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Speaker 2: Were you leaning towards Cheeto?

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Speaker 6: No? I took Cheeto. What's the matter with you guys?

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Speaker 6: You have a short memory? Right? No?

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Speaker 8: I mean I think I have to have a selective memory.

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Speaker 8: I just you know, I just got thirty fighters coming

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Speaker 8: up this weekend. You know, only so much room up there, right?

651
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 6: I know?

652
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 9: Side I believe?

653
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 6: Is that right?

654
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 9: Ken Flory sir, Yeah.

655
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 6: I'll tell you. But Rob fump Man, what a what

656
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 6: a first round? He had beautiful boxing.

657
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, every round was great. He just was

658
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: getting caught at the end.

659
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 6: It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred. What do you have?

660
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 6: Those Boston guys are just tough as ship though. Man,

661
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 6: holy crap. Yeah, that whole team is they gotta be

662
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 6: the tough his team around.

663
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 9: Yeah. What were your thoughts overall just on the main event?

664
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 8: I don't know if you have anything for us on

665
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 8: the font weight miss if you think that was a

666
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 8: factor at all, what do you got for us?

667
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 6: You know, I mean it was it's just a I

668
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 6: don't know if it was a factor, but it's just

669
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 6: a very bad look at this stage of the game,

670
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 6: and nothing more than that kind of kind of ruins

671
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 6: the fight.

672
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 9: For me, to be honest with you, Well, right, I

673
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 9: mean like there was a window there where it's like, oh,

674
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 9: is he gonna get medically cleared? You can you imagine

675
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 9: the main event goes away and then it becomes a disaster,

676
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 9: you know. I guess we were just sort of wondering aloud,

677
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 9: like you know, you never really know, right, I've certainly

678
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 9: seen fighters struggle far more on the scale. He came

679
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 9: in well before eleven am local time. The weight wasn't

680
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 9: coming off, But you know, we're not going to hook

681
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 9: people up to a lot of detector to see if

682
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 9: this was sort of a decision that was made to

683
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 9: just stop cutting weight to try to you know, benefit

684
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 9: the tank or the perform Rmans on Saturday night. I

685
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 9: just don't know.

686
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 8: I had just asked off the top of the show, like, hey, man,

687
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 8: if font has a real tough cut and he cuts

688
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 8: two and a half more pounds, does one of those

689
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 8: Cheeto shots actually remove him from consciousness and get him

690
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 8: out of there?

691
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 9: I don't know.

692
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's a good question.

693
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 9: But what about Cheeto man? I mean, what about cheto?

694
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 9: What do you have for us on Cheeto man?

695
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 6: He's just you know, look, he's he's a scrappy guy.

696
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 6: He's he's got a great gas tank. He can he

697
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: definitely he's got to set a whiskers on him, and

698
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 6: he's willing to take a couple to get what he

699
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 6: wants to get eventually. And he you know, he's got

700
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 6: a variety of attacks that he could get you with.

701
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 6: Nothing tremendous, but enough to you know do exactly what

702
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: he did, and he wasn't going anywhere. He was having fun.

703
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 6: You could see was in the moment. Even when he

704
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 6: was out of the moment, he was in the moment.

705
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 6: And rob Font you know, I think it started looking

706
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 6: like a guy swimming without a life preserver. You just

707
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: knew he was gonna drowned eventually. You know, it just

708
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 6: looked comfortable he and he was doing good. But you know,

709
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 6: when you're piecing the guy up like that and he's

710
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 6: laughing at you doing that stuff, it could it could

711
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 6: take its toll on you. So I think, you know, Cheetos,

712
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 6: he's a dog man. You're gonna have to really get

713
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 6: him out of there or he's gonna be in your

714
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: face for the whole twenty five minutes.

715
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 9: You know, Cheeto's a pretty big bandam weight. He's been

716
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 9: working with perfecting athletes forever, and it just takes everything

717
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 9: about this fight game so seriously, he's so obsessed with

718
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 9: every little detail, and I think it really shows, you know,

719
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 9: it's really crazy. We're not so much, I guess, but

720
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 9: the fact that he's out a championship trajectory, and of

721
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 9: course you got the guy who has the belt so,

722
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 9: you know, it's interesting to see Aljo and Morob obviously

723
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 9: octagon side and watching all of this, and dude, Banham

724
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 9: weight is just on fire right now.

725
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 6: Oh no, it's what a great division at first first

726
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: six or seven guys? Man is every one of those

727
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 6: combinations is a great fight, every one of them.

728
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 9: So what do you think is gonna happen with al

729
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 9: Jamaine Sterling?

730
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 6: Right?

731
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 9: It seemed like TJ. Dillashaw was going to be the guy.

732
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 8: Then Jose Aldo goes public sort of suggesting that maybe

733
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 8: he's been offered the fight. I'm not looking for breaking news,

734
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 8: but you have two guys in the top six, including

735
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 8: the champion. I'm curious what you think is going to happen,

736
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 8: you know, with al Jamaine Sterling and Morob Dwallas Willie.

737
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 6: Uh. I really thought the Cruz Morob fight was a

738
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 6: done deal. I mean I said that a couple of

739
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 6: weeks ago because Morob told me that. Okay, and you're

740
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 6: you're telling me no, But I thought that was the fight.

741
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 6: That's all right, don't say you don't have to say

742
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not attacking you, just you know, I

743
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 6: really thought that was a done deal.

744
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 9: But I I'm long obviously maybe it is. Maybe my

745
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 9: information isn't good. No, no, I it's been bandied about.

746
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 9: I I don't know.

747
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: I mean it was bandied about, you know, three weeks ago.

748
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 6: Last time I saw morob at Aljia's fight, he told

749
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 6: me that.

750
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 9: So, all right, so your guy wants that fight.

751
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 6: HEROB couldn't care who, he doesn't care who. He'll take

752
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 6: any he doesn't care. He's no, he's not calling anybody out.

753
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: He's not looking for it just right. He just wants

754
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 6: a date and he wants to go in and fight.

755
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: That's his mentality.

756
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 8: And what about al Joe if you had a best

757
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 8: guess as to who they're going to give him, I mean,

758
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 8: Henry sudo is not going to come in and get

759
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 8: a title fight, is he?

760
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 6: No? I don't. I don't believe he will.

761
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 7: No.

762
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 6: I thought, you know, so when he called out Della Show,

763
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: I thought that was going to be the fight that

764
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 6: I know nothing at all about.

765
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 9: You don't know if Dylans Shaw's healthy or I mean,

766
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 9: we still don't know, yeah right.

767
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 6: Now now zero. It just seem like the way that

768
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 6: whole thing went down, I thought even Dana alluded to

769
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 6: that would be the fight, But I feel like, again,

770
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 6: I don't know anything about.

771
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 9: That because I just I don't know. I feel like

772
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 9: and I don't know.

773
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 8: Cody is a guy who spends a lot of time

774
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 8: with al Jo doing his weekly podcast. I just feel like,

775
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 8: if al Joe could get back, he's got a lot

776
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 8: of momentum right now. I mean, everybody wants a piece

777
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 8: of al Joe, you know. I think I'm doing a

778
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 8: DraftKings shoot with him next week for UFC two seventy

779
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 8: for fans bobbing him like, I think fighting the next

780
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 8: three months as opposed to the next nine months waiting

781
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 8: for TJ. Dillashaw would be useful for your guy. It's

782
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 8: sort of what I'm getting at, you know, like this

783
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 8: division is on fire. Let's keep this fucking thing going,

784
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 8: you know. Yeah.

785
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 6: No, Look, I well, he made it pretty clear at

786
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 6: the press conference and everything, or at the after the fight,

787
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 6: at the scrum whatever they call it, that he wanted

788
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 6: to take some time off. So I don't think he's

789
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 6: fighting within three months, you know what I mean. I

790
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 6: could see five months. Probably nine months is a little long,

791
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 6: but uh, he's.

792
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 9: Saying temper for al Jiam.

793
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: Most likely say yeah, I would think, so something like that.

794
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 9: Very interesting stuff.

795
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 8: All right, I want to get some stuff out of

796
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 8: you on UFC two seventy four, unless there was anything

797
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 8: else we talked about Jake Collier and Andrea Orlovski. I

798
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 8: really thought call youer won that fight. I mean, I

799
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 8: have buckets of respect for Andre, but I felt like, Caul,

800
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 8: you really deserved better.

801
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 9: You got anything on that.

802
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 6: I thought that was an easy fight. The School for Kylia.

803
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you're doing okay on this Sunday morning.

804
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 6: Pump me up, do something.

805
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, we're obviously we're going to be on opposite

806
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 8: sides of this, you know, Cruise Dwallish Willie situation, Adams

807
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 8: and we'll argue off the air, you know.

808
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 9: But I sense a little bit of negative energy from you.

809
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 6: So today, you know, no, I don't know you get

810
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 6: you're getting me self conscious like you always do. You're

811
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 6: bullying me.

812
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 9: Well you still haven't gotten that haircut. But people get

813
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 9: so upset when I talk about anything but mixed martial

814
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 9: arts on here. Gotta be here.

815
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 6: I know, I know it's supposed to be tonight, but

816
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 6: I don't think that's happening either.

817
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 9: So we'll see, all right.

