1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: The Welcome to the Ozone Podcast featuring Jaguars dot Com 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher and Jack Buars executive producer Dave 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: the Kennis, Hello, and welcome to the Ozone Podcast. I 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: guess the first thing we have to do, Dave, is 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: tell people what the ozone podcast is all about. I'm 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: not really sure exactly what it is beyond we're gonna 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: talk to Jaguars players, coaches, personalities, and I think try 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: to get the viewer, the listener, the reader a little 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: more in tune with what the team's all about and 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: maybe what some of the players are thinking when they're 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: not on the field, what the coaches are thinking they're 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: not in the field. I guess, just try to get 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: them more humanized. And I think if we can do that, 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: it'll be a fun thing for fans to listen to 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: each week, and uh, a fun thing for us to do. 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: And thank you, Dave. You and I talked about this 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: as something knew we could do during the quarantine during 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: social distancing, and uh, you know, if something good comes 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: out of it, I guess that's pretty cool. So as 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: far as social distancing, how is it going for you? 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: Dave beganis uh, it's going I have to very young 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: children under the age of five, So that's an adventure. 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Everything too many in my book there yeah so so 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: uh so it's been an adventure. We are having to 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: be a little schooling too during the day and and 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: every time, like during this podcast, I was during our 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: interview recorded, I was getting poked in the side by 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: my four year old daughter wanting a snack. So now 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: shout out to the kids their names ages. So the 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: four year old who will be five in a couple 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: of weeks, is Olivia, and the youngest who is uh, 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: I think she's fourteen months fifteen months, I should know this, 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: But the second one I never hear this podcast. Yeah, 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: her name is Alice so and she just started walking 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: right at the start of the squarantineam. So that's as 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: a whole new elements, So a lot of chasing a 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: tiny child. My twenty three year old lives out in 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the garage apartment so much less intreasive that I can 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: tell him to go away. But heronically he's learning how 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: to walk too, so he's learning well, uh every day. 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: Still in adventure days, they always tell you, Dave that 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I know you're sitting here thinking man when they're eight 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: years old. All these problems go away. As my brother 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: told me as soon as my son was born, they 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: never go it's conscient. And as my father famous is dead. 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: I told my dad once days um, I called them excited. 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: I just read a study and I said, Dad, they're 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: they're saying that people can now live maybe to a 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: hundred and a hundred and twenty without missing a beat. 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: He said, you know, the only problems living to a 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: hundred and ten. I said, what do you guess is 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: that your ninety year old sons calling you to borrow money. 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a pretty good that's kids kids. Yeah. 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: So but quarantine has been good. It's been good family time. 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: And uh, I think I'm more built to like the 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: social distanct thing. I think much like you John, where 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm not like craving like to be around people. It's 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: it's good to just be by myself with my fine 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: and and and uh, as you know, people prefer us 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: at a distance. I think other people are happy too, 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: So this is a good. Uh, I'm with you. I 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: I worked at the Times Union, as people know, for 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: the twelve or thirteen years, and for six or seven 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: of those years. I worked remotely coverd Florida for two 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: years and the Jaguars for five, and you spend a 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: lot of time out of the office and working from home. 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: So I think for most sportswriters, for most, especially if 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: they've been in print, there's some background in this. I 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: think your background maybe a little less. TV people typical 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: we are in the office and they're around people more. 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's adjustment for them. But for for 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: sports journals in the print side, which is only like 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: four or five left, this is a much more common thing. 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean for on the TV side, you're 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: earlier really around two or three people all the time, 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: because it's how big sports departments are in local television 77 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: or or if you're working you know, if you're working 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: a game or whatever, you're kind of doing your job 79 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: and you're locked into that. So yeah, no, it's you know, 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: it hasn't been too bad. Um, but I'm glad we're 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 1: doing this podcast a way to come together while social distancing. Okay, 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: enough talk, you know, our first guest I'm excited about 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: it makes sense considering the time of year. We just 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: finished up the draft, which is always his busiest few 85 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: days of the year. Of course, for scouts and personnel people, 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the draft is the biggest event of the off season, 87 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: or the season, or the year. This was maybe the 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: most strange and exciting draft I've been around. It's certainly 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: the strangest draft this guy has had in his time 90 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. He's been around for eight years. He 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: had twelve picks, which is the most enfranchise history. I've 92 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: known him for a while, dating back, and we both 93 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: worked for the Colts and I was a senior writer 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: and he was a guy sort of coming up and 95 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: making his mark. Obviously, you know by now. Jaguars General 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: manager Dave paulswill as our guest today, the rush of 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: draft weekend. You've done this any number of times, not 98 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: as GM, but now eight times as GM. Is it 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: always the same? Is there always a rush? And I 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: assume when it's over, there's a feeling of looking back 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: going wow, Yeah, there's uh, definitely an element of they 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: let down after the draft, but generally it's a good letdown. 