1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show that there wasn't much 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: more Kyle than Murray could have done on Sunday and 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: what he did had never been seen before in the 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: NFL continues to put up some incredible numbers. Speaking of numbers, 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: we look at the numbers Christian Kirk has totaled since returning. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Also the returns of Marcus Golden, Josh Morrow, Jalen Thompson 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: as well as Max Williams all positive. Plus we'll look 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: at out the rest of the NFC West Baird in 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: week nine. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three forty eight, 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and it starts now Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Craig grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Acy Cardinals dot Com Slash Podcasts. 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throw near side, defends bought 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: pennies into the outside of the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolu 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: and Mike Jareckie well. As we inch closer and closer 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: to the month of December, MJ it is certainly feeling 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: like football weather as I woke up and again, Bird Gang, 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: this is for those listening to this here in the valley. 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't the upper forties. It got a little chilly, 21 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: and I gotta admit I kind of like, well, it's finally, 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, a change from what it's been. You can 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: always tell when the weather starts to break Craig mornings 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: and evenings and people don't realize the desert gets brisk. 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And now for me, a guy that doesn't 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of meat on his bones, I had 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: to wear, you know, a hoodie this morning as I 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: was getting at their State Farm Stadium. Well, as Larry 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald once said, those are champagne problems. As we'll kind 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: of divert ourselves to what the problems, if you will, 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: are for the Arrows and the Cardinals here through week nine, 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: a five and three record. Before we go any further 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: by Honday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, do need 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: to let everyone know that the team did make a 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: roster move. Cornerback Davante Bosby released. He did not play 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: much on Sunday. In fact, he wasn't even here for 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: very long, was signed on October thirtieth. Provide a little depth. 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: But apparently the Cardinals saw all that they needed to 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Dolphins and are going to go 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: in a different direction. This obviously hopefully means that the 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals will have Byron Murphy active and available this week 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: because he clears COVID nineteen protocols. Will kind of wait 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and see how that progresses throughout the week. Yeah, and 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: then possibly Drake Kirkpatrick. He'd been dealing with some injuries. 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Maybe his best just to kind of shut him down 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: and let him get healthy. He obviously has to do 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: a much better job in coverage and tackling in the 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: open field because a lot of times, including this week, 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, he'll get on the outside and you've got 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: to make sure, you know, you look at the thighs 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: and the lays and so you know. But he's experience, 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: and I think it will settle things down in that secondary. Obviously, 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Jayalen Thompson return, he had the highest grade on Pro 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: Football focused defensively, you got Patrick over there, this would 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: be another good test for him. Possibly on Stefan Diggs, 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's it's a scenario where you know, 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: Murphy's clearly a slot guy, and then Kirkpatrick and then 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Peterson outside, and then you know, maybe we'll see Isaiah 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Simmons Moore and some sub packages if teams are on 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: third down, and then Deonte Thompson. I think he could 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: be some guy if you're gonna go six defensive back. 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna have some options, but obviously 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: COVID and then obviously some injuries, so hopefully sooner rather 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: than later. Well, you hit on some of the topics 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: that we wanted to get into on today's show, and 67 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: let's start with that defense and just the number of 68 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: players that were welcomed back, if you will, with the Cardinals, 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: a couple of former Cardinals returning with Marcus Golden and 70 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Josh Morrow, and then you brought up Jalen Thompson returning, 71 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: also tied end Max Williams back on the phield. Thompson 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: and had been out since Week one at San Francisco, 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: and that feels like an eternity ago, but specifically Golden 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: and Morrow, two of the three sacks recorded in the 75 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: ball game by those two cardinal players, and certainly with 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden in the absence of Devon Kanard and obviously 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, certainly good to have not only Golden here 78 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: but make an impact immediately. Yeah, and you know, I've 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: been using the word plug and play, and that's what 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Vance told us last week. He didn't, you know, it 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was coming off the street. Obviously he 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: was with the Giants. He had to go through the 83 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: COVID protocol for five days, but he was on the 84 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: practice field. He just brings a lot of energy. And 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: then you know Josh Morrow, I mean, Lucky Foe two 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: is getting a chance to play a little bit more now. 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: But Zach Allen's out. But Merle, he's a guy that 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: really can add some energy. And I like the fact 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: that he was sealing the edge. You know, obviously Jordan 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Phillips macdalan with a hamstring injury for the last couple 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: of weeks. She's still got Steady Eddie and Corey Peters 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: in there. So I liked the fact that they had 93 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: intel on both of those guys, and I thought they 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: actually played well and gave that defense a lift. Golden 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: on the field for fifty six percent of the defensive snaps. 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: Here's his stat line, five tackles, one sack, one tackle 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: for loss, one quarterback hit, one past defense. Moral on 98 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: the field for forty one percent of the defensive snaps 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: and recorded one sack and beans. Joseph described Moral as 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: an older Zach Allen, that that is someone that they 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: see in Zach Allen that can develop into what Moral 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: has provided over the course of his career in the 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: National Football League. Again, not real imposing figures talking about 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Allen and Moral, but just the experienced and then obviously 105 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the football IQ. Sometimes you don't need that talent, you 106 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: don't need to be that physical specimen. If you know angles, 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: if you know kind of how to shift your weights 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: and little tricks of the trade, especially on the outside 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: edge or a defensive end, you can get past the guard, 110 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: you can get past the tackle, the tied end and 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: get to the ball carrier or the quarterback. Yeah, and 112 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: we saw Marcus Golden, you know, winning his matchups on 113 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: the outside. He got coached close to the quarterback a 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: few different times. I want to say, maybe one was 115 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: taken back on a penalty, But for the most part though, 116 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you look at one of the 117 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: two his runs, Deveandre Campbell had a great angle. He 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: couldn't bring him down for the most part. And you know, 119 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: obviously he's been a fixture inside with Jordan Hicks. But 120 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: when you can get some guys that play with passion 121 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and energy and it's not forced, it's natural, that's what 122 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: you see from Josh and Marcus, and that's to me infectious. 