818
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 8: So big gun Brian Petrie is going to come on

819
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 8: and make picks here shortly, but I just want to

820
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 8: get a few thoughts from you, Raymond on this championship

821
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 8: fight Cod coming up at UFC two seventy four and Phoenix, Arizona,

822
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 8: Tony Fergus and Michael Chandler.

823
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 9: Chamler's four to one favorite.

824
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going with Chandler on that you give what do.

825
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 9: You expect from Tony? Can't flow save your fucking bullets.

826
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 6: Bro Uh. Honestly, I just hope he's okay. That's That's

827
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 6: what I'm hoping for, Just that he's we see something

828
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 6: of the old form out of him, and he seems

829
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 6: like he's in a better spot than he's been in

830
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 6: the last bunch of fights. But you know, we'll see.

831
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 6: I think things get harder as you get older, So

832
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 6: he's got a big mountain to climb.

833
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 9: Guy won twelve straight fights at one hundred and fifty

834
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 9: five pounds in the UFC. If that doesn't get you

835
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame, I just don't know what

836
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 9: exactly you need to do. Rose Dama Unison, Carla Asparza.

837
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 9: I will admit to being a little bit surprised at

838
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 9: the betting line here. Asparsa obviously is on an absolute tear,

839
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 9: but I thought Rose would be closer to a three

840
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 9: to one favorite. She's about minus one seventy five or so.

841
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 9: What do you think about that fight?

842
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 6: Uh? I think Rose gets it done. I think that

843
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 6: that line is based on this spars Is wrestling and

844
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: that she'll be able to get it to the floor

845
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 6: over and over again. But uh, yeah, I think that that.

846
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: I don't think it's gonna be an easy fight. I

847
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 6: think that fight is going to be tougher than you think.

848
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm not suggesting, I'm just talking about.

849
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 6: I mean three three to one is a noticeable, that's

850
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 6: a sizeable, like you're guaranteed to win almost you know.

851
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, the minus sixty is a threshold where, yeah, you

852
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 8: feel pretty good about it. Yeah, no, I guess I

853
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 8: just I write down what I think the betting line

854
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 8: is going to be before I take a look.

855
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 9: And I was way off on that. Oh, I take

856
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 9: it for what it's worth. And then Charles Oliver and

857
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 9: Justin Gaetchee Will made a selection on that as well.

858
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 6: Wow, well, I you know, I got to go with

859
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 6: Olive Air on that. I think it's his time. Like

860
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 6: he handled Michael Chandler pretty good. I think that's a

861
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: similar and that's a gauging point. But obviously on the floor,

862
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 6: I think there's gonna be a wide discrepancy, and I

863
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 6: think Oliver Ara looks he's been looking really really sharp

864
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 6: on his feet, and uh, I think the I gotta

865
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 6: lean towards Oliver Air on that. But you know, you know, Gate,

866
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 6: you could get you out of there at any point

867
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 6: in time, man, and you know he could break you

868
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 6: down too. But I think, uh, I think Olavaria gets

869
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: it done. I think he's been the more active guy too,

870
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 6: and taking less damage. I think that what was his

871
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 6: last fight with Chandler when they just went bizarrely on

872
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 6: each other. Yeah, yeah, that shit starts to chip away

873
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 6: at you too eventually. Yeah, so we'll see.

874
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 9: You know, maybe Aljamain Sterling at Madison Square Garden in November,

875
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 9: that would be a good spot for him. Wow, take

876
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 9: back to that Nassau Coliseum, you know.

877
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 6: Oh, I'd love to get back to the Colisee and

878
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 6: that would be that's his hometown, that would be that

879
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: would be a dream come true.

880
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 9: All right.

881
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 8: That Ray Longo mma at Anti Florian Pod if you

882
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 8: would like to chime in on what the bet will be.

883
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 8: If Domina Cruz and Morob Dwallas, will he share the

884
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 8: octagon Ray and I will do a bet. Wow, maybe

885
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 8: you'll shave your head if dom wins, and if Morob wins,

886
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 8: I'll get like a Georgian flag tattooed or something.

887
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 9: We'll figure out.

888
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 6: Kenny, you're actually you're actually going to side with Cruz?

889
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 9: Who Kenny or me?

890
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 6: No?

891
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: You all right?

892
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 8: So I feel I'm talking about this off the air,

893
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 8: didn't intend to do it on the air, but I

894
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 8: feel very conflicted in all this business because, uh, I

895
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 8: don't know that Alja has ever had a bigger supporter

896
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 8: than me throughout his UFC career. I have so much

897
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 8: love for Rob that I and Black tattooed on me anyway.

898
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 8: But you know, other than Ken Flow, you know, like

899
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 8: if if Don was fighting Kenny, I'd probably rut for Kenny.

900
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 8: But other than that, that's it is one of my

901
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 8: best friends.

902
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 6: In the world. So basically it is you want to

903
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 6: Kenny what Morob is dal Joe?

904
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 9: Right, Well, I don't know if Kenny, I'm not even

905
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 9: gonna complete what is But no, but like, if I

906
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 9: have an MMA fight at one hundred and twenty five pounds,

907
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 9: ken flowing, don both me and my fucking maybe a

908
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 9: longo too, we'll see.

909
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 6: Wow.

910
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 9: Would you corner me?

911
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 6: Ray?

912
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 9: No, you want to corner my twin brothers?

913
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 6: Can you see this? Three? Yeah? Three three champs?

914
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: I know? Is I know?

915
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 9: I mean put them in the goddamn Hall of Fame.

916
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 9: The artwork with you with the crossed arms.

917
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 6: That was cool. Yeah, that's a shout out to Loretta

918
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 6: and Anthony the lemmy who's making his pro debut on

919
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 6: May twentieth, the fight you were supposed to go to

920
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 6: but you can't. A shout out to them to They

921
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: gave me an early birthday, very early birthday.

922
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 9: Anthony and Steve are both making their.

923
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Al Joe's brother, Oh wow, Oh this is

924
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 6: a big this is John. This is the event you

925
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 6: should be No, it should be. Yeah.

926
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 9: Well, let me talk to Kaitlyn, Viaida and Holly Hollm

927
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 9: and see if they mind if I step away. I'm

928
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 9: sure they they.

929
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 6: They're not gonna come on at all.

930
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 9: Hey, one more thing, Yes, please.

931
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 6: Shout out to the Chicken Pound Baby for your anniversary.

932
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: Call it on the great job.

933
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 6: You guys are missing out. I want you guys on

934
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 6: the Chicken Pound band wig And by next.

935
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: Week I got Chicken Pound. I got some chicken. They

936
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: sent me something awesome. How was it great?

937
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 6: There you go, It's fantastic.

938
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Now let's go, Yeah, let's go.

939
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 9: So I think sponsor of the Ray Longo minute is that?

940
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 9: Is that my initiative to get that done? As you

941
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 9: sort of alluded to on social media, to get that

942
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 9: Chicken Pound sponsorship?

943
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 6: Do? I mean? I talked to Cody, so obviously he's

944
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 6: not the guy to get it done. So who I

945
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 6: got to go up there? You can just keep going

946
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 6: up in Aladdin until you hit somebody.

947
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 9: That's right, and ken Flus at the top of the

948
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 9: food chain, and they're already chicken There you go.

949
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 6: At the top of the food chain.

950
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 8: All right, So when will we see you again on

951
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 8: the UFC road? Not for a while, I guess, right,

952
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 8: not for a while?

953
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, A couple of surprises coming up, A

954
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 6: couple of surprises coming up in the summer, though I'm

955
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: not at liberty to say.

956
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 9: Hey, well, a lot of people we were trying to

957
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 9: figure out a nickname for long ago. I know the

958
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 9: Godfather was submitted. That's okay, but a little bit sort

959
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 9: of overplayed.

960
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

961
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 9: Another one that was pretty good, that's escaping me safe

962
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 9: was the General, So that's taken. There was one great nickname.

963
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 8: I'm hoping Cody'll fired it in the chat before I

964
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 8: get you off the air, but it doesn't look like

965
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 8: that's gonna happen anything else before we let your fly, Raymond.

966
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 6: I think that's it.

967
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 9: Guys, all well, we appreciate it. Uh, in my face,

968
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 9: I don't.

969
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm not letting you wait. I tell you.

970
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: You know, people think I attack him, Kenny. I you know,

971
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 6: I think it's a long island thing. We just attack

972
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 6: everybody and we don't realize it. You know what I mean.

973
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: It's I love the guy. I don't know I can

974
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 6: say it.

975
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 9: And uh, you know, if people want to think I'm sensitive,

976
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 9: then that's fine. You know.

977
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: But John, your ROMs like that, they're almost instigating. It's

978
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 6: like like a gang sign. Yeah, it's like you get

979
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: that Riker's island a lot when he wants to shank you.

980
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 9: Yeah. Psychotherapist by.

981
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 8: Man, all right, my brother Will, it's great to see

982
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 8: you as always, and uh, we will talk to you

983
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 8: next Monday. Next Monday, Ken Flow is gonna do the

984
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 8: whole ring long a minute. I'm just gonna sit back.

985
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 6: So really, you're gonna let me let me date your boyfriend.

986
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 9: I'm surprised that, Yeah, you can haze him for the

987
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 9: lack of pointed questions on a Sunday.

988
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: All you got?

989
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 9: You gonna talk about your fucking daughter again?

990
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 6: You know? All right, guys, you're right, I'm bailing out.