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: I always said this. I always enjoyed the months of 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: May and June, and I say, we we can work 105 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: normal people hours and get to see all the rookies 106 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: that we drafted and signed us college freegans and watch 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: those guys develop and get better. For those you know, 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: sixt eight weeks that they're here, and uh, I'm gonna 109 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: miss that probably the most here in the next two months. 110 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: By I always love that that month of May and 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: ju and being out there on the practice field watching 112 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: the guys developed. We'll get more to the draft in 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: a minute, but I might ask one thing when you've 114 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: got you always talk after draft and having four or 115 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: five guys sort of at each spot, especially in the 116 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: first round, that you like after spending so much time 117 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: with these guys and thinking about him and envisioning it, 118 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: is it ever just heartbreaking when you see a guy 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: go off the board right in front of you. I Mean, 120 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I know you love the guys you get, but there's 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: sometimes gotta be Okay, now I've just gotta put that 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: guy away. I thought about him for six months and 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: now that's over. Yeah. Well, I always think. What I 124 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: always try to do is I always count down picks 125 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, we got uh five picks ago 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: we got five guys, were like, we're gonna get one 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: of the five guys. That's how you know when when 128 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: you're either gonna need to trade up, and if you 129 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: if you got five or six picks ago and you 130 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: only got one guy valued in the second round, and 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: then you're like, you know what, I think it's time 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: to trade up and make a move to try to 133 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: get one of these guys, so you're not reaching for 134 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: a player that you didn't have value there. M We've 135 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: been fortunate where our scouts have done a good job 136 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: of and our coaches of setting the board, and we 137 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: felt really good the way the players came off, uh 138 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: these last three days in terms of uh, you know, 139 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: we had options when we were picking, and some of 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: the art has to be not just knowing how you 141 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: feel about guys, but predicting how the league feels about it. Yeah, 142 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: and this year is probably more more more difficult than 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: any other year, UM in terms of because you had 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: less information. You're less media information because scouts and coaches 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: weren't on the road and talking to their peers. So 146 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of unknowns as to 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: what values guys would where they would go. Right, not 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: as much I guess group think so to speak, because 149 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: we always chart. Hey, there was acts head coach at 150 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: this workout. There was this gentle manager at this workout. 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: You can you can figure out what teams kind of 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: have interest and or that this team brought six players 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: to this wide receiver workout, and you kind of kind 154 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: have a feeling what where teams are going maybe in 155 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: the first or second round. Now, have you ever tried 156 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: to dupe anybody by going to workout that you didn't go? 157 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: We don't enough time to waste time, right, I got you? Now, 158 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: I guess a million dollar questions. You've talked about the 159 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: off season in one way, and it seems like stands 160 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: and observers looking at it another way. People want to 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: call this a rebuild. What is Dave called the call 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: it when he's talking to people, we call a better 163 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: team and then than what we were. And uh, we 164 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: feel like that we've got young we we've got younger, 165 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: we've got more energetic um that might be unknown. We 166 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: have some unknown commodities on our team. But at the 167 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: end of the day, we feel like that we have 168 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: a chance to have competition at every single position and 169 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. And I think we have we 170 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: have We're gonna come out of this training camp with 171 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: good depth and good young players. And as much as 172 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: people want to label it, I think what you said 173 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: is what it's all about. You're not trying to label things, rebuild, retool, whatever, 174 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: you're trying to win. Yeah, we're trying to put the 175 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: best team out there we could and it may look 176 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: different than it has in years past, but you look 177 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: what we've done on the defense side of the ball, 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and and adding Joe Schobert, who's can be the quarterback 179 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: of that defense, and moving Miles to will where that's 180 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: his natural spot. On top of adding what we felt 181 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: like is a number one corner, a very good young 182 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: pass rusher Um and then some some big, hefty bodies 183 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: up there, uh and Al Woods and Rodney Gunn and 184 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: Um our third round pick to really solidify the run. 185 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see guys like Cash of 186 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Smarts come in and help and Rashawn Nolvin and add 187 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: depth and some good young players too that we've gotten 188 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: throughout the draft and uh, College fore agency, are you ever? 189 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Probably not surprised anymore? Bit struck by the difference sometimes 190 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: in what you guys see in a player or what 191 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: you guys see and what you're doing then in what 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: people like me or observers believe about what you're doing. 