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Speaker 3: Lot's you Live on a Tuesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the great ze. Sun

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Speaker 3: is out, brisk bris sun is out. You and I

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Speaker 3: look like we could go play a cool foursome right now,

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Speaker 3: let's go do it. And now are two attires. We

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Speaker 3: go right to the first tea. Let's go and let

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Speaker 3: it go. Well, it was this beautiful little little I

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Speaker 3: love it. Baby blue is it's not quite a Carolina blue.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit deeper than that, could be not

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Speaker 3: quite UCLA, maybe in between maybe Colombia blue.

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Speaker 4: Colombia blue. Yeah, and yes, that's that's LD's branded.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight Penguins Winner Classic.

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Speaker 3: There you go, g man, you always come in a

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Speaker 3: big way, coming in a big way, a big way.

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Speaker 3: You and I had a shared experience last night and

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Speaker 3: that we both both watched the most recent episode of

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Speaker 3: nineteen twenty three adjacently. You had started earlier. Normally I needed,

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Speaker 3: I need the children to go to bed for that.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, blanket, I'm just going to go to

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Speaker 3: not going to have much interest because she's her interest

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Speaker 3: in that is waned because of the tone of the

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Speaker 3: first four episodes, which have been just brutal.

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Speaker 4: Well, the first ten minutes, we're not going to reel

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Speaker 4: her back in. They were gonna know.

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Speaker 3: So when you text me, and you because you were watching,

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Speaker 3: you texted you said the first ten minutes. But right

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Speaker 3: I was walking the dog. I'm walking Buddy Garrity, and

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Speaker 3: I get the text from you about the first ten minutes,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: let's just this is it. This is determination day, like

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Speaker 3: show friends or show business.

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Speaker 4: We had to talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if this doesn't get better quickly, and I

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Speaker 3: still think we're in for a lot of grueling stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of l's.

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Speaker 4: I do but at least they gave us. I think

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Speaker 4: almost as if they were listening to us, because then

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Speaker 4: they gave us a few.

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Speaker 3: Wins, five hours of television, and we're still not too Montana,

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Speaker 3: not even close. He's in Texas, she's on a train

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Speaker 4: He's had a very circuitous route, to say the very least.

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Speaker 3: They didn't understand the the thing with the cop, the sheriff,

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Speaker 3: who's now a bootlegger and why does he need him

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Speaker 3: to drive? I don't think he was a boot leg.

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Speaker 4: I think he wanted.

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Speaker 3: To shot him all up. Yeah, they're like this, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna live this operation. Put an end to this, literally

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Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, where he could put it? Where is he? Like,

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Speaker 3: Or whatever, right where I shot him bang bang.

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Speaker 4: And then he shot that. I'm like, okay, it's on.

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Speaker 4: Got a few wins.

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Speaker 3: I googled. I also googled when what was the first

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Speaker 3: international airport in Montana? Eighth Central. It was actually Billings,

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Speaker 3: Montana in nineteen twenty six. Okay, so it's in the

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Speaker 4: I also went and looked up when the first ski

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Speaker 3: Thirties, nineteen thirty six Showdown, which is where I grew

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Speaker 3: So but that's thirteen years later. The first ski resort

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Speaker 3: The other problem that I had with it the it

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, well hers the winters. But it's like, no,

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Speaker 4: Number one, right, So every season that somebody wants to

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Speaker 4: How there's a large place of land that no one

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Speaker 3: The county without population, without still recognized or anything. Huh, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's one of the kind of tricks of anti hero television.

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Speaker 3: Man wants to knows Tuesday the worst day of the

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Tuesday guy.

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Speaker 3: With my mindset of first Friday, Tuesday is a real

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Speaker 1: So Tuesday, Tuesday is like second Monday, except on Monday

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Speaker 3: That's fair. Yeah, I like it, g Man.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with things.

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Speaker 4: So the reason it whatever happens on a Tuesday Tuesday

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Speaker 4: So you got Saturday is one, right because you've had

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Speaker 3: I can I can I parcel up. I think Friday

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Speaker 4: But see Friday has still Friday, Friday Saturdays like.

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Speaker 3: If I take if you give me after work Friday,

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Speaker 3: then after work Friday whenever, that is for you. That's apex.

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Speaker 3: But yes, other than that, Saturday, Saturday's one.

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Speaker 4: I think it goes as I'm gonna give you my

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Speaker 1: I think Saturday's one. I think Friday is two.

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Speaker 4: So I went Saturday one, Friday two, Sunday three. Yep,

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Speaker 4: Thursday four. Now I went, I could five and six.

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Speaker 4: I could be talked into either one. But I actually

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Speaker 3: So I would go Saturday clearly Sunday the two, because

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Speaker 4: I gotta get back at falls the start of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: like a first Friday. Then I go Thursday, then Monday,

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Speaker 3: because I got energy Monday, like what happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: we get a lot to discuss. Monday's fine, and it

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Speaker 4: Tuesday. There's nothing nobody to like. Oh man, it's Tuesday. Cool.

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Speaker 3: You're right, even on Monday and Thursday and football season,

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Speaker 3: you have football on those days. There's nothing on Tuesday Thursday.

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Speaker 4: For me at college was always like a big night.

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Speaker 4: That was like the start of like getting it going.

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Speaker 3: See we were Tuesday on Tuesday night was the one

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Speaker 4: Was like okay to see that was like we didn't

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Speaker 3: It was Monday for us. Monday was the day off for.

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Speaker 4: Us because Monday we always had wrestling.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah football, Yeah, Mondays was off with Mondays. If

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Speaker 3: there was one off, Mondays was a day went to

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Speaker 3: So if there's two types of mindset of like college,

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Speaker 3: was like all right, let's we gotta find some chicks.

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Speaker 3: Thursday sacred day. Well that makes sense. I mean you

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Speaker 1: Yeah. As a journalism major, absolutely, you're good.

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Speaker 3: You get to Thursday, you're cruising.

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Speaker 3: Tacos because tacos here was an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: They give us a chance, They give us a chance

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Speaker 4: People are bent out of shape. He made the video,

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Speaker 4: No, you gotta watch it. Did you watch a g man?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Maybe people took it. I just if you if you go,

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Speaker 4: There's so he throws that. Just watch the towelway so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think at least just a lot different,

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Speaker 3: So to hold it against him, he's looking for work, He's.

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Speaker 4: Looking for work, you know, cut in So we did, right,

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, does not bug me at all. Pro

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Speaker 1: G Man, Yeah, I know, we got got Costco. Costco's

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Speaker 1: we got Costco. That is the that is the mock today.

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah and Kuiper both dropped. It's funny. People were like,

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Speaker 4: Like, come on, We've only taken a quarterback in the

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Speaker 4: during that period, which would have allowed for multiple, multiple

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Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. So like when I see this stuff about

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, who would what would need to happen

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Speaker 4: It's that it's a team picking at the end of

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Speaker 4: to thirty, twenty to thirty two, team picking twenty to

438
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Speaker 4: thirty two, that gets such an offer from somebody picking

439
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Speaker 4: thirty three, thirty four to thirty five, thirty six, maybe

440
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Speaker 4: even to come into the first round and they are

441
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Speaker 4: will to exit the first round.

442
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Speaker 3: All right, that's it. So here are your You said

443
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 3: twenty two to thirty two, So that's the Chargers, aren't

444
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think they would trade their So.

445
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: I m'd even say, like twenty if what are the

446
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 4: Steelers twenty one, twenty one? Now that's say let's say

447
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 4: that it was there was one quarterback left that was

448
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 4: of interest in that people thought this Steelers are gonna

449
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Speaker 4: take them. I think you could see somebody go from thirty.

450
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Speaker 3: To twenty to twenty. That's where Denver picks, and they

451
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Speaker 3: have him taking your boy McMillan at twenty. Yeah, then

452
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 3: it's green Bay, it's Minnesota, Houston, Rammitt Ravens at twenty seven,

453
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 3: Detroit at twenty eight, Washington twenty nine, Buffalo thirty, Case

454
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Speaker 3: thirty one, and Philly is thirty.

455
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Speaker 4: I could see Washington maybe moving back if it's small,

456
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Speaker 4: like if they're moving twenty nine to thirty three, which

457
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 4: would be US thirty four to thirty five, and they

458
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Speaker 4: pick up something because they gave a pick, remember for

459
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 4: Laramie Tunsel to like buttress their future drafts. I could

460
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Speaker 4: see something like that.

461
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Speaker 3: At Philly at thirty two. Yeah, I could see that,

462
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Speaker 3: like somebody's some quarterback had slipped shoot or Jackson and

463
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Speaker 3: somebody doesn't want to risk US or Tennessee take him

464
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Speaker 3: at the top of the second round. Yeah, jump up

465
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Speaker 3: to thirty two. And Philly's always been a team that's

466
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Speaker 3: pretty good with asset management.

467
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Speaker 5: Yep.

468
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's probably about the only way that can go.

469
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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball is underway. The Dodgers beat the Cubs

470
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Speaker 3: this morning for to one in Tokyo. This felt like

471
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Speaker 3: it happened in a closet, right, Yeah.

472
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Speaker 4: I mean until you said that out loud, I didn't know.

473
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Speaker 1: I had no idea. I got on my phone this

474
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Speaker 1: morning to start looking for stuff, and they were like, show, hey,

475
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Speaker 1: Otani gets the first hit of the Major League baseball season. Yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: And I was like what, Yeah?

477
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Speaker 3: They had. Apparently in what Japanese baseball culture is when

478
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Speaker 3: you introduce a guy to bat, they go silent, so

479
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Speaker 3: they don't cheer, they go silent. So like Otani when

480
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: he went to the plate, it was silent as a

481
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: sign of respect. So it gets you thinking about him.

482
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Speaker 3: So he's going back to back MVPs. He's going for

483
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Speaker 3: three in a row. Travis Hunter, who I voted for

484
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Speaker 3: for the Heisman, and I think, did something that has

485
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: never been done before in college football when he said

486
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, like what he's trying to

487
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: do is harder than what Otani's doing. No, not, not,

488
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Speaker 3: There's been other guys who have played both ways in football,

489
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Speaker 3: not to the extent that he did. That's there's no

490
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Speaker 3: precedent for in college you gotta go way back fifty sixty,

491
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Speaker 3: seventy years. Otani. The only one to ever do it

492
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Speaker 3: is Ruth. I mean, you're over one hundred years yep,

493
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Speaker 3: since you've had somebody be the best hitter in the

494
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Speaker 3: game and a top ten pitcher in the game when healthy,

495
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Speaker 3: which it seems like what he is. Yeah, so that's

496
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: that's one of one, that's greatest player of all time stuff, yep,

497
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Speaker 3: is what he is. So maybe Travis gets there, but

498
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Speaker 3: not yet.