991
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 9: I half wanted to be here today. Every week, I

992
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 9: know it's like ship for the three hundred and forty

993
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 9: seventh straight week. I gotta fucking go on with those guys.

994
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 9: Hey me an average of like three dollars and fifty

995
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 9: cents an episode over the seven year lifetime of the show.

996
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 8: All right you f C two seventy four Olavera versus

997
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 8: Gaechee Footprint Center, Phoenix, Arizona, Saturday, May seventh, live on

998
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 8: pay per view.

999
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 9: We got some picks to make. We're calling in the

1000
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 9: big guns. Let's get to the main event challenge.

1001
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge.

1002
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: Time is most definitely how do you everything box?

1003
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 4: Will to win?

1004
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: It's the main event challenge.

1005
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: And Kenyan Podcast, Yes, sir, gone, Bryan.

1006
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 9: Takes Podcast. That's right T shirt? Thank your T shirt?

1007
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 9: You got Value Boys T shirts?

1008
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 6: I do.

1009
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: I think I have one coming to you in the

1010
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: mail there, sir.

1011
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 9: The man Kemplo got you last week on the Picks?

1012
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 9: Is that correct?

1013
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: He got me? He got me with the Dawson Gordon Reid.

1014
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: It was nice. It was nice on him.

1015
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 10: I went, I went to heavy Underdogs and Gordon and

1016
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 10: Jared Murscar didn't pay out for me, but I switched

1017
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 10: to Cheeto because of the weight cut.

1018
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: I made that official on the Cody got me on

1019
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: the yep so and.

1020
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 10: Cheeto bailed me out. I hit some nice little props,

1021
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 10: which isn't really my strong suit. So I'm up sixty

1022
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 10: five bucks.

1023
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 4: So we're gonna count it. No bed frame, no fridge,

1024
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: We're counting absolutely.

1025
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 9: I do need to ask your thoughts because of my

1026
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 9: own personal curiosity on Rob Font and Cheeto Bear, there

1027
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 9: is certainly a lot to unpack and that made event.

1028
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what the fuck is Chito made of?

1029
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 10: I mean, Jesus, I mean he took two hundred shots

1030
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 10: and a mark on him and he landed some big

1031
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 10: shots on Fun, Fun, Fun, great, fuff landed over two

1032
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 10: on the strikes. The problem was is you guys mentioned earlier,

1033
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 10: he just kept getting hurt and Cheeto. That's what Cheeto does, mate,

1034
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 10: is you know. I think the one big weapon of

1035
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 10: him is his eyes, is his visuals. He can cover up,

1036
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 10: he can show up, take some good shots, take stuff

1037
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 10: on the elbow, and he reads you. And he's got

1038
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 10: dangerous kicks. That that freaking Sean Michaels goddamn sweet chim

1039
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 10: music put him down.

1040
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: I thought that was it.

1041
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 10: I thought that was a rap than the knee, and

1042
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 10: then that left hand was active all night. I mean,

1043
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 10: he's a beautiful performance by Cheeto. It's a guy that

1044
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 10: ever since before the O'Malley fight, I definitely slept on.

1045
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 10: I'm like, he's a good guy, but how good is he?

1046
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 10: And then he just walked through O'Malley, who I have

1047
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 10: really high regard for, and I'm.

1048
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 4: Like, oh, this dude's a fucking gee.

1049
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 6: I like this guy.

1050
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but props the fun I mean font's I mean,

1051
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: he could have walked out of there, he could have quit.

1052
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: It looked like he had two broken water budules. The

1053
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: guy's tough as nails. It was very competitive.

1054
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 10: It just came down to him getting hurt at the

1055
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 10: end those rounds, and you gotta think maybe, if you

1056
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 10: know the way cut had an issue with that, maybe

1057
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 10: he came with an injury. There's a lot of question marks,

1058
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 10: and uh, usually waycuts don't scare me off of bets.

1059
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 10: But when he slipped on the scale and he looked

1060
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 10: kind of shaky at the stair downs, that's when I'm like,

1061
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 10: I gotta get off this guy.

1062
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 4: I think something was going on. I don't know if

1063
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: you ever come out and say it, but didn't look

1064
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: good but good for cheating?

1065
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: Is that the first miss for font at thirty five?

1066
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 6: Yes?

1067
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1068
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 8: It is interesting when you talk about all the strikes

1069
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 8: being landed because I don't know the true accuracy of

1070
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 8: those numbers. All I know is that it's a human

1071
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 8: being calling them out, uh, calling them out as a

1072
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 8: broadcaster and the person who's counting them, you know. So

1073
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 8: it's like, yeah, you could go back and watch it,

1074
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 8: but I don't know. I think I'm more inclined sometimes

1075
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 8: as a play by play guy to call it as

1076
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 8: a land than a block. And you try to watch

1077
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 8: it as closely as you can. But all right, let's

1078
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 8: move it forward. Fellas first fight for us today. One

1079
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 8: of my favorites on what is now a fifteen fight card,

1080
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 8: Chaos Williams minus one thirty five. Rude Boy Randy Brown

1081
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 8: is plus one fifteen. And I think both of these guys,

1082
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 8: to my eyes, are better than even you think they are,

1083
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 8: Like they really are players. Brown's one four of five

1084
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 8: coming into his own and Chaos at twenty eight. Prie

1085
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 8: is just an absolute force. Very curious to see on

1086
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 8: which side you're gonna fall?

1087
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 9: Who do you have here? Chaos Williams and Ready Brown

1088
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 9: banger alert.

1089
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 4: Way to start off the pick'em's here. I mean the

1090
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: guy's names Chaos. I don't know that's legally if he

1091
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: legally changed his name, but we're off to a goddamn

1092
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 4: good start. I thought he falls short in THEFC.

1093
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 10: I remember him coming in and he's a Michigan guys

1094
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 10: who's a little north of me, and I remember kind

1095
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 10: of looking up at him and seeing and I just thought,

1096
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 10: you know, he's a little.

1097
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: Stick very powerful, but his striking wasn't super fluid. His

1098
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 4: kicks were very like rigid.

1099
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 10: Obviously he has tons of power, but gosh, that power

1100
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 10: is something else. I mean, his cardio checks out. He's

1101
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 10: physically big, but I just didn't know how we would

1102
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 10: stack up. So I was kind of dead wrong because

1103
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 10: he's looked pretty good besides that one, that one missing

1104
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 10: the UFC, which was a competitive fight over Michelle Peira.

1105
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: And the ruleboard. Brown is a guy who's been up

1106
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 4: and down the UFC.

1107
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 10: You know, he's had nick UFC career choppy, but he's

1108
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 10: huge for one seventy and the biggest issue with him,

1109
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 10: I think is two things. I think it's this confidence

1110
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 10: number one and a little bit of a chin issue

1111
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 10: as well. You know, he's been knocked out a few times.

1112
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 10: I think that maybe was a drastic weight cut the

1113
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 10: seventy because he's a big guy. I think he'll probably

1114
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 10: finish his career eighty five. But he's thirty one now,

1115
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 10: looks like he's kind of got everything dialed in, and

1116
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 10: he looks so good against Jaron Gooden last time out

1117
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 10: Night Train, which won the all time great nicknames.

1118
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 4: But he was styling on him, you know what I mean.

1119
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 4: He was shuffling his feet, thrown kicked, he that broke

1120
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: his foot. His dad was in the audience for the

1121
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: first time and he looked good.

1122
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 10: This could be Chaos taking another head, or this could

1123
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 10: be Randy Brown fighting smart because I think he has

1124
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 10: the advantage on the ground. We haven't really seen Chaos

1125
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 10: off his back. I think Randy Brown has some tricky

1126
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 10: He's a black bet. I know there's some tricky armlocks,

1127
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 10: decent little chokes as well. So I'm gonna go Rubey

1128
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 10: because he's the underdog and also because I think he's

1129
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 10: the more round the guy. But I wouldn't be surprised

1130
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 10: if Cas just takes his head clean off because Brown

1131
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 10: has been knocked out.

1132
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: Official pick is Randy Brown by submission.

1133
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 8: Randy Brown by submission for Brian Petrie ken Flow. I'm

1134
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 8: glad I don't have to make a selection.

1135
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: You do.

1136
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 9: Who do you have?

1137
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 6: This is?

1138
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a great fight. You know, I

1139
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: kind of have the same assessment that Brian does. I

1140
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: think Chaos is very dangerous. All it takes is one shot.

1141
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: But I still think, you know, while he has, you know,

1142
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 2: gotten better as a striker, I still think he still

1143
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: think he's a little tight and tends to load up

1144
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: and telegraph what he's doing. I think Randy Brown is

1145
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: definitely taking the approach of he wants to be a

1146
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: great mixed martial artist. He's trying to be better in

1147
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: all areas. You could see that he seems way more focused.

1148
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: He seems way more comfortable in the octagon now, and

1149
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: I think he's streaking at the right time. I like

1150
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: Randy Brown here as well. I think his length and

1151
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: I think his MMA IQ is gonna be the difference here.

1152
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he gets to finish. Can he Absolutely,

1153
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: He's got to avoid those big bombs. But I think

1154
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Randy Brown, rude boy, gets it done.

1155
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 9: Beautiful pronunciation, nailed guy, not guy, very interesting. I think

1156
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 9: Chaos Williams might might surprise you guys a little bit.

1157
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: That To pick a pick from John j Yep, Yeah.

