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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, an absolutely beautiful recent high

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Speaker 1: school graduate. Pam vanishes from her Houston apartment.

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Speaker 2: What vanishes?

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Speaker 1: And Toathan Air this after odd texts? I'm Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Twenty year old Shappammela Buckner, known as Pam by her friends,

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Speaker 3: as living in Houston, Texas with her boyfriend when she

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Speaker 3: suddenly disappears. Neighbors report a heated altercation the night she

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Speaker 1: Where is this gorgeous young girl, Pam Buckner joining me

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Speaker 1: in All Star panel? But first I want to go

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Speaker 1: out to two very special guests joining us, Monica Reeves

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Speaker 1: and Billy Reavis' cousin and uncle, to this beautiful young

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Speaker 2: But I'm not buying that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there are no magic tricks. She didn't just disappear

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Speaker 1: into thin air. First of all, to both of you,

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Speaker 4: Ms.

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Speaker 1: Monica Reevis, let me ask you this, what is meant

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Speaker 1: by odd texts?

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Speaker 2: Tell me about texts that seemed to.

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Speaker 5: Come from Pam.

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Speaker 6: She was texting her neighbor.

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Speaker 5: About something that was going on in her home.

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Speaker 6: And to call police.

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Speaker 1: And then after that, what happened Miss rievis she Manish

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Speaker 1: guys joining us an all star panel. This is a

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Speaker 1: beautiful young girl that grew up with the very tight

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Speaker 1: knit family and they want answers and do you blame them?

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Speaker 2: What happened? Listen? Do you guys believe that they harmed.

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Speaker 6: Shambla I do.

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Speaker 7: I'm more conclusion if we can come up with at

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Speaker 7: this point.

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Speaker 8: Schapamela Buckner twenty grows up in Houston. Chapamela is very

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Speaker 8: much in love with her boyfriend, with whom she shares

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Speaker 8: an apartment on Northboro Drive. However, with Chapamela's boyfriend serving

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Speaker 3: After reports of a disturbance the night before, Shapamela's landlord

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Speaker 3: Chapamela's door unlocked, so she calls Schapamela's emergency contact. Family

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Speaker 3: finds her phone, purse, ID and keys still inside. It's

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Speaker 3: very strange for Schapamelo to go anywhere without those items.

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Speaker 3: When several days have passed with no contact, She's reported

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Speaker 3: missing last scene at home the evening of March twenty First,

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Speaker 3: where is this beautiful girl?

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Speaker 1: A little of that that you just heard with from

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Speaker 1: our friends at Thoughts twenty six, in addition to Pam's

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Speaker 1: I want to go out to longtime friend and colleague

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Speaker 1: Andy Kahn, director of Victim Services in this jurisdiction. He

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Speaker 1: works with crime stoppers in Houston. Andy, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: that stinks about this case, and I'm not sure why

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Speaker 1: we are hearing let me just say, rumblings that police

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Speaker 1: know how I found this case?

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Speaker 2: Andy.

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Speaker 1: I happened to be scrolling through Twitter for stories for

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Speaker 1: needs some attention, and I found this. Why is it

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Speaker 1: Because none of this makes sense. It's not like she

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Speaker 2: What's the deal? Andy Cohn?

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Speaker 1: Agree with you?

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Speaker 4: Because when I tried to find out information, particularly on

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Speaker 4: media coverage of Pam going missing. There was very little

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Speaker 4: stories out there. There was absolutely no follow up the

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Speaker 4: a special report by local Fox News who does a

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Speaker 6: So I was just like you, I was kind of.

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Speaker 4: Puzzled as to why the media hasn't followed up on this.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, let me tell you what

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Speaker 4: crime Stoppers can do and will do for this spamily.

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Speaker 4: We have a very unique program at crime Stopers dealing

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Speaker 4: with missing adults. If a missing adult goes missing and

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Speaker 4: it's presumed to be as a result of criminal conduct,

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Speaker 4: we are ready to offer an up to a five

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Speaker 4: So if anyone out there knows what happened to her,

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Speaker 4: reach out to crime Stoppers. There's three ways you can

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Speaker 4: do it. Call us at seven one three two two

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Speaker 4: two tips, submit a tip online www dot crime dash

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Speaker 4: stoppers dot org. We have a mobile app available in

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Speaker 4: over twenty languages.