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: When you start looking at other players, maybe they don't 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: want the most talent, even though I think Golden's got talent. 125 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: Josh is more of a guy like Max Williams meeting potatoes, 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: where he's going to stick his nose in a fan 127 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and he's not afraid to get, you know, into a 128 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: scuffle meeting like he's going to try to, you know, 129 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: beat you at the point of attack. So I like 130 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: that they add some physicality and I thought that going 131 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: into the office, the biggest thing that Front seven was physicality. 132 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Obviously Blackson, you throw in obviously Campbell, and then when 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, when they had you know, some of the 134 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: other guys like you know, I guess, Jordan Hicks. But 135 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: I really liked what they did in the Front seven. 136 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: But again, they got to do a much better job 137 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: putting more pressure on the quarterback force and turnovers, and 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: they got to do a better job containing the run. 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: You're not going to start in town, but you gotta 140 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: put teams in third and long, and that's where I 141 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: think they can benefit from getting to the quarterback. You 142 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: talked about the passion that a golden and moral have 143 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: for the game of football, and that certainly was evident 144 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday after their sacks or after a big play, 145 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: and there weren't a lot of fans and attendance at 146 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium forty two hundred. They'll be forty two 147 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: hundred again this week with the Buffalo Bills coming to town. 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: But just that energy alone, I think certainly helped, and 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I think we need to see it now at the 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: start of ball games and consistently through the entire four quarters, 151 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to just when it's a big play. Sometimes 152 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: you need to bring your own energy, especially during this 153 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: season when you're not really gonna get it when you're 154 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: playing in front of sixty sixty five seventy thousand fans 155 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: empty as far as seats in the stands, well, we 156 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: know if Kyler Murray's running or throwing a nice, you 157 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: know bomb to a guy like Christian Kirk. That's going 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to get the sidelines up. And again they need to 159 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: get back to playing complimentary football where you know, if 160 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: the other team scores, they got a counter. You know, 161 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: you don't want to go three and out. And you know, unfortunately, 162 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: you know when Kyler said at late in eight, I 163 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: think that was more just they weren't able to win 164 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: that game. But they started off and then you know, 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: Murray obviously trying to make a play and I'm not 166 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: going to fault him for that, but sometimes you just 167 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: got to throw the ball away, and unfortunately he fumbled 168 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: that ball. So they got off to a rough start offensively, 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: but they settled down. You know, obviously, you know Hopkins 170 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: will probably want some more touches. But I thought the 171 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: tight ends did a really good job. A matter of fact, 172 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: two of those touchdowns came from Darrell Daniels. Great throw, 173 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: great catch. I mean he literally had wrestled away from 174 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: the defensive back and he also was able to keep 175 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: his body and bounce. And then Matt Williams, you know 176 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: how I feel about him. I think they missed him. 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: I think it was clear and he got a touchdown. 178 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: So you know, we talk about the weapons on the outside, 179 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: the skill position players, but these these tight ends. I mean, 180 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: we know that Max is more of a blocker, but 181 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: he also if you want to leave mob, he's going 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: to catch it. Dan Arnold over the last couple of 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: games has made some key catches in the scene. And 184 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: then Darrell Daniels like he's getting better every single week. 185 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: He's just got to cut down on some of the 186 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: mental errors. How about this nugget the first career two 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: touchdown game by the tight end position under head coach 188 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, Daniels and Williams with touchdowns and the game 189 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins. But Max Williams had not been 190 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: on the field since Week one at San Francisco, and 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: he played thirty four snaps forty nine percent of the 192 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: offensive snaps, the most of any of the tight ends. 193 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: And he gave a lot of credit when he met 194 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: with the media earlier today. On this Tuesday, the training staff, 195 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: the coaching staff to bring him along slowly. Let at 196 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: the same time, Hey we need you. We're not going 197 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: to rush you, but here's what we think you are 198 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: capable of doing within this offense. So let's work together 199 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: to make sure one you're healthy and then two you're 200 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: able to contribute on the football field. Yeah, and you know, 201 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: you never want to rush back because then you have 202 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: a setback and then the next thing, you know, you know, 203 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to miss you know, meaningful football in 204 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: November and December and hopefully in January. So yeah, we 205 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: know that they have a great staff and Buddy Morris 206 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: and then Tom Reid and then Chad. I mean, even 207 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: if these guys aren't practicing, they're also getting treatment, they're 208 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: working on the other field trying to get stretched out, 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: so you know, there's no reason in rushing back. I 210 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: definitely thought they missed him, but you could see the 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: upside when he's in the game. And we did see 212 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more eleven and twelve personnel, and that 213 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: means maybe Dan I don't becomes your weapon on the 214 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: outside or the seam, and then Max Williams helping the 215 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: block and he can also flare out for a pass. 216 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: So for the most part, I do think the tight ends. Again, 217 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to finish with you know, 218 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: ten catches every week, but I do think there are 219 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: other options and I think Murray trust throwing the ball 220 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: to those guys. And I know you've been big on 221 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: this as well as Ron Wolfley, but the absence of 222 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Max Williams, and yes, this team has certainly been able 223 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: to run the football without him, but the presence of 224 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Max Williams on the line of scrimmage acting as that 225 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: sixth blocker if you will, you don't have to bring 226 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: in an extra offensive lineman, although we did see that 227 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: with Josh Jones on occasion. But certainly having Max Williams 228 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: on the field can only mean better things for that 229 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals ground game. Oh there's no doubt. And you know 230 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: we know that last year when Christian Kirk got hurt, 231 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: that's when they started going more to eleven and twelve personnel. 