193 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: It's often to disconnect well, you know, and sometimes that's 194 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: our our job to maybe put better messaging out there too, 195 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: to maybe um edifire. You know, our fans are the 196 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: people reporting on the team, and I try, but I 197 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: think for us, we have to gauge against the other 198 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: thirty one teams in the league, and we have to 199 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: compare ourselves to where we are with the other thirty 200 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: one teams. And if you go position by position and 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: look at where we're at, and we study the thirty 202 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: one other teams on a basis, the majority of our 203 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: fans and the people will cover our team look at 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: us kind of an efficia bowl, and uh, you know, 205 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: they don't see the surrounding thirty one other teams and 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: where they have deficiencies and where they have strengths and 207 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: and we don't have you know, we may not have 208 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: a strength at every position, but we're better than some 209 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: of other positions and have weaknesses just like every other 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: team has weaknesses, and we have strengths like every other 211 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: team and strength. So the key is to have those 212 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: guys come in and play UM together and as a 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: team and collectively, ah, they will make each other better. 214 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: I think we talked at the combine very briefly about this. 215 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: The fish bowl thing maybe applies to the offensive line 216 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: more than any other position. I think when we talk, 217 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: you know, and you said, every fan base, it seems 218 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: in the league criticizes their own offensive line, and sometimes 219 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the reality is a little different. I think we talked 220 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: about that the common Yeah, there's a lot that goes 221 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: into it, and um, you know, it's scheme. It's uh, 222 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, making sure your players fit into what your 223 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: scheme is and and making sure you you you have 224 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: the players in there that from a physical standpoint, can 225 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: withhold the down and down out physicality of it, but 226 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: also putting them in position just like you what a 227 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: wide receiver or running back or a corner or pass 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: rusher to play their strengths and there. And I think 229 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: our coaching staff, Coach Warhop and coach Moro own's obviously 230 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: a offensive line got by trade. And it feels like 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: that that they can put our guys in those positions. 232 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, um, you know, 233 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: like I said, every team's gonna have a weakness here 234 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: or there. But we feel like that our our group, 235 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: there is a competitive group that you can win with. 236 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: When you read online people talking about Tank for Trevor 237 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: saying things like that, how absurd is that in the 238 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: big picture that any GM coach, player X would ever 239 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: just being around the league. I can't even grasp how 240 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: that would happen, But I can't imagine what it feels 241 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: like to you as a GM when you read it. Well, 242 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: considering our our situation, it's very absurd you now of that, 243 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: But our owner wants to win, and he wants to 244 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: win now, and he doesn't want to lose a game 245 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: for something that might be down the road that there's 246 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: no guarantees for either. So um, I think you here, yeah, 247 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: very much from and none of that from from a 248 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: personal standpoint, but myself and Coach Brown too, and I 249 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: think everybody realizes that this is an important season for 250 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: the Jack and everybody and that we need to show 251 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: good improvement and that we're in the right We're heading 252 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: in the right direction, and we don't want to be 253 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: taking a step backwards. By touch on what you just said, 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: people in January, I think thought that everything about this 255 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: all the season was going to be when now, when now, 256 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: which usually means I guess going out signing veterans, but 257 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: it felt like you guys approached this with an eye 258 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: on the future. You traded a lot of UH veterans 259 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: for draft, you cleared a lot of cap space. Um 260 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: are you what went into that off season playing? How 261 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: did you? I guess come up with it? Well? And 262 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: the first thing we kind of took in stages, you know. 263 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: The first thing was we had to get our sailor 264 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: cap in order in order to operate and and try 265 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: to put the best team out there that we could 266 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and where we could put a better team out there 267 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: than what we've had in the last two years. And 268 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: in order to do that, we had a um probably 269 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: get rid of some salaries and some some guys that 270 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: we really liked from a locker room standpoint, but just 271 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the day couldn't afford where they 272 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: were at. So UM the next step was to how 273 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: do we clear these guys and still get value out 274 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: of out of them and make it a good situation 275 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: for everybody. And