499
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Speaker 1: I'd like to watch him try to hit one of

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Speaker 1: class's fastballs.

501
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Speaker 3: Otani, No, Travis Hunter. Oh yeah, well I don't know

502
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: if he would do that. Well, now, his coach could

503
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: probably get a bat on it. I'm sure coach Prime could. Yeah,

504
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: he's a hell of a baseball player. All right, I

505
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: had this was today at school for your spirit animal. Okay,

506
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: so today was animal Day. Animal Day. So what we

507
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: what we had kind of decided was is hey, let's

508
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Speaker 3: wear like a jersey with an animal or something like that, Grizzlies,

509
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 3: Montana Grizzlies, Montana State, Bobcats, something like that would be lovely.

510
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: So then we got a lot of this gear, like

511
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 3: let's go that he comes down the stairs in a

512
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Speaker 3: head to toe full on tigger Halloween costume.

513
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny when you said to me that

514
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: he was having animal Day, I thought of the animals

515
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 4: that my spirit animal would want to be, and I

516
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: thought of a dolphin, a tiger. These, that's true. He

517
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 4: didn't take tiger. And then the other wife thought maybe

518
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 4: would be a nod in montanas like a grizzly bear.

519
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: And I could also see him as a bald eagle.

520
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: But I know that's soaring that animal I don't know

521
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Speaker 4: it is.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's animal.

523
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

524
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Speaker 3: So he comes downstairs and I should have known it

525
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Speaker 3: was coming last night, after after I had texted with

526
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: you and I got done walking Buddy Garty. He was

527
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: down on the court and he was playing basketball in

528
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Speaker 3: the tigger outfit, like just getting shots up.

529
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 4: So he wanted to practice.

530
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: So I think you wanted to see if he that's

531
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Speaker 3: you think getting into his head, you know exactly what

532
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: he thinks. I didn't think of that. That's exactly what

533
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: it was. He was like, can I still play hoops

534
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: with the boys if I'm in the Tigger out Yeah?

535
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 3: Turns out he could. He's So he comes downstairs at

536
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: it and I said, Buddy, first of all, I'm laughing.

537
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, you look great, spectacular. I love the energy, enthusiasm,

538
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 3: and yes, it's all there. Yeah, why who wouldn't want

539
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: to be Tigger for a day? Right? The guy's having

540
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: the best time ever. He just bounces around. So but

541
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: I said, it might just be that this is a

542
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: little bit of a distraction in the class at recess

543
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: at lunch, and maybe that this isn't necessarily that maybe

544
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: we shouldn't for those reasons. And so he goes, I'll

545
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: tell you how it goes. I'll tell you how it goes.

546
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: So he uh, he goes. He goes, Okay, that's okay.

547
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: And he ends up and he had like a Philly

548
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: water dog's like PLLL jersey with a dog on it.

549
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's perfect. So fast forward. We go

550
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: to drop off, and we drop off, and I said

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Speaker 3: to my wife, I said, was there anyone else that

552
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: was dressed head to toe that he missed out on?

553
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: And she said not one. So I go, okay, we

554
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: led him wisely, he's not out. He's we did the

555
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: right thing. It would have been something where he would

556
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: have been a big center of attention and which he

557
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: would have enjoyed, but also there would have been maybe

558
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: it could have gotten negative at some points.

559
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Speaker 4: Well, because we are one and the same. It would

560
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: remind me of when I was a young man and

561
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Speaker 4: we had a water day at school, which was going

562
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 4: to consist of like water balloon fights and all these

563
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: different games outside was in the summer or whatever. So

564
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Speaker 4: when I hear that it's like water day and there's

565
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Speaker 4: water balloon fights, to me, that means like, as soon

566
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Speaker 4: as I step on campus, go time, it's on.

567
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Speaker 3: It's on, dude.

568
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Speaker 4: So I, being the young, zesty person and that I was,

569
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: came armed. I had water balloons at the ready, cracked

570
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Speaker 4: a couple of the eight or eighth grade girls on

571
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: the swings. I guess who didn't get the participating water

572
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: an shut me down? Out what I do? What I do?

573
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: It's you said, you said this is a day of

574
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Speaker 4: water balloon fights and water fun. I was having fun.

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Speaker 3: It had to be it had to commence.

576
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it had to be, I guess, like organized chaos

577
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: and now we ring a bell And wait a second,

578
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying.

579
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Speaker 3: You said water balloon day.

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Speaker 4: It didn't say anywhere water balloon activity and commence until

581
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Speaker 4: ten am.

582
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Speaker 3: Do you remember the girls you went at, like, were

583
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Speaker 3: they ones that had annoyed you? They were just girls?

584
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: They were there were girls that I knew because I

585
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: was I was young, and so then you know, you

586
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 4: become like the I don't know if this happens anymore

587
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 4: on our side, but like back then, I feel like,

588
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: you know, the eighth gear girls would always find like

589
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: the young guy, like, not in that way, but like

590
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: the young boys to be kind of like their mascots

591
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: basically yah yeah yeah, support like a mothering Yeah yeah yeah,

592
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: you were like they were like your school moms, and

593
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: I know what you mean, yes, uh and so yeah,

594
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 4: it's like people that I knew like that. They kind

595
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: of thought it was funny. And my punishment, though was

596
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: to spend all day in that eighth grade class, which

597
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 4: actually wasn't much of a punishment at all, but but

598
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Speaker 4: I did long to be out there throwing more water,

599
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: but of course she did. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do those things anymore. No, no, no,

601
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Speaker 3: not at all. All Right, there you go. Those are

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Speaker 3: I think that there is disbelief in what's actually happening

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Speaker 3: here around the draft, and it's all real. It's been real,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be real, and it's going to

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Speaker 3: be spectacular. But it's almost like, well, wait a second,

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Speaker 3: that can't really be, but no it is.

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Speaker 4: And you're referring to the Browns Draft Party this year.

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Speaker 4: That's twenty twenty five Draft Party, four season ticket members.

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Speaker 4: It's the Draft Alady and season ticket members. They get

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Speaker 4: in there for free for free Rock and Roll Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame Inductee Journey Again. This is a free concert

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Speaker 4: for all season ticket members. Again. It is a free

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Speaker 4: concert for all season ticket members free. It's taking place

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Speaker 4: at Huntington bank Field. Journey is playing a full concert.

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Speaker 4: This full concert, full concert.

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Speaker 3: YEP, Journey. Yeah, don't say.

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Speaker 4: Don't stop believing. This has happened in Thursday, April twenty four,

635
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Speaker 4: starting at six pm until the draft begins at APM.

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Speaker 4: So you're getting a two hour concert with Journey.

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Speaker 3: YEP.

638
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: I imagine you might see Journey after the number two

639
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that you could think.

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00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: I think we can maybe even get our heads around

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00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: the direction that might GOEP. You can transfer and or

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Speaker 4: resell your seats, it is true. Food and beverage available,

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Speaker 4: dog dog rewards benefits are in place.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

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00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: So if you're a season ticket member and you have

647
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Speaker 4: four season tickets, you know how many free tickets you

648
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: get to this Journey concert. Four If you have six tickets,

649
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean you get six free tickets. That's right, you

650
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: get a free ticket for every seat on your account.

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Speaker 4: It will be, quite frankly, the single biggest draft party

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Speaker 4: in the National Football League in the year twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: and some are saying it is the biggest draft party

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Speaker 4: in the history of the National Football League for a

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Speaker 4: single team.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are saying that.

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Speaker 4: We can't get we can't say it isn't.

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Speaker 3: I think it might be stadium and it's gonna be Journey.

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Speaker 4: Sixty people, maybe more. Who's to say, But that is

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Speaker 4: the deal. So I know people are confused about because

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Speaker 4: it probably sounded too good to be true. What's the catch. No,

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Speaker 4: if you are a season ticket member for the Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Browns and you have renewed, you're in. You're ready to go.

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Speaker 4: If you're a season ticket member, you will get one

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Speaker 4: free ticket for every seat on your account to this. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it is Journey, it is the real Journey. They are

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Speaker 4: playing a two hour free concert oh great Man Thursday,

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Speaker 4: April twenty four, starting at six p m. And like

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Speaker 4: I said, you can transfer, resell your seats, but if

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Speaker 4: you want to be there, you want to see Journey,

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Speaker 4: you get to do it for free. I will not

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Speaker 4: stop believing in the Cleveland Browns. I will not stop

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Speaker 4: believing in journeying, and I will not stop believing in

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Speaker 4: the fact that this draft you can be in that stadium.

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Speaker 4: When the Browns announced, hopefully the quarterback of the future

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Speaker 4: and it'll be a heck of a time.

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Speaker 3: Man, dude, it's going to be unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable night.

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Speaker 3: And I'm saying, and they're from your homeland. Yeah, San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: What a place you know that they I just was

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Speaker 3: pulling this up. They've sold over one hundred million records.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and ten million records. Feels like a lot

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Speaker 3: for the folks at Journey. Yeah, it's a lot. That's

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Speaker 3: a lot of records. So that's awesome. That's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a really cool night and that only amplifies it. What

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Speaker 3: do you think is? Who do you think has sold

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Speaker 3: the most albums ever?

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Speaker 4: H Can you give me a genre rock band?

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Speaker 3: YEP, it's who you think.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it is who I think?

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Speaker 3: Aerosmith, Aerosmiths High No, the Beatles, The Beatles, Beatles between

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Speaker 3: U two total claim sales of between six and five

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Speaker 3: hundred and six hundred million WOW certified units two hundred

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Speaker 3: and ninety five point nine.

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Speaker 4: Michael Jackson is two, so I thought Michael Jackson King

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Speaker 4: of Pop.

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Speaker 3: Yeap, Elvis Presley is three, Elton John four, Wow, Queen five, Madonna,

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Speaker 3: led Zeppelin, Zeppelin.

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Speaker 4: I was on the tip of my tongue as well.

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Speaker 3: Rihanna and Pink Floyd.

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Speaker 4: Rihanna, I think about where Rihanna being on that list

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Speaker 4: compared to everybody else that's on that list is a

702
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Speaker 4: pretty good account. There's not a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she is the most verified.

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Speaker 4: How can they mention how can they even comprehend record

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Speaker 4: sales anymore?

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Speaker 3: So they have claim sales, but then they have verified units.