232 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: I think their base offense is eleven personnel because Max 233 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: Williams can do a little bit of both. He's also 234 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: a guy that you don't need to bring in a 235 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: Josh Jones as an extra blocker. And then when they 236 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: got twelve personnel, they both can flare out. But yeah, 237 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: I just think they are better, more consistent offense when 238 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: Max Williams is in the game. Now, to be fair, 239 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: here's the Cardinals offense the ground game as far as 240 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: where it stands here through nine weeks, they have the 241 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: second most rushing yards this season thirteen hundred and three. 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: They have the second best yards per carry average in 243 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League at five point two, and they're 244 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: thirteen rushing touchdowns rank tied for second best in the 245 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: National Football League. Certainly not what we expected here in 246 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty under Kingsbury, but certainly this offense has learned 247 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: to adapt. And it's because you have the personnel, whether 248 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: that's Kyler Murray, Kenyan, Drake, Chase Edmonds running the football 249 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: and then the offensive line in the tied end position 250 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: upfront providing those rushing lanes. Yeah, I mean they are 251 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: still number one in total yards. Now. I don't think 252 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: anybody says, hey, if you're number one in total yards, 253 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: you know how many points you scoring a game? You know, 254 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: so it's beatc alternative. They're first in first downs right now, 255 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: they're averaging twenty six first downs. You know, you look 256 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: at third down conversion, they're thirteenth. Fourth down. They're tied 257 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: for third goal to goal their second overall time and 258 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: possession you know, to me, is misleading. It's what you 259 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: do when you get the ball. They're twenty fifth there, 260 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: but they're averaging twenty nine point three points per game, 261 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: and that's a lot more than a year ago. Yeah, 262 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: the four straight games now a thirty or more points, 263 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: the longest active streak in the NFL. Yet certainly thirty 264 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: one typically enough to win ball games, but not on 265 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Miami Dolphins. And to be fair, the 266 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: way the scoring is up across the league, and we've 267 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: been talking about it all season long, thirty is maybe 268 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: almost like the new twenty if you will. You need 269 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: to get to that thirty five maybe dare I say 270 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: forty benchmark in order to really feel comfortable with where 271 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: you're at to be able to walk off the field 272 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: with a win. Yeah, and you mentioned I mean they're 273 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: rushing close to one hundred and seventy yards per game, 274 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: that second in the NFL. Yards per carry five point 275 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: one five, that's second in the NFL. And I know 276 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: a lot to do with Murray, but again, you got 277 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: to get the offensive line a ton of credit, because 278 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: they're better than they were a year ago. Two of 279 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: the three highest rushing totals of the season Week one, 280 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty rushing yards and then Week nine 281 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy eight rushing yards. The common denominator, 282 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: there's several, but one in particular is Max Williams. Yeah, 283 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: and you know, the first game of the year, I 284 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: went back and looked at his Pro Football Focus grade, 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: which you know, a grain of salt. Maybe he was 286 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: dealing with an injury because he missed a lot of 287 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: training camp, and obviously I don't know reaggravation, but you know, 288 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad they shut him down because he's a different player. 289 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: And you could see when we got a chance to 290 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: talk to him on Tuesday that you know, it was 291 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: hard for him to sit there and watch games. He 292 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: said he became a fan. During the Seahawks game, he 293 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: fanned out, but he said he's sitting at home watching 294 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: on TV. It's not the same. But he really likes 295 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: that tight end room. What do you call him? Problem solvers? 296 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: He talked about the tight end room being quote, we're 297 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: problem solvers and that's the entire tight end room. And 298 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Steve Hyden, who is the tight ends coach, the position coach. 299 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, they are certainly guys that whatever is needed, 300 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: whatever's asked of them, whether that's blocking, whether that is 301 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: going out for a pass, being a decoy catching the ball, 302 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: they can do whatever. It's just something little that doesn't 303 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: get talked a lot about the tight end position overall 304 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: and then specifically within this offense. Well, I mean you 305 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: go back to you know, Kingsbury didn't get enough credit 306 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: for running the football, you know, a Texas Tech and 307 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: they obviously a one year I want to say they 308 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: led the rushing, but you know, we know it's a 309 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: passing league. But you also have to protect the quarterback. 310 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray he's only been hitting nineteen times. That 311 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: is the number one in the National Football League. And 312 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: you look like the Eagles and there are like seventy 313 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: five hits on their quarterback. He's only been sacked ten 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: times now ten times, which is tied for the second 315 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: fewest and the National Football League. Yeah, and again I 316 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: know he still wants to be a pocket passer, you know, 317 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I do think you know, when you start looking at 318 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: him throwing inside the numbers, that's gotten better. We know 319 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: he can make that throw from the right hash across 320 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: the field. So again, when you look at it, don't 321 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: take this wrong, Craig, but I love all these stats 322 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: at BTCL turnative. You know, over the last two years 323 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: under Wilkes and McCoy they hit rock bottom. They made 324 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: strides last year, but I would trade all these stats 325 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: in for wins. Yes, And that's kind of what we're 326 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: getting at it, like everything looks good on paper, and 327 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: here we go to our offseason buzzword on paper and 328 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: then yes, everything looks good from an offense and defensive 329 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: standpoint as far as the metrics and the numbers. Yet 330 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: what is mattering the most is what did you do 331 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the ball game as far as 332 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: how many points you put up? And the Cardinals certainly 333 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: have put up their fair share of points, but it's 334 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: only and I say only resulted and five wins of 335 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: the eight games that they played, and the two games 336 