with Klas and a J and Nick, 276 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: it was a situation of, Hey, we feel like these 277 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: guys still have value for us, but we know that 278 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: they have value for other teams too, so try to 279 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: put them in a spot where they can go that 280 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: they feel comfortable with, that the team us gets good 281 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: value for them and draft picks. And we felt like 282 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: that we did that with all three of those guys, A, J, Nick, 283 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: and Klais where we got good value for guys who 284 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: had big numbers on the salary cap, and at the 285 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: end of the day, we felt like maybe we could 286 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: replace some with the younger guys that may have to develop, 287 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day have a chance 288 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to grow and be good football players. It's not easy too, 289 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: I guess clean up the cap for lack of a 290 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: better word, but it feels like you've done it for 291 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. How heavy a lift was that, je, 292 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out that number, and there 293 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: are some dark days for sure. I was looking at 294 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: like boy, but I just looked at the numbers. Where 295 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: we're at right now and where we're gonna be next 296 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: year with some assumptions of what the salary cap is 297 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: going to be, and we're gonna be in very good 298 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: operating position. You get another nine draft picks at least 299 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: for next year to come in. We're gonna be a 300 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: young team this year. We expect to have a lot 301 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: of young players make our team, and we'll have rooms, 302 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: whether it's to resign some of our own guys or 303 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: to to do some things that really improve some guys. 304 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: If that's the direction we want to go into it 305 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: next year and the next couple of years. People are 306 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: fascinated with the draft, and there's so little real information 307 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: before it, But afterward we'll ask you, you're human and 308 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: you read, what percentage of what's quote out there in 309 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: the days before the draft is actually real? If I mean, yeah, 310 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: well I know what I'm asking. Quote my long time mentor, Dominely, 311 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: he would always say, UM, believe none of what you're 312 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: here in half of what you read. So I think 313 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty accurate. Um, And that's one of the 314 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: only dumb quotes you can share right today, probably, Um, 315 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: what percentage of it that's wrong do you put out there? 316 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Do you intentionally try to misinformed? That's not your game. No, 317 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: that's too uh, that's that's too much energy for us. 318 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: And I always tell people, and people will call me 319 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: I will never I will never rely to them. Um, 320 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: but I may not tell them. If there's something I 321 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: can't discuss, I always say I don't want to, I 322 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: don't believe, and putting false infer And sometimes it can 323 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: come back to the hunt. You, um, if there is 324 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: some things out there, and there were some things out 325 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: there in this year is draft, I'm not gonna I'm 326 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: not gonna try to uh curb every rumor and try 327 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: to grade either, you know. So sometimes things are out 328 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: there that I don't mind being out there and let 329 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: them uh kind of do it because we feel like 330 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: at the time it might help us, or or if 331 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: we need some players to follow to us that it's 332 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: okay to have some of those rumors, or possibly um 333 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: have value to trade back if we were looking to 334 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: do that. So, but never have I put false information 335 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: out there intentionally a pre draft, any rituals, any superstitions 336 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: that you go through to get ready, any particularly thing 337 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: you wear. I've known different guys who have to wear 338 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: this to this coat. No, I like to to be 339 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: honest with you today. To draft, I like to get 340 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: away from from all of it, to be honest with 341 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: you early on and just kind of sit back and 342 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, sleeping a little bit. Draft day, you know, 343 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: go for a long walk or jog or bike right 344 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: along along the beach and and just get away from it, 345 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: clear your head, and then come back and really just 346 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: spend some time with my family. Now, remember Bill Polian 347 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: tell me a long time ago, a good draft rooms 348 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: are not like you see in the movies, meaning once 349 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: it started, there's not a whole lot of arguing between 350 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: the right hand man and things like that. I assume 351 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: you believe that as well. Once this thing starts, it's yeah, 352 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: it's coming off the board and pretty calm. Yeah. I 353 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: always tell our our our scouts and our personal people 354 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: and coaches speaking now or forever, hold your piece because 355 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: once we set them on the um, you know we're 356 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: gonna go with it. So I don't ever want anything 357 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: left unseid in the process. And uh, I always tell 358 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: our our guys are are our scouts and our coaches. 