1158
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 8: I love Randy Brown though he's probably my favorite New

1159
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 8: Yorker on the roster. Like Cody Wright, Zannik needs a

1160
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 8: long Goo Wideman MMA tattoo, like I'm gonna get a

1161
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 8: New York Gym tattoo logo.

1162
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 9: On my body.

1163
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 8: I mean fucking no, all right, at lightweight, we're gonna

1164
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 8: have Ken Flidas off here. Donald Cowboys Seroni minus one seventy,

1165
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 8: Joe Lo's on is plus one fifty. Very interesting fight

1166
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 8: here between two UFC veterans. Thirty eighth UFC Star for Serrone,

1167
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 8: whose last win came against raging Ally quint all the

1168
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 8: way back in May of twenty nineteen. He is thirty

1169
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 8: nine years of age. On the other side, Joe Loson fights,

1170
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 8: you know, on an average of once every couple of

1171
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 8: years right now. As some of you know, he headlined

1172
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 8: against Kenny Floury and all the way back in two

1173
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 8: thousand and eight and got fucking destroyed, is what my

1174
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 8: script says.

1175
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 9: He did what and Flow?

1176
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 8: I mean, there's some people who are new listeners who

1177
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 8: maybe don't know about you. You can go to UFC

1178
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 8: fight pass dot com and google UFC Fight and I Broomfield,

1179
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 8: Colorado at Altitude Ken Flow and Joe los On, and

1180
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 8: Joe finally took the ice off his forehead last weekend.

1181
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 9: All right, sorry, but Loson's still going strong. It's now

1182
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 9: twenty twenty two and if this before our fighter meeting.

1183
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: He's good going to kill you.

1184
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 8: So his last appearance though, was like a high quality

1185
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 8: win Kenny and a stoppage of Jonathan Pierce JSP, who

1186
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 8: looks fucking awesome since, But that was almost three years ago.

1187
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 8: So what are your thoughts los On Seroni Seroni the favor?

1188
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is interesting man. You know, obviously both these

1189
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: guys at the tail end of their careers, right. You know,

1190
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't think Serroni's won to fight since May twenty nineteen,

1191
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's been a little while. Good to see

1192
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Joe get back on track. It's fascinating also because Serroni, again,

1193
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: I'm just everybody kind of knows this tends to be

1194
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: a slow starter. Joe Loson tends to be a fast starter,

1195
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: likes to get right after it, and I think that's

1196
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: his best chance here against Serroni is go right after him,

1197
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: look for that takedown, look for those crazy flurries early on,

1198
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: and try to take him out early. That tends to

1199
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: be what Lezun does anyway, and I think that's where

1200
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: Serroni really needs to be careful here. Wouldn't be surprised

1201
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: if Loson gets it done. You know, in round one,

1202
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: Serni tends to make adjustments a little bit later. Once

1203
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: he gets in his rhythm. Watch out. Serronie puts together

1204
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: beautiful combinations when he's in his rhythm, when he's able

1205
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: to stop takedowns. He you know, kind of builds his

1206
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: confidence from there. Uh So I'm curious to see how

1207
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: it goes. Both guys have been in some crazy fight,

1208
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: Serroony more so and los On has been in a

1209
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: lot of wars. But Serrony, of course, has been in

1210
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: all the wars. So you know, I don't know how

1211
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: much damage these guys can take. If it comes down

1212
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: to that, maybe Loson can take more. I don't know.

1213
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: Uh So this is a tricky one for me, but

1214
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go the way of Joe los On. I

1215
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: think he gets it done, maybe by t KO, maybe

1216
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: by submission early.

1217
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 6: Uh.

1218
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: If not, would be surprised if Serni, you know, get

1219
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: to win by stoppage himself, maybe with the TKO on

1220
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: the feet or something. But uh, let's go Joe los

1221
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: On uh here against SERRONI all right.

1222
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 9: Can flow likes the dog Joe Loson plus one fifty

1223
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 9: Briy what he have, sir?

1224
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 4: I felt like just a fan again just watching Kenny

1225
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: absolutely destroy that break down there. Wait to go Ken,

1226
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 4: Uh listen, uh the legend legends of.

1227
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: Division, this is what fight is.

1228
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 10: There's there's been talked about the legends of engines. I

1229
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 10: would love to see Ken flo hopping the legends and

1230
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 10: take a fucking neck home with them one more time.

1231
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 8: Kenny Kenny was born in nineteen eighty four instead of

1232
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 8: the year he was born.

1233
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 9: Not gonna stay. But you know, because like even lows

1234
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 9: On like you're a lot, yeah, a lot, you know.

1235
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1236
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 9: Anyway, Kenny's like thanks, We're all thanks.

1237
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 4: I still think Kenny get done.

1238
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 10: And it's kind of odd to look at Cowboys record

1239
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 10: and see all this red because the guy was, you know,

1240
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 10: he's high profile fighting, he's and he's.

1241
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: Had a crazy skid. Five losses, four of him come

1242
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 4: by finish, which is a big yeah. Yeah, iikes.

1243
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 10: The Morona fight was the one that kind of shocked me.

1244
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 10: I had him in the Morono fight. No disrespect Ax Morono,

1245
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 10: but Cowboy does not want to be there.

1246
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: He looked.

1247
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 10: I know, he's a slow start. I know he's has

1248
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 10: overcome some nervousness before fights. He's talked about it, which

1249
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 10: I think is great, the mental health side of things,

1250
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 10: which is an awesome thing to talk about.

1251
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: But he's not he wanted to be there.

1252
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 4: Joe Lozi the Pride of Rocks and Mass. This Tues

1253
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: debut came against Jens Polver lat them made me go

1254
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: absolutely ape shit in my room, flip my bed of

1255
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 4: or couldn't believe it because I had Jens Pulver in

1256
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 4: very high regard and then obviously in one of Kenny's

1257
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 4: former victims. I don't want to talk about that.

1258
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 10: John already covered that, but his inconsistency has been the

1259
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 10: biggest problem with los On. He's probably the longest tenor

1260
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 10: guy at tenored guy at the UFC that hasn't had

1261
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 10: a title shot because.

1262
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: He wins a big one, then he loses a big one.

1263
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 10: But he's coming off a huge winner for johnthan Pierce,

1264
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 10: who hasn't lost the UFC since and has looked amazing.

1265
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 10: I was back in twenty nineteen, we all thought maybe

1266
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 10: he's gonna retire.

1267
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 9: He's not.

1268
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 10: You know, he just kind of gave a speech and

1269
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 10: left it open, and I think it's winnable for both guys.

1270
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 10: I think, obviously Cowboy needs to stay at range, throw

1271
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 10: his kicks los On little high kicks.

1272
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: In the past.

1273
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 10: Los On, like Kenny mentioned, just he blitzes for you.

1274
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 10: He's a one round fighter, I think at this point,

1275
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 10: and I don't mean that in disrespect.

1276
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: He can swarm you. He can get on top of

1277
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: you after that first round, it's gonna be a little

1278
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: bit of an issue. I think this is a great

1279
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: live betting spot here because I think Cowboy the long

1280
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: of the fight goes. I do think he's gonna take over,

1281
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: but we've seen Cowboy get put out in the first

1282
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,479
Speaker 4: round pretty quick.

1283
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 10: Slow startervers fast starter. You're giving me a dog. I'm

1284
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 10: taking lows on by Ko.

1285
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 9: All right, both guys aligned at least through a couple

1286
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 9: of fights.

1287
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: We move along now.

1288
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 8: Also on pay per view had light heavyweight rematch between

1289
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 8: OVI and Saint Prue minus two forty and Mauricio Shogun,

1290
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 8: who a plus one ninety five bride. We will go

1291
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 8: right back to you on this one. First meeting went

1292
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 8: to Saint Prue. Your thoughts on Showgun? Here is the

1293
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 8: dog in the rematch.

1294
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 10: The single best editing job anyone's ever done is when

1295
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 10: they threw that skateboard in there. That's the funniest, absolute gold.

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Speaker 10: I can't believe Showgun's forty, guys. I mean, he must

1297
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Speaker 10: have been fighting in probably when he was what twelve

1298
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 10: thirteen years old. I mean, you feel like this guy's

1299
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 10: been around forever.

1300
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: He had a nice little run there.

1301
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 10: You know, between twenty sixteen two and twenty he was

1302
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 10: beating some guys, but you know, the competition was kind

1303
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 10: of catered to him a little bit. You know, that's

1304
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 10: no disrespect He'd have a good a couple of good

1305
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 10: wins in there, but you know, there's no disrespecting Showgun

1306
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 10: on my watch. I want to keep this short and sweet.

1307
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 10: I think OSP's gonna get this done. He's popped up

1308
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 10: the heavyweight, a huge guy. I think he needs to

1309
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 10: get some juice back here. And you know, with two

1310
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 10: back and back losses here, so I like l spback.

1311
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 10: Don't know what's gonna happen in the first round, but

1312
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 10: I like lspbacko Ken Flow.

1313
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 9: Showgun is a man. He's forty.

1314
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 8: Last appearance December excuse me, November of twenty twenty, UFC

1315
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 8: two fifty five. He was stopped by Paul Barre Juw

1316
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 8: Kraaig there. It is still about an eighteen month layoff

1317
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 8: for Showgun. Your thoughts on him here against Saint.