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: was that. I think we all look back and say, 337 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: what if is Week three against the Lions and then 338 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Dolphins, two games that they not only 339 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: were in it, but certainly a couple of players away 340 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: from walking off the field with a victory. And and and 341 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: of course now you're sitting there looking at a six 342 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: and two mark or a seven and one mark and 343 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: then going wow, this team has really taking that second 344 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: step or that giant leap in year two. Well, if 345 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: you're six and two, you're you're at the top of 346 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: the NFC. Yes, with a couple of other teams. I mean, 347 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks have lost back to back games. You know, 348 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: the Niners, they obviously had a ton of injuries. The Rams, 349 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: they got a tough schedule coming up. You know, the 350 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals will face them in a couple of weeks here. 351 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: So you know, you look at the NFC West. Yes, 352 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: if I maybe the best division in football, but it 353 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: seems like they're going to beat each other up. And 354 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: as you pointed out correctly, over the last couple of weeks, 355 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are the only team with a two and 356 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: old record in the division. And then you start getting 357 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: in the conference wins. But hey, you gotta win. You know, 358 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: you gotta beat AFC teams. They obviously lost to the Dolphins, 359 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: they beat the Jets. They're gonna go to New England 360 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: here coming up. But now you got the Bills coming 361 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: in town. They count. But I like the fact that 362 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have taken care of business in the division. 363 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: And we always talk about going three and three. You 364 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: get to three wins, get greedy go four scratch out 365 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: some home wins, and this team has won three road 366 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: games already this year. Bird Gang update to the Lettuce 367 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features 368 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: and all new redesign a home screen experience. Visit asy 369 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash app four more as we continue 370 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: on this Tuesday Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably 371 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals and Kyler Murray. Yes, he 372 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: gets talked a lot about MJ, but I think for 373 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: good reason because he continues to put up numbers that 374 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: we have not seen obviously with the Arizona Cardinals, and 375 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: then numbers we have not seen across the NFL. By 376 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: the way, real quick, Murray up for a FedEx Ground 377 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Player of the Week on or he's been nominated. You 378 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com FedEx to vote for him. 379 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: And yes we're talking about ground because he had one 380 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: hundred and six rushing yards against the Dolphins. He's got 381 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: some stiff competition. Delvin Cook, Yeah, he's been Okay, Now, Craig, 382 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get into this because you know 383 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: how I feel about the MVP. You gotta win the 384 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: average over the last five years thirteen wins. I definitely 385 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: think he should be in the Offensive Player of the 386 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: Year for mid season now. ESPN came out with their 387 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: top three MVPs Okay Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, 388 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: teams winning their touchdown the ratio is pretty impressive, But 389 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: Craig I had to go back and look at the 390 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: first eight games last year for Lamar Jackson, they were 391 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: six and two, and looking at Kyler Murray, they're five 392 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: and three. Kylin Murray's numbers are better. The one difference though, 393 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: is what happens over these next eights as far as 394 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: wins and lost, and they were six and two there 395 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: and Cardinals are five. Just to get an eye, Murray's 396 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: completing sixteen percent. Lamar sixty four. Murray has sixteen touchdown passes. 397 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: He had twelve quarterback rating. Kylie has higher yards per rush, 398 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: higher eight rushing touchdowns, and he has more yards. Again, 399 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: it's about winning, though, I'd trade all this, and I'm 400 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: sure if we've talked to Kyler Murray a true conversation, 401 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: he would trade those stats in for wins. Well, that's 402 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: why he was so disappointed on Sunday despite how well 403 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: he played and what he did, almost four hundred yards 404 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: by himself and four total touchdowns, yet not able to 405 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: come away with a win against the Dolphins. In fact, 406 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: if you look at what he has done this season, 407 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: first career double triple for Murray on Sunday, that's your rage. 408 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: Triple digits in two different yardage categories, sixteen touchdown passes. 409 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Only Carson Palmer had more the first eight games of 410 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: a season for the Cardinals. Palmer had twenty and twenty 411 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: fifteen NFL history. Murray first player to have both a 412 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: rushing and passing touchdown seven times in the first eight 413 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: games of a season, first player in the Super Bowl 414 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: era with at least eight rushing touchdowns through the first 415 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: eight games of a season, over five hundred rushing yards, 416 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: becoming the fourth quarterback to rush for five hundred plus 417 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: yards in each of his first two seasons, Lamar Jackson, 418 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Josh Allen the other three, and right now 419 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: the only player in history to throw for five thousand 420 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: plus yards and thirty plus touchdowns and rush for a 421 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: thousand plus yards and ten plush touchdowns and their first 422 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: twenty four career starts. That is what the Cardinals have 423 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: in Kyle Lemurray. That is why everything is so promising. 424 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, these stats, these figures mean 425 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: nothing unless you're winning ball games on Sundays. Well, and 426 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: if you want to BottomLine it, he's ten, thirteen and 427 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: one in his career. Now again, last year, you know, 428 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: you're bringing in a college coach and making his debut 429 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: you as an NFL coach. You know, obviously they try 430 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: to run out that ten personnel. It didn't work, but clearly, 431 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: I mean the expectations are higher because the roster is better. 432 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: But this team is the next two or three years, 433 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna see major strides and he's already doing it now. 434 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: And he's one of the most dynamic players in the NFL. 435 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: And that's according to Larry Fitzgerald. He would know. But 436 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: just to see the improvement in the leadership. And we 437 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: know based on last year, you know, when they was looking, 438 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, to start off winless. Besides the tie, it 439 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: bothered him, It really bothered him. And then they got 440 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, got on a nice little winning street three 441 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: games in the middle there when they started playing like 442 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and the Giants, etc. But yeah, I just love 443 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: his personality and his demeanor, because you know, it's one 444 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: thing to put up these numbers and people patch you 445 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: on the back. But at the end of the day, 446 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: and if you followed him since he's been drafted, he 447 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: doesn't like to lose. His will to win. His competitive 448 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: is like anything I've ever seen. And that's why I 449 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a problem with how he handled postgame. He's 450 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: obviously disappointed. You walk off the field with not the 451 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to win the ball game because it's not you 452 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: on the field, it's your kicking and a field goalkicker 453 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: comes up short, and that happens. But now all of 454 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got a change in the matter of 455 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: what five ten minutes and answer questions to the media, 456 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: And it's tough for a lot of players to kind 457 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: of dial it down and decompress and then provide insightful answers. 