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Speaker 3: And Rihanna actually is number one on that four hundred

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Speaker 3: and eleven point two million verified units.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what if a unit is in this,

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Speaker 4: but that's for her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Beyonce way up there. Yeah, there you go. That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: So that's very good. In addition to that, you have

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Speaker 3: some other things you want to clear up there, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah, so uh business of the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The Brown's actually four minutes ago just released a press

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Speaker 4: release that says has some sports group today reiterates reiterated

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Speaker 4: its actions and investments to ensure a thriving, long term

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Speaker 4: future for the Cleveland Browns. It's fans Greater Cleveland and

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Speaker 4: Northeast Ohio. Apparently there's some response to the model litigation

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Speaker 4: that's going on now, and I'll just kind of get

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Speaker 4: through some of the highlights in here. The heart of

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Speaker 4: the commit would be a new enclosed NFL stadium in

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Speaker 4: mixed use development to be built in brook Park, Ohio,

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Speaker 4: without impacting any existing taxpayer revenue streams and relieving Cleveland

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Speaker 4: of any stadium related taxpayer expenses. Centerpiece of the project

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Speaker 4: the state of the art and closed stadium for the Browns,

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Speaker 4: consistent with other world class, world class NFL stadiums that

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Speaker 4: can host major year round events, sit less than a

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Speaker 4: mile from Cleveland city limits, anchor a mixed use development

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Speaker 4: to catalyze meaningful economic impact for Cleveland surrounding region. So

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Speaker 4: location the heart of the greater Cleveland metropolitan area is

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Speaker 4: particularly important with eighty five percent of home game attendees

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Speaker 4: living outside of city limits. So one of the things

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Speaker 4: about the Model Law that was you know, invoked, is

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Speaker 4: talking about a team breaking a lease, moving the team

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Speaker 4: to a different state. That's what Art Modell did. Yep,

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Speaker 4: this is the Browns are not moving out of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: In fact, the Browns are moving to brook Park, which,

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Speaker 4: as they just said, is you know, a mile from

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Speaker 4: the city limits of Cleveland. Now even moving out of

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Speaker 4: the county, saying in Cuyote County, and this is an

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Speaker 4: investment in the county of upwards of two billion of

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Speaker 4: the haslm's own money. Ted Taiwang, the hsg's chief administrative

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Speaker 4: officer in General Council, stated, city has never explained how

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Speaker 4: the model law could sensibly apply to the Browns, who

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Speaker 4: will continue to play games in its stadium until the

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Speaker 4: expiration of its lease, and whose owners have committed to

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Speaker 4: keeping the team in the local area long after the

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Speaker 4: lease expires. In fact, the hasls propose unprecedented private investment

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Speaker 4: in a world class stateium, it's running development, and they're

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Speaker 4: continue un waivering commitment to northeast Ohio. Are the complete

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Speaker 4: opposite of the Modell situation. He says, this a lot

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Speaker 4: better than I did. It's also important to recognize and

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Speaker 4: at least ten NFL teams play their home games in

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Speaker 4: metropolitan areas outside of the city they represent, so our

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Speaker 4: proposal is entirely consistent with other hometown teams across the country.

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Speaker 4: In fact, our actions in court are intended to ensure

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Speaker 4: that the city's irresponsible and baseless attempt to apply the

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Speaker 4: model Law to the Browns does not slow our momentum

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Speaker 4: to build a world class stadium right here in Northeast

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Speaker 4: Ohio for the Browns our fans in the Northeast Ohio region.

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Speaker 4: So today's filing affirms that, far from running from the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland AREAHSG is reinforcing its commitment and increasing its investment

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Speaker 4: in the region in an unprecedented way. HSDD, together with

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Speaker 4: Development Partners, is committing to invest more than two billion

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Speaker 4: in private capital and a total project that would represent

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Speaker 4: three point four billion in economic development. Here's what d

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Speaker 4: and Jimmy HASLM said, quote the Cleveland Browns and our

771
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: community need and deserve a new home, and from the outset,

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Speaker 4: we have been unequivocal that it must positively benefit our

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Speaker 4: community in Northeast Ohio. The proposed Huntington, Bankfield and Brook

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Speaker 4: Park meets this vital jove and will reflect positively on

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Speaker 4: our world class region it's promising future. It also reflects

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Speaker 4: our one hundred percent commitment to keeping the Browns in

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Speaker 4: their home market for generations to come. And there you

778
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: know you and I know how great this will be.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand, I don't get it. I don't mean

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Speaker 4: anybody's upset about them.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there. I don't know that they are.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't say any puny back at all.

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Speaker 3: It's it's going to be unbelievable. Yes, Like you've been

784
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Speaker 3: to revolutionary Minnesota. It's the same folks and so, and

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Speaker 3: it's years of technology on top of it. Yes, so

786
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: it will be what Minnesota is plus plus think about

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Speaker 3: the venue around it, the ease of which to get

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Speaker 3: in and out, like come on, I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: and let alone all the things that you and I

790
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: have been talking about long before this was even new.

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Speaker 3: We knew this was possible. We've talked about the Wrestlemani's

792
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: the Final Fours, We've talked about Super Bowls. All those

793
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Speaker 3: things are become real.

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Speaker 4: Buckey's game in that I guess. Of course the game

795
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Speaker 4: would be in that stadium.

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Speaker 3: Of course there's going to be a Buckeye game in

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Speaker 3: that stadium. They're going to go to sixteen, and they

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00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: it'd be so easy. They have a football ferrari down there.

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Speaker 3: They'd rather play in pristine conditions, So yes, they would

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: do those those type of things. It's it's a win

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00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: for everybody in the region, win for the state, win

802
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: for the organization. Win for the fans, yes, a win

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Speaker 3: for the face. Everybody talks about how they love going

804
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: to the frozen games and the cold rain games. A

805
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: lot of empty seats. Yeah, you know why because it sucks.

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Speaker 4: Because it's not fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not fun. No. No, For the one time

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00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: that it's a beautiful snow globe, jamis beating Pittsburgh, there's

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: eight times where the stadium's half full because the weather

810
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: stinks and you're hiding and concourse is not watching the game. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and that's the reality of it, all right, we will

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Speaker 3: go around the league. Coming up Nexturalist to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Around the League, presented by Lee Filter, official

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Speaker 3: guttaguard of Your Cleveland Browns. The Eagles have reworked the

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Speaker 3: contract a veteran offensive tackle Lane Johnson. The restructure adds

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Speaker 3: eight million over the next two years. In additional thirty

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Speaker 3: million in guarantees. He's now at a contract through twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty seven. Their process is the process SIMS. That's Simpsy's nice.

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Speaker 4: How about it?

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Speaker 3: How about it? Good job at a Simsy. No, the uh,

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Speaker 3: their process. They are the model franchise.

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Speaker 4: Well that's and we've run our franchise in many ways

829
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: like that. We just have not gotten the quarterback or

830
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: hit on some things. But some of the salary cap

831
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Speaker 4: things we do, the way we do extensions and restructures

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Speaker 4: and all of that were the two teams operating on

833
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Speaker 4: that plane. Yeah, we just unfortunately not gotten the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's wild. I mean to win two Super

836
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: Bowls over that time, to be almost entire relevant almost

837
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: the entire time, and to do so with different quarterbacks.

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00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they drafted Wentz and he was great, and

839
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: then it didn't work out and they pivoted. It's just

840
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: it's it's good drafting, it's good development, and it's good

841
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: good organization. This one from the Steelers. This is veteran

842
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward who is fed up waiting on a decision

843
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: for Aaron Rodgers. This is from Hayward on his Not

844
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Speaker 3: Just Football podcast.

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Speaker 6: I think doing that or darkness darkness, treat, retreat. I

846
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 6: don't mean any of that crap, like either you want

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Speaker 6: to be a Pittsburgh Steeler you don't. That's that's simple.

848
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Speaker 6: That's the pitch. Like if you want me to recruit,

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Speaker 6: that's the recruiting pitch. You know, Pittsburgh Steelers. If you

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Speaker 6: want to be part of it, so be it. If

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Speaker 6: you don't, No no skin on my back.

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Speaker 4: I like that, and I think that's how a lot

853
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: of people feel. And I think that that's why this

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00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: maybe isn't his slam dunk of a situation. People are

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00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: not willing to based on how the last two years

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Speaker 4: have gone. Obviously one not his fault due to injury,

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Speaker 4: but then last year was there and they were not

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Speaker 4: very good that It's not like they're going to bend

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00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: over backwards to try to get Aaron Rodgers in their program.

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Speaker 4: I think people are very aware that he brings with

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Speaker 4: them not only talent, but distractions and other things that

862
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: were considered maybe not necessarily so good for that Jets

863
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Speaker 4: organization last year. And do you want my recruiting pitch?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to be a Steeler? Cool? Not cool?

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Speaker 4: Were the Steelers one hundred?

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Speaker 3: And I think what I come away with it feeling

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Speaker 3: is like this. I think if Aaron Rodgers is going

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Speaker 3: to play football next year, it's got to be Minnesota.

869
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Speaker 3: And I don't think Minnesota wants him. I think he

870
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: put it out there in the last week. His folks,

871
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: they got it leaked out that boy, Minnesota's kind of intriguing,

872
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: and if Minnesota wanted him, they would have signed him.

873
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

874
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: I think it would be done.

875
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: I think it would be done like if Minnesota was locked,

876
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: like yeah, absolutely, then they would have signed him, and

877
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: this thing would be done. Nothing is changing in the

878
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers scenario or the Giant scenario. He obviously's not

879
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: crazy about either one of them. New York probably because

880
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: they're not anywhere near in terms of being a contender

881
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: in a really tough division, and Pittsburgh maybe that's a

882
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: little overwhelming, like going into something that is very similar

883
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: to Green Bay from a culture situation and a very

884
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: set of rules, Like he's not getting run of the mill,

885
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: run of the kingdom in Pittsburgh. No, Like they have

886
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: cam Heyward and make it Fitzpatrick and TJ. They have

887
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: gatekeepers say this is how you behave like they're not

888
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: going to put up with a bunch of nonsense and

889
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: that type of divisiveness the way that he potentially could

890
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: bring it. So to me, I think it's trending more

891
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: time he's not going to play at all. Yeah, because

892
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: I don't think Minnesota's in And I wonder.

893
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: If somebody really wanted Russ, well, he'd be signed too.

894
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: I wonder if he could he be done or do

895
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: you think he lands somewhere?

896
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: It feels like it feels like Pittsburgh is waiting on Aaron,

897
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: but at some point you can't. You can't wait any longer.

898
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: It also feels to me like Russ would rather play

899
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh than he would in New York, which is

900
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: a little surprising. Or maybe New York says, you know what,

901
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: we're good. Well, who's the quarterbacks? Who's who are the

902
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: jeff Giants quarterbacks right now? Who's on their roster? Uh?

903
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 4: Tommy, Yeah?

904
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: Is that it?

905
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: I think?

906
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 5: So?

907
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: Is Drew Locke still there? Tommy DeVito? They're visiting with Jamis?

908
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: I think today Locke is a free agent. Yeah, So

909
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: I think they're visiting with Jamis today. Jamis would be great,

910
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, elite neighbors, meet the neighbors, break it in

911
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: sand guy at a price.