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Speaker 1: And remember, well, let me understand andy, you're saying that

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Speaker 1: under certain circumstances which I believe this case to a t.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stoppers will offer five thousand dollars reward. That's just

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Speaker 1: a yes, No, that's yes. Joining me now, Crime Stories investigated.

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Speaker 1: Reporter Sydney Summer. Sydney, describe for me the area where

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Speaker 1: Pamela seemingly disappeared.

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Speaker 9: Fancy. This is Houston, Texas. This is a bustling, huge city,

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Speaker 9: one of the biggest cities in Texas. And this apartment

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Speaker 9: a nice place to be settled at twenty years old.

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Speaker 1: It looks like I'm seeing her out by her pool,

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Speaker 1: likely at her apartment.

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Speaker 2: Guys, it matters, It matters, Joining me.

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Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons direct her operations USPA Nationwide Security, who leads

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Speaker 1: a team especially trained investigators specializing and locating missing people

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Speaker 1: at Uspasecurity dot Com. Brian, she did not just disappear.

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Speaker 1: The significance of what Sidney Summon just said is that

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Speaker 1: we're not out like where I grew up in rural

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Speaker 1: fields as far as the eye can see. That really

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Speaker 1: decreases your suspect. Pool Monica and Billy Reeves us tonight

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Speaker 1: both agree she would never just pick up and leave

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Speaker 1: and let me go in and tell you right now,

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Speaker 1: I have ruled out the boyfriend. Hold on, Brian, I

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Speaker 1: want to nail that down, Miss Reeves. Mister Reeves, isn't

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Speaker 1: it true the boyfriend was stationed elsewhere, not far from Houston,

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Speaker 1: but he absolutely was on base the night that Pamela disappears. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: doctor Angie Arnold first, Brian. Doctor Angela Arnold is a

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Speaker 1: renowned medical doctor psychiatrist who specializes in the.

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Speaker 2: Treatment of women.

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Speaker 1: Just voted my Buckhead's best psychiatric practice of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: twenty three, and twenty four, going on twenty five, Doctor Angie,

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Speaker 1: the reason I'm asking about the fiance is that that's

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Speaker 1: where we start every investigation. For statistical I'm not just

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Speaker 1: pulling it out of thin air. Explain why I was

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Speaker 10: Statistically, Nancy, these types of crimes are proms of passion,

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Speaker 10: so that is why we look at the person that

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Speaker 1: She's right, Brian, fitz Gibbons back to you joining us

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Speaker 1: from USPA Nationwide Security. You have to look at boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: Publication publicity of this case.

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Speaker 1: That they're not getting answers from Houston PD. No offense

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Speaker 1: Houston PD, but they're not getting answers. It's impossible that

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Speaker 2: That did not happen.

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Speaker 1: And the Reeves says are telling me she wouldn't just leave.

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Speaker 2: She would not just leave. She's never done that. Did

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Speaker 2: you see that graduation photo of hers.

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Speaker 1: She's wearing a gold banner around her neck for a reason,

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Speaker 2: She's an Honograd. That's what that means.

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Speaker 1: You don't get that from laying out of work or

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful young woman.

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Speaker 11: And let's talk about the circumstances of this case that

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Speaker 11: Bullet point number two, she left her personal items, including

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Speaker 11: And then the last point is that the police response

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Speaker 2: First Wait a minute, wait a minute, holds on.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first one, even though I'm from law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first one, Andy conn that the police watched it.

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Speaker 1: Reality when that happens, there's no sense in hiding it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think their response time was delayed. I think

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Speaker 4: this is actually the first real focus that's going to

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Speaker 4: be put on hopefully finding Pam and if not, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've got a reward out.

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Speaker 1: There, five thousand dollars reward Andy Kahn Crime Stoppers in Houston.

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Speaker 6: So this was reported by the family.

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Speaker 11: There was a disturbance in the apartment that was loud

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Speaker 11: Pam immediately replied with the last note with her last

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Speaker 1: Oh, look at your screen. Look, Brian, look at the

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Speaker 1: photo right there. Look at Shapama right there. Look at

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Speaker 2: Look at that beautiful smile. I mean, Monica.