1318
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: Prue John, You are right. Showgun is a man. He

1319
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: is that last time I checked. Yeah, he just listen, dude,

1320
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: He's he's such a legend again. I always go back

1321
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: to two thousand and five, where I was at peak

1322
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: showgun fanboy level. You know, everything he was doing and

1323
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: pride and getting a chance to meet him and train

1324
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: with him and his brother was so cool. So's everything

1325
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, everything and everything about it. Yeah, it was.

1326
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: It was nice, good legs. He he's he's been around

1327
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: a long time, man, you know. I was excited, and

1328
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: then I realize, oh, wait a second, shown has been

1329
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: finding a really long time. I hope that it's something

1330
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: where you know, he feels good physically, mentally, spiritually, where

1331
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: he's like, no, I want to go back there. I

1332
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: want to beat this dude who knocked me out. I

1333
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: hope that's the case. I assume that's the case. You know,

1334
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: is his body healthy after a training camp and all

1335
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 2: that stuff? I don't know. I hope he's taking maybe

1336
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: a smarter approach to his training camp. And OSP is

1337
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, he's he's always been dangerous.

1338
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've ever been on the OSP train

1339
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: necessarily just because of his inconsistency. Even within rounds. I

1340
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: feel like he'll do some amazing stuff and he'll do

1341
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: some like stuff that could really get him hurt badly.

1342
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure he is necessarily hungry at this

1343
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: stage of his career. I think he might be competing

1344
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: to get a check. I don't I hope that's not

1345
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: the case, because physically he's very talented, but technically, I'm

1346
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: not sure he really came around the way I thought

1347
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: he was going to. Yeah, I think that's fair, and

1348
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's an interesting fight, but you know, I

1349
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: think OSP has the advantage here, you know, for Showgun.

1350
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: You know, I just think he's fought way too much

1351
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: and I think physically OSP is going to be better.

1352
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be more comfortable in that

1353
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: octagon at this stage. And you know, yeah, this is

1354
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: a tough one for me. I'm not sure I really

1355
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: want to see it.

1356
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 8: But let's go OSP here, and I think you may

1357
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 8: be onto something with Saint Prue, Like I think we'll

1358
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 8: be able to glean a lot from him during fight

1359
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 8: week in the fighter meeting in terms of where his

1360
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 8: hunger for the preparation is at, you know, right, because

1361
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 8: I just don't know that the championship hunger is there,

1362
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 8: and I hope to be wrong, you know, but fight

1363
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 8: week is a pretty wide lens into where these fighters

1364
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 8: are at in terms of the motivation and the preparation.

1365
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 8: All right, Michael Chandler minus four to ten in a

1366
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 8: featured light out here against Tony Ferguson, who comes back

1367
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Speaker 8: at plus three ten.

1368
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Speaker 9: You know, Ferguson's a legend in my mind. Anyone who's

1369
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 9: listened to this show knows that. I'll say it again.

1370
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 8: He won twelve straight fights at one hundred and fifty

1371
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 8: five pounds, still didn't fight for the undisputed title because

1372
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 8: of all these crazy circumstances. You know, I feel a

1373
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 8: kinship with Michael Chandler on the other side as well.

1374
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 8: I have a personal friendship with him, and you know,

1375
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 8: I know someone's gonna lose this fight. The odds makers

1376
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 8: suggest that it's gonna be Tony Ferguson Brye. His last

1377
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 8: win came against Donald Cerni. That was three years ago

1378
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 8: at UFC two thirty eight. Michael Chandler thirty six as

1379
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 8: of a couple of days ago. Busy first year in

1380
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 8: the UFC largely productive, but he has lost two in

1381
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 8: a row despite a lot of fanfare with his last fight.

1382
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts here, Briy we will lead with

1383
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 8: you on this one. Tony Ferguson plus three to ten

1384
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 8: Michael Chandler minus four to ten.

1385
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 10: I mean it's a dream fight for a lot of

1386
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 10: MMA fans right now. I mean this is I mean,

1387
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 10: everyone has a circle this fire to night.

1388
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: No way, no way.

1389
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 10: I'll bet my house is not gonna be a boring fight.

1390
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 10: But here's the here's the brutal truth. Right Chandler has

1391
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 10: more skins flat out.

1392
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: He just does.

1393
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: Tony has been exposed in the grappling. My opinion has

1394
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: passed two times out and there's something that he was

1395
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: really relying on and heavy on. You know, no one

1396
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 4: can take me down. That's a direct quote from him

1397
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 4: working with Eddie Broby and everything.

1398
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 10: But channel he's a dust off, that d one Singlet

1399
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 10: I love the go to wars with Michael Chandler's or

1400
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 10: Michael Chandler justin gage Yea. I love the wars, but

1401
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 10: we need to start winning fights. If if you're Michael Chandler,

1402
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, we need to start getting

1403
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 10: the fights one.

1404
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 4: And I think he can do that.

1405
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 10: He mixes up, he's got great leg kicks. I mean, people,

1406
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 10: that's something really big in his game and the organization.

1407
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 10: He mixes up his strikes to well. He wrestles, but

1408
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 10: not too much because he has a tendency to slow

1409
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 10: down and that's the one thing that's not going away

1410
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 10: with Tony.

1411
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 4: Tony's not slowing down now.

1412
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 10: I never thought to be talking about Tony Fergus on

1413
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 10: a three fight looting street because, like John mentioned earlier,

1414
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 10: he was on a twelve fight winning streak for a.

1415
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: One period of time.

1416
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 10: But again, gonna be brutal, honest, and I don't you know,

1417
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 10: I am willing to say this to Tony Fergus's face,

1418
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 10: no matter what the outcome may be. But I don't

1419
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 10: love his postfight's comments, after his after he's lost. I

1420
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 10: think there's been some built in excuses. I think he's

1421
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 10: training with some guys that are probably he leads the

1422
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 10: training camp. He does what he wants to do, and

1423
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 10: I know he's left some coaches in the past, and

1424
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 10: I just think he needs a coach to sit him

1425
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 10: down and say, hey, listen, let's put the fucking baseball down,

1426
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 10: let's take the glasses off, and.

1427
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 4: Let's get the work here.

1428
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 10: Because you know, the wrestling has been exposed to neileda

1429
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 10: but he's not like he's losing the scrub.

1430
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: So don't get me wrong, he's losing the high level guys.

1431
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 4: But I just don't love the way he's approached it now.

1432
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 10: He's been a little quiet. I've scrubbed the social media.

1433
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 10: I you know, you have to decipher his texting or

1434
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 10: his tweets because they're not in English, really, but I

1435
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 10: just don't like his mental coming in this fight. And

1436
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 10: I just don't know if he's changed enough. And I

1437
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 10: love Tony Fergus, and I wish he would have maybe

1438
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 10: not changed cans, but maybe change it.

1439
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: Maybe he has. Maybe I'm completely speaking.

1440
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 10: Out of turn here, but I would love to take

1441
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 10: Tony at that number because I think, you know, he's

1442
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 10: willing to go in there and he's willing to die.

1443
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 10: And there few fighters are, but Michael Chandler has all

1444
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 10: the tools to win here. I think he puts on

1445
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 10: a good display. I think he's gonna fight smart. I

1446
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 10: think he's gonna come out rest a little bit because

1447
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 10: the game plans there. I like Chandler by decision here,

1448
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 10: even though it's a it's a pretty big number.

1449
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 9: Ken Full I mentioned like with a guy like ovin

1450
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 9: Sant Prue. I'll probably be able to extract some things

1451
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 9: out of him. With Ferguson, I'm not so sure.

1452
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 8: You know, you might get out of that fighter meeting

1453
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 8: and not even know exactly who his primary coaches or

1454
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 8: training partners were. But I just hope that he sort

1455
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 8: of showcases himself, well, win or lose.

1456
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts?

1457
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, man. Brilliant stuff there from Brian Petrie.

1458
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: But Michael Chandler's not fighting smart.

1459
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 11: Come on, he doesn't. He's come on, man, he had

1460
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 11: he had the opportunity to do that in the first

1461
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 11: three fights. I don't know, I think I keep thinking

1462
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 11: that too. You know, I thought that for the first

1463
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 11: three fights. You know, listen, Chandler, he's been around. He

1464
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 11: wants to be a champ here. He's gonna take the

1465
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 11: approach like what was he doing in the Charles oliververfight?

1466
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 11: What was he followed him on the grind like, come on, man?

1467
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: And then you know, seeing some of his comments on

1468
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: Twitter and stuff, and how he you know, he really

1469
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: loves just going out there to deliver fights for the fans,

1470
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: which is cool. That's uh, and that's that's his goal.

1471
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: You just can't expect to win fights that way every

1472
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: single time out, and we're seeing a skid because of it.

1473
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: But I do think this is one of those fights

1474
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: where potentially he could take that approach and still win

1475
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: this fight. Why because Tony Ferguson isn't what he used

1476
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: to be. He doesn't have the same kind of chin

1477
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: and like you know, terminator to walk through everything that's

1478
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 2: thrown your way and then just destroy you. So yeah,

1479
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: so I like despight. I think Chandler wins this as well.

1480
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: I think there's some value on Tony here, I think.

1481
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: But you know, both these guys have been in so

1482
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: many crazy fights at this point, so and and both

1483
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: kind of tend to just throw the dice when they fight.