912
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only roster, the only quarterback they have, it know,

913
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: is Tommy DeVito.

914
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 4: The only quarterback that we've got the healthy.

915
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: Is the only quarterback the Steelers have his Mason Rudolph.

916
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: That's right.

917
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson is also.

918
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

919
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 4: Well, if you saw Skeller Thompson in Miami last year,

920
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: I'm not as concerned about that.

921
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you think he plays or not? Rogers?

922
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I kind of am with you. I

923
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 4: think like if he thought that, if the Vikings are like, yeah,

924
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: I would know we're good. If you wanted to play

925
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: for the Steelers, I think he'd be a Steeler. But

926
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: that sounds like Cam Hayward right there.

927
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: He said, enough? Yes done? Yeah, where the Steelers again?

928
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: Come on? The Viking's have released longtime center Garrett Bradberry.

929
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: The Eagles and veteran defensive end Brandon Graham announced his

930
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: retirement today. My goodness, what a career.

931
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: Incredible, incredible, that's forever? Half is he half? I don't

932
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: know where you pull it up?

933
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 6: Right?

934
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: Two times? Super Bowl Champ I'm gonna say no, probably

935
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: an enough all pros is my guess. I guess there's

936
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: probably not off all.

937
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: My guess is I'm gonna in my mind he feels

938
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: like maybe a one All Pro and maybe a five

939
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: time Pro Bowler. That's probably what he feels like like.

940
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: He's definitely an Eagles legend. I mean, he has the

941
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: greatest play in Philadelphia Eagles.

942
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: It's just one time Pro Bowl.

943
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Okay, that's stripsack against Brady and Super Bowl, the.

944
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, two Pro Bowl, one second team All Pro.

945
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: Only one double digit sex season in his career. I

946
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't have had that and that was in twenty twenty

947
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: two at the age of thirty four.

948
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

949
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: No, all with Philly. No, the whole run with Philly.

950
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: Ye first round pick out of Michigan. Yep, somebody six

951
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: and a half course sex yet not a not a

952
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, but a very solid Eagles legends.

953
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Speaking of the Eagles, they added free agent pass

954
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: rusher Azi's Ajelari one year, four million on that contract.

955
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: So Josh sweat, Brandon Graham out o Jelari and Joss

956
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: uce in in Philly. So they're gonna they'll be just fine.

957
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're gonna have a Mo conversation with

958
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: John Costco. Here in just a second, Todd mcshay's back

959
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: in the game. He's at the ringer now.

960
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

961
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: The McShay report is in. It starts with a breakdown

962
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: of why Shadour Sanders to the Browns makes a lot

963
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: of sense. Here is mcshae from his podcast on Shadoor

964
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: to the Browns.

965
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 7: All I'm gonna say is this, given everything that I

966
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 7: just said, and it's your floor. A week ago, I

967
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 7: glossed over Cleveland taking Shadoor at number two. Right now,

968
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 7: I believe, and I want you to hear me when

969
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 7: I say this, I truly believe Shadoor Sanders is in

970
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 7: play with that number two pick for the Cleveland Browns.

971
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean we were saying that at the combine.

972
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 4: So he went on. He said, for starters, it's apparent

973
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: that Cleveland is on the list of acceptable spots for

974
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: shadord Land, which isn't the case for every team in

975
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: the NFL draft market. And while I've reported that two

976
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 4: teams who interviewed Sanders at this scounting combine weren't overly impressed,

977
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: sort and nothing, Cleveland was not one of those teams.

978
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: Also made some calls to people I trust who have

979
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: been in that GM seat, who are or have been

980
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: in that GM seat, for their perspective on the situation,

981
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: should or skill set is strikingly similar to the handful

982
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 4: of quarterbacks the Fancy's won a lot of games within

983
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 4: the past, including case Keenuman won eleven games, Kirk Cousins,

984
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 4: whose team won ten games under Stefanskian. Most recently a

985
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: late career Joe Flacco went four to one, although I

986
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: don't really see how his skill set mirrors Joe Flacco.

987
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: To me, he's more like, if he's going to be

988
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: at his best in the NFL, he's going to be

989
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: like a Cousins, a goth yeah, burrough Stroud, light.

990
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, purty, yeah, really accurate, really smart kid, really

991
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: tough kid.

992
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 4: Yep.

993
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: Would be somebody who the terminology offensively would be pretty

994
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: close to a mirror. I'm sure just that they didn't

995
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: run the same thing at Colorado because of what they

996
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: had from a skill position standpoint, what they didn't have upfront.

997
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: But in terms of like the language, I'm guessing a

998
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: lot of what Shermer uses is what Kevin uses me

999
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: and Pat Shermer as this coordinated.

1000
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: Last time in Minnesota, Kevin Stefanski was this quarterback coach.

1001
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: So we are going to have there's no doubt in

1002
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: my mind, we are going to have incredible insight into

1003
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 4: exactly what Shodoor Sanders is as a quarterback. Perhaps better

1004
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 4: insight than any team in the league.

1005
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: I think we have better insight than any team in

1006
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: the league on both who should have very good insight.

1007
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: There are a lot of time there are, but Glenn's

1008
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: pretty locked in on that. So yeah, and this goes

1009
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: back to what we said, we don't know who they

1010
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: like more, but they should and if they like one

1011
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: more than the other because they're different, very different taste.

1012
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: I think I think both can be stuts.

1013
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: I do too. But if you think there's a gap,

1014
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: if your evaluation, then figure out that.

1015
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: Get that guy, yeah, go do it. Go up there

1016
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: and get it done.

1017
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: Go do it.

1018
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1019
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: So that's it's this is gonna be. It's gonna be.

1020
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 3: When's the draft? April twenty is it? The sixth, seventh?

1021
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Twenty four through twenty six?

1022
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: The Great Batlin twenty four through the twenty six b

1023
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: Lynch popping around, goodness see good to see. Yeah, So

1024
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: you you got a month, little more than a month

1025
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: before the draft, So Pro Day's starting today. This stuff's

1026
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: starting to get pretty serious on that side of things,

1027
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: all right. Coming up next, John Costco Pro Football Focus.

1028
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: He is a big fan of Jackson Dart. What does

1029
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: he see in Dart versus Sanders? What does he make

1030
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks? He will join us. Coming up next

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00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,080
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Speaker 3: the program at Pro Football Focus, and he joins us there.

1048
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: You have a very recent mock draft out as well,

1049
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: my friend, before we get in to that and as

1050
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: you match all of those things up, I don't believe

1051
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: we've talked to you since these quarterbacks have been in

1052
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: the mix and now you've had a lot of time

1053
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: to study him. In terms of the guys at the top,

1054
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: who do you love? Where are the question marks?

1055
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 5: Hey b good to be on the program. Yeah, these

1056
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: guys at the top of the the board. You know,

1057
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 5: I'm I'm a big fan of just all three of

1058
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: these quarterbacks. I think they all have NFL caliber traits

1059
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 5: and capability is to become franchise quarterbacks. And so for me,

1060
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 5: the reason why I would say you take them, you know,

1061
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 5: high in the draft is because they have those capabilities.

1062
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 5: And sure they have the they have red flags to

1063
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: their game, shar Sanders. I think all these guys, you

1064
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: know Sanders, including they have issue of taking too many sacks,

1065
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 5: and I think that's you know, a trait these guys

1066
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 5: all share. But I think when you look at like

1067
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 5: Sanders or for him, he played at a really bad program,

1068
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: he had to overcome a lot and each ended up

1069
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: taking a lot of sacks because of it. H Dart

1070
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 5: actually got better against the better competition with with his

1071
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 5: red flag there and of a question mark there. And

1072
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 5: cam Ward, you know, it was his first year in

1073
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 5: a big time program and he excelled there at Miami

1074
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 5: and he got better from his time at Washington State

1075
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: to there. So for me, like I see all these

1076
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 5: red flags these guys have, but I see what they're ceiling.

1077
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: Their capabilities are from their positives that you take away

1078
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: from it, and if you have conviction on the guy,

1079
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 5: you take them at the top of the draft.

1080
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: John, all right, let's go through Ward, Sanders, and Dart.

1081
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: If that's the three that have kind of separated themselves.

1082
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 4: With cam Ward, let's go with give me one or

1083
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: two reasons why you think he can be a top

1084
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 4: sixteen quarterback in the NFL. And then if it doesn't

1085
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: work out, what would be the reason that you think

1086
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 4: it wouldn't.

1087
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this guy has probably the best arm

1088
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 5: talent of those top three guys. He's got a natural

1089
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: throwing rhythm and it's you know, it's not a traditional

1090
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: throwing style, but I don't think that matters. You see

1091
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 5: what can work at the NFL. He makes a lot

1092
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: of big time plays. He's an athletic guy. He he's

1093
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 5: kind of almost like big bend back there. He's not

1094
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 5: obviously as big as as Ben, but he has a

1095
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 5: powerful quarterback and he's a mobile quarterback, and so I

1096
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: think he can. He can develop as a passer where

1097
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 5: you want him to be able to do that because

1098
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: he has that athleticism. He can make those exciting plays

1099
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 5: and those big time throws. He you know, had thirty

1100
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 5: one big time throws in twenty twenty four alone, and

1101
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 5: I think so, I think he can. That's the reason

1102
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 5: why he can succeed in the NFL. What things that

1103
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: needs to work on potentially why he wouldn't work out

1104
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 5: is I think he tends to hang on to the

1105
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 5: ball a little bit too long, passes up but you

1106
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 5: know the easy stuff underneath to just to kind of

1107
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 5: keep the chains moving or just to get a couple

1108
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 5: of positive yards. He's always looking for that big time throw,

1109
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: and a lot of times it happens to his detriment.

1110
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 5: Sanders you know, I love I love what he's able

1111
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 5: to do with a really bad team at Colorado. If

1112
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 5: you take him off that team, that team is not

1113
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 5: a playoff contending team. They're probably getting two to three

1114
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 5: wins for them. So he came into a program that

1115
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 5: was one of the worst in college football, elevated that

1116
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: program to playoff contention in two years. Uh and had

1117
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 5: one of the worst offensive lines in all of college football,

1118
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 5: one of the worst running games in all of college football.

1119
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 5: And it was basically all on his shoulders, and he

1120
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 5: was able to do that. He stood tall in the

1121
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 5: pocket against pressure. He took some massive shots under pressure

1122
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 5: with big time throws. Again. His his issue though, was

1123
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: taking too many sacks, and a lot of times you'd

1124
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 5: have actually a clean pocket would would scramble out of

1125
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 5: a clean pocket right into some pressure and take a

1126
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 5: take a sack, taking trying to do too much with

1127
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 5: what he you know, what was there, sometimes needing to

1128
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: throw it away or maybe taking that checkdown option like

1129
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 5: like Ward would need.