458 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: Now what happens in the next five ten years. Does 459 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: he become more like a Kurt Warner and a Carson Palmer, Perhaps, 460 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: But right now this means so much to him. And 461 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: now I'm not saying it didn't mean a lot to 462 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: Warner and Palmer, but it certainly does take some maturity 463 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: to be able to turn on, turn off and right 464 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: now immediately after ball games. Murray's the type player that 465 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: it takes a little a little while to dial it 466 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: back down. Well, just to give you peel the curtains 467 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: back a little bit. If you're not where this, they 468 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: have a cooling off period. Sometimes it could be ten 469 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes. And the only reason I'm bringing this 470 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: up is Cliff told the media that they had some 471 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: interesting conversations in that locker room after the game. You know, 472 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: maybe he squandered a great opportunity and so he comes 473 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: out there and I think our mother, our parents always 474 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: told you if he had nothing good to say, don't 475 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: say it at all. Right, that's my thought thought was 476 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: when I was watching that and it was very awkward, 477 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable to listen to and watch. But to your point, yes, 478 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: better not to say anything than to say something that 479 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: you'll regret later, because you've got to go back in 480 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: that locker room. And you know, one thing's you know, 481 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: calling out players, are getting on them to make sure 482 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: they're doing their job and cutting down the mental airs. 483 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: He's proven that, you know, he's that guy. If you're 484 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: a guy that's you know, not playing well. Well, nobody 485 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: wants to hear from you when you're playing well, and 486 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: you're the face of the franchise, and he actually looks 487 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: at you. You're part of the circle here. We need you, 488 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: so I want you to play better or you know, 489 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: cut down in the air. So I just really like 490 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: his demeanor, and I think that's why he wants to 491 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: be great. He doesn't want to be good, he wants 492 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: to be great. Yeah, he is certainly putting forth the 493 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: work as well. He talked about cutting down the number 494 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: of sacks they had a year ago forty eight and 495 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Right now they have just ten, which is 496 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: tied for the second fewest in the leagues. You've gone 497 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: from forty eight to ten. They talked about, and not 498 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: only Murray, but the offense line talked about cutting that 499 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: forty eight and a half twenty four. That's still a 500 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: number that is very respectable around the league. But heck, 501 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: they're on pace to lower even that to twenty. Yeah, 502 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: and he's not taken a lot of hits. You know, 503 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: last year he took a lot of hits, and I 504 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: think the previous game is probably the hardest he's taken 505 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: so far. Like Cliff said, he was diving head first. 506 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Usually he gets that pop up slide from the baseball background, 507 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: or he's able to get out of trouble and sit. 508 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: We haven't seen him sit as much this year. Huh. No. 509 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: I think he realizes that every yard matters and every 510 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: play has become so important to where, yes, you throw 511 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: one away to live for the next down, but sometimes 512 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: if you have possession to the football, it's worth it 513 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: to get that extra yard or two. Yes, he's smart 514 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: about running out of bounds. Yeah, but if there is 515 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: a defender in his way, he's willing to take the hit. 516 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: And I think not only does that speak volumes of him, 517 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: but it earns some some street cred for his teammate. 518 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt, and other teams see that, you know, 519 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: and they know that every every time the Cardinals play 520 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: an opponent. It's it's funny, you know. I remember last 521 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: year one of the Niners said he's like a squirrel 522 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: chasing him. You know. Yeah, me been salom actually was 523 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: de Forrest Buckner, who got traded in the offseason to 524 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: the Colts. He said, going against that guy twice, and 525 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: we know how well they played him again, we'll take 526 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: the split. But they didn't win those games. But for 527 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: the most part, he said, chasing him is like chasing 528 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: a squirrel, and you can just imagine that, you know. So, yeah, 529 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: and every week, and I like the fact now he 530 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: knows what the first down marker is and instead of, 531 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe trying to get an extra yard, he's 532 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: going right to the sidelines and he's putting the ball 533 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: out to get you more yardage to where yes, he 534 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: crossed the plane and now it's a first down. Before 535 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: he was just trying to get out. You don't want 536 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: to take the hit and live for the next down. 537 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: But he's actually become better in the open field when 538 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: he's going out of bounce and trying to pick up 539 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: that first down. It's the little things that are certainly 540 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: making him a much better player, a much better quarterback, 541 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: and a much better leader for this Arizona Cardinals team. 542 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: Not just the offense, but his relationship on field. Relationship 543 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: with Christian Kirk certainly has developed over the last couple 544 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: of games. And this is really a relationship that dates 545 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: back to their pre college days when you're making the 546 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: high school circuit and all the recruiting trips and nearly 547 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: played with one another. In fact, they did play with 548 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: one another for a little while at Texas A and M. 549 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: But Christian Kirk, we know what he did on Sunday, 550 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: the five catches for a season best one hundred and 551 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: twenty three yards and one touchdown. But MJ's what he's 552 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: done since missing Week three because of that injury. He 553 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: came back and not only is he healthy and he's 554 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: staying healthy, twenty catches for three hundred and forty three yards, 555 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: six touchdowns on thirty one targets, and Hopkins only has 556 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, and he's been targeting a lot more and 557 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: he's got a lot more receptions. And that's the way. 558 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, going into the last week, he led the 559 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: league in receptions and yardage. Now you know, obviously, you 560 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: know Christian Kirk's become a deep threat, so if you 561 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: can get behind the defense, he's going to catch some 562 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: of those balls. But what's impressive to me is, you know, 563 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: five or six of his touchdowns Craig have come fifty 564 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: plush yards, I mean, and when you see the stat 565 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: it shows a tea next to it, so those are touchdowns. 