359 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: You know you'll never be um school that for giving 360 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: me an opinion. I want opinions. And I always joking 361 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: that before I drive the car off the clip, I 362 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: want somebody to tell me hit the brakes. And I think, 363 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: because you know, they have good wingmen and good people 364 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: with good opinions to tell you, you you know, don't do 365 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: this I feel strong about it, or we should do this, 366 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: I feel strongly about it. Is very good in my position, 367 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: and same with coach Morrow. Why else do you have 368 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: those people right if they're not gonna tell you when 369 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: you're wrong. You have to trust your scots, you have 370 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: to trust your personnel people. And at the end of 371 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: the day, every once in a while, I'll say this 372 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: picks for me. Um. There was so much lead up 373 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: to the virtual draft. I anything surprise you about it? 374 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: I guess the smoothness of it. It sounds like surprise 375 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: you a little bit. Yeah, I did, And Uh, I 376 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: was skeptical at first. Um, But at the end of 377 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: the day, I think the league did a great job. 378 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: Everybody there. I think all the teams did a great 379 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: job and just and really enjoyed seeing a lot of 380 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: my counterparts across the league with their families and seeing 381 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: them enjoy the day too. Did you learn anything about 382 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: the process? Uh, maybe what you were doing before that 383 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: you don't need that you can do better doing it differently. 384 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything that stood out of Hey, 385 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 1: we didn't need to be doing this before, we can 386 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: do this, anything like that we actually think that there 387 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: can be days where we can have at home work 388 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: days throughout the process. And there might be you know, 389 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: the days are long and you're you're going ten, fifteen, 390 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: twenty one days straight and they say, hey, let's take 391 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: a day and well, everybody get away and we'll work 392 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: from home tomorrow. I think that's something that's very feasible 393 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: for us to do in the future, and not every 394 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: day obviously like we did in the past year, but 395 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: to do it where hey, you know, let's get away, 396 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: clear your mind and work from home. And I think 397 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: that's something that I think with technology and how how 398 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: this process went, I think, uh, it would be really 399 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: good and and to be able to do that and 400 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: then come in the next day and really talk about 401 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: it too, is something that instead of us just sitting 402 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: in there with ten guys in the in the draft room, 403 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, grinding film for fifteen hours a day. Anything 404 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: specific about this class stand out to me you haven't 405 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: mentioned already. Obviously, it's it's a good bunch of guys, 406 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: heavy on defense. But anything to use a GM and 407 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: you look back on it that you like, I just, uh, 408 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, I like the fact that we feel we 409 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: feel like we feel needs we created, uh competition and 410 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: depth along the offensive defense side of the ball. Um, 411 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: I'll sleep at night knowing that we have a corner 412 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: that we feel like can be a Number one corner 413 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: and another pass rusher and and I think those are things. 414 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: But to to solidify, you know, maybe some competition at 415 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: safety at linebacker, probably the best depth that we've had 416 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: here at linebacker since I've been here. And Um, you 417 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: take you know, Joe and Miles and Shack and Quincy, 418 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and those are are four guys that are all athletic, urgent, 419 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: and tough competitors. So I feel good about that. And 420 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: and then the receiver position, and you know that to 421 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: go into camp with with really good competition, it's gonna 422 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: be a fun competition for the top four spots and 423 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: then who makes the team. You know, at the fifth 424 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: and sixth spot, is Chanal a different guy than you've 425 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: had before? He is? He is because he's so physical, 426 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: and he's so tough and and and the way he 427 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: runs with the ball in his hands. UM generally look 428 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: for guys that are quick separators, and he can do 429 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: that too. So it's gonna be fun to watch him 430 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: develop and and and when Keenan gets his hands on 431 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: him to to get him, uh, you know, running routes 432 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: the way Kena wants to run routes and to put 433 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: his whole game together. It's gonna be fun to watch. 434 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, staying for a couple of days, it feels 435 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: like this draft class is a change of directions somehow 436 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: for the franchise. Maybe it's just because there's twelve of them, 437 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: but it Do you feel that way as well? Or 438 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: is that overstating it? Or I felt last year's draft 439 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: class was the start of that. To be honest with you, 440 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, John Taylor, UM, really like you know Josh 441 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: ell Or Quincy, Williams Gardner, Um, you know Rock Armstead. 442 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, I think all those guys really kind of 443 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: came in and and and really brought their own identity 444 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: and we're really great team guys. And then that to 445 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: double up with this draft class, I think with a 446 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: similar type of guys is really kind of what UM, 447 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I feel like, Uh, you can start to make strides quickly. 