1130
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: To Jehifer dark me just jump real quick on those

1131
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 4: two because it's it's very good stuff. I don't think

1132
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 4: that people factor in at all, how talent deficient Colorado

1133
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 4: was relative to their competition almost week in and week out.

1134
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: I don't think that that is something that's looked at,

1135
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 4: and to me makes what he did all the more impressive.

1136
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 4: On the other hand, with Ward, so the two things right,

1137
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: I think, and it kind of it comes from the

1138
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: same thing with Ward and Sanders trying to do too much.

1139
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: And I think one of the big questions with projecting

1140
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: either one of these guys or both of them to

1141
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 4: the next level is how are those things that you

1142
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 4: know over time you've seen that are able to be coached.

1143
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 4: For example, can you get kim wardbile just take the layup.

1144
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: We don't need to hit a home run on every

1145
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 4: just take take the easy one here, don't try to

1146
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: make every play a chunk play, even though he use

1147
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: a chunk play machine. And then for Shador, I think

1148
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 4: a lot of times you probably had to be seeing ghosts.

1149
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember there was a stretch in the

1150
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: Baylor game. I think he was sacked five times and

1151
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: then still in five plays and then still made unbelievable

1152
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 4: plays and rallied his team around that afterwards. You know,

1153
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: how do you evaluate taking the traits and then also

1154
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: taking then you know the weaknesses, understanding the circumstances of

1155
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: the weaknesses, and then are those things that can be

1156
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: coached out of them at the next level.

1157
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just go back to last year's class. Jayden

1158
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 5: Daniels was similar of that mold where he tried to

1159
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 5: do too much when things broke down and he took

1160
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 5: he took a sack or scrambled for it on over

1161
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 5: fifty fifty two percent of his pressure dropbacks, which is

1162
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 5: in insane number, which is kind of like what you'd

1163
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 5: see from like a Sam Howell. And that was the

1164
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 5: guy I compared him to in terms of just that

1165
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 5: stat because Sam Howell obviously kept went into the NFL

1166
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: and then continued to take sack after sack, which thought

1167
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 5: last year Jayden Danils was phenomenal when when things broke down,

1168
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 5: he was smart with his the scrambling decisions and then

1169
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 5: he was smart with checking it down when he needs to.

1170
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 5: So you absolutely can can develop that that skill and

1171
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 5: that trait because if as long as you get the

1172
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: right coaching and get the right environment around you, I

1173
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 5: think these guys can thrive better. And especially like you said,

1174
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 5: like we had just talked about, like Sanders on that

1175
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: Colorado team. I think he was really just trying to

1176
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 5: eke out as absolute much every single play that he

1177
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 5: was trying to knowing that the talent efficiency that they

1178
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: had and he needed to try to overcome it. So

1179
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's definitely you see, You've seen it

1180
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 5: with with with even Lamar Jackson, he's gotten a lot

1181
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 5: better at that over the course of his career. Josh

1182
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 5: Allen is another guy that really improved over his of

1183
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 5: his early in his career, say even now, where he

1184
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 5: was taking more of those checkdowns, you know, a couple

1185
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 5: just a couple of years ago, he was taking a

1186
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 5: lot of really bad sacks and then trying always trying

1187
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: to go for the hero ball. And he's been a

1188
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: lot better of that, especially the last two years.

1189
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 3: All Right, let's talk about Jackson Dart. You're the first

1190
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: one I've seen with this ascent out of Dart. I've

1191
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: seen others that have had him mocked in, but you

1192
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: have him and Shador kind of in a similar category.

1193
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 3: One thing that I do and I don't. I'm not

1194
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 3: pretending that I'm following scientifically the way you are in

1195
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: terms of your analysis from the PFF perspective, but I'm

1196
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: always curious, like how do you do against like competition?

1197
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 3: And he did struggle in their biggest games last year.

1198
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: Now how many were like competition? Who knows, but they

1199
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: had a couple opportunities. It should have been Kentucky at home,

1200
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: those type of things. And when you look at Dart,

1201
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: what do you like about him? And so much so

1202
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: that you have him in it seems like a similar

1203
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 3: category as Shure.

1204
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, the reason why I like him is that I

1205
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 5: think he's got the tools that have to be an

1206
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: NFL quarterback. And then when you actually just look at

1207
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: the data profile, he actually he actually has the best

1208
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 5: data profile. And you know, I mixed. I try to

1209
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 5: mix as much as they can with like I have

1210
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: to like him on tape for sure, Like if I

1211
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: don't like him on tape, doesn't matter if he has

1212
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 5: a really great data profile, like Daleen Gabriel has a

1213
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 5: great data profile, I don't. I don't like him as

1214
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 5: a prospect at all. I think he has a guy

1215
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: that maybe take a Day three type of flyer on.

1216
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: But at least with with Dart, he's athletic, he's got

1217
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 5: the size and he's got the arm talent to be

1218
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: able to thrive in the NFL, and he can. He

1219
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 5: you know, that Ole Miss system is as far away

1220
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 5: from an NFL system as you possibly can be, But

1221
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: so was the LSU system. So is like many college systems,

1222
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 5: like the college system is completely any college system is

1223
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 5: just far and away from an NFL system that you'll

1224
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 5: get that projecting these guys, you know, hey, this this

1225
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 5: system didn't work for this guy, so it's not going

1226
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: to work for him either, Like Will Greer and all

1227
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 5: that type of stuff that like that to me, that

1228
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: doesn't really I don't really pulled that up because it's

1229
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 5: either you evaluate the guy or you don't. And for Dart,

1230
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: he has the arm strength, he has the accuracy, and

1231
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 5: the accuracies bore out, and I like what I see

1232
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 5: from from a tape perspective and on a data perspective,

1233
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 5: he delivers balls very accurately down the field and he

1234
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 5: doesn't he doesn't miss very often. So I think for me,

1235
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 5: it's like he's accurate and he's he can make good decisions.

1236
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 5: And you look at also, you know, from the intangible standpoint,

1237
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: so you know, for example, at the Senior Bowl week,

1238
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, there was a play I remember that he

1239
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 5: was they simulate these plays in practices, and he had

1240
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 5: a fourth and two on the goal line and and

1241
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 5: basically passed up two wide open options on that play

1242
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: and and end up taking like a throwaway. And it

1243
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 5: was a bad play for him, like obviously not good.

1244
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 5: But then they ran that same play in the game

1245
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 5: and he was able to find his open receiver for

1246
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 5: the game winning touchdown in the Senior Bowl game. To me,

1247
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 5: I see, all right, that's growth from a player that

1248
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 5: I can see that he's learning, uh in you know,

1249
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 5: from a very similar action like like situation there. And

1250
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 5: then you also talk to people that were at the

1251
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: Senior Bowl and how he was interacting with his teammates.

1252
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: He was actually trying to help coach them up and

1253
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 5: being really active in doing so. So he was he

1254
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 5: was leading leading his team out there. So like you know,

1255
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: those things kind of do matter, is it?

1256
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: Is it?

1257
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 5: You know, measurable? No, not really, it's not. Really you

1258
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: can do that, but you have to look and see

1259
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: as that person as a whole. Can this guy, you know,

1260
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: lead an NFL franchise And he was the one of

1261
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 5: the only guys out there that I've seen in these

1262
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: Senior Bowls years. The last guy I saw do it

1263
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: as much as him was Jealen Hurts. But he was

1264
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: a leader out there, and I think that matters.

1265
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing. I don't think people realize

1266
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: how good an athlete he is. He would run it

1267
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: at ole Miss. I think he ran for like thirteen

1268
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 3: hundred yards a dozen touchdowns the three years he was there.

1269
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: He would stick his nose in. He's a tough kid,

1270
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: and he's he's a plus athlete, isn't he?

1271
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 5: John? Yeah, let me let me give you at just

1272
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 5: a stand he's absolutely a press plus athlete. He'd probably

1273
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 5: run in the four to seven type of thing. He

1274
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 5: averaged almost like a for Smith tackle like one out

1275
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 5: of four times per run. That was better than Jalen Milroe.

1276
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: And he had twenty five explosive runs against powerful competition,

1277
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 5: which was also better than Jalen Merroll. And if anybody

1278
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 5: knows anything about Jalen Morroll, that guy's probably running into

1279
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 5: the four to three. That is an an elite athlete

1280
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 5: at position. So he was more efficient running the ball

1281
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 5: than Jalen Milrow was as a scrambler or just a runner.

1282
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 5: So start yea absolutely is a is a plus athlete

1283
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 5: at that position.

1284
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: It's funny. I didn't realize this when I asked the question,

1285
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: but I just pulled up his game log. Three biggest

1286
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: games they played at the end of the year, they

1287
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: went Georgia, Florida, Mississippi State. In the Egg Bowl he

1288
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: ran at eight for fifty against Georgia, fourteen for seventy

1289
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: one against Florida, and then in the Egg Bowl game

1290
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: he ran at thirteen times for seventy seven yards.

1291
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 5: There you go, Yeah, he can do it.

1292
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: There is there.

1293
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 4: So the one thing when we went through and I

1294
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: definitely am starting to watch more tape on Jackson Dart.

1295
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm early in my process with him because I was

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Speaker 4: got really just focus on came in Chador for so long.

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Speaker 4: But one thing that kind of jumped out to me

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Speaker 4: and you have a much better handle on him, that

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Speaker 4: just kind of wasn't necessarily red flag, but was interesting

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Speaker 4: is that in five of the eight games in the

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Speaker 4: SEC he completed fewer than sixty percent of his passes.

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Speaker 4: And that just struck me as very odd. Yeah, what

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Speaker 4: what did you make of that?

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Speaker 5: It's it's so part of it is like you know

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Speaker 5: when you when you have when you watch these games

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Speaker 5: and not every single incompletion is made equally.

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Speaker 4: Sure there sure right, Like like you knows other quarterbacks have

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Speaker 4: no games with under sixty percent in college.

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Speaker 5: True, True, it is true. So like you know, you

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Speaker 5: look at you look at the Florida game for an example, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that game, that game he had. You know, he threw

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Speaker 5: the interception at the end of the game, which was

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Speaker 5: not good, which is obviously like you know, you're down

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Speaker 5: to seven points and you force an interception into triple

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Speaker 5: coverage not good or whatever. They had six drops in

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Speaker 5: that game, so you know you're talking about his reci

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Speaker 5: is not really helping him out in that game. And

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Speaker 5: and I think for from a like from a ball

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Speaker 5: place and standpoint, like we chart this and we we

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Speaker 5: specifically look at did this guy throw an accurate pass

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Speaker 5: or not when he was aiming that throw, and he

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Speaker 5: was one of the best in this in in like

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Speaker 5: actually PFF history in terms of a ball placement from

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Speaker 5: five to twenty five yards down the field. So you know,

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Speaker 5: there's there's part of it of like there's throwaways that

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Speaker 5: happened that obviously hurt your your completion percentage, and there's uh,

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Speaker 5: there's obviously drops that will hurt that hit us thrown

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Speaker 5: type of stuff bat it passes, that will hurt that.