566 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: And again, you know, the Cardinals felt they needed, you know, 567 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: another receiver in the mix. Obviously didn't pan out what 568 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: guys like Chad Williams and JJ Nelson. But you know, 569 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: next year, I mean, depending on what fits does. I mean, 570 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: I can see his numbers going up. The only thing 571 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: is he's got to stay healthy. Yes, And I think 572 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: having a DeAndre Hopkins on this team and Larry Fitzgerald, 573 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: there's been a trickle down because less attention focused on 574 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: the number three wide receiver. It just so happens that 575 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: that is Christian Kirk this season. We'll see what happens 576 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: next season. But if you're going to focus solely on 577 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: number ten and number eleven, then someone else has to 578 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: pick up the slack. Someone else has to step up 579 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: their game. And Christian Kirk has done that since missing 580 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Week three, no doubt. And I want to see more 581 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: from Andy Isabella. I mean, he shows flashes. Don't like 582 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: the fact that he got an opportunity to kick return, 583 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: taking that out of the end zone. I mean, and 584 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: then he gets a catch and he goes backwards. Now 585 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: they're away. They always tell you rush up field. Now 586 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: it happened in the Monday night game where they threw 587 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: a pass and he didn't get the first down, but 588 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to take what they give you. 589 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: So I want to see him become more consistent. I 590 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: think he's made strides, but there are certain points in 591 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: the game where you know he's gonna have a drop 592 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: or something, and I don't know if they can afford 593 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: that when he's on the field. Now, again, he's worked 594 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: really hard. He's hard on himself more than anybody else. 595 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: He's made major strides. I like the way he's catching 596 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: a ball, but they're gonna need him at some point 597 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: because you just mentioned if you're gonna focus on Hopkins 598 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: and Fits, because we know Fits is a stix guy, 599 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna find the sticks, get your first down. And 600 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: then you get Christian Kirk in there, who's going to 601 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: draw the number one, three cornerback, possibly a slot guy 602 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: slot cornerback. And so if they want to go four wide, 603 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella is that fourth receiver. The one thing I 604 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: would like to see Isabella improve upon, and maybe this 605 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: is only going to improve upon with experience, but it's 606 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: field awareness. And I'll go back to that reception that 607 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: he had on Sunday. You needed seven yards, he had it, 608 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: caught it, but then spun. As he was spinning, he 609 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: went back a couple of yards and then falls a 610 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: yard short of the first down. Cliff Kingsbury calls the 611 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: time out because they think they had the first down. 612 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: You want to stop the clock, and I was hoping 613 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: to get a measure, but you said, yeah, everything was 614 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: happening so fast. You burn a time out, you end 615 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: up punting the ball, giving the Miami Dolphins more time, 616 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: and they end up kicking a field goal going into 617 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: the locker room. But it's just little things like that 618 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: we talked about with Kyler Murray, the little things he's 619 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: learning and developing and improving. Isabella needs to do the 620 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: same if he wants to take that next step as 621 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Yeah, you know, that's a great word. 622 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I never thought a field awareness. I may have to 623 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: steal that from you. It's okay, it's not copyrighted round Okay, 624 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: that's exactly what's going on. Well, you know, just by 625 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: watching Larry Fitzgerald no matter where he is on the field, 626 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: and for some of these players, I don't know how 627 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: you figure out where the yardage is when you're I 628 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: mean it's easy for fans in the media when you're 629 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: up high watching it, or the fans. You got that 630 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: yellow line and the mark on the TV. That's not 631 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: that's not one percent accurate. No, And obviously it doesn't 632 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: show up when you're in person watching a game. But 633 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: these wide receivers have a natural instinct. Where it's third 634 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: and seven, they know they have to go maybe eight yards. 635 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: If you're going to come back a yard, you don't 636 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: want to run short of the sticks. And sometimes you 637 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: see a lot of young receivers that are open, but 638 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback is not going to throw you the ball 639 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: because you're catch it, get tackled, you're short of a 640 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: first down. We just wasted an opportunity go beyond the sticks, 641 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: and then if you have to come back, you're still 642 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: giving yourself that cushion. I know, you know when Cardinal 643 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: fans are watching the game and it's third and fourteen 644 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: or third and sixteen and they throw a screen pass 645 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: or a dump off pass, they're just basically trying to 646 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: get field position. I'm not saying that you're conceiting, but 647 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to be reckless. It's better to punt 648 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: than turn the football over. So I know there's frustration. 649 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: Why are they you know, trying to get some yards 650 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: here where they're not trying to get the first down. 651 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: That's just playing field position because you want a little 652 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: bit more room either for or punter or maybe even penn. 653 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: The opposing team, even their defense makes a stop and 654 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: you could feel good, feel because I'm sure Murray would 655 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: love to throw it. But you've got to be smart. 