1484
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't see that necessarily changing here for Chandler. But

1485
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: I just think Chandler is more powerful. I think he's faster.

1486
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: I think he's a phenomenal athlete. You know, both guys

1487
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: as mentally tough as they come, both studs, you know,

1488
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame type careers. So I like this fight.

1489
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: I think there's a fight that makes sense. Yeah, but really,

1490
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: if we're looking at this fight, it's like who's taken

1491
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: more damage, Who's gonna fight smarter, which makes it tricky.

1492
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: But I think Chandler here as well.

1493
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 9: You think he knocks him out.

1494
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't think, you know, I don't think he

1495
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: knocks him out cold. If he wins, maybe TKO, you know,

1496
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: something like that.

1497
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 8: But yeah, all right, Cole main event. I'm curious to

1498
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 8: hear the handicap here straweight title fight. Rosanama Unis minus

1499
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 8: one ninety five on DraftKings Sportsbook right now, Carla as

1500
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 8: Barza plus one sixty five. Asparza has really earned this

1501
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 8: chance to become a two time UFC Straweight champion. It's

1502
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 8: very hard to win five straight fights at one hundred

1503
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 8: and fifteen pounds in the UFC. She beat Vina Jangidoba,

1504
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 8: Alexa Grosso, Michelle Waterson, Marina Hadriguez, and then stop Jan

1505
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 8: shaw Nan about a year ago, that was May of

1506
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 8: twenty twenty one. Kind of bided her time. Finally we're

1507
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 8: ordered with the title shot.

1508
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 7: Now.

1509
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 8: The first time these two fought, it was for the

1510
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 8: inaugural Strawway title. It was twenty fourteen, it was the

1511
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 8: year in which this division was introduced in the UFC,

1512
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 8: and Noma Yunis was two and one as a pro

1513
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: she was twenty two years old. Now she's a twenty

1514
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 8: nine year old world beater, future Hall of Famer, and

1515
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 8: yet the price is only minus one ninety five. Now,

1516
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 8: perhaps there's some big gap in MMA wrestling that I

1517
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 8: am missing here. This is not prediction time for me.

1518
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 8: I'm just surprised at the number. Brian, your thoughts on

1519
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 8: the Straway Championship fight and ultimately how you see a

1520
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 8: plan out?

1521
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 10: First off, Cody, if we can get like the NBA jams,

1522
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 10: he's on fire. On Kenny's little window here that the

1523
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 10: guy is on fire today.

1524
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: He's trying to soften me up. Hold on, let me

1525
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: stretch it out here. Boys.

1526
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 4: All right, listen, John, you can't be further uh more?

1527
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 6: Right?

1528
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 4: Excuse me? You're right.

1529
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 10: I think Carla is one of the most disrespected fighters

1530
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 10: in the division, and I thought we were going to

1531
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 10: get a huge number on her. This is the toughest

1532
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 10: fight for me to predict on the car I love

1533
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 10: this fight. I hold both female fighters in really high regard.

1534
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 10: Carlo's an og. She's fucking beating everyone.

1535
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: I know.

1536
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 4: A lot of these are close. She's been an underdog,

1537
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 4: dalling a lot. She's been very friendly to my wallet.

1538
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 4: And Rose is just an adorable, sweet, smart, talented killer

1539
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: in there, and it's nice. She's a good face for

1540
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 4: the division. Now, both these girls have fought.

1541
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 10: To who's who, and I really did think we're gonna

1542
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 10: get Carla north of two hundred plus one sixty five.

1543
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 10: Scares me a little bit because it's the value there.

1544
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 10: It might gonn be a value boy. But Rose wanted

1545
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 10: this fight, which I love. There's a lot of rumors

1546
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 10: after the Way Lee rematch that Carla wasn't gonna get it,

1547
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 10: and Rose was like, no, no, no, this is why

1548
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 10: I want because she beat it.

1549
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 4: That's a competitive edge. I love that shit. She got

1550
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 4: me back in twenty fourteen. Let me get this back.

1551
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 4: Now that I'm champ, I'm now a round A fighter.

1552
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: But Rose hasn't really fought anybody on her record that

1553
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 4: fights like Carla. Carla is a good wrestler, good grappler.

1554
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 4: We saw Rose grapple Waylee in the rematch very close.

1555
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 4: Rose has jujitsu. The only person you can compare to

1556
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 4: is Onroge. In the first fight, she got on her head,

1557
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 4: so we didn't really get to see much. In the

1558
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 4: second fight, they stood up a whole time, and it

1559
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: was an arguably very very close fight. Carla, I think

1560
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 4: she's training smart, she's you know, I think she had

1561
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 4: a little couple blips early in her career. The Reno

1562
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 4: Marcus fight is a very ugly loss forer. But other

1563
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 4: than that, right now, this current win streak is super impressive.

1564
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 4: And I'm so torn on this fight because I like

1565
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 4: Rose a lot Ray.

1566
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 10: Personally everything I addressed earlier, but Carla is a dog

1567
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 10: and she matches up really well Rose, and I think

1568
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 10: there's two tales of this fight. I'm gonna break it

1569
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 10: down as simply as I can.

1570
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: Rose is a better striker. Carla knows that.

1571
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 10: I think Rose thinks that her jiu jitsu is gonna

1572
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 10: be okay off her back, because she does have very

1573
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 10: good jiu jitsu. I don't know if she can win

1574
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 10: the fight off her back. I don't know if she

1575
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 10: can catch anything on Carla. So with that being said,

1576
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 10: and New Boys give me call her by decision.

1577
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 9: Whoo yeah gun.

1578
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 8: Brian Petrie likes Carla Asparza to become a two time

1579
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 8: you have strawweight champion.

1580
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 4: All I wish I get a juicer price.

1581
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 8: Can quote Brian mentioned that Rose Namayunis had a healthy

1582
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 8: appetite for this fight and kind of called her shot

1583
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 8: as the champion wanting this matchup.

1584
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1585
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 8: Part of that is the revenge factor, but I also

1586
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 8: think she likes the matchup. What are your thoughts on

1587
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 8: the matchup that Brian does not believe is super favorable

1588
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 8: for the incumbent champion?

1589
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 2: Get rid of the big gun, Give me big chills.

1590
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: That was nice.

1591
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 6: I like it. I like it.

1592
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm even more excited about this fight after hearing that.

1593
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: And I know exactly why Brian is going that way,

1594
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 2: because guess what. I don't think Rose is gonna be

1595
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: able to get up off of her back, and I

1596
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: don't think Carla throws herself off position that much. Once

1597
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: she settles into a guard like, you know, in the transition,

1598
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: that's where she has to be careful. That's where Rose

1599
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: is most dangerous, you know, transition in between positions. But

1600
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: once they settle into position, Carla is going to keep

1601
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 2: you on your back and she's gonna beat you up,

1602
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: and she's gonna chip away and be annoying and be frustrating,

1603
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: and that is very tiring on you. Can't you do

1604
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: it consistently I don't know the problem is is Carla, uh,

1605
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, is still very rough when it comes to

1606
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: the stand up game. You know, she makes a lot

1607
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: of mistakes there. She's very vulnerable there. But there's no

1608
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: question that she can win this fight. So I totally

1609
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: see it. I think there's value there. I just think

1610
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: Rose is gonna be a little smarter this time around.

1611
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: Of course, I remember, did we call the first fight

1612
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: between as spar asan ed Rose?

1613
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, when we.

1614
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 8: Were much closer to our primes, much fucking better looking. Yeah,

1615
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 8: you know, twenty three year old girls. Not that they

1616
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 8: were looking at me in twenty fourteen, but they're really

1617
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 8: not fucking looking at me now?

1618
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 9: You know the check you?

1619
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, I got real quick.

1620
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 10: I gotta tell you this because when my wife met

1621
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 10: you at Columbus, she would have killed me if I

1622
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 10: told you some person back in twenty thirteen when we

1623
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 10: got together, you did an interview. She goes, too's that

1624
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 10: guy in the cage? I go, oh, the fighter, And

1625
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 10: I started breaking no nother guy interviewing him. I was like, Oh,

1626
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 10: that's John and he's super hot.

1627
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 9: So I still got it.

1628
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 8: Yes, there's a there's a market for the the my

1629
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 8: daughter now says like, wow, you you have like a

1630
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 8: hook nose. You look like you have like a witch nose. Daddy,

1631
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 8: thanks honey, because my nose never stops growing.

1632
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 2: Very honest. U. Yeah, I'm going Rose, dude. I'm going

1633
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: with Rose now. Unis. I think she gets it done.

1634
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I'm a little nervous about it. I'm

1635
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: a little nervous outside of Yeah, but I think Rose Rose.

1636
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: I think it would be too her advantage to try

1637
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: to finish this one. I think if it goes to decision,

1638
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be tricky.

1639
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, alright.

1640
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 8: Main event for the undisputed UFC Lightweight Championship. Charles Olivera

1641
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 8: one of the greatest fighters in UFC history in terms

1642
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 8: of what he's put on paper. Minus one sixty five

1643
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 8: here the favorite in what I believe is his second

1644
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 8: title defense. Again, it's the plus one forty five Safford,

1645
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 8: Arizona native Justin Gaichee. I believe this arena is about

1646
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 8: one hundred and sixty five miles from where Gaichie went

1647
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 8: to high school.

1648
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 9: It's gonna have a lot of the crowd behind him.