448 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: Both you and Doug have talked a lot about liking 449 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Like I said, you didn't 450 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: like the guys in the past, but that feeling is real, 451 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: and I mean there's something there that's maybe a little 452 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: different um then you normally feel. Yeah, And and I 453 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: don't know if it was intentional or what I know, 454 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: there was you know, different guys that we were targeting 455 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: throughout the draft, and then these guys just kept sticking 456 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: out in terms of not only that we like him 457 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: from a uh from a personality trade standpoint, but also 458 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: from a skill standpoint. And they all they all have 459 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: unique skills um that can come in and make a 460 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: difference for his team. You can't talk to anybody when 461 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: the jail was now without talking about minshoo. Take me 462 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: through your thoughts on him. What does he need to 463 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: do next season to improve? Where is he at? But 464 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: first of all, what does he need to do next year? 465 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: What's his biggest task? Well? Right now, from what I've 466 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: I've I've chatted with him and I've talked to him 467 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: and people around him, he seems like he's a man 468 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: on a mission and I think he can, you know, 469 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: take another step up. Obviously for what he did a 470 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: rookie was impressive. If he gets better, you're looking at like, Wow, 471 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: we could really have something with him. Um, but I 472 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing, and he knows this is ball 473 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: security in the pocket and probably his red zone opportunities. 474 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: I think that those are two things that generally with 475 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, Uh, it's probably the lasting for them to 476 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: to kind of figure out what the speed of the game. 477 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: And I think with his football i Q and and 478 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: his determination in the way he's approaching this offseason, I 479 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: think those are things that he's gonna take take care 480 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: of pretty readily. Is he a hard guy to evaluate 481 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: because he plays a little different not prototype, Yeah, he's not. 482 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: And you know it's okay not to the prototype. You know, quarterbacks, 483 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: they are all different. They all have different throwing motions 484 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: and different skill sets and athletics. I have strong arm, 485 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: someone have good accuracy. Uh, some are great anticipators, some 486 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: have great pocket presence, and um, he's got a little 487 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: bit of all of it. And I think, uh, you know, 488 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I think the his his biggest probably thing is people 489 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: look at his hype, but there there's especially recently been 490 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks his height have a great success 491 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: and we don't see why he can't be one of them. 492 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Three more from me, uh too, specifically on the draft. 493 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Was there a player that you were worried about as 494 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: you waited, but you weren't sure it was going to 495 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: slide to you? They kind of stood out for the rest. 496 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I know you're always as always guys you want. Was 497 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: there one guy you wanted? He was like, I don't 498 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get there, but I got to be patient. Yeah, 499 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: claib I was probably the one from the beginning that 500 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I you know, it was funny, you knew a lot 501 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: of teams liked him, right, I did. And I had 502 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: a friend across the league text me right after and 503 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: he's like, I called this in our February meetings that 504 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: you guys were drafted him, and uh, He's like, he 505 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: just kind of fits your prototype of pass rushers and 506 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: athletic guys that you guys like. And I said, well, 507 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: you're right, And he was a guy that from the beginning, 508 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: and when you put on the L s U tape, Uh, 509 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: you you evaluated a lot of players on that defense, 510 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: and he was the one guy that continued to stand out. 511 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: And I remember watching it because it was early September 512 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: October and I was watching fifteen different guys and he 513 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: wasn't really one that I was targeting on and I 514 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: had to look up. I'm like, who is this number? Eighteen? 515 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: Sure enough? He was draft all to him like, this 516 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be a high draft pick for sure, 517 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: And he would have been if if we didn't take him. 518 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: He was going to go in the next pick or 519 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: two for sure. You talked so much over the weekend 520 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: about being patient. Obviously when you say that kind of thing, 521 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, he is two patients. Should 522 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: have traded up on guys? What about that? Uh? Was 523 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: there anybody you were close to trading up? Uh? And 524 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: what sort of convinced you to just stick to that plan? Yeah? 525 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: So we were rarely never really close. I think Channault 526 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: was the only guy that we were close to trading 527 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: up for um. And when you asked me earlier about 528 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: guys going off right before we picked, he was really 529 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of the last of guys we felt really really 530 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: good about it, and and that was one that we 531 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: were close to, but they didn't do it and just 532 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: sat there and it worked out. Um. But other than 533 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: that that, we felt like at every other pick, there 534 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: were guys that we knew that we liked that fit 535 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: our mold of being football players that could come in 536 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: and compete right away and and uh fill a need. 537 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 1: So we didn't really feel need a need to do 538 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: that at any point in time. And and you know, 539 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: we didn't want to waste the draft picks. You know, 540 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: we had enough capital, and and if we didn't need 541 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: to trade up for somebody, and then you know, that's 542 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: just an extra player that we could bring in and 543 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: compete for us. You may have touched on some of 544 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: this already, but you know, to close, I'll ask you, 545 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: what do you like most about this team right now? 546 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: I guess what should Jaguars fans believe in? What do 547 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: you see maybe some people aren't