656 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: And you know, the Cardinals, they've been averaging more plays 657 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: per game than they were did a year go. No 658 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: surprise there. They're averaging probably six or seven more points 659 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: per game, no surprise there, but you know, you know 660 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: they're probably getting Last week they had nine possessions. The 661 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins had nine, usually around ten or eleven. And the 662 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: fact that Andy le only punt at one time. It 663 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a great punt, but anyways, Yeah, the little things 664 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: could be holding his team back too, that's true. That's 665 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: a good point right now. Five and three. What's the 666 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: difference between seven wins, six wins, five wins? It's the 667 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: small things. We talk about it, and we talked about 668 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: it on Sunday. There's five or six plays every sing 669 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: every game, and it's just sometimes a little thing here 670 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: or there. That's the difference between a win and a loss, 671 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: and whether you're hosting a first round playoff game, whether 672 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: even making the playoffs, the difference between watching playoff football 673 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: or actually playing playoff football, which the Cardinals want to 674 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: do here in twenty twenty. It's just so refreshing going 675 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: into the game knowing that they're going to be at 676 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: a score points and you know, I think when they 677 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: take the field, and I think they started in week one, 678 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: they feel like they can beat anybody. Now, you can't 679 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: have turnovers if you expect to win. If you're minus 680 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: two or three or four in a turnover battle, that's 681 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: a tough haul. But I feel like when they step 682 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: on the field they have the same amount of talent 683 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: on the opposing team. Now we can go with the 684 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: position posinessition who has the advantage. But this team is 685 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: confident and they believe in what they're doing here, and 686 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: that can go a long way in the second half 687 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: of the season. Bird Gang. Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast 688 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen 689 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, 690 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, The Cardinals Read Two Report, and 691 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: of course this show Cardinals Cover two. Visit as Cardinals 692 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash podcast for more information. It is a Tuesday, 693 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: and typically here on Tuesdays we take a look at 694 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: what else is going around the NFC West as we'll 695 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: do that right now here on Cardinals Cover two, presented 696 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: by Hyunday, pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals. A quick 697 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: refresher Seahawks lead the division at six and to the 698 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals second place, the Rams third place, in the forty 699 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: nine ers at four and five and fourth place, and 700 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: what right now? I guess there could be an argument 701 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: on whether it is the toughest division in all of football, 702 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: but you mentioned it earlier in the show. These teams 703 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: now are beating each other up, so those records not 704 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: as good as what it was earlier in the season 705 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: when you're playing out of conference games or out of 706 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: division games and you can kind of stack those wins 707 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, And you know this year the 708 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: NFC West playing the AFC East, and obviously you're playing 709 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: the NFC East and in the AFC, so you're gonna 710 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: have carry over and then you know, you got division games. 711 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: But I think in the second half of this season, 712 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: you know the Niners could play a spoiler role. We'll 713 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: see the Rams. Their schedule gets a little bit more 714 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: difficult here. Of course, the Cardinals do play them, you know, 715 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: when they come back from New England. So but I 716 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: do think they're gonna kind of beat each other up. 717 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's going fourteen and two. I don't 718 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: think anybody's going thirteen and three like a year ago. 719 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: So the main thing is you got eight games to go, 720 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: get at least five or six wins, and now you're 721 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: in that conversation for possibly the NFC West, and then 722 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you have to, you know, 723 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: go on the road as a wildcard. This team would 724 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: sign up in a heartbeat. The division collectively twenty and 725 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: at ten, with the Seahawks accounting for six of those wins. 726 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: Although they lost on Sunday at the Bills forty four 727 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: thirty four, they've now lost two in a row. Talking 728 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: about the Seahawks, but they trailed at halftime twenty four 729 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: to ten, quoting head coach Pete Carroll, I don't recognize 730 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: that game. We haven't seen us look like that. It's 731 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: a game that I don't have any place in my 732 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: brain for it. They made it look easy. End quote. 733 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: And obviously he's talking about that Bill's offense, which will 734 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: be at State Farm Stadium this week. Allen three first 735 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: half touchdowns, He had four total touchdowns in that game 736 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: and passed for four hundred and fifteen yards. Yeah. You know, 737 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: I can't speak for Pete Carroll, but I think what 738 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: he was looking at is I haven't seen Russell Wilson 739 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: and back to back weeks turn up all over eight times. Yeah, 740 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: that was unlike Wilson. Two interceptions and then that's unusual. 741 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was playing like an MVP. He 742 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: was sacked five times, hit another sixteen times, yet all 743 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: of that, he still managed to throw the football for 744 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety yards and two touchdowns. Yeah. A 745 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff came in the second half. You know. Obviously, 746 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: you know Buffalo felt good about the lead, and you know, 747 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen had a touchdown to kind of preserve the 748 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: victory and at that point, but you know, hey, you 749 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: gotta play four quarters. We know that Cardinals haven't played. 750 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: They'll they'll tell you they haven't played a complete game offense, 751 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: defense or special teams. But I think they're getting closer, 752 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: And you know, it was disappointing for me when I 753 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: was driving home from the game the other night. Was 754 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: just and it sounds obvious, six and two versus five 755 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: and three, but it's like it was such a winnable game. Again, 756 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm we've talked about on paper, on paper the entire offseason, 757 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: and now we're talking about what's happening on the field. 758 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: Like I told you yesterday, if you told me five 759 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: and three going into the second half of the season, 760 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: signed me up. Six and two sounds a lot better. Absolutely. 761 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals, by the way, we'll have one more 762 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: game against the Seahawks, and then in fact, that is 763 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: coming up next week Thursday Night Football Show. A short 764 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: week for the Cardinals and they'll have to travel to 765 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: see Addle, which announced prior to that game on Sunday 766 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll, the oldest head coach and the league, 767 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: signed a multi year contract extension through twenty twenty five. Now, 768 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: they said that was done before the season, and he's 769 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: probably thinking, why is it coming out today and we 770 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: just got beat back to back weeks all the Seahawks 771 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: never announced it until Sunday too, I know, I know, 772 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: but it happened in the offseason. I don't think he's 773 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: got to worry about his future there. It's amazing when 774 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: I see him, and you know, always kind of mock 775 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: him on the chewing gum, but that guy's got so 776 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: much energy. Sixty nine years old and this right now 777 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: his eleventh season with the Seahawks and again signed through 778 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Wow, and they've only missed the playoffs once. 779 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: I believe that Carol connection the winning this head coach 780 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: and Seahawks franchise history. By the way, the Seahawks travel 781 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: this week, they'll be at the Rams Los Angeles coming 782 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: off that by they are five and three on the season, 783 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: and the big talk with the Rams is just the inconsistency. 