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Speaker 5: But I think for me, it's not it's not too

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Speaker 5: much of a concern. Uh. There is a there is

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Speaker 5: a consistency issue there obviously with with the number of

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Speaker 5: games you're you're completing under sixty percent. But I think

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Speaker 5: for me, if you if he can be more consistent

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Speaker 5: with his mechanics, which we've seen, you know, from a

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Speaker 5: tape perspective, I've seen a ton of really good mechanical movements,

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Speaker 5: He's consistent with it.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I think I think you know, you see it multiple

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Speaker 5: times in NFL recently, especially with Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts, guys that that you know, maybe were inconsistent

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Speaker 5: or struggled with their accuracy in college and they've they've

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Speaker 5: gotten better as they you know, gott into the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And for me, Jackson Dart was better than those guys

1344
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Speaker 5: in college from a ball placement standpoint that you know,

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Speaker 5: the consistency part of it is where you want him

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Speaker 5: to obviously get better.

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Speaker 3: When and it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: So that's this quarterback thing obviously, that is the big

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Speaker 4: thing for the Cleveland Browns obviously to get sorted out

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Speaker 4: this season, and they have an opportunity to do that

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Speaker 4: picking number two. I want to ask you though about

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Speaker 4: number thirty three, because pick thirty three as an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to add another very quality player to this organization. Who

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Speaker 4: are some of the guys you like for the Browns

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Speaker 4: at thirty three?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for you know, you talk about the back end

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Speaker 5: of the first the top of the second. It's hard

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Speaker 5: to obviously imagine who's going to be available there. But

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Speaker 5: this is such a defensive line heavy draft. I think

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Speaker 5: that a lot of those guys are going to be

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Speaker 5: pushed up and it's gonna could potentially push down a

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Speaker 5: guy like at Buca from from Ohio State into that

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Speaker 5: that range. Even if you're looking to fill in those

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Speaker 5: those you know, the second edge guy that a lot

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Speaker 5: of people thinking that the Browns are gonna be taking, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know at Dual Carter if at number two,

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Speaker 5: that's a lot that's I think probably the most popular

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Speaker 5: pick for the Browns, even though they just signed you know,

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Speaker 5: Miles Garrett. The obviously the big biggest tension. You know,

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Speaker 5: you could look at a guy like Nick Skirt and

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Speaker 5: from from Texas A and m uh at the at

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Speaker 5: that edge vision or Mike pel Williams out of Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Those guys might be available down there at the at

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Speaker 5: the bottom of the first or top of the second,

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Speaker 5: but even offensive line would be where I would let

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Speaker 5: love to see them go w to be like a

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Speaker 5: Josh Connerley out of Oregon or maybe a Gray Zabel

1378
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Speaker 5: out of North Dakota State, those guys, you know, the

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Speaker 5: Browns would want to be obviously be able to have

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Speaker 5: a weapon for for Sir Sanders, Let's say they take

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Speaker 5: him at number two. Ye weapons at that So I'm

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Speaker 5: a big fan of the weapons. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 5: of being able to protect them. You know, you just

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Speaker 5: look at the It's wait to be seen if they

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Speaker 5: make a move for another wide receiver in like maybe

1386
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 5: a trade, because we know how how Andrew Barry does

1387
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 5: love his trades for wide receivers and how he hits

1388
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: on them quite often. So it'd be interesting to see

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Speaker 5: if what happens throughout the next thirty seven days until

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Speaker 5: the draft or so whatever it is. So I think

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Speaker 5: the I think a wide receiver, if like a Buca

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01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: come drops down there would be a would be a

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Speaker 5: great pick for them.

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Speaker 3: Home run from your mouth to get Dell's ears, buddy,

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01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: we'd take that for sure. I appreciate you as always.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time today, pal.

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Speaker 5: Hey, my pleasure. Bode Nathan, It's great to be on

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Speaker 5: the program tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great to have you brother.

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Speaker 3: a look at the quarterback tracker. Also a little bit

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Speaker 3: of higher or lower coming up as well. You'll listen

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Speaker 3: presser today. I see Mike Petragley, a good dude down

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Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. There is a image on a on the

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Speaker 3: televisions around the facility here to Stay, and it's the

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Speaker 3: three of them going out for a coin flip. One

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Speaker 3: nice day for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice day. You could want anything else. They're

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 4: gonna be fun and they're gonna be competitive. Just keeping

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Speaker 4: that court again, I really think, how are they going

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 4: to figure the rest of it out? Okay, but I

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01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: feel like they're gonna figure it out well.

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01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 3: The reality is, yeah, they have the heart. Yeah, the

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: score points part's the hardest part. The rest of it,

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01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: how to get a stop here or there? You figure

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01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: you sort those things out. Yeah, there is no update,

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01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: by the way, folks on the quarterback available, Like, there's nothing.

1429
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: It's at a standstill. There's anybody signing anybody anywhere right now.

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01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: The Rogers domino has to fall first. Once that falls,

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: I think the others will maybe fall into place. But

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01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: I think everybody's kind of waiting on Rogers and then

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01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: the trickle down of that. In terms of that us

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01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 3: the Steelers, the Titans. Titans do have a second round

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01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: pick and Will Levis who's there who started game, so

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01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: like they wouldn't have to go that route if they

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01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to. We need to add to our room.

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh needs to add to their room, and the Giants

1439
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: need to add to their room in a big way. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's again, that is the league. The only sure thing

1441
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 4: is you can't win without a quarterback, and so you've

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 4: got to, obviously, if you believe, and again I'll have

1443
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 4: this caveat out there all day long. If nobody believes

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: that these quarterbacks can become top sixteen quarterbacks in the NFL,

1445
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: maximizing their potential and you know, being brought into a

1446
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 4: good environment as I think a quarterback would be here

1447
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, then you don't draft them. But if you do,

1448
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 4: then you draft them.

1449
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: And that's that. What did you make of Tracy Morgan

1450
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: losing at courtside last night?

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 4: No, it looked like he was very ill. My buddy

1452
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 4: was at the game. Deestrum was at the game. He

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01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 4: was at the Yeah, he said they like delay the

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 4: game fifteen minutes like it was a big It was

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Speaker 4: a big to do.

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Speaker 3: I mean the images were quite disturbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: that was not good. No, hope, he's okay, I do too, Yeah,

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,959
Speaker 3: and he's he had he was in that crazy car

1459
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: accident and so he's had some things. It was great

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Speaker 3: to see him on SNL when they did that, but

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Speaker 3: that's that's the way that that goes. So yeah, that

1462
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 3: was crazy to see that last night at MSG. All right,

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Speaker 3: we got a little higher or lower coming your way.

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Speaker 3: Eric Adholm released his post Wave one free agency power

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Speaker 3: rankings yesterday afternoon. Time for a little higher or lower. Hello,

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Speaker 3: g Man Hoigh, all right.

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Speaker 1: It is official. Everyone is zero and zero again.

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Speaker 3: Oh bait.

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Speaker 1: Throw all the rankings out. Number one for Eric at home.

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: He's got the Philadelphia Eagles understand to beat that they

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01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. How about that? I think it's

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: they have. He has the team that they beat the

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs at two. We'll start at number three.

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: With a AFC North rival. We have a list of

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: it is in frustrated. The LL start at three with

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Higher or lower?

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Speaker 3: How did how did they lose? Or worse? No, gibbe

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Speaker 3: keV coming up big. That's what it is. That's awesome.

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 4: Are they better or are they worse than that?

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 4: I mean I think right now they're.

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Speaker 3: Sweet spot.

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 4: I think they're appropriately ranked right there. That would be

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Speaker 4: my top three. The Chiefs beat them, They're not yet there.

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01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, because you do that to be the

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: man to beat the man. Actually, they lost the Buffalo, right,

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: That's where I was going. Yeah, yeah, so then they

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: got to go down plus Buffalo Buffalo. Joey Bosa like yeah.

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 4: They Yeah, so they gotta go down Rock great Rock.

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01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is striding out.

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think they go down.

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: They have as I think that the three teams at

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01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 3: three four five have the most pressure in the National

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: Football League for next season.

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: And at three four five would be, respectively, the Ravens,

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01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Lions.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've got to go. I mean, you gotta go.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I mean, we don't do DLD anymore.

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01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 3: We used to host Lions daily in addition to this,

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: so we probably knew the cap situation of the Lions

1508
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: at that time. So I don't, but my hunch is

1509
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to pay a bunch of people, probably

1510
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 3: pretty quickly, and they better take advantage. I mean, they

1511
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: have brand new coordinators there. It's possible we could argue

1512
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: last year was their year.

1513
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 4: They all they got decimated. I know they lost their

1514
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: entire defense.

1515
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 3: The injury just bombed by injury. But them, the Bills

1516
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 3: and the Ravens like man if not now when that's

1517
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 3: why That's.

1518
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 4: Why I'm keeping the Lions here at five, because I

1519
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 4: believe Bill's Ravens Lions. I know the Lions loss to

1520
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 4: the Commanders in a shootout, but I think healthy. I

1521
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: still like this Lions team better. But I do like

1522
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 4: this top six. I would put the Commanders right there.

1523
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 4: I like this top six.

1524
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Commanders were at six, and I want to

1525
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 1: make a pit stop here at these couple of NFC

1526
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: North teams and number seven. Man Cam, Yes, yes, g man,

1527
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: Cam Hello?

1528
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: Hello? All right, go ahead, g Man.

1529
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, Minnesota Vikings are at number seven. Obviously, some questions

1530
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: as to who the quarterback is going to be Everybody

1531
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: suggesting that JJ McCarthy his time starts now still waiting

1532
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. Will Kevin o'connellen company come to him

1533
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: and say, hey, why don't you come on over and

1534
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: finish that Brett Favre career path off? Minnesota Vikings number

1535
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: seven higher or lower.

1536
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: Worser, worse, better than j or worse. I think, thank you, keV,

1537
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 3: JJ is going to be at best the view of

1538
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: a rook quarterback who had two surgeries, and right now

1539
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: he's their quarterback. So I don't think that they are.

1540
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean I got to see it with him, show

1541
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: me state baby, so I have been I think Minnesota

1542
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: goes down, okay, worserer.

1543
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 4: I agree Vikings down worserer.

1544
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: So that that takes us to eight, which is the

1545
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. I like, I am never high on

1546
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: the Packers, I specially especially wasn't this past season when

1547
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: they lost to the Eagles in the first round of

1548
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't know, eight feels high to me

1549
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: for the Packers. I want to know what you guys think, though.