seeing. I like the 548 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: level of competition that we're gonna have it virtually almost 549 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: every position. And I like the skill set of a 550 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: lot of our guys. I think we have playmakers on 551 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: the offense side of ball, and we have playmakers on 552 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: the deep inside of ball. It might not be household 553 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: names yet, but I think in time they can do. Dave, 554 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Thanks John all right, that was 555 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: Dave called. ID like to thank him for offering his 556 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: time this week. Even though it's after the draft, he's 557 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: still relatively busy. I guess, I guess he has something 558 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: to do day. I thought it was interesting to hear 559 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: him talk about the approach that they're taking. I think 560 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: everybody thought going into the offseason that this was gonna 561 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: be a win now thing, that these guys are gonna 562 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: be desperate to hold on to their jobs. And I 563 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: thought he was pretty frank and talking about that that 564 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: he's aware that they need to win, he's aware that 565 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: shot once victories this season, but it also felt like 566 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: he had this approach that the right thing to do 567 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: in terms of building was still the right thing to do, 568 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: regardless of all the talk. And to me, this team, 569 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't really care what people say on the outside 570 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: about rebuild tank for Trevor and all that. It just 571 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: doesn't feel from being around these guys that that's gonna 572 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: be there. I'm up to be honest, there are too 573 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: many good players on this team to have the tank 574 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: of for Trevor, mantra or thing. I mean, they have 575 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: good players all over the place, and it's just it 576 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: should be interesting to me that. I mean, also, if 577 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: you're working in this pressure, how can you think that way? 578 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: That's kind of loser's mentality. I think when you're when 579 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: you're working in a game, or where you're working in 580 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: a business where where your livelihood depends on when's losses. Right, Yeah, 581 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's absurd, and people forget that because it's 582 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: so easy on Twitter too hashtag tank for Trevor Or 583 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: two use the word tank and not when you're outside 584 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: of it. But you know, I respect the approach that 585 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: they've taken this offseason because it would have been very 586 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: easy for them to say, we're going after needs, we're 587 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna bring a bunch of free agents in here, we're 588 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna try to try to squeeze out wins. And it 589 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: feels amazingly like a GM who is who is coming 590 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: in at the start with a clean slate, who doesn't 591 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: have to worry about wins this year. He actually does 592 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: have to worry about when. But he's still taking this 593 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: approach of he traded a lot of veterans, a young 594 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: rookie teen, they're going to take some growing pains. It 595 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: it's a I don't stay courageous with regard to football, 596 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: but it's a gutsy approach considering they know they have 597 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: to win so um. But enough of that, Dave. You 598 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: know what I do you question? You know, that's kind 599 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: of my stick I answer questions. That's the street. Well, 600 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: it started August tent fish of two thousand eleven. So 601 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, I counted up a few weeks ago. 602 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: Because every once in a while ozone readers will ask 603 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: how many consecutive days? And it's, uh, whatever that number. 604 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: I could google it for you next week. That will 605 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: be a topic next week. How about it's the number 606 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: is slow so large you cannot do simple math to 607 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: figure it out, right, It's some sort of calculus, trigonometry, isometrics. 608 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: But what are right? So that exercise not a mac Yeah, 609 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: we're doing about that. But I thought the first thing 610 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: we or or the last thing we do in the 611 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: podcast every week is answer at least one of his 612 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: own question. Uh so you obviously know this. We've discussed 613 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: it already so far away with the question. All right, 614 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: I got it right here. So so it's Thomas from Blacksburg, Virginia, 615 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: home of the Hookyes, Virginia, the Jags. Sure do you 616 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: seem to be trying to push this character angle hard, 617 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: aren't they? As someone who endured the Jane Smith character 618 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: All Stars, that's pretty funny. Let me be the first 619 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: to shrug, Well, this has so after the draft. Let's 620 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: give a little background of this too. After the draft, 621 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: the post draft press conference, Doug Maron was asked this question, 622 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: We're a certain reporter who shall name nameless referred to 623 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: the draft class classes choir boys. Yeah, there, there we go. 624 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: And Doug took a little offense to this and kind 625 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: of said, which I agree with them. It's like, if 626 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: you have good football players and they're good people, what's 627 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: wrong with that? Why are we criticizing or or talking 628 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: down about these guys? And I and I mean, I 629 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: think to the whole Jean Smith thing, maybe it's a 630 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: an enduring scarred or a fan base about how he 631 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: was drafting captains and all that. I don't know, to 632 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: be honest, John, I just don't get the whole, the whole, 633 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: like it's a bad thing to have good guys. Look, 634 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: here's the bottom line on on really, both Gene and 635 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Dave and you know whatever, this franchise has missed on 636 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks forever. If you draft good quarterbacks, then everything else 637 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: looks so much better that all the GM stuff. It 638 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: just wears me out. Um. Big Code was generally drafted fine, 639 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: except except that Blake missed. I mean, that's the biggest thing. 640 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Beyond that, there is z rope problem with drafting character. 641 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was around a POLS team that drafted 642 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: heavily for character for a long time, put a major 643 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: amass on it, had some misses, heads, some hits with that. 644 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: When you've got a quarterback, which which they did, then 645 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know your character guys all 646 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: look great. So there's an element of that. But there's 647 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: no reason, and there's no law that says just because 648 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: a guy is a good guy that he can't be 649 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: a good football player. I'm not one to harp on character. 650 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: When I was with the media, I was never a 651 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: guy who criticized the GM from missing on character because 652 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: everybody has flaws, and these guys are human beings, human beings. 653 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: When you draft them, you were taking a chance on 654 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: how they're going to turn out. But there's nothing wrong 655 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: with this draft class, and there's certainly nothing wrong with 656 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: a GM and a coach and you heard day they 657 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: know they need to win. Um, it feels to me 658 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: like they're taking approach if we're gonna go down, if 659 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have this where we've got to go get 660 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: it done this year. We're gonna get it done with 661 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: guys we want to be around. I think they want 662 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: to walk into the locker room feel good about the 663 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: guys they're going into battle with or whatever. You use 664 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: that horrible cliche, but I think there's an element of 665 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: that where when everybody's on the same page, everybody's willing 666 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: to work, and everybody's willing to pull in the same direction. 667 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: I think in football that does matter to a point. 668 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: So I just don't get why it's a big it's 669 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: a big controversy if you can point me in the 670 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: draft to a point where they said, Hey, this guy 671 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: is a lot better. But I like this guy because 672 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: he's good and he makes me laugh and I like it. 673 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: I like Louie. He looks in a tie. I don't 674 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: think that happened. So I'm fine with this class. Yeah, 675 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: and hey, it's nice to have good guys, right, I mean, 676 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: everybody likes staying around with matters in the point of 677 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: these guys care about it. They're clearly motivated. I thought 678 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: a variancing part of this draft class was Davon Hamilton's 679 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: and uh and the BArch Kid from Minnesota or from St. John's. 680 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: They're both guys who clearly cared about the game over 681 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: the long term. Hamilton went to Ohio State and didn't 682 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: really play a lot until his fifth year there. BArch 683 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: went to Minnesota or St. John's and never had any 684 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: inkling of the NFL until late in his career, but 685 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: still put in all this work, all those smoothies. Could 686 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: have been easy to put down dave Um, but still 687 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: did it because he wanted to get better at the game. 688 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: There's a love of the game there, and I don't 689 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: know how much that's gonna matter, but I think there 690 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: is a dedication and a importance to it that's maybe 691 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: an intangible that it feels like that runs through this 692 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: draft class and as long as there's talent that I 693 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: do believe there's talent there. As long as there's talent, 694 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a bad theme to have 695 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: over your last two or three draft classes that you 696 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: brought it up. Would you do the Ben Bark smoothie? 697 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, I have no reason to because I'm already 698 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: so overwhelmed, Like I have no reason. Would I taste 699 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: it if it? If it wouldn't add the calories. I 700 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: would probably try it on a dare, but it'd be tough. 701 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't get the topic. And they're scrambled. 702 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: He scrambled the eggs because he thought the story right. 703 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: It's because he thought the rides would be gross. Well, okay, 704 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: then all right it. And I loved when he said, 705 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: uh that he didn't want to get fat and that 706 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: was his only bad meal of the day. Beat that 707 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of way. And and St. John's it's an incident. 708 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't have a seen, no advision to football, but 709 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: if there's a Division one type program in Division three, 710 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: it might be St. John's. They've been a a power 711 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: for a long time and they are a revered school 712 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. They're a big deal in Minnesota. That bigger 713 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: to put out a lot of draft picks, but um, 714 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: they're a big time, big time program. They had a 715 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: coach and his name escapes me was one of the 716 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: winnings coaches in college football history until he tired. I 717 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: think he passed a couple of years back. But a 718 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: friend of mine went there that I knew I've got 719 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, and he called him the Johnny's the 720 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: whole thing, and that football program people in Minnesota is 721 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: a big deal. The more you know, you learn a 722 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: little something on the ozone podcast. I guess you did. 723 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: That's the hope anyway, Dave. Alright, that's Edition one of 724 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: the ozone Podcast. Thanks to Dave called Well for joining us, 725 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: and thanks to Joe Fortunatos for doing all the editing work. 726 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: Uh that for this weekend hope he didn't sing