1649
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 8: You would think Olavera's got a pretty good American fan

1650
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 8: base as well, though Briy, especially given all of his

1651
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,440
Speaker 8: recent success. We need a prediction on the UFZ Lightweight Championship.

1652
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: Who do you have?

1653
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: Okay, say oh oh bo over the top, move like

1654
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 4: Stallan and over the top. I gotta get prepared because

1655
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 4: full disclosure, I don't even know who I'm picking. I'm

1656
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 4: just gonna break it down and I'm gonna see where

1657
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: it goes. This fight has given me goosebumps since it's

1658
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 4: been announced. I mean literally the nuts in the bolts

1659
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 4: of the fight.

1660
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 10: Of the simplest terms is Geegee has the power advantage

1661
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 10: on paper and Oliver Area definitely has the ground advantage.

1662
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 4: That's what you think. I think Gaigie got exposed by

1663
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 4: Kabeebe and that scares me.

1664
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 10: Kabebe is great on the ground and Kabebe's the goat, right,

1665
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 10: so it's really hard to say you got exposed when

1666
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 10: you go to the Kabeb. But we've never releasing Gage

1667
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 10: get taken down. We never released him get held down,

1668
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 10: and when he did, he gave up a triangle fairly easily.

1669
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 10: And that kind of scares me because Olivera's got a

1670
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 10: whole mantle at home. Full of arms, necks, and legs.

1671
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 10: So if this goes to the ground, this is a problem.

1672
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 10: The big knock on Olivera and those knocks were coming

1673
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 10: from me because I picked against him his last two

1674
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 10: fights was oh, you know, he doesn't you know, he

1675
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 10: quits and he's not tough, and you know, because we've

1676
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 10: seen him in the past or whatever that was fucking

1677
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 10: forever ago.

1678
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 4: He's on a ten fight win streak. Asshole, wake up.

1679
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 4: This guy is legit and he's arguably proved it. I mean,

1680
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: I mean he has proved him.

1681
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 10: Michael Chandler fight. That was a close ten eight round.

1682
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 10: Michael Chandler all over him, didn't fight smarts fight. Olvera

1683
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 10: comes back, knocks Mount Pourier, one of the best finishers

1684
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 10: in the vision, boxes him up in that first round,

1685
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 10: comes back.

1686
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 4: And submits him.

1687
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 10: Alvaria's well, do you remember back when he was fighting,

1688
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 10: he was bagging it to go to forty five. Every

1689
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 10: time he fought at fifty five, he's like, you know, see,

1690
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 10: let me go back to forty five. It's like, dude, no,

1691
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 10: you're killing that fifty five. Couldn't make forty five. He

1692
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 10: has filled out, he has bricked up. I've been following him.

1693
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 10: He's been in America for a while and he looks good.

1694
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 10: But I love me some justin Gaigee. I love me

1695
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 10: some justin Gaigie. Pure fine violence man.

1696
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 4: But he is a smart guy.

1697
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 10: If you go back to to Ferguson fight Genie's game plan,

1698
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 10: no one has seen anyone do that to Tony. And

1699
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 10: I'm a huge Trevor Whitman guy.

1700
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 4: If I was not a lazy, fat capper and fifteen

1701
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 4: years younger, I moved to Colorado and sleep outside of

1702
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 4: Trevor Whitman's gym until he let me in.

1703
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 10: I mean, that's what I would do because I think

1704
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 10: this guy, he's the coach. I would want his style.

1705
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 10: Everything's about that. So justin Fighting Home, which Cody and

1706
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 10: I were texting, Cody thinks it could be sorry to exposeure.

1707
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 10: Cody could thinks that it might be a hinders fighting

1708
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 10: in Arizona. You know, I know it's not directly in

1709
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 10: his hometown, but he's got fans there and.

1710
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 4: Then the old era.

1711
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 10: You know, he's playing to my game. He said, Hey,

1712
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 10: I'm gonna stand up with Gaiche, you know, going to

1713
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 10: the ground. I can stand up with this guy. He's

1714
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 10: stand up with his past two opponents, why not. Obviously

1715
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 10: he can't stand up with Gatechie Gae Che has the power,

1716
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 10: and I think Oliver has a little bit cleaner striking

1717
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 10: as more tools.

1718
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 4: Kate Je has good leg kicks, good hooks, and is aggressive,

1719
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 4: but Geigee looks super lean to me too, So that

1720
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 4: means to tell me he's wrestling. And I play a

1721
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 4: game with my kids. It's called the Floor's lava, and

1722
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 4: Justin the floor's lava, my friend, do not fucking go

1723
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 4: near the floor. And with that being said and new again,

1724
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: give me Gage. Be not happy about it, but I

1725
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 4: did it.

1726
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 8: Don't call him only Veda our producer Cody. I wish

1727
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 8: I could fire Cody for calling him only Veda, but

1728
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 8: he's too good and I need.

1729
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: Him to.

1730
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 9: Ken blow.

1731
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 8: I understand why Brian maybe see some value on Justin

1732
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 8: Gage at plus one forty five. I don't have any

1733
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 8: idea who's going to win this fight, so maybe the

1734
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 8: dog makes some sense. But there's just no way that

1735
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 8: I would walk up to a window right now with

1736
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 8: my hotterned American dollars and bet against Charles olivera in

1737
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 8: current form.

1738
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 9: How do you see the main event plan of.

1739
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 2: I've studied, I've watched Tate, I've meditated on top of

1740
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: a mountain, and I still don't know. No, I mean

1741
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: I do know, I just I don't feel confident in

1742
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: it because now Geichee is an absolute killer. Oliver has uh,

1743
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 2: you know, all the skills in the world. I think,

1744
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: like Brian, you know, I think I doubted his heart

1745
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: a little bit, uh, maybe his chin. Uh that obviously

1746
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: has been put to bed. That he he is a

1747
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 2: complete different fighter. And for anyone who is a manager,

1748
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: a coach, or a fighter for that matter, who wants

1749
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: to learn like how to rebuild or actually how to

1750
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: build your career and take the right fights, you know,

1751
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: to give you, uh that path to a championship. Look

1752
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 2: at the look at the Charlie olives Uh, you know

1753
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: model Uh that's a beautiful blueprint. But you know, the

1754
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: way he has rebuilt himself is tremendous.

1755
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 6: Uh.

1756
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: He's the more skillful guy. I think he has more

1757
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: ways to win by finish than gai Chi. Gai Chie's

1758
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: hooks are a problem. I think gai Chi uh goading

1759
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: you into exchanges in the pocket is a big time problem.

1760
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: And I think that Charles is going to be too

1761
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: smart for that. I think he's gonna use a lot

1762
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 2: of his long range tools, his Muay Thai approach, and

1763
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: how he uses that lead leg and the roundhouse kick

1764
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: to keep you on the outside, and how he's able

1765
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: to get to the clinch now and actually be a

1766
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: threat from that over under position or from those double underhooks.

1767
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: I think he's just better everywhere, you know, and he

1768
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 2: can jump on your back at any at any point

1769
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: during that fight. So he gets you thinking about his

1770
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: striking and then he gets his grappling going. He gets

1771
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: you thinking about his grappling, and then he gets his

1772
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: striking going, and boy is he technical. Doesn't make a

1773
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: whole lot of mistakes these days. He's tough as hell.

1774
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: Gaechie scares me.

1775
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 6: You know.

1776
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: He's a guy that can knock knock you out for sure,

1777
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: and he has a knack for getting you to trade

1778
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: with him. But I don't I don't think Charles is

1779
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: gonna play that game. I like OLIVERI here as well,

1780
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: or actually, no, you went, you went with Getchee. I

1781
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: like Oliver here.

1782
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

1783
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if he gets a finish, but I

1784
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he gets the win by.

1785
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 8: Some All right, we have dissension on both title fights

1786
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 8: with Brian Petrie and Kenny Florian. For more content from

1787
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 8: VP throughout the week at MMA Takes Podcast. Shout out

1788
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 8: to Darren the dammage Elkins, by the way, forgotten to

1789
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 8: mention him couldn't finish the show. I mean, I remember I.

1790
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: Missed, I missed the fight.

1791
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 4: He wow, was so good, Kenny.

1792
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 2: Was it another Elkins like performance where he came back

1793
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: or no, he did not rally, right, he didn't have

1794
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: to rally. He just dominated the whole time.

1795
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was.

1796
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean Tristan Connelly showed up too, It was.

1797
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 10: It was it was more of an Elkins fight where

1798
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 10: Elkins didn't bleed till the third round, but it was

1799
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 10: it was more of like wrestling grappling scrambles.

1800
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 6: It was.

1801
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 4: It was a fun fight. It was a really good fight. Yeah.

1802
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 8: I remember, like four years ago somebody posted this and

1803
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 8: Kenny will probably recall this, you know, but it was like,

1804
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 8: here's a lie shot of Darren Elkins's brain and it

1805
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 8: was a bowl of pudding, right, and you know, look

1806
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 8: at him now though, man, you know it's like I

1807
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 8: know he's absorbed a lot of damage, no pun intended,

1808
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 8: but look at him four years later's still white fights.

1809
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 9: I tweeted.

1810
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 4: I tweeted out that he was the human Catcher's mitt

1811
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 4: just because the guy just takes a beat and he's

1812
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 4: just durable. He's there, He's gonna be there.

1813
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 9: For you, speaking to be in there for you. That's you, buddy.