1550
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: I think it's about right for Green Bay. I mean,

1551
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: let's do the tronsch thing, okay, because sometimes that's the

1552
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: best way to do this. So I think you can

1553
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: go all the way two five, and I think commi's

1554
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 3: are right there. I think you have them in. To me,

1555
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: they're right on the bubble of being in or not, Like,

1556
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: can can Jayden do it again to the level we.

1557
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: Did the NFC Championship. I'm willing to keep him in

1558
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 4: the top six because I think that they're Otherwise they

1559
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 4: have to be their own trench, which I'd rather just

1560
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 4: put them in the bottom of.

1561
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: They were the question for me. So you convinced me,

1562
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 3: let's put them in there. These are true blue, do

1563
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: nothing show up super Bowl contenders. Okay, one through six, Okay,

1564
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: then this next group. I think the next group is

1565
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: I would label almost as super Bowl contender. If so,

1566
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: for example, I think the Green Bay Packers are in

1567
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,879
Speaker 3: Super Bowl contender, or if I think the Minnesota Vikings

1568
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: could be in this if JJ's good, that could If

1569
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 3: for sure, I think the Cincinnati Bengals are a super Bowl,

1570
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: if the Chargers are Super Bowl, if maybe the Texans

1571
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:51,959
Speaker 3: are Super.

1572
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: Bowl if I like that.

1573
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: But I don't think that the Rams and the Buccaneers

1574
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 3: or the Broncos are Super Bowl if, well, I think.

1575
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 4: The Rams could be. You think, yeah, Philly tougher than anybody.

1576
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 4: Last Adams, They've got a great defense. They kept stating

1577
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: the big.

1578
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: Gamble on Stafford. That just aging all of that. But yeah,

1579
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: the Rams are probably close. They might be in that mix. Yes,

1580
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: I like the Bengals and the Chargers way better than

1581
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 3: the Rams.

1582
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, had I actually have the Rams, Bengals, Chargers,

1583
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 4: and Texans all moving up from their current spots where

1584
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 4: they are. Yeah, the Bucks moving down, the Vikings moving down.

1585
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: So let's everyone.

1586
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 3: Where those teams all go ahead, go ahead, good job

1587
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 3: of traffic copping out of you, great job.

1588
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: At number nine is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. At ten

1589
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 1: is the Los Angeles Rams, eleven is the Cincinnati Bengals,

1590
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: twelve to Denver Broncos, thirteen the LA Chargers, and then

1591
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: at fourteen is the Houston Texans. Yeah, so you're saying

1592
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: a lot of those.

1593
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 3: Things, all of them move up, Tampa Bay comes back.

1594
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: I think I think Tampa's probably at nine because they

1595
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: did have they did have a pretty good start off

1596
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: the free agency there. I mean, they gave Godwin a

1597
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: lot of money. Hassan Reddick comes in.

1598
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: With Godwin just broke his leg or whatever.

1599
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Yet Yeah, crazy, so question mark, Yeah there.

1600
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: I just think there's a hard ceiling. Its feel like

1601
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 3: it just you whack your to me, they're not any

1602
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: different than Pittsburgh with like Russell Wilson, or like the

1603
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks with Gino. With Gino just kind of like,

1604
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,520
Speaker 3: all right, you win ten games, you're in a bad divisions,

1605
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: You're good. You can win ten games. Every once in

1606
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: a while you can spring an upset because Bay can

1607
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: get hot. We've seen it. Yeah, I just don't think

1608
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 3: that there's a ceiling of like, hey, go track down

1609
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: a super Bowl. I don't. I don't see that.

1610
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: So you mentioned the Steelers, mister at Holme has them

1611
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: at fifteen.

1612
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how you have him at fifteen. Just

1613
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: stay there for a second. See how can you have

1614
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: him at fifteen when the only quarterback they have is

1615
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph right now and Skyler Thompson. That's not the

1616
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: fifteenth best team in football.

1617
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't.

1618
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you got him better than the Niners with Perty.

1619
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 4: And the night Right. The Niners are struggling or even

1620
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 4: you know, I think a Bears team has a chance

1621
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 4: to send Arizona Atlanta like for Atlanta, who correct me

1622
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: if beat Tampa twice last year and feels like they're

1623
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 4: a team on the ascent. To have them twelve spots

1624
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: below the Bucks seems a little bit wild to me.

1625
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: I kind of had it. This is kind of a

1626
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: next tier, and I think Carolina actually has a chance

1627
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: to do something. I put Carolina in this tier too.

1628
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 4: I think Carolina is going to be better than people think.

1629
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 3: Do you have Pittsburgh and that's in there with Carolina.

1630
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 4: Tier like Pittsburgh, Bears, Seahawks, Niners, Cardinals, but I'd like

1631
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 4: the Niners better than them. I like the Cardinals better

1632
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 4: than them. Dolphins, I'm not sure what they are right now.

1633
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 4: I like the Falcons better than the Steelers right now.

1634
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: I like Dallas better than Pittsburgh right now. Yeah, Dak

1635
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: Prescott and some weapons, I'll take that over and right now,

1636
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,879
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolphin, Skylet Thompson.

1637
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 4: I think the Titans are sneak to me. These are

1638
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: teams that like could make the playoffs. See but maybe

1639
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 4: you're not thinking about them doing anything. I still think

1640
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 4: the Niners are so well coached that especially sala is

1641
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: gonna be back there that maybe they'll have a bounce

1642
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 4: back here, but they're just so decimated. They've had to

1643
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 4: lose a lot of talent as well. But I mean,

1644
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 4: if they're still rolling out there with perty Ayuk, McCaffrey

1645
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: and Kittle, like, they're not gonna be trash.

1646
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: No, No, they're not. No, And the division's not crazy no,

1647
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: you know.

1648
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: So rounding out the top half of the league is

1649
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears at sixteen, and then you got the

1650
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks seventeen. The Niners are eighteen, Cardinals nineteen, Miami Dolphins

1651
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: are at twenty. So you want to have a conversation

1652
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: about the Miami Dolphins at twenty.

1653
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 4: I think you've got six teams in the like for

1654
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 4: sure right now bonafide super Bowl contenders. I think you've

1655
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:47,919
Speaker 4: got another six in this next group like super Bowl if.

1656
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: Who are your six in there? You had Green Bay, Minnesota,

1657
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 3: the Rams, Bengals, Chargers, Texans. Yeah, so that the Broncos

1658
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 3: are kind of in Noman's and then there's.

1659
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 4: A new category to me that's like Broncos Tampa Bay

1660
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 4: might be their own. So I mean, actually, Broncos Tampa

1661
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 4: Bay Niners.

1662
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: Cardinals, Dolphins, those are similar Atlanta.

1663
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're all kind of similar.

1664
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: Think Ella might be in there too, honestly. And it's

1665
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: different with the Broncos. They got a quarterback on a

1666
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: rookie contract, so you got to go.

1667
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 4: They do, but I that's just tough in their division

1668
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 4: where I just feel like their third in the division

1669
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: even and that's a complimentary third.

1670
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 3: I also cure, like, where did bon Nix's season match

1671
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: up with where it kind of I think it is

1672
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: in my head, like was he better than I thought?

1673
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 5: So?

1674
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sixty six thirty seven, seventy five, six point seven

1675
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: in attempt, twenty nine touchdowns, twelve picks, that's what Bonix was.

1676
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: You're one, So, I mean that's kind of like a

1677
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: Bake here line. That's really similar to a lot of

1678
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: the Bake lines here where he was sixty six, sixty seven,

1679
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: twenty nine and twelve. Bake had at least one year

1680
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 3: like that here, maybe two were very similar to that. Yeah,

1681
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: his first year in Tampa was like that too.

1682
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: So so the Falcons are twenty one Tommy, that seems like, yeah,

1683
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: are we bought in on Michael Pennox? I know that's

1684
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: the question.

1685
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. This what this exercise right now

1686
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 3: I think does a great job always have the lids. Uh,

1687
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: this exercise does a great job of proving the point

1688
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 3: we subbled into last week of the middle classs It's huge, huge.

1689
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, you could take the middle class.

1690
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: You could go all the way and then it's then

1691
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 3: it becomes like young quarterbacks ready to go, like it's

1692
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 3: Carolina New England. I mean the Jets and Raiders are

1693
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 3: just completely middle class. The Saints are completely middle class.

1694
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean we'll get to lower wise. Yeah. But that's

1695
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: the other thing that jumps out to me here, like

1696
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,839
Speaker 3: what is the big what's the difference between Dallas in Denver?

1697
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 3: That's ten spots in Eric's rankings. I don't if those

1698
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: two teams played, the line is going to be two

1699
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: and a half.

1700
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 4: But I think that's a whole cluster. I think that's

1701
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 4: why you have to.

1702
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 3: Do That's my point.

1703
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 4: That's a whole tier.

1704
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: That's a whole tier. There's like ten teams in this

1705
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: kind of group of like they can't win the super Bowl,

1706
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,879
Speaker 3: but they could make the playoffs.

1707
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a third of the league.

1708
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is it's a middle class that got fat, fat.

1709
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 4: Quickly that was almost non existent.

1710
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think.

1711
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 1: I think the Colts are there too. I mean with

1712
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I think. And then you you mentioned the

1713
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that are ready to go. So the Colts

1714
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: were twenty three, Panthers twenty four, he got Bryce Young,

1715
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: Patriots twenty five, he got Drake May and then you

1716
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: mentioned Raiders.

1717
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 3: Those three in a row, Raiders, Jets, Saints. He's got

1718
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: him twenty six, twenty seven to twenty eight, those three teams.

1719
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 3: The Raiders traded for Gino Smith. The Jets paid Fields

1720
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 3: thirty million, guaranteed twenty million a year, total forty million. Yep.

1721
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 3: And the Saints Derek Carr. That is the personification of

1722
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 3: what we talked about. Yeah, Like, why at least with

1723
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 3: Fields you can take, well, we're geting to bite an

1724
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: apple on a first round pick, but we're gonna run

1725
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 3: out more of car if you're the Saints. And just

1726
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 3: kind of to me, like and the Raiders, one, I

1727
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 3: get it, because they need to start creating some excitement.

1728
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: They need to win some games in that market because

1729
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 3: they get overrun in their own home stadium.

1730
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 5: Yep.

1731
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 3: But what are you ever going to win in that division?

1732
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 3: Gino Smith, He's gonna put up a bunch of numbers

1733
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 3: to Bowers. They'll be competitive, but you're not winning. You're

1734
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 3: not take overtaken correct the chargers of the Chiefs. So

1735
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 3: then what's the point?

1736
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed?