784 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: Week's a week much like the same conversation that Cardinal 785 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: fans have had with the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, jerk off, 786 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: he got hit a little bit, turned the ball over. 787 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of like tires energy. You just 788 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get with that guy. And 789 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: really it's all predicated on them running the football. I mean, 790 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Cup's one of the best, you know, 791 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: slot receivers in football. They got some guys that can, 792 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, take the top off the defense in Robert Wood. 793 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: But they're they're going running back by committee the defense. 794 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: I think they flashed a little bit here. But again, 795 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest. Sean McVay has had the 796 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: advantage on the Cardinals going back to Steve Wilkes. Yeah, 797 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: has not lost to the Cardinals. Let's hopefully that will change. 798 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: It has to change, Craig, this is the year you 799 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: got to jump the Rams. Sean McVay on the Rams 800 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: offense so far, quote, it's been up and down overall, 801 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: not consistent enough for the standards that we have end quote. 802 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: The Rams are scoring twenty four points of contests that 803 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: are allowing. The defense though, has been solid, only nineteen 804 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: points to contests and of course Aaron Donald doing Aaron 805 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: Donald type things. Twenty eight pressures, nine sacks and I 806 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: saw this, Dad, He's been double teamed a league high 807 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: on one hundred and seventy one plays and still producing, 808 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: still producing. Yeah, you know you're telling me that Cardinals 809 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: are averaging more points than the Rams, scoring more, yes, 810 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 1: and I think allowing less as well. Off the double 811 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: check on that ladder port though, Wow, man, the NFC 812 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: West changing of the guard, all right, just double checks. 813 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: I guess they are scoring more, but they are allowing 814 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half points compared to the Rams nineteen. 815 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: So they closing the gap, if you will. When you 816 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: talk about the Rams defense and Cardinals defense, well yes, 817 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: but offensively that's you know, no defense probably wins in 818 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: the postseason. You know, the weather gets different, teams kind 819 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: of get more conservative. But the fact is that you know, 820 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: they've been chasing the Rams in that offense for a 821 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: couple of years now. Yeah. The last team that we 822 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: want to touch on real quick, the forty nine ers. 823 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: They are four and five. They played on Thursday Night football, 824 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: lost at home to the Packers thirty four seventeen. And 825 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I think we are starting to see that separation. MJ. 826 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: Not a Super Bowl hangover, I don't think. I just 827 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: believe it's been injuries, because guys would get hurt, go 828 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: on injured reserve, come off injured reserve, and then all 829 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the guys that were playing the backup, 830 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: if you will, they end up getting hurt. We know 831 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo might not need surgery on his right ankle, 832 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: but he's dealing with a high ankle sprain once again. 833 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: And we know that Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins will or 834 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: perhaps CJ. Bethard and Josh Johnson the other quarterbacks on 835 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: the roster. I think they're gonna go with Mullins. I 836 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, he obviously had that bad game on a 837 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: Thursday night, and they brought in CJ. Bethard. They both 838 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: put in the system since Shanahan's been there. But it 839 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: looks like Nick Mullins. And you know, you wonder what 840 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: the record is, you know, three or four weeks from now, 841 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: did they just shut Jimmy g down? And the big 842 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: question in the offseason is do they bring him back? 843 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they did flirt with Tom Brady. They obviously 844 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: made a decision Brady. You know, he ended up going 845 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: to the Bucks. But and and you look at I mean, 846 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to replace Nick Bosh and Richard 847 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: Sherman still out. He designated for return from injured reserve. 848 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday, but now he hasn't played since Week one. 849 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: There's I mean, he's eligible to come back this week, 850 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: could be a couple of weeks, it could be still 851 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: you got that twenty one day window before you have 852 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: to make a decision. But yeah, and that's a huge 853 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: loss defensively, no doubt. And because he's he's obviously you 854 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: know Carvages and niche not only in Seattle but San Francisco. 855 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: He mean, he looked at his interception ratio since he's 856 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: been in the league. He's one of the better players. 857 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: What was the A fifth round pick? Uh, yeah, I believe, yeah, 858 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: day three pick, Yeah exactly. So Yeah, it's just you know, 859 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: you hate to see it. Injury buck happens, but they're 860 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: gonna have some major decisions they're making the off season now. 861 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: The good news for John Lynch and Kyle Shannahan they 862 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: just signed six year contracts. Yeah, they're not going anywhere, 863 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: but the players might be turning over left and right. 864 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: Forty nine ers this week at the six and two Saints. 865 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: Good luck. Yeah, we know what the Saints did on 866 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football to what many believe was the team 867 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: to beat in the NFC of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 868 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: And that was a that was a very one sided 869 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: test and that was surprising. You know, the Buccaneers didn't 870 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: play well against the Giants on money in a football 871 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: the week before well, what do we say. It's any 872 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: any given Sunday. Every team can bid any team. And 873 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: but the thing is they swept them. Now that's true 874 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: as far Eyebreaker. I mean the Falcons, I mean, give 875 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: Raheem Morris. They're winning games, they're playing a lot better. 876 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: You know, Carolina, they're three and six. I think they're 877 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: excited about their future. But when you when you win 878 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: both games against the Bucks home and away, I mean, 879 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: that's a huge situation there. And on that note, let's 880 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, 881 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. We 882 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: begin the second half of the season officially on Wednesday. 883 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: Special thanks as always to our executive producer Jim Momndro. 884 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: For Mike Jarecki, I'm break Riel Loup. We'll talk to 885 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.