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Speaker 1: I can hardly stand to look at it. I think

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Speaker 2: What about it, Billy, Well, she's a very happy person.

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Speaker 6: And see one type of person that I do wish

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Speaker 7: So like we were staying in the beginning of our

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Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at these pictures of her, mister and

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Speaker 2: All the birthdays. There she is with her easter basket.

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Speaker 2: Now nobody seems to care what happened to her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Like I said, I'm dis absolutely shocked, and I'm

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Speaker 3: Right now, where is twenty year old Shapamla Buckner. Family

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Speaker 1: Happened to Chapamela Butner. Let's take a look at the

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Speaker 12: It's late Tuesday night when a neighbor of Chapamela's here's

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Speaker 12: But authorities do not make contact with Chapamela that night.

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Speaker 1: Authorities do not make contact with Pamela that night. What

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Speaker 9: What happened, Nancy? According to Chapamela's family, they can confirm

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Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of the aunt, listen.

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Speaker 8: Schapamela's aunt also gets a call from Schapamela claiming she's

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Speaker 1: Do you know about the Forest Point Apartment Complex's on

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you, Brian Fitzgibbons, USPA nationwide security look at this.

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Speaker 1: If they have manicured front greenery, landscaped yards. Look at

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Speaker 1: trees don't grow in a straight line. Look at all

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm leading up to.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a gate that is mechanized to see

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Speaker 1: that sign on the gate, they've got security cams?

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Speaker 2: What about it?

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Speaker 11: Brian, Yeah, that's a big question that we have right is, Hey,

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Speaker 11: We know what time that took place because that's forever

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Speaker 6: And it's a big.

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Speaker 11: Question to me is why has this not been talked about?

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Speaker 11: We would have seen her leave the apartment on some

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Speaker 2: What about it?

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Speaker 1: To Monica and Billy Reeves family. Pamela is joining us tonight.

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Speaker 2: Was there a.

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Speaker 1: Security guard behind all those flowers?

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Speaker 2: Was there a little gatehouse?

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Speaker 1: Was there surveillance video people coming in and out of

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Speaker 12: Do you know?

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Speaker 7: We don't know, and we're not sure what the police

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Speaker 2: Have you reached out to police? Have you tried to

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Speaker 6: Them several times? Some calls were never returned and we're

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Speaker 7: Well, we tried to get in contact with some of

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Speaker 2: To Monica and Billy Reeves. Miss Reeves.

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Speaker 1: It's my understanding that there are some security cameras at

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Speaker 5: Run off is, possibly mailboxes and that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons, wouldn't that be your first stop? Even as

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Speaker 1: we're learning tonight they say there were not security cams

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Speaker 2: The car had to go out the front or the

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Speaker 2: security cams, absolutely, Nancy.

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Speaker 11: And there's also as police begin investigations like this, we

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Speaker 2: Crime Stores, with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: To Matthew Mangino joining me, veteran trial lawyer, former district attorney,

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Speaker 1: author of the executioners, told Matthew, you and I covered

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Speaker 2: He claimed he.

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Speaker 1: Was attacked on the side of the road, ostensibly by

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Speaker 1: I came up with the idea, well, what about when

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Speaker 1: Guess what, there was a Baptist church right there at

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Speaker 1: the turn with surveillance video. So what Fitzgibb has just

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Speaker 1: said it is really smart. There may not have been

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Speaker 2: The street, or the McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: They have surveillance videos, right, so where's all that video?

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Speaker 2: Well, right, Nancy?

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Speaker 6: And my concern here is a lack of urgency.

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Speaker 13: So the police were called, they were told about a

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Speaker 13: I mean, this should this should put up huge red

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Speaker 13: Well who was that person? Where does that investigation lead?

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Speaker 13: So my biggest concern here is there was a lot

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Speaker 3: Houston PD and Texas Equisearch scoured the area for Shapamela Buckner,

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Speaker 3: Police interviewed Chapamela's neighbor and aunt about what happened that night,

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Speaker 3: young Texan woman Chapamela Buckner, last seen at her apartment

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Speaker 2: Is that true, Sydney Sumer? Is it true?

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Speaker 1: When police arrived there was somebody in the apartment, Nancy.

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Speaker 9: When police arrived, they knocked trying to perform a welfare

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Speaker 1: How secure is Forest Point apartments there in Houston? According

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Speaker 2: And perimeter fencing. So what she climbed over a fence?

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Speaker 1: That did not happen according to other reports, they're actually

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious about what we're hearing regarding

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Speaker 2: Who is the aunt that went.

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Speaker 1: Over mister Raevis that knocked on the door and someone

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Speaker 6: That's my sister.

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Speaker 7: And but what I was understanding, she wasn't lady, And

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Speaker 6: On the ports and well, who was it? I'm not

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Speaker 2: Was it a woman or a man?

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying he was a guy.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if she could identify him in a lineup. Guys,

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Speaker 12: Listen, Houston PD officers do admit that foul play is suspected,

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Speaker 8: The lack of progress and transparency in Chappamelo's case has

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Speaker 8: They claim police have interviewed several people they believe were

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Speaker 2: No charges have been filed.

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Speaker 5: We're suffering, and then they're just walking around freely with

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Speaker 1: You were just hearing Monica when she was speaking to

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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox twenty six. Monica, do you believe

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Speaker 1: police know who's responsible for Pamela's disappearance?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they will not share that with you until.

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Speaker 5: They won't.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it, Andy Kahn, director of Victim Services

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Speaker 1: and Advocacy at Crime Stoppers of Houston. Why not share

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Speaker 1: it with the family. They're going through h double l you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Nancy, I don't know what's been shared, what's not

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Speaker 4: been shared. But let me tell you what we're going

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Speaker 4: to do with crime stoppers. We're going to pick up

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Speaker 4: this case. I'm going to ask the family to get

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Speaker 4: in touch with me. We have a whole new police

449
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Speaker 4: administration right now, so we're going to go ahead and

450
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Speaker 4: set up a meeting and we're going to get this

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Speaker 4: case back on the map and try to get this

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Speaker 4: family some answers that they truly deserve, because right now,

453
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Speaker 4: grief is intensified when justice is lacking, and sadly, right

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Speaker 4: now justice is lacking for Pam and her family. But

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Speaker 4: we're on board. We're going to get this case back

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Speaker 4: where at lawed guys.

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Speaker 1: It's not the first time that seemingly everybody knew what happened.

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Speaker 2: Yet nothing is done. Do I have to say, Stacy Peterson,

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm.

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Speaker 9: A big story.

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Speaker 3: But Juli a waste to hear all your time.

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Speaker 2: This story is preposterous.

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Speaker 9: That she ran off with another man, she didn't take

464
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Speaker 9: her car, she didn't come back and talk to her kids,

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Speaker 9: she's never called her family.

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Speaker 1: That's from our friend doctor Phil. And remember former police

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Speaker 1: officer Drew Peterson has been convicted in the murder of

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Speaker 1: his other wife, wife number three, Kathleen Savio, found drowned

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Speaker 1: in a bone dry bathtub. Everyone believes, which is, of course,

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Speaker 1: won't Stan up in a cord of law that Drew

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Speaker 1: Peterson killed fourth wife Stacy, Yet her body has never

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Speaker 1: been found and nothing has been done to pursue the case. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what about Crystal Rogers, So Brooks, you go to bed

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Speaker 1: and she's still playing games on her phone. The next morning,

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Speaker 1: around eight o'clock, you notice that she's missing. Did you

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Speaker 1: report her missing?

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Speaker 14: No, ma'am? Why That is a great question and one

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Speaker 14: that I definitely want to hear the other public in

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Speaker 14: the media. I was not in the least little bit

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Speaker 14: alarmed in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been charged in her death and disappearance. Now,

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Speaker 1: that was from our friends at hl N, Crystal Rogers,

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Speaker 1: Stacy Peterson. Is this a case out to Brian fit

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Speaker 1: Givens where apparently everybody has a very strong theory about

485
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Speaker 1: what happened to Sheapamela, but yet nothing's being done about

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Speaker 1: it exactly.

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Speaker 11: And that's why what Andy in his organization at crime

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Speaker 11: Stoppers is doing is so important. People know someone knows,

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Speaker 11: people talk and the time is to pick up the

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Speaker 11: phone and call crime stoppers. The time is now okay

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Speaker 11: to bring this family the answers that they are longing

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Speaker 11: for and to bring justice to whoever was responsible for

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Speaker 11: Pam's disappearance.