1814
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 9: Appreciate you answering the bell on a Sunday, having a

1815
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 9: good work weekend. Uh, we will talk to you next

1816
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 9: week in advance of another UFC fight night. Man.

1817
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely, boys, my pleasure going big chill.

1818
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 9: Thank you Bryan Petrie with us for the main event challenge.

1819
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 9: All right, our final order of business. This guy's going

1820
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 9: to be coming with the heat today.

1821
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 8: I think for the varrow seconds. He's heard his name

1822
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 8: drops several times over the course of the show. A

1823
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 8: lot of people have taken shots at you, waywardly or

1824
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 8: otherwise today.

1825
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 6: So how are you?

1826
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: How are you?

1827
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 6: Cody? Oh?

1828
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 7: What? I just stepped awa every day?

1829
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 4: Miss something?

1830
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, change my shirt too. I mean I came here prepared.

1831
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 7: I had thrown on the bus by Ray and the

1832
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:04,759
Speaker 7: Chicken pound.

1833
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 9: I mean, come on, how you doing?

1834
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 7: I'm doing alright. I'm doing alright. How about you guys.

1835
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 7: You guys good, you guys prepared for Arizona dropping some

1836
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 7: breaking news. Blao, Mohammed's gonna be on the wig In

1837
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 7: Show on Friday. I mean, wow, doesn't get and you're

1838
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 7: gonna be with al Jo? I mean, where's my ticket?

1839
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 6: What the hell is this?

1840
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 9: Everyone's in the word say the word? Yeah the marrow

1841
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 9: seconds as we close out the program, what did we miss?

1842
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 9: Anything good on the way out?

1843
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 4: My man?

1844
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 7: So, just to put a bow on Kalier Rolovski, not

1845
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 7: a single submitted card on MMA decisions dot Com was

1846
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 7: for Arlovsky eighty percent of the fan vote, so everyone

1847
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 7: that wasn't related to Andrea Alovski or trains att was

1848
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 7: essentially voting that Kalier won that fight, which I thought,

1849
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 7: just watching that fight when you're showing how can you

1850
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 7: even justify showing clips of him when he's one hundred

1851
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 7: and eighty five pounds, like, yeah, the face looks the same,

1852
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,560
Speaker 7: but he looks like his younger brother or something like,

1853
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 7: they don't look like the same guy.

1854
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 9: Well, and he eats fairly cleanly too, don't There's no.

1855
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: Way that's true?

1856
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 7: Come on, there's no way that that is accurate if

1857
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 7: he eats cleanly, he eats cleanly for three people, because

1858
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 7: there's no way. But I thought he was impressed that.

1859
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 7: I thought he looked good. I mean, Alosky just keeps

1860
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 7: kicking though.

1861
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1862
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 7: So uh till Hermanson is slated for July twenty third,

1863
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 7: I believe that's official for London. That's a three rounder

1864
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 7: right place.

1865
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 2: He'll get on the.

1866
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 7: Horse under aspinall and Blades which Curtis Blade. I don't

1867
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 7: know if you guys saw that. Twitter was blowing up

1868
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 7: with Curtis Blades tweets last week.

1869
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why he was wild.

1870
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 7: So that's interesting. Still hasn't fount in the UK in three.

1871
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 9: Years since he got murked by moskital Is that right?

1872
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: I believe?

1873
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 7: So, yes, that's that's not exactly a nice way to

1874
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 7: put it, John.

1875
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 9: I love that, And so one of my favorite people

1876
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 9: in the sport hopefully is not listening to episode three

1877
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 9: forty seven.

1878
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 7: Well, so hopefully people watching remember the show. And if

1879
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 7: you didn't, last week, you missed Macy Barber announcing she's

1880
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 7: gonna fight Jessica I at UFC two to seventy six.

1881
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 7: I think it was like twenty minutes after they had

1882
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 7: officially announced it, so you get some breaking news there

1883
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 7: she stepping in for Casey O'Neil, who tore acl So

1884
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 7: you hate to see that out of a prospect, but

1885
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 7: that's hell of a fight.

1886
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 9: Yep.

1887
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 7: And also I think Cheeto watches because on remember the show,

1888
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 7: I said that at what point is durability not an ability?

1889
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 7: And Cheetoh went out and showed me that that doesn't

1890
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 7: exist for him. Durability is an ability for Cheeto vera.

1891
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 7: So thanks for Cheeto for watching the fight.

1892
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1893
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 8: Well, and by the way, I just want to ask that,

1894
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 8: you know, Dean Thomas did say on the broadcast that

1895
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 8: a good defense can beat a good offense and oftentimes

1896
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 8: will and I thought it was well put, you know,

1897
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 8: in terms of Cheeto sort of you know, weaponizing his

1898
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 8: defense in some way, shape or form.

1899
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 7: Well, I thought the quote he was looking for was

1900
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 7: the best offense is a good defense. Not I forget

1901
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 7: what he said, but it's a legen quote. I'm gonna

1902
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 7: skip around here just because of what you said. So

1903
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 7: another thing that Dean Thomas, So I was gonna say

1904
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 7: that tough season thirty starts may third if you're into that.

1905
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 7: But one thing that Dean Thomas did say in the

1906
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 7: post fight for ESPN about Charles Olivetta or Charles Olivera,

1907
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 7: I guess, as I have to say it to stay

1908
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 7: in this program, that the hard thing about Charles is

1909
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 7: that he does always get hit once, and the question

1910
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 7: is is against gaategee, can you afford to get hit once?

1911
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 7: I think that was a very aus stute point by Dean,

1912
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 7: even if his stylist wasn't very astute on the postfight shot.

1913
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 7: So I just want to make the case could close

1914
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 7: this out for Charles Olivera to be in the Hall

1915
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 7: of Fame, regardless of how the outcome comes next week.

1916
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 7: Most finishes in UFC history eighteen, Most submission wins in

1917
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 7: UFC history fifteen. He's second in total sub attempts with

1918
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 7: thirty eight, and number one the top that list is

1919
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 7: Jim Miller, who is still in the UFC rattling away

1920
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 7: submission attempts. He's tied for the first bonuses in the

1921
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 7: UFC with Donald Cerroni at eighteen, so very interesting. They're

1922
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 7: going to battle it out for a bonus this weekend,

1923
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 7: and he is one of only two fighters in UFC

1924
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 7: history with over half of their wins by submission fifty

1925
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 7: two or fifteen of twenty nine. The other one, do

1926
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 7: you do you want to venture a guess cap? Well, no,

1927
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 7: you just fought last week and gim three.

1928
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that makes me.

1929
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 7: And promises made, promises kept. Dustin Poier did promise to

1930
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 7: donate to help people in Charles Vea's favela or neighborhood

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Speaker 7: or whatever, so he did supply a twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 7: check last week to instead Tuto de Charles du Bronx.

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Speaker 9: Nice good stuff. Good on Dustin Pooria. That's a good

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Speaker 9: egg right there. And I will leave you with this, Kenny.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw this during the prelim

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Speaker 8: portion when Gifted Gabe Green beat Johann Lanis.

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Speaker 2: But not so.

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Speaker 9: Gabe Green.

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Speaker 8: Was basically legally blind for his whole career, and he

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Speaker 8: basically pulled out of a fight last October with Dwight

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Speaker 8: Grant in some part because he got this PRK procedure

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Speaker 8: doc on his eyes. You can't get LASIK and be

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Speaker 8: a fighter, but you can get PRK. I think maybe

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Speaker 8: it takes a little bit longer to heal. But so

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Speaker 8: Gabe Green said that he before this procedure, if you

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Speaker 8: threw car keys at him, not only would he not

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Speaker 8: catch them, he couldn't even recognize that they were car keys. Right,

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Speaker 8: So he said that his style as a pressure fighter

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Speaker 8: was in some part dictated by his lack of vision geez,

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Speaker 8: and he did look like a completely different fighter in

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Speaker 8: many respects. Obviously his strength and conditioning is a part

1952
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Speaker 8: of that too, But like you know, went in there

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty instead of twenty three hundred. You know, it's

1954
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Speaker 8: a big deal a lot of fighters. Billy Corntello getting

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Speaker 8: that PRK procedure might have been useful for Ken Flow

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Speaker 8: trying to sneak commy all right, if you want to

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Speaker 8: check out Kenflow's jiu jitsu tutorials, I strongly would recommend

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Speaker 8: that Kenny Floridmartial Arts dot com and a florianpodcast dot

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Speaker 8: We have special limited edition there for Phoenix, Arizona. You

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Speaker 8: can go to Millions dot COO. Thank you to our

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Speaker 8: guest long Ago and Brian Petrie. Thank you all for

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Speaker 8: tuning in. Kindly subscribe on YouTube, tell your friends and

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Speaker 8: we will talk to you next week as we recap

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Speaker 8: the monster that is UFC at two seventy four, with

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Speaker 8: that for our producer Cody Merrow, intern Will Berger, and

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Speaker 8: the great Kenny Floria and John As saying, so long

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Speaker 8: for now, We will see you next Sunday.

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Speaker 9: If not sooner, until then, yield later.

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Speaker 5: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 5: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

1972
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Speaker 5: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a

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Speaker 5: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that

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Speaker 5: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates

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Speaker 5: Jews in England.

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Speaker 2: He go to jail for that.

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Speaker 5: Here in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen

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