1737
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So and then they've got the They've got us

1738
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: at twenty nine, and then Jacksonville thirty Giants thirty one,

1739
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans check it at thirty two to round out

1740
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: those rankings.

1741
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 3: Don't I don't make a habit of doing this on

1742
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: our own show. But how are we ahead of jackson

1743
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean they have Trevor Lawn.

1744
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 4: Trelawnce right now. They should not be as low as

1745
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 4: they are.

1746
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: No, they should be ahead of the Saints, they should

1747
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: be head of the Giants, they should be of the Raiders. Like,

1748
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 3: I wonder, what the what's this? And by the way,

1749
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: they they got your boy the receiver, Brian Brian Thomas Thomas, Yeah,

1750
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean they got weapons, they got running back weapons,

1751
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 3: they get receiver weapons. And how are they thirty of

1752
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 3: and they're in a wide open division?

1753
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 4: New coach douve All, maybe not a lot of belief

1754
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: in Liam Cohen after that.

1755
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and they just did it to make the chart.

1756
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: I just am curious, like difficult decisions. I mean they

1757
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: cut Evan Anger, so.

1758
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's the other Josh Allen. Oh remember

1759
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 3: Dimmi Brown. We talked about him a lot, gave Davis

1760
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: who was like the one year, like you gotta pick

1761
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: him in fantasy. They're doing some weird Ryan.

1762
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: Thomas let Ronald Darby go.

1763
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean they have two backs. Actually it's a n tank.

1764
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Bigsby think Cisco's gone as well.

1765
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 4: Cisco's gone.

1766
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, again they have Lawrence, Like I don't know.

1767
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 4: Yah, at that point, you're to me, they yeah, but

1768
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 4: like twenty five.

1769
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 3: Like are they are we sure that they're worse than Carolina?

1770
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 4: Carolina?

1771
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: What is Trevor Lawrence shown you so far that that

1772
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: makes you that confident?

1773
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 4: And it's true he has not been great in the pros.

1774
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 3: He is not, But it's just I just think like

1775
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: in the end, like he has to be what we

1776
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 3: think he is close right, Yes, I think like I

1777
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: would bet on him, Like for example, if Trevor Lawrence

1778
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: somehow became available, I would want him. I would want.

1779
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: Him same, and he is not available. People reach out

1780
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 4: and they're like absolutely not not available.

1781
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 3: No, Like play the game, Like if if I mean

1782
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 3: we're it's March eighteenth, let's have fun for two minutes

1783
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 3: here on this. If Trevor Lawrence are available for the

1784
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: number two pick in the draft and you could make

1785
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,480
Speaker 3: it work money wise.

1786
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 4: In a world where you could, then yes, yeah, absolutely.

1787
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 3: He's twenty five, Yeah, twenty five. I mean he's got coaches,

1788
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 3: He's got two four thousand yard seasons over seven yards

1789
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 3: in attempt all all three of the last three years,

1790
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 3: two years ago, sixty six, forty one thirteen twenty five

1791
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 3: and eight picks, twenty five touchdowns. Yeah. No, I believe

1792
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 3: in that kid's talent.

1793
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 4: Same, so they.

1794
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 3: Need to be a little bit higher up. You do

1795
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 3: the game of like would you want to be in

1796
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: these guys, Like that's why that's an attractive job. Ownership

1797
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: is bought in, they're willing to spend. And you have

1798
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: a twenty five year.

1799
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: Old quarterback and he did have a just disastrous start

1800
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: to his career with Urban.

1801
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 3: With Urban, Yeah, we talked about that many times. Like

1802
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 3: that's probably the poster child of other than like expansion

1803
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: team like Tim Couch here David Carr in Houston. The

1804
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: Lawrence situation in Jackson was probably the worst situation a

1805
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback's ever been put in.

1806
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, it's crazy. So I'm going through this

1807
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 4: right now, hm, as it stands today, and I'm trying

1808
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 4: to do it as it stands today. Mason Rudolph was

1809
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 4: what a third round pick, it seems. I think that's right.

1810
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they took They took James Washington and

1811
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and back to back rounds.

1812
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 4: All right, So, as it stands today, here are the

1813
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the FL As it stands today, Eagles have

1814
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 4: a second rounder, Chiefs first rounder, Ravens first rounder, Bill's

1815
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 4: first rounder, Lines first rounder, Commanders first rounder, Vikings first

1816
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 4: round or Packers first rounder, Bucks first rounder, Rams first rounder,

1817
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 4: Bengals first round or Broncos first rounder, Chargers first rounder, rounder,

1818
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 4: Texans first rounder. Those are the fourteen teams that we

1819
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 4: think can win the Super Bowl. The one exception is

1820
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: Chayls Hurts. And that includes let's see top ten one,

1821
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 4: top ten two, top ten three, top ten four, top

1822
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 4: ten five, top ten six, top ten, seven, top ten, eight,

1823
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 4: top ten nine, top ten, ten, ten, top ten picks,

1824
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 4: and many of those are top five Steelers would have

1825
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 4: right now. Mason Rudolph third Bears first rounder, Seahawks first rounder,

1826
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 4: nine Er, seventh rounder, Arizona first rounder, Miami first rounder,

1827
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: Falcons first rounder, Cowboys fourth rounder, Colts first rounder, Panthers

1828
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 4: first rounder, Patriots first rounder, Raiders second rounder, Gino Smith,

1829
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 4: Jets first rounder, Saints second rounder, Brown's first rounder, Jaggs

1830
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 4: first rounder, Giants first rounder. Because I'm killing them Jamis

1831
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 4: Titans second rounder.

1832
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you're looking at four seconds, a fifth, a third,

1833
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: and a seventh as it stands right now, everything else

1834
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,919
Speaker 3: is a one, and at least one of those thirds,

1835
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph is probably gonna end up being a one. Yep,

1836
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: it's probably how that's gonna shake out. Yeah, boy, it's funny.

1837
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 3: I don't know when this is when this was done,

1838
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 3: but Orlovsky was on something this morning saying the Titan

1839
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: should trade the number one pick for Trevor Lawrence. But

1840
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 3: Jackson's not in.

1841
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: Man, not in in Division two.

1842
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah, this is why I said

1843
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 3: this earlier when we were talking about the Kuiper Jeremiah drafts.

1844
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: So just thing going on, right now, and so hey,

1845
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: give us a mock draft to discuss something, give us

1846
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 3: something maybe. So that's where those come from, and that's

1847
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 3: how you end up with, you know, Orlovsky saying some

1848
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: of the things he says there. But I do think

1849
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: when you go through this and you look at one

1850
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 3: through thirty two and you think of I mean, you

1851
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: could really argue that one through thirty one through twenty

1852
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 3: nine feels like they're a playoff team in their head

1853
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 3: where they could be. Is there anybody if you put,

1854
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 3: as it says right now us the Giants and Titans

1855
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: out of it, because we're trying to figure out quarterback

1856
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 3: and we're picking first one, two, three in the draft,

1857
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: that's going to shake out. I mean, I don't know

1858
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 3: that the Jets think that, So maybe they don't, but

1859
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: I think that Saints probably think that, Jacksonville thinks that.

1860
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: The Raiders must think that for what they're doing. New

1861
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 3: England might not think it. Carolina probably does.

1862
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 4: Carolina definitely does.

1863
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Indye, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami. I mean that's everybody, but

1864
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: four or five teams that are as of right now

1865
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 3: think they're playoff teams. Yeah, not enough spots to go around, Buddy,

1866
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 3: No so at all. There's that middle class conversation we've

1867
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 3: been having over the course of the last week or so,

1868
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: so much more to come. You listen to cleveand Browns

1869
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1870
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official sports

1871
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 2: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on a fifty esp

1872
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 2: and Cleveland.

1873
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Jimmy Trainey, who we've had on from Sports Illustrated. We

1874
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier in the show that Major League Baseball did

1875
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 3: its opening day in Japan this morning, so it was

1876
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Dodgers and Cubs over there. Trainee reporting Fox didn't have

1877
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 3: its a crew call MLB season opener and then didn't

1878
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 3: even send the backup crew to Tokyo Nope, making them

1879
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 3: call the game remotely.

1880
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 4: Nope, because it was called it nobody cared.

1881
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 3: But he didn't go to tokyot to call it.

1882
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Anyone there is that is that?

1883
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 4: Wow?

1884
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 3: They just took the Japanese feed and then he just

1885
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 3: called it off the TV.

1886
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I don't think is all that easy to do.

1887
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: That's Fox in the.

1888
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 4: For the opener.

1889
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 3: It's what's the cost to send a guy over there?

1890
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 3: A brand at.

1891
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 4: Most for the two of them for the whole time

1892
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 4: they're there.

1893
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a weekend.

1894
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: What do we like tariffs on it or something.

1895
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1896
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1897
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 4: It's just such a strange thing to kick off. And

1898
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: I know that football is now totally America's game and

1899
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 4: all of that. You know, this is America's past time.

1900
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 4: I just thin can find it's a very odd way

1901
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 4: to start the season that way and do it kind

1902
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 4: of out of the public eye. Altogether.

1903
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 3: It feels, Yes, I think you put it very well.

1904
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 3: It's like they want to do it, but they want

1905
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 3: to act like they're not doing it. Yeah, like we

1906
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 3: love you know, our best players right now are from

1907
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 3: this country. The best player in this sport is from

1908
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 3: your country. And and we got more coming all the time,

1909
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: and they're We're a long way from Hadeki Nomo long

1910
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 3: way And what is.

1911
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 4: Like the baseball season actually open? I mean I realized

1912
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 4: couple weeks, isn't it? But yeah, yeah, a couple of weeks.

1913
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: It's the twenty fourth, I think, is it?

1914
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 3: Really?

1915
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the twenty fourth of the twenty seventh.

1916
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 3: That far in advance that even before the I always

1917
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 3: thought it was like right after the NCAA tournament, or

1918
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: like the weekend of the final four.

1919
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: I feel like the tournament also used to be a

1920
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:43,440
Speaker 1: lotter earlier.

1921
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 3: The tournament used to be over by the it was

1922
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 3: the final Monday in March, or the very use it

1923
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 3: some the very beginning of April. So this week it'll

1924
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 3: be that way too. It'll be like April first or second.

1925
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 3: That's normal.

1926
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,879
Speaker 4: The tournaments be over earlier. Russell Mania used to happen earlier.

1927
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 3: Well, the NFL Draft happened earlier.

1928
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: Well, we got we got Alabama State in Saint Francis tonight.

1929
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 3: That should be North carol should be major conference bubble

1930
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 3: teams not automatic qualifiers should not be there. It's ridiculous

1931
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 3: to make those teams as automatic. They qualified, Yeah, put them

1932
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 3: in the Big Dance. Dayton's fine, they do a nice job.

1933
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