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Speaker 2: And the family makes a really good point.

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Speaker 1: Listen, know in their hearts she didn't just up and

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Speaker 1: leave without a word.

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Speaker 7: At that time, ty years old, no money or whatever.

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Speaker 7: Even if she will was gone for a while, she

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Speaker 7: had to eventually contact someone for some type of support.

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Speaker 1: From our friends at Fox twenty six, what did you

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Speaker 1: mean by that, mister Ravis, just twenty years old with

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Speaker 1: no money, Where's she going to go? She had never

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Speaker 1: left before, she had always stayed in touch with her

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Speaker 1: whole family.

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Speaker 2: What did you mean by that?

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Speaker 7: I'm sure she had needs us needing something to eat,

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Speaker 7: any kind of needs.

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Speaker 6: People just don't leave.

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Speaker 7: And if you're not working on something at that time

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Speaker 7: or whatever, you have to call somebody, one to found

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Speaker 7: a member of stuff, bus up to pick you up

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Speaker 7: or come and get you, give you some support.

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Speaker 5: We know for a fact something what went on and

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Speaker 5: what happened, and we have the text messages and everything

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Speaker 5: that she was, you know, speaking to the neighbor about

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Speaker 5: what was happening, and we've seen it from live from

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Speaker 5: what she was saying.

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Speaker 2: From our friends Fox twenty six.

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Speaker 3: The search continues for twenty year old texted woman Chapamela Buckner,

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Speaker 3: last seen at her apartment. Chapamela Buckner is African American,

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Speaker 3: four foot eleven with black hair and brown eyes. At

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Speaker 3: the time for disappearance, Shapamela weed one hundred pound and

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Speaker 3: wore her hair straightened. She has pierced ears and glasses.

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Speaker 3: If you have any information on Chapamelo Latricia Buckner, now

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Speaker 3: missing eight years, please call Houston PD at eight three

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Speaker 3: two three nine four one eight four zero.

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Speaker 2: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: It's not the first time someone vanishes from their apartment.

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Speaker 1: A beautiful young woman, seemingly without a trace, very reminiscent

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Speaker 1: of Jennifer Kessey.

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Speaker 12: Jennifer Kessie usually calls her boyfriend Rob on her way

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Speaker 12: to work between seven thirty and eight am. When he

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Speaker 12: doesn't get the call, he remembers Jennifer told him last

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Speaker 12: night on the phone she had a meeting this morning,

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Speaker 12: so he calls and leaves a message. When Jennifer doesn't

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Speaker 12: show up for work, and calls around answered. Co workers

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Speaker 12: are concerned. It isn't like Jennifer to be a no call,

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Speaker 12: no show. Drew Enjoyce Cassie drive from Tampa to Orlando.

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Speaker 12: In the condo, Jennifer's parents find a damp towel and

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Speaker 12: work clothes are laid out, like she got up and

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Speaker 12: got ready for work. The Kessie's alert police, family and

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Speaker 12: friends that Jennifer is missing. Two days into the search,

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Speaker 12: Jennifer's car is found at an apartment complex one point

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Speaker 12: two miles away from her condo. Surveillance cameras recorded a

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Speaker 12: person other than Jennifer parking her car and walking away.

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Speaker 12: The image from the camera isn't clear enough to identify

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Speaker 12: the individual.

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Speaker 2: You know, Sidney Sumner, just like Jennifer Kessy.

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Speaker 1: When the family went into her condo, they could tell

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Speaker 1: she was getting ready for work to go to work

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Speaker 1: that morning. She was there the night before. Her work

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Speaker 1: clothes were all laid out on the bay, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying different outfits with a shoes to go with them.

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Speaker 1: The shower stall was actually still damp, the towels were

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Speaker 1: still damp when they got there.

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Speaker 2: But no Jennifer.

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Speaker 1: And this case isn't it true, Sidney, that Sheapamela's belongings

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Speaker 1: were still in the apartment.

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Speaker 9: That is correct, Nancy. All of her items that she

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Speaker 9: would have taken with her she left were still inside.

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Speaker 9: Her phone, her purse, her id, her wallet, her keys.

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Speaker 9: They were all left in the apartment. And that's not

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Speaker 9: something Chapamela would leave behind. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 9: she wouldn't have left willingly if her keys were still

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Speaker 9: insult how do you even lock the door behind you?

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Speaker 9: This indicates that Sapamela was not intending to leave the

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Speaker 9: apartment that night.

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Speaker 1: To Monica and Billy revis joining us. Has she ever

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Speaker 1: disappeared before? I mean, she's a recent high school grad.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't even lived long enough to quote disappear very often.

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Speaker 1: But wasn't she very close contact with all of her family?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that her routine?

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Speaker 7: Yes, at least she would go nowhere without her phone

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Speaker 7: to call one of us if she needed help.

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Speaker 1: This goes against everything we know about routine, evidence evidence

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Speaker 1: of routine.

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Speaker 2: She would never.

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Speaker 1: Leave without her phone number one and number like any

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Speaker 1: recent high school grad. They're not getting disattached from their phone.

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Speaker 1: But her phone was left behind, her purse, her keys, everything,

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Speaker 1: and also her routine of contacting family multiple times every day,

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Speaker 1: even if just to say hello, she didn't. She immediately stopped,

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Speaker 1: dropped off the map. There's been no use of her

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Speaker 1: bank or credit cards, nothing like that.

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Speaker 2: She's definitely met with foul play. What About It? Brian Fitzgibbons.

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Speaker 11: When we see major deviations from somebody's daily routine, that's

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Speaker 11: certainly something that's going to lead an investigation. Aside from

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Speaker 11: the obvious that we've mentioned a couple of times that

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Speaker 11: she left her cell phone, her keys, her wallet and

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Speaker 11: personal items behind. When we see a break in a

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Speaker 11: communication pattern, that's significantly concerning for the investigation.

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Speaker 1: I understand that Texas Equisearch has been involved in the case.

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Speaker 2: What About It, Sydney.

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Speaker 9: Shortly after Shapamla disappeared, Texas Equisearch spent a short time

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Speaker 9: investigating the case, searching for Schapamela around the area of

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Speaker 9: her apartment, but it's unclear how involved EQUA Search still

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Speaker 9: is to this day.

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Speaker 1: To Monica and Billy Ravis, Texas Equo Search joining in

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Speaker 1: the search.

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Speaker 2: They're volunteers.

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Speaker 1: But what have the police been doing to try to

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Speaker 1: find Chapamela.

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Speaker 5: The last that we were told was that they was

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Speaker 5: going to go back over the case with the fine tooth,

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Speaker 5: come with more the more updated evidence that they did have,

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Speaker 5: but they never did reach back out to us after.

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Speaker 6: It the leducation. Then all of a sudden, the person

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Speaker 6: goes missing.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You don't want to jump to no conclusion to say

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Speaker 7: something bad has happened.

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Speaker 1: You just hope from our friends Fox twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Kee's first debit card. Everything was left at the house.

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Speaker 3: Chapameela Buckner's family says, the missing Texan woman didn't just

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Speaker 3: up and leave on her own. Where is Schapamela Buckner?

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Speaker 1: Everything's still there, but no Shepamela to Monica and Billy Revs'

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Speaker 1: family joining us tonight.

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Speaker 2: Have you been back to her apartment? What did you observe?

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Speaker 5: Everything's still there as if they.

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Speaker 1: Live there, you know, Monica Reeves, Billy Reeves, I remember

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Speaker 1: a missing teacher and I went with her mother into

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Speaker 1: her home, Tara Grinstead, and her little home was just

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Speaker 1: picture perfect. It looked like it came out of a

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Speaker 1: home DECORPS catalog.

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Speaker 2: You know. She had it so cute.

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Speaker 1: And everything was in place, except she was missing. It's

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Speaker 1: like time froze and the most important thing, Tara was gone.

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Speaker 1: Now that was Sarah Grinstead's home. But in Chapamela's apartment,

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Speaker 1: did you see size of a struggle.

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Speaker 5: In her Nie was closed everywhere, the bathroom was like

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Speaker 5: Stovo curtains, one floor, it was just anywhere.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't get it, Brian Fitzgibbons. There's clearly

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Speaker 1: been a struggle. Somebody answered the door. What is the problem.

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Speaker 1: That person has got to be at the very least

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Speaker 1: a pay person of interest, if not a suspect.

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Speaker 11: Of course, and we know that the disturbance was big

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Speaker 11: enough that the neighbor contacted Chapamela and then called the police. Right,

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Speaker 11: So if this person or person's have remained squatting in

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Speaker 11: the apartment, you know, I'd like to know where they've

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Speaker 11: been for the next.

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Speaker 6: Eight years and what's happened.

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Speaker 11: You know, they're absolutely persons of interest in my mind.

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Speaker 5: Listen, we're suffering and then they're just walking around freely

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Speaker 5: with not a care in the world, you know, like

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Speaker 5: they nothing to.

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Speaker 1: Them around fans at Fox twenty six to doctor Angela Arnold,

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Speaker 1: renounced psychiatrist in the Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor angel we've seen

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Speaker 1: this before. The family is suffering while they presumed perpetrator

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Speaker 1: is just walking.

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Speaker 2: Free with not a care in the world, just like

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Speaker 2: the family just said.

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Speaker 10: Well, and you know, Nancy is the family appears so

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Speaker 10: sad today because I know that on the show, we

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Speaker 10: are all getting the feeling that it's like their hands

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Speaker 10: are tied. No one's communicating with them. If you hadn't

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Speaker 10: have brought this to anyone's attention, Nancy, it would just

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Speaker 10: be a cold case forever. And there's so many holes

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Speaker 10: in the story. I can't imagine how they're getting through this.

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Speaker 10: And I can't believe the lack of concern that has

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Speaker 10: been shown by this police department.

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Speaker 5: We need them to just go into detail and tell

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Speaker 5: everything that happened and what was the end result. Just

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Speaker 5: to be on it, just to come and talk to

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Speaker 5: doesn't tell us.

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Speaker 1: From Fox twenty six, I mean, I'm curious to Billy Reeves,

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Speaker 1: it's just Sheppamoa's uncle.

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Speaker 2: How does that make you feel to think someone took her,

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Speaker 2: possibly killed her.

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Speaker 1: And they're walking free and you cannot get straight answers

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Police Department.

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Speaker 2: What's happening?

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Speaker 1: Do you think they know information they can't tell you

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Speaker 1: that would somehow compromise the investigation.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear your feelings.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what I'm thinking. If they have.

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Speaker 7: Information and because the case is still open, they won't

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Speaker 7: share it with us. From that point, that's all we

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Speaker 7: can go with is that it's ongoing occasion, they don't

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Speaker 7: want to put out too much information.

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Speaker 15: Is that your thought, Monica, Well, we had a meeting

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Speaker 15: with them again with HBD and from and they have

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Speaker 15: everything they need to know.

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Speaker 5: They showed it to us and they just haven't did anything.

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Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts on that they.

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Speaker 5: Need to do their job because they already know. They

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Speaker 5: basically pretty much showed me and told me everything, and

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Speaker 5: I showed them a lot of information and they basically

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Speaker 5: had much.

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Speaker 6: Shots of so many people that are involved, and they.

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Speaker 2: Know, but yet nothing is happening.

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Speaker 14: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: Did they explain why they're not doing anything.

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Speaker 5: We haven't spoke with them again. Every time I email

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Speaker 5: them or contact them called. I even had the investigative

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Speaker 5: cell number, they stopped responding.

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Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the

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Speaker 1: disappearance of this recent high school grad Pamela Buckner, please

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Speaker 1: call Houston p D eight three two three nine, four

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Speaker 1: one eight four zero. Tonight, we announced a five thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars reward for information leading to cracking this case at

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Speaker 1: Houston Crime Stoppers seven.

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Speaker 2: One three two two two eight four.

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Speaker 1: Seven seven repeat seven one three, two, two two, eight

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Speaker 1: four seven seven. Please help us solve the case. For

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Speaker 1: Chappamela's family, we remember an American hero. Correctional Sergeant Andrew

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Speaker 1: fought Illinois Department Corrections, passed away in the line of duty.

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Speaker 1: He served six years with Ellie and survived by parents

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Speaker 1: Linda and Eric, Timothy and Gina, and siblings Ashley, Patrick, Deborah, Cassidy, Katie, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: and Savannah. American hero correctional Sergeant Andrew fought